Speaker 1: The monsters living on the edge. They creep where the fens,
this fall, where.
Speaker 2: The moonlight paints the wall, hideen, where the trees grow tall.
You're hill and crawling through the trees, this train, Christmas
on the forest, breeze on the y where they breath
on the They never master slur for shadows.
Speaker 1: Please only let the mother morn.
Speaker 2: Where the doors they broom, sweet on the lake, where
the reeds the king. They're watching you as you walk
away the road still, where the dark beings, where a
Winney's song is too thick.
Speaker 1: Grill on the still away.
Speaker 2: Only they never master slater for shadows.
Speaker 3: Good morning, monsters, and welcome to this week's episode of
Monsters on the Edge. Here on the Untold Radio Network.
We are live and we have all the usual suspects
joining us today. We have Lee Warner in the comments,
Octopus with no friends, We're Wolf, there's a new one.
I haven't seen you before, h Flat rock Land and
Squatch Mama as well. All here. Good morning and thanks
for tuning in so we are live. If you have
questions or comments or our guest, put them in the
comments section. We will get to them as soon as
we can. Thank you. All for being here today. Coming
up this weekend, we are finally here. It is the
Contact Modalities Expo May first through the third in Delavan, Wisconsin.
Myself and fellow Untold radio co host Dean Bertram are
going to be speakers at this event as long as well,
not as long as well as a lot of former
guests on my show here and Dean's show, So lots
of people, a lot of cool stuff going on, something
for everyone at this event. Then, guys, the following weekend,
just two weeks away, it is also finally here the Cryptids,
Anomalies and Paranormal Convention Saturday, May ninth in Fondilac, Wisconsin.
We have over twenty speakers and workshops for your educational
needs and over forty vendors for your shopping can convenience.
Ken Gerhard Lee Hampl are going to be there. Laurence Smith,
Dustin Shootout, Jaeba Chochin. The list goes on and on. Also,
Christopher Duncan from Expedition Bigfoot, the remote viewer of that show,
is going to be there doing remote viewing workshop for people.
So a ton of great people. Head on over to
wisconscaps dot com click on the banner for that and
get the full list of all of them. We kick
it off Friday afternoon with a Kids Bigfoot Expedition. We
are going out in the woods to show you kids
how to stay safe, what to look for, and how
to track bigfoots and things like that. All the information
to get your kids started. For the more adventurous, we
also have a Nighttime Bigfoot Expedition. Laurence Smith, Chris and
myself along with Jaba Chochin, Ken Gerhard, Larry Eisler, and
Christina Bloom will be on the Nighttime Expedition. Christina is
going to be trying to channel a Bigfoot, so that's
going to be really fun and exciting. Then guys, we
head down to the Paranormal Chicago Convention June thirteenth in Countryside, Illinois.
One dollar admission, free parking. You can't beat that. Then
we will be at the Brownsville Public Library June seventeenth,
the Cedarburg Public Library July twenty second, Potographs Packerland Paranormal
Conference September twenty sixth in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Ryo Community
Library in Wisconsin, and finally the Belleville Community Library in October.
There we go all right, guys, Well, thank you all
for tuning. As I said earlier, we are live, so
let's get to our guest. My guest returning to the
show here is Daryl Denton. He is known by many
as the Tennessee bigfoot Man. He had his first terrifying
encounter while deer hunting in November of nineteen ninety two,
which changed his life forever. He had his second encounter
in nineteen ninety nine while fishing that forest of the
family of forest people became his friends. He has had
many encounters since then with these creatures and the dog
Man as well. Daryl mainly researches in the land between
the Lakes area now with his team Martin Groves, Barton
Nunley and now Ron Morehead. He is the founder of
the Facebook group Bigfoot Believers and Other Creatures. He has
been a guest on many podcast shows as well as
this one, radio shows, documentaries, and a speaker at many conferences,
and he is currently writing a book, so we'll have
to get more in for on that. Ladies and gentlemen,
please welcome back to the show Darryl Thenton. Darryl, how's
it going?
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me. Give me an hour of
your time. I apttreciate. I'd honored to be here.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: We talked before the show, and I have been trying
to get you back on the show to clear up
some stuff and not to disparage anyone. That's not what
we're here for. But I had a guest on about
two months ago by the name of Ethan Oates, and
this man has some amazing stories. He went off to
this island and saw giants and saw giants, skulls and
all these weird creatures that he got pictures of. And
he actually says that he found a pyramid here in
the United States. And when he was on the show,
he said that he had evidence and all this of
this stuff and was working on a documentary with you
and Martin and your team, and so these tall tales.
Absolutely fabulous storyteller, and we were just interested. A lot
of my listeners and stuff were like, well, if you
have photographs of this stuff, we want to see it.
And he said, oh, we can't show the photographs. Well,
all this will come out in the documentary, and he did.
After this couple days after he was on my show,
he actually released a photograph I showed you before the show.
So this photo is supposed to have been taken in
the LBL. It shows what possibly could be a pyramid
back in the woods. And it's just one picture, that's
all it is. But that was a very interesting episode
and now a very interesting photograph. So my listeners are
very curious to find out how you got involved with
this and if you have seen any pictures that he
have supposedly sent you, and what your reaction to all
that is.
Speaker 4: Well, I was contacted by Ethan Arts last year sometime,
I don't recall exact date, and he asked me, we're
not cut running called or was that Darryl Denton? And
I said yes, and I said you're the one they
called the Big thut Man and I said yes, and
he said, would you do an expedition with me? And
I never heard of Ethan Arts, And of course I'm
always running to help out or do whatever I can
to prove the existence of these creatures and also to
go into the area where they're at if I can.
Speaker 5: And you know he's since then this thing has come apart.
