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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold

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<v Speaker 1>radionetwork dot com today. Hey everybody, this is not Striving Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>yes I know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Brian on sasquatch Otys. Hey there and welcome back to Sasquatchots.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being with us for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Friday. I hope you at an amazing holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a phenomenal guest lined up for you. But

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<v Speaker 1>as always, I want to start by inviting you. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, shoot me an email and get me a

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<v Speaker 1>Brian at Paranormal World Productions dot com and head over

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<v Speaker 1>to the website check it out, become a member there

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<v Speaker 1>and help support the show. I got to sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to the Survivor Man himself, Less Stroud. I

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<v Speaker 1>had Less on the show gosh over three years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>back in October of twenty twenty one. I've actually went

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<v Speaker 1>back and remastered that episode and put it out for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. But Less is back today to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>his new film, The Question of Bigfoot. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>kickstarter up. The link for the kickstarter is right here

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes, I'd love it if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>would go over and donate whatever you can, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>one dollar, five dollars, ten dollars, ten thousand dollars, would

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<v Speaker 1>be amazing because Less is trying to answer some of

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<v Speaker 1>these very questions that we talk about week after week

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<v Speaker 1>after week on this show and over on that Bigfoot podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to getting into the new project and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the questions that you guys submitted through Reddit and

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<v Speaker 1>over on Facebook and on Instagram, Less is going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this video from the Transylvanian Alps when he

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<v Speaker 1>was doing Survivor Man Over in Romania. Someone sent me

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<v Speaker 1>this video quite a while back, and Wayne and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually did a full episode of that Bigfoot Podcast talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this particular video where it appears that, unbeknownst to Less,

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<v Speaker 1>as he was recording this, he filmed a sasquatch in

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<v Speaker 1>the background watching him. I will link to this full

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<v Speaker 1>video from Jailbreakoverlander over on Paranormal World Productions dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>so make sure you head over there, check out the

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<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch out to See blog at the top of the page,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can see this video in its entirety. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do some still screenshots. I will post

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<v Speaker 1>those over there on the blog, complete with the red

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<v Speaker 1>circle so you can make sure that you can see this.

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<v Speaker 1>Towards the end of this interview, I ask Less about

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<v Speaker 1>this particular video and what may be captured on film,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you're going to be very surprised by

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<v Speaker 1>what he has to say. But enough of that, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you guys are ready to get into it. Less

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<v Speaker 1>is on the line, He's ready to go. All that's

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<v Speaker 1>left for you to do is sit back, relax and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy the show. It is hard to believe it has

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<v Speaker 1>been over three years since I've had you on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the man, the myth, the legend himself back

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. It is Survivor Man, Les Stroud. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the show, sir. Thank you very much, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to be here. I am glad to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get right into it. Let's talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>new documentary, this new project that you're working on. The

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<v Speaker 1>question of Bigfoot man, that is a huge question. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about that. Why the project? Why now? Les?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you getting into the deep waters of the

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<v Speaker 1>question of Bigfoot to answer your why question, good question.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a matter of as so many things are in life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always paying attention to the sistentiality of life, everything

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<v Speaker 2>that's going going on around me, and the timing and

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<v Speaker 2>so on. There's good times for things and right wrong times.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been requested to get back, to jump back into

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<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot, the Sasquatch realm for a long time. I've

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<v Speaker 2>resisted it because I've been busy with other things. I

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<v Speaker 2>have my series Wild Harvest, which is just kick an

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<v Speaker 2>ass on PBS in the United States, doing so so well.

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<v Speaker 2>Just love making that series, and of course my music.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been working away on my music. The why is

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<v Speaker 2>a bit because almost would want to answer that in

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<v Speaker 2>the most honest way I can and say did I

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<v Speaker 2>really get to the bottom of things with the original

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<v Speaker 2>series Survivor Man Bigfoot? And I would say quite cannony, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe I did. And a lot has come

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<v Speaker 2>to light since that time. I was ten years ago

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<v Speaker 2>that I did that series ten so a lot has

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<v Speaker 2>come to light in that time. A lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>have come and gone in the world of Sasquatch and

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<v Speaker 2>the world of Bigfoot research as well. I'm not in

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<v Speaker 2>the position that I once was at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>my game as survivor man, when finances were fluid and

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<v Speaker 2>loose and easy. Hey, I want to produce this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>throw some money at it, let's produce it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not in that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>But what did come along was the success of Kickstarter

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<v Speaker 2>and be able to create a campaign and say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if we can get enough behind the wheels, we can

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<v Speaker 2>make this thing run. So I thought, okay, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>timing is right. Timing is right for me to get

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<v Speaker 2>back on this whole new perspective of how we can

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<v Speaker 2>approach the phenomenon of Bigfoot, and at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>I can incorporate using Kickstarter. So I'll just get that

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<v Speaker 2>plugged oy the way right now for everybody listening kickstarter

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<v Speaker 2>dot com, if you go and if you just put

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<v Speaker 2>in the question of Bigfoot, find that campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun building all the reward possibilities.

