WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:02.839 And I will wish our guy, Chris Comradnie a very 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:03.919 happy Wednesday. Ck. 3 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:06.879 How are you, buddy on barefoot on a carpet? It 4 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.160 couldn't be better. How are you. 5 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:11.800 Barefoot on a carpet? Well, I am on a carpet. 6 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:14.279 I am not barefoot. I am at the Utah Red 7 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:17.760 Zone store, at the campus store University of Utah. But 8 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:20.480 I'm older than you are. When I was here at school, 9 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:23.120 we called this the bookstore. What did you guys? Bookstore? 10 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:24.359 We called it the bookstore. 11 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:28.399 Funny story, Once upon a time I was asked to 12 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:33.119 be on the cover of a brochure, you know, because 13 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.119 when you think of University of Utah, you think of, 14 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:38.880 you know, people who look like me. So I think 15 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:41.560 it was nine Spring of nine. I can't remember what 16 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.799 the brochure was exactly, but it was on some racks 17 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:48.799 in the old bookstore. So if anybody has a copy 18 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:52.640 of some obscure University of Utah specific student magazine from 19 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:55.600 sixteen seventeen years ago, hit me up. 20 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:58.960 Now, that's all I want to see. I'm sure I 21 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:00.920 do not have that, but maybe we can track it 22 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:06.480 out at some point. One more Utah student experience question 23 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:10.120 related question based off of us being here on campus today, 24 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:14.920 had a little PTSD rolling in because the parking situation 25 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:18.560 continues to be very similar to what it was when 26 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:21.359 I was a student. We had this running line my 27 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:24.599 friends and I where oftentimes somebody would leave to go 28 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:27.400 to class, then suddenly ten minutes later they're back at 29 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:29.239 the house and he'd say, wait, did you go to class? 30 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:31.120 And they said, well, I've wanted to, but I couldn't 31 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:34.280 find a place to park. It feels like there's like 32 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:38.280 a collusion involved, like a racket somewhere, where they simply 33 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:41.680 do not want you to be able to park. Even 34 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.519 if you pay for the top end pass, you are ticketed, 35 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:48.200 and this revenue has to fund something serious because it 36 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:52.280 continues to be like the biggest roadblock between students and 37 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.079 diploma is the inability to park at the University of Utah. 38 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:56.640 Did you experience the same thing. 39 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.400 I did, which is why my last year and a 40 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.239 half I started taking the bus smart And when you 41 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.439 were a student back in the day, you would get 42 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:06.799 a free UTA pass. I don't know if that's still 43 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:11.240 the case, but living in the abs, living by the capitol, 44 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.120 straight shot, I can't remember the name of my bus, 45 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.199 but I loved it dropped me off right by the 46 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:17.759 by the Hyper. 47 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:19.759 I don't know if the Hyper still exists anymore. I 48 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:21.960 think it was. It was a once upon a time. 49 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.400 It was like considered to be the most dangerous building 50 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.319 on campus because if like there was a short premer 51 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.120 that's supposed to hit this place anytime soon, that it 52 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:31.639 would basically crumble to pieces. 53 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:33.360 So that was my stop. 54 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:37.639 And yes, like once upon a time, I decided that 55 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:40.479 it was no longer feasible for me to drive my 56 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:43.240 beat up old Subaru to try to find a parking 57 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:45.039 spot at the University of Utah. But it's not as 58 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:49.800 bad as I will say in terms of availability, Utah's bad. 59 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.199 But my friends, and I'm sure you have friends as well, 60 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.360 My BYU friends have told me horror stories about being 61 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:02.080 ticketed on campus around the apartment buildings down there, Like 62 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:05.639 horror stories that like maybe we're out of their car 63 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:09.960 for three minutes and they got got so granted. This 64 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.240 is I'm not, you know, doing the Holy word thing 65 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.800 when it comes to parking places on the drive. 66 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.360 But both places have problems. 