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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna jump right back into the headlines that we

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might have missed from overnight and over the weekend to

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see where things currently stand as of this morning. Once again,

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we'll be using the Independent headline Idaho murders. Brian Coohberger's

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attorneys received thousands of documents and photos as evidence in case.

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This article was authored by Rachel Sharp and Andrea Blanco.

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Attorneys representing Brian Kohberger have now received thousands of documents

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and photos as evidence in the University of Idaho murders case.

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Court filings reveal that prosecutors in Moscow, Idaho, handed over

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the huge trove of evidence to lawyers for the twenty

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eight year old suspect mass killer last week, including nine

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hundred and ninety five pages of documents, one audience video file,

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and one thousand, eight hundred and sixty five photos. So

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that's the evidence that they were telling us about when

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they were giving us the daily updates. Remember, they were

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giving us an accounting of what they've collected so far,

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not so much as specific details, but the amount of

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evidence that had been collected. Well, now all of the

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evidence that was collected during that investigation is going to

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have to get handed over to the defense, and the

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defense gets a chance to go through it and they

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decide from there what they're going to do as far

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as strategy goes. The evidence which shows what led investigators

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to arrest the criminology PhD student for the murders of

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Klee Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin came

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in response to the defense's discovery request in the case. However,

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the state objected to handing over some information in the case,

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including the identity of potential infants, and that's something that

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they're going to wrangle about trying to figure out what

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they have to turn over as far as what the

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court is going to demand and what they're going to

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turn over willingly meaning.

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Speaker 2: The prosecution for discovery purposes.

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Speaker 1: This comes as it emerged that mister Coberger's attorney, Public

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Defender Ann Taylor, has ties to the families of two

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of the student victims. Public defender Ann Taylor previously represented

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the father and stepmother of Mogan in now closed criminal cases.

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She also represented Kernodle's mother, Karen Northington, on drugs charges

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at the time of mister Coburger's arrest, before dropping her

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as she took on mister Coberger's case. The ties of

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raised concerns about a possible conflict of interest in the case,

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and there has been a lot of talk surrounding a

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possible conflict of interest here and what might possibly come next.

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We'll have to wait and see, because with the gag

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order and all of the secrecies surrounding what's going on here,

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chances are behind the scenes they're already discussing this, trying

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to figure out what will work best for everybody involved.

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Xana Kernodle's mother says she opposes the death penalty for

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daughter's killer. The mother of slain's student Xana Kernodle has

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revealed that she opposes the death penalty for her daughter's

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accused killer, Brian Coberger. Karen Northington told News Nation that

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she wants the suspect to pay for what he's done,

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but is against the death penalty. And there's a lot

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of people out there that are like this, folks that

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don't believe in the death penalty no matter what. Now

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I'm in a different camp. I'm not a big fan

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of the death penalty. And I'm not one of these

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people that's always out here talking about this one should

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be killed by the state, or that one should be

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killed by the state. But in certain circumstances, such as

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what we saw in Idaho and anywhere really that you

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commit a crime such as this and the death penalty

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is available to the prosecutors, I think that the prosecutors

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owe it to the state to at least go after

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that death penalty. Remember these prosecutors, they're elected officials, so

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they have to answer to their constituents as well.

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Speaker 2: That's not who I am.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in the death penalty, but I do

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think that he should spend the rest of his days

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in prison.

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Speaker 2: She said.

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Speaker 1: Her stance comes in opposition to the parents of Kaylee Gonsalvez,

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who previously said they would support the death penalty for

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the person responsible for killing the four students. And we

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haven't heard anything from Ethan's parents, so we don't know

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where they stand. But from everything that we have heard

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from them, they seem to be like the kind of

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people that are not for the death penalty.

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Speaker 2: But that's just my observation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, so I wonder how that's

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all going to play out when it comes time for punishment,

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If and when there's a conviction, is there going to

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be a discussion amongst the families in confidence perhaps about

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the penalty phase, or are they just going to leave

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it in the hands of the prosecutor. What can be

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expected from Brian Kohberger's preliminary hearing on June twenty sixth.

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Duncan Levin, a former assistant District attorney in the Manhattan

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DA's office who has no official connection to the Idaho

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murders case, speaks to The Independent about the strength of

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the criminal case and what to expect next as it

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makes its way through the courts. Further Ever, evidence and

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information about the case is not expected to be made

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public until the preliminary hearing on June twenty sixth, after

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a judge issue to gag order preventing officials from talking

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about the case. And not only is there that gag order,

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but they've been slow walking the uploads of the court

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filings as well. Behind the scenes, both sides will be

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conducting investigative work, examining discovery and moving the case forward,

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said mister Levin in the preliminary hearing. The prosecution and

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the defense will then both lay out their cases in

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court for the first time. Witnesses will likely be called

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and the defense will have the opportunity to cross examine them,

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and mister Coberger will enter a plee on the charges.

