Speaker 1: And I will wish our guy, Chris Comradnie a very
Speaker 1: happy Wednesday. Ck.
Speaker 2: How are you, buddy on barefoot on a carpet? It
Speaker 2: couldn't be better. How are you.
Speaker 1: Barefoot on a carpet? Well, I am on a carpet.
Speaker 1: I am not barefoot. I am at the Utah Red
Speaker 1: Zone store, at the campus store University of Utah. But
Speaker 1: I'm older than you are. When I was here at school,
Speaker 1: we called this the bookstore. What did you guys? Bookstore?
Speaker 2: We called it the bookstore.
Speaker 3: Funny story, Once upon a time I was asked to
Speaker 3: be on the cover of a brochure, you know, because
Speaker 3: when you think of University of Utah, you think of,
Speaker 3: you know, people who look like me. So I think
Speaker 3: it was nine Spring of nine. I can't remember what
Speaker 3: the brochure was exactly, but it was on some racks
Speaker 3: in the old bookstore. So if anybody has a copy
Speaker 3: of some obscure University of Utah specific student magazine from
Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen years ago, hit me up.
Speaker 1: Now, that's all I want to see. I'm sure I
Speaker 1: do not have that, but maybe we can track it
Speaker 1: out at some point. One more Utah student experience question
Speaker 1: related question based off of us being here on campus today,
Speaker 1: had a little PTSD rolling in because the parking situation
Speaker 1: continues to be very similar to what it was when
Speaker 1: I was a student. We had this running line my
Speaker 1: friends and I where oftentimes somebody would leave to go
Speaker 1: to class, then suddenly ten minutes later they're back at
Speaker 1: the house and he'd say, wait, did you go to class?
Speaker 1: And they said, well, I've wanted to, but I couldn't
Speaker 1: find a place to park. It feels like there's like
Speaker 1: a collusion involved, like a racket somewhere, where they simply
Speaker 1: do not want you to be able to park. Even
Speaker 1: if you pay for the top end pass, you are ticketed,
Speaker 1: and this revenue has to fund something serious because it
Speaker 1: continues to be like the biggest roadblock between students and
Speaker 1: diploma is the inability to park at the University of Utah.
Speaker 1: Did you experience the same thing.
Speaker 3: I did, which is why my last year and a
Speaker 3: half I started taking the bus smart And when you
Speaker 3: were a student back in the day, you would get
Speaker 3: a free UTA pass. I don't know if that's still
Speaker 3: the case, but living in the abs, living by the capitol,
Speaker 3: straight shot, I can't remember the name of my bus,
Speaker 3: but I loved it dropped me off right by the
Speaker 3: by the Hyper.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Hyper still exists anymore. I
Speaker 2: think it was. It was a once upon a time.
Speaker 3: It was like considered to be the most dangerous building
Speaker 3: on campus because if like there was a short premer
Speaker 3: that's supposed to hit this place anytime soon, that it
Speaker 3: would basically crumble to pieces.
Speaker 2: So that was my stop.
Speaker 3: And yes, like once upon a time, I decided that
Speaker 3: it was no longer feasible for me to drive my
Speaker 3: beat up old Subaru to try to find a parking
Speaker 3: spot at the University of Utah. But it's not as
Speaker 3: bad as I will say in terms of availability, Utah's bad.
Speaker 3: But my friends, and I'm sure you have friends as well,
Speaker 3: My BYU friends have told me horror stories about being
Speaker 3: ticketed on campus around the apartment buildings down there, Like
Speaker 3: horror stories that like maybe we're out of their car
Speaker 3: for three minutes and they got got so granted. This
Speaker 3: is I'm not, you know, doing the Holy word thing
Speaker 3: when it comes to parking places on the drive.
Speaker 2: But both places have problems.
