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<v Speaker 1>Him my signal and leishall.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is he I'm required to kill? So I kill?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me your name.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Maximus Desmus Meridius, the father of the

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<v Speaker 1>Armies of the North, loyal sovereigant of the true Emperor

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Aurelius, father to.

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<v Speaker 2>A modered son, husband to a modered wife. And I

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<v Speaker 2>will have my vengeance in this life. For the next

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<v Speaker 2>win the crowd, win your freedom. Why are not a

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<v Speaker 2>time today I saw a slave become more powerful than

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<v Speaker 2>the Emperor Rome. I will give them something they've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen before. What are we doing? Live echoes and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Dorky Out. My name is Sonia Mansfield and are

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<v Speaker 2>you not entertained? Joining me is my podcasting sister from

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<v Speaker 2>another mister and the co host of Dorky Out, Marco

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<v Speaker 2>d Hello, my friend, this is so I goes so

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<v Speaker 2>much yelling, and by God merciful, we are dorking out

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<v Speaker 2>about two thousand's Gladiator. I wonder why we're doing this one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's almost like a sequel has come out Weekend

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<v Speaker 2>or something. It is directed by Ridley Scott, screenplay by

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<v Speaker 2>David Franzoni, Sure, John Logan and William Nicholson. This movie

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<v Speaker 2>made so much fucking money. By the way I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>it down, it had a budget of like one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars, which was a shit ton of Now that's

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<v Speaker 2>like catering money for Marvel, but like that was a

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<v Speaker 2>high budget back then. It made four hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I am gobsmacked by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It also won a ton of awards, which we

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<v Speaker 2>will talk about later.

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<v Speaker 1>And it started Gobs backed by that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Stars Russell Crowe, Walking Phoenix, Connie Nielsen, Oliver Reed, Derek Jacoby,

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<v Speaker 2>John and Hansu and Richard Harris. Let's start, like we

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<v Speaker 2>always do. Did you see this in the theater?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I did. I don't have any memory

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<v Speaker 1>of this except seeing it on a smaller screen, So no,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I wont hunter percent saw it in the theater,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember really liking it, like thinking it was

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<v Speaker 2>super entertaining, and I was like, oh, what a very entertaining,

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<v Speaker 2>fun movie. And then it proceeded to be on like

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<v Speaker 2>a million best of lists and be nominated for stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was very surprised by that because it really

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<v Speaker 2>is just like it is a very good entertaining movie

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<v Speaker 2>and it's that it's I'm all the best movie of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. Yeah, it's something well, and Russell Crowe was

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<v Speaker 2>like he had like such a good run. So like

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<v Speaker 2>the year before this he does The Insider, which is

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<v Speaker 2>and is so good and yeah, and then he well actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and then like a couple of years before that, he

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<v Speaker 2>did La Confidential, which is great, and then he does

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<v Speaker 2>A Beautiful Mind, which I don't really like but people love,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he does Master and Commander, which is really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Like and in the middle of all that, he did

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<v Speaker 2>Proof of Life, which is the movie that like ruined

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<v Speaker 2>Make Ryan for the World but somehow made Russell Crow

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<v Speaker 2>super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that the one where she had the affair

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<v Speaker 1>with him and that of her marriage to Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 1>his nuts?

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<v Speaker 2>Disappointing, Yeah, which at the time we were all like,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's all make Ryan. That's very disappointing. But knowing what

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<v Speaker 2>we know now, we're like that good for her, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Like, also, Russell Crows he's very hunky.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a he's a hunk.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a hunk, and he's he's a total hunk in

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<v Speaker 2>this movie, So I get it. But did it deserve

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<v Speaker 2>all the awards that it won. Debatable, So shall we

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<v Speaker 2>go through it? Please? Okay, So movie by the Way

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<v Speaker 2>is like two and a half hours long, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this is unacceptable. I am now one of

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<v Speaker 2>those people that just complains how long movies are. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>those too long? But whatever, So it.

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<v Speaker 1>Opens, I think I posted sorry, I posted one of

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<v Speaker 1>our groups, one of our pages on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>It was something I found.

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<v Speaker 1>Meme I found was like the unique joy of looking

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<v Speaker 1>up a movie and finding out the runtime is only

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<v Speaker 1>ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, yes, I feel like a jerk because there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's definitely movies that I super love and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mind that they're long, and if it's a really good movie,

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't mind. It's when I don't know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>just some movies where I'm like, it didn't need to

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<v Speaker 2>be this long, it just didn't. And I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those movies. It just didn't need to

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<v Speaker 2>be this long. But so it opens with a big

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<v Speaker 2>battle and this is you know, we're establishing that this

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<v Speaker 2>is like, this isn't your mother's gladiator movies. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>like dirty and serious and bloody. It's it's Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just very disturbing. Lots of people getting their heads chopped off,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of horses, horses falling over, which takes me out

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<v Speaker 2>of movies.

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<v Speaker 1>It seriously does too.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm not alone in this. I don't like now

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<v Speaker 2>fight on horses. I spend the whole time worried for.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking about the horse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, right, yeah, same, Yeah, I don't like it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know logically, like I was like, hey, there's people

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<v Speaker 2>on this set that are making sure the horses are okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But even in the terms of the story, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>horses don't deserve this. They just theyll parted everywhere. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope they I hope they made their presence known. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be fine with that. I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a huge battle, lots of people died, blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. But Russell Crowe like it establishes that Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Crowe's character Maximus is this like really smart, honorable leader.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very inspiring to his men. You know, he is

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<v Speaker 2>super loved by the like general who is or not

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<v Speaker 2>the general the Emperor who is that's Richard Harris, right, yeah, Richard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And he like thinks that he would be an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>leader in Rome instead of his no good, whiney son.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is Joaquin Phoenix, who just can't wait to be king.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very excited. He's one hundred percent sure it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>happen for him, and uh he's it's not gonna happen

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<v Speaker 2>for him. He is the Donald Trump junior of this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he thinks it's gonna happen and the Daddy's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give him all the hugs and love him, and uh no,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't happen. Also, he's hot for his sister, which

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<v Speaker 2>is really gross. I know that's really creepy. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>he is Joaquin Phoenix is doing a thing and that

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<v Speaker 2>he is. He is all in.

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<v Speaker 1>He is absolutely and I do appreciate him as I

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<v Speaker 1>get older, I appreciate what he puts into his performances,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how committed he is, Yes he is. He should

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<v Speaker 1>be committed.

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<v Speaker 2>He's committed and he should be committed to So like

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<v Speaker 2>Joaquin Phoenix is like hanging around, He's like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be my moment, Like I'm gonna be I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be king, And instead the Emperor's like, hey, Maximus, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be king? And He's like, nah, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I Like he really just wants to go home. He

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<v Speaker 2>just wants to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants Yeah, he misses his family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he misses his family. He's not interested in like

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<v Speaker 2>the politics of Rome. Like he was a good soldier

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, I've done my job, you know, good

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<v Speaker 2>luck to you. Not interested. And the Emperor tells Joaquin Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 2>whose name is Commodus odas Commodus, it just it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like commode to me, Like I'm like commode, he's a commode.

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<v Speaker 2>So he tells Joaquin Phoenix like, hey, it's not happening

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Like your false is a son is because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a shitty dad. And I'm like that's a nice

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<v Speaker 2>way of saying that. But he then he smothers his father,

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<v Speaker 2>which is intense, very intense and really fucked up. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he's like, you know, the emperor's dead, and he

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<v Speaker 2>asks Maximus to like pledge his allegiance to him now

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<v Speaker 2>because he's going to rule Rome. And yeah, Maximus is

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<v Speaker 2>like a fuck off with that shit and tries to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's committed tree. He's basically committed treason in

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<v Speaker 2>Joaquin Phoenix's eyes, So he like is going to kill

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<v Speaker 2>his family and kill him. Oh, I totally skipped the

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<v Speaker 2>part with Connie Nielsy and Nielsen. Sorry I'm still a

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<v Speaker 2>little congested people. Sorry Connie Nielsen, who's playing the sister

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<v Speaker 2>who would actually be a great leader, but she's not

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<v Speaker 2>a man right, If only she had a dick, then

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<v Speaker 2>she could be the King of Rome or Emperor Rome

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever the fuck these titles are. Because I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not one of those people that thinks about the

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<v Speaker 2>Roman Empire every day?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you No? That's stupid?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever hear? That was a meme thing that

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<v Speaker 2>was going around on social media. It was like that

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<v Speaker 2>men think about the Roman Empire like once a day.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, is that? I don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I have a coworker who is Italian and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, Felipo, do you like think about

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<v Speaker 2>the Roman Empire at least once a day? And he's

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<v Speaker 2>all more than once a day for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, so is it this movie they're thinking about?

