Speaker 1: And we got a handful of games to talk about.
Speaker 2: And when you look back at what happened last week
Speaker 2: across the board, what sticks in your mind before we
Speaker 2: get into the previews for this weekend? And I know
Speaker 2: that's where I want to spend the bulk of the
Speaker 2: time with you, specifically Western Conference. What sticks with you
Speaker 2: from the last weekend as we're getting ready for a
Speaker 2: conference finals?
Speaker 3: Look that regular she said, It means absolutely nothing that
Speaker 3: as long as you have a game plan, you have
Speaker 3: a way to win a game.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be brilliant. He just has to
Speaker 4: be effective.
Speaker 3: And the Seattle Sounders were example number one that that
Speaker 3: game was designed by Brian Spencer, and I applaud him
Speaker 3: on the fact that he moved things around in every
Speaker 3: single show that I was in the special here with
Speaker 3: the guys from Fox thirteen, I had mentioned the fact
Speaker 3: that satur needed to do something friend to be the
Speaker 3: LAC that I thought that maybe going to a line
Speaker 3: of three in the back would help that out, having
Speaker 3: an extra guy to prevent those long balls from Chaneau.
Speaker 3: Maybe playing with the line of confrontation way deeper in
Speaker 3: a mid block, maybe even a lower block that could
Speaker 3: frustrate LAFC and and not get allow them to just
Speaker 3: get into the game very freely, and that's what they did,
Speaker 3: and it was a brilliant It's pretty interesting and the
Speaker 3: way they at points of the game did outpus us LAFC,
Speaker 3: even with those adjustments made, so they get it done.
Speaker 3: I understand that sometimes it's not the way you want it,
Speaker 3: because this team, I think would have rather tied that
Speaker 3: game with a run to play goal or a set
Speaker 3: piece goal.
Speaker 4: And it was a run to play goal. It was
Speaker 4: an own goal by Chanel.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: They created that luck, that ability to and then in
Speaker 3: the overtime thanks to Stephan Frying heroic, absolutely heroic performance
Speaker 3: by him.
Speaker 4: I thought it was nine shots saved in that game.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was just unreal. Every single save was
Speaker 4: better than the next, the kick safe, the reaction safe
Speaker 4: of deflection from hollandsted shot, then there was the one
Speaker 4: that he crashes against the post. I mean, there were
Speaker 4: so many epic and transcendent saves by all you could
Speaker 4: do was a plot the heart by Ovid bargains that
Speaker 4: was all over that field. There was just a lot
Speaker 4: of things that Shadow did differently that game. Uh, And
Speaker 4: they just held on and stayed in the game.
Speaker 3: So that's what I mean by it doesn't matter how
Speaker 3: you do it, is you getting that win. Jordan Morris
Speaker 3: against his moment of brilliance, he gets a goal to
Speaker 3: one Lac you get through right when he comes to
Speaker 3: Red Bulls. It was it was similar. It was it
Speaker 3: was a more dominant performance. We said it here. You know,
Speaker 3: it was a lot of the of the day. They
Speaker 3: did not need the ball. I think it was thirty
Speaker 3: seven percent of the possession that they had in that game.
Speaker 3: But they were just better finishing than New Yer City. See,
Speaker 3: they were able to get it done. So those are
Speaker 3: the things that I mean. Oscar Pereja, he has one
Speaker 3: way to win. He has one former win. Organized Realy,
Speaker 3: you go push Atlanta United. Was very unfortunate that Jamal
Speaker 3: Tierray gets hurt or gets hurt by Wilder card Deahena.
Speaker 4: She'd have been a yellow by the way.
Speaker 3: Then seconds after in the second half, Rios goes down
Speaker 3: ball to the face. That depth gets really damaged, and
Speaker 3: I think it hinders what Atlanta wanted to do. But
Speaker 3: again is what Orlando did. What they had in their bench,
Speaker 3: everything's put together. So that's what I mean by religious
Speaker 3: and mean nothing. Playoffs are all about just getting it
Speaker 3: done in the playoffs, and that's kind of what has
Speaker 3: this four teams in the finals of each conference.
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm going to spend time in the East
Speaker 2: because I want to spend more time in the West.
Speaker 2: I want to get the East out of the way. Well.
Speaker 2: Red Bulls Purple team. We mentioned early in the show
Speaker 2: about next season, the possibility of Eric maximsubomoting, possibly making
Speaker 2: his way to Red Bulls. Red Bulls are different when
Speaker 2: Forrestburg is healthy, and it's easy to see that when
Speaker 2: you look at the Purple team and Red Bulls.
