WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:11.039 on the iHeartRadio app. Keeping any here out for what's 4 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:14.160 going on in Washington and beyond. Told you Trump was 5 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:18.960 meeting with a economic advisor from Japan with along with 6 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:24.160 his economic team today in Washington. Chinese leader Shei Jimping 7 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:28.640 is meeting with Southeast Asia leaders. He's told Malaysia's leader 8 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:31.239 that China will be a collaborative partner and stand with 9 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:35.320 its neighbors in the wake of the global economic shocks. 10 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.200 He is on a state visit there to Malaysia as 11 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:42.679 part of the Southeast Asia tour, so we'll see what 12 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:46.359 happens there. Each trying to get more people on their 13 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:48.560 own respective team, so to speak. 14 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:52.280 There's a more activity when it comes to this issue 15 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.920 of the migrants that have been sent to El Salvador. 16 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:59.960 A federal judge says she's going to order sworn testimony 17 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:05.000 to determine if Trump officials complied with her order to 18 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:08.439 facilitate the return of the guy named Kilmar Abrego Garcia 19 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:10.200 deported to this Elsalvador prison. 20 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:12.959 Some people had said he should not have been deported. 21 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:16.319 She said that they the judge said that the Trump 22 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:20.599 administration defied a clear Supreme Court order. The other one 23 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.719 in that case is the federal judge has found that 24 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:28.640 probable cause to hold Trump administration officials in criminal contempt 25 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:33.599 because he said of the wilful disregard of his verbal 26 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:36.920 order to turn those planes around and bring them back 27 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:39.920 to the United States when that whole thing was happening well. 28 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:44.120 On location production when it comes to film and TV 29 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:48.040 production down twenty two point four percent compared with this 30 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:51.760 period last year. Heather Burger from KFI News follows the 31 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.640 entertainment industry for US and joins US now has found 32 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:59.599 some answers about why we're seeing even further decline in 33 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.040 action when it comes to Los Angeles. 34 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:05.920 Hi, guys, so this is an ongoing problem that doesn't 35 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.639 seem to be getting any better. As a matter of fact, 36 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:10.960 this first three months of the year is some of 37 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:14.280 the worst filming production days that we've had in Los 38 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:19.800 Angeles in decades. There was about fifty two hundred shooting 39 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:23.120 days recorded from Film La. Now Film LA if you 40 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:26.919 don't know, it's a not for profit organization that works 41 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.240 with the city and the county in LA to track 42 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:32.960 data essentially for filming that happens in the county, so 43 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.560 they have numbers backing up what they're saying. And when 44 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.439 they say that it's declined twenty two percent, down to 45 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:41.560 about fifty two hundred shoot days. Let me just give 46 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:44.479 you a comparison. Back in twenty twenty one, we had 47 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:48.000 a total number of shoot days of eighteen thousand, five hundred. 48 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:50.240 And is this the first three months a year, just 49 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:51.199 the first three. 50 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.919 Months of the year, and television in particular was hit hardest. 51 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.159 They lost thirty percent. They're down thirty percent in the 52 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.680 number of shooting days. Basically. I spoke to film LA. 53 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:04.039 I spoke to Philip Sokolowski at film LA, and he 54 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.719 says that the biggest problem we're facing right now is 55 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:12.919 our tax incentives. Film producers production companies are not getting 56 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.840 enough money back for how much it costs them whenever 57 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.919 they're putting together a show or a film or whatever, 58 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.800 and they're going to other cities, they're going to other 59 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:26.159 states and other countries and investing in the film production 60 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:28.319 there because they're getting more of their money back. 61 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.680 It's like that golden coupon. 62 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:32.919 You know that you keep getting If you're going to 63 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:34.360 go to the store that's going to give you more 64 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:37.439 money back on your groceries, why would you keep going 65 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:39.439 to the store that's not giving you the best discount. 66 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:41.159 Well, I feel like we heard about this when a 67 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.719 lot of production went to Georgia, a lot of production 68 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.680 went to Canada, and then I remember vaguely a flurry 69 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:51.599 of lawmakers, state and local saying, hey, we're going to 70 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.000 bring production back to LA We're going to offer our 71 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:54.879 own incentives. 72 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:56.199 Yeah, what happened there. 73 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:58.599 So it's still happening. 