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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider Dick Gabrielle with

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<v Speaker 1>you Thursday edition of our program. We are one day

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<v Speaker 1>now into the month of August, and that means we

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<v Speaker 1>are a one day from Media Day, the talking season

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<v Speaker 1>in full force. Tomorrow is UK Football Media Day. Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>is UK Football Fan Day. So the bus is rolling,

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming right at us and it's less than a

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<v Speaker 1>month away Kentucky football and of course you'll hear every

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<v Speaker 1>game right here on six thirty WLAP. We'll talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of football tonight. We're going to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little more about Lafa Melia, which plays tomorrow. But tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>is a big day, isn't it up in Philly against

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<v Speaker 1>the team composed primarily of Ohio State alumni trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the finals of TBT, the basketball Tournament, million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar winner take All tournament. That's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>great one. One of the Fox Sports channels will have

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<v Speaker 1>it for you tomorrow night. Lots of Olympic news as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and some NFL for you to get to. Here. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up tonight, Keith Madison, the Hall of Fame coach and

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<v Speaker 1>sometime radio partner of Darren Hedrick, is going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>with us about the changes in college baseball, specifically some

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<v Speaker 1>of the changes to the UK roster, but in general,

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<v Speaker 1>they're throwing money around now, and they're throwing money all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, and baseball in some corners is going

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<v Speaker 1>to catch a lot of it. Gone apparently will be

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<v Speaker 1>the restrictive eleven point seven scholarship rule. That's all college

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<v Speaker 1>coaches have in terms of athletic scholarships up until this

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<v Speaker 1>point for college baseball, and it's really been a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that, but now apparently it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be with some roster limits, all you can afford when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to scholarships, and that will create some huge

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<v Speaker 1>chasms in the competitive nature of college baseball. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk with Keith Madison about that. Also going to visit

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<v Speaker 1>with Kent Taylor, who is now the sports director at

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<v Speaker 1>WLKYTV over in Louisville, and we'll talk with him about

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<v Speaker 1>what he sees upcoming for the Kentucky football season. Ken's

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<v Speaker 1>been on the beat for quite some time. He was

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<v Speaker 1>at the NBC affiliate, now he's at the CBS affiliate

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<v Speaker 1>over in Louisville. So I mentioned Kentucky football, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course there will be crowds of media around all the quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to think at some point, but especially Brock

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<v Speaker 1>Vandergriff who in the spring was the guy they brought

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<v Speaker 1>to the podium after practices. There were so many requests

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<v Speaker 1>for him, of course when he first got here, then

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<v Speaker 1>during workouts, So if you were going by interview requests

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that he was the guy who stood

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<v Speaker 1>up in front of the media, you'd think he is

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<v Speaker 1>the incumbent starter, although he's never taken a snap for

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats, but he is. I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 1>the odds on favorite, but definitely the favorite to win

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<v Speaker 1>that job. Bush Hampden I had a comment from him

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<v Speaker 1>the other night here on the show about the entire

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback room with bo Allen much more experienced down, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who knows what it's like to be a while

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<v Speaker 1>okay quarterback left and came back, and of course Cutter

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<v Speaker 1>bowliedy incoming freshman who Hamden said is his talented as

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<v Speaker 1>freshman as he's ever worked with. And Gavin Wimsit the

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<v Speaker 1>transfer from Rutgers, who is probably the best runner in

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback room, and they may have a package of

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<v Speaker 1>plays for him. But Hamden started his comments the other

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<v Speaker 1>day by talking about the transfer from Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>I really feel this about Brock. I mean, he's an

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<v Speaker 2>old school throwback type player and he's a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>this is really important to him from a leadership standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was always the starting point anytime you

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<v Speaker 2>have a guy that's coming in as a transfer and

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<v Speaker 2>the expectations how he can mesh with the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the team. I think he's done a tremendous job. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a player that's got a really nice skill set, can

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<v Speaker 2>run it, can throw it. We're certainly excited about him

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<v Speaker 2>continuing to take the next step.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Bush Hamden at the kickoff lunch. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about Brock Vandergriff and I've seen him a tad

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<v Speaker 1>bit and drills, but I always go back to what

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<v Speaker 1>my friend John Klay Harold Leader has said on this program.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of times. He talked to a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>his who covers Georgia football, and that person told John

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<v Speaker 1>that Rock Vandergriff was very, very close to winning the

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<v Speaker 1>starting job at Georgia but just couldn't beat out Carson Beck.

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<v Speaker 1>And that happens when you're talking about a program in

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<v Speaker 1>a roster that's riddled with five star athletes. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>only one guy is going to be your starting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>The other guys just going to have to sit and

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<v Speaker 1>like it. And Vandergriff was a good teammate, but decided

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<v Speaker 1>I need to go someplace where I'll have a better

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<v Speaker 1>chance at playing, and apparently Kentucky is that space. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I think about when I think about the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback competition. But Jeremy Jarmer has been on our show

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<v Speaker 1>more than one saying he firmly believes it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a real competition for quarterback right up until

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<v Speaker 1>I guess game week, because he likes how bo Allen

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<v Speaker 1>has developed. And of course Boldie's got talent, wimsit's got experience.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been hitting the mouth as a starting quarterback. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really interesting. I've got to think

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<v Speaker 1>Vandergriff will win the starting job. But one thing, Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>has been caught in the past suffering from a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of depth. That's not going to be the case this year, clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, let me shift over to Olympics because last

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<v Speaker 1>night they on the Encore presentation, they showed Katie Ledecki

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<v Speaker 1>winning the gold in the fifteen hundred, just phenomenal, goes

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<v Speaker 1>out to the lead almost instantly and blows away the field,

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<v Speaker 1>winning her eighth gold medal. And now she's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>swimming in twenty twenty eight. I cannot imagine. It's just well,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the Olympic events can be grueling, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to swim multiple events, and her specialty is that marathon,

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen hundred meter, and nobody else had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>at beating her. Last night she's got the best twenty

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<v Speaker 1>times ever in that event. Last night was her eighth

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<v Speaker 1>best time. And we've talked before about how it's a

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<v Speaker 1>their own churn going back and forth. Of course that

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<v Speaker 1>many times in the fifteen hundred, so she wins it

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<v Speaker 1>and NBC I saw this online. There was the headline

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<v Speaker 1>said needed a special camera angle for Katie Ledeci at

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. And kudos to NBC's producers for planning ahead

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<v Speaker 1>because this had to have come up. When she opens up,

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<v Speaker 1>not just if, but when she opens up that big lead,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we going to show this compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the swimmers. Think about the film you've seen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was film back then, but you've seen since the

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<v Speaker 1>replays hundreds of times about Secretariat beating the field at

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<v Speaker 1>the Belmont. That is still the benchmark for victory in

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least a classic race, if not one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best races of all time. Secretariat wins the

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<v Speaker 1>Belmont by thirty one lengths and they had to go

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<v Speaker 1>so wide. I think CBS had it back then just

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<v Speaker 1>to show where the second horse was. Well, NBC had

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<v Speaker 1>to do that last night was Katie Ledeci. So they

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<v Speaker 1>went to what's called the all twenty two camera. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen it before. You've seen it if you watched

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL on any network. They now use that camera angle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what they call little generally. I'm sure it's a lockdown,

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<v Speaker 1>but even if not, even if it's just somebody manning

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<v Speaker 1>that camera for the whole game, it shows all twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two players at all time, a really super wide shot

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<v Speaker 1>of the field, so you can see it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a chalkboard come to life. How a play unfolds. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what NBC went to last night because they needed

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<v Speaker 1>to get so wide to show just how Katie Ladecci

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<v Speaker 1>was crushed the field. And you can't do that with

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<v Speaker 1>what you call your main game camera. You've got multiple

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<v Speaker 1>cameras obviously upstairs, but you've got you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to call a camera one camera, hey whatever, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the lead camera that the director goes to, then there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be another camera virtually right next to them. That's tighter

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<v Speaker 1>on some of the athletes, and they spread them out

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<v Speaker 1>all over the arena, but they had an all twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two ready last night, and that's how they covered Katie

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<v Speaker 1>Ledeci's smashing victory in the fifteen hundred. Last night she

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<v Speaker 1>went her eighth gold, her twelfth medal overall, and and

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<v Speaker 1>o Oopsie, I just patted NBC on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>little Oopsie for NBC. We were watching I was with

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<v Speaker 1>some friends watching it last night, and they put up

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three medals for Michael Phelps and twelve for Katie Ladeci. Oops.

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<v Speaker 1>Phelps has twenty eight medals, twenty three golds. So somebody

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<v Speaker 1>got that wrong. But hey, if that's the only mistake

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<v Speaker 1>they made last night, that's not too bad. The mistake

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<v Speaker 1>came in my opinion here in the States from the ACC.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The Atlantic Coast Conference now home to Stanford,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awful. You know, the PAC twelve dying and

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<v Speaker 1>now you've got teams crisscrossing the country. Well, Stanford, which

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to survive financially in college sports, sign's on

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<v Speaker 1>with the ACC. Best opportunity for Stanford. And at some

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<v Speaker 1>point the ACC tweeted or put up on social media

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<v Speaker 1>just how proud it was of a former ACC athlete

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<v Speaker 1>and what she's doing at the Olympics. Huh, Katie Ledecki

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<v Speaker 1>never competed in the ACC. Yeah, I know, Stanford's in

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<v Speaker 1>the ACC. Now, this is what stinks about all this

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<v Speaker 1>conference movement.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>People wanted UK to move to the ACC some years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>which would have meant that all those SEC titles that

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's won in basketball would have been worthless, meaningless. But anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Ldecki won a pair of PAC twelve and NCA

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<v Speaker 1>that in the PAC twelve, not the ACC, but the

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<v Speaker 1>conference quick to claim her Olympic success in a tweet

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<v Speaker 1>after her victory. Come on, you at least got to

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<v Speaker 1>make some mention some nod to the PAC twelve, but

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<v Speaker 1>now not the ACC. Where are we now in college sports?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, more weirdness from the Olympics in some

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<v Speaker 1>great moments. But also a good buddy of Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>miss the Tom Brady broadcast and that person is a

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP Welcome Back. Coming up in just a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes, Hall of Fame baseball coach Keith Madison. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a number of things, including a highly drafted

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<v Speaker 1>to play for the Kentucky Wildcats. Tyler bell enfielder from Frankfurt, Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>again in twenty twenty six. But that's a great get

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<v Speaker 1>But I mentioned weird things at the Olympics and a

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<v Speaker 1>this triathlon thing. It's just so nasty. The athletes had

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<v Speaker 1>any time. There's going to be a seven day free

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<v Speaker 1>trial all that stuff. But it's here. It's not just coming,

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<v Speaker 1>like every month there's a new increment that tells us

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<v Speaker 1>or cockroaches and twinkies. Well, this twinkie and I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>of World Records as the oldest sealed twinkie in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He bought it for what he is being described as

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<v Speaker 1>an undisclosed amount over one thousand dollars. They say it

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<v Speaker 1>always have, always will. Just the thought of even holding

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe, if i'd somebody else might want to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan a Tom Brady. They're both huge celebrities,

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<v Speaker 1>their friends. And I've wondered in the past about these

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars from Fox Sports, and you know, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>smart people crunching numbers. Apparently they think they can make

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<v Speaker 1>to or whatever they're paying him in to do their ballgames. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Damon an unabast fan of what I said. I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned with the Patriots and Brady said he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to miss a game. But how many people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that, Well, if Brady's calling the game, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>to make it work? Who knows? How do you measure that?