67 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.120 I'll say that, okay, equal time, equal time, And if 68 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.400 you're just tuning in Ck has now created a beef 69 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:26.000 between BYU and Utah students and who has a worst 70 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:29.319 parking situation? So chime in on that, all right, Ck, 71 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.680 You are a truth teller, and more often than not, 72 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:36.319 I will begrudgingly admit that you're typically right on a 73 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:41.159 scale of the unknowns on Utah football on one side, 74 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:44.759 and podcast people that are already talking about Devin dan 75 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.439 pier is potentially winning a Heisman on the other side, 76 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:52.240 Where are you with your belief that this quarterback will 77 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.199 deliver the things he needs to deliver to make Utah 78 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:56.840 contender in the Big twelve this year? 79 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.039 Well, he has one thing going form that he's never 80 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.759 had and maybe never will again, as it's one of 81 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:06.919 the best offensive lines in the country watching its back. 82 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:11.280 They return all five starters, a couple bookend tackles that are. 83 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:12.639 Likely to be first round picks. 84 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.079 Obviously, everybody knows about Spencer Fano being projected potentially as 85 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:19.160 a top ten, top five pick. That helps, and it 86 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:24.480 helps having some talented, albeit unknown running backs behind you. 87 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:27.839 This is going to be a work in progress. 88 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:28.000 Man. 89 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:29.959 I'm going to say this again and again. 90 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.199 But it really really expedites the process for Jason Beck 91 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.920 and his offense because of the personnel they have up 92 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:38.000 front with the big guys. 93 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.399 Other than that, like, are. 94 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:44.399 People going to believe that because Wayshaun Parker had a 95 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.240 decent freshman year at Wazoo while Wazuo was playing kind 96 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:52.240 of it's fake CW schedule last year. Like is he 97 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:56.199 going to turn into the thousand yard fifteen hundred yard 98 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:58.639 back that Utah was used to having for a decade. 99 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:00.519 If you want to be an O to miss, you 100 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:03.560 can believe that. But you know, conversely, Kyle Whittingham came 101 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:06.399 out last week or this week and said there's kind 102 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:08.759 of not a definitive pecking order at the running back 103 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.759 position right now. So and we haven't really even gotten 104 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.040 to the wide receivers yet. I know, you know, Kyle 105 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:17.160 talks about they got their travel guys, Well, they've had 106 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:20.040 travel guys for a very long time, and too often 107 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:22.920 their travel guys don't necessarily translate to guys who show 108 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.839 up on game days. Whether that's quarterback play, whether that's 109 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:28.839 play calling, whether that's individual skill, you know, all of 110 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:33.920 that is up for debate. Devin Dampierre is a talented player. 111 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:38.079 You've seen his highlight packages but again, I'm going to 112 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:42.959 proceed with caution and say, like, he accounted for a 113 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:45.920 bleep ton of touchdowns and he looks really fun when 114 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:48.399 you watch his highlight reel, but he still threw for 115 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.560 twelve touchdowns and twelve interceptions on a bad New Mexico 116 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:55.360 team last year. Granted, rising tides lift all ships or 117 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.360 boats or whatever. I get that idiom, but like, the 118 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.680 reality is is he's going to have to be a 119 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.759 lot better if Utah is going to be in contention 120 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:05.839 for the Big Twelve this year, because I'm fascinated to 121 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:07.639 see how the learning curve is, because I think it 122 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:10.000 might be a little steper than some folks around her belief. 123 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.480 Yeah, and I tend to agree with you, and I 124 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:16.000 don't know. I try not to only have shills on 125 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:18.680 my show. When Homer's on my show, I don't enjoy 126 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:23.319 those conversations because there's no authenticity authenticity, and I just 127 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:25.800 end up rolling my eyes more often than not. But 128 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:31.360 I haven't heard very many people discussed this kind of 129 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:35.040 trepidation that you're outlining. And then I tend to agree 130 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.720 with when it comes to Devon himself, And there are 131 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:40.759 plenty of examples, you know, cam Ward is the most 132 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:45.120 recent example of quarterbacks who started at a lower level 133 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:48.000 of competition and ended up rising up to the occasion. 