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<v Speaker 2>No? He well, he was telling me that. He just

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I don't know. I'm interested in like how

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<v Speaker 2>they built the things that they built, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, oh, just comes up once a day.

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<v Speaker 2>But in his defense, he works and designed, so I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>But that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, other dudes. I was like, they're probably just thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about dudes in like skirts and sandals, right, they just

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't want to say it. That's what they're

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<v Speaker 2>really thinking about. That's what I think. That's when I've

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<v Speaker 2>been that. That's I can't yes say that. Sorry, continue,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's what I'm thinking about when I think

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<v Speaker 2>of the Roman Empire. But anyway, her and Maximus used

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<v Speaker 2>to like have a thing together, like, and she has

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<v Speaker 2>a son, it's about the same age as his son.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very strongly suggested that her son is Maximus's son.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens then, Oh, so then they they kill Maximus's family,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fucking brutal, awful, really really brutal, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that they don't show too much, but still

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<v Speaker 2>even what they show, I was like, brutal. And they

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<v Speaker 2>try to kill Maximus, but you know, he's a stud

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<v Speaker 2>and he kills like can't you can't kills everyone. He

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<v Speaker 2>rides for like fucking days trying to get to his family,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, he's not there in time, and he

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<v Speaker 2>it's super sad, like he buries his family and he

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of collapses. And at that point he is

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<v Speaker 2>picked up by like a slave trader, and that's Oliver Reid,

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<v Speaker 2>who's doing a thing. He's also going everyone's going big.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say this when you when I read about

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Reid and he apparently was a real pain in

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<v Speaker 1>the ass, had a big ego, bit a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a drinker. And then I read the I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>the trivia and apparently he didn't get along with Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Crowe was kind of mean to him, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why even bother? This guy's a pay in

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<v Speaker 1>the ass. He's old. You know, you can get anybody

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<v Speaker 2>it feel not so grimy and dirty and dark. I

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<v Speaker 2>other people like I have friends that like, they love

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<v Speaker 2>this movie and it's one of their favorites. And I'm like, really,

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<v Speaker 2>like you watch Gladiator like a couple times a year.

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<v Speaker 2>This seems weird to me, but again, whatever you do,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>So he gets picked up by the slave trader and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess of the off Broadway versions of Gladiator fights,

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<v Speaker 2>and immediately like Maximus is such a stud, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>just murdering everybody because he's a very experienced warrior and

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<v Speaker 2>there's no I in team. That's when we meet jam

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<v Speaker 2>and they give the they give Maximus this nickname of

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's which really threw me off sometimes. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's anybody who looks Australian. If that's a thing, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Crowe to me. Yeah, I've watched enough Below Deck

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<v Speaker 2>That using below Deck as the standard here and I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>He definitely Africa or Australia, like that's where he swaps Spain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he definitely looks like Captain Jason from Below Deck

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<v Speaker 2>down Under.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and he can have this too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all of it. He could have all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to think about the Roman Empire if

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<v Speaker 2>it involves Captain Jason Jason, yes, or Russell Crowe during

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<v Speaker 2>this time period, he was very handsome. So they do

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<v Speaker 2>all that, they do their like off Broadway gladiator stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually they learn that Joaquin Phoenix wants to like

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<v Speaker 2>celebrate his dad, honor his dad by bringing back gladiator

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<v Speaker 2>fights even though his dad didn't like them and got

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<v Speaker 2>rid of them because he's a piece of shit. Who

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<v Speaker 2>he's a disruptor. Yeah, he's a disruptory. He's he's just

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<v Speaker 1>Margo the I had to see I had to like

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<v Speaker 1>stop myself from contextualizing it into twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, politics, but it's kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard when you're watching a movie where they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a senate and talking things about and policies, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have this dipshit that's like I'm in charge, though

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<v Speaker 1>this bores me, like make some games and kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll by the way, same the same shit is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And Gladiator too, by the way, where I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this movie is Gladiator two is more fun than Gladiator,

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<v Speaker 2>and like Denzil Washington is like like chewing the scenery

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<v Speaker 2>and like every actually they all are except for like

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Meskal and Pedro pescal are not. They're like they're

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<v Speaker 2>in a more sincere version of the movie and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>else is like I'm the leader, but like they're just

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<v Speaker 2>like doing all this and it's very hard not to

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<v Speaker 2>read like current state of affairs into these movies because

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about distracting the masses with like fucking gladiator

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<v Speaker 2>fights and shit that doesn't matter while they strip away

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<v Speaker 2>their freedoms exactly, and that's happening in this movie. And

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Jacobi's character is a senator who actually says, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's what he's doing. He's the walking Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>characters throwing having all these Gladiator fights so that they

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<v Speaker 2>are all distracted while he strips away all their freedoms

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<v Speaker 2>and rights. That's what he's doing. And yeah, and he's just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not a good leader. He's not merciful. He's screaming later,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a real piece of shit. And so he's bringing

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<v Speaker 2>back his gladiator, bringing back the gladiator fights, and Russell

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<v Speaker 2>Crowe and his leads all the gladiators out there to fight,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's just such a leader. He's like, let's all

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<v Speaker 2>work together. This is how we survive this. And what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about the fight scenes in this movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're over the top and gruesome. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it's really entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, Yeah, I think there's a get

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<v Speaker 2>the Spectacle. Yeah, yeah, I think they're really well done.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one that involves tigers that that's really great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really really well done. I mean spoilers. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that one of the tigers gets hurt of it,

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<v Speaker 2>because again, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't get really get hurt though, no I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I was like, but they have sharks on

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<v Speaker 2>the new one. Yes, Okay, So my sister and I

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<v Speaker 2>chatted on the phone yesterday because I was like, she

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<v Speaker 2>knew I was gonna watch Gladiator last night, and she

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<v Speaker 2>had also just seen Gladiator too, and she's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not buying it the whole Like there's a thing where

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<v Speaker 2>they like fill the Colisseum with water and sharks and

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<v Speaker 2>like they have all these boats in there and they're

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<v Speaker 2>recreating some naval battle and it's again very entertaining. And

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<v Speaker 2>my sister's like, well, how do they water proof the coliseum?

