Speaker 1: They keep those burth.
Speaker 2: NHL best bets for Monday, December twenty ninth, Welcome to
puck Time on wager Talk TV. Guys, gonna be back
here with you after a couple of days off and
a couple of days off of the NHL as well
for me, So gonna be back in action tonight. I
have a few plays going in hockey, of course, myself,
the Press, Carmel and Bianco, Brian Leonard got a handful
of guys here on the show today as always, Calm,
I missed John Friday's mother, Howard things and how is
your Christmas? Man?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 1: If we can just get the guy in the background
to stop sneezing or at least mute as Mike, it'd
be great. Andrew, honestly, good weekend for me. I think
across all sports yesterday one and one day in the
NFL yesterday but in NHL, but three o day in
soccer and on Saturday a five percent winter with the
Canes in in regulation. You know, every time I take
a team in regulation, Andrew, the other teams course first,
he just it is one of the worst feelings. You're like,
come on, man, let's get this thing going. But There
are some really good hockey games on Saturday as well too.
The six and sixty win three and three in that one,
some high scoring games in the leaf one that which
I didn't expect seven five, and then the LA Kings
they somehow found six goals against Anaheim. I know they're
playing better defense. I had under six as part of
the six and sixty, and the Kings found six goals.
I don't know. I don't know how they did it.
But anyways, today we got the press coming in. He's
gonna do the All Canadian battle Edmonton Oilers, Winnipeg Jets.
Andrew and I are going to break down Washington and Florida.
Brian Leonard comes in to do the Buffalo Sabers and
Saint Louis Blues. That will be interesting to hear eight
wins in a row for the hottest team in the NHL.
Andrew and I will break down Minnesota in Vegas. Maybe
we'll get Brian to hang round for that one same
game party from Andrew. Hopefully he's got a nice juicy
winner for us. A pod play pod Play wins on
Saturday with Tampa Bay plus one oh five. We're over
seven k in that uh, pod play bank roll. So
that's looking good. And then we're gonna close it out
with a few promos along the way. But appreciate all
you guys tuning in. And with that said, Andrew, let's
bring in the one, the only, the Goat, the second Goat.
Dave Cocain will always be the goat, the second goat,
baby goat, the Press, Morning Press, Hey, baby goat.
Speaker 4: What's up, baby goat? Dave Cocain is the goat according
to you? Okay, yes, but I have a hat that
says boss.
Speaker 1: Anyway, well you are the boss.
Speaker 4: Crazy football game last night, my god, okay, just score now,
just in We saw two hooking ladders on the same day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bills, Yeah, who couldn't score for fifty five minutes?
And then the other looking ladder was in the league
game I'm assuming yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chicago pulled it off on the second last play
of the game, except San Bryan, I mean the San
Franz defense holding on that hooking ladder. That was the
defensive moment of the week because I would say a
team scores nine out of ten times on that play.
Speaker 2: I fell asleep at seven pm last night and woke
up at nine am. This morning to checking the scores
of an unbelievable NFL game.
Speaker 4: Everybody telling me fourteen hours.
Speaker 2: I had the craziest past two days. I needed to sleep,
but it was awful, and of course this is the
game that I miss It couldn't have been a you know,
thirteen to three ball game that I missed. That's the
game that I missed. It was very, very frustrating for me,
but feeling a lot better, a lot well.
Speaker 4: I had a five percent play last night on San
Fran Minus the three, so I got it done. But
I gotta tell you and Carl, you can ask Vivian.
This is a true story, dude. The game starts, Chicago
kicks the ball strand collects it Purty in the sant
Ran team march out to the field for play number one,
and I am living in an NFL nightmare. So I
turned to Vivian and I say, perty's gonna walk out
and on the first play he's gonna throw an interception
pick six to the right side. First play it happens.
Speaker 3: Nobody paid me shit for that.
Speaker 4: Piece of advice. And then Vivian is like, do you
think this game's gonna go over or under eighty at
one time it was eighty and I'm like Vivian if Onally,
I could predict things.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, yeah, get of all presses plays with no
Stradamus fifteen.
Speaker 3: You don't believe me. You want me to bring.
Speaker 1: I do, but we got no. But we have such
a we have such a big show today. Pres Edmonton
oiders minus one thirty, Winnipeg plus one oh seven. Where
are you going with this one?
Speaker 2: Hold on Prez before you before you give your breakdown.
I think you got to just switch together, Mike really quick.
I think you might be on different mic. But yeah,
it was. It was a really good day in the
NFL yesterday. And I'll tell you what. There were some
games and I didn't think we're going to be that quality,
but they ended up being pretty good games as well.
For anybody of anybody out there that's watching the World Juniors.
I'm a big World Juniors fan. Carid you know, I
bet on that uh favorite started off seven and one
straight up and underdogs were seven and one ats Canada,
we're minus five and a half goal favorites against Latvia.