134 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:49.959 I mean, Helly was the number one pick overall. Even 135 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:54.560 Aaron Rodgers at one point was a junior college kid. 136 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.000 But what do you make of what I perceived to 137 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.279 be more or less consensus belief that Devon really is 138 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:00.680 the guy? 139 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.879 Well, how do I how do I phrase this without 140 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.079 outing a bunch of folks? In our industry, people can 141 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:12.399 watch a highlight reel and overreact that is this. You 142 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:14.240 can be a media member and you can be a fan, 143 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.800 and sometimes those two realities intersect. And if you watch 144 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.240 Devin Dan Pierce highlight reel from last year, you think, Okay, 145 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:25.000 if this dude doesn't have to necessarily take off and 146 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.199 run for his life as often, if he has a 147 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.079 reliable run game, if he has guys to throw to, 148 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.800 like maybe there is something waiting to be unleashed within 149 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:39.560 this player. But again, we have to like if we're 150 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:43.639 if we're being responsible, we can't overreact to what you 151 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:47.000 see on tape at a totally different school with mainly 152 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:50.519 different you know, members of cast members. Granted Jason Beck 153 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:54.000 the signal caller or the play callers is coming with him. 154 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:54.959 But like. 155 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.480 I think when we talk about preseason prognostication and just 156 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:02.959 getting hyped about the season, I think it's easy for 157 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.879 media members nationally or locally to be like, did you 158 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:08.319 see this guy's tape? Can you imagine what it would 159 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:11.800 look like if he had you know, everybody you know beefed. 160 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:13.879 Up around him? Yeah, you can. You can imagine that. 161 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.480 But as we've seen here locally at the quarterback position 162 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:22.000 at Utah the last twenty years, it is pretty difficult 163 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:26.319 to like stay upright, stay successful. Like before Tyler Huntley 164 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:29.519 and Cam Rising, it was pretty slim pickens man. I mean, 165 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.440 like Travis Wilson, bless his heart for all the times 166 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:34.799 he sacrificed his body, was kind of considered to be 167 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:37.080 the best Pac twelve quarterback of Utah's era. 168 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:38.399 But before those guys. 169 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:43.320 Came along, so long winded way of saying, you can 170 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.120 get excited about a player's potential, but I think you 171 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:49.000 have to be responsible about, you know, hyping it to 172 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:52.639 the point of maybe being unfair to the player, because 173 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.960 as we've talked about as well, like you're setting unrealistic 174 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:00.840 expectations for a guy who may you know, experience some 175 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:04.000 roadbumps along the way, and that's totally fine because he's 176 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.519 entering a level of play that he will not have 177 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.440 faced during his time in New Mexico. 178 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.360 So Big twelve strength of schedule Baylor has the heart 179 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:15.879 of this is according to CBS Sports, Baylor has the 180 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:20.840 hardest schedule in the conference. TCU is two and they 181 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:24.759 they put Utah at three as far as the hardest 182 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:27.279 schedule in the conference. Now, I think if you're a 183 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:29.679 YOUTE fan, the good news is now we have the 184 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.799 AP poll and we have the Coach's Poll, which is 185 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:36.720 somewhat of an unseious endeavor. But all three ranked teams 186 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:39.399 at least as of now, and it's preseason, so so 187 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.720 many things will change. Play here in saut Lake, So 188 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:45.879 Texas Tech is your conference opener, number twenty three team 189 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.679 in the country. Arizona State's the highest ranked Big twelve 190 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.879 team at eleven. They play here in Salt Lake. KSE 191 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.480 State comes in at seventeen. It's the second to last 192 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:58.519 game on the schedule, in the final home game for 193 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.480 the youth. So you have that when it comes to 194 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.120 strength of schedules. Some tough teams, but the majority of 195 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:06.279 the tough teams you play are here in Salt Lake, 196 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:10.919 tough road game of course down at BYU in Provo. 197 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.120 They do have to play in Waco against Baylor, who 198 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.519 a lot of people are high on, and they closed 199 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.720 the season at Kansas who just got a three hundred 200 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:22.000 million dollar check today. Nice department, Yeah, it must be nice. 201 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.000 Seven point five ck is the Vegas over under for 202 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.759 Utah football this year? Does that feel right to you 203 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.600 or do you think they can maybe scratch double digits? 