74 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.280 It's sort of caught up in red tape as everything 75 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:07.120 is so right now, California offers three hundred and thirty 76 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:12.759 million dollar tax credit tax credits for film productions up 77 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:14.919 to they can get three hundred and thirty million tax credit, 78 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:19.959 So the current proposal is seven hundred and fifty million dollars. 79 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.639 But right now it's kind of it's being stuck because 80 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:27.360 there are people who are saying, well, is it worth us? 81 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:29.639 Is it worth it for us to give these giant 82 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:33.560 tax credits to these productions. Are we getting enough back 83 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.600 as a city and as a county to make up 84 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:37.720 for these giant losses? 85 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:38.920 Which is a valid question. 86 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.120 You know, if you're giving every production a seven hundred 87 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.560 and fifty million dollar tax break, are we getting that 88 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:48.839 back as in La in La County, that's a valid question. 89 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.000 But because of that, and because of there's people who 90 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:54.079 are kind of pushing back against it that has not 91 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:58.160 been pushed forward. So here we are still people are 92 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:00.439 losing jobs, people are losing their home homes. 93 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:03.720 There is a major bless you, he'll. 94 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:06.720 Have any bless ye. I always want to do it twice. 95 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:10.600 So there's there's people right now who are who are 96 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.439 really hurting financially because they can't work. 97 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:15.720 Like the average film. 98 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:20.639 LA was said that the average production, according to their numbers, 99 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.560 puts about six hundred and seventy thousand dollars a day 100 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:28.800 back into the economy and fifteen hundred jobs. So we're 101 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.040 talking about millions of jobs, millions of dollars into the economy, 102 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:34.680 not just for people who work. You know, people only 103 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.000 think they of the celebrities when they think of film production. 104 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:41.199 But it's the craftsman, it's the graft services, it's the artisans, 105 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.000 it's the gaffers, it's the sound people, it's all those people, 106 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:48.959 the costumers and local businesses and restaurants who provide catering 107 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:52.480 for these companies. So it's a it's a big overall 108 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.920 impact that we're losing here in California that is going 109 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.879 to other states, and we're not moving fast enough to 110 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:01.079 correct it, and a lot of people think it may 111 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.480 be too late. So many of the others, these other 112 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:07.279 productions have already set up shop and already established. Netflix 113 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:09.879 is opening a huge studio in New Jersey. It's like, 114 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:11.759 you have to make it worth their while. And then 115 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:13.639 some yeah, yeah, and part of it. 116 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.079 I mean, granted, we have a history of one hundred 117 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:20.279 plus years of filmmaking in California, but some of the 118 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:26.000 studio lots, the studio equipment, the studios themselves are one 119 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:27.000 hundred and twenty years old. 120 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:30.480 I mean, yeah, you don't have the up to do. 121 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.879 Granted, some of the greatest technologies in the in the 122 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.040 space have come out of la But if you're if 123 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.439 you want to start a new studio, look at Tyler Perry. 124 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.519 Tyler Perry spent a billion dollars on a production facility 125 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.920 in studios in outside of Atlanta with all of the 126 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.480 space he needs, more so than Warner Brothers and Universal 127 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:53.319 studios put together, and anybody wants to start that same 128 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.120 kind of a job, you're going to do it in 129 00:06:56.240 --> 00:07:00.240 Georgia or Dallas or in Tennessee, because not only do 130 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:04.079 they have the space, they've got the tech, the tax incentives, 131 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:08.839 the political uh, the political atmosphere in those states is 132 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:13.040 also very allied hands off. Yeah, and magic cities in Atlanta, 133 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:14.680 which is another reason you know. 134 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.360 Here will we go it's star guarding. 135 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.480 Well, I mean, I think you don't even have to 136 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:23.319 acknowledge that I will not go ahead. 137 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:26.839 You know, Philip was saying that one of the things 138 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.199 that they're hoping to do with this new tax incentive 139 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:33.480 is to widen the types of content that can be 140 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:36.720 produced here, because, as you know, there is a lot 141 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.759 of evolution in the way we consume content. It's not 142 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.199 just going to the movies anymore. It's not just sitting 143 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:47.439 down and watching ABC, CBS, NBC. You know, there's streaming platforms, 144 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:52.160 there's digital content, there's there are television series being made 145 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:54.519 just for your apps, just for TikTok. 146 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:54.920 Just for YouTube. 