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<v Speaker 2>Like how did they do this? How did they get

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<v Speaker 2>the sharks in there? And I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we're supposed to think about that stuff, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can't. You can't overthink it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't more interested in I am interested in the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Empire in that they were so highly evolved. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was destroyed and that like man had

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<v Speaker 1>to start all over again, and so the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the I was fascinated by the fabrics that were

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<v Speaker 1>flowing over the Colisseum. That was like they think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what really they used to cool it down? Like they

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<v Speaker 1>were very very advanced, right, So there's parts of it

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<v Speaker 1>are really interesting to be because they had like underwater systems,

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<v Speaker 1>they had bathrooms they had saunas, they had they had

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing. Yeah, then plumbing and irrigation and exactly exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very very highly enlightened and then it

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<v Speaker 1>was crushed. So it is interesting to see all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Joaquin Phoenix is playing the petulant child who's

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<v Speaker 1>having these people be slaughtered in front of him as

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<v Speaker 1>a way of throwing chum to the masses to keep

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<v Speaker 1>them distracted from the things that are happening, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>crushing the Senate and other things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he he wants the people to love him

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<v Speaker 2>and respect him and fear him. Well I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Yeah, he does want them to fear him, but

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<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't want to do things to like earn

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<v Speaker 2>those Like he's like I should just get them because

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<v Speaker 2>of who I am, which is so fucking artistic, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and also is just so yeah, it's yeah, he's entitled

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<v Speaker 2>to those things according to him. So there's a huge fight,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course, like Russell Crow like kicks ass and

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<v Speaker 2>like they murder all these people, and well he's defending himself, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I okay, yeah, they're going to kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so I use the word murder, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was like people died that they were going to kill

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<v Speaker 2>him first, so he uh oh. And then Joaquin Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>is like, I want to meet this spaniard that everyone

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<v Speaker 2>because it's kind of like progress. They all have like

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<v Speaker 2>character names, and he's starting to be kind of famous,

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<v Speaker 2>like the crowd super into him. He's trying to win

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<v Speaker 2>over the crowd, and so Joaquin Phoenix takes the little

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<v Speaker 2>his little nephew Lucius down there to meet the Spaniard

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<v Speaker 2>and when he takes off his helmet, of course he's

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<v Speaker 2>Russell Crowe and he's like ooh, you know, the big reveal,

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<v Speaker 2>and but the crowd, he he immediately wants him killed

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<v Speaker 2>because he's supposed to be dead, and the crowd loves him.

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<v Speaker 2>They love the Spaniard, so he spares his life, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we then cut to Russell or not Russell crow

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<v Speaker 2>Joaquin Phoenix up in his like room where he's terribly vexed,

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<v Speaker 2>terribly vexed. It vexes me, it vexes me. I'm terribly

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<v Speaker 2>vexed that the Maximus is still alive, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to be a thing that happens. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he's like so gross with his sister, like just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like just touching her and peeping on her and like

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<v Speaker 2>stay the night with me, and she's like peace out,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she doesn't want any part of that. And she

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<v Speaker 2>is she is trapped like women didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of power back then, and she is dependent on her

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<v Speaker 2>brother for survival and he's super fucking gross and she's

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of him because he's a monster, and he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>close with her son, and she's trying to protect her boy.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's in a really shitty situation. And her her

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<v Speaker 2>kid seems lovely. He seems like a nice boy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a nice kid.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a nice kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice boy. I like their flat American accents kind of everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of I mean that really is, because you

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<v Speaker 1>know sometimes it's like European and people kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I think it's Yeah, it's really well laid out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's visually, it's a beautiful movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the script At times I was like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cheat.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean just the first half hours, like all

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<v Speaker 2>like battle and it's just to show how badass Maximus

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<v Speaker 2>is and I don't think we needed that. So then

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<v Speaker 2>by the time everything else starts happening. I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already tired, so but that's me what Oh what was

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<v Speaker 2>I gonna say? Oh, there's like a scene where they're

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<v Speaker 2>like walking around in some market or something and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of guys and they're just like playing a

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<v Speaker 2>game with a cobra. Did you see that?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, what the fuck I just wrote

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<v Speaker 2>in my notes? Were they also that fucking bored in

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<v Speaker 2>rome that they're just like, let's play this game of

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<v Speaker 2>checkers but it somehow involves a cobra. Maybe No, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Cobra's terrify me.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always scared that they their venom is gonna blind me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm scared of them. I'm scared of snakes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>snakes and spiders, Like, no, I don't want spider legs

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<v Speaker 2>touching me. I don't want snake eyes looking at me

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<v Speaker 2>like bla Like anyway, what happens? Then? Oh, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a whole thing where Walking Phoenix is like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make Maximus fight like the most undefeated, decorated gladiator. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's when we get the tigers, and that whole scene

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<v Speaker 2>is very exciting, like and but of course Maximus wins

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<v Speaker 2>because again, duh, Maximus. Yeah, he's a fucking stud. It's

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<v Speaker 2>right in the name. He's He's max He's the Maximus.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the most He's the Maximum, and the crowd loves him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wounds the other gladiator, but and the crowd's

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<v Speaker 2>like kill kill because they're so gross, and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a big fuck you to Woking Phoenix. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>immediately the crowd's like Maximus the merciful, like he just

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he does, They're like, we love you, He's the

415
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:21.359
<v Speaker 2>he's the hairy styles of the Gladdie. We love you Harry,

416
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 2>like no matter what he does. And then Joaquin Phoenix,

417
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:29.319
<v Speaker 2>he's again such a piece of shit. He like goes

418
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:32.519
<v Speaker 2>down there and he's talking to Maximus and he says

419
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the most fucked up shit about his family to try

420
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:40.759
<v Speaker 2>to make him mad, like you know your wife, did

421
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 2>you know all the awful things they did to his

422
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>family basically, and Maximus doesn't take his bait, which makes

423
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 2>Joaquin Phoenix even more vexed, I'm sure because he purposely

424
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:54.440
<v Speaker 2>was trying to get a rise out of him, so

425
00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:58.799
<v Speaker 2>he could kill him and he doesn't take the bait. Uh,

426
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:04.839
<v Speaker 2>then what happens? Then what happens? Oh, like someone from

427
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Maximus's army is lingering around. He had like a like

428
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 2>a servant or something named Cicero who was hanging around,

429
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>and he shows up and he he wants to help

430
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Maximus like escape and like reunite with his army and

431
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>fight for the freedom of Rome and all of these things. Yeah,

432
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm all that stuff's fine.

433
00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it doesn't even like I'm kind of like,

434
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, that was a thing. It goes on for

435
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>so long. It's it's it's two and a half hours. Yeah.

436
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:44.400
<v Speaker 2>After a while, I'm like, okay, I get it. Can

437
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.839
<v Speaker 2>we just hit the high marks? Yes? Yeah, there's all

438
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:53.599
<v Speaker 2>this like back state like backroom dealing stuff that's going

439
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:58.079
<v Speaker 2>on that is not the stuff I remember about the movie.

440
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Like what I remember is, oh, he fought and they're

441
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 2>tigers and like all and you know how over the

442
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>top woaquin phoenixes and all that stuff. And then I'm

443
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 2>watching it this time and I was like, oh, yeah,

444
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>there's all this like political intrigue that's happening in it too,

445
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:17.839
<v Speaker 2>And multiple scenes of Joaquin Phoenix trying to get it

446
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 2>on with his sister, which is again super yucky. Yeah,

447
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 2>and threatening her son like reading him stories and like

448
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>holding him really close and telling her without telling her,

449
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:35.960
<v Speaker 2>like I'm fully gonna kill your kid if you don't

450
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>tell me everything that is happening. And at some point

451
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 2>there is like Joaquin Phoenix sends all of his men

452
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.119
<v Speaker 2>in and they just start fucking shit up. They kill

453
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:54.279
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of the gladiators, they kill Maximus' like

454
00:28:55.480 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 2>assistant guy, and threatens his sister and tells her like,

455
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>you're going to give me a pure blood air and

456
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>if you even look at me wrong, I'm going to

457
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 2>kill your kid. And that's when we get thats like, wow.

458
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>He's doing a thing. I gotta say, they're all I

459
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>like all the actors. There's nobody. I think they're all committed,

460
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.359
<v Speaker 1>and they're all treating it like it's real, and I

461
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 1>think that's what people respond to, Like that's the only

462
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.079
<v Speaker 1>way you can do it, is just treat it like

463
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:31.559
<v Speaker 1>it's real.

464
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly. And in gladiat Or two, it is Denzel

465
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Washington is the one that is like just chewing it

466
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 2>up and like the most entertaining way in a way

467
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>that we haven't seen Denzel Washington be in a really

468
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:49.920
<v Speaker 2>long time.

469
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I like this phase of Denzel Washington's me too. I

470
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>was giving all kinds of email. I don't Yeah, you

471
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 1>were sending me some stuff on TikTok and yeah he's

472
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 1>doing all kinds of interviews and he's just like, yeah,

473
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I was bitchy then, yeah, I took that too seriously.