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<v Speaker 2>From twenty bucks to really big ticket items where I

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<v Speaker 2>will take you out on an actual expedition or we

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<v Speaker 1>That being available also created the space for me to say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's do this. Also, I've seen back

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<v Speaker 1>up with the editor that I worked with for many

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<v Speaker 1>years on all of my Survivor Man and Survivor Man

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<v Speaker 1>big Foot. Barry Ferrell team back up with him on

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<v Speaker 1>the project, so I thought this is the right time.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was ever to do Bigfoot again, it really

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be Barry because he worked on all the

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<v Speaker 1>original series. But yeah, everything's fallen into place. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the why. Let's talk about this question because that

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<v Speaker 1>is something that comes up for all of us that

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<v Speaker 1>have been into this. A lot has changed in three

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<v Speaker 1>years since you were on. We had a great conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time you were on the show. I had

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<v Speaker 1>not had any experiences at that point that led me

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<v Speaker 1>to believe these creatures were one hundred percent real. That

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<v Speaker 1>has changed for me over the last couple of months.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really talk about it, obviously, people know about

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<v Speaker 1>it on the show. I'm under nda because I was

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<v Speaker 1>involved in a filming a project that'll hopefully be out

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<v Speaker 1>before the end of the year, and then I could

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<v Speaker 1>talk about these experiences. But I am now in the

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<v Speaker 1>knowwher Camp. I know you've been sitting there for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a while, so let's talk a little bit about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the questions that have been out there that are

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding this project and Bigfoot in and of itself. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about those questions for you. What

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<v Speaker 1>are some of those main questionstion is that you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>to answer with this new project. Then we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>some of the nuts and bolts about how you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to approach and get into those answers to those questions

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<v Speaker 1>that we've all been seeking. The specific questions are all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, because there's such a breadth of questions and

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many more like a gradient, right, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a gradient of understanding about this phenomenon of what it

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<v Speaker 1>is or what it might be. Let's start over here

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<v Speaker 1>and start the arrow going and say, okay, it's gigantopithecus.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a holdover relic comenid, and the Arab starts to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I think largely driven by recorded attributes of what it

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<v Speaker 2>can do or can't do. Everything from the basics of

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<v Speaker 2>it can pick berries and hunt elk, and it defecates

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<v Speaker 2>and lives in a cave, the basics all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you go over here and it's a full

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<v Speaker 2>blown alien and it travels through worlds. But that scope,

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<v Speaker 2>that's large thing. So it's all these gradients of what

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<v Speaker 2>individuals believe it or understand it or surmise.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Within each of those gradients, you have questions, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, yeah, okay, it's a big, old, very smart abe. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how is it not being seen on cameras? Yeah? How

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<v Speaker 1>does it? That's a big body to fill? How's it

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<v Speaker 1>even going to survive? So you see, that's just starting there.

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<v Speaker 2>You get over here, it's like, all right, what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of experiences do people have that indicate that it has

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<v Speaker 2>telepathic abilities or portal travel abilities?

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<v Speaker 1>And what is that? Where are we going with that?

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<v Speaker 1>We're bringing in Neil de grasse Tyson to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>portal travels. Where are we going with this? Again? You

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<v Speaker 1>get questions within that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, for over here, what's the difference between believing in

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<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot and believing in ghosts or God? I love all

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<v Speaker 2>of these questions with it, hopefully as little hubris as

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<v Speaker 2>I require. I'd like to try to answer them all

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<v Speaker 2>in succinct detail, because what we gend to do I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't say we, because I'm not actually, as I've said

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<v Speaker 2>many times, I'm not a big Foot researcher. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>documentary filmmaker, keemly interested in the subject matter and I've

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<v Speaker 2>had my own experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That said, I'd like to ask how succinctly we can

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<v Speaker 2>answer these questions, and I'll get to how I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, because what happens is everybody has their

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<v Speaker 2>question or their answer, but they're not answering the other

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two percent of the questions. They're just stuck here

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<v Speaker 2>in this gradient, or they're stuck here, or they're stuck here.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take it all on. People are definitely

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<v Speaker 1>excited to have you back into the ring, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>going toe to toe with this question. You bring so

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<v Speaker 1>much validity to the subject. You bring so much from

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<v Speaker 1>your survivorman experiences. It's a different caliber having somebody take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at this. It's almost the same thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we go through with trying to get academics into the subject.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at people like Meldrum and the people that are

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<v Speaker 1>interested in this with PhD behind their name, you do