They won two to one in overtime. I haven't betting
the World Juniors quite a bit. There's huge. I mean
pretty much. Just take the team that nobody thinks has
a chance to win on the goal line and you
make money. Because I had friends that were lining up
with goal scoring bets and they won two to one.
You know how many goal scorers could there have been? Right?
So anyway, Press, we got you back. Brother. What do
you have for us in this year?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sorry about that, and thanks for pointing that out. I
moved everything upstairs for end Zone Live. Thanks to the
guys Titans. I know you were there. All these guys
that showed up on end Zone Live. My god, we
had seventeen thousand people. Okay, Edmonton Winnipeg guys, I'm gonna
go completely opposite.
Speaker 3: Of the plan.
Speaker 4: I'm going over the total of six in this game.
And you know this is not the Winnipeg team of old.
This team is twenty and sixteen on the year to
the over. They're playing to the over on a regular
basis of Minnesota. They just played for three seven goals
Utah for three seven goals. And we've got this Edmonton
team coming off of a pretty shitty performance against Calgary.
They were all over the Flames.
Speaker 1: They could have.
Speaker 4: Scored a lot of goals, but they only got two
or that they put up five and four. I think
six is an early low number when you look head
to head. Last time they played each other, which was
in December, was six to two. They've gone six or
more four out of the last five times and I
had to head matchup, and I think both teams are
still well rested from the break. I think everyone will
have their legs. I'm not going to overthink this and
I'm not going to continue breaking this game down. Just
take the over.
Speaker 1: Take over. This is one where the goalies are actually confirmed,
the only game thus far where both goalies are confirmed.
It's Calvin Pickard and O'Connor Hullibuck for for the Jets
a price. You know, when you look at the Jets,
everyone figured myself included once Hellibuck got back in there,
you know the goalie that they would start playing better,
and they haven't. They just can't. Four goals, yeah, and
he's allowed in his last three games eleven goals three,
four and four. And when you're not scoring goals, it
is tough when your goalie is allowing goals as well, too,
do you see, like you know, like we say always
like kind of like regression to the meaning Im'm even
sure that applies to it here, but at some point
the Jets have to turn around their season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Jets are going to be a
bet on team moving forward. Fifteen seventeen and four on
the year. They had a lot of injuries prior, and
I think this team is a is a much better
team obviously than their record. This team's lost five in
a row, Carmen eight of their last nine, so I'm
not jumping in right now, but I will say this.
If Winnipeg wins tonight, and I think they can, I
think that they're going to be a bet on team.
For me. I expect to be betting on them the
next game. Frankly, as soon as they win a game,
I plan on betting on them. So if they lose
tonight and win their next game, I will be betting
on them moving forwards.
Speaker 2: So I agree with that press. I do I think
that they are a team that But I will say, like,
I understand your your thoughts on tonight's game, but would
you say, large picture, the Jets go back to who
they really are, and that's if they win, they probably
goes under and you know Edmonton when they win, it
goes over. Would you say, large picture that is who
Winnipeg is.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Andrew, I don't know. This Winnipeg team
has got scorers up and down the lineup.
Speaker 3: I mean they.
Speaker 4: Don't have you know, Couture off, but this is a
well balanced lineup, especially with the third line being able
to score the way they do. This is a team
that has defenders that can move the pack.
Speaker 2: I don't know, and.
Speaker 4: I don't and I'm not gonna sit here and tell
you that Connor is the same as old So I
don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2: It's cool that he won the MVP. It goes ashit.
This is why it's cool to see that he won
the MVP. Karm to your point, like, you know what
a goalie winning the MVP. It's very rare to see.
But I think that we're starting to see it. Between
his injuries and a bit of regression we've seen from him,
we kind of know why he was the MVP. I mean,
he really is the guy on this team that drives
the bus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pres fresh off a five percent winner last night.
Speaker 4: That is true, brother, I got one NHL play up tonight.
It's the over in the Winnipeg Edmonton game, so don't
need to buy it. That's a client play as well.
I've got one NFL playoff, one NBA one college basketball.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: Don't sleep on my NBA.
Speaker 4: I've been telling you guys with three and a half years.
My NBA has been really good for three and a
half years of betting, so please do not sleep on
my NBA. Other than that, thanks for having me check
out the best betting show ever, carm I think I'm
on a lot this week, so I'm excited to be
doing this with you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, looking forward to it before you head south
and get some nice rays man as well too. Saturday, Baby,
he says, all right, man, listen, best of luck to you,
get out here. We'll talk to you on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Thanks later, guys.
Speaker 1: Andrew, Uh, how was your weekend? Overall? I normally go
right back to you, but we want we we need
to get the press in and out because he's got
his own show and stuff going overall, Like you talked
about the Canada game, I got a text message from
from rob our good buddy, and this is well before
the game. I think it was the night before and
he's like, Latvia, lock it up. Lotvia is the big
play tomorrow. And I think they knocked out Canada the
year before, didn't they in the juniors?