474
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Now you just care about this or I you know.

475
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I like is like, that's how I want to be

476
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>when I'm his age.

477
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he he seems like he's out of Fox and

478
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 2>he's Yes, he's just having a good time. Yeah, he

479
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 2>raised his kids, he's in a good marriage. He's got

480
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:21.519
<v Speaker 2>his oscars.

481
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's got I think he's won Tony Awards.

482
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>He's done stage work, he's brilliant.

483
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's put in his time. He should enjoy it.

484
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 2>So good for him. That's what we all want. He's

485
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>a movie star. Such a movie star, he really is.

486
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing about the second one. Not to

487
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:41.599
<v Speaker 2>keep going back to a movie you haven't seen. I'm sorry,

488
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>but like, he is such a movie star. And I

489
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.519
<v Speaker 2>think Pedro Pescal is a movie star. I wasn't getting

490
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>it from Paul mets school in this and Gladiator too

491
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>likes as much as these two like. And I love

492
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Paul Meskal like, I think he's great and I have

493
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 2>loved him in other movies, but this was like a

494
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>really big blockbuster with a lot of like sets and

495
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 2>costumes and visual effects. And I'm like, he wasn't screaming

496
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>movie star to me in that movie, but I think

497
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>he He does a good job in the roll.

498
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know in a few months.

499
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go. So then there's a it all

500
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 2>comes down to this, like now Joaquin Phoenix is like,

501
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I am going to fight Maximus in the coliseum, Like

502
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>this is how I'm gonna win the people's love by

503
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>murdering their hero in front of them, apparently, But of course,

504
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.440
<v Speaker 2>because he's such a fucking coward, he like goes in

505
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>before the fight and like stat Russell Crowe and then

506
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 2>hides it with armor so that he's already wounded, yeah, wounded,

507
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and like on and he's gonna die no matter what

508
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>because of this asshole. But even though he has an injury,

509
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 2>he kicks his ass, and uh, it's pretty satisfying.

510
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 1>It's very satisfying, like snickers satisfied.

511
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>It really does. I was like, I will allow it.

512
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Like he is such a sniveling, shitty coward that when

513
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 2>he finally gets killed feels pretty good. I'm like, oh, yeah,

514
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:43.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm cool with that. I'll allow it. I'll allow it.

515
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's very sad because Maximus is dying,

516
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and but before he's dying, he asks for all these

517
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 2>political reforms, he asks for the Gladiators to be free,

518
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 2>he you know, and then he collapse and he has

519
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 2>this vision of the after life and he's running to

520
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>his wife and son, and it's very sweet and it's

521
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>what we all want the afterlife to be.

522
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, just a wheat field that I'm running.

523
00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, see our loved ones, but but sure,

524
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>wheat field.

525
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Well that's how it is with him, Like every five seconds,

526
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 1>he's like running his hand through.

527
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:29.200
<v Speaker 2>A wheat field. Right, Yeah, I get Well, maybe that's

528
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>where his passion lies, Margo. He really just wanted to be.

529
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>A friend to make bread.

530
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to I just want to eat bread.

531
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I would be a perfect wife to him, like I

532
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 2>just want to eat that bread. And uh, you know,

533
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 2>they carry his body out and he's a soldier of

534
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Rome and all of this stuff and yeah that's the end. Okay,

535
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:54.160
<v Speaker 2>there we go.

536
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's yeah, there's That's why it's like for two

537
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and a half hours. I'm like really because because there's

538
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's great. I mean, I will say this,

539
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 1>it's very entertaining. I was completely absorbed with it. I

540
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Mean sometimes I was like, this is the transitions were weird,

541
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Like I wonder, like was there a day like the

542
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 1>light the light got away from them or they ran

543
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.519
<v Speaker 1>out of time and so they had to insert this

544
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>here in order to go there. Because it's very choppy.

545
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>The transitions are really choppy sometimes, so I wonder if

546
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. But overall, I can see why.

547
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely see why people loved seeing this in a

548
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:35.679
<v Speaker 1>movie theater. I bet it was a hoot with like

549
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>a big audience.

550
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it feels like it's made for a

551
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 2>big screen. It's made for a big audience. It's it

552
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.159
<v Speaker 2>does it desert? Is it worthy of all the things?

553
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.360
<v Speaker 2>We're going to go through it? In like a second?

554
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>I did read that Antonio Benderis was considered at some

555
00:34:54.639 --> 00:35:00.119
<v Speaker 2>point for Spanish I Wonder and I'm like, I I

556
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>think Antonio Binderis would have been really good in this

557
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 2>absolutely no, that's my point, Like, yeah, yeah, I get

558
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>a Spaniard if you're going to like all the Spaniard

559
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>oh different things now we didn't.

560
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

561
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:15.079
<v Speaker 2>True. They also apparently considered Mel Gibson and I'm like,

562
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 2>he already did this with Brave Heart, like yeah. And

563
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 2>the other one was Tom Cruise because everyone considers Tom

564
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Cruise at some point, and uh, Jennifer Lopez reportedly auditioned

565
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 2>for Connie Nielsen's role. But I think Connie Nielsen's great,

566
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Like she's perfect.

567
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I really like her in this movie. I think she's

568
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:37.159
<v Speaker 1>really good. Yeah.

569
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:42.159
<v Speaker 2>And Joaquin Phoenix like immediately got the part. He sent

570
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>in an audition tape and they were like, that's the guy.

571
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>But apparently Jude Law also wanted the part. I'm like,

572
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.519
<v Speaker 2>which I can see. Yeah, he might be an actor.

573
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>He would have been good too.

574
00:35:53.719 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely. Uh So this movie was nominated for twelve Oscars.

575
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that baffles me. It was what else came

576
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.840
<v Speaker 2>out that year? Exactly? Yes, and it won five. I

577
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.800
<v Speaker 2>also want to tell you it was nominated for a

578
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:15.800
<v Speaker 2>bunch of MTV Movie Awards that I get. Yeah, but

579
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go through the Oscars. So it's nominated for

580
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Best Picture. It won. Uh, it was nominated against Oh sorry,

581
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>my little screen here went away. There we go, There

582
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you are other movies chuck a lot. Yeah, okay, Crouching Tiger,

583
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Hidden Dragon.

584
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>That's an excellent movie.

585
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I love Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Aaron Brockovich. That's a

586
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 2>good movie. It's a good movie. And then Traffic. No,

587
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>you don't like Traffic, No, I don't. I find it.

588
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I actually like the British one better. It's based on

589
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 1>a British series, and I thought that was a little more.

590
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fine. I just don't love it as

591
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 1>much as other people. That's it.

592
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I think, like a lot of people who saw Traffic,

593
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I really liked the Benicio del Toro stuff.

594
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah and.

595
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Hello yeah, And when I think about the movie, that

596
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 2>tends to be the part I think about and I don't.

597
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm like, oh, yeah, there was the whole

598
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:27.559
<v Speaker 2>thing with Michael Duns's.

599
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>And the pregnant Catherine Zeta Georges. Yeah, like driving around

600
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 1>looking for crack. Yeah.

601
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it was nominated for Best Director for Ridley Scott,

602
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 2>but he did not win the other ones where Steven

603
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Soderberg was nominated for Aaron Brockovic but he won for Traffic.

604
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:52.440
<v Speaker 2>He directed both of those. Yes, it's that bananas. Wow?

605
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>How did he have time?

606
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>I know? And then ang Lee also was nominated for

607
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, which he should have won for.

608
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 2>This would have been my That would have been my pick,

609
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>like Crouching Tiger, Hitten Dragon. And then Stephen Daldry for

610
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Billy Elliott, which is a good movie, which is a

611
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 2>good movie too. So Russell Crowe won for Best Actor

612
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 2>against who Javier Javier Bardem for Before Night Falls.

613
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I never seen that.