204 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:33.080 Oh? 205 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:38.159 I think for me as somebody who's followed the program 206 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:40.240 obviously very closely for a very long time, but is 207 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:41.039 no longer. 208 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:42.879 Covering it, still trying to pay attention. 209 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.080 Through the lens of the folks on the you know, 210 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:49.200 the ground level, like you and the b writers. I 211 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:52.480 think I'm going to say like eight to nine makes 212 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:57.279 sense in terms of a ceiling. Granted, nobody really saw 213 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.759 the floor coming the last couple of years during the 214 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:03.600 Camp Rising debacle either, So I don't know if if 215 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:07.399 getting to ten or eleven wins is doable considering the 216 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:10.080 amount of questions we still have on the offensive side 217 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.320 of the ball. I mean, Spence can't go understated like, 218 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.639 how little we know about this team on the offensive side, 219 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.120 ball like we can't and like again you have to 220 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.279 be responsible. But Utah does have one hell of a big. 221 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:22.639 Thing going for it. 222 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.879 They have an amazing offensive line, so that will help, 223 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.080 Like I said, but in terms of how Jason's going 224 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.720 to call, you know, plays, who he's going to call 225 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:34.159 plays for on the outside, nobody knows. They brought in 226 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:38.559 a bunch of receivers from places parts unknown, you know, 227 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.679 bit piece guys that were at decent size schools to 228 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:42.600 small schools. 229 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:43.759 Nobody knows. 230 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.480 I know they brought in the kid from New Mexico, 231 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:47.559 who is one of Devin's you know, favorite targets from 232 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.320 last year. But how does he translate, you know, to 233 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:52.759 the P four level. How does the kid who is 234 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.759 at cal, who was at Notre Dame before, how does 235 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:57.840 he translate everybody's excited about his stature? How does the 236 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.559 kid from southern myst Like I mean, like list goes 237 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:02.879 on and on, and that doesn't even really account for 238 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:07.240 the running game. So if Jason's able to put a functional, 239 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:11.159 fun offense together that can playoff of Utah's you know, 240 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.840 typically strong defense, I think eight to nine is realistic. 241 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.559 So some news came down today that I do think 242 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:23.000 is noteworthy as it pertains to the way things have 243 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:26.000 been handled here in the state pertain, you know, as 244 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:30.000 it pertains to reporting injuries. And this isn't an interesting 245 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:33.799 topic to me because I've heard in the past Lincoln Riley, 246 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:40.120 Lane Kiffin among others, almost mock coaches that believe not 247 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:44.440 reporting injuries actually gives them an advantage. So it really 248 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:47.080 depends on which coach you hear from, which coach you 249 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:50.320 talk to as far as their opinion on this dynamic. 250 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.799 Now we know coach with and Klane have always kept 251 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.960 their injuries very close to the vest, and they've decided 252 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.279 to be clandestine, and it leads to a lot of 253 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.480 frustrations in the fan base. And you know, ultimately the 254 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.159 days of making it to your seat and then waiting 255 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.200 to see a Cameron Rising runs out of the tunnel 256 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:12.440 with his shoulder pads on are now over because the 257 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:16.080 Big twelve has now joined the ACC and the SEC 258 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.919 and the Big Ten. So all P four conferences k 259 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:24.080 are now required to report injuries. Number one three days 260 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:28.279 before the game and number two ninety minutes before kickoff. 261 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:32.960 Listing players is available probable, questionable or doubtful or out, 262 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:36.080 depending on their status. I think it's the right move. 263 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:38.240 The pro's been doing this forever. What do you make 264 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.840 of the announcement out of the Big twelve today? 265 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:45.120 Necessary saves a lot of people a lot of headaches locally. 