Speaker 2: They they beat them the year before. They checks Checks
knocked them out, but Latvia beat them before in the shootout. Yeah,
it's unbelievable. I haven't really given out much. I've done
some tweets and some videos and stuff. But tonight I
actually do have two plays karm for the World Juniors.
So thanks for teaming me up with that one.
Speaker 1: But that's good.
Speaker 2: I've been real low volume, to be honest with you,
and you know, we it's been frustrating with hockey this
year because I think on the show I've had some
good reads but with some best bets with clients and
the five percent plays just have not gone my way.
We went into the break the last time I've talked
to all of you guys at a five percent with
the Flames and Oilers. That game was three to one
after the first period. I think carm or two to
one after the first period. We didn't get the over there.
That was tough. Uh, But you know what, like NFL,
the player props are going well and we've got some
games that really stood out to us, and we've got
some picks for tonight. So but you know what, my
holiday celebrations stopped yesterday. My dad's birthday is the twenty eighth,
so right when there was all kinds of Christmas celebrations
still going on, and you know how you can feel
a little bit tired and exhausted and maybe a couple
too many drinks. Then all of a sudden, my dad's
birthday comes around and we're going out to celebrate his birthday.
So it didn't really stop. So maybe that has one
reason to deal with why I was in bed at
seven pm yesterday. That could be a main reason. So
I'm refreshed. I was up at the crack of dawn
this morning and ready to rock. I love this NHL board.
How often do we get a board this big on
a day like today?
Speaker 1: Carmen's great, they've it seems like obviously with the way
New Year's sets up, the NHL has sort of swapped
days where Tuesday and Thursdays are the busiest days. It's
Monday and Wednesday or the busiest day. So we're gonna
get a couple of guys on to do those shows.
Brian Lendard will be here shortly after Andrew and I
break down this this second game. Andrew, and for you
guys in the chat, we love you guys. We love
the messages, especially on Friday's video. You guys posted a
lot of messages later on. And how you thought the
six and sixty would do is like as I mentioned
three and three day, Dan Alexander got the best of
me and the newbie versus Bianco Bill's versus Eagles game.
But you know ya, Andrew real quick on that one,
and I'll make this real quick. I think at the
end of the day, it almost turned into you know,
the Bills gambled at the end of the game. They're
pretty much locked in. New England's gonna win that that
division because they're not going to lose to Miami this weekend.
Although now that they're locked in, who knows what happens
next week Josh Allen can get a week off. They
win for two points. They have no faith in their kicker,
who missed an extra point earlier, and an extra point
on that final play would have given him the fourteen
to thirteen win. The Eagles had seventeen yards of total
offense in the second half. That just shows you how
horrible a game that was. And Dan and I were
thinking of going to that game, so I'm glad we didn't.
With that said, let's talk Washington in Philadelphia. Sorry, Washington
and Florida Andrew Florida minus one thirty one, Washington plus
one oh eight. I have thoughts on this game, and
it's a client play, but I'm going to go to
you first on it, and then I'm going to tell
you guys what I have loaded for clients on this game.
Speaker 2: Well, carm I hope we're on the same page for
this one, because you know, I'm going to back the
team that lost their first game back after the break,
and I'm gonna fade the team that won their first
game back after the break, and I'm gonna look back
a little at you for your reaction, hoping that we're
on the same page here. I'm not quite sure yet. Look,
a lot of my metrics, a lot of the numbers
that I look at, have shown really really really big
signs of defensive regression for this Capital's team overall over
the last ten games. The shots on goal out dangerous
scoring opportunities allowed, ranking dead last and shot suppression in
the entire league, just not really getting in front of pucks,
not blocking pucks. And this Florida Panthers team, I think
is going to be really fired up after losing to Arrival.
You know, I'm shocked that Tampa Bay put up performance
that they did against the Habs. Although they got outplayed,
they still scored. But you think that Florida is going
to be really motivated after losing the way they did,
especially to their rival to Tampa Bay lefe ighting. They're
gonna want to get right back on track. They're starting
to get healthier. There have to be a good mindset
in that locker room because well, Matthew Kuschock is backskating again.
So when I look at these numbers, when I pull
up some of the websites that I like to use
right now, whether you're looking at last ten game, whether
you're looking at the last you know, five games, twenty games,
whatever it is right now, the course he four percentage,
the shots on goal percentage that all favors the Florida
Panthers going into this one. Now, I look at some
player props here, I do think Brad Marshan, at this price,
it's worth a sprinkle for a goal, but even better
right now, Sam Bennett to get an assist. I think
you can get pretty good odds on those guys have
been very good, but Sam Bennett's turned into more of
a playmaker. You could take advantage of him now. I
understand the goaltending has been good for the Washington Capitals
long term, and Logan Thompson is great, but some of
the big name guys haven't been great lately for the
Washington Capitals, especially defensively playing two hundred foot hockey, and
I feel like it's a good spot here for Florida.