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<v Speaker 1>But Brady was the topic when Damon appeared on the

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Eisen Show. He's plugging a special or a show

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<v Speaker 1>TV starting tomorrow. I'll check it out. But he was talking.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a huge sports fan, of course, and was talking

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<v Speaker 1>and it's more than just when it comes to what

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<v Speaker 1>but the insights that he brings, And of course Brady

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he has played in every stadium before,

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<v Speaker 1>every fan base has beaten every team in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>team and won a Super Bowl. So it's a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive with Tom Brady. And that's why Matt Damon says,

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<v Speaker 1>among other reasons, he ain't gonna miss a game from a.

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<v Speaker 4>First person perspective, and he can and he knows what

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<v Speaker 1>And he's just I think for anybody who knows him,

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<v Speaker 4>The field, he is the nicest guy. And that's what

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to.

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<v Speaker 4>See that too, and it's impossible not to love that guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Once he once he spent a little time with him.

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<v Speaker 4>He's he's just a great person. But he's so knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 4>that I think I can't wait to I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>watch whatever games he's broadcasting because because it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>Keep coming back to the Big Blueing Cider or our

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<v Speaker 1>previous segment we heard from Matt Damon talking about Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity hotline Coach, how are you? I'm great, I'm good, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I and Doug and then Darren talked here

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<v Speaker 1>not gone pro. And that's what I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>number sixty six overall in the Major League Draft. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>be eligible again after twenty twenty six. But you had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leave you hanging. They knew this was a

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<v Speaker 1>possibility with Tyler Bell. But what does it mean big picture?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think to Nick man Jones ball club gets

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it is?

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<v Speaker 7>Because very, very seldom does a young man that's drafted

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<v Speaker 7>they it And when you get when you get a

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<v Speaker 7>recruiting world that hey, you can come to Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And like we said, everybody in the baseball

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<v Speaker 1>so when this kind of thing happens, it's in ripples,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>It does. Plus it sets Kentucky you have to have

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<v Speaker 7>you know, strong up the middle, and shortstops one of

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<v Speaker 7>those key up the middle positions. So it's it's critical

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<v Speaker 7>to have a shortstop that's going to make the play.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know how much we all love Grant Smith.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, he was money out there. Every ground ball

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<v Speaker 7>hit his way, you just ring it up as anouse.

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<v Speaker 7>And so you know, we've got spoiled a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>So this young man, Tyler Bell, I think he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be fit right in well.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of great shortstops at Kentucky, he played coincidentally enough,

425
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<v Speaker 1>at the same high school in Illinois at Lincoln Way

426
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<v Speaker 1>East that produced Ryan Ritter, who, with all due respect

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<v Speaker 1>to Grant and some of the guys you coach and others,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan ridder Man Ben I think probably was the best

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<v Speaker 1>shortstop Kentucky ever produced, a Gold Glove winner still playing professionally,

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<v Speaker 1>but coming from the same high school. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of falling into place, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and Ryan Rhdder, you know, he was such an

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<v Speaker 7>athletic shortstop. You know, we had some great ones, you know,

435
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<v Speaker 7>Billy White, a Miller, and then I know Nick's had

436
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<v Speaker 7>some good ones too, and John Cohen did, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>Ryan Ritter was special.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to Keith Madison, Kentucky Hall of Fame baseball coach

439
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<v Speaker 1>and a frequent member of the UK Radio network alongside

440
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<v Speaker 1>Darren Hedrick, Keith worked the College World Series with Darren

441
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<v Speaker 1>and they did a superb job, of course through the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs and all year long. And we're talking about the

443
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<v Speaker 1>fact that Tyler Bell, a high school infielder from Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>a shortstop who was rated in the top one hundred

445
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<v Speaker 1>really by everybody in overall prospects, has said no thank

446
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<v Speaker 1>you to Major League Baseball, was a second round pick

447
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<v Speaker 1>and we'll play at Kentucky. I hate to bring this

448
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<v Speaker 1>up because you mentioned guys you signed, and I know

449
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<v Speaker 1>this was a difficult chapter in your career, but it

450
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<v Speaker 1>illustrates the challenges of being a high school or rather

451
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<v Speaker 1>a college baseball coach. Recruited high school kids good enough

452
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<v Speaker 1>to play perhaps in the pros right away. One year

453
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<v Speaker 1>you signed I can't remember, but it was you signed

454
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<v Speaker 1>seven eight guys overall, and most of them at the

455
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<v Speaker 1>last minute signed professional contracts. Coach, and it sets your

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<v Speaker 1>program back in terms of recruiting, the cycle of recruiting

457
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<v Speaker 1>about two years. Can you share that with our listeners,

458
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<v Speaker 1>because that's important. It still happens.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, absolutely, And you know this was not long after

460
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<v Speaker 7>Rex Chapman, you know, left early for the NBA and

461
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<v Speaker 7>people were were saying, oh, we can't believe he's leaving.

462
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<v Speaker 7>I said, hey, you know, it happens all the time

463
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<v Speaker 7>in baseball because our guys get drafted out of high

464
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<v Speaker 7>school and if they're twenty one years old, they could

465
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<v Speaker 7>leave after you know, their sophomore year, junior year. But yeah,

466
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<v Speaker 7>one year we lost we lost I think seven guys. Oh,

467
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<v Speaker 7>and we thought five of those guys were going to

468
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<v Speaker 7>be coming to school and we were going to have

469
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<v Speaker 7>the best recruiting class we've ever had, and we lost seven.

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<v Speaker 7>And it took it literally took me two years to

471
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<v Speaker 7>sort of get over that that gap that we had

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<v Speaker 7>in recruiting that year. It's it's not something you can

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<v Speaker 7>fix overnight, or you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Then.

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<v Speaker 7>Now you have the transfer portal and it's a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit easier fixed, even though that's not really easy because

477
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<v Speaker 7>you're a competition with so many other schools. But you know,

478
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<v Speaker 7>you could reach out and grab a guy with you

479
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<v Speaker 7>want to experience now. But back in those days, you

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<v Speaker 7>just had to wait until next year to get somebody

481
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<v Speaker 7>to fill that slot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can reach out now, but the calendar is

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<v Speaker 1>still an issue. The windows are only open, and I

484
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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to restrict them even more for transfers.

485
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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the best guys probably are gone early,

486
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<v Speaker 1>so if you wait too long, you'll miss out. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's still a challenge for your coaches. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do remember that, and you don't remember this either, I'm sure,

489
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<v Speaker 1>but I bumped into you at the at the election

490
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<v Speaker 1>an airport one summer and we were just exchanging pleasantry.

491
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<v Speaker 1>And this was right after I think you guys made

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<v Speaker 1>that run to within a few innings of a College

493
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<v Speaker 1>World Series and you told me, I think you were

494
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<v Speaker 1>heading for Portland to recruit a kid because thanks to

495
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the notoriety, the growing notoriety of Kentucky baseball, you were

496
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<v Speaker 1>expanding your recruiting reach and that was a conscious decision.

497
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<v Speaker 1>You had kind of been going regional and you started

498
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<v Speaker 1>going more national h looking for talent, and it worked

499
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<v Speaker 1>to a point. But in other ways, it's it's riskier,

500
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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

501
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<v Speaker 7>It really is risky because when you when you when

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<v Speaker 7>you expand your recruiting uh nationwide like that, and you're

503
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<v Speaker 7>going after guys that have a chance of getting drafted. Uh,

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00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 7>you know, you just uh it's like rolling the diet.

505
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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's and I know John Calperry, you know,

506
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<v Speaker 7>with the one and done. You know, he he went

507
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<v Speaker 7>through that all of time too. But you when you

508
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<v Speaker 7>start recruiting those high caliber athletes, there's such a great

509
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<v Speaker 7>chance that they're going to get drafted in the first

510
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<v Speaker 7>three rounds of the major league draft. And normally, if

511
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<v Speaker 7>a guy got drafted in the first five rounds, he's

512
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<v Speaker 7>going to go pro because the money's going to be good.

513
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<v Speaker 7>He's going to be given an opportunity to fulfiller's lifelong

514
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<v Speaker 7>dream and that's played major league baseball. So you know,

515
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<v Speaker 7>if there's a ballot there. Do you do you go

516
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<v Speaker 7>after all high profile athletes or do you do you

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<v Speaker 7>go after some guys that you know you're going to

518
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<v Speaker 7>have at least for three years. And college coaches are

519
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:47.240
<v Speaker 7>constantly trying to juggle those balls, and obviously you want

520
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<v Speaker 7>to go after the best athletes, but you know, major

521
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:54.480
<v Speaker 7>League Baseball, they come with the money, and especially back

522
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<v Speaker 7>in my area, you couldn't you couldn't do that. You know,

523
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 7>you couldn't even offer really a full scholarship because you

524
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<v Speaker 7>just didn't have enough to go around. So recruiting is

525
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<v Speaker 7>a very, very challenging thing for college baseball coaches. It

526
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<v Speaker 7>was then and it still is now.

527
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<v Speaker 1>And you know what's even crazier is you mentioned John Calipari.

528
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<v Speaker 1>And of course it's easy to see which kid could

529
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<v Speaker 1>get an offer, and some of it's already been mentioned.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, to go to the NBA, or go to

531
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<v Speaker 8>the G League, or go.

532
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 1>Play in Europe. But it's a riskier proposition in baseball,

533
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<v Speaker 1>as you know, because in general, it's a one to

534
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<v Speaker 1>ten chance for a college player who is drafted to

535
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<v Speaker 1>get to the bigs. Now, if you come out of

536
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>high school, there's more invested in you, more money, more time.