266 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:50.200 If I had to guess, this is just totally opinion, 267 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:53.559 my guess would Kyle would eventually go if unless the 268 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.559 player is absolutely out, you'll see probable or questionable. I 269 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.600 like Kyle like that would be I guess now, I 270 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:02.799 don't know how if you know there's going to be 271 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:04.960 some twisting of the arm behind the scenes to say, 272 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.200 like if this player is one hundred percent available, I 273 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:12.080 think there will be ways to kind of massage the 274 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:13.399 availability reports. 275 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.360 We'll see how that goes. But yeah, it's necessary. 276 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.720 It's long overdue, and Kyle's always said he's long branded 277 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.440 a proponent of if it becomes a conference wide initiative, 278 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:24.879 that he would support it, but until then, it wouldn't 279 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.879 make sense for him to tip tip the opponent's hand, 280 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:30.679 you know, tip his handed the opponent, so to speak, 281 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.120 as he said ad nauseum over the years. So I 282 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.720 think it's good. I'm fascinated to see how it's deployed. 283 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:38.759 I don't think you'll ever get to the point of 284 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:42.759 of where the NFL is where you get pretty you know, 285 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.919 specific reports, but that comes with, you know, a player's 286 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:50.559 association in the union and setting sort of realistic expectations 287 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:53.440 when it comes to both sides. But I think the 288 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:56.879 ACC you know, adopted this was one of the first 289 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:58.919 power conferences to adopt this. I don't know, I can't 290 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.559 remember if the SEC or ten have as well, but 291 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.000 it's it's going to be a breath of fresh air, 292 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:06.279 so to speak, for people to know kind of where 293 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:08.720 rosters stand on a week to week basis. 294 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:15.360 So an interesting dynamic here with BYU. Okay, so BYU 295 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:17.759 in both the Coaches poll where they're ranked twenty three 296 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.879 and the AP poll where technically their ranked twenty six. 297 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:26.120 Both those polls indicate that plenty of people believe BYU 298 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.399 is a better team than Utah because they're ranked out 299 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.000 of Utah in those polls. Now, if you look at 300 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:34.240 the Vegas odds and I have the DraftKings odds up, 301 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:36.720 there are different sports books that are a little bit 302 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.720 kind of fluctuating with this. Utah is plus six hundred 303 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.720 to win the Big Twelve. That's behind only k State 304 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:47.639 and Texas Tech, and it's actually tied right now with 305 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:50.919 Arizona State. So the Vegas favorites when the conference are 306 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:53.200 KSE State, Texas Tech, and then right behind them are 307 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:56.960 Arizona State. In Utah, Baylor's plus six fifty that would 308 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.639 put them at five. BYU is plus eighteen one hundred, 309 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.240 and in some sports books they're plus two thousand, which 310 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:08.080 puts them behind Kansas and just ahead of Colorado, and 311 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:10.360 that would be the number eight spot in the Big Twelve, 312 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:12.960 and then they're over under in Vegas is six point 313 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:18.000 five wins, So Vegas is not in lockstep with the 314 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:21.080 Poles who believe BYU is ranked a little bit higher 315 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.559 and it's a better team than Utah. Now, a lot 316 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.320 of this is pertaining the schedule, a lot of this 317 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.200 is pertaining to probably the unknown nature under center, but 318 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.399 it does sound like Bear Bachmeyer is gonna win that job. 319 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:37.240 A freshman who Aaron Roderick recruited heavily out of high school, 320 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.039 wanted him badly. Bear ends up at Stanford for springball, 321 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:45.519 transfers to BYU. Jake's at Tulane McKay Hillstead it sounds 322 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:47.200 it sounds like he's still in the mix, but it 323 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.200 sounds like Bear is gonna win this job. What do 324 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:52.639 you you know, what are your thoughts on just kind 325 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.919 of what I perceived to be several different layers of 326 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:58.679 trying to analyze who Byu is with the polls to 327 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:01.720 saying one thing and Vegas clearly saying another. 328 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.920 Well, I'm probably a bigger proponent of the fact of 329 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:10.440 the uncertainty around the quarterback position because I understand that, 330 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.720 you know, Jake Gretzlov had some you know, highlight reel 331 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:16.519 games last year. He had some great comeback performances in 332 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:19.480 the fourth quarter, obviously, one of the biggest being that 333 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.640 performance at Rice Cycle Stadium late But the but the 334 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.119 reality is, it's like Vegas is never going to trust 335 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:29.519 the team that doesn't have a seasoned veteran under center 336 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.119 unless they are a blue blood, which is you know, 337 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:34.279 the Ohio State is going to break in a new starter. 