Speaker 1: I'll say that, okay, equal time, equal time, And if
Speaker 1: you're just tuning in Ck has now created a beef
Speaker 1: between BYU and Utah students and who has a worst
Speaker 1: parking situation? So chime in on that, all right, Ck,
Speaker 1: You are a truth teller, and more often than not,
Speaker 1: I will begrudgingly admit that you're typically right on a
Speaker 1: scale of the unknowns on Utah football on one side,
Speaker 1: and podcast people that are already talking about Devin dan
Speaker 1: pier is potentially winning a Heisman on the other side,
Speaker 1: Where are you with your belief that this quarterback will
Speaker 1: deliver the things he needs to deliver to make Utah
Speaker 1: contender in the Big twelve this year?
Speaker 3: Well, he has one thing going form that he's never
Speaker 3: had and maybe never will again, as it's one of
Speaker 3: the best offensive lines in the country watching its back.
Speaker 3: They return all five starters, a couple bookend tackles that are.
Speaker 2: Likely to be first round picks.
Speaker 3: Obviously, everybody knows about Spencer Fano being projected potentially as
Speaker 3: a top ten, top five pick. That helps, and it
Speaker 3: helps having some talented, albeit unknown running backs behind you.
Speaker 2: This is going to be a work in progress.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this again and again.
Speaker 3: But it really really expedites the process for Jason Beck
Speaker 3: and his offense because of the personnel they have up
Speaker 3: front with the big guys.
Speaker 2: Other than that, like, are.
Speaker 3: People going to believe that because Wayshaun Parker had a
Speaker 3: decent freshman year at Wazoo while Wazuo was playing kind
Speaker 3: of it's fake CW schedule last year. Like is he
Speaker 3: going to turn into the thousand yard fifteen hundred yard
Speaker 3: back that Utah was used to having for a decade.
Speaker 3: If you want to be an O to miss, you
Speaker 3: can believe that. But you know, conversely, Kyle Whittingham came
Speaker 3: out last week or this week and said there's kind
Speaker 3: of not a definitive pecking order at the running back
Speaker 3: position right now. So and we haven't really even gotten
Speaker 3: to the wide receivers yet. I know, you know, Kyle
Speaker 3: talks about they got their travel guys, Well, they've had
Speaker 3: travel guys for a very long time, and too often
Speaker 3: their travel guys don't necessarily translate to guys who show
Speaker 3: up on game days. Whether that's quarterback play, whether that's
Speaker 3: play calling, whether that's individual skill, you know, all of
Speaker 3: that is up for debate. Devin Dampierre is a talented player.
Speaker 3: You've seen his highlight packages but again, I'm going to
Speaker 3: proceed with caution and say, like, he accounted for a
Speaker 3: bleep ton of touchdowns and he looks really fun when
Speaker 3: you watch his highlight reel, but he still threw for
Speaker 3: twelve touchdowns and twelve interceptions on a bad New Mexico
Speaker 3: team last year. Granted, rising tides lift all ships or
Speaker 3: boats or whatever. I get that idiom, but like, the
Speaker 3: reality is is he's going to have to be a
Speaker 3: lot better if Utah is going to be in contention
Speaker 3: for the Big Twelve this year, because I'm fascinated to
Speaker 3: see how the learning curve is, because I think it
Speaker 3: might be a little steper than some folks around her belief.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I tend to agree with you, and I
Speaker 1: don't know. I try not to only have shills on
Speaker 1: my show. When Homer's on my show, I don't enjoy
Speaker 1: those conversations because there's no authenticity authenticity, and I just
Speaker 1: end up rolling my eyes more often than not. But
Speaker 1: I haven't heard very many people discussed this kind of
Speaker 1: trepidation that you're outlining. And then I tend to agree
Speaker 1: with when it comes to Devon himself, And there are
Speaker 1: plenty of examples, you know, cam Ward is the most
Speaker 1: recent example of quarterbacks who started at a lower level
Speaker 1: of competition and ended up rising up to the occasion.
Speaker 1: I mean, Helly was the number one pick overall. Even
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers at one point was a junior college kid.
Speaker 1: But what do you make of what I perceived to
Speaker 1: be more or less consensus belief that Devon really is
Speaker 1: the guy?