537
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<v Speaker 1>You may have a better chance, but it's still everybody's

538
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of a long shot. There are many Bryce Harper's

539
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<v Speaker 1>out there. But you know, this kid bell is in

540
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<v Speaker 1>terms of ratings, is the third highest rated recruit ever

541
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<v Speaker 1>to sign with Kentucky. The others a Ryan hagen Out,

542
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>who has dealt with injuries, may or may not get

543
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<v Speaker 1>a chance to play professionally. Alex Meyer who got up

544
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to the bigs but his career was cut short by injury.

545
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Ritter is on the seven day d L right

546
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 1>now in Double A Baseball. So yeah, you might get

547
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 1>a bonus, but there's no guarantee. You know, there's no

548
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<v Speaker 1>guarantee you get to the bigs.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's exactly right. And uh, you know, I think baseball,

550
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.440
<v Speaker 7>you know, there's so many rounds of the draft. I

551
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 7>think it's the hardest sport to make it up. And

552
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<v Speaker 7>you know, I once you signed. Yeah, you know, for basketball,

553
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 7>you know, if you get drafted in the first round,

554
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 7>I mean your chancers are pretty good. You're going to

555
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 7>be playing in the NBA and you'll be rich no

556
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 7>matter what exactly. But in baseball, you know, if you

557
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.960
<v Speaker 7>get drafted in those first three rounds. Sure they're going

558
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<v Speaker 7>to take a serious, very serious look at you, because,

559
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 7>like you said, Dick, they have money invested in you.

560
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 7>But there's no guarantee you're still battling for those other

561
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 7>guys in the organization going through the minor leagues or

562
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.839
<v Speaker 7>if you guys ever missed the minor league. So a

563
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 7>lot of things can happen in minor league baseball. You

564
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 7>have late bloomers that pass you by, you have other

565
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 7>people just as talented as you, and it's a that's

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<v Speaker 7>why in my opinion, of course, I'm a college coach,

567
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 7>or was a college coach. You know, it's it's so

568
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 7>wise for Tyler Bell to come to Kentucky because he's

569
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<v Speaker 7>going to mature, gets stronger, and his chances of instead

570
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<v Speaker 7>of being you know, a late first round or early

571
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 7>second rounder, he's got a chance to be an early

572
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 7>first rounder because he's a very gifted young man. So

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's a I think it's a good move

574
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 7>on his part. Of course, there's always a chance of injury.

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<v Speaker 7>You know what if he gets hurt badly at Kentucky

576
00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.160
<v Speaker 7>and then you know, he may regret going to Kentucky

577
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 7>instead of signing that pro contract. So there's a lot

578
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<v Speaker 7>of there's a lot of ways to look at it,

579
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<v Speaker 7>but having been a college coach, I see the advantage

580
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 7>of coming you know, getting in a in a first

581
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<v Speaker 7>of all, getting your education. Second of all, you know,

582
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<v Speaker 7>getting in a in a in an environment where you're

583
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<v Speaker 7>going to be eating right, working out well, playing with

584
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<v Speaker 7>other good players, maturing and then going out and playing

585
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<v Speaker 7>pro ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't hurt that he takes a look and

587
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>sees Ryan Waldschmidt go as a supplementary first round pick

588
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.079
<v Speaker 1>for a multiple million dollar contracts. So yeah, stay healthy

589
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 1>and it could work out. Keith Madison as my guess.

590
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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back and talk more with a Hall of

591
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<v Speaker 1>fame baseball coach in just a minute here on six

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with Keith Madison,

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of fame UK baseball coach. You hear him

594
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<v Speaker 1>on the UK radio now work alongside Darren Hedrick, and

595
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<v Speaker 1>we just have a few minutes left. Coach. But I

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<v Speaker 1>did want to touch on the new rules and they're

597
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit confusing. But right now college sports roster

598
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<v Speaker 1>limits are expanding. We know that there will be only

599
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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and five scholarship players available, or scholarships available

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<v Speaker 1>to college football coaches. In other words, their rosters are

601
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<v Speaker 1>limited to one hundred and five, down from one to twenty,

602
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 1>which means there may be precious few walk ons. And

603
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<v Speaker 1>in baseball, I think they're going to have thirty four

604
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<v Speaker 1>scholarships available if they want to spend that much money, Keith,

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<v Speaker 1>But it may also unlikely will mean fewer opportunities for

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<v Speaker 1>walk on So up from eleven point seven scholarships exceedingly up,

607
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<v Speaker 1>but not as many bodies on the roster, and not

608
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<v Speaker 1>as many opportunities for kids to maybe earn a scholarship

609
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<v Speaker 1>as a walk on. So it's a confusing time, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>it really?

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<v Speaker 7>And I really never thought I would see a day

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<v Speaker 7>when that many scholarships would be available for baseball. We

613
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<v Speaker 7>thought that. I thought that every year of my career

614
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<v Speaker 7>and then beyond that, and we used to talk about, Hey,

615
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<v Speaker 7>the guys that play in a college World Series, they're

616
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<v Speaker 7>paying to play. Yes, you know, there's twenty five thousand

617
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<v Speaker 7>people watching them, a million watching them on television, but

618
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<v Speaker 7>they're on partial scholarships. And I thought that was a travesty.

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<v Speaker 7>And I hope that someday college baseball would get sixteen

620
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<v Speaker 7>or seventeen full scholarships, and now they're going to have

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<v Speaker 7>an opportunity they have thirty thirty four. It's just incredible

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<v Speaker 7>the change. I'm definitely happy for the opportunities that these

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<v Speaker 7>young men are going to have. I'm a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>concerned about how it's going to affect the overall land

625
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 7>gape of college baseball. When you talk about the mid majors,

626
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 7>the you know, the Eastern Kentucky's, the Western Kentucky's, uh,

627
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 7>you know the Indiana States who you know, they've been

628
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 7>a really good program recently. Can they afford to give

629
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<v Speaker 7>that many scholarships in their athletic departments? Where the SEC schools,

630
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 7>ACC schools they get that TV money, they have more

631
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 7>money to, you know, to offer. It's going to be

632
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:33.559
<v Speaker 7>very interesting. It seems like the further we go there's

633
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 7>a bigger gap between the haves and the have not.

634
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree, and that's not healthy. I don't like that because,

635
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like you said, I've covered e KU. You are a

636
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Western Kentucky guy. Murray State's out there has had a

637
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>really fine baseball program. I think we need to worry

638
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>about schools like that.

639
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 7>Yes, and it concerns me because I'm you know, I'm

640
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 7>a college baseball guy. I won't see all the all

641
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.239
<v Speaker 7>the programs flourish, uh you know, from from Murray State

642
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 7>all the way up to the SEC schools and this

643
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 7>I think. You know, of course, people are going to

644
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 7>spend it that it's going to help them because they're

645
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 7>going to limit the roster sizes in the SEC and

646
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 7>and and all the programs, which means that the guys

647
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 7>that that that would have walked on at Kentucky or

648
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 7>Tennessee are now going to be going to Murray State,

649
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 7>Western Kentucky wherever. But you know, everybody wants a scholarship,

650
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 7>and and uh so, I I think it's going to

651
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:43.239
<v Speaker 7>hurt the mid majors. Of course, if I was coaching Kentucky,

652
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 7>I would love to have the opportunity to offer these

653
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 7>young men a full scholarship. That's what, in my opinion,

654
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:53.800
<v Speaker 7>they deserve. As hard as they work and as much

655
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:58.119
<v Speaker 7>as they put into the program, they they definitely deserve

656
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 7>a scholarship. So it is a confusing time and it's different.

657
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:07.599
<v Speaker 7>It's changing so quickly with the transfer portal with NIL

658
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 7>and now with the increased scholarship clim the increased scholarship

659
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 7>totals and the reduced roster side. It's gonna be another

660
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 7>challenge for coaches to customize their program for these changes.

661
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Kaith Madison, Hall of Fame coach and sometime broadcast partner

662
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Darren Hederick, Thanks coach, talk to you soon.

663
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 7>Thank you.

664
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Dick. Coming up in hour number two Kent Taylor from

665
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 1>WLK why over in Louisville. We'll talk about the football

666
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.079
<v Speaker 1>and basketball Wildcats.

667
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 8>Well, then later on we're.

668
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Going to hear some of my conversation with Jeremy Jarman.

669
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>We appeared on the Inside UK Football podcast that's coming

670
00:38:51.320 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>up on six point thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

671
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Big Bluis Sider joining us now as a guy who's

672
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>been on the show before. It's been a while, mister

673
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Kent Taylor, now the sports director at w l K Y.

674
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 1>You were working at another TV station the last time

675
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>we talked, but you have taken over for the great

676
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Fred Cowgill who retired and now it's all on your shoulders.

677
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you feeling the pressure.

678
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 3>It's enormous, boy, What big shoes to film, right, I

679
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.079
<v Speaker 3>mean as big as clowns. Did I know? I'm kidding?

680
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.960
<v Speaker 3>And Fred actually you know he's about to start school.

681
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

682
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 3>But teaching, it's working out. Yeah, teaching at Jeffersonville High

683
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 3>School in southern Indiana. So that's worked out great. It's seamless,

684
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:57.840
<v Speaker 3>had a year to adjust and learn all the systems

685
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.880
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, so it's not like I was just thrown

686
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:00.840
<v Speaker 3>into the deep end.

687
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

688
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.079
<v Speaker 3>I was doing the eleven for a year now, it's

689
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 3>just just a little more work.

690
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, and you started as an intern and then as

691
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a shooter and a reporter and whatever at okay, why

692
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.079
<v Speaker 1>before moving around? And by way of background, Kent is

693
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.679
<v Speaker 1>a Louisville native did not go to the same high

694
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>school as I did. We'll leave it at that, but

695
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 1>also has worked for the ACC streaming networks similar to

696
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the SEC streaming network that I do, discovered a lot

697
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of U of L sports, but also has worked this

698
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 1>end of the interstate. I want to talk to you

699
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.119
<v Speaker 1>about U of L basketball in a minute, but Media

700
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Day tomorrow, I don't know if you're going to delegate

701
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>that or coming. You've covered UK Media Day before. What

702
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>from your end of the interstate is the interstate is

703
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>the perception of Kentucky football these days.