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<v Speaker 1>tons of questions. I've probably got one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>questions from people. We've definitely narrowed those down. Trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>Emphatic yes as to both of those questions, Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to the drawing from my own experiences clearly across the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be redundant and just rehash what

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<v Speaker 2>Come fully to what I experienced while filming Survivorman Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't right for the series, just a tangrent for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>not even going to mention it. While I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>Survivor Man, Bigfoot, the same thing. There were certain things

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<v Speaker 1>And the short answer to that is yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, am I going to bother Jeff Meldrum with questions

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<v Speaker 2>about them traveling through portals? No, because that's not where

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<v Speaker 2>where Jeff Meldrum lives and ask him respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>Questions within the scope of that. But if someone over

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<v Speaker 2>Not in a way so that once I get to

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Every gradient has its place, but every gradient is filled

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<v Speaker 2>But the short way was yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of survivor man in Alaska, the incident that happened

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<v Speaker 1>to you while filming in Alaska, had you considered going

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<v Speaker 2>Short answer is yes, I am going to be going

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<v Speaker 2>many places that I went, so many experiences. The experience

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<v Speaker 2>and then of course the Alaskan one. The other aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of that is with the Alaskan one, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>you want to go there, and I'll get you in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's really not that far from where I was,

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<v Speaker 1>A greater hotspot. I will say it though, that it's

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be no different than I saw Links one time

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's so simple as to say I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquat Chobasy. We'll be right back

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<v Speaker 2>That said where I did experience the most profound things,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's about let see, there's the Portland one, which

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<v Speaker 2>Radium springs. These are places Am I intrigued and interested

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? I think what I'll do is just simply rather

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<v Speaker 1>than trying to guess that when I think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>or not freeze or be rained on constantly or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it makes it logistically possible. But yeah, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about going back for sure. And you had

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<v Speaker 1>a second part to that question. Yeah, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee asked this question. You already answered the second part,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll put it out there in its totality. How

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have listeners that I believe, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>You can't choose, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We can call them hotspots all you want. Sure I

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<v Speaker 2>when the lake trout are going to be biting in Tamagami, Ontario.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why if I've had some kind of success, it's

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<v Speaker 2>If you will, I think it's more about recently I

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<v Speaker 1>You never do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Now I'm down in the deep in a

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<v Speaker 1>And again, how far do we go with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if we're on this side of the scale, then

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<v Speaker 2>a human making himself vulnerable. So in the hotspots, sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be stupid to try this in Central Park, New York,

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<v Speaker 1>One of those hotspots. There's a place east of Portland,

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<v Speaker 1>You'd think that's the scene of the film, right, the Patterson.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we all I didn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the least of what I had was when

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<v Speaker 2>I was down in Willow Creek, the least of any

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<v Speaker 1>But yet then I go to my own.

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<v Speaker 2>Cottage into Mogm, Ontario, and this happens, and that happens

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<v Speaker 2>and I can a listit a response. Now, notwithstanding people

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<v Speaker 2>who say they have relationships and always go I always have, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go a little off script here as

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<v Speaker 1>the course of I've probably interviewed a thousand people. At

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that comes up over and over that really

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<v Speaker 1>that in this new film and maybe look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of these habituation situations where people are claiming to have

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and no, this one comes with a cautionary tale.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I'm not going to do is give you

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<v Speaker 1>We've had lots of those too many finding Big Foo.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need me interviewing yet another guy who's got

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<v Speaker 2>That's put the question in Bigfoot is so let's answer

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<v Speaker 2>these questions. You can hear lots of great stories. Will

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<v Speaker 2>there be some potentially peppered throughout the film? That comes

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. One of the things I haven't told you is

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope I get a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't promise any of these people because they might

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<v Speaker 2>get a chance to sit down with the David Bletis

421
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<v Speaker 2>very good friend of mine and I respect him a lot,

422
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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Meldrum, Stacy Brown Junior. These are individuals that are

423
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<v Speaker 2>either acquaintances or downright friends and have real experiences. But

424
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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get caught down that trap where

425
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<v Speaker 2>I just start giving you a parade of people who

426
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<v Speaker 2>know what they saw and they don't care what anybody says.

427
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<v Speaker 2>They got their story to tell. We've got those stories.

428
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<v Speaker 2>We've got lots of them. That's the other thing.

429
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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to say to people for this film, along

430
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<v Speaker 1>with not getting all of that, it's not just going

431
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<v Speaker 1>to be another film where it's going to be that,

432
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<v Speaker 1>followed by a creepy aerial shot over a misty forest

433
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<v Speaker 1>that's turned into black and white, followed by another story,

434
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<v Speaker 1>followed by it's not what I do, it's not how

435
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<v Speaker 1>I approach this. Well that makes sense, do you know

436
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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Absolutely? I love it. Mat Did I

437
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<v Speaker 1>answer the question? I can't think I off script myself there. No,

438
00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:31.599
<v Speaker 1>that was really the perfect answer, at least for me.