147 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:57.560 And you're right, they do need state of the art 148 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:00.439 technology and spaces to be able to we ate that. 149 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.199 But right now the way the current tax incentives are. 150 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.839 It's just for film and television and a very narrow 151 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:06.600 amount of production. 152 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.600 It feels like, because of the history that I mentioned, 153 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.439 it feels like there's a certain amount of arrogance when 154 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:16.040 it comes to political leaders who want to talk about 155 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.040 making sure that we have jobs and making sure we 156 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:21.000 keep the industry in LA but just sitting back and saying, 157 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:23.639 but well, we no one else has a beach like 158 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:25.399 we do, and no one else has. You know that 159 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.839 we've got the weather, we do it weather, But that 160 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:31.680 doesn't guarantee anything. If you're Tyler Perry, you just you 161 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:35.159 move your you move your entire set inside one hundred 162 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:36.919 and fifty thousand square foot building. 163 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:38.360 You don't have to worry about the one. 164 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:40.679 You know who else has the weather Australia And there's 165 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:44.159 a lot of content and production that's moving to Australia 166 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.720 as well, and filmmakers. 167 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:47.799 Are are then Cole Kidman's there and. 168 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:51.519 Nicole Kidman guy, and the guy. 169 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:52.279 You Jackman Jackman. 170 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:56.360 He's the guy Russell Crow, who is very nice. By 171 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.559 the way, Can I just say he's very nice. 172 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:00.960 I just saw LA Confidential for the first time. 173 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:04.679 Watch last Weekend that's a great It was a great movie. 174 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.120 We talk about something that was filmed in LA and 175 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:09.240 shows the story in LA. 176 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:09.919 That's a great. 177 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:11.840 So that was a lot of fun, I mean, and 178 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.720 it made me realize how much I miss Kevin Spacey. 179 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.320 Yeah, I mean, what do you really do? I mean, 180 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:17.799 come on? 181 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:23.159 Also, Russell Crowe, I think much more attractive older as 182 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:24.679 supposed to younger. 183 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:27.000 More seasoned. I think most men do get more. 184 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:29.879 Attractive trying to butter me up. 185 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.200 It's like hell fifteen years ago. 186 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.080 But look at you second time you've said that today 187 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.639 it's a compliment, and see what it's a compliment. 188 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:42.720 Well, I'm gonna have I'm gonna share more about my 189 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.879 interview for Philip I love you guys. I'm going to 190 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.879 share more of my interview with Philip and more in 191 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:50.639 depth and talk a little bit more about what the 192 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.320 situation is, what they're doing to fight it, and how 193 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:57.320 people here in LA who want to stay in LA 194 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:58.919 and keep working here what they can do. 195 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:02.279 Stay tuned KFI News, Heather, we'll have all of those reports. 196 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.200 She does talk to us like we're the mangy neighborhood dog, like, 197 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:06.919 oh I love you, I do love you. 198 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.639 Guys, kay, I totally can. 199 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:12.759 That's how much I love you, I know, and I 200 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:13.279 love that. 201 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:15.759 I haven't been yelled at in the street for years. 202 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:16.879 Felt real good. 203 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.799 You got honked out on Santa Monica Boulevard yesterday, That's 204 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:20.919 because I was jaywalking. 205 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:26.559 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 206 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:27.960 AM six forty. 207 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:29.759 Stories. 208 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:32.320 We're falling for you today. Still have an I on 209 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:36.000 Wall Street obviously. Navidia pulling Wall Street lower today. It 210 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:40.879 said new restrictions on exports to China will chisel billions 211 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.639 of dollars off its results. S and P five hundred 212 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:48.799 found one point two percent. The Nasdaq was dragged down 213 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:55.240 two point one. United Airlines gave two forecasts for its 214 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:59.200 financials for the upcoming year, one if there's a recession 215 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:01.120 and another not oh great. 216 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:01.559 Okay. 217 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.799 You did see shoppers by the way accelerate their purchases 218 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.200 of cars and electronics last month. 219 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:10.360 Try to get in before the terriff. 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Packages cars, things right out of your drive 247 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.360 like that was the main focus of their TV ad 248 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:40.080 that we just saw. 249 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:42.080 That's a sad state of. 250 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:44.679 Affairs, I agree, but it's just a reflection of what's 251 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.600 going on out there right outside your ring doorbell. 