Speaker 4: You know, he wanted us to do an expedition, and
I don't do expeditions without my team and I told
him that, and as you mentioned, my team at this
particular time as Martin Grows, run Morehead and Mike Smith,
and he was okay with that. And we supposedly had
a large funding to do an expedition into an area
of the lb Ale and that was one of the
main reasons he reached out to me because he knew
that I had some areas along with my team Martin Groves.
Some of his areas are for some of the best
and Martin only has some great areas in there, so
to Mike Smith, but I have some areas in their
area twenty three.
Speaker 5: We recall it.
Speaker 4: That's an area I wouldn't take just anybody and Maine
just our team goes in there because we kind of
watch each other's back.
Speaker 5: But you know, he told us what he wanted us
to do.
Speaker 4: And he had a producer that was gonna film it all,
and he was going to provide all the funding for
and the capital to make this documentary. And I guess
my question was, you know, what do you have? And
he knew that that Martin Grows and myself and Martin
and Mike and all of us that had some type
of experience in there. I've had quite a few of
them myself, and so is Martin. He and I've been
researching that area over thirty years and been going in
there since I was a little child, but not researching,
just mainly the last thirty years with my team. And he.
Speaker 5: Wanted us to do the documentary.
Speaker 4: And he started sending me pictures of what he had
what I understood come from what some type of special
app he had.
Speaker 5: From Google Earth. And uh, some of those pictures look
pretty real.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I'm not familiar with myself with
exactly how Google Earth works. I'm not a computer tech guy,
and by some of what he showed him, some of
the pictures it looked pretty real. Some of it did,
and uh, some of it looked far fetched, but it
wasn't anything I felt like he made up. He was
pulling this off of some type of app that he
called something Google Earth. And uh, this went on for
three or four months, you know, building up for this
expedition thing, and we were all in and you know,
we're ready to go.
Speaker 5: If he's got someplace that he's found all this stuff,
we'll go in.
Speaker 4: Just provide the equipment and what we need, and uh,
you know, security and a place for us to stay,
and we're there, so we were kind of geared up
to go in there. Now, these pictures of pyramids that
he sent me, they did look like pyramids. I've never
seen a pyramid, and they'll be al. And I've been
going in there a long time, and there's there's plenty
of places I've never been, because you're talking about one
hundred and seventy thousand acres and they'll be a one
and i haven't been all over it, but I've never
seen a pyramid, and they'll be ale. There are things there,
I believe called furnace towers that were used during the
Civil War era that where they built different type things,
you know, quality metal equipment, maybe maybe cannons or whatever
they made with them. But some of these towers I'm
in told are kind of large and are still out
in the forest there and may look like a pyramid.
I don't know. I've never seen one of those. But
what he showed us and what he sent us, you know,
some of it looked pretty legit. And I'm pretty much
familiar with how some of these creatures have the ability
to go interdimensional or have a higher vibration than we
do and transform themselves into something that's hard to see
or even to a different type of matter that can
possibly do. So that's pretty much what I knew about Ethan.
I didn't know much about him. We kind of checked
him out a little bit. Ron and I did Martin
and I did Mike and I did We did some
interviews with him and had a producer call us. He
said he was a producer. He called us a couple
of times. We had three way conversations with him. It
all see ond I legitimate. Well, we had a gentleman
that was finding us I believe, one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars and was willing to pay more if we
located pyramids. And you know, I was all in, I'll
go in there for as pyramids. There's pyramids, but I've
never personally seen Roe, but I hope there is. I'll
be glad to look at it. But and he had
pictures of creatures that looked to be creatures around these structures. So, uh,
you know, I don't know if you've ever looked at
a Google Earth thing. I've only seen one, I think
one time before he showed me this one. And you know,
some of that stuff looks a little as it's not
as detailed as you like it to be because it's
taken from a you know, a high density area and
you can't tell the exact shape or what it is.
But some of those things look definitely looked like creatures.
So and I don't think that he was misleading us
on what he had. Unfortunately, the exhibition work out, the
funding fell through, and.
Speaker 5: I don't really know what all went on.
Speaker 4: I just know that it all fell through, and uh,
you know, we kept asking we needed funds to put
this thing together because we had lined up for horses,
we had lined up for cabins to stay in at
good distance from there, camping equipment, pack pack equipment. There
was a lot of expense involving all of it, plus
a security team of two or three people to go
with us because you know, you're really not allowed to
carry weapons in they'll be they as far as handguns
or rifles or that type of thing, and we try
to abide by the rules there and not you know,
it's not a safe place to go by yourself at
all times. But you know, we were trying to hire
certified people to go in there, which would legally be
able to carry the weapon in case we needed that.
We don't want to harm any creature or try to
shoot any of them, but it was more of a
self defense matter in the case they tried to attack us.
So by what he was telling this, you know, you go,
We're riding into a village on horseback with sevear eight
people and there's these numerous amount of creatures, you know,
thirty forty fifty creatures. I don't know if they're going
to come out in high five of us or they're
going to or attack us. I've never been in a
situation like that, so I don't know how legitimate it was.
We never got to go, and what I'm saying looked possible.
You know. It's like I said, none of these pictures
were detailed.
Speaker 5: To a normal picture.
Speaker 4: There were a Google Earth type picture as hard to
explain unless you've looked at one of those.
Speaker 5: And he claims that there were pyramids.
Speaker 4: Maybe there is a pyramid. I've been in the LBL
for a long time. I've never seen a pyramid.
Speaker 3: That's really interesting. I mean, like, you know, like you said,
it didn't work out and stuff, but it seems like
you know, when you're looking again with the satellite imagery
and stuff like that, there's there isn't a lot of
detail that you can get. It's pretty clear. I mean
like Google Earth can get down there pretty good. But
you know, if you're looking through jungle or you know,
what have you. And how how big is the LBL,
I know, it's pretty massive.
Speaker 4: Well, it's one hundred and seventy thousand acres and then
you've got land outside the lba Al that's not inside.