439
00:21:31.799 --> 00:21:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I am so craving that because that's one of the

440
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<v Speaker 1>things I host another show. I host multiple podcasts with

441
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<v Speaker 1>my co host Wayne Over on that Bigfoot podcast, and

442
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<v Speaker 1>we've had conversation after conversation about this. We literally did

443
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<v Speaker 1>a show recently where if you go and google the

444
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<v Speaker 1>latest thing in Bigfoot or the newest thing in Bigfoot,

445
00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.519
<v Speaker 1>there's really nothing out there. I think Sasquatch Sunset was

446
00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:56.440
<v Speaker 1>probably the only thing that's even recent from this year

447
00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.559
<v Speaker 1>that pops up. I had those guys on the show.

448
00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I interview the creators, directors, and stars of that film.

449
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<v Speaker 1>A couple of months back when the film came out,

450
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<v Speaker 1>and I have my opinions about it. Not my favorite

451
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<v Speaker 1>thing that happened to twenty twenty four, but that's really

452
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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in Bigfoot. I think this film, your film,

453
00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the question of Bigfoot, can change all of that for

454
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<v Speaker 1>so many people. Because we are hungry, we are craving

455
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<v Speaker 1>the next best thing. We want these answers to these

456
00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.759
<v Speaker 1>age old questions that we've all been wanting to know.

457
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<v Speaker 1>I interrupted Brunn and just saying it, and back to

458
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<v Speaker 1>the why of why I got in.

459
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<v Speaker 2>I did the Survival Man Bigfoot series because I felt

460
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<v Speaker 2>finding Bigfoot did such a disservice the phenomen Notwithstanding that,

461
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<v Speaker 2>I love Cliff I think Clip's a really great guy,

462
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<v Speaker 2>a really nice man. But I think that show, which

463
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<v Speaker 2>was not in his control, was a joke. I'm back

464
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<v Speaker 2>now because of what you just said. I'm like, you

465
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<v Speaker 2>know what, now's the right time. Now, that's the right

466
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<v Speaker 2>time to do this up correctly. There are some other

467
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<v Speaker 2>films on the horizon, some I can't speak of, some

468
00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I've heard of, and people I respect, like Doug Hichek.

469
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<v Speaker 2>But notwithstanding the directions they might go, I just I

470
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<v Speaker 2>have a direction that I go that is a different

471
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<v Speaker 2>perspective stream just about everybody.

472
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<v Speaker 1>It's the right time. This question comes from my friend

473
00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Chris up in Tennessee, and she wants to know. This

474
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<v Speaker 1>is something We've done entire shows about this as well.

475
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:14.880
<v Speaker 1>It's something that I have been preaching for so long.

476
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Because there's so many people doing independent research. I do

477
00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:20.039
<v Speaker 1>my own research. I went out with Todd last year

478
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<v Speaker 1>up in October out in Radium. I've been out in

479
00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>the UK looking for these things. I was out in

480
00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:26.559
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Northwest a couple of months ago. That's where

481
00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:29.319
<v Speaker 1>I had my experiences. But there's so many people doing

482
00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:33.119
<v Speaker 1>independent research, and Chris wants to know your perspective, your

483
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>opinion on this list. How do we as a Bigfoot

484
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:39.279
<v Speaker 1>community come together and share the information that brings us

485
00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:43.519
<v Speaker 1>together and proves the existence of these creatures. Hopefully films

486
00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>like this, incorporating so many different people with so many

487
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:49.400
<v Speaker 1>different perspectives, will hopefully help do this for us in

488
00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:51.599
<v Speaker 1>the community. But it is one of those things it's

489
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<v Speaker 1>very divided. Is this is mine. You can't come here,

490
00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.039
<v Speaker 1>you can't come to my research area. You can't know

491
00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.519
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing because it's mine. How in your can

492
00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>we bring the community together and move forward in a

493
00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>way that we share information and hopefully brings us a

494
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit closer to answering some of these questions that

495
00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.279
<v Speaker 1>we have about Bigfoot. Can I be a little brad

496
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.519
<v Speaker 1>abs of freaking lovely, Let's just ignore and stay away

497
00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:19.079
<v Speaker 1>from the crazies. And when I say that, with all

498
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>due respect to your listeners, it's a small percentage in

499
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<v Speaker 1>a room of one hundred people at a Bigfoot conference,

500
00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's two people, maybe maybe three, probably two who are

501
00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>obsessive about this and obsessive about that. Nobody not over

502
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>here on the side of portals and aliens or over

503
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>here on Jeff Meldrum's side of gigantapithecus. Nobody can claim knowing.