704
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Well it's been to the point where we expect them

705
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:50.039
<v Speaker 3>to go to a bowl game, and now it's just

706
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 3>a matter of and it's hard to you say, can

707
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 3>they take the next step? You know, I go back

708
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.559
<v Speaker 3>to the days when you'd look at the schedule at

709
00:40:58.559 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the year and be like, all right,

710
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to be Tennessee, you're not going to

711
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 3>be Georgia, You're not going to be Florida guaranteed, and

712
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 3>then you're gonna play a couple of SEC West teams

713
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 3>and you're probably gonna get blown out. Nowadays, you know,

714
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 3>any game, no seriously, because I mean it's not that

715
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 3>long ago when beating Tennessee and Florida were non starters.

716
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 3>It was not going to happen. And now you look

717
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 3>at pretty much every game. I mean the only game

718
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.039
<v Speaker 3>you look at now and say that about is is

719
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 3>Georgia and you kind of feel like it could be competitive.

720
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's belief there are you know, there are

721
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 3>fans who have belief that it can happen. We're in

722
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 3>the Pact. That would have not been the case ever,

723
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 3>so ba's a little different and now there. But now

724
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 3>it's a completely new SEC. So what do we expect

725
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 3>with Texas and Oklahoma coming into the league and getting

726
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 3>rid of the divisions and everything. So we are at

727
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 3>the point though, where we do expect a bowl game

728
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 3>and it's a matter of can they take the next

729
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:54.679
<v Speaker 3>can they actually make the SEC championship game at some point?

730
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they flirted with it under Mark Stoops, which

731
00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 1>again I'm like you, I had to admit I'm not

732
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.519
<v Speaker 1>sure I thought I would see that. And as I mentioned,

733
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you started your career. I'm going to date you when

734
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you started your career what around thirty years ago? And

735
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.159
<v Speaker 1>you started in the early nineties, back when the uku

736
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:16.320
<v Speaker 1>of L rivalry was coming together. Both programs struggle at times,

737
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 1>had some great years. But I've asked this of everybody

738
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I know who has covered this beat for a while.

739
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever think you would see the day? And

740
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you kind of alluded to this where seven wins was like, Eh,

741
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 1>they should have done more.

742
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:32.360
<v Speaker 5>No.

743
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 3>That's one of the reasons why people always said Kentucky

744
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.159
<v Speaker 3>with was such a great job in that if you

745
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 3>could win six or seven games, you're safe forever. Now

746
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:45.679
<v Speaker 3>he's done that, and people want more and that's got

747
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.000
<v Speaker 3>to be one of the reasons why he at least

748
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 3>talked to Texas A and M. And because you would

749
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:52.960
<v Speaker 3>have thought he's the amount of money he's making, the

750
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 3>success he's had, the foundation that they built there, you think,

751
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, hey, we've got something pretty good going role

752
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:05.079
<v Speaker 3>with this. But nowadays and the money is so crazy

753
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.679
<v Speaker 3>at some other place. But it's also changing so much

754
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.679
<v Speaker 3>because the money was crazy, now that money might be

755
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 3>going in different directions to the paying the players, and

756
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.440
<v Speaker 3>it's all just such a changing landscape that you never

757
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:19.679
<v Speaker 3>know what's going to happen. But no, pants, no, I

758
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 3>did not. Well, there were times, Dick, when we would

759
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 3>come up on a Saturday, say, I can remember doing

760
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.320
<v Speaker 3>this like for an auburnyause he's playing Auburn on a

761
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Saturday night. A right, I'm going to go shoo the

762
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 3>first quarter. You know, I'll have money, you know it'll

763
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 3>be thirty to nothing. I'll have funey come back. But yeah,

764
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:37.840
<v Speaker 3>that's not the case anymore.

765
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 1>I always go back. And I'm an old guy, as

766
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, to when I was in school and Odas Singletary,

767
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 1>who at the time was the school president, was from

768
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Texas loved football. He hired and fired Frank Cercy, but

769
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 1>he adored football and gave basketball it's proper respect. But

770
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:58.119
<v Speaker 1>he wants He pulled me aside and he said, you know,

771
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't expect us to win every game. I just

772
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 1>want to come to the game on Saturday and not

773
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>know ahead of time who's going to win. And that's

774
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.760
<v Speaker 1>fair in my opinion. And that's where we are now.

775
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I think was UK football as media and fans, don't

776
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 1>you think.

777
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Which we have the gift of perspective, but some of

778
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 3>these younger fans don't necessarily and they don't realize how

779
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 3>big of a leap that is. Though from where they

780
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 3>were to where they are is pretty impressive. And you

781
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 3>could say the same thing you mentioned back to the

782
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.519
<v Speaker 3>little I mean, Louis's getting rid of football Hunter, Bob whatever.

783
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 3>And Tom Jurich was to that guy for Louisville who

784
00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 3>came in and granted he had a new stadium that

785
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:41.320
<v Speaker 3>he inherited, but he still was able to get them

786
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:44.039
<v Speaker 3>in their different conference moves up from conference at the

787
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 3>Big East to the Ace. It would have thought at

788
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.320
<v Speaker 3>that point Louisvill's going to be in the ACC and

789
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:51.519
<v Speaker 3>then I mean they played in the a SEC Championship

790
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 3>game last year.

791
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 1>In terms of perspective, people, and you know, I know,

792
00:44:57.719 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>remember you just alluded to the fact that there was

793
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>serious talk of dropping football at u of L until

794
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Schnellenberger got there and his first season. I covered the

795
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 1>e k U U of L game when Roy Kid

796
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 1>called off the Dogs, a one double a team they

797
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 1>were beating Louisville so badly. But Schnellenberger doesn't get enough credit.

798
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 1>He and Bill Curry put their heads together and got

799
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 1>that series done uk U of L. But Schnellenberger agreed,

800
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>people forget about this. I know you don't to play

801
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 1>the first four games in Lexington in order to light

802
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 1>a fire under the U of L boosters. And it worked,

803
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it did.

804
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 3>And I go back to the people who experienced that game,

805
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:43.119
<v Speaker 3>and we'd be talking about it right now. They would

806
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 3>have had the late July, they would have had the

807
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Governor's Cup news conference that they had every year. So

808
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 3>I still I will always say that's that I'll die

809
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 3>on that hill. I like that game as the first

810
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 3>game to put the college football taps. Now I understand

811
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 3>why the coach. I can see their argument. I don't

812
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:05.360
<v Speaker 3>agree with it because if you did lose that game then,

813
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 3>and we saw it a lot of times with the

814
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 3>team that would lose that game and go on and

815
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.920
<v Speaker 3>just have a horrible season. But nowadays they have so

816
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 3>many other big games during the season. I don't know

817
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.199
<v Speaker 3>that would necessarily be as much of a factor. And

818
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we'll ever get back there now because

819
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 3>TV dictates it all on the rivalry weekend, and who knows,

820
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 3>it may they may not even play that game in

821
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:25.960
<v Speaker 3>the next couple of years, you know, after when they

822
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 3>started adding more conference games and stuff. But I like

823
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.760
<v Speaker 3>it as the first game because we did. It gave

824
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 3>us something to talk about something, Tom. I mean, we're

825
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 3>not going to be doing, you know, comparisons between the

826
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:39.480
<v Speaker 3>offensive line of Louisville and the defensive line of Austin

827
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 3>p and Kentucky and Southern myths, and you know, we're

828
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:43.880
<v Speaker 3>not gonna be talking about that for the next month.

829
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 3>But when Louisville Kentucky played each other, we did.

830
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Hey. I always said, I am exactly where you are

831
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 1>on that heel, and I'll die right alongside of you because,

832
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>as I said, when this all started, I was working,

833
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>as you know, on TV, but also doing talk radio

834
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>from time to time and now full time. And I'm

835
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.599
<v Speaker 1>in the hype business in terms of talk radio, we're

836
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in the coverage business and TV. But you just talked

837
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 1>about the fact that it gives you better stories to

838
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.760
<v Speaker 1>do leading up to the season, and we would do specials.

839
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you were part of uku of L preseason

840
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 1>football specials and we did someone you know on the satellite,

841
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Rob Bromley on one side of the screen and Fred

842
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Kalgill on the other side. We had a great time

843
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 1>of those. But yeah, when you're doing sports talk radio,

844
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you could address the fact that Curry and Schnellenberger said,

845
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.199
<v Speaker 1>we're tired of people spending the summers talking about basketball recruiting.

846
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>We want them to talk about football. And it worked

847
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 1>now with one and done in the AAU leagues and

848
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>all that, they'd be still talking about basketball. But yeah,

849
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:45.840
<v Speaker 1>we're we're beating a dead horse because it is and

850
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 1>it's worked out well kent for Kentucky of late that

851
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 1>it is the last game of the year and it's propelled.

852
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 1>A win is propelled Kentucky kN a better bowl game,

853
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:57.599
<v Speaker 1>and I think it has stoked the flames of this rivalry.

854
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, well, certainly come in here and beat Lamar Jackson,

855
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, and he has that late fumble and wins

856
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 3>like that. But and last year and also but those

857
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of stories get lost in the height. That's right,

858
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 3>because I mean lost because you know, we don't have

859
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 3>a month, it's a week, and it's basically like a

860
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:20.920
<v Speaker 3>day or two. I mean nowadays in football season, Loull

861
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 3>only talks one day. They talked on Monday, and that did.

862
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 3>We have no access to the remainder of the week,

863
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 3>and so you know, a lot of those stories don't

864
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.760
<v Speaker 3>ever get told, which we're fun, we're fun to do.

865
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 1>It's also lost in the hype of other big games

866
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:37.320
<v Speaker 1>that week, which was my initial fear. But as I said,

867
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.599
<v Speaker 1>we must move on. We'll step out. We'll come back

868
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 1>and talk more with Ken Taylor w ok Y here

869
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Bloom Sider six months come back. We're

870
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.119
<v Speaker 1>talking with Kent Taylor, sports director w ok Y TV.

871
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.039
<v Speaker 1>He has covered UK and u L for many, many

872
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:56.159
<v Speaker 1>years as a sportscaster in Louisville. And we mentioned Kentucky's

873
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 1>media day coming up tomorrow. Everybody's gonna want to talk

874
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.599
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks with Rock Vandergriff. From where you sit, from what

875
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, what you've done on Kentucky football other than QB,

876
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.519
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is maybe the lead or the

877
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 1>lead couple of storylines for UK football this year.