So Kr, I'm backing Florida off that tough loss against
Tampa and we're fading a team that all the websites
that I use are telling me that they're a defensive regression.
Right now, they're going to start letting in some goals.
I'm hoping you either like the over or you like Florida.
Please don't come back with Washington on me.
Speaker 1: Well, Andrew, here we go. All the websites you like
don't compare well, they do compare their their websites, but
I look at a database of numbers and stuff they
put together, and I think Washington despite that seven to
three loss mixed in there that Washington is a they're
rounding into on form, and by that, I mean, you
guys start playing this team. This is the team that
struggled early on in the season. They're only four points
back of the Carolina Hurricanes right now, Andrew four points
back for the metro lead for a team that struggled
early on. Now you look at these two teams and
they met earlier this season in Florida. That game finishes
six to three. There's nothing that defines a final score
that is misleading. Then that second, then that six to
three number, because this is this is this came at
a time where Washington were taking penalties and Florida made
him pay for it. Three power play goals, two official
power play goals, one on the tail end, one goal
scored on the tail end of the power play power
play expired ten seconds later they score in that one.
They get an empty, empty ned goal as well too.
All of Washington's goals were five on five in that game.
This is a team now that is lowering their their
penalty penalties per game, and their numbers across the board
are getting better. Andrew the only numbers that that scare
me with Washington is their power play percentage and penalty killing.
It needs to get up. Their power plays like twenty ninth.
Their penalty killing is like twenty sixth shots against per game.
Those are all red numbers to me. Those are numbers
that are going to eventually improve for this team. But
I think they are playing better. They went through a
spurt where Thompson wasn't playing great. This is a game
in which I think Washington can go down there and
get the road wind against Florida. This is a good
Washington team, and I get it. Maybe the whole to
chuck back on the ice with the yellow with the
yellow jersey, which is obviously the non contact jersey, maybe
that serves as a bit of a distraction for a
team that has been playing next man up and they're like, okay,
well he's almost back, and you sort of take a
breath and you think that your job is now done.
I'm not saying that's what Florida is doing here, but
at plus one oh eight for Washington, I think Washington
wins tonight and getting plus money with them makes me
feel all that much better. So you and I are
going mono Almano.
Speaker 2: The first game back together, man, my first game back
on the show. We're head to head. Oh my goodness,
didn't take long. Didn't take long for the gloves to
be off at the middle of the ice here at CARMS.
So we'll see what happened. It's gonna be It's gonna
be a good game. It's gonna be a good game.
What would you would you say for me? The way
I look at it is like, I think that if
it goes over, I trust Florida. If it goes under,
I think the Capitals could win because I think that
Logan Thompson has to have a good game, So I
I right now give that goaltending edge to them. Actually,
but how do you feel about the road home stuff?
Does that bother you at all? Or these days in
the NHL it doesn't really mean.
Speaker 1: It doesn't because because the Eastern Conference has such parody
right now you look at it, you know, sort of
like top to the top to bottom. The Sabers have
won eight games in a row, and there's still like
two points outside of a playoff spot. But there are
also eight points out of first place, I think, or
nine points out of first place in h in the conference.
This is how it is you can put together. Yeah,
and we're and I have some thoughts on their game
coming up with Brian Leonar breaks it down. But you
look at some of these teams, Andrew, and aside from
the Buffalo Sabers, there are a bunch of teams that
and very good teams that are just like you see
the the Zigzag in their numbers, win one, lose one,
win two, lose two, uh, and that is parody at
its best. At some point, you would think that we
are going to see the cream rise to the top
in this in this Eastern Conference, but we haven't seen
it as of yet. There's some very good teams at
the top of the Eastern Conference, Carolina obviously being one
of them. The Detroit Red Wings who get the win
over the Toronto Maple Leafs last night in ot another
one of them. So we'll see how it goes. But
there is a lot of the NHL season still to go,
and a lot is going to change between now and
the middle of April, when uh we hit that final
week of the NHL season. Let's bring in Brian Leonard
because he's gonna do the Buffalo Sabers and Saint Louis Blues.
I don't know how Brian comes up with these games.
When I asked him to pick one, but God bless him,
Brian chooses the Buffalo Sabers in Saint Louis Blues. Uh
is Brian there?
Speaker 2: Yes, Karen. If this was this was a television production
company that I think, I think Brian would be. Uh
will be in tough to impress the producers for the
game of the night. But if he he's given us winners.
Doesn't matter which game it is. What's Brian and he's wearing.
Speaker 1: See, I don't know if that's a Sabers blue or
if that's a Saint Louis blue color or whatever. He's
thrown me right off.