504
00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>The best we have is believing someone who said they've

505
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:51.640
<v Speaker 2>actually seen it. That's the best we have. But to

506
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:55.400
<v Speaker 2>answer with this person's question is see for me. Okay,

507
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I'll answer it this way. When I was doing Survive

508
00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Van Bigfoot, I got into it with like eyes white open,

509
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 2>but an innocent and this is oh so cool.

510
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for this big a but I think maybe

511
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it could be out there.

512
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:08.279
<v Speaker 2>But it didn't take long, partially because I was that guy, right,

513
00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm a survivor man, so I game with a cachet.

514
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 1>When I discovered that individuals would.

515
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<v Speaker 2>Want me to be their poster boy, they would want

516
00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>me to be in their camp of what this is.

517
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if I made enemies or not,

518
00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.160
<v Speaker 2>but I definitely refuse to be anybody's poster boy.

519
00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I am wide open.

520
00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I might open to all possibilities in life anyway, So

521
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 2>for me to avoid, for example, the subject of their

522
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.599
<v Speaker 2>supposed ability within the scope of telepathy, that brings a

523
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 2>whole other thing into it. And again with massive amounts

524
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<v Speaker 2>of respect to Jeff Meldrum, who's approaching on a purely

525
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>scientific basis, he doesn't want to talk about that unless

526
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:51.599
<v Speaker 2>he one data decides to get interested in that.

527
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But I respect that. But for a moment, I'm into that.

528
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to who's in that world. So

529
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<v Speaker 1>if anybody in any of the worlds is like slamming

530
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<v Speaker 1>the desk, and this is what I mean by avoiding

531
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the crazies. I see it on Facebook postings. All gay

532
00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>let's strautneys to contact me urgently. Only I can show

533
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>can give him a connection to these I have a

534
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.839
<v Speaker 1>relationship and I'm just like you're the first person that's

535
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 1>never going to get a call back from my office.

536
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I want sanity, I want critical thinkers, so avoid those

537
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>who are not critical thinkers, who are willing to go Okay, Honestly,

538
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I got no time for the portal thing, for the

539
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.039
<v Speaker 1>alien thing, but I think there's a lot of knowledge

540
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.839
<v Speaker 1>and information behind why this could be gigantipithecus, and why

541
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I could be highly intelligent, why could it evade trail

542
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 1>cams and exist in the forest. I'm not interested in

543
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>them vanishing before your eyes, but I'm over here. Those

544
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>are the people like a Jet Melt, or like a

545
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>David Plitis, or even my good buddy Stacy Brown Junior,

546
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 1>who comes with a lot of color. For some reason,

547
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:51.839
<v Speaker 1>we're brothers from other mothers. I don't know why, because

548
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we're like diametrically opposed in so many ways. That's how

549
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you avoid the crazies, and you stick with the critical

550
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 1>thinkers when you smell the crazy. I'm going to go

551
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 1>over this other booth here over here, I'm going to

552
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 1>go talk to Ron moorehead excuse me, and get away

553
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>from the crazies. I don't know if that's too much

554
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>simplistic of an answer, but that's how I'm going to

555
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>do it. I am a musician. I have done music

556
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>my entire life. I love your music, So this question

557
00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 1>is about your music. They want to know a little

558
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>bit about your music career and do you think sasquatches

559
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>may react or interact with music and the melodic type

560
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 1>of vocalizations and whistles that they are reported to do.

561
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing this in there. It's not a part of

562
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>this question, but I want to know if you're maybe

563
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>looking at possibly doing some of that stuff music related

564
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff in this new project to see if they respond

565
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 1>to it. First of all, thanks for asking about the music.

566
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Quick tidy up on that is I just finished.

567
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I performed on Slash's new album, his blues album called

568
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Orgy of the Damn that I did some touring with him,

569
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>great blues rock album. I'm always working on my Mother

570
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Earth album to get live performances happening, which is a

571
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:53.880
<v Speaker 2>celebration of nature.

572
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Through film and music. I have two new albums coming out.

573
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Actually, one is Little in that Americana acoustic genre that

574
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 2>I love some. The other one is full on Rock

575
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>being produced by Mike Klink, which is a Brammy Award

576
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>winning producer.

577
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So yes, my music constant. In fact, if anything, you

578
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm doing right now, I'm doing music and

579
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a question a big But those are my two worlds

580
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 1>right now. Wild Harvest will come along when it comes

581
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>along that series. But these are my two worlds right now.

582
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is one thing that I did not do,

583
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 2>but I have seen it's cliche music, Sue the Savage Beast.

584
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 2>I've seen that with animals, and I'm a musician. I've

585
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 2>done it myself. Actually with harmonica. I remember I was

586
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 2>able to bring in over to me, like an audience

587
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>from across the other side of the lake, upwards of

588
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 2>fifty loons. That's a water bird with a beautiful call.