878
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I like that defensive line. Yeah, I mean, Dion Walker

879
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:21.920
<v Speaker 3>is a problem and I feel like this is a

880
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:23.960
<v Speaker 3>could be one of those years where he gets a

881
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:27.719
<v Speaker 3>ton of attention and maybe he has like a Josh

882
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Allen type season, because he seems to be that kind

883
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:35.159
<v Speaker 3>of talent and you don't see it that. I go

884
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:39.360
<v Speaker 3>back to that the Louisville game last year, when you know,

885
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 3>it's not that often where you get a sound bite

886
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 3>where you're like, I don't know if I would have

887
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.400
<v Speaker 3>said that, but I love it because that's that's so

888
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 3>easy figure out. I want that sound bite and then

889
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 3>to back it up. It's phenomenal. And so it's just

890
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.119
<v Speaker 3>it's different than what we normally see, and he seems

891
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:55.880
<v Speaker 3>to be different than what we normally see, and so

892
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:57.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to see him.

893
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.840
<v Speaker 1>He was really good in the score that we did

894
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>down in Dallas. When you get him in a breakout

895
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>room with a couple other players and the coach and

896
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 1>when the local media get him. He was really himself.

897
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 1>I felt like on the podium he was trying to

898
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:13.199
<v Speaker 1>be very professional, and he gave good comments and all that.

899
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of hoping he'd be a little bit

900
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>show a little bit more of his personality. But that'll

901
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>come out with us. But I don't. You know, I've

902
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 1>been here forever, kent and it's hard to recall a

903
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>D lineman with more impact literally and figuratively than Dion Walker.

904
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah, there haven't been. I mean, who would

905
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.159
<v Speaker 3>it be. Yeah, I mean Jeremy Jarman was pretty good.

906
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Josh Allen, but he was a D N rushing

907
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of outside linebacker type. This is a guy who

908
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.280
<v Speaker 1>clogs the middle. That huge hit he put on a

909
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Florida running back a couple of years ago when he

910
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 1>basically introduced himself to college football. You just don't see

911
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 1>that off in a Kentucky No.

912
00:50:56.320 --> 00:51:00.360
<v Speaker 3>You don't. They don't traditionally get those guys. No, they

913
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.199
<v Speaker 3>might develop them, you know, somewhat, but not from the

914
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 3>beginning where right from the get go, it comes in

915
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:08.800
<v Speaker 3>with some hype and then lives up to it. So

916
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 3>it's been it's been impressive to watch it. I think

917
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:12.719
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a big story this season.

918
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Anything else that sticks out And.

919
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Barrian Brown, how fun is anytime you have a guy

920
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 3>who you know that anytime the ball gets in his hands,

921
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:26.480
<v Speaker 3>he could be gone. That's fun to watch, Yeah, because

922
00:51:26.519 --> 00:51:29.239
<v Speaker 3>not not you know a lot of most teams don't

923
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:33.639
<v Speaker 3>have that guy, and so yeah, he'll be exciting. Vander

924
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Griff I haven't seen him that much. I didn't. I

925
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 3>wasn't at the spring game. There's a little video I

926
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 3>really the little video I've watched is him in the

927
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:49.119
<v Speaker 3>playing against Kentucky last year and he looks like, you know,

928
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.239
<v Speaker 3>it looks like he can do a little bit of everything.

929
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:54.599
<v Speaker 3>So so we'll see.

930
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was right in front of me down there

931
00:51:56.719 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines watching this guy, but it was mop

932
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.159
<v Speaker 1>up duty and by then I was kind of numb

933
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:02.679
<v Speaker 1>to it and trying to figure out what am I

934
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>going to interview somebody after the game? What are we

935
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about? But uh yeah, with Ken Taylor

936
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>w l K one, as I mention, kent has covered

937
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>both ends of the interstate, but at one point was

938
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:17.719
<v Speaker 1>doing play by play for U of L basketball in

939
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the ACC streaming channel. And by the way, Were you

940
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>at the TBT game the other night that that got

941
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 1>really interesting, Dane? Were you back in the station?

942
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, I would have gone to it had it been

943
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 3>at seven, like you thought it was. But at nine,

944
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:34.840
<v Speaker 3>you know how that is with the eleven o'clock just

945
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.480
<v Speaker 3>too tight a turn. And so I was back watching

946
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:39.039
<v Speaker 3>it at the station and was not in the middle

947
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:41.559
<v Speaker 3>of the of the scrum and the spit gate.

948
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And all that, which a sense apologized. But well, let

949
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:48.559
<v Speaker 1>me ask you real quickly, what can Kentucky fans expect

950
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>when they send their high flying, three point shooting Kentucky

951
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats against Pat Kelsey's first team. They had a scrimmage

952
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:57.079
<v Speaker 1>the other day, didn't they?

953
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so they're they're in the Bahamas. Yeah, they they

954
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:07.000
<v Speaker 3>played this afternoon. Their second game was at noon today

955
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.440
<v Speaker 3>against the team from Calgary. And I'll say, you know,

956
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 3>obviously you in Kentucky's done plenty of these trips, you know.

957
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:13.920
<v Speaker 1>You.

958
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.480
<v Speaker 3>What I can tell you is they said what I

959
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:20.400
<v Speaker 3>saw the other night in their first game. They seem

960
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 3>to play with the purpose, They play with pace. They

961
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:28.519
<v Speaker 3>they just didn't seem to have that under Kenny Payne.

962
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 3>They didn't. I don't want to call it effort, because

963
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.719
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of that. That's not fair to the kids

964
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 3>because they played and they played hard, but they didn't

965
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.920
<v Speaker 3>have any direction or know what they were doing what

966
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:41.519
<v Speaker 3>they were supposed to be doing, and that is certainly

967
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 3>not the case. Now he's got a deep team. They did,

968
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, like just like Mark propat Kentucky. They have

969
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:50.159
<v Speaker 3>a completely revamped roster and the only player from the

970
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.400
<v Speaker 3>roster last year is the is one walk on. That's it.

971
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Everybody else is completely new. But they had guys who

972
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.000
<v Speaker 3>had something that they haven't had for years and years.

973
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:02.440
<v Speaker 3>This just blows me away every time I say it.

974
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:05.679
<v Speaker 3>But Louisville has not won an NCAA Tournament game since

975
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and seventeen. Think about that, It's twenty twenty four.

976
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Donovan Mitchell was playing. Rick Patino was the coach when

977
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 3>they won that first round game over Dray Harper and

978
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 3>Jacksonville State in Indianapolis that year, and then blew a

979
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.519
<v Speaker 3>halftime lead in lost in Michigan in the second round.

980
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 7>And that's been it.

981
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:27.320
<v Speaker 3>So the NCAA Tournament and they only have one game

982
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 3>since then, right the Richard Patino lost in Minnesota. So

983
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:34.400
<v Speaker 3>that's just crazy. But what he's done is he's putting

984
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:39.440
<v Speaker 3>guys who do have NCAA tournament experience and have won

985
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:43.760
<v Speaker 3>some games in the tournament, and our older guys Chuckie

986
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Hepburn from Wisconsin started every game I think at Wisconsin,

987
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Terrence Edwards was the player of the year in the

988
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Sun Belt, and Javon Hadley I think probably was the

989
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:58.320
<v Speaker 3>most impressive player in their first game of transfer from Colorado.

990
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.159
<v Speaker 3>They won a couple games to the tournament as well,

991
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:04.440
<v Speaker 3>so they have some depth, some experience. They'll they'll at

992
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.440
<v Speaker 3>least be somewhat competitive, which is not something that we've

993
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.400
<v Speaker 3>seen it. They've won twelve games in two years. Yeah,

994
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 3>others it's been tough to watch.

995
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Other than the competitive part. Everything you just said to

996
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:20.719
<v Speaker 1>describe the U OFFL process is what we've been saying

997
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 1>about Kentucky. You know, the brand new roster, new coach exactly,

998
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>but experience age. This is the oldest team I'm sure

999
00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:31.719
<v Speaker 1>in the history of UK basketball, at least dating back

1000
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>to post World War Two when guys came back from

1001
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the service and we're playing at age twenty five or whatever.

1002
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So it should be interesting when these teams knock heads.

1003
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, well, and they play they seem to want

1004
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 3>to play similar styles. They want to run and they're

1005
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:48.280
<v Speaker 3>going to shoot a bunch of threes. That's fun for

1006
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:53.239
<v Speaker 3>the fans to watch. The competition is obviously questionable, and

1007
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:54.880
<v Speaker 3>you don't know which. I mean, they played at Bahama

1008
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.800
<v Speaker 3>selecting the other night, but they had thirty eight assists

1009
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:01.000
<v Speaker 3>and hit twenty three. I don't care who they would

1010
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.280
<v Speaker 3>have not the last two years. They couldn't have done

1011
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:12.519
<v Speaker 3>that against me and four guys that m yeah, exactly.

1012
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's an improvement. It'll be definitely an improvement.

1013
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And and you know, unlike it's a little I mean,

1014
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.840
<v Speaker 3>both both schools, you know, obviously didn't get there. I

1015
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 3>guess they're both probably really, you'd say, their third choices

1016
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:30.400
<v Speaker 3>according to you know, all the speculations, and with one

1017
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.800
<v Speaker 3>of them, the Scott Drew being one of the guys

1018
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:37.960
<v Speaker 3>who turned them both down. Now, Mark Pope is is

1019
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 3>a little more well compensated. Pat Kelsey comes in here.

1020
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:42.440
<v Speaker 3>He's just making a little over two billion dollars a year,

1021
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.440
<v Speaker 3>which is not you know, I mean, obviously you know

1022
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:47.599
<v Speaker 3>we could live on that. But in the world of

1023
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:50.280
<v Speaker 3>college basketball, when you think that Rick Betino was making

1024
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.719
<v Speaker 3>what seven eight million, you know, seven years ago at

1025
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 3>the same job. But he you know, he's still got

1026
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:01.000
<v Speaker 3>a million dollar rais from Charleston. He's had plenty of

1027
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:05.199
<v Speaker 3>success at every stop he's been at. And I just

1028
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:08.800
<v Speaker 3>feel like they're going to there. I don't know how

1029
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 3>big they'll win, but they're going to be competitive and

1030
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be fun to watch, which has not

1031
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.519
<v Speaker 3>been the case. Just the crowd. I look at the

1032
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.280
<v Speaker 3>crowd for the I tweeted this out there, and the

1033
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:20.599
<v Speaker 3>crowd to that TBT game that Freedom All was what

1034
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:24.840
<v Speaker 3>thirteen and six I think, right, Okay. The only crowd

1035
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 3>they had bigger than that last year for a game

1036
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:30.039
<v Speaker 3>in the KFC I'm center was the Cadecktive. Every other

1037
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:34.239
<v Speaker 3>game they they're announced attendance, which isn't even you know,

1038
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 3>the actual attendance, but it was way lower than that,

1039
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 3>even which is crazy because for both programs, you know,

1040
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 3>again with the perspective thing, but we go back to

1041
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 3>win every game was a sell out or at least

1042
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 3>they're going to have over twenty one twenty two thousand

1043
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 3>people for every game, and it's it's just been a

1044
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:54.280
<v Speaker 3>different animal over the last couple of years.