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't think when I put this on,
I thought half of it. By the way, to break
your tie, I'm with Carlin. Sorry, sorry, Andrew.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I'll have to feed the public. Then I'll.
Speaker 3: We don't know what we're general public because I play
almost all underdogs. But speaking to underdogs, I've had a
terrific weekend. I know you're talking about your week I'm
sixteen and three over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: I had plus one thirty underdog yesterday that according to
the money Puck deserved a win, meter had a fifty
nine percent chance of winning and I lost. And that
was your Montreal Canadians, says. I don't know what the
hell happened on them early in that game, but they
didn't have the great comeback, but they losing the shootouts,
so we did lose our five percent there. But we've
been hitting everything else, and that was a game I
was very confident on coming in because if you watched
the and I would recommend if you you have the
ability to go back and watch that Tampa Bay Florida
game from a couple of nights ago. I was so
excited to watch that I almost flew to Florida to
see it play play out. It just didn't happen, you know,
with the holidays and all. That was the most fun
hockey game I have seen. And if you haven't watched it,
fights galore. Tampa Bay had seventy seven penalty minutes. I
believe Florida was in the fifties and then Montreal was
already in Tampa because they had the last three days off,
they were there longer than Tampa was they're sitting their
rest and they're practicing, and it's thought. It was a
terrible situation for Tampa, and to their credit, they came
in and won that game. So but next time they're
gonna play, I believe again on February second in Tampa.
Make sure you watch that game, because going back to preseason,
it's just been watching a boxing match in a hockey
game breaks up.
Speaker 2: And that's why I think that they've got the schedules
that up the way they do for the playoffs. People
don't like the format for the playoffs, but I think
that's why they have it the way it is because
they want these rivals playing each other in the playoffs,
which me and Karen were fans of the one versus eight.
I don't know your opinion on it, but the thing
is that new format they've had the last handful of years.
They they're striving to have these teams meet in a
best of seven series. You know, so and then that
has game the coach. I watch all the press conferences, Brian,
as you know, I'm obsessed, and he says multiple times
he's like he's like, there's games we'ves won where I
didn't think that we were the better team, and there's
games you lose where I thought we were the better team.
And he's a very calm guy and his press conferences
and he's kind of smiling and he's like, well, we
know we went to a shootout. But and then even
John Cooper, I don't know if you saw this, Brian,
the head coach of Tampa, he pretty much said that
the team that was better for sixty five minutes didn't
win the game. I mean, that's got, that's tough, that's
but that. But that's that's gambling for you.
Speaker 3: Honestly, hockey, baseball, the money line sports. That happens. You
hit a three run homer and that's your only hit
of the game, and the other team gets fifteen hits
and scores two runs.
Speaker 4: And you win.
Speaker 2: It's like Carmines Bills. They were the worst team all
game and they almost won. Still, you know, yeah, sort
of like that.
Speaker 1: But you know, the funny thing is the funny thing
is I zipped out to grab a quick coffee this morning.
There it is right there, but I normally put it
on five fifty w GRZ or whatever the and they're
talking about the Bills game. They're instead talking about the
Savers game, the Bills lose. They're talking about the Savers game.
But with that said, it is a perfect cube because Brian,
I'm like, I'm listening to them and they're talking about
like the Saint Louis Blues, and we talk about like
teams that you know they're they either win win two,
win one. It's just kind of zig zagging. The Blues.
You have to go back their last twenty games. They
have they have not lost more than two in a row,
and they have not one more than two in a row.
There's a lot of singles to one, one, two, one.
It just keeps going. How can you pick a it's
such a it's such a tough one. There's got to
be a spot here. The Savers are minus one sixteen,
the Blues are minus one oh four. I will say this.
Rasmus Dalen will miss tonight's game. He missed the Bruins
game as well to personal reasons. I'm not sure what
the personal reasons are, but I know he missed earlier
in the season because his girlfriend back in Sweden had
had sh had a heart transplant, so I know he
was He spent a lot of time with her there,
so I'm not sure if there's has something to do
with that. It's hopefully it's not something like that and
it's something completely different. But with that in mind, I
don't want to throw off your handicap. Brian, tell us
who you like in the Blues and the Sabers game.
Speaker 3: You know, I've made a lot of money with Saying
Louis this year, either playing an on him or against him,
and so I feel pretty confident about this one. This
I put this up as a free play, not getting
enough to make it applay for clients, but I really
like it. You know, both teams are playing better hockeys
of light. In fact, the Sabers are run off a
straight victories, as you mentioned earlier in the show, but
most of the Buffalo has had this year has been
on home ice. They're only seven nine and two away
from home, and they're lucky, but they are looking to
avenge a three nothing home shutout loss to the Blues.
In retrospect, that only meeting earlier the season is something
that you know, when you get shut out at home.
It's one thing when you get shut out at home
to the Saint Louis Blues, maybe another. You know, the
current streak for the Sabers. The success has been defense.