589
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>And I brought fifty of them with my harmonica over.

590
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I got wolves to howell with my harmonica. The word

591
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>answer now is absolutely, We're going to see where that

592
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>can go.

593
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.599
<v Speaker 1>I love it. This comes from our buddy Jake. He

594
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 1>wants to know your thoughts on migration. This is something

595
00:28:57.799 --> 00:29:00.359
<v Speaker 1>that's come up so many times. I finished my first book,

596
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatchu Least, the Truth behind the Legend, that came out

597
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>earlier this year. Cliff actually wrote the forward to my book.

598
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a very scientific approach to Bigfoot, so we didn't

599
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 1>really get a ton into migration because it's very subjective.

600
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:14.559
<v Speaker 1>But that's one of the things I've had conversations with

601
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:17.799
<v Speaker 1>people like Jeff and Cliff about. Jake wants to know

602
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>your opinions on whether these things migrate, and do you

603
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>think there's a large enough population in the lower forty

604
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 1>eight and in Canada that could support the species, or

605
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 1>do you think these things are in smaller groups and

606
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:34.039
<v Speaker 1>they're migrating based on climate, food, and other factors.

607
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>So, based on my knowledge of natural history and the wilderness,

608
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 2>in short, I think they've got to number somewhere between

609
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>thirty and forty five thousand across North America. I think

610
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 2>they are in small groups, so it makes sense. And

611
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely think they migrate, if not great distances, at

612
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 2>least moderate distances like a herd of elkmight.

613
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 1>I think they migrate based on weather patterns where they.

614
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Might exist, sleep their prey, whether that's berries or elk

615
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.400
<v Speaker 2>or everything in between, fish, salmon, and so on. I

616
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.079
<v Speaker 2>think they have homelands, But I think generally speaking, the

617
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:16.119
<v Speaker 2>answer the reason why because you have to name any

618
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 2>hunter gatherer society that didn't migrate.

619
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 1>There isn't one. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch outasy. We'll

620
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

621
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<v Speaker 2>They all had to migrate. Right now is when the

622
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>kamus is ready. Right now, the berries are ready, the

623
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>salmon is running over here. I follow the elk this

624
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.480
<v Speaker 2>way over there. They're most vulnerable in this moment, this

625
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 2>time of the year, just on a purely physical level alone.

626
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>That's the way I see it. I can't say that's

627
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<v Speaker 1>the way it is, but that's the way I believe it.

628
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<v Speaker 1>It probably is another purely subjective question here. If this

629
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<v Speaker 1>is something that's come up recently. I've had conversations with

630
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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people. I'm actually trying to get a

631
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of folks scheduled for an interview on the show

632
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this, because they've claim to have seen this.

633
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to Fred roll up in Alaska a couple

634
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:06.799
<v Speaker 1>of times, and Fred has interviewed folks who have claimed

635
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>to have seen this as well. It's about the tree

636
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 1>knocks that so many people have recorded. You mentioned finding

637
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot earlier. It was something that they did constantly. It's

638
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 1>something that a lot of researchers still do. I was

639
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods a couple of months ago that

640
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>was happening. We brought a tree knocker and we were

641
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>doing tree knocks. Do you think it's possible that these

642
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>tree knocks that people are hearing are more of mouth

643
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>pops versus tree knocks, so vocalizations as opposed to these

644
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 1>things picking up a stick and hitting a tree.

645
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I did hear one perspective that I thought had some

646
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.319
<v Speaker 2>validity to it, that they are potentially mouth pops and

647
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 2>not tree knocks. If you think about it, first of all,

648
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>ahead that's going to be two to three times.

649
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 1>Larger than mine. Yeah, you have a mouth cavity that's

650
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 1>just massive.

651
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Knowing when and how and where to do that, you

652
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>could have a very loud sounding up with that. That

653
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 2>for us one hundred yards five hundred yards half a

654
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 2>quarter mile away sounds like. One of the reasons that

655
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 2>I like going down that road is.

656
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Because I suppose in their world they would know where

657
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the trees are.

658
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Me trying to find trees to make that sound, it's hard.

659
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 2>It can't just be near any old swamp and find

660
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 2>the right club and the right tree to hit it.

661
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>And it makes that sound.

662
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Try it. Go ahead and try it.

663
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 2>You'll be hard pressed to find something within hours that

664
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>actually sounds like that. And now it has to be

665
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.000
<v Speaker 2>in the right place at the right time and create

666
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the right echo space. All of that being all of

667
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 2>that together, that's not so easy. The different types of

668
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 2>trees we have. If we're down here in Oregon, we

669
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 2>have pine and madrone breeze. But if I'm up in Ontario,

670
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm dealing with birch and poplar.