338 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:37.119 But they just won the national championship. They have probably 339 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.680 the Heisman frontrunner and Jeremiah Smith and one of the 340 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:42.720 best defenses in the country. B Yu a little different boat, 341 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.480 but I mean people forget that last year, like b 342 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:50.039 Yu their their mantra. Their MO was like defense and 343 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:52.799 takeaways and setting up Jake and that offense and really 344 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.920 good field position, you know, patterns where like they were 345 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:58.799 able to take advantage of that, and like when LJ. 346 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.400 Martin was healthy, like he was the guy that was 347 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:06.279 getting the bulk of the carries. So you know, I 348 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:11.799 understand why bear Bachmeier will you know, be the starter 349 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:13.640 if he is, because as you mentioned, Aaron was. 350 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:16.000 Really high on him. He was a really highly touted recruit. 351 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:19.559 But I don't think historically Vegas is going to trust 352 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:23.359 kind of a ringe top twenty five AP or top 353 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.240 twenty five Coaches Bowl team to really go deep in 354 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:28.079 the season if they've never had a guy who's taking 355 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:28.799 a single snap. 356 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.119 Your thoughts on the eight people, I mean, we've already 357 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:35.519 discussed the coaches poll, which appears to be somewhat of 358 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:40.079 an unserious endeavor. Kyle Bonnagura, one of our friends from ESPN, 359 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:42.880 he said the only coach he's ever been able to 360 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:46.039 get on record to admit that he actually did it 361 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.519 was David Shaw, who then followed up by letting him 362 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:51.839 know he did it once and then stopped doing it 363 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:55.920 after that. I told you a few years back, I 364 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:58.119 texted a coach locally and asked him if he had 365 00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:00.440 ever done this before. He said the same thing once. 366 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:04.000 Then he just outsources it. But the ap polesk at 367 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:08.519 least is consistent with folks that actually seem to pay attention. 368 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.359 At least that's their job. And you know, there's some 369 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:14.519 similarities between the two, there are some differences. So how 370 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:16.599 accurate it look? None of us know anything. As I 371 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.400 say all the time, they won't even let us do 372 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:22.079 a Big twelve preseason poll anymore. But generally speaking, how 373 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.559 much doc do you put into the ap pole juxtapposed 374 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:25.319 to the coach's pull? 375 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.039 Has the culture wars come for our poll? Spence, I 376 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:30.319 might have missed something. 377 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:32.240 I think, so okay, I feel like it. Yep. 378 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.839 Well, I know they dissuaded everybody from participating in the 379 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:42.079 preseason Big twelve poll, which I guess from the Big 380 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:44.680 Twelve's perspective, it makes sense because last year it was 381 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.279 such a clown show that pretty much everybody who is 382 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:49.640 projected to go from eight to sixteen finish one to 383 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:54.000 eight and vice versa. But listen, man, I'm a proponent 384 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:57.119 of the a peopole like these are mainly people who 385 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.000 covered the sport for decades and even if they're younger, 386 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.319 they know the sport inside and out. I mean, my 387 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.119 guy Ralph Russo, who we hired from the who was 388 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:10.680 like the chief AP college football sports writer, wrote a 389 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.519 great column last week about you know, finally having finally 390 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:17.519 having a vote because he was usually you know, tasked 391 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.240 with putting it together because that was his old job. 392 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:21.799 Now he's with the athletic and he finally gets to vote, 393 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:24.680 and he wrote an interesting column. And I think Stu 394 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:26.920 Mandel wrote a story about. 395 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:28.079 The history of the AP pole. 396 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:32.480 So like, I don't know, man, I'm maybe I'm being 397 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:35.720 a little facetious when I talk about the culture wars 398 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:38.400 coming for our polls, but I don't think it really 399 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:43.039 necessarily puts anyone at a significant disadvantage one way or 400 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:45.240 the other, because at the end of the day, the 401 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:48.079