They're only allowed fifteen goals in the eight last eight
contests a year. Sabers fan that doesn't have very often.
The Sabers have been a team that's got the really
good offense and the defense hasn't been there. And I
like it when teams play defense. We talked about that.
Prez was very good about Toronto when they were playing well.
It was because of the defense, and I think Buffalo
is in that same situation. Blue is still struggling to
put the puck in the net. They produced us forty
six goals their last twenty one games, only twice scoring
more than three goals. One of those was four, and
I believe they did score six in one game. But
I'm surprised this line is in this range with Kid
just a solid edge on the visitor. Keep in mind
Jason Zucker is back in playing for Buffalo. Gives him
another offensive guy out there. He was averaging basically about
a point of game before he got hurt. He's coming back.
I didn't see any moves in the lines based on that.
I think that makes Buffalo a little bit deeper here.
I like Buffalo in this game. But I also if
you don't want to lay it with Buffalo, maybe play
Saint Louis team total under. I don't think they're going
to score a lot of goals here against Buffalo. I
did see a three and a half minus seventy or
something on the overnights. Don't know what's out there right now,
but when a team is harble scoring and they're playing
a team that's really confident in their defense right now,
I expect Buffalo to win the game and I expect
Saint Louis's offense to struggle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably a couple points to that, just to confirm.
But Zucker is back with Sabers. I think he's going
to swap into the line where Greenway plays, So that
was the speculator that's going to happen. There's something going
on with Greenway as well too, so he's kind of
into the lineup out of the lineup, and I think
Zucker fills in there, and it's a big part of
having him back with the Sabers, And right now they're
showing g Lindi. Roff talked about on this three game
road trip that he was going to use a couple
of goalies, but they're showing right now expected Uka Uko
Pecca luking In from my good friend TJ. Salvador, who
likes me to pronounce that name. He's allowed three or
fewer goals in eleven of his last twelve starts. One
bad start for him against the Calgary Flames, the game
in which I think the Sabers lost like seven to
four to start that road trip where they went on
to beat the Edmonton Oders, the Vancouver Canucks, and the
Seattle Kraken. So maybe they're showcasing him luking In because
at some point I think this new management on the
team says we're not a three team goalie system. They
have Colton Ellis. Of course, they have Alex Lion who's
playing extremely well. Also, so what do you do. Maybe
you get rid of the highest paid goalie that you
have on your her on your roster and uh and
ship them out. So uh any uh so the under
under three and a half, if you can find under
three and a half for Saint Louis, I probably agree
with you that on that one there As far as
uh scoring against the Sabers.
Speaker 3: Sounds good. Like to be in agreement with you guys,
although we're not always in that direction. But it's nice
to have guys you respect that her are on the
same time.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you can still respect me, Brian, if Washington, if
Florida wins, I'll lose all the respect.
Speaker 3: If he was.
Speaker 1: If he was going to lose respect for you is
when your Montreal Canadians couldn't win a shootout.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right that goalie situation though the goalies that
you you know, it's karm is exactly right. You Typically
the way it works is just based on you know,
the business side of things. You always got to trade
away the guy that has the highest earnings, you know,
for the most part. So like Montreal is going through
it right now with their goal to goalie situation. They
don't want to have three goalies. So Montambeau just got
called back up from his conditioning stint. But the two
other goalies are playing well, so none of them deserve
to go down. But you can't have your your number
one player goalie if you if you send them on waivers,
then they'll get claimed for free. So he did a
conditioning stint. It was an NHLPA rule, a fourteen day
conditioning stint. Once that was over, he has to come
back up with the team. The problem is, to krm's point,
they need to showcase these players. So the next time
that you see like what's his name, upl in Net
or you see Montambeau for the Habs in Net, maybe
it's interesting to see what kind of game you get
out of those guys, because because they're pretty much at
this point, I think some of these players, and I
could be wrong, trying out for another team, they really
are like they're trying. Because if you're for the Habs,
like if you're seeing Fowler and Net, who's the future
goaltender of this team? If you're in that locker room
and you're a goaltender, you're looking around and saying, well,
if he's playing that, well that means that one of
us has to leave, you know. So you kind of
start to feel little bit nervous. And that's how it's
going right now with the Buffalo Sabers, three goaltenders in
their situation. Brian, I do want this.
Speaker 3: You brought up a great point, and I got to
give you credit because we were talking about Carter Hart
when Vegas signed him, and you said, how long is
he before he gets to be the number one goaltender,
and I kind of blew it off because Hill's been
there forever and he's done very well for him, and
Schmid had been great. Now all of a sudden, Carter
Hart's the number one goalie and I didn't see that coming.
And I follow that team. There's a lot of guys
in town the same way. Like I was out with
Marco yesterecause since why is the guy the number one goaltender?
And I said, Andrew called that out like three weeks ago.