Speaker 3: What do you say, I see a game that's gonna
Speaker 3: come down to the details, and it's a game that
Speaker 3: will be determined by the playoff that midfield edelmanana Arajo
Speaker 3: got by you.
Speaker 4: I mean, how those duels are kind of.
Speaker 3: Flewing throughout the game, how they're determined, how they're written,
Speaker 3: how they're articulated. That was really going to define this game.
Speaker 3: On the other side, I mean, can Tolkien and tourist,
Speaker 3: what's that going to be?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: I think Opereja is very aware of Red bull Ball.
Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna press them. They're gonna push, They're
Speaker 3: gonna have to be very direct. They cannot make mistakes
Speaker 3: in the back. They got to keep the ball out
Speaker 3: of their own third. I didn't have the weapons to
Speaker 3: do it. It's not their style of play necessarily, but
Speaker 3: maybe just getting that ball over the first line of
Speaker 3: confrontation all the way up top to Angulu on one
Speaker 3: side to Torres on the other. Maybe you just try
Speaker 3: to win more of the secondary balls. That's where you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to do to get it done against the
Speaker 3: Red Bulls. That, as you said, uh, Fordsburg is what
Speaker 3: puts it off together. He is the one that runs
Speaker 3: the orchestra. And you see the difference when he's on
Speaker 3: the ball, and it makes Vin Zero better and he
Speaker 3: makes Morgan better, and he makes everybody around him better.
Speaker 3: And he's so smart and he has that quality and
Speaker 3: that pride because you know he's Every interview they see
Speaker 3: from him is like, look people, oh it's an apology.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: We already knew who were going to be here.
Speaker 3: So they got they got the right character, they got
Speaker 3: the right component. Loves Carpere, love the Purple tape as well.
Speaker 3: They're doing it in the o Way. I think ultimately though,
Speaker 3: it will come out to those guys that define the
Speaker 3: games and just on paper, and the edge between Orlando
Speaker 3: City and the Red Bulls is very minimal. But the
Speaker 3: thing he will come down to the talent, and regardless
Speaker 3: of not being the best moreal of all times and
Speaker 3: being a moreal is pretty diminished. You still got Duncan MacGuire,
Speaker 3: you still got Ramiro Drincue, you still got Torris Oheeda.
Speaker 3: You got so many options up top that I think
Speaker 3: that's gonna end up being the big difference maker in
Speaker 3: Orlando will make it through to the final.
Speaker 2: I know there's gonna be a lot of pressure at
Speaker 2: the back with Red Bulls wanting to force Forhoulson and
Speaker 2: Robin Johnson into bad decisions to create those short fields
Speaker 2: that we're used to seeing with Red Bulls. Right now,
Speaker 2: Purple teams the minus one twenty two ninety minute draws
Speaker 2: a plus two sixty seven. Red Bulls are a plus
Speaker 2: three seventeen to win it in ninety minutes.
Speaker 3: Now, Man, those times are interesting just because the betting
Speaker 3: man in me is like, man, maybe I'll just throw
Speaker 3: fifty bucks out of the rebels, because, like I said,
Speaker 3: that the Red li The lines are so thin. I
Speaker 3: mean it's a really small margin. I think it's way
Speaker 3: closer than the LA Galaxy and Sounders game. But I
Speaker 3: ultimately do believe that Orlando wins this game, and I
Speaker 3: actually do think that it's going to be a couple
Speaker 3: of goals.
Speaker 4: So what's the over under?
Speaker 3: Because I do believe I have a three to two
Speaker 3: possibly this one.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So man, you're running out of room.
Speaker 2: Over under four and a half is a plus four
Speaker 2: fifty seven ooh ooh, or fifty seven for a four
Speaker 2: and a half over if you want to dial it
Speaker 2: back a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Three and a half is still plus one ninety five.
Speaker 3: Give me three and a half, play it safe, three
Speaker 3: and a half. Orlando takes it. I'm comfort were.
Speaker 2: With that, Okay, all right, Now let's get to the
Speaker 2: Western Conference, because I know this is the bread and
Speaker 2: butter here with LAG. We'll start with juice boxes. Then
Speaker 2: you can hang on to this information as we analyze.