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00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, sadly, but maybe it gets back to

1046
00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:00.559
<v Speaker 1>the to the period where when you're in there, either

1047
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.519
<v Speaker 1>as a fan or a media person, and it's so

1048
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:05.239
<v Speaker 1>loud you can't hear the guy next to you. That

1049
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:07.199
<v Speaker 1>would be fun. And you know, one more thing, Ken,

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00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 1>as we wrap this up, Uh, the other parallel is

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00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I think the personalities of the two respective new head coaches.

1052
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. I'm not dealt with Pat Kelsey.

1053
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to get him on the show some night,

1054
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:21.599
<v Speaker 1>but he seems to be bouncy and energetic, just like

1055
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the guy over here in Lexingon.

1056
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not. I don't think it'll be unusual to

1057
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 3>see both of them like in practice. Not we we

1058
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:34.159
<v Speaker 3>I would, I didn't get the chance to go. I

1059
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:38.119
<v Speaker 3>was out of town, but I was. I was actually

1060
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:40.119
<v Speaker 3>playing in the golf tournament last friday. They'd let us.

1061
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 3>They let us go to u of L practice the

1062
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:43.840
<v Speaker 3>first time we've got a chance to see these guys

1063
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 3>at all. And you look at the video. He's in

1064
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:49.280
<v Speaker 3>the middle of the drills, out there guarding people running

1065
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 3>around like crazy, and you can see the same thing

1066
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 3>we see the same stuff with the videos that UK

1067
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:56.920
<v Speaker 3>has posted of Mark Pope, Mike's out the practice where

1068
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:00.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, these guys are out there, they're active the

1069
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:03.280
<v Speaker 3>one but I think I only went to one practice

1070
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:06.920
<v Speaker 3>under Kenny Payne and it wasn't the same as the

1071
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:09.440
<v Speaker 3>practices I had seen under Rich you know, and even

1072
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Chris Mack pretty impressive practices at u of L. So uh, yeah,

1073
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:15.480
<v Speaker 3>getting back to that for both And the thing is

1074
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:18.599
<v Speaker 3>it's better for everybody when they're both Oh yeah, you know.

1075
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:22.599
<v Speaker 3>And he said that to make it a rivalry, you know,

1076
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:23.519
<v Speaker 3>both sides have to win.

1077
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 1>That's right, That's right, and we'll see if we will

1078
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:28.360
<v Speaker 1>get back there. The exhibit a to that is Kentucky

1079
00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee football for the longest time. So yeah, that was

1080
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:34.119
<v Speaker 1>not a rivalry. It is now, but not then Kent Taylor,

1081
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:37.719
<v Speaker 1>who unselfishly chose not to go to the Bahamas to

1082
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:39.719
<v Speaker 1>cover the U of L game. I sayed, out of

1083
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the wing, I did that once.

1084
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I did that once, and it was a lot of work.

1085
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really is. It's not as much fun as

1086
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:46.360
<v Speaker 1>people think. I've not done that, but I've made a

1087
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:48.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of trips and yeah, you see the inside of

1088
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the arena, in the satellite truck or wherever you're editing.

1089
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's about it. So anyway, kent thank you so much.

1090
00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Are you coming up tomorrow?

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00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Are you delegating I'm gonna have to go to uo

1092
00:59:58.679 --> 00:59:59.800
<v Speaker 3>L because they're both the same.

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01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, okay, well that's the way it works.

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01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:05.519
<v Speaker 3>Has not happened as many times as you think. You

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01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:07.519
<v Speaker 3>have it both the same day at the same time.

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01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.840
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not. Well, we'll be keeping an eye on

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01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you from here. Thank you, brother, good talking to you.

1098
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Thanks Jake, appreciate it.

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01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Up next we'll hear more Kentucky football chatter from Jeremy Jarman,

1100
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk to Kentucky basketball with the Cats men

1101
01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:24.559
<v Speaker 1>and women here on six thirty. Welcome back to the

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01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. Thanks again to Ken Taylor for joining us.

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01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Before I go any further, Happy birthday, if you'll indulge

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01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:34.440
<v Speaker 1>me to my son Jack, who has been alongside a

1105
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 1>few times with me several times frankly in some of

1106
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:41.360
<v Speaker 1>my professional endeavors. So is my daughter Kate. They both

1107
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:44.800
<v Speaker 1>at one point were pulling cable for camera operators at

1108
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:48.679
<v Speaker 1>UK football and basketball games. Kate was smart, she got

1109
01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:51.559
<v Speaker 1>away from the cable pulling and immediately put herself in

1110
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 1>charge of the crew lighting and carrying things, and pretty

1111
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:56.880
<v Speaker 1>soon you were just telling people what to do. Maybe

1112
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:00.519
<v Speaker 1>very proud, but Jack has traveled with me back when

1113
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I was working for the SEC Football and basketball radio

1114
01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:09.039
<v Speaker 1>networks and has driven us the UK Football Network to

1115
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:12.760
<v Speaker 1>some of the away games in fact, but most memorably,

1116
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:16.519
<v Speaker 1>he was with me working for the SEC network down

1117
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.920
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta on tornado night. So yeah, he knew to

1118
01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:23.559
<v Speaker 1>get under the table when things began to fall from

1119
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the ceiling, but I'll never forget. Once the danger had passed,

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01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 1>he and I walked from the arena because we thought

1121
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the last shuttle had just left. There may have been others,

1122
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:34.639
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't get upstairs in time to get this one,

1123
01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>so we decided to walk back to the hotel I

1124
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:39.599
<v Speaker 1>was less than a mile and walk through the wreckage

1125
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that the tornado had left through Atlanta. So anyway, a

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01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:48.239
<v Speaker 1>happy birthday to Jack and all the best to anybody

1127
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:53.480
<v Speaker 1>having a birthday today, including my stepson in law. So yeah,

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01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 1>good day for birthdays anyway. Kentucky football coming up fast,

1129
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:01.199
<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned, Media day tomorrow and if you want

1130
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.559
<v Speaker 1>more on UK football. Right now, we'll go to Behind

1131
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Football via Apple podcast produced by the UK Sports Network.

1132
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I had some fun being on that podcast, hosted by

1133
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Jarman, my broadcast partner. He's alongside Christy Thomas and

1134
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:21.039
<v Speaker 1>works of course with Tom Leech Yepcoro, all of us

1135
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:24.599
<v Speaker 1>on the UK network. And Jeremy was down in Dallas

1136
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and I talked to him a little bit down there

1137
01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:29.039
<v Speaker 1>if you were listening when we were down there. But

1138
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.559
<v Speaker 1>recently we got together and talked on the podcast. Here's

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01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:36.320
<v Speaker 1>an excerpt from the moments when we were talking about

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01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:40.559
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Kentucky football, while it's been consistently better

1141
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and better under Mark Stoops, has had its ups and downs,

1142
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and now Kentucky fans are expecting more really than they

1143
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:52.440
<v Speaker 1>ever have in recent memory from UK football and Mark Stoops.

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01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:56.440
<v Speaker 9>When you look at anything in life, there's nothing, nothing

1145
01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:58.960
<v Speaker 9>comes and it's just a straight vertical line. You don't

1146
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:02.320
<v Speaker 9>get anywhere, you know, whether it's buying a stock, that

1147
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.320
<v Speaker 9>stock never just goes vertical. I mean, you know there's

1148
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:08.159
<v Speaker 9>terms I see people using bar coding up down, up, down, uptown,

1149
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:10.599
<v Speaker 9>and then you let these things kind of settle and

1150
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:12.960
<v Speaker 9>then boom, And I think that we're at a point

1151
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 9>now where over the last few years gave where we've

1152
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:17.519
<v Speaker 9>kind of had the highs and we've had we've kind

1153
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.800
<v Speaker 9>of dropped back down, been a little flat high flat.

1154
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:22.239
<v Speaker 9>Now I think this is going to be a year

1155
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.400
<v Speaker 9>where you have eight home games. Can you get this

1156
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 9>line going back, you know, get it going back vertical

1157
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:31.400
<v Speaker 9>and try to get back to, you know, a year

1158
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 9>like eighteen twenty one where you're knocking on the door

1159
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:38.960
<v Speaker 9>for a possibility to play, you know, playing in one

1160
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:40.199
<v Speaker 9>of the late Bowl games.

1161
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Not only that, dare we dream yes about the playoffs?

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01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, let's just go ahead, And you know I kind

1163
01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:49.320
<v Speaker 9>of played around with that. No, absolutely well.

1164
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eighteen, I think they would have been in the playoff,

1165
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:53.119
<v Speaker 1>don't you I do? I do.

1166
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:56.440
<v Speaker 9>I think that that team was good enough. And then

1167
01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 9>ultimately the eighteen year, I mean, Georgia comes into town

1168
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:03.000
<v Speaker 9>very very very conservative game plan. I thought Georgia came

1169
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.519
<v Speaker 9>with and that's that's respect to Brad White and that

1170
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:09.159
<v Speaker 9>defensive unit. We had pros on three levels. So you're

1171
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:11.760
<v Speaker 9>not gonna put your quarterback in a position if you're

1172
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 9>Georgia on the road to uh, you know, to let

1173
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 9>that game get away from you because you're trying to

1174
01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:17.639
<v Speaker 9>take shots down the field.

1175
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:20.199
<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of different years where Georgia came

1176
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:23.800
<v Speaker 1>in and a win by Kentucky would have opened that gate.

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01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:27.719
<v Speaker 1>But when you looked at that eighteen team, like you said,

1178
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.599
<v Speaker 1>the difference is there was talent. You know, you could

1179
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:35.119
<v Speaker 1>call Josh heinz Allen generational talent. But yeah, you're right,

1180
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:38.079
<v Speaker 1>pros at all three levels. But also the O line

1181
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:42.400
<v Speaker 1>which set the tone. That's I think the biggest question

1182
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:45.599
<v Speaker 1>mark this year, and Marcus Cox talked about that here

1183
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:49.119
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas. You know, can they set the tone and

1184
01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:52.679
<v Speaker 1>be more consistent? A friend of mine, a media person,

1185
01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:56.400
<v Speaker 1>said that he believes they maybe need to let go

1186
01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of the big Blue Wall logo or slowly or whatever.