252 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.480 Daniel Ridge worked as a morgue attendant for a hospital 253 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:57.080 in Oakland. He was fired or dismissed when returning from 254 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:02.000 a leave period. Well, a judge there in Alameda County 255 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:06.679 Superior Court has awarded Daniel two point four million in 256 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:12.000 a wrongful termination lawsuit against his former employer, Alameda Health System. 257 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.440 Great news, right, Well. 258 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:20.279 Daniel's lawyers can't find him because Daniel is homeless. He's 259 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:23.039 a homeless guy up in the Bay Area. He's got 260 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.000 two point four million dollars and doesn't even know it. 261 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:30.919 They said that he was dismissed from his job at 262 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.639 the morgue because, well, at the same time that he 263 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:39.159 was fighting with his own mental health demons. How could 264 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:41.279 you not if you worked in a morgue, it's got 265 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:45.799 to f you up a little bit, right totally. Apparently, 266 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:49.000 as the case dragged on, because he sued a wrongful termination, 267 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.240 still had it together enough to file that lawsuit with 268 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.120 the help of the attorneys, obviously, but the case drags on, 269 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:57.559 and as it's dragging on, his mental health deteriorates further, 270 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.799 so much so he was unfit to test ay and 271 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:05.120 became homeless, became a strange from his family, including his 272 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:06.080 ten year old son. 273 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:08.399 They don't know where he is. 274 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:10.960 They're trying to find him among the thousands of people 275 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.480 living on the street in Oakland. 276 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:18.279 Yeah, and one of the National Coalition for the Homeless 277 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:21.639 is a group that is in that space. They said 278 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.600 that there are limitations to what information a shelter would 279 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:27.679 be able to provide, even for someone who has this 280 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:31.879 massive windfall. Donald White, as an executive director of the group. 281 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.480 He said, I've seen so many times people searching for 282 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:37.279 loved ones, but there's protections for the people and their identity. 283 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:40.120 So it's a challenge when people get lost in the system. 284 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:47.279 This guy, again, Daniel Ridge, had a life. I mean, 285 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:52.639 you figure. He lived in California during the eighties and nineties, 286 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:55.799 a lot of narcotics gang violence rose sharply in the state. 287 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:59.840 He was one of many people affected by this way 288 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:04.240 of crime. He lost six of his closest friends to 289 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.960 gang related violence. He's in his twenties. His uncle is 290 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.879 killed in front of him by a coworker who set 291 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.639 him on fire with a Molotov cocktail, and two of 292 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.320 his cousins committed suicide right after that. 293 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:21.000 So he had PTSD that when undiagnosed or untreated for decades. 294 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:24.840 But despite all of that, he became a certified nursing assistant, 295 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:28.200 found a job as a part time morgue attendant in 296 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:32.200 Oakland at a hospital. He's hired by that hospital in 297 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:35.279 June of two thousand and six and for years got 298 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.399 great positive feedback in his employee evaluations. 299 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:42.000 So that's two thousand and six that he's hired. 300 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.919 By late twenty thirteen, the full time morgue attendant took 301 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.840 a leave of absence and then retired, so full time 302 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.360 morgue responsibilities fell to this guy, Daniel Ridge. He had 303 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.039 to work seven days a week. He was only getting 304 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:00.679 part time pay and this went on for about a year. 305 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:05.360 So during this year, because he's still part time, technically 306 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:10.440 he's not receiving benefits like health insurance. So he raises 307 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.159 the issue about the hours and the part time pay 308 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:19.799 with several times with hospital leaders and shortly after the 309 00:16:19.879 --> 00:16:23.399 lawsuit announces an opening for a full time morgue attendant, 310 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.879 so he's required to apply an interview for the position, 311 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:34.919 which he eventually got. But apparently he was also complaining 312 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.200 about other things at the hospital. He alleged she was 313 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:41.679 forced to use a landline. What is that a hardship 314 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:45.080 forced to use a landline and go to the hospital 315 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.120 library on a different floor whenever he needed to research 316 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:50.960 medical conditions related to the bodies in the morgue. 317 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.399 There were a bunch of other things, like the disposition. 318 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.799 Why is he researching medical conditions related to bodies? Does 319 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.000 he have to fill out paperwork he is not qualify 320 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.360 to fill out in the morgue about the dead bodies. 