Speaker 2: LAG's only a minus one point fifteen, so they are
Speaker 2: less of a favorite at home than the Purple team
Speaker 2: against Red Bulls ninety minute draw plus two seventy one,
Speaker 2: Seattle is a plus two ninety two and they're going
Speaker 2: to have to do it. Paul Rothrock out for the.
Speaker 4: Year, yep.
Speaker 3: And I think those numbers have shifted compared to a
Speaker 3: couple of days ago that it was a little bit higher.
Speaker 3: I thought it was in the plus three hundreds at
Speaker 3: one point for the Sounders, I thought. But yes, Nopul
Speaker 3: roth Rock definitely a big blow to this team. You
Speaker 3: saw how much they needed him in the last game.
Speaker 3: They had to be resourceful obviously, a different information, a
Speaker 3: different way of doing things with Rebaker Whiten as that
Speaker 3: left wing back. Good job by him, by the way, Actually,
Speaker 3: for a player that did not get many starts this season,
Speaker 3: that three min back line did okay.
Speaker 4: I thought Jbell struggled at times.
Speaker 3: You could tell that he hasn't got many starts either,
Speaker 3: less than five hundred minutes this season. But ultimately John
Speaker 3: France of SDH, this is gonna come down to the
Speaker 3: Seattle Saunders perhaps not having enough in this game. Yamerica
Speaker 3: Sentraa went out in the sixty six minute against laoc
Speaker 3: As far as I believe he's in a doctor strain.
Speaker 3: I don't know how familiar you guys are with that injury,
Speaker 3: but six day turnaround after the swallowing goes down just
Speaker 3: seems way too short. Ys not a robot, He's not
Speaker 3: an android. He's you know, he's the man. Man, He's
Speaker 3: a man. There's no way that he plays his game
Speaker 3: to me, there's just absolutely no way. Brand Smetterer said
Speaker 3: there's a sixty percent Chancy place. I don't think that's there.
Speaker 3: Then he said, Rebecca Whiton is a fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3: If Yemar is a sixty and Rebecca White's a fifty
Speaker 3: to fifty, he's not playing this game. I still don't
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen with Knew who who was. We'll
Speaker 3: see what they say today. Because new who was supposed
Speaker 3: to be back on Wednesday, ended up being back on Thursday.
Speaker 3: There's an illness that he caught while with Cameroon. The
Speaker 3: medical team from the Sounders needs to evaluate him and
Speaker 3: needs to clear him. So if he doesn't play, that
Speaker 3: is four guys that are key components to the defense
Speaker 3: the offense that are not going to be there. So
Speaker 3: even if Knew Who plays, I think Seattle's going to
Speaker 3: be at a big disadvantage.
Speaker 4: Nathan look great to him. He came in.
Speaker 3: He was serviceable. He had a big game because of
Speaker 3: the moments of that. You're playing Denis Bwanga, you're playing Bogots,
Speaker 3: you were coming in lating to a game.
Speaker 4: But you could tell when Yemar left that game and
Speaker 4: it was easier for LAFC to get forward. Now, LAFC
Speaker 4: did change it up a little bit.
Speaker 3: They should have gone to a four three three hour earlier,
Speaker 3: and I think that was part of the reason why
Speaker 3: they did jump on the Sounders after the sixty six.
Speaker 3: Well they changed that in the extra time and that's
Speaker 3: when they really came up on top of the seat
Speaker 3: of Sounders. But it's just gonna be difficult. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be really, really hard for Seattle to maintain that game
Speaker 3: style of the best defensive team in MLS because they
Speaker 3: are the best difenit in MLS.
Speaker 4: Do not about it. They have hearts of lines.
Speaker 3: They just showed you that the DNA of the SATA
Speaker 3: sounder is the real thing, and they told you know,
Speaker 3: jerks like me that they can do it all right,
Speaker 3: but ultimately and without.
Speaker 4: The sentiment behind it.
Speaker 3: And look, Brian Smester will continue to be your uh,
Speaker 3: your villain and you know you want to use me
Speaker 3: as motivation, that's totally fine, but I just don't think
Speaker 3: that they'll get it done against the La Galaxy Eli Galax.
Speaker 3: It was fantastic. They have fifteen goals in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: They seem unstoppable. You saw Gabriel Peck. No one can
Speaker 3: seem to hold him down. He was the road runner
Speaker 3: baby on the right side. I mean, it was unbelievable
Speaker 3: what he could do that that goal that he is
Speaker 3: I don't know, sixty yards of a run and then
Speaker 3: go ahead and puts it away. Three players with braces,
Speaker 3: three players with braces. I mean, come on, that that
Speaker 3: is out of this world. Joevilych paincil pack all with braces,
Speaker 3: Ricky doing his thing to moving the strings.