671
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>It's all so different. So if they can mouth pop

672
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 1>if that's why would they do that. It's the problem

673
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:56.839
<v Speaker 1>for the skeptics and anybody out there who doesn't care

674
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:00.279
<v Speaker 1>about this, is it seems silly, doesn't Oh yeah, yeah,

675
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big foot.

676
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 2>The thing is, it's just going to be some form

677
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>of rudimentary communication going on.

678
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they have advanced communication.

679
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go there right now, but I

680
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>will say that in terms of rudimentary communication, why not pops, whistles, pops, vocalizations, imitations.

681
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Of course, therein lies the danger of being led down

682
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.079
<v Speaker 2>the garden pathway of every time you hear a crow,

683
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a saasputch. Every time you hear an owl, it's

684
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 2>a sasqutch, And then I've even done his No, that's

685
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>an owl.

686
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>They imitate owls. Oh good lord. So it's tricky. But anyway,

687
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I hope that answer your questions.

688
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I am intrigued by this way of communicating. As I say,

689
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>a quarter kilometer of away echoed across the lake from

690
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>a large jowled communicative feature certainly makes sense.

691
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had Tom Powell on the show recently and

692
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Tom was showing me his technique of how he makes

693
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the mouth pops. It is really loud. If you get

694
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>profision at it. I can certainly see something with baseball

695
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.559
<v Speaker 1>mit sized hands with this, like you said, an enormous jowl,

696
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I could definitely see it being something. It's more of

697
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.079
<v Speaker 1>a vocalization versus them finding a stick or a rock

698
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to hit a tree with. Here's an interesting question that

699
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>comes from Tom. With all of your wilderness experience, and

700
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 1>now the experience is that you've had that you believe

701
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe related to sasquatch, are there different precautions that you

702
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>take before you go out into the wilderness that maybe

703
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you didn't take before because of the presence of these creatures.

704
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Zero, I take no precautions that way. The only precautions

705
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I take would be bear spray and grizzly territory, a

706
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 2>rifle and polar bear territory, get back in the cage,

707
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 2>and if I'm diving with white sharks, keep my eyes

708
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>straight on a tiger and staying away from lines. That's

709
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 2>my precautions. Otherwise, No, I don't want to come across

710
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>as braggadoccio with it or anything.

711
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not cautious in the forest. I think that

712
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>goes against the experience you're trying to have. You go

713
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>out there with an AK forty seven ready to shoot

714
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 1>down this big beast. O. Good luck with that. I'd

715
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 1>rather be vulnerable and trust that it's not my time

716
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 1>to die yet. Here's an interesting question that's come up

717
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.639
<v Speaker 1>multiple times. As I said, I wrote my first book,

718
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.119
<v Speaker 1>it was a very scientific book. I've just finished my

719
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>second book, and it's a fictional line story about Bigfoot

720
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to answer some of these questions. In my opinion, this

721
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:23.639
<v Speaker 1>is one of the things that I addressed in the book,

722
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and some people have asked me this over and over.

723
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to one person who interviewed a person who

724
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>has since passed away years ago who had an experience

725
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>with a juvenile sasquatch that he grew up getting to know.

726
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:39.199
<v Speaker 1>According to him, he said that this bigfoot was able

727
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 1>to make fire. And here's one of the questions that

728
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody asked on Reddit. Do you believe they have the

729
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.760
<v Speaker 1>ability to use or make fire? And do you believe

730
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 1>that they might use cave systems and or hibernate during

731
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the wintertime and some of these harsher climates. The fire

732
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 1>thing is out of my scope of even trying to

733
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>deal with simply because my initial answer is in the

734
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 1>negative for that one. It doesn't make sense to me.

735
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe on the odd occasion.

736
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>But it would make them very vulnerable to being seen

737
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and discovered by us. For those researchers who find tracks

738
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>questionable this and questionable that in tree structures and so on,

739
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:21.199
<v Speaker 2>will you start to find fire spots and then they say, oh, yeah,

740
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.079
<v Speaker 2>but then that could just be humans leading fire behind.

741
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's an interesting question, I don't think.

742
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 2>So then again we go back to again over on

743
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 2>this side of the scale with the question of where

744
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>they live in hibernating and so on. If we're going

745
00:36:33.039 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to stay in that realm, it's purely a matter of biology.

746
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's take my chocolate labs, and my chocolate labs can

747
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.719
<v Speaker 2>jump in icy water and enjoy it and.

748
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Come out like nothing's have happened. I don't know how

749
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>they do it, but they can do it.

750
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>So a species like sasquatch that is so at home

751
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>in the wilderness, whether or not they hibernate, I could

752
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 2>see that being a reality for them up in Canada

753
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 2>and Northern Canada. But if we're going to allow that

754
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 2>there's many of them in that they're across North America,

755
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>do they need to hibernate if it's a Florida skuncave.