Speaker 3: Well, how do I how do I phrase this without
Speaker 3: outing a bunch of folks? In our industry, people can
Speaker 3: watch a highlight reel and overreact that is this. You
Speaker 3: can be a media member and you can be a fan,
Speaker 3: and sometimes those two realities intersect. And if you watch
Speaker 3: Devin Dan Pierce highlight reel from last year, you think, Okay,
Speaker 3: if this dude doesn't have to necessarily take off and
Speaker 3: run for his life as often, if he has a
Speaker 3: reliable run game, if he has guys to throw to,
Speaker 3: like maybe there is something waiting to be unleashed within
Speaker 3: this player. But again, we have to like if we're
Speaker 3: if we're being responsible, we can't overreact to what you
Speaker 3: see on tape at a totally different school with mainly
Speaker 3: different you know, members of cast members. Granted Jason Beck
Speaker 3: the signal caller or the play callers is coming with him.
Speaker 1: But like.
Speaker 3: I think when we talk about preseason prognostication and just
Speaker 3: getting hyped about the season, I think it's easy for
Speaker 3: media members nationally or locally to be like, did you
Speaker 3: see this guy's tape? Can you imagine what it would
Speaker 3: look like if he had you know, everybody you know beefed.
Speaker 2: Up around him? Yeah, you can. You can imagine that.
Speaker 3: But as we've seen here locally at the quarterback position
Speaker 3: at Utah the last twenty years, it is pretty difficult
Speaker 3: to like stay upright, stay successful. Like before Tyler Huntley
Speaker 3: and Cam Rising, it was pretty slim pickens man. I mean,
Speaker 3: like Travis Wilson, bless his heart for all the times
Speaker 3: he sacrificed his body, was kind of considered to be
Speaker 3: the best Pac twelve quarterback of Utah's era.
Speaker 2: But before those guys.
Speaker 3: Came along, so long winded way of saying, you can
Speaker 3: get excited about a player's potential, but I think you
Speaker 3: have to be responsible about, you know, hyping it to
Speaker 3: the point of maybe being unfair to the player, because
Speaker 3: as we've talked about as well, like you're setting unrealistic
Speaker 3: expectations for a guy who may you know, experience some
Speaker 3: roadbumps along the way, and that's totally fine because he's
Speaker 3: entering a level of play that he will not have
Speaker 3: faced during his time in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: So Big twelve strength of schedule Baylor has the heart
Speaker 1: of this is according to CBS Sports, Baylor has the
Speaker 1: hardest schedule in the conference. TCU is two and they
Speaker 1: they put Utah at three as far as the hardest
Speaker 1: schedule in the conference. Now, I think if you're a
Speaker 1: YOUTE fan, the good news is now we have the
Speaker 1: AP poll and we have the Coach's Poll, which is
Speaker 1: somewhat of an unseious endeavor. But all three ranked teams
Speaker 1: at least as of now, and it's preseason, so so
Speaker 1: many things will change. Play here in saut Lake, So
Speaker 1: Texas Tech is your conference opener, number twenty three team
Speaker 1: in the country. Arizona State's the highest ranked Big twelve
Speaker 1: team at eleven. They play here in Salt Lake. KSE
Speaker 1: State comes in at seventeen. It's the second to last
Speaker 1: game on the schedule, in the final home game for
Speaker 1: the youth. So you have that when it comes to
Speaker 1: strength of schedules. Some tough teams, but the majority of
Speaker 1: the tough teams you play are here in Salt Lake,
Speaker 1: tough road game of course down at BYU in Provo.
Speaker 1: They do have to play in Waco against Baylor, who
Speaker 1: a lot of people are high on, and they closed
Speaker 1: the season at Kansas who just got a three hundred
Speaker 1: million dollar check today. Nice department, Yeah, it must be nice.
Speaker 1: Seven point five ck is the Vegas over under for
Speaker 1: Utah football this year? Does that feel right to you
Speaker 1: or do you think they can maybe scratch double digits?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I think for me as somebody who's followed the program
Speaker 3: obviously very closely for a very long time, but is
Speaker 3: no longer.
Speaker 2: Covering it, still trying to pay attention.