321 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:03.440 I don't know. 322 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:05.480 I would know what the morgue has to fill out. 323 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.319 But he also raised the alarm when it came to 324 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.519 things like disposal of formaldehyde. He was asking for respiratory 325 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.920 equipment that he was not supplied with, the sanitation issues, 326 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.519 the handling of bodies, the condition of the bodies when 327 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:20.680 they would come down from the hospital above. At one 328 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:23.240 point he did visit a psychiatrist. He gave him a 329 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.000 note to take work off for six days because of 330 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.079 the PTSD, and he had a conversation with somebody at 331 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.279 the alamy To Health Systems, the hospital owner, who said 332 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:38.440 to him, well, you're eligible for leave a unpaid job 333 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:41.720 protected leave under the Family Medical Leave Act, and then 334 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:43.799 would have to complete the forms by so and so. 335 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:48.359 When he came back to work with his Family Medical 336 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.480 Leave Act paperwork in hand, he was told by his 337 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:52.960 job that he'd been terminated. 338 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:54.880 He was escorted out by security. 339 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:58.440 He later filed that wrongful termination lawsuit against his employer, 340 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:02.480 and again he he won two million dollars for past 341 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:06.599 and future emotional distress, almost half a million dollars for 342 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:08.519 loss of past earnings. 343 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:10.640 And they can't find this guy. 344 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:10.920 Now. 345 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:13.279 God, I'm so torn. 346 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:17.680 I mean, there are legit grievances to have against an employer, 347 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:22.279 but there are so many smaller employers that are so 348 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:28.359 taken advantage of by lawsuits like this. You know of 349 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:30.839 I had to work this, and I had to do 350 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:33.599 this and this, and this gave me anxiety, and this 351 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.599 gave me this and all of the things. 352 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:36.640 And I'm going to assue you. 353 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:38.799 And it's like it's one thing if it's a big 354 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.559 health group or whatever, but it's another thing if it's 355 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.880 like a you know, a dentist office or something a smaller, 356 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.319 you know, outfit. I just feel like so often these 357 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.559 days people are looking for well, how can I sue Okay, 358 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:54.599 so I'm going to get fired or whatever. Well, I'll 359 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:57.200 get them on this. It's like they can't be good 360 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:01.079 for you either, to constantly be like we worked with 361 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:05.079 somebody who kept a list of things that she could grievances. 362 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:08.000 You know, like that can't be good for your own 363 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:09.599 mental health, right. 364 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:12.039 To just be if you're constantly on the lookout for 365 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.160 that sort of thing, you're gonna find it exactly. 366 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:15.319 That's the problem. We'll stop. 367 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:17.039 It's going to affect you more than it would if 368 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:18.519 you weren't super focused on it. 369 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:20.160 I don't know what do I know? 370 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:20.680 All right? 371 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:25.279 Our regular chat with the Los Angeles Police Department Chief 372 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:26.759 Jim McDonald is coming up next. 373 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:31.799 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 374 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:33.200 am six forty. 375 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.559 Right to it waste no more time for LAPD Chief 376 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:40.720 Jim McDonald, who is kind enough to join us from 377 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:42.960 time to time talk about the goings on in the 378 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:45.599 department and in the city of Los Angeles. 379 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:47.640 Chief, thanks for joining us. Today. 380 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:50.160 Yay, good morning, Shannon, thanks for having me on. 381 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:54.200 As always, well, prosecutors have filed a murder charge. Unfortunately, 382 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:57.240 this awful story of this thirteen year old boy vanishes 383 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:00.960 from the valley on a Sunday, body discover on a Wednesday. 384 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:06.200 Turns out it was the trusted family friend like soccer coach, 385 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:10.720 who has been charged and arrested with the murder. And 386 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:13.319 of course, like we've talked about on the show, Chief, 387 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:17.319 when you see the title soccer coach, you think more 388 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:21.119 victims right off the bat. Is that what your detectives 389 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:23.319 are working on at this point with this case. 390 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:27.200 Yeah, certainly they're looking to follow up on any leads 391 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:31.480 that would lead to additional victims if they're working this 392 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:34.400 thing hard and right from the very beginning. Once we 393 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:36.920 got this and it led us in the direction that 394 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.880 ultimately we feared we would be traveling in, we put 395 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.200 a lot of resources into it. The detectives were committed 396 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.960 to this, getting some closure on it very quickly and 397 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.359 hoping to be able to be as comprehensive as they could. 398 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:57.720 And so that continues. They're looking at the current case 399 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:00.640 they're dealing with, but looking for any tenet that may 400 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.079 be associated as well. We've put out the notices to 401 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:07.640