A lot of people think it's a national park. It's
not a national park. It's run by the US Forthry Services.
At one time it was, but the US for Truth
Services took it over. I don't know how many years
ago it was. And those people are real nice down there,
and we don't had any trouble out of them. And
you know, we we try to abide by the rooms
and at the same time we try to find evidence
there and then and we've seen a lot of creatures
there over the years. So there's a lot of weird
stuff in the lb ALE. And it's like I said earlier,
you know, you can you may go to the LBL
seven or eight times and not see anything and not
have anything happen to you, and then you may go
that one time and you won't go back. So, uh,
you know, most of the biggest thing about the lb
AL is when the lights go out at night, it's
a different place.
Speaker 5: It's it's like going into a different world.
Speaker 4: So I've seen some of the strangest things in my
lifetime in the LBAL, and some of it's really unexplainable.
Speaker 3: I would love to get into that. Let me ask
you this, because this is the second time I've heard
this week. Why can't you carry a weapon in there?
Speaker 4: Well, you can only carry a weapon what we're told
if it's you know, hunting season, deer season, kyouty season
was actually when we when we were supposed to go
in on this expedition, it was supposed to have been
middle of February, first of March, and that was Coyoti says,
So we could carry a riffles to shoot kyoties as
long as.
Speaker 5: We had a permanent from the park that we were
coyote hunting or we were.
Speaker 4: Looking for coyotes, and that's what we had legally planned
to do, just to have a little protection. Now you're
not going to stop one of these wild creatures that
he said was in there with with a you know,
a twenty two rifles. So you know, it's it's just
the way the rules are though, you know Martin, I
mean Martin unny car is a big blade. A lot
of people don't carry weapons. I just haven't concealed and
I don't they happened to you. You got caught ut
with a weapon in there or not.
Speaker 5: I guess it depends on who answers you and what
you're doing.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're sitting in your truck and you've
got a weapon in your glove box, I don't know
that they'd go crazy.
Speaker 5: But if you're sitting there with.
Speaker 4: You know, with a three fifty seven land in your
seat and some type of hot powered rifle, they are
not being any type of season and you were no permit,
you may get in some type of serious trouble. I
don't really know.
Speaker 5: I've never had an experience that, but but it is.
Speaker 4: They don't want people carrying weapons in there.
Speaker 3: I have a question for you. I'm trying to read
it while I was sitting here. Have octuposed with no friends?
Would like to know have you ever seen any trees
in the LBL glowing he's seen a couple with a
slight bluish glow when no others in the area had that.
Speaker 5: I have seen some trees glowing.
Speaker 4: Yes. Over the years, I've seen hundreds and hundreds of orbs,
I mean big orbs, little orbs, different colored orbs. I
have seen a few trees kind of glowing. I don't
remember them being blue. I remember them being red, but
and there could have been a blue. And we've seen
a lot of wild stuff in there over the years.
I've even seen a cylinder like thing floating in the air.
There was very strange, maybe ten foot off the ground.
Speaker 5: So I don't know. I do believe that.
Speaker 4: These creatures have a higher vibration. I'm talking about Bigfoot
and possibly dog Man, and they are able to possibly
even be into another dimension that we can't see.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I think I don't know where they
say we can.
Speaker 4: Do three dimensions, and I'm not sure any dimensions are
out there. But I know dogs can see out of
that dimension, and maybe that has something to do with it.
Speaker 5: I do think there's.
Speaker 4: Portals in the LBL. I think there's portals that portals
a lot of places.
Speaker 5: Not just the lb ALE. I have seen what I
believe to be a portal several times.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of weird strangeness in there.
I just said, you may go. I know, people spend
going their all their life and they've never seen nothing.
But then again, there are also the people that are
unloading their boat right off the ramp there, and they're
going out fishing and coming back.
Speaker 5: Loading their boat.
Speaker 4: They're not the ones camping deep in the woods where
we go, or or all some trail you know where
the supposedly eighty two massacre happened. And you know in
that area that we're in areas that normal people don't go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's always a key point there. People are like,
well I've been in there a hundred times and never
seen anything. Yeah, you drove through on the road, good job, Yeah,
but not never cross that road okay, yeah cool.
Speaker 4: You know, surprisingly we've had a lot of experiences driving
on the road. There's one road he goes through there.
It's called the Parkway and it goes from north to
south and you know, at nighttime, you may not see
another car on the Parkway for seven eight hours. It's
just dead. And we've seen several animals off of the
Parkway driving through there at night. We occasionally do that,
ride the roads and see what we can see on
the side of the roads, and we've seen some pretty
strange looking creatures off the highway.
Speaker 3: Well, let's get into this. So you've mentioned dog Man
and Bigfoot, but you say strange creatures. So is there
other things that you've seen in there?
Speaker 4: Well, and then let's see March of twenty twenty four,
Martin Groves was dry then I was behind him in
the on the his driver's side in the back seat.
Rod Moorehead was in the front seat and Martin Innley
was next to me in the pastor seat behind Ryan.
And we're riding down the parkway and we running, I
don't know, forty five fifty mile an hour or whatever
the speeding it is through there.
Speaker 5: And then it's probably eleven o'clock at night.
Speaker 4: And when it's dark in the LBA or you can
stick your hand out, you can't even see your hand
it's dark. And with the spotlight, i mean the headlights
kissed this creature on the side of the road and
I tell Martin, slow down, slow down, plowing down. I'm
hitting on the back of the seat and he says,
I see it. I see it, and we stop. We
went by, and we backed up, and it was a
creature on the side of the road. It looked like
it was about the size of a grizzly bear.
Speaker 5: It was big like that.