1187
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:04.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, you know, and I could I can

1188
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:08.360
<v Speaker 1>understand what he's saying, but I really believe, and you

1189
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:12.760
<v Speaker 1>can speak better to this, that I could see them

1190
01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:19.599
<v Speaker 1>embracing the values that that original Big Blue Wall embraced.

1191
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, and and yes, we realized John Schlarman

1192
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:26.280
<v Speaker 1>has gone rest his soul, but what he stood for

1193
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I think still needs to be here, don't you.

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01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.400
<v Speaker 9>I agree, And I think that was just it was

1195
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:33.880
<v Speaker 9>a different age. As crazy as that sounds, I think

1196
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:36.320
<v Speaker 9>when you when you you know, that was what two

1197
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:39.559
<v Speaker 9>two offensive coordinators ago. Yes, So with that, you know

1198
01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 9>that Eddie grand style offense, it was you know, he

1199
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:44.199
<v Speaker 9>was aggressive, they were aggressive running the ball. They had

1200
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:47.079
<v Speaker 9>pros up front, they had pros in the backfield. I mean,

1201
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:48.559
<v Speaker 9>just absolute bruisers.

1202
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:49.559
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

1203
01:05:49.639 --> 01:05:53.639
<v Speaker 9>And that's just that's not college football in the SEC

1204
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.119
<v Speaker 9>the way that it used to be. Now with the

1205
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:58.679
<v Speaker 9>new offensive coordinators, it's a little bit more spread out.

1206
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:01.480
<v Speaker 9>You're getting your backs out in space, but you still

1207
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:04.440
<v Speaker 9>want to be able to tap into that mentality when

1208
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 9>you need it, and in this league you need it,

1209
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:09.119
<v Speaker 9>especially in the fourth quarter. You know what you do

1210
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:12.239
<v Speaker 9>through the first three quarters, run past, mix, whatever. When

1211
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:13.880
<v Speaker 9>you get into the fourth quarter and you have a

1212
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:17.360
<v Speaker 9>lead or you're trying to take a lead, you need

1213
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:19.960
<v Speaker 9>some kind of moniker, some kind of rallying cry that

1214
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:22.519
<v Speaker 9>is at the base, that's part of your identity. So

1215
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:24.679
<v Speaker 9>when you say so, i'd be careful, like you said,

1216
01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:27.159
<v Speaker 9>trying to shed the big blue, trying to shed that

1217
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 9>and trying to create a you know, a new slogan

1218
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:32.920
<v Speaker 9>because you want guys to be able to tap into that.

1219
01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:35.320
<v Speaker 1>That's when they need to Well. As you know, I've

1220
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:38.760
<v Speaker 1>been here forever. I covered my first game in seventy five.

1221
01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:41.199
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm trying to tell you is I've seen

1222
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:44.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams since then at Kentucky who took

1223
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:49.679
<v Speaker 1>teams opponents into the fourth quarter and lost heartbreakers. And

1224
01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you would hear fans, you know I've done talk radio forever.

1225
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.679
<v Speaker 1>You hear fans they didn't want it enough. They were

1226
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.480
<v Speaker 1>out coached, Bob, But no, they got tired and ran

1227
01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.960
<v Speaker 1>out of depth as often as not out of ten times,

1228
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that was the problem. And now this staff from day

1229
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:07.760
<v Speaker 1>one has worked their tails off and a lot of

1230
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 1>assistants slash recruiters have come and gone, but thanks to

1231
01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Vince maryland Mark Stoop still being here, they've done the

1232
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:19.000
<v Speaker 1>same thing. They have tried to recruit to need and

1233
01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:22.239
<v Speaker 1>build that depth, and I think they've done that fairly successfully.

1234
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's why Kentucky now is winning more games than

1235
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 1>it has in the past, and it's winning games in

1236
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that fourth quarter that you just talked about. And when

1237
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:35.119
<v Speaker 1>it comes to me in physical I'll never forget working

1238
01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:38.039
<v Speaker 1>on a TV piece for when I produced the Football

1239
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Coaches Show, we would go into the video room, Jeff

1240
01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Pikoro and I did, and they had just come off

1241
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the first win at Florida and Big George Georgiasapho a

1242
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Jay takes Jeff and me into the video room and

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<v Speaker 1>uses what you guys called the clicker. You know, the

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01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:58.519
<v Speaker 1>remote doesn't really click, but that's what everybody calls it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the as your pointer, right, And we were looking

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01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy in nothing but end zone video and there were

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01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:07.719
<v Speaker 1>some key plays, but he wanted to do that to

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01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:12.480
<v Speaker 1>show me the skill and execution by the offensive line

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01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:17.159
<v Speaker 1>in the swamp obviously against Florida, and he just said

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01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:20.159
<v Speaker 1>things like, yeah, we pushed those guys around and you

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01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:22.079
<v Speaker 1>could see it right there in front of you, the

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01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:25.439
<v Speaker 1>old line opening, you know how the end zone that

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01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:29.800
<v Speaker 1>video that the holes look a lot bigger, dominating, and

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01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget that, and I would love to see

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01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:36.439
<v Speaker 1>this team get back to that and see what this

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01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:39.720
<v Speaker 1>team can do if the old line can regain that

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01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 1>consistent physicality.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I agree with you, and I just got chills

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01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.239
<v Speaker 9>just just listening to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>Big George was now Big George. He was he was

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01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:51.600
<v Speaker 9>a good one. And you know, you talk about Florida

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01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:53.920
<v Speaker 9>and pushing them around, I'll tell your offensive line they

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01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.239
<v Speaker 9>have you know, they've been They've been up and down,

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01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.000
<v Speaker 9>you know, over the past, over the past few seasons.

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01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:04.600
<v Speaker 9>But you see, you saw some big improvement against with

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01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:07.520
<v Speaker 9>some guys last year individually and just collectively, and that

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01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:10.439
<v Speaker 9>Florida game obviously being one of them. But a lot

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01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:12.600
<v Speaker 9>of good blocks over the course of the season, but

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01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.800
<v Speaker 9>then you just kind of have some of those those misses,

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01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:18.159
<v Speaker 9>some of the inconsistencies where you're just not able to

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01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.520
<v Speaker 9>just to keep that momentum going. So now with coach

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01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:24.239
<v Speaker 9>Woolford back at the helm, with that offensive line group,

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01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:28.039
<v Speaker 9>I'm really curious to see where they start this camp

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01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:32.239
<v Speaker 9>and ultimately how this running back room evolves and to

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01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:34.399
<v Speaker 9>see if someone is going to emerge out of that

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01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:38.319
<v Speaker 9>running back group to really establish this all help us

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01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:39.840
<v Speaker 9>up to the old line entity.

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01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:41.039
<v Speaker 1>It is up to the old line.

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<v Speaker 9>And when you look at Marcus Cox, a guy that

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01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:47.920
<v Speaker 9>we spoke with today, he seems like he's very confident

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01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.079
<v Speaker 9>and we had the chance we asked him questions and

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01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 9>he's one of the most experienced offensive linemen in.

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01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:55.600
<v Speaker 1>All of college football, and this is seventh year.

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01:09:57.039 --> 01:10:00.119
<v Speaker 9>I don't know how many years then he is, but

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, just a guy of his caliber, how intelligent

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01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:05.079
<v Speaker 9>he is. When you look at his stats to I

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01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:06.720
<v Speaker 9>think he's at knocking on the door. I think it

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01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:10.359
<v Speaker 9>maybe like forty eight consecutive starts as an offensive lineman.

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01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:14.880
<v Speaker 9>NFL and college coaches, they just love to see a

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01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:17.560
<v Speaker 9>guy figure out how to stay healthy, you know, and

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01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:20.560
<v Speaker 9>oftentimes that's part of the process of just taking care

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01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:24.479
<v Speaker 9>of your body. But that's also just always being the

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01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.039
<v Speaker 9>physically dominant person as well, not being knocked down, not

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01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:30.399
<v Speaker 9>being pushed into a power. There's a lot of whammies

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01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:32.680
<v Speaker 9>out there on the football field, a lot of grenades

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01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:35.479
<v Speaker 9>you can step on. But Marcus Colex, I'm excited to

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01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:39.079
<v Speaker 9>see the step he's gonna take because he's so intelligent.

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<v Speaker 9>And now when we spoke with him, he's talking about, uh,

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01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:46.000
<v Speaker 9>you know, pilates. He's talking about doing these extra things

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01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:48.319
<v Speaker 9>to help with his hip, help with his flexibility and

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01:10:48.359 --> 01:10:51.039
<v Speaker 9>his explosion. If he's able to pick up where he

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01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:53.079
<v Speaker 9>left off last year, but showed that he's a more

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01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:56.760
<v Speaker 9>versatile athlete and really growing to that left tackle position.

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01:10:57.159 --> 01:10:59.920
<v Speaker 9>It's going to be a fun year watching him grow

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01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:03.399
<v Speaker 9>and develop and ultimately propel this offensive line forward.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Jeremy Jarman of the UK Sports Network speaking on

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01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:11.199
<v Speaker 1>the Behind Kentucky Football podcast. Go to Apple Podcasts. Just

1309
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.359
<v Speaker 1>google Apple and Behind Kentucky Football and you'll get a

1310
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:19.079
<v Speaker 1>lot of good stuff to listen to from Behind Kentucky Football.

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01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Up next, Kentucky basketball. We'll hear from Nate Sestina talking

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01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.640
<v Speaker 1>about those big Blue fans, and we'll meet another Wildcat

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01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:29.000
<v Speaker 1>from the women's squad here on the Big Moon Sider

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01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:32.880
<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Moon Sider.

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01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Final segment of our programs that we will shift to

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01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky basketball, more specifically LAFA Media, which plays tomorrow night

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01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:44.199
<v Speaker 1>the UK Infused basically an all star team part of

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01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the basketball tournament. They've made the semi finals. They're playing

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01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:50.680
<v Speaker 1>in Philly. My question will Blue get in how many

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01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky fans will show up, Will either make the trip

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01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:56.880
<v Speaker 1>or from surrounding areas come to watch that game. I

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01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:00.720
<v Speaker 1>think we'll probably all be pleasantly surprised or is surprise

1323
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:04.199
<v Speaker 1>when Kentucky fans show up everywhere? Now, this is not

1324
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:08.119
<v Speaker 1>you know the UK Wildcats, but for all intent purposes,

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01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.680
<v Speaker 1>according to the crowds both in Lexington and over in Louisville,

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01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:14.439
<v Speaker 1>it really is. It has that feel, of course, and

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01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:17.960
<v Speaker 1>after the Wildcats beat the vill worked their way to

1328
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the Semis with an eye on that million dollar prize.