I mean, I said, when you follow hockey and you're
Canadian like the rest of you, guys, are you know
these things before I did? And hats off for you?
That was that was a great call.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Brian. He's playing pretty well, you know.
And for the Vegas Golden Knights right now, they don't
just have one goalie that can, you know, be relied upon.
They've got a couple of different guys that you can
rely upon, which is which is huge for them. H
we lost Carmen for a second. We'll get him back
here in a second. But just looking at the overall
picture for them and the futures board, how are you
feeling about this team? I mean, it's kind of funny
because the best I think the best couple of teams
in the whole league right now are in one division
with Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota, and obviously Vegas is a great
team as well. Uh, it's kind of funny because the
East has more parody right now, Like the best teams
and the worst teams in the league are all in
the West, and then the kind of middle teams are
in the East. How do you feel big picture about
the Knights right now?
Speaker 3: I have some concerns, I really do. If you take
a look at their record, they're quick picking up a
point by going to overtime all the time. Yeah, and
so when you get to the playoffs, they don't play
the overtimes, they don't play the shootouts, so you've got
to knock all those games off. And if you do
take a look at something like that, you realize that,
you know, the Knights just have not been that good
on the season. On the year, Vegas Golden Knights have
seventeen wins. San Jose Sharks have eighteen wins. The Utah
Mammoth have eighteen wins. Seventeen is in the same range
as some of you know, like Calgary Flames and the
Nashville Predators. Those are regular, those are wins and overtime
in through regulation. They are just not playing well right now.
And and to come off that loss against Colorado, last
time Vegas had a to nothing lead, they had a
fort to two lead. Colorado kept coming back, kept coming back,
and once it goes to overtime, you know what's gonna
happen with the Vegas Knights. They just don't win overtime games.
That was a devastating loss because you're coming off of
a break and you see a team like that. They
knew who they were going to play, they were playing Colorado.
They we got we got to show. We got to
show against Colorado, and they thought they had the game one,
found a way to lose it and they're still without
Chall's not there, Theodore is not there. They put it
Theodore along, you know, on the aisle. So it's I'm
concerned about the Golden Knights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because they have all the makings, they
have all the ingredients to be great. The good news
it's a long season, but gotta stay healthy with them,
and you got to get consistency as far as their
goal scoring, is concerned, but you know, maybe this is
an opportunity without Kle to really find out who you
have down the lineup. It's what I could say. I'm
not sure where Carmine is. Hopefully he's not mad at
me for jumping in there with a quick point, but
we'll find out he took off, went back, You're back? Yeah,
I know. I do the same thing sometimes here Karen,
But come back karm if you'd like to. But you know,
that was the next game that we were going to discuss,
was the Vegas Golden Knights anyway on the schedule, Brian,
So if you don't mind helping me out with it.
You know, we had the Wild and we had the
Vegas gold Knights scheduled for Krmen and I to break
down here and I'll just say this to throw it
back to you. Is you mentioned, you know, some of
the injuries they've dealt with and some of the games.
But I'll just say, looking at the schedule that this
team has kind of had to deal with a little bit.
It hasn't been easy on them. You know, sometimes you
can forecast, like the segment I had last year on
the show, the Buy and Sell, you know, just kind
of forecasting some good opportunities for teams. It hasn't been
easy lately for the Vegas Golden Knights with some of
these matchups that they've had. By any means, so just
spot and circumstances. How do you feel about this matchup
for them?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Fortunately if you if you're a Knights fan, I don't
think they're gonna get the victory today. I have seven
place today and I used Minnesota as one of those plays. Unfortunately,
if you're looking at Minnesota now, you're looking at a
pick them or maybe even a favorite as they've taken
a lot of money overnight. Minnesota's played the more consistent
hockey as of late, and I like the way they've
been playing Vegas. Like I said the last game, the
way they lost that game normally, and I've talked to
a lot of locals that are that when I go
out and they see me in Casino, we talked about
the Knights there, and I've said this before. Normally, if
the spot is a good spot for the Knights, they
come out and they get the job done. This year
it has not been that way. They've had a lot
of great spots where you think, oh, this is the
this is the get right game, this is the game
that take no prisoners on and they have not played well.
That tells me that when you're looking at the records
and you're looking at how many points they have, that's
not the team that Vegas is this year. They haven't
been able to put it all together. And you were
right when you were talking about some of the guys
at the end of the the end of the bench
and some if you take a look at the Colorado game,
just about every goal and set up assist was done
by guys that you weren't expecting. Your assistans, your riley's,
those guys at the second third or the third and
fourth line really came and played very well. They shut
down the better players. I think Marner had either a
goal or an assist, but other than that, they shut
down the better players on it on the Vegas team.