Speaker 4: It was setting on its bottom, but it had the
head of an ant eater. And I've never seen anything
like that. And and by the time we backed up,
I had my camera out trying to get a shot
at it. And it's seen us and took off running
down the hillside behind the road there. And but two
or three I have seen it, and Martin seen it,
and I seen it. I think Ryan seen it. I'm
not sure that that Martin did, because he was hard
for him to see from the angle he was that.
But that was that. That was the creature I've never
seen before. I have no idea what it was. I
don't I've never even heard of anything like that.
Speaker 3: Well, well, there's a creature the tuttle Lakettle tuttle Bottoms monster,
I think in Illinois, and that's supposed to be like
a big giant anteater, like you know, eight feet tall.
Speaker 5: I've actually heard about that creature after i'd seen this.
Now I'm talking. Sorry. Yeah, After I'd seen this creature,
I had talked.
Speaker 4: To Shale Dion, who lives in I don't know way,
and she's had a lot of great experiences with creatures
in her area and she's a really great researcher, and
she had seen something similar to when I sang in
the swamps.
Speaker 5: Hmm, that's great.
Speaker 3: My my favorite animal is the giant anteur. So anybody
that knows that you know from from the show and
stuff here, but that that's my favorite animal. So I
was really interested when I stumbled across the Tuttle Bottoms monster.
I was like, if something's out there, I want to
go find that. So that's interesting. I wonder, like there's
no like trying to think how far giant editors come.
I don't think they come up into like Mexico and stuff.
I think they're all more south so to have I'm really.
Speaker 4: Not familiar with anything like that being in the area
where And I know that our Tennessee Kentucky area is
what I'm talking about, the lb als Tennessee and Kentucky.
And you know, I don't think not the only thing
we've got that's come from the Southwest that I'm aware
of over the last ten years is there's a lot
of armadillas where they didn't used to be, so you know,
that's about the only one that I'm aware of that's
moved into our territory.
Speaker 3: And even even giant anteaters, they're the largest of the
antier species like currently alive, and they're a little bit
like a large dog. They're not They're not a grizzly
bear size. They're not that big.
Speaker 5: So oh yeah, this time was huge.
Speaker 4: They were just segar was huge and the head was,
like I said, it looked like an antate or top
heads or to look like.
Speaker 5: So it was very strange. I've never seen another one,
and that's the only one. I said.
Speaker 4: I wish I could have gotten a good photograph of
that one, but.
Speaker 5: It was just too hard.
Speaker 3: Let this be a reminder to all of you out
there that you should all have dash cams.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 3: I want to keep going on weird creatures, but we
got a question here. How much food do you think
a bigfoot would need? If it's eight hundred pounds in a.
Speaker 4: Day, you know, I think bigfoot is probably I know
it's going to have a sustainable you know amount of
food because of the size. I don't disagree with that
part of it. But I also think there are a
lot like a lot of other animals. I'm sure they
don't eat every day. I'm sure they've gone for one
big keel and probably feed on that and just find
their way until another keel comes. But I wouldn't know
the size of meal to tell someone. But I've seen
deer in the woods that big fit. We have a
place in Cheatham County, Tendency. We did have, and I
haven't been there quite a while, but we had a
place called the Killing Fields there, and there were probably
at least seven or eight deer carcasses stacked on top
of each other out in the middle of the woods
where a funnel came together, and there was like a
blind A bunch of stumps and logs and stuff are
piled up round the corner of the game trail where
they all criss crossed close to the clost to the
water of the coming river.
Speaker 5: And that's where all those deer carcasses were piled up.
Speaker 4: And what I believe is that the bigfoot eats deer
differently than people think they do. The ones I've seen
that I believe the bigfoot was eat that way, They
punch a hole in the side of the skin, riding
the bottom part of the chest cavity close to the heart.
They reach in and they eat the heart and the
lungs and all the soft tissues. And they will eat
the tongue. They'll pull the tongue out and eat it.
And also in the summertime when it's hot, I have
seen the eyes go. So the rest of the caucass
is either given to the rest of the family or
left there for other scavengers. I know that hundred percent
positive that the colodies hunt with some of the coldies,
not all of them, but some of them hunt with
the big foot.
Speaker 3: Interesting, what let me see, like what what do you think?
What do you see as far as like these kill sites,
you know, like with with canines and stuff, they tend
to pull it and drag the carcass out like that.
Do you see that kind of what does the kill
site actually look like or that where they're they're feeding.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean what we've seen in this particular area,
and there was aggressive a big foot family that lived
in that area.
Speaker 5: We we actually, uh we tried to be freeing those that.
Speaker 4: Was two thousand, twenty seventeen or eighteen, and that went
on to probably about the middle of two thousand two,
and uh, you know, there was a female with a
juvenile that was pretty friendly with us.
Speaker 5: As a matter of.
Speaker 4: Fact, a juvenile walked up, looked in the looked looked.
Speaker 5: At me one time.
Speaker 4: So that area is really really just overpopulated with these creatures.
There's a lot of them there, and I think that
the keel side that I've never seen a bigfoot eating
a deer. So I can't sit here and tell you
everything I don't know, but I do know that particular
area that the more aggressive bigfoot seemed to be a
little different than the bigfoot that I befriended on the
river back in ninety nine. They were more real, easy
going type. They were very trustworthy of me after I
built my trust with them, and they weren't aggressive at all.
They were very alert if you would have tried to
harm one of them and they felt like you were
a bad person. I have no doubt these creatures can
feel your ability of what you're there for.
Speaker 5: If you if you're there.
Speaker 4: To harm them, or you have a bad vibe about you,
they can pick up on it and and they're not
going to allow you into their area.
Speaker 5: They're gonna run you out of there.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And if you don't know, they're gonna hurt you.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's hard for me to say exactly,
but I know that we we we heard coldies running
a deer down on the hillside very close to where
this keel side is. And we had a fleer that night,
and these colties were running from a long way. We
heard them from out hundreds of yards off as they
were running in a bottom and it was a field
in the bottom. It was kind of like a bottleneck
between two sides of woods. And we watched these deer.