614
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I haven't either, Tom Hanks for Castaway he was great

615
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 2>and Castaway Yeah, Ed Harris for Pollock, Oh I hate

616
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that movie. Yeah. Marcia gay Harden won Best Supporting Actress

617
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.760
<v Speaker 2>for that, and I'm like, I love Marcia gay Harden but.

618
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 1>The long suffering wife to the genius.

619
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then Jeffrey Rush was nominated for Quills.

620
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh God, I remember, God, that's so two thousand. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Russell Crowe's win here is like a makeup

622
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<v Speaker 2>oscar because the year before he was nominated for The Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was really good not and he was

624
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>so good.

625
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>And I don't remember who won, but I mean Tom

626
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Hanks had already won twice I think by this point,

627
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.719
<v Speaker 2>so I don't think they were going to give him

628
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>another one. But he was so good in Castaway, and

629
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<v Speaker 2>we did a whole episode on Castaway. Joaquin Phoenix was

630
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>nominated for Gladiator, but he did not win. Benicio del

631
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Toro won for Traffic. Some of the other ones, you'll

632
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>love this one. Jeff Bridges for The Contender.

633
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I love that movie.

634
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>We did a whole episode on The Contender a long

635
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 2>time ago, so your first time on the show. I

636
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:44.199
<v Speaker 2>think it might have been. Yeah, that's when we realized

637
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that we need to get rid of the other person.

638
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>The show originally had a different co host, and then

639
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:56.519
<v Speaker 2>the minute Margo came on, both of us were like, oh,

640
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:03.559
<v Speaker 2>this is our show now bye by sorry Smith anyway.

641
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:09.639
<v Speaker 2>William Dafoe for Shadow of the Vampire. It's a good movie.

642
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 2>And then Albert Finney for Aaron Brockovic, which he was good. Yeah,

643
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:15.639
<v Speaker 2>he was good in that movie. Yeah, it was good

644
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 2>in that too, And then it was nominated for things

645
00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>like screenplay, but almost Famous One.

646
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay stop That screenplay was nominated for an oscar Yes, which,

647
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 1>by the way, in tons of interviews, Russell Crow's like

648
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>there was like thirty pages of a script and they

649
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>they had to like write it as.

650
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:37.880
<v Speaker 2>They were going along, and yeah in the like whole like,

651
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:42.679
<v Speaker 2>am I not Percival? Like that's ad libbed? Like I'm

652
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.559
<v Speaker 2>like it's bananas to me that it was nominated for

653
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 2>screenplay and it did not win because again like almost

654
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:55.440
<v Speaker 2>famous one, and that feels very appropriate because that's very

655
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>well written. Was there? It was, you know, And it

656
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 2>was nominated for other things like sound, Yeah, you know

657
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.440
<v Speaker 2>which that I get. Yeah, it won for sound. It

658
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't win for art direction because Crouching Tiger won. It

659
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>was nominated nominated for cinematography, but Crouching Tiger won that

660
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 2>as well, very well deserved. It won for Best Costume

661
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Design and it lost for film Editing, and it won

662
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.199
<v Speaker 2>for visual effects.

663
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.639
<v Speaker 1>So with the tiger scene alone, it deserves it.

664
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The other things for visual effects were hollow Man,

665
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 2>did you ever see that? And then the Perfect.

666
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Storm that is that could have been That should have

667
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:47.159
<v Speaker 1>been such a great movie because it has everything that

668
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 1>story has everything and it just doesn't add up for

669
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>some reason.

670
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>We should talk about that movie something.

671
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because and I've seen it a dozen times at least. Yeah,

672
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, how did they fuck this up? That's

673
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:03.599
<v Speaker 1>always the way what I want that, which is not

674
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the way you should do it.

675
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Do you want to hear some of the MTV

676
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Movie Awards stuff? Sure, Okay, why not? Let me go

677
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:17.320
<v Speaker 2>down here. So it won for Best Movie. The other

678
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:25.880
<v Speaker 2>best movies, though, were Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Aaron Brockovic, Hannibal, Hannibal, Hannibal,

679
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:29.719
<v Speaker 2>and The X Men movie, which was the very first

680
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>like which I've ever seen. Yeah, one of those, like

681
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 2>one of the first like comic book movies to come

682
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 2>out in a really long time. But I love the

683
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:44.719
<v Speaker 2>MTV nominated Aaron Brokovich. That seems like.

684
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Well Julia Roberts, Yeah, like she was having a year

685
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 1>when that movie came out.

686
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was nominated for Best Action Sequence, but it

687
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 2>did not win. It lost to a motorcycle chase from

688
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Mission Impossible Too, which is come on, yeah, I mean

689
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 2>it's Mission Impossible too. Russell Crowe did not win Best

690
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Male Performance because he lost to Tom Cruise for Mission

691
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Impossible too. Let's see other things. It was nominated do

692
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.880
<v Speaker 2>do do? I know there's one here you're gonna love.

693
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

694
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.760
<v Speaker 2>There was a best Fight and it was Russell Crowe

695
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 2>and the Tigers, but he did not win because the

696
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon where she totally destroys an entire bar.

697
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 2>That one, yeah, that's the best. And then there was

698
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 2>It was nominated for Best Line for it vexes me.

699
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:49.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm terribly vexed. It did not win because it lost

700
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 2>to my favorite movie, Meet the Parents, where it says

701
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 2>are you a pothead? Fucker?

702
00:43:59.360 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

703
00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Everyone one remembers that line, So I hate the I

704
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 2>hate it. Oh. Also, Joaquin Phoenix was nominated for Best Villain,

705
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.079
<v Speaker 2>but he lost to Jim Carrey for The Grinch.

706
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Are you fucking kidding me?

707
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:21.599
<v Speaker 2>I am not fucking kidding you.

708
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh that Grinch movie is terrible.

709
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 2>I do eat. I hate it.

710
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 1>It's so ugly, yes, and just ugly ugly like and

711
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's shot with like broken light bulbs.

712
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 2>It's so dark.

713
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I hate it. I hate that movie.

714
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 2>This is why you and I had to do the

715
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>show together. Younger people love that version.

716
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have it. They didn't grow up with the

717
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 1>other one, which, yeah, the animated one so and which

718
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>is superb.

719
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>And so that's why I think there was.

720
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jim Carrey did a Yeah, that one annoys me,

721
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>but he did do a Scrooge one of the Scrooge movies.

722
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Christmas Carol Wich. I thought was pretty good. Yeah, yeah,

723
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I really don't like it. And thankfully the younger generation

724
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 2>out so like my thirteen year old, he has no

725
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:21.519
<v Speaker 2>interest in the live action Grinch, and he watches the

726
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>original animated Grinch, and he watches the more recent animated

727
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Grinch that came out in twenty seventeen, which is actually

728
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:30.159
<v Speaker 2>really good.

729
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people tell me that.

730
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I watched it with him and I was like, oh,

731
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>this is actually really delightful and fun and has a

732
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 2>really good message. It's not mean, it's not dark. It's

733
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:49.079
<v Speaker 2>very very good. So I recommend that one. And that's it.

734
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>That's it for that, all right.

735
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to hear about the top ten songs

736
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>for when this came out.

737
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to know any of these.

738
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I I okay, some of them are.

739
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:02.119
<v Speaker 2>So it starts number ten Sonic Sonic s.

740
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<v Speaker 1>O N I Que it feels so good. Nope, lone

741
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Star Amazed.

742
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I do know this one.

743
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Number eight Vertical Horizon Everything you Want. Okay, that's

744
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>stupid song.

745
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I do know that one. That one is still

746
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 2>played all the time on all the like SiriusXM Pop

747
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:26.639
<v Speaker 2>Rocks channel.

748
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>You can't get away from it. Number seven somebody I

749
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>thought would be bigger, Macy Gray.