Speaker 3: Through the lens of the folks on the you know,
Speaker 3: the ground level, like you and the b writers. I
Speaker 3: think I'm going to say like eight to nine makes
Speaker 3: sense in terms of a ceiling. Granted, nobody really saw
Speaker 3: the floor coming the last couple of years during the
Speaker 3: Camp Rising debacle either, So I don't know if if
Speaker 3: getting to ten or eleven wins is doable considering the
Speaker 3: amount of questions we still have on the offensive side
Speaker 3: of the ball. I mean, Spence can't go understated like,
Speaker 3: how little we know about this team on the offensive side,
Speaker 3: ball like we can't and like again you have to
Speaker 3: be responsible. But Utah does have one hell of a big.
Speaker 2: Thing going for it.
Speaker 3: They have an amazing offensive line, so that will help,
Speaker 3: Like I said, but in terms of how Jason's going
Speaker 3: to call, you know, plays, who he's going to call
Speaker 3: plays for on the outside, nobody knows. They brought in
Speaker 3: a bunch of receivers from places parts unknown, you know,
Speaker 3: bit piece guys that were at decent size schools to
Speaker 3: small schools.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows.
Speaker 3: I know they brought in the kid from New Mexico,
Speaker 3: who is one of Devin's you know, favorite targets from
Speaker 3: last year. But how does he translate, you know, to
Speaker 3: the P four level. How does the kid who is
Speaker 3: at cal, who was at Notre Dame before, how does
Speaker 3: he translate everybody's excited about his stature? How does the
Speaker 3: kid from southern myst Like I mean, like list goes
Speaker 3: on and on, and that doesn't even really account for
Speaker 3: the running game. So if Jason's able to put a functional,
Speaker 3: fun offense together that can playoff of Utah's you know,
Speaker 3: typically strong defense, I think eight to nine is realistic.
Speaker 1: So some news came down today that I do think
Speaker 1: is noteworthy as it pertains to the way things have
Speaker 1: been handled here in the state pertain, you know, as
Speaker 1: it pertains to reporting injuries. And this isn't an interesting
Speaker 1: topic to me because I've heard in the past Lincoln Riley,
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin among others, almost mock coaches that believe not
Speaker 1: reporting injuries actually gives them an advantage. So it really
Speaker 1: depends on which coach you hear from, which coach you
Speaker 1: talk to as far as their opinion on this dynamic.
Speaker 1: Now we know coach with and Klane have always kept
Speaker 1: their injuries very close to the vest, and they've decided
Speaker 1: to be clandestine, and it leads to a lot of
Speaker 1: frustrations in the fan base. And you know, ultimately the
Speaker 1: days of making it to your seat and then waiting
Speaker 1: to see a Cameron Rising runs out of the tunnel
Speaker 1: with his shoulder pads on are now over because the
Speaker 1: Big twelve has now joined the ACC and the SEC
Speaker 1: and the Big Ten. So all P four conferences k
Speaker 1: are now required to report injuries. Number one three days
Speaker 1: before the game and number two ninety minutes before kickoff.
Speaker 1: Listing players is available probable, questionable or doubtful or out,
Speaker 1: depending on their status. I think it's the right move.
Speaker 1: The pro's been doing this forever. What do you make
Speaker 1: of the announcement out of the Big twelve today?
Speaker 3: Necessary saves a lot of people a lot of headaches locally.
Speaker 3: If I had to guess, this is just totally opinion,
Speaker 3: my guess would Kyle would eventually go if unless the
Speaker 3: player is absolutely out, you'll see probable or questionable. I
Speaker 3: like Kyle like that would be I guess now, I
Speaker 3: don't know how if you know there's going to be
Speaker 3: some twisting of the arm behind the scenes to say,
Speaker 3: like if this player is one hundred percent available, I
Speaker 3: think there will be ways to kind of massage the
Speaker 3: availability reports.
Speaker 2: We'll see how that goes. But yeah, it's necessary.