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01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.439
<v Speaker 1>Prior to the U of L game, though Nate Cestina,

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01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:26.800
<v Speaker 1>who keep in mind, only played one season here. It

1331
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:29.840
<v Speaker 1>was the COVID year and so you know what that

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01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:32.159
<v Speaker 1>meant for crowds and knowing say tournament and all that.

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01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:35.239
<v Speaker 1>But he's still got the full dose the taste of

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01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Nation, and he's back living here now.

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01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:42.239
<v Speaker 1>While he's not playing overseas, he plays in Spain professionally.

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01:12:42.279 --> 01:12:45.079
<v Speaker 1>That's why he looks like he's in just great shape

1337
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and is shooting so well because Biggs in Europe shoot

1338
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:52.479
<v Speaker 1>the ball a lot and shoot it well. Otherwise the Americans,

1339
01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:56.760
<v Speaker 1>they're not on the team. And Cistina went wild in

1340
01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the third quarter against the Villain, hit five to three pointers,

1341
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.520
<v Speaker 1>basically State Kentucky to a big lead and left of

1342
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:06.600
<v Speaker 1>media hung on. But prior to that game, since Tina

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01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:08.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about BBN.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, Kentucky basketball fans are I'm sure you guys

1345
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:15.000
<v Speaker 6>are well aware. If crazy is the right word, well

1346
01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:18.319
<v Speaker 6>maybe just you know, enthusiastic. They're i think the best

1347
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:20.199
<v Speaker 6>college basketball fans in the world and some of the

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01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:22.880
<v Speaker 6>best basketball fans in the world even as a pro.

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01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:26.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean, this is a tournament that's been put together

1350
01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:29.000
<v Speaker 6>for how many years and they're packing gyms out. There

1351
01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:33.560
<v Speaker 6>was eleven thousand tickets or something sold out, So first

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01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:35.800
<v Speaker 6>summer basketball in Kentucky to have, you know, eleven twelve

1353
01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:36.359
<v Speaker 6>thousand people.

1354
01:13:36.720 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 1>This big time. That's Nay Sistina. He and his teammates

1355
01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:44.399
<v Speaker 1>will play Carmen's Crew tomorrow night around nine o'clock. They're

1356
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:48.079
<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing on Fox that you know ESPN does.

1357
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.560
<v Speaker 1>They slam them in like two hours per game, and

1358
01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:52.680
<v Speaker 1>these games don't last as long as some of the

1359
01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:56.359
<v Speaker 1>college games because of the elam rule. But they start

1360
01:13:56.439 --> 01:14:00.720
<v Speaker 1>with Forever Koogs a two seed against the Happy Valley

1361
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Hoopers at seven pm on FS one, and then listed

1362
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:08.720
<v Speaker 1>at nine pm La Familia against Carmen's Crew, the group

1363
01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:13.000
<v Speaker 1>from Parentland, primarily Ohio State. That's around nine pm. So

1364
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:17.039
<v Speaker 1>that's the TBT schedule for tomorrow. In the finals are

1365
01:14:17.159 --> 01:14:20.359
<v Speaker 1>the next day so keep an eye on that. Shifting

1366
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:22.960
<v Speaker 1>over to women's basketball, we got a chance to interview

1367
01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:25.600
<v Speaker 1>almost every player. I ran out of time. I missed

1368
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:30.439
<v Speaker 1>a couple, but the brand new roster from Kenny Brooks's team,

1369
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:36.760
<v Speaker 1>including five international players from Australia, Portugal, the Czech Republic.

1370
01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Tanna Becker is from Canada and committed really when Kyra

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01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Elsey was here, but wants to play for Kenny Brooks

1372
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:46.359
<v Speaker 1>at Kentucky.

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01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:49.680
<v Speaker 8>You're kind of far from home. Yeah, tell me why Kentucky.

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01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:53.039
<v Speaker 10>It was honestly, the culture here and the coaches like

1375
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 10>the environment here and the winning culture something every one

1376
01:14:56.119 --> 01:14:56.680
<v Speaker 10>to be part of.

1377
01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:58.479
<v Speaker 5>So coming here was a no brainer.

1378
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:00.760
<v Speaker 8>I've heard so many good things a coach of Brooks.

1379
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:01.680
<v Speaker 8>Could they all be true?

1380
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:04.560
<v Speaker 5>Yes? Yes, he's a great coach.

1381
01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.680
<v Speaker 10>He's really paying attention to detail and really trying to

1382
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:08.319
<v Speaker 10>bring the best out of each in one of us.

1383
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, tell me about that culture you mentioned, because

1384
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't come easily.

1385
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.760
<v Speaker 10>I mean, it's just us putting an effort in every

1386
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.640
<v Speaker 10>day and becoming the best versions of ourselfs and we

1387
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:20.359
<v Speaker 10>know we're capable of being a really great team.

1388
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:21.760
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, how do.

1389
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:23.960
<v Speaker 1>You create culture in such a short amount of time

1390
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:26.319
<v Speaker 1>with kids, you're just you're still getting to know.

1391
01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:30.319
<v Speaker 10>I mean we honestly, we're going through summer training together daily,

1392
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:33.039
<v Speaker 10>so that really bonds us together. All the hard training

1393
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:35.880
<v Speaker 10>and we're doing, and yeah, being on the court together,

1394
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:36.920
<v Speaker 10>it's really helping us.

1395
01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:39.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what you're getting into? Well, you think you

1396
01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:42.840
<v Speaker 1>know what SEC basketball? What is SEC basketball?

1397
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:43.039
<v Speaker 7>To you?

1398
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:45.399
<v Speaker 5>The highest level of basketball?

1399
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:49.239
<v Speaker 10>Honestly, a very competitive, very strong and tough league that

1400
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:50.279
<v Speaker 10>I'm very excited to be part of.

1401
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:52.000
<v Speaker 5>And I know my team is going to do really

1402
01:15:52.039 --> 01:15:53.079
<v Speaker 5>great in the SEC.

1403
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:55.039
<v Speaker 8>Did I see you listed as a guard?

1404
01:15:55.399 --> 01:15:55.760
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

1405
01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:59.079
<v Speaker 8>Six ' one, Yes, you're a guard. You know, back

1406
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:01.159
<v Speaker 8>in the day they played under the bucket, you wouldn't

1407
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:03.920
<v Speaker 8>get the lead. Yeah, So what is that going to be.

1408
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Like for you?

1409
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:05.199
<v Speaker 5>Great?

1410
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:08.520
<v Speaker 10>I mean as a lot of versatile, versatile play and a

1411
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:10.880
<v Speaker 10>lot of our guards are pretty duller guards. So it's

1412
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:13.319
<v Speaker 10>gonna be great to play with one another and really

1413
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:14.520
<v Speaker 10>show off on the court.

1414
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:16.640
<v Speaker 1>How about that? A six to one guard? And as

1415
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, this is a big Kentucky team. Gabby Brooks

1416
01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:24.680
<v Speaker 1>is a transfer from Virginia Tech. She is from Harrisonburg, Virginia,

1417
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:27.079
<v Speaker 1>home of Ralph Sampson and I have been there. I

1418
01:16:27.159 --> 01:16:30.720
<v Speaker 1>was there when Sampson didn't say Kentucky and said Virginia

1419
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:33.960
<v Speaker 1>many many years ago, but Brooks transferred in. She wants

1420
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to keep playing for Kenny Brooks, and why not. She's

1421
01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:40.000
<v Speaker 1>his youngest daughter. Red shirted last year at Virginia Tech,

1422
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to play there, but now she's

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01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a wildcat.

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01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:44.920
<v Speaker 11>He goes in depth with his players, and like he

1425
01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:47.279
<v Speaker 11>truly does care about you, and I feel like he

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01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.000
<v Speaker 11>always will work hard, like what you give him is

1427
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.359
<v Speaker 11>what he can give you, and so like he always

1428
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:54.279
<v Speaker 11>wants the best for you, and he's just always like

1429
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:56.439
<v Speaker 11>going to be there, like on and off the.

1430
01:16:56.399 --> 01:16:58.319
<v Speaker 8>Court, so he knows how to push you the right way.

1431
01:16:58.439 --> 01:17:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, coming from the ACC, good conference.

1432
01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:04.520
<v Speaker 8>What do you know about the SEC.

1433
01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:06.760
<v Speaker 11>I know it's hard, it's a bit tougher, a little

1434
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:09.640
<v Speaker 11>bit more aggressive, but I think that with everyone that

1435
01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:12.720
<v Speaker 11>we have here that we can still be a good competitor.

1436
01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:15.079
<v Speaker 8>What do you know about the physicality of the SEC.

1437
01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:18.439
<v Speaker 11>I know, yeah, I know that it's more aggressive, a

1438
01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:21.640
<v Speaker 11>little bit bigger, like bigger players in the SEC than

1439
01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:26.279
<v Speaker 11>there is an ACC. Yeah, the physicality is definitely more so,

1440
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:26.720
<v Speaker 11>I had.

1441
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:27.479
<v Speaker 1>To play that.

1442
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:28.760
<v Speaker 8>He played at Virginia Tech.

1443
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he'll use here.

1444
01:17:29.720 --> 01:17:30.920
<v Speaker 8>What can you tell us about that?

1445
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:36.680
<v Speaker 11>It's definitely fast paced. We pushed the floor, transition threes

1446
01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:37.800
<v Speaker 11>like all around.

1447
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:39.000
<v Speaker 5>We move the ball a lot.

1448
01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:42.199
<v Speaker 8>And your role will be I'm a shooter.

1449
01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, right up.

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01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:44.640
<v Speaker 8>Front, you're a shooter.

1451
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you got a guard too, don't you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>How are you with that?

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<v Speaker 11>Definitely not my strongest suit, but we play a good

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<v Speaker 11>pack line defense, so we're always there to help each

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<v Speaker 11>other if anything happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Gottay Brooks, one of the brand new women's basketball players,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course will be trying her and playing time

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<v Speaker 1>under her. Pops Kenny, that'll do it. Thanks to Keith Madison.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Ken Taylor that said, good night from the

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<v Speaker 1>garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 8>What has that got to do with it?

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<v Speaker 5>Back off man, I'm a scientist.