We watched these colodies with a fleer take down a deer,
and it did take down a deer. And I was
on the other side of a big, huge tree. And
a friend of mine that researched with me at that
time and it's still researches that area. He got the
flear on the deer better than I did. But when
the cold you take it down, they're out all of
a sudden, just disband and run off in different directions.
And he witnessed a bigfoot come down out of the
woods and picked the deer up and run off with it.
So I know that they hunt with them, and I
think that they for some reason, they have a friend
of these creatures, you know, somehow, and the crows work
with them. They let you know when when somebody's coming
in the woods, they let the Bigfoot know.
Speaker 5: They go crazy.
Speaker 4: I know that to be true because I've been in
the area that had Bigfoot and somebody would come in
and I would hear them going crazy letting them know.
And animals all tend to work together because they you know,
these you know, I believe I still call him the
chai Tanka, which is a Native American word and that
means uh great later watcher of the forest. That's what
the American lew to say. Kyle the big for it.
There's the keeper, the watcher of the forest. He is
the alpha. We're not the alpha out there. He is
and when you go into his home you better respect it.
Speaker 3: Absolutely for anybody that's listening. As I said, Darryl has
been on the show before, and you you talked about
your your two first encounters. So we not that I'm
avoiding him or anything, but we've we've already kind of
covered down the other show, So I highly recommend people
go check that out as well, because you kind of
alluded to some of the stuff there.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 3: Well no, no, it's fine, Yeah, very good man. I
just didn't want anyone to feel like we were like, oh, well,
why aren't we talking about that, because we already did. Yeah,
that was on the first episode, So go back and
listen to that one. You know, you should listen go
the Ball. But anyway, yeah, I was thinking about the
whole you know, how much do they eat and stuff,
you know, your calorie counting that, you know, and if
you look at like these other large animals, like let's
let's take a horse for example, Like these things. We
don't know a lot about bigfoot, right, but you know,
horses are very active. They run, you know, they're they're
out in the field and stuff. They're going to probably
need a lot more calories then bigfoots might because if
they're just living out in the woods, they don't need
to you know, run and chase things or do much.
They could get away with a lot fewer calories and
just kind of live a more relaxed life. What do
you think about that?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, yeah, I don't think that big thoat
has to have a substantial amount of faid a lot
of paper wood. I thinks that they probably. I thinks
it's like probably, Well, I know for a fact they
eat plants too. It's not just meat. They're plantators and
they'll eat they'll eat just about anything. They'll eat roots
in the ground. They love fish any anytime you find
a population of bigfoot, especially a clan or a family,
most of the time there's two or three families in
that area and don't mark their territory very strictly. They
don't want other these other creatures in their territory. And
you'll find clamshales broken, You'll find fish. They feed on
that too. There's all kinds of things they feed on
besides just deer. But I'd say in North America they're
they're number one meal is probably deer and wild hogs.
But as far as the nutrition value, I think they
probably have a different type of stomach than we do too.
They're they're they're set up a little different than we are,
and maybe the stomach acids seem to keep that food
a little longer than it would us.
Speaker 3: Well, we've gone down this whole food thing. Uh a
sidetrack here because question. But so we talked about the
giant answer creature thing and big footing dog man. Have
you seen any other weird creatures roaming around down there?
Speaker 5: I actually I've seen I've seen.
Speaker 4: Some of these creatures are so fast that it's hard
to tell what you're seeing, even big foots fast. If
you've ever seen a bigfoot run, and I have a
couple of times, it's a blur.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can't even tell exactly what it is.
Speaker 4: I'm sure dog man may be the same way. I've
seen bits and pieces of several dog men in the
brush and then they would run off and you wouldn't
see them. But we did see what we well some
people call a rake or a crawler there. In twenty
twenty four, Martin Andley and Martin Groves and myself, I
was in lead on the trail. It's a trail out
in the middle of nowhere that our camp round is
closed down there because very strange when they closed down
a campground like that, But they did. And it was
a large campground even had a store in it. It
had basketball courts, kennys courts. I don't know how many
r v sides a bait shop, and they closed it
down just and you know, supposedly they had problems with
the bridge going into that area, and.
Speaker 5: We don't believe that at all.
Speaker 4: We think there was probably a couple of either attacks
or somebody scared to death in there because there were
some creatures in there, and that's worth while they probably
decided to do that.
Speaker 5: But anyway, it was very close to this area.
Speaker 4: It was a trail that goes back into a pretty
deep area of the forest.
Speaker 5: And we're walking on the trail.
Speaker 4: I'm ahead of Martin and Barton, and we've got these
real bright flashlights, all three of us, that shine a
long way, and I see something running in the woods
and I couldn't understand what it was and it was
a humanoid looking creature and it ran up a tree
right in front of me, a big tree, just ran
up it like a squirrel. It was crazy like it
just I had just ran right up and it was
it was like a humanoid looking parson. It was like
a parson, but it was so skinny that it's hard
to even explain. And there was a whitish gray color
and it ran all up to the top of the tree.
Speaker 5: And I was walking around the.
Speaker 4: Tree shining my lighting the top and all the leaves
were off the trees. I was trying to get a
good a good view of it, and I got a
pretty good view a couple of times, and Sardy Martin Groves,
he was he heard me yelling that.
Speaker 5: There was something down here and this thing was on
the top of the tree.
Speaker 4: It was making a click ignorance like click, like three
or four times, and then something on the hill over
behind them was clicking back like it was communicating with
some other.
Speaker 5: Or maybe another one of those things. And I don't
know what it was.
Speaker 4: I would call it a rake or a crawler, and
they that's what it looked like in pictures I've seen.
I've never that was my first time I'd ever seen
one of those. And we hung around long enough and
it sounded like several more and more kind thing to
rescue this one, and we thought it was kind of
the best for us to get out.