Speaker 3: It's long overdue, and Kyle's always said he's long branded
Speaker 3: a proponent of if it becomes a conference wide initiative,
Speaker 3: that he would support it, but until then, it wouldn't
Speaker 3: make sense for him to tip tip the opponent's hand,
Speaker 3: you know, tip his handed the opponent, so to speak,
Speaker 3: as he said ad nauseum over the years. So I
Speaker 3: think it's good. I'm fascinated to see how it's deployed.
Speaker 3: I don't think you'll ever get to the point of
Speaker 3: of where the NFL is where you get pretty you know,
Speaker 3: specific reports, but that comes with, you know, a player's
Speaker 3: association in the union and setting sort of realistic expectations
Speaker 3: when it comes to both sides. But I think the
Speaker 3: ACC you know, adopted this was one of the first
Speaker 3: power conferences to adopt this. I don't know, I can't
Speaker 3: remember if the SEC or ten have as well, but
Speaker 3: it's it's going to be a breath of fresh air,
Speaker 3: so to speak, for people to know kind of where
Speaker 3: rosters stand on a week to week basis.
Speaker 1: So an interesting dynamic here with BYU. Okay, so BYU
Speaker 1: in both the Coaches poll where they're ranked twenty three
Speaker 1: and the AP poll where technically their ranked twenty six.
Speaker 1: Both those polls indicate that plenty of people believe BYU
Speaker 1: is a better team than Utah because they're ranked out
Speaker 1: of Utah in those polls. Now, if you look at
Speaker 1: the Vegas odds and I have the DraftKings odds up,
Speaker 1: there are different sports books that are a little bit
Speaker 1: kind of fluctuating with this. Utah is plus six hundred
Speaker 1: to win the Big Twelve. That's behind only k State
Speaker 1: and Texas Tech, and it's actually tied right now with
Speaker 1: Arizona State. So the Vegas favorites when the conference are
Speaker 1: KSE State, Texas Tech, and then right behind them are
Speaker 1: Arizona State. In Utah, Baylor's plus six fifty that would
Speaker 1: put them at five. BYU is plus eighteen one hundred,
Speaker 1: and in some sports books they're plus two thousand, which
Speaker 1: puts them behind Kansas and just ahead of Colorado, and
Speaker 1: that would be the number eight spot in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 1: and then they're over under in Vegas is six point
Speaker 1: five wins, So Vegas is not in lockstep with the
Speaker 1: Poles who believe BYU is ranked a little bit higher
Speaker 1: and it's a better team than Utah. Now, a lot
Speaker 1: of this is pertaining the schedule, a lot of this
Speaker 1: is pertaining to probably the unknown nature under center, but
Speaker 1: it does sound like Bear Bachmeyer is gonna win that job.
Speaker 1: A freshman who Aaron Roderick recruited heavily out of high school,
Speaker 1: wanted him badly. Bear ends up at Stanford for springball,
Speaker 1: transfers to BYU. Jake's at Tulane McKay Hillstead it sounds
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's still in the mix, but it
Speaker 1: sounds like Bear is gonna win this job. What do
Speaker 1: you you know, what are your thoughts on just kind
Speaker 1: of what I perceived to be several different layers of
Speaker 1: trying to analyze who Byu is with the polls to
Speaker 1: saying one thing and Vegas clearly saying another.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm probably a bigger proponent of the fact of
Speaker 3: the uncertainty around the quarterback position because I understand that,
Speaker 3: you know, Jake Gretzlov had some you know, highlight reel
Speaker 3: games last year. He had some great comeback performances in
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, obviously, one of the biggest being that
Speaker 3: performance at Rice Cycle Stadium late But the but the
Speaker 3: reality is, it's like Vegas is never going to trust
Speaker 3: the team that doesn't have a seasoned veteran under center
Speaker 3: unless they are a blue blood, which is you know,
Speaker 3: the Ohio State is going to break in a new starter.