Speaker 4: I just think it's too much.
Speaker 3: Now, that doesn't mean that Seattle cannot pull that miracle,
Speaker 3: because this could be a catch game for Seattle. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys have seen my Twitter and
Speaker 3: the quote by Ovid bargains that Atha was fantastic. I
Speaker 3: spoke to Ovid about dealing with a midfield like La Galaxies,
Speaker 3: and it's talented with guys like Rails and Royce and
Speaker 3: Ricky Pooch, and he said, look, those guys are talented, absolutely,
Speaker 3: but you got to be physical with them. You gotta
Speaker 3: be behind them. You got to picture that you're bothering them.
Speaker 4: Right. He's telling me all these things, and he says,
Speaker 4: I plan.
Speaker 3: To be a plague, A plan to be a loose
Speaker 3: on them that does not let them be free or
Speaker 3: play free. I mean, man, that that is freaking golden.
Speaker 3: That's the attitude, that's the way you do it. So
Speaker 3: the team's gonna have the right attitude, they're gonna have
Speaker 3: all of the belief they're gonna.
Speaker 4: Want to get over in this game.
Speaker 3: But I just think the LA Galaxy are a little
Speaker 3: bit too much for them. I think it'll be a
Speaker 3: close game all the way to a certain point where
Speaker 3: maybe the LA Galaxy goes up two, goes to one
Speaker 3: midway through the second half, and the Seattle has to
Speaker 3: push numbers to get that game done. And when you
Speaker 3: give space to a team like LA Galaxy, you might
Speaker 3: suffer another one. I have a three to one win
Speaker 3: for the LA Galaxy against the Seattle Sounders, but you know,
Speaker 3: all the wrong by a team that has a lot
Speaker 3: of pride and that has identity to win in the
Speaker 3: plows and look, hopefully they will shut me up and
Speaker 3: they will prove me wrong. But with all those absences,
Speaker 3: and even if you knew who is available, I mean,
Speaker 3: he hasn't practiced with the group all week? Who wasn't
Speaker 3: practice with the group a week? So how do you
Speaker 3: get him in there? How do you put him in there?
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a tough game for the
Speaker 3: Seattle Sounders.
Speaker 1: All right before you get out of here.
Speaker 2: And I know that you've got other coverage with other places,
Speaker 2: and you've got to save your pipes and have your
Speaker 2: get through your a cup of coffee number one, and
Speaker 2: get you a cup of coffee number two. If these
Speaker 2: three or four absences are as you anticipate, then what
Speaker 2: would you think the starting eleven is going to look
Speaker 2: like for Seattle? And why would it not be one
Speaker 2: of those situations where Brian Schmitzer just turns it into
Speaker 2: a staring contest for ninety minutes, and it's just like, now,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you have the ball, we're gonna defend,
Speaker 2: We're going to do our thing for ninety minutes, and
Speaker 2: we're going to force you to make mistakes.
Speaker 3: So with new who's a lot easier with new Who's
Speaker 3: a back line of four and it's new Who on
Speaker 3: the On the left side, you got Jackson Reagan and
Speaker 3: I think it'll be Jay Bell at center back with
Speaker 3: Alex Rogan on the right.
Speaker 4: The rest is almost the same.
Speaker 3: You get O bet, you get Christian and the wholeding
Speaker 3: Mint on the left side, I think you get better
Speaker 3: than La Vega at cam Albert Rusnak. On the right
Speaker 3: side you get Georgie, a guy that's young but that
Speaker 3: has done it over and over again. I think he's
Speaker 3: your guy. And then you go Jordan Morris up top.
Speaker 3: Now where he gets tricky is that without new Who,
Speaker 3: there isn't really a wing left back or a left
Speaker 3: back for that matter.
Speaker 4: So the reason.
Speaker 3: Why I don't think that he wants to just give
Speaker 3: the ball to La Galaxy and just drop in is
Speaker 3: because LAFC had proven that they'd rather not have the ball.