Speaker 5: Of there, and we did.
Speaker 3: Interesting Native Trenker says, they click because they live in caves.
Speaker 5: That's good to know.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that it could be kind of echo
location like bats or something like sonar.
Speaker 4: And that very strange looking creature. I've never seen one.
And how fast it was. I mean, I'm talking about
so fast they went up that tree like it had clouds,
like a squirrel. But and it just looked like a
a bag of bones with skin on them. So it's
very strange. I don't care to ever see another one.
Speaker 3: Interesting. I don't blame you. A question for you, Judy
Wheeler says Darryl. Have you ever heard drum beats when
you're out in the woods.
Speaker 5: Well I have, Yes, I have, and.
Speaker 4: I have kind of a strange thing with drum beats. Yeah,
I have heard drumbeats a few times, well quite a
few times.
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard any of the other stuff, like
the like well you're friends with Ron moorehead, you know
the whole like car door slamming or the weird car
sounds and stuff like that that people.
Speaker 4: You know, I've heard. I've heard some things in the woods.
And I'm talking about when I say in the woods,
it's not locked right off the path or or right
behind your campsite. I'm talking about maybe six seven miles
in where there was nothing. There's nothing out there, there's
no cars. I've heard cows moving I've heard what sounded
like a car door shutting. I've heard some weird things.
Now Martin has heard like one of those big dumpster
doors shutting, like like you've heard people say they've heard when,
you know, when around these strange creatures. I've never heard that,
but it's I've heard some really strange things. And uh,
it sounds like children laughing and playing.
Speaker 5: I've heard that.
Speaker 3: Have you ever native track? Have you ever heard your
name being called when you're out in the woods by anything?
Speaker 4: No, but I've heard I've never heard my name being called,
But I have heard help help quite a few times
in different locations. When the last time I heard that
was in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, deep in
the Shannandoa National Forest. And uh, I actually got lost
back in there for a couple of days and I
heard that help And yeah, I don't I don't think
it was a person.
Speaker 5: I think it was.
Speaker 4: You know, these creatures have a real weird way. They
can mimic people. I know, Big for it's very good
at mimicing people. And you know, you can hear if
so many people think they're listening to a owl when
they're listening to a big for it, because they can
mimic a owl as good as anything. And and they're
good at other creatures too, crows, squirrels, they can do
a lot of things to mimic people.
Speaker 5: They can are the ones I was on with the
river that I spent nearly five years with.
Speaker 4: When I would leave, I would say bye, I see
y'all tomorrow or the next day, because I was there
every day or every other day to visit those my
family on the river, and they would all say bye,
bye bye. I hear a different locations, and you know,
they can mimic people. And I think what I heard
was probably a bigfoot had heard a cow, and it
probably mimicked the cow, I guess.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just using this. I don't know that,
but it's possibility.
Speaker 4: So but I've heard a lot of things in the
woods in the mimber not some of them make no sense,
and I have no reason why they would even be making.
Speaker 5: That kind of sound. But I haven't never heard my
name called out to me.
Speaker 3: Know that's probably for the best. I had heard the
coolest one that I've ever heard talking about mimicking stuff.
I had a guest on that had a an audio
of a bigfoot mimicking a train. Wow, and that one
was really that one was really cool.
Speaker 5: So I'd like to hear that one that sounds really cool.
Speaker 3: That was that was cool. I have I have another
question here for I don't really understand it, so I'm
going to ask it says, what does bigfoots mean of convenience?
I don't know what you mean by that, but it's
putting in all caps as a question, So if you
could clarify that, we'll try and get an answer.
Speaker 5: For you on that.
Speaker 3: I don't know what a means of convenience is. How
do they travel? Like? I don't know, like you mentioned
maybe like portals or interdimensional things or something, but uh,
I don't know. I don't know what a mean of
convenience is. I would like to know, have you You've
done a lot of research into the LBL, of course,
and that do you know any of the like the
the earthly history of the place. Do you know like
with a lot of these locations we talk about them
being high in like quartz crystals, like under the ground,
or like some sites are have a lot of weird activity,
have had an asteroid or something impact there? Do you
know of anything like like that in this area, like
high courts or asteroid.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anything like that in the LBL.
And I've been asked that Beforewark. You know, the LBL
has very range history. Back before it was called the
Land between the Lakes, it was called uh. There were
several names that that it was called. And I don't
know all the original names. I've heard them and I've
read about them, but it was called uh the land
between the two rivers, the land between two rivers for
a long time, and when they combined, even in the
seven late seventeen hundreds, when the French settlers were in
that area and the American natives are in that area,
there were dog man attacks back then. There's there's there's
there's a history of of animals being attacked by dog
man type creatures. I'm not sure people, but I know
there were animals and they had seen those creatures there
and they called it the rugaroo, which the French called
steel today, and especially even in New Orleans, they called
that creature of the rugaroo. So and then it goes
on down through history of these creatures being there and
when they flooded that place, Tennessee Valley Authority. A lot
of those families had lived there for hundreds of years,
had been passed down through the generations, their farms and
their land, and the people didn't want to move. A
lot of them didn't, and tv A just took it.
They flooded them. They were just they were standing there
at their house and the water started rising.
Speaker 5: They would leave.
Speaker 4: And there's complete towns and even a high school under
the water. And I don't know how many cemeteries are
under there. And there's been a lot of stories about
even a sea serpent being there. I've never seen it,
but I've heard about it.
Speaker 5: And there's.
Speaker 4: Stories of these of it being a bloody ground due
to the fact of so many of the people, the
homestanders that lived there at that time, thought to the
daft to keep their homes and they were killed and
everything else.
Speaker 5: Because you know, the.