Speaker 3: But they just won the national championship. They have probably
Speaker 3: the Heisman frontrunner and Jeremiah Smith and one of the
Speaker 3: best defenses in the country. B Yu a little different boat,
Speaker 3: but I mean people forget that last year, like b
Speaker 3: Yu their their mantra. Their MO was like defense and
Speaker 3: takeaways and setting up Jake and that offense and really
Speaker 3: good field position, you know, patterns where like they were
Speaker 3: able to take advantage of that, and like when LJ.
Speaker 3: Martin was healthy, like he was the guy that was
Speaker 3: getting the bulk of the carries. So you know, I
Speaker 3: understand why bear Bachmeier will you know, be the starter
Speaker 3: if he is, because as you mentioned, Aaron was.
Speaker 2: Really high on him. He was a really highly touted recruit.
Speaker 3: But I don't think historically Vegas is going to trust
Speaker 3: kind of a ringe top twenty five AP or top
Speaker 3: twenty five Coaches Bowl team to really go deep in
Speaker 3: the season if they've never had a guy who's taking
Speaker 3: a single snap.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the eight people, I mean, we've already
Speaker 1: discussed the coaches poll, which appears to be somewhat of
Speaker 1: an unserious endeavor. Kyle Bonnagura, one of our friends from ESPN,
Speaker 1: he said the only coach he's ever been able to
Speaker 1: get on record to admit that he actually did it
Speaker 1: was David Shaw, who then followed up by letting him
Speaker 1: know he did it once and then stopped doing it
Speaker 1: after that. I told you a few years back, I
Speaker 1: texted a coach locally and asked him if he had
Speaker 1: ever done this before. He said the same thing once.
Speaker 1: Then he just outsources it. But the ap polesk at
Speaker 1: least is consistent with folks that actually seem to pay attention.
Speaker 1: At least that's their job. And you know, there's some
Speaker 1: similarities between the two, there are some differences. So how
Speaker 1: accurate it look? None of us know anything. As I
Speaker 1: say all the time, they won't even let us do
Speaker 1: a Big twelve preseason poll anymore. But generally speaking, how
Speaker 1: much doc do you put into the ap pole juxtapposed
Speaker 1: to the coach's pull?
Speaker 3: Has the culture wars come for our poll? Spence, I
Speaker 3: might have missed something.
Speaker 1: I think, so okay, I feel like it. Yep.
Speaker 3: Well, I know they dissuaded everybody from participating in the
Speaker 3: preseason Big twelve poll, which I guess from the Big
Speaker 3: Twelve's perspective, it makes sense because last year it was
Speaker 3: such a clown show that pretty much everybody who is
Speaker 3: projected to go from eight to sixteen finish one to
Speaker 3: eight and vice versa. But listen, man, I'm a proponent
Speaker 3: of the a peopole like these are mainly people who
Speaker 3: covered the sport for decades and even if they're younger,
Speaker 3: they know the sport inside and out. I mean, my
Speaker 3: guy Ralph Russo, who we hired from the who was
Speaker 3: like the chief AP college football sports writer, wrote a
Speaker 3: great column last week about you know, finally having finally
Speaker 3: having a vote because he was usually you know, tasked
Speaker 3: with putting it together because that was his old job.
Speaker 3: Now he's with the athletic and he finally gets to vote,
Speaker 3: and he wrote an interesting column. And I think Stu
Speaker 3: Mandel wrote a story about.
Speaker 2: The history of the AP pole.
Speaker 3: So like, I don't know, man, I'm maybe I'm being
Speaker 3: a little facetious when I talk about the culture wars
Speaker 3: coming for our polls, but I don't think it really
Speaker 3: necessarily puts anyone at a significant disadvantage one way or
Speaker 3: the other, because at the end of the day, the
Speaker 3: players and the coaches have to go out and prove it,
Speaker 3: and more often than not, if you have a good season,
Speaker 3: you'll be rewarded. I mean, nobody had Indiana as a
Speaker 3: top ten team last year. Nobody had SMU as a
Speaker 3: top ten team last year, and I really hope I
Speaker 3: got that. But like, the reality is is if you
Speaker 3: have a good season, you're going to be rewarded.