750
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I try, Yeah, I agree. She Oh here, I'm gonna

751
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:42.000
<v Speaker 2>admit something that everyone's gonna make fun of me for

752
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I loved the Dave Matthews Band and saw the Dave

753
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Matthews Band like a gazillion times back in the day,

754
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and Macy Gray opened for them, and she was so

755
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.000
<v Speaker 2>good and so fun and funky, and I was like,

756
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 2>she's gonna be huge.

757
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.599
<v Speaker 1>And then where, yeah, where'd she go?

758
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Here we go?

759
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Number six in sync Bye Bye Bye, which is a

760
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:09.599
<v Speaker 1>really good song. I'm sorry, that's a bop and that

761
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.639
<v Speaker 1>video is great. Number that was Number six sorry. Number

762
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>five Destiny's Child Say My Name.

763
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 2>That's a good one too. I know more than I thought.

764
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Number four Cisco the Thong song.

765
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Well you couldn't get away, We coudn't escape that.

766
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 1>There's another one you couldn't escape from. Number three Faith

767
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Hill with Breathe.

768
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that was. It's a slow song, yeah.

769
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Very slow song. Number two Tony Braxton, He wasn't man enough.

770
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I love Tony Braxton. I don't remember that song, but

771
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

772
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Remember that song either.

773
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

774
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And number one Santana Maria Maria.

775
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Thank god you didn't say smooth.

776
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 1>We hate smooth. We hate the song smooth.

777
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Well. I don't like Marie Maria either, but I would

778
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:09.000
<v Speaker 2>take it over smooth, fucking smooth. Now it's gonna show

779
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 2>up on my radio, like every time it comes up

780
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:14.840
<v Speaker 2>on the show. I get in my car, turn it on,

781
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 2>and fucking smooth comes on. I swear to god, my friend,

782
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 2>what else are you jarky out about? I am really

783
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:24.960
<v Speaker 2>enjoying Netflix.

784
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Cobra Kai is back.

785
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you've been faithful, you've been watching I'm very faithful.

786
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's been a fun distraction. I I'm loving

787
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Shrinking on Apple Plus.

788
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, such a good show, the best, the best.

789
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I love Shrinking so much.

790
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:52.639
<v Speaker 1>On Peacock I saw I started watching Making Manson and

791
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>then I had to stop because yeah, they attempt to

792
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 1>humanize him more, which he does.

793
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.840
<v Speaker 2>It need no, thank you. Yeah.

794
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is like, don't you feel sad he

795
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 1>had this really sad upbringing, Like yeah, millions of people do.

796
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 1>He's a shit He's a shithead, like yeah. So then

797
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I was mad at myself, like why am I watching this?

798
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I knew this is gonna happen. So then I went

799
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 1>back to my real housewife. So Beverly Hills this week premiered.

800
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 2>It was great.

801
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>It's worth if you put the ten twelve years into.

802
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 2>It delivered, just could you just pick it up this No,

803
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 2>you would be like you would miss stuff you would miss.

804
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe you'd think it was fun.

805
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's not. It's very stylized. If you like selling.

806
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Sunset, Yeah, it's kind of looking like that these days.

807
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:49.679
<v Speaker 1>But you're not going to understand the little things that happen,

808
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's a shame. But Yeah, Dorey who was

809
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:56.039
<v Speaker 1>going to get fired was everyone's been talking about she

810
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 1>needs to get fired, like a couple of years ago,

811
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and she split with her husband and she's just decided

812
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 1>everything's burning around me, Like she's going to get her

813
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>house foreclosed on, like that's what's happening right now.

814
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.119
<v Speaker 2>She's just she's getting divorced from her husband.

815
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Turns out she keeps saying he's an alcoholic, like they

816
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:19.280
<v Speaker 1>never mentioned it for years, and so she's anyway. So

817
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it was really fun. It was a good distraction. And

818
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 1>then of course SLC so.

819
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 2>We say this every week. It's the best.

820
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 1>It's the best show. These women are insane, they're batshit crazy. Yes,

821
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>they take no accountability for their behavior.

822
00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 2>They are so fucking petty too, like Jeddy and immature. Yes,

823
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>so good. It's so great.

824
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 1>And they're all like in their forties and fifties, but

825
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>they might as well be like fifteen.

826
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, you're too old to be acting this way.

827
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Like they just they're so shitty. They just hold grudges,

828
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 2>they take no accountability. So petty, so good, but it's

829
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 2>so great.

830
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>So the woman that named Mary, she runs a religion

831
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>in Salt Lake City. That's that's not Mormon. Yes, And

832
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>she inherited, Yeah, she inherited from her grandmother and her

833
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 1>grandmother and her mother didn't get along and Mary didn't

834
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:26.280
<v Speaker 1>get along with her mother. So when her grandmother died,

835
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 1>Mary married her step grandfather, in order to inherit the

836
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.679
<v Speaker 1>church and all of the businesses attached to the church.

837
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 2>One of the funniest things from season one was like

838
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 2>it had to be like Jenshaw was like, yes, let's

839
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:50.199
<v Speaker 2>all take advice from the lady who married her own grandpa.

840
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>And she was so offended that she had a conversation

841
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.760
<v Speaker 1>with this idiot woman named Brittany, who's who's like on

842
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.039
<v Speaker 1>the Tinder apps like dating all the but apparently the

843
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Mormons they're not supposed to they say, Look, they say

844
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>they're not supposed to drink and they're not supposed to

845
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 1>have sex unless they're married. Yeah, and these women are

846
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:09.639
<v Speaker 1>not following those rules.

847
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Literally they pick and choose which one of the which

848
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:19.239
<v Speaker 2>of the things they want to obey, and then right, yeah.

849
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:22.360
<v Speaker 1>And when Mary first met Brittany, who's dating a third

850
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.719
<v Speaker 1>tier Osmond by the way, that they're all like, woo,

851
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 1>third tier you're generous society of being generous there, but

852
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 1>they were. When they first met each other, Mary said, oh,

853
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, there was five kids.

854
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:35.519
<v Speaker 2>We never had enough of anything. We did have food,

855
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:36.199
<v Speaker 2>and so.

856
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Brittany said, oh, I grew up poor too. I know

857
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that it feels and Mary was so offended, like we.

858
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:45.599
<v Speaker 2>We're not poor, we just ended just neglected. Yeah, So

859
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Mary decides to run a breakfast at Tiffany's party in

860
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:55.000
<v Speaker 2>her home to prove that she's not or it seems

861
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:58.559
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of going to great lengths to prove

862
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Brittany wrong. But so she invites everyone and they're all

863
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.559
<v Speaker 2>supposed to dress up, and like, some of them do

864
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and some of them don't, and like Mary's breakfast Activity's party.

865
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 1>So she's like, I want you to do your style,

866
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:16.840
<v Speaker 1>be your stylish best, be a stili on.

867
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.599
<v Speaker 2>So if it's breakfast activities, it's what is it?

868
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:24.559
<v Speaker 1>It's Audrey Hepper little back dress, you know, up due simple,

869
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:26.360
<v Speaker 1>it's simple but but classy.

870
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 2>So Bronwin shows up first. Beautiful, Yeah, she's beautiful, Like

871
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.880
<v Speaker 2>looks great. Yeah, she's got a little clip on bangs

872
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to like right, do the like party, Yeah, do the

873
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.880
<v Speaker 2>little Audrey hepburn like short bangs. She looks lovely, she

874
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:44.280
<v Speaker 2>looks so cute.

875
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And she's like me, she showed up too early, and

876
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 1>so she's awkwardly standing around, which I've done.

877
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.159
<v Speaker 2>She showed up right on time because she was afraid

878
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:56.639
<v Speaker 2>of Mary, and like even Mary's not down there.

879
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.559
<v Speaker 1>She has to make and it's odd is that, like

880
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>those are parishioners that she's recruited to be.

881
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Her waiters and staff. But then Meredith shows up, and

882
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Meredith is.

883
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:14.920
<v Speaker 1>She puts a wig on her head and it looks

884
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 1>like it's put on backwards to provide a bang effect,

885
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:20.880
<v Speaker 1>but it looks like she's wearing a two pay backwards.