Speaker 4: Tennessee Valley Authority had the right to turn that into
uh a large lake which is Kentucky Lake now, which
was fed by the Common River and fed by by
the Tennessee River to produce electricity for that. That was
the reason that they built the lake there itself. And
but you go back to the history. There's a lot
of people that think there's so many grays underwater that
has a lot to do with it. There's a lot
of bad stuff up there that there'll be all and
I don't know if any of it has anything to
do with any of that, but it pretty much makes
sense that a lot of stuff it's went on there
was natural at one time, that it even got worse
after the lake was fomed.
Speaker 3: Interesting, is there any lake like that? Area has a
lot of like cave systems down there.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of caves in there, and I wouldn't
say a lot, but there's quite a few caves in
certain areas. Now Unrussia one of the guys that gets
out and goes deep into the woods and a lot
of research and exploring, you're not going to know where
those caves are because they're not close by near a campground.
Speaker 5: So there's a couple. There's a lot of.
Speaker 4: Campgrounds still in there, not as many as there were
because there's a lot of them have been closed down
for some reason or another.
Speaker 5: But you know, the south end.
Speaker 4: Seems to have less activity than the north end does.
The north end seems to have more activity, especially with
dog Man and the south end used to be just
mainly big for it, but now they're seeing both creatures
in both areas. They've kind of spread out and they
seem to be more together than they ever were before.
And you know, if anybody goes to lb Ale, you
need to know where you're going and where you don't
need to go. So don't be going into areas and
being a brave soul and pitching of tin up out
in the middle of nowhere land. Because you can go
into the LBL and there's so many roads that go
in there and go to the left and the right.
There's dirt roads, grab roads, there's roads that go forever
back in there, and if you don't know where you're at,
you can get lost and pay don't going to start,
you know, just go out in the area and start
camping in the area and not knowing where you're at,
it's not very safe.
Speaker 5: And I would suggest if I was had a print
of want.
Speaker 4: To go to LBL, I would tell him to go
to Hillman's Ferry Campground. We have our get togethers that
are quite often. It's a safe campground and you never
hard to hear of anything happening around. It has bath houses,
plenty of campground, a store inside. It's a real safe
area that's on the north end, not too far from
Grand Rivers.
Speaker 3: You're you said that you knew Judy Wheeler, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Judy's real sweet. She's in my group, and I
think about.
Speaker 3: Over Judy needs to go back and rewatch the beginning
of the show. She says, Oh, I've heard there are
pyramids in the LBL. Don't know if they're underwater or
question mark. So, Judy, I think you need to go
back and start at the beginning of this show because
there's your answer to that. So very very good. We wait,
we have so many I'm trying to keep up out
on all the comments and stuff here. I think I've
got to the questions, so I think the rest of
us just some comments. Guy says that his friend has
crawlers on his property and they're kind of discussing that.
I know you're on a phone, so I don't think
you can see all the stuff going over here. So no,
I'm sorry, all right, but a lot of that, but
very cool. If you guys do we are coming up
on the end of the show here, we got about
ten minutes left. If you have any questions for Daryl
about the LBL dog Man, bigfoot, any stuff in that area,
or anything in general for him as well. Throw him
in the comments and we'll get to him before we
wrap up here. You've mentioned a couple other things like
the cylinder thing that you saw and the orbs and that.
Have you seen any other weird objects or UFOs or
what's what's the most weird stuff like that that you've
seen there?
Speaker 4: Well, I've seen the orbs many a time, and I
had we had probably probably about twelve people with us tonight.
We've seen all the orbs I mentioned a minute of day.
There was just a humandous I've never seen that many
in one night.
Speaker 3: And that's eyes, not a camera, right.
Speaker 5: This was with eyes.
Speaker 4: Yes, everybody's seen it themselves, and it was pretty crazy.
And even had a couple of bigfoot that ran through
that area that night and scared a couple of people
where we were in a very back of a real
remote peak area and they were just everywhere. And a
lady that was with us, I said, brought one of
those singing bowls. Have you ever seen those things? It's
a bone and you take this little thing, and I'd
never seen one. She brought one of those and maybe
that had something to do with it. She had it working,
and we had all kinds of stuff going on that night.
Speaker 5: But the weirdest thing I've ever seen the lb AL.
Speaker 4: It's a long story that I'll make it short because
we're almost out of time. And we Barton Nunley, myself,
Ron Moorehead and Elijah Henderson.
Speaker 5: And I'm sorry Ron wasn't there. It was Martin Groves,
Martin Nunley.
Speaker 4: Elijah Henderson and myself were sitting at camp a camp
in the in the base camp. This was in Humans
Ferry that when I just mentioned a minute ago, where
you can go and have a good time and you'd
have to worry about a lot of action. The just
don't seem to be much in that area. It's a
real nice campground. And uh, we had two other teams
that went out that night. We were all gonna go out.
There's gonna be one team go out, another team go out.
And when I say, they were going out in a
vehicle to a certain area that we had seen things
and see what they can see.
Speaker 5: So all four of us were in base camp with
a fire going and.
Speaker 4: Martin Unley's wife, Letitia, and two other ladies I thank
Ana Kay with Jones went out in their vehicle to
a certain area that we had seen things.
Speaker 5: Before, and another guy.
Speaker 4: Out in a certain area with Elijah and Gabby, Elijah's
sister went with him. And we're sitting at camp and
the moon is huge that night, it's yellow. All of
a sudden, the moon turns orange, almost blood orange, out
of nowhere for just so strange I changed. This went
on for about an hour and we get a call
from Matt who's with a and Jabby. They're riding down
probably ten miles from us, to an area where they'd
seen some creatures, and they're telling us men, there's hundreds
of snakes crossing the road.
Speaker 5: They're just crawling across the road.