Speaker 2: Don't don't overthink it.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, are you are polls woke? Are we
Speaker 1: saying that polls are woke? Now? Well, I have to
Speaker 1: ask John Paul Okay, fair enough, Thirteen of the teams
Speaker 1: in the final AP Top twenty five poll last year
Speaker 1: were not ranked in the first AP pole last year.
Speaker 1: So you know, there's always this debate about whether or
Speaker 1: not if you're ranked too low to start the season,
Speaker 1: are you punished at the end. And there really is
Speaker 1: no data to back that up. Chris, There just isn't.
Speaker 1: Like the bottom line is what you said. If you
Speaker 1: win and if you perform, the polls will adjust and
Speaker 1: you'll be fine at the end. Hey, I referenced earlier
Speaker 1: the news that came down today. So the University of
Speaker 1: Kansas received a three hundred million dollar check today from
Speaker 1: David Booth. It is believed to be the largest single
Speaker 1: gift in the history of collegiate athletics, and by far
Speaker 1: the largest largest in school history. They're in the middle
Speaker 1: of a stadium transformation and renovation. Of course they call
Speaker 1: it the David Booth. They just call the campus David
Speaker 1: Booth campus now at this point, so it leads to
Speaker 1: a larger topic Chris, about where we find ourselves here
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake with the University of Utah. I don't
Speaker 1: have hard data. It's hard to understand exactly where every
Speaker 1: school is. You just do the best you can based
Speaker 1: off the talents they're able to acquire via the transfer portal.
Speaker 1: But if this is look, it's not just Kansas, it's
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, we could keep going. There are so many
Speaker 1: athletic departments and schools that are being bankrolled by really
Speaker 1: not kind of rich people like f you money rich people.
Speaker 1: You know, is is this a reality that Utah is
Speaker 1: going to have to adjust to and you think they can?
Speaker 2: Yes? And no.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm always going to be the voice that says,
Speaker 3: if you win, if you give people a reason to
Speaker 3: pay attention to you locally and nationally, that is a.
Speaker 2: That is clout, that is kind of a.
Speaker 3: Measure, And if you can sustain that, then you really
Speaker 3: got something, because if you got people talking about you,
Speaker 3: then maybe there are other big fish, you know, the
Speaker 3: you know, the deeper depths of the pond that maybe
Speaker 3: you haven't thought of or haven't been able to reach
Speaker 3: for a while, and it's always going to come down
Speaker 3: to for me, product on the field, or on the.
Speaker 2: Basketball court or wherever.
Speaker 3: So if if you can sustain a product that is
Speaker 3: worth paying for, that it's worth watching and worth talking about.
Speaker 3: I think more often than not, you're going to be fine.
Speaker 1: All right, before I sit you loose, Let's just sneak
Speaker 1: in a little RSL New York over the weekend. And look, man,
Speaker 1: I am not one. I don't like refs. They remind
Speaker 1: me of people that take jobs in parking enforcement. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you would ever want to do that job.
Speaker 3: That's a full circle spence. We started talking about parking enforcement.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's a good job.
Speaker 2: No, it's good.
Speaker 1: Let's call the callbacks UK and the stand up comedians world,
Speaker 1: So call back to you know, meter maids and folk
Speaker 1: that work in that industry. I'm not here to stand
Speaker 1: up for the officials, and I don't usually blame the officials,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what, man, with all the inroads
Speaker 1: that the game of soccer and the sport of soccer
Speaker 1: have made in the country, and the talent that we're
Speaker 1: seeing playing this league, and you know, soccer specific stadiums
Speaker 1: and the progress of the business of soccer. It does
Speaker 1: feel like the officiating in this league has not kept
Speaker 1: up with progress at all. And I cannot sit here
Speaker 1: and tell you I believe that that game was properly officiated.
Speaker 1: Pablo called it the worst field they've ever played on,
Speaker 1: and it certainly looked like and on television. Diego might
Speaker 1: need a rest. He's going to miss the game this weekend,
Speaker 1: and Charlotte ultimately that may not be a bad thing.
Speaker 1: But your thoughts on the situation involving the sceries of
Speaker 1: miss calls and unfortunate events for RSL against New York
Speaker 1: last Sunday, I.