886
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 2>It's the bang starring. The bangs look like Russell Crow's

887
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Caesar cut in Yeah, Laddie, Like it's all pc and

888
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:35.360
<v Speaker 2>weird and like it just looks bad, and like all

889
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 2>of the women are like shit talking her by her

890
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.159
<v Speaker 2>back about these fucking bangs. She butught she thinks she

891
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:44.480
<v Speaker 2>looks great. Yeah.

892
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's so proud of herself. And then just throughout this,

893
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, there is a whole thing where Bron wented

894
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and Heather didn't get along with it. Don't get along,

895
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and Heather's like an og. So Heather hates everybody that's

896
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>not an og. That's her whole personality. So she's roo

897
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 1>to bron Wyn. So Bron and her husband are having

898
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 1>their tenth anniversary in Palm Springs and she's like, we're

899
00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:08.039
<v Speaker 1>going to invite people to come and celebrate with us,

900
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and she didn't bring the other because either was an asshole.

901
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why would you to her? Why do you want

902
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 2>to invite someone?

903
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Her?

904
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Or Brittany by the way, who are have been so shitty,

905
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.760
<v Speaker 2>rude and right just like you know, well, why don't

906
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:24.920
<v Speaker 2>you have a prenup? It's because you're a gold digger,

907
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. Why would they invite Why would she invite

908
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:29.280
<v Speaker 2>you to her anniversary party?

909
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 1>First of all, it's exactly it's not.

910
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Your business if she has a prenup or not mind

911
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 2>your business. Heather and Brittany and two like you both

912
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 2>acted like a couple of cunts. Of course she's not

913
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 2>going to invite you and the like.

914
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they tried to like goadly, you didn't invite us,

915
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Well why didn't you? And she says to Bron when

916
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:54.039
<v Speaker 1>bron Win said, I wanted to bring you, And for

917
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:57.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, Bron and her husband flew everybody private there

918
00:55:58.079 --> 00:55:59.559
<v Speaker 1>and then when they flew them back, it was on

919
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:03.599
<v Speaker 1>commercial and that was a power move on her part. Yes,

920
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>so she and her husband were in first class and

921
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the rest was coach. Now, Palm Springs to Salt Lake

922
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.119
<v Speaker 1>City is an hour flight. It is not a big deal.

923
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like flying to San Francisco from LA or something.

924
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:16.320
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter where you sit, you know, it's an

925
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:16.800
<v Speaker 1>hour flight.

926
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 2>You'll be done.

927
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.039
<v Speaker 1>But of course Lisa had a meltdown about it, and

928
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 1>so then Heather's trying to weaponize that, like how come

929
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 1>you put them and coach and you got the first

930
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 1>class seat?

931
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:27.960
<v Speaker 2>She says, because it was my goddamn credit card.

932
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just shut them the fuck up.

933
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's my fucking money. Fuck you.

934
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were rude, you were mean, you said shitty things,

935
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of had to deal with it. So

936
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:40.880
<v Speaker 1>then they had a moment where Heather's like, you know what,

937
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 1>let's try to move forward, like okay, okay, and then

938
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Brittany just shoots up and says and Nobody's like, no

939
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:54.159
<v Speaker 1>one knows you, no one likes you. All you do

940
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 1>is talk about men that you talk about him like

941
00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you're twelve years old.

942
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you and it's just I'm sorry. It's so great.

943
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:02.880
<v Speaker 1>It was so good.

944
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:06.920
<v Speaker 2>It's so good, Like we could do entire episodes just

945
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:12.400
<v Speaker 2>about Salt Lake City, Like these these brods are crazy.

946
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.639
<v Speaker 1>They're amazing. And then lastly, there's a podcast that I've

947
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:19.400
<v Speaker 1>been listening to that's really good. It's called Radioactive and

948
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:25.440
<v Speaker 1>it's all about Karen Silkwood. We've talked about Silkwood, but

949
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:30.159
<v Speaker 1>it's an investigation into her death and what really happened.

950
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.840
<v Speaker 1>It's shocking, like it's been fifty years and people still

951
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know what really happened to her. She was in

952
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.719
<v Speaker 1>a car accident. She's a whistleblower at a nuclear power plant,

953
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 1>which is also something that's you know, fifty years later,

954
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Like she was talking about regulations and how important it

955
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 1>is to watch these industries to make sure they don't

956
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>poison the water or kill their employees. You know, like

957
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:56.039
<v Speaker 1>shit we're dealing with now. She was treated like she

958
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:57.519
<v Speaker 1>was a pain in the ass because she's a woman,

959
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and she was of course was from you know, she

960
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:03.480
<v Speaker 1>was a single mother, she didn't have custody of her kids.

961
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:05.199
<v Speaker 1>People just thought she was kind of trashy and they

962
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't And when you listen to this podcast and this

963
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Silkwood was the movie directed by Mike Nichols and it

964
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:14.039
<v Speaker 1>stars Mellow Streep Share and Kurt Russell, and it's been

965
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.199
<v Speaker 1>in a rights issues for many many years and it's

966
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:20.079
<v Speaker 1>finally available for streaming on Hulu.

967
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 2>And we're definitely going to cover it. It's oh yeah, yeah,

968
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:24.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe I watched it last week.

969
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 1>It was really good. So then I found this podcast

970
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's basically the Investigators. They are going back fifty

971
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:33.800
<v Speaker 1>years to the original reports and to try to figure

972
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:36.480
<v Speaker 1>out like how this woman died because they said, oh, well,

973
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:39.159
<v Speaker 1>she fell asleep at the wheel and boom she crashed.

974
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:42.280
<v Speaker 1>And then when you look they described the crash seed

975
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like she was dragged like one hundred and fifty

976
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:48.239
<v Speaker 1>yards was it was? It like she just hit a

977
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>barrier in boom And so when you look at you're like,

978
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:51.199
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck happened to this woman?

979
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, that's what I'm listening to. Well, that's a

980
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>good one. I'm writing that one down. I have a

981
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of things too. I started last night Interior or Chinatown,

982
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:07.079
<v Speaker 2>which is a new show on Netflix that's really really

983
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 2>good with it stars Jimmy O Yang and Ronnie Chang

984
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:15.320
<v Speaker 2>from the Daily Show. He hosts The Daily Show once

985
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:22.920
<v Speaker 2>a week and it's it's set in like a crime drama,

986
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:27.519
<v Speaker 2>like a law and order type thing, and he is

987
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:33.119
<v Speaker 2>like a background character in like a crime drama who's

988
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:38.880
<v Speaker 2>working with like another detective to become like a main

989
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:42.679
<v Speaker 2>character on the show and solve a murder. It is

990
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:50.480
<v Speaker 2>very weird, an action comedy, very funny. I've only watched

991
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the first two episodes. I like where it's going, so

992
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keep Goings based on a graphic novel that

993
00:59:56.239 --> 01:00:00.320
<v Speaker 2>apparently is pretty popular. So Hulu did not promote this

994
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:03.920
<v Speaker 2>at all. I just like heard some good things on

995
01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:06.119
<v Speaker 2>TikTok and Blue Sky and was like, I'm going to

996
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:08.960
<v Speaker 2>check it out, and it's really good. I'm enjoying it

997
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:14.480
<v Speaker 2>so far, so I recommend Interior Chinatown. And what else

998
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 2>am I watching? Oh? I saw Wicked. This movie called Wicked. Yeah,

999
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I've heard about it. Yeah, I saw that. I have

1000
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 2>never seen the stage show, which apparently is a bananas

1001
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:28.719
<v Speaker 2>thing to say when you live in San Francisco because

1002
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:33.639
<v Speaker 2>it like opened here and people are very precious about

1003
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Wicked and the fact that the you know saw it

1004
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:42.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's many many runs here. I have never seen it.

1005
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I know like two songs.

1006
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen it either. I tried reading the book

1007
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.679
<v Speaker 1>in like two different book groups and could not get

1008
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:50.199
<v Speaker 1>into it.