And that's what Colorado does. Colorado's goaltenk has not been great,
but their defense is so good and the way they attack,
and even when Vegas was on their power plays, they
couldn't even really set anything up. Because Colorado has so
much talent they could keep them away from you know,
they get like one shot on a power play. That's
not what Vegas usually does. Vegas is very good on
a power play when everybody's healthy, but they really did
not do well in that game. And I see more
of that here. Minnesota is a very good team. We're
very well coached, got a lot of talent, picked up
a great free agent in a trade, basically a future
free as. So, yeah, I think Minnesota wins this game
and something in the three two range, something in that
in that range, I think Minnesota gets the victory here.
Speaker 2: And I think that you know, we've seen Vegas a
lot of times rely on their offensive capabilities to mask
some defensive errors they've had, and right now, without Eichel,
it's hard to mask some of those errors with goals,
you know. So, and then you start relying on a
goalie too much. And you know, Heart's played well on
some of these guys, but you give them too many
shots against, they're gonna not look that great anymore. So
I do lean towards the Minnesota side, and we'll bring
Karm in for his opinion. And you know, Karm, with Minnesota,
it's this year, it's not just been one goalie, it's
been two goalies, you know, it's been that one A
one B the Swaymen Allmark in Boston situation where it
doesn't really matter who the goal. Minnesota has been so
great not to mention their defensive structure. What do you
think here? Are you on our side or are you
against us?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Considering we had a power failure here which is why
I disappeared off the screen, and Brian, please hang out
for a little while in case it happens again. You
and Andrew can close up the show. But we had a
nice storm here yesterday last night and power was out
for like a couple of hours and just happened. Now
everything just shut down. But back on, I don't even
know who you guys are on, and this one.
Speaker 3: We decided to we're against whatever you're having.
Speaker 1: Oh perfect. Then, with that said, I do like the
Vegas Golden Knights, even missing Shade Theodore and even missing
Jack eichel tonight off of that loss against Colorado, and listen,
a lot of teams are gonna lose to Colorado. Not
a lot of teams have scored five goals against Colorado either.
This Golden Knights team is eventually going to start playing
much better hockey after the and after the break, you know.
I mean the first one was a little tough, meeting
the red hot Avs team right off the break. But
I gotta I gotta believe that at home, even though
this Minnesota team is playing extremely well, that if it's
if I think Walstead isn't scheduled to go, I think
it's Gustofsen, so I think they can beat him. He's
been a very good goal. They're a great one two
tandem that they go going on in Minnesota. But Vegas
Golden Knights at home at some point I have to
start flexing their muscles and turning that into the fortress
that they say it is. All that pregame show stuff
is fantastic, but we need to translate that into wins.
So I'll take the Vegas Golden Knights.
Speaker 5: Am I on the same side, No, no perfect at
home that that home advantage has not been there this
year as opposed to priority years, and Vegas played literally
it could have been their best game of the season
against Colorado.
Speaker 3: They looked really good. It was very exciting, and they
still find a way to lose. The new system with
Vegas I don't think is coming this year, and it's
unfortunately They've only outscored the opposition by five goals on
the season. Minnesota's up nineteen goals. Yeah, well we'll see
what happens. I take it, I give it, and I
take it away. Gave you the credit before I have
to take it away this time, I give it the
Andrew perfect.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like Andrew. The same game party. Do you have
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These are just all guys to get a point or
Mark seifeley assist, Vallardi point and Drystle point that gets
you two plus one ninety five. These are head to
head based matchups. When I look at player props, I
would say seventy percent of what I like to start
my work with, especially with these same game parlays, is
head to head matchups with player props across all sports.
And you know, goalies as well. You can look at
player versus goalies something worth looking at. But we see
this with baseball, like you know, batter versus pitcher. We
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guy performs better against said team, Well, we have Shifley
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Vollardi has had some of his best career games against
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But I just threw in the point prop plus one
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I do believe pres like the over earlier. He's been
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I know it's not the four to one, the six
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Plus one ninety five Volardi point, Shifley assist, and dry
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Speaker 1: All right. I like it, which leads us to before
the power cuts. Oh please don't cut out our pod play.
I do have a pod play and I will go
through it, and then I want to hear what if
Brian is going to be on the same as me
in this one. Let me mark down the time on
this one so I know at what point Brian disagreed
with me. The pod play for today is the Calgary Flames.
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on home ice at the moment, eat one and one
on home ice after starting the season two four and one,
only one regulation lost the last ten. You get the
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goals over the five games. All five games are losses.
The aggression has hit the Boston Bruins. Boston, You're only
allowed to have one good team at a time, and
it looks like that's the Patriots right now. So I
am fading the Bruins taking the hot Calgary Flames at
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Let's see if we can keep that going.
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There are four points out of top spot behind the
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Speaker 2: One thing about that. Karen and I'm not joking around
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I'm waiting to see that come out. If I get
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carm And the funny thing is it could make good
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Washington schedule, basically every team they played since the first
couple of days of this the month of December, every
team is within two points of the playoffs spot. So
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