Speaker 3: They want to play against the run to play La
Speaker 3: g they do it both ways. They got two masters
Speaker 3: with the ball and Ricky and Michael Royce, so Marcus
Speaker 3: Marco Royce, so giving him the ball might play to
Speaker 3: their strength as well. So I just don't think he
Speaker 3: wants to do that. I think he wants to make
Speaker 3: la g defend. He's gonna want to have Ricky running around.
Speaker 3: It's gonna want to have Roy's running around. He's gonna
Speaker 3: want to make Gabriel peck a little bit farther back.
Speaker 3: You cannot allow your mona to get forward as much
Speaker 3: as he can, So how do you stop that by
Speaker 3: giving him something to think about?
Speaker 4: On that side? So I think he's gonna want to
Speaker 4: play a little bit higher.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: He kind of mentioned the fact that he doesn't want
Speaker 3: to just go to Carson and just said he wants
Speaker 3: to attack. So because of that, I think that he
Speaker 3: does want to do that, but without new it's difficult.
Speaker 3: So that Eleven, I don't. I don't really have it
Speaker 3: for you, man, I really don't. Because let's say you
Speaker 3: go with the back line of three that that's possibly
Speaker 3: what I would do if I don't have my best
Speaker 3: players it's j Bell, Jackson, Reagan and Nathan.
Speaker 4: Then on the left side, you gotta make a choice.
Speaker 3: What I would do is that I would put Jordan
Speaker 3: Morris to play left wing back and go Saba time
Speaker 3: type of situation where I'm having a guy just run around,
Speaker 3: do a whole lot and give me with but preventing
Speaker 3: us from some defending because he has that that motor
Speaker 3: Jordan Morris does.
Speaker 4: Usually Paul Rothrock would be a guy like that, but
Speaker 4: you don't have that.
Speaker 3: You don't got to Baker White, and you're not going
Speaker 3: to put a young guy uh in that position like
Speaker 3: Cody Baker, so it has to be it has to
Speaker 3: be Jordan's. Then up top, Uh, Well, let's go midfield,
Speaker 3: you go Albert Christian Obed.
Speaker 5: And maybe on the well, actually you know, you go
Speaker 5: JP and you go.
Speaker 4: Oh bet, and then on the on that say, you
Speaker 4: could also add Christian Rodan.
Speaker 3: Then you got on the right wing back you go
Speaker 3: Alice Rodan, and then on top of you go Raoul Ridiez.
Speaker 3: I think that's the way you might be able to
Speaker 3: set it up if you need to. But know who's
Speaker 3: going to be a huge component there because this team
Speaker 3: does not have another player is gonna come in on
Speaker 3: that left side to be a left wing back or
Speaker 3: a left back. So it's gonna be very difficult for
Speaker 3: Shadow if he cannot go all right.
Speaker 2: Hit the promo for me and let me know where
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Speaker 3: We hope to definitely so followupus to sports. We're going
Speaker 3: to be back on on Monday. No show today because
Speaker 3: we did the show yesterday, So Monday we're going to
Speaker 3: be doing the recap of how everything broke down. Either
Speaker 3: we look like geniuses or we look like big guys
Speaker 3: with a you know, donkey hat on top.
Speaker 4: We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 3: And we do have a planned show with ninety three
Speaker 3: point three KJR local stations, So go ahead and check
Speaker 3: that out. That's ran by Jackson Pelts. That's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3: Uh So, go ahead and check that out. Hopefully we're
Speaker 3: back on Fox thirteen if possible, depending on how things
Speaker 3: plays out. I would think that if they win, there's
Speaker 3: a higher percentage than if they lose. Uh but yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely just follow me at El Rollo andw go ahead
Speaker 3: and keep you posted on everything that happens within that time.
Speaker 3: And now, even if the set of Thunders do lose,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and be their final en season conference.
Speaker 3: All of that I'll provide you and I'll start getting
Speaker 3: on the phone when it comes to moves and where
Speaker 3: I was gonna go.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a big one.
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen to JP who's still out of contract
Speaker 3: for right now. So there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 3: news walking and flying by in the Pacific Northwest. I
Speaker 3: do appreciate as always being on with John Nelson, man Is.
Speaker 3: I'm thankful for your trust in you know, our information,
Speaker 3: and me on. I'm thankful for your audience and those two.
Speaker 4: Three people that do like me on here. So I
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Speaker 3: I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Man, it's been
Speaker 3: a good year.
Speaker 1: Love your brother will catch up with you next week.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, have a good one, all right
Speaker 1: There goes Nigo Moreno.