1009
01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh, interesting.

1010
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:56.360
<v Speaker 1>But I heard that the play is pretty different from

1011
01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:58.199
<v Speaker 1>the book, the original novel.

1012
01:00:59.519 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1013
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I just for some reason, some of them, I just

1014
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:05.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, they get expensive, it's hard to get a ticket,

1015
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and then like, yeah, it'll be made into a movie

1016
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:09.280
<v Speaker 1>one day, So here we.

1017
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Are and here you are. I really I liked here's

1018
01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:14.760
<v Speaker 2>another one. I'm like, it's like two and a half

1019
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:19.199
<v Speaker 2>hours long. So if like musicals, you're like, hmm, then

1020
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is where you want to start.

1021
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:26.320
<v Speaker 2>But I liked it. I thought the performances were really good.

1022
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they have amazing singing voices. I love the

1023
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:34.719
<v Speaker 2>sets and the costume. I love musicals, so I'm very

1024
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:40.960
<v Speaker 2>entertained by that. The movie was surprisingly sad in some

1025
01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:43.960
<v Speaker 2>spots that I was I didn't know that's where it

1026
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:51.360
<v Speaker 2>was going. Other people in the audience are like super

1027
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:55.719
<v Speaker 2>fans and they know all the songs and they loved it,

1028
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and they were telling me afterwards like it could go

1029
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.320
<v Speaker 2>on forever and I would be so happy, and like

1030
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:04.000
<v Speaker 2>they loved being in the world, and they really really

1031
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:09.119
<v Speaker 2>loved it for me, like two of the songs were

1032
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:12.920
<v Speaker 2>catchy and the rest I don't remember. Already and hasn't

1033
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:19.199
<v Speaker 2>even been a week, so it's and it's a part one,

1034
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.920
<v Speaker 2>which again it's quite long, so I'm curious what part

1035
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.760
<v Speaker 2>two is going to be. Like, I still I really

1036
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.079
<v Speaker 2>liked it. I thought it was good, and I know

1037
01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 2>that it's insanely popular and it's bringing a bunch of

1038
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:33.840
<v Speaker 2>people into the theater because I went to see another

1039
01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:36.440
<v Speaker 2>movie I'm going to talk about in a second, and

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<v Speaker 2>Wicked was playing in the big theater and it was

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<v Speaker 2>packed three hundred and fifty people on a Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 2>So pretty good. Yeah, no, good for them, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>they and they it was a lot of younger people

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<v Speaker 2>and they were really excited and they were taking pictures

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01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.039
<v Speaker 2>and the standis and the posters, and I was like,

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01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I love that. Anything that makes people excited to go

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01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:01.639
<v Speaker 2>to the movies makes me happy. So it's again another

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<v Speaker 2>one that considering everything that's happening in the world. You

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01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:09.039
<v Speaker 2>can't see me, but I'm waving my arms around. There's

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01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:13.360
<v Speaker 2>definitely things that you will react to in the movie

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01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that you're like, well, that feels appropriate, and in one

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01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 2>way or another, it's a good one. And then I

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01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:26.920
<v Speaker 2>will end it with I saw a real pain with

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse Eisenberg and Karen Colkin and it and Jennifer Gray,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it by the way, Like it took me in

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<v Speaker 2>really yes, And I was like, wait a second, I

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<v Speaker 2>read her book, Oh did you like her book?

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<v Speaker 1>Something? It was okay, it was it was it was good,

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01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:48.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, something about baby in the corner, something about

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01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:50.519
<v Speaker 1>being in the corner because obviously that line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, yeah, she got a nose job in

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01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 2>the nineties and it made her pretty unrecognizable. So it

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<v Speaker 2>took me a little while. And then I was like,

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01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:05.280
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, it's Jennifer gre took me a minute. But

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01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.239
<v Speaker 2>it's really about kieren Co. It's written and directed by

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01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Jesse Eisenberg, who was in like The Social Network, and

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<v Speaker 2>Karen kolkaan everyone knows who that is. And they play

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<v Speaker 2>cousins who are going to poland their grandmother has their

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01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:23.719
<v Speaker 2>their Jewish grandmother has passed away, and they are going

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<v Speaker 2>on this pilgrimage to learn more about what it was

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<v Speaker 2>like for her when she's growing up and like visit

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<v Speaker 2>the house she grew up in and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and they join like a tour group and then they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of separate from the tour group and do their thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a lot about like their relationship, about you know,

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01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:50.800
<v Speaker 2>difficult family members. You grow up with people and then

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of drift apart and trying to stay connected

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<v Speaker 2>to It's very sweet and funny and sad, all of

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01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:04.480
<v Speaker 2>those things. And it's like this like small, quiet, little

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01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 2>movie that was such a pleasure to watch. And I

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01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:09.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can't even believe it's playing in a

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01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:18.360
<v Speaker 2>theater because it's not Wicked. It's not Gladiator too. It's

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01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:23.119
<v Speaker 2>small and quiet and sweet and something that you would

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<v Speaker 2>have seen in the nineties during like the indie movement,

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01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:30.280
<v Speaker 2>the indie film movement, I feel. And they're both really

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<v Speaker 2>good in it, and I really loved Kiaran Kulkin in it.

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<v Speaker 2>He is could get nominated for stuff. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>really really great. And now I think I'm finally ready

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01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.960
<v Speaker 2>to watch Succession, so maybe I'll do that. Did you

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01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:45.679
<v Speaker 2>watch Succession? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Was he good at Everyone says he's great in it,

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01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:52.360
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, of course. Yeah. Like I'm like, okay, fine,

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01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll watch six Session now that it's over and nobody

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01:05:55.760 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 2>cares anymore. But uh, that's a pretty good list. We've

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<v Speaker 2>given people here, I think if you like the sound

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01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:07.679
<v Speaker 2>of our voices. We also co host a podcast called

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<v Speaker 2>What a Creep, where we talk about creeps of the

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<v Speaker 2>past and the present. Our episode out Right Now is

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01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:16.239
<v Speaker 2>about some asshole named Ken Star you might remember him

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01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:19.679
<v Speaker 2>from The Star Report, Yeah, and just being a real

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01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:23.199
<v Speaker 2>piece of shit, So enjoy that episode. But we always

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<v Speaker 2>end the episode with someone who's not a creep, so

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01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't think the whole world is a dumpster fire.

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01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:32.840
<v Speaker 2>And Margo picked an excellent non creep for that because

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01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 2>she's really good at this. Ah speaking of really good

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<v Speaker 2>at this. Where can people find you on the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can find me at Brooklynfitchick dot com. I'm at Brooklynfitchick

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01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:47.519
<v Speaker 1>for threads and Instagram, and then I'm at Brooklyn Margo

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01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:51.519
<v Speaker 1>on blue Sky and TikTok, and then I'm at my

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01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:53.920
<v Speaker 1>name for YouTube. Margo Donahue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, follow her on YouTube. She's always sharing cool clips

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01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:00.320
<v Speaker 2>and she's going to be promoting her book soon. No

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01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:04.440
<v Speaker 2>big deal, no big deal, just a book that she wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of way next year, so I'll try not

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01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to bombar y'all with it until it's time.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get ready, please bombard me. You can find

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<v Speaker 2>me at the Sonya Show dot com and the Sonya

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<v Speaker 2>Show on Twitter. Sorry, oh my god, that was habit.

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01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:26.239
<v Speaker 2>You can't find me on Twitter. I'm not on Twitter anymore.

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01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 2>You can find me on Blue Sky and threads and

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01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Instagram and Facebook and the TikTok. And you can find

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<v Speaker 2>dorking Out at dorkinoutshow dot com or just dorkinout dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I found out that I bought both,

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01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:48.719
<v Speaker 2>and you can also find dorking Out on threads and

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01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Blue Sky and Instagram and Facebook as well. Thanks for

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01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:56.639
<v Speaker 2>talking about Gladiator with me. This was really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not vexed, but you're very merciful.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I not merciful? Margo