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I think this case looks like it's headed the trial,

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said mister Levin, adding that due to the complexity of

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the case, it could take some time. As a case

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where the death penalty is on the table, it will

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take a long time to wind its way through the

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courts and it will be a lengthy court proceeding.

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 1: It's not the kind of case a court regularly handles,

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so whether it's in twenty twenty three is an open question.

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And unfortunately, the wheels of justice they take a long

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time to grind, and you see cases like this go

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through the court systems and take sometimes years to get

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to a completion. Now do I think that's what's gonna

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happen here? No, I do not, But who knows. Whenever

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you have something like this working its way through the

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court system, there are all kinds of pitfalls and all

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sorts of evolutionary periods. For a case that is as

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complex as what we see here, so I wouldn't be

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shocked to see more court continuances, delays, and other stuff

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pop up as we make our way towards an actual trial.

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Brian Coberger's attorney receives thousands of documents and photos as

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evidence in the case. Attorneys representing Brian Coberger have now

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received thousands of documents and photos as evidence in the

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University of Idaho murders case. Court filings reveal that prosecutors

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in Moscow, Idaho, handed over the huge trove of evidence

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to lawyers for the twenty eight year old suspect did

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mass killer last week, including nine hundred and ninety five

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pages of documents, one audio file, video file, and one

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eight hundred and sixty five photos. The evidence, which shows

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what led investigators to arrest the criminology PhD student for

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the murders of Klee Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan, Xana Kernodle, and

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Ethan Chapin, came in response to the defense's discovery request

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in the case. However, the state objected to handing over

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some information in the case, including the identity of potential informants.

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And you'll see that a lot whenever you have an

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informant or somebody who might have some information about what's

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going on the State is going to be very coy

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when turning that information over to the defense, and they'll

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wait as long as possible to do that, and they'll

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give you all kinds of reasons why they can't give

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you that information. The state objects to request by the

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defendant for anything not otherwise addressed above, on the grounds

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that such requests are outside of the scope of I

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to disclosure under ICR sixteen G work product and informants

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prosecutors right in the court filings. So they just don't

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want them having access to that yet. And according to

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Idaho state law, they're able to make this move. So

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it's going to be interesting to see what they learn

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or what we learn from these documents. But this is

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all the evidence that the police have as far as

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what they were using as probable cause and what they

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brought forward as evidence against Brian Coberger. Now legally he

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has the right to see all of that. Right, he

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has the right to have access to all of that

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information that has been compiled against him. And then from

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there him and his lawyers, they're going to come up

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with a strategy to try and fight this. Brian Coberger's

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attorney has ties to second victim's family. The attorney representing

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Brian Coberger has ties to the family of a second

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victim of the University of Idaho murders. It has been

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revealed public defender Anne Taylor previously represented the father and

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stepmother of Madison Mogan in now closed criminal cases. According

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to court records seen by Inside Edition Digital and the

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revelations about Ann Taylor working with the victim's family members

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several of the victim's family members just adds another layer

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of intrigue on top of all of the other layers

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of intrigue that we have seen weaved into this case.

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The connection comes after it emerged that Miss Taylor was

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representing Xana Kernodle's mother, Karen Northington, on drug charges at

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the time of mister Coberger's arrest. Court documents filed on

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January fifth showed that the attorney then dropped her as

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a client the same day that she took on Misster

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Coberger's case and represented him in Courton Moscow for the

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first time on charges of murdering Kernodle Mogan. Ethan Chapin

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and Kaylee Gonsalvez. The ties to the victims' families has

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raised some concerns about a possible conflict of interest in

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the case, and we'll have to see what comes of that.

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At this point, we just don't know what's going on

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behind the scenes, right, but it's certainly an important factor

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in what's going to happen next. Is Coburger gonna need

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a new lawyer, is aying Taylor gonna stick it out.

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Is Coburger gonna sign a waiver saying that he's not

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going to appeal on the grounds of Ann Taylor having

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relationships previously with these family members.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we don't have that many answers, so we'll continue

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plotting our way through it and trying to figure out

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what's what all right, folks, that's gonna do it for

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this one. All of the information that goes along with

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