Speaker 3: Think I'm going to go more with like RSL probably
Speaker 3: should have put like three goals away by halftime and
Speaker 3: or put themselves in that position in the first place,
Speaker 3: like the first twenty minutes RSEL was all over the
Speaker 3: Red Bulls and probably should have scored multiple goals. And
Speaker 3: I understand that, like the reality of the situation is
Speaker 3: like the officiating can be bad in sports, and it
Speaker 3: can be frustrating. The problem is is when you have
Speaker 3: something like var and it's not properly utilized or oftentimes
Speaker 3: like wrongly utilized.
Speaker 2: Then it's like what are we doing? And I think Pablo.
Speaker 3: Masterrunni has said that multiple times and in the last
Speaker 3: year or so regarding var or bar whatever we're calling it, Like,
Speaker 3: unless it's going to be utilized properly, then it kind
Speaker 3: of just slows the flow of the game, confuses fans,
Speaker 3: confuses players, and just doesn't necessarily have the type of
Speaker 3: positive impact that.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to do.
Speaker 3: But again, like I'm going to be the guy that says,
Speaker 3: you know, Rsel probably should have been able to handle
Speaker 3: business themselves.
Speaker 2: The field was gnarly bad, Like I could not believe that.
Speaker 3: The last time I saw a field that bad Spence
Speaker 3: was when I was covering RSL twenty fourteen. And this
Speaker 3: was back when Deloy and his group would really kind
Speaker 3: of farm out Rio tinto stadium at the time for
Speaker 3: lots of events, and the grass would get punished.
Speaker 2: It would just take a beating.
Speaker 3: And I was covering like a high school soccer championship game,
Speaker 3: and I took a photo of the field and I
Speaker 3: put it on Twitter, and like within ten minutes, nat
Speaker 3: Borcher's text mean he was like, Chris, call me, I
Speaker 3: need to talk to you about the field. What is
Speaker 3: going on because they were at it.
Speaker 2: They were on a road trip or something.
Speaker 3: But Spence, it looked like a high school football field
Speaker 3: at Rio Tinto Stadium, Like soccer is not designed to
Speaker 3: be played that way. And I have no idea what
Speaker 3: the hell was going on at I don't even know
Speaker 3: what the stadium is called anymore, Red Bull Arena or whatever.
Speaker 3: But it was a crocious, so long winded way of
Speaker 3: saying RSL has found it's, you know, found itself on
Speaker 3: the side of really bad calls lately. But I don't know, man,
Speaker 3: Like the lunar thing was ridiculous, but like the last
Speaker 3: the last minute penalty call was the right call. So
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like you're you're kind of putting
Speaker 3: yourself up against it, and you know, if not for
Speaker 3: Rapa Cabral, that game's already done because he saved the
Speaker 3: penalty penalty earlier on. So one thing that can't be
Speaker 3: kind of understated though, it is like how bad this
Speaker 3: team is in the attack, Like they have the second
Speaker 3: or worst expected goal versus actuality stat in Major League Soccer,
Speaker 3: meaning x G versus actual measures the team's actual goal
Speaker 3: goal scored against the expected goal scored. A negative number
Speaker 3: is bad Spence and RSL is the second worst in
Speaker 3: the league at it. So I don't I don't know
Speaker 3: if this team has what it takes to make a
Speaker 3: playoff run at this point. The calendar is slimming as
Speaker 3: we speak, and nobody's really taking the bull by the
Speaker 3: horns of that position.
Speaker 2: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: We'll just be prepared to get a crying emoji tech
Speaker 1: from Trey after that breakdown, Christopher, just so you know,
Speaker 1: I want to find my moves the way Trey has
Speaker 1: found his to be as optimistic as you about something
Speaker 1: as he is about oursell There's no doubt. All right,
Speaker 1: young man, thank you so much for the time. Enjoy
Speaker 1: the rest of the week and we'll chat too. Appreciate you,
Speaker 1: Chris Cameronnie from the Athletic always appreciate his time. All right.
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