Speaker 4: And there's deer, just numerous deer running across the road
as fast as they can. They had just stopped there
were so many snakes and deer crossing the road. And
then we get a call. Then they get a call
from Martin's wife, Letitia, and they've had to stop in
the middle road because a mouth man creature had landed
in front of the car that wasn't the same height
as the seven six foot mouthman that I've seen at
the area in West Virginia was smaller than that, but
it looked just like that creature, and they were scared
to death. They were just standing in front of the
car and it wouldn't move, and uh, all of a
sudden it took off, and all of a sudden, these
they going down the road. They turned around, came back.
Letitia and Martin Umby's wife and the two ladies did well.
Speaker 5: Matt and Gabby and Elijah Henderson.
Speaker 4: Go through this area where these snakes and deer just
crossing and about to turn around.
Speaker 5: They see a dog man run across.
Speaker 4: The road on his fingers like it a spider crawling,
and they turn around and come back, and they all
come to the camp and we're.
Speaker 5: All sitting there.
Speaker 4: Of course we haven't seen anything. We're just sitting there.
But the moon turned red.
Speaker 5: It was weird.
Speaker 4: And by the time we got up to leave, the
moon turned back to the color it was. And everybody
witnessed this moon changed color. So it just wouldn't me.
And we know we weren't drinking and we weren't doing
any drugs, but that really happened.
Speaker 5: That was probably the strangest thing that I've ever seen
over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding. I mean, so was it like, was
it like a blood moon or was it supposed to
there's there's.
Speaker 5: It's kind of It was just a regular moon. It
was a full moon. It was real bright.
Speaker 4: And we're sitting around the campfire, all of me, Martin
and Martin because we're going out next when they come back.
Speaker 5: We wanted to leave somebody at the camp you know,
we want to just leave. So, uh, then we go out.
We don't see anything.
Speaker 4: As matter of fact, that Elijah Henderson went with us
and he blew what he calls the Aztec death whistle,
and we used to get we used to get.
Speaker 5: Some kind of answer out of that thing. We didn't
get anything that night. But uh, I've never seen anything
like it.
Speaker 4: I can't really explain how the moon goes to kind
of a reddish orange back to the color. It was
roughly an hour before that, So I don't know, no
idea I can't answer.
Speaker 5: But we had at least twelve people that seen it happen.
Speaker 3: That's insane. That is insane. I mean, like like you said,
there's stuff like you know, like the eclipse is of
the blood moon or the harvest moon or stuff. So
maybe maybe we need to start going out in the
woods when those are happening, because it seems.
Speaker 5: Like no if I wish that, you know, think about
it now. I'm not sure that anybody.
Speaker 4: Somebody may have recording back because we had a lot
of paper, but couldn't believe that the moon changed like that,
but never seen anything like that, and I don't know
how that could even be possible, but it happened.
Speaker 3: Another good reason to have dash cams. Sounds like, all right,
well we are we're coming up here on the end.
We have two more things for you. A Native tracker
would like to know. Has anyone asked tribal people about
what was known to live in the LBO? Is there
any tribes living in that area now? Is it any
like Native land.
Speaker 4: Part of that or not? Now that I'm aware of,
you know, I'm I have American naightie than me, and
I do know some tribal paper that had talked about
that area, but I'm not aware any living there now.
I'm pretty sure it was a Shashawnee that lived there before.
I could be wrong, but there's none living there currently.
But that's a great question. I'd like you to know
that answered that myself.
Speaker 3: But nothing you you haven't heard of any like stories
or anything.
Speaker 5: I have not.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Just when I was telling you about the seventeen hundreds
and already nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 5: When I said that dog band creature lived in the area.
Speaker 3: Interesting. It's always good to look back at the folklore
and stuff of the area. Octopus with No Friends says,
no comment. Just want to thank you him Darryl Denton
for sharing his experiences because it's important that we talk
to each other about these things openly. So thank you
Barnaby and Darryl.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you very much. Occupiis. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and thank you all for all the great comments
and stuff as we go here. So much so many
people in the audience today, thank you all for tuning in. Darryl,
you have in your bio it said that you were
working on a book that was an older bio. Have
you made any progress on that.
Speaker 4: I'm one of those kind of people that i'm i'm
O c D. When I if I forget I've left
something out, I go back and try to fix it.
So my book is slowly coming together, so hopefully hopefully
in the next month or two, I'll have it together. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Fortunate.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, Ron moore Hea is writing an article
for me in it, and then Martin Graves will be
writing one.
Speaker 5: Two and then hopefully I'll get it put together and
get it promised. So thank you for that.
Speaker 4: Anybody, if you don't mind, if you're in the Arkansas area,
this weekend will be our conference will be in Arkansas.
It's called in the Gap. It's in Jasper, Arkansas. It's
gonna be a great time if you're in that area
of Arkansas.
Speaker 5: It'll be a Friday and Saturday, Jasper, Arkansas.
Speaker 4: And and catch our show to not if you would,
if you don't mind me plugging our show. We have
two real crypted legends. Ron Morehead and I do and
we have a show on the night at Ken Eastern
and it's two real crypted legends. If you're in my group,
you can find the button to push it inside because Michelle,
our moderator manager, post it and tonight we have a
great guest and he's going to tell his complete story
that he told me years ago. And my best friend
Martin Groves is our guest on there. So if you
catch us, we appreciate it, and I want to I
want to thank Barnaby for having me own and thank
you everybody for watching. All my friends out there, and
everyone remember say your prayers and be kind to everybody.
Speaker 5: Awesome man.
Speaker 3: Your link to your Facebook group is in the show notes,
so anybody that's familiar with it, it is in the
show notes, just click that on whatever platform you're listening on,
whether it be podcast after the Fact or here on YouTube,
you can check that out. But Darryl is absolute pleasure
having you on again. Thank you so much for all
of your knowledge and you definitely stay safe out there.
Speaker 5: Hi. Thanks a lot, Barbie. I appreciate the honor being here.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, take care man. We'll talk to you.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: Guys. That is our show for this week. I hope
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