756
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Do they need to hibernate in Oregon?

757
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>No?

758
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 2>And the other truism with hibernation is that it's not

759
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>what people think it is. It's not like a bear

760
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>goes off to sleep and never wakes up in the

761
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>middle of winter or even never comes out in its den.

762
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Black bears will come out of their den in January

763
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and February if they just feel the airge to get

764
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>up and stretch. It's a thing grizzly soup, houl of

765
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.840
<v Speaker 2>bear's suit. I don't think people should be imaging a

766
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>family of a dozen sasquatch huddled together in a cave,

767
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Speaker 2>hibernating out the winter. I think that's fanciful, thinking there'd

768
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>be much more to it than that. The whole physiology

769
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 2>of a black bear is built towards being able to

770
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.679
<v Speaker 2>sleep for months on end in that state of hibernation,

771
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 2>living office fat reserves. How do we know that sasquatch

772
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:54.000
<v Speaker 2>can do the same or they more like us. We

773
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 2>can't eat six months worth of food and then sleep

774
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>for six months, and a black bear is a canine.

775
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a whole different trechctory of evolution. But as far

776
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>as utilizing cave systems and so, all of that is

777
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 2>just a big fact. Yes, why wouldn't they Why wouldn't

778
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 2>they use cave systems underground tunnels? There's so much more

779
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>of that out there than we know. I've found some,

780
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 2>not saying I found Bigfoot cave, but I've found caves

781
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 2>that nobody knew about because I was bushwhacking.

782
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 1>There's so much of that out there, Like.

783
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 2>There's a few million into the ground caves in North America.

784
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Not saying that because I know that scientifically, I'm guessing

785
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>that's probably the case.

786
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>So the answer is why wouldn't they. I would last

787
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 1>couple of questions before we completely shift gears, before I'll

788
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>let you get out of here. This has come up recently.

789
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I had a great listener who was into stats that

790
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.280
<v Speaker 1>was over from the UK and we had an entire

791
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 1>show where he broke down some of the stuff that

792
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>was on the BFRO. He looked through five thousand encounters

793
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and broke down the specific time of the year that

794
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.679
<v Speaker 1>you're more likely to have an experience with bigfoot. So

795
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 1>this is a quick two part question for you. How

796
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.079
<v Speaker 1>long do you typically stay in an area that you

797
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>researching specifically for the documentary and or just in general

798
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to bigfoot? And is there a specific

799
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>time of year that you prefer to do that kind

800
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>of study and look for these things when you're out

801
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in the woods.

802
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that should be out there a month

803
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 2>you aren't going to have any activity because most of

804
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>my activities.

805
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Happened within hours. Now I can get into the details

806
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>as to why I believe that's the case with me.

807
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't have anything special, but that most of it

808
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 2>in some cases literally arriving on the spot and something

809
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 2>goes down. Sure, I don't need to prove myself with

810
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 2>my ability being able to stay out somewhere for a

811
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 2>long time. I don't think that in this case, in

812
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 2>this research, that I need that. Conversely, speaking, if you're

813
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 2>being a researcher, I think it should be constant and consistent. Nonetheless,

814
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the problem with that is you can spend months with

815
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>nothing and it becomes very disheartening. So it'll come down

816
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 2>to your methodology. I'm sorry, Brian, what was the second question.

817
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the second part was is there a specific time

818
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:59.679
<v Speaker 1>of year that you prefer to go out that you've

819
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>had more experiences. For example, the Gentleman that we had

820
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>on from the UK, when he broke down the BFRO

821
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>raw data, he found that October was basically October, November

822
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and December with the three biggest months for a potential

823
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch encounter. Have you seen that in your own research.

824
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Is there a specific time of year where you've had

825
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 1>more experiences where you would maybe focus on being out

826
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>in the woods looking for them. It's an interesting question

827
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:25.559
<v Speaker 1>because part of the problem I'd love to know how.

828
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:28.440
<v Speaker 2>That data was acquired and what the cross sections were,

829
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.159
<v Speaker 2>because for example, that also just happens to be the

830
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>time when most hunters are out in the woods, they're

831
00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.360
<v Speaker 2>not out there. You will find me lollygagging around the

832
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 2>forest looking for a sasquatch encounter in the middle of

833
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:41.400
<v Speaker 2>June in northern.

834
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Ontario, Canada. No thanks, because I'll be that.

835
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 2>The counter I will have will be a beast that

836
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:49.880
<v Speaker 2>is monstrous, that has made up of blackflies that are

837
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 2>going to pick me up and carry me away, or mosquitoes.

838
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.400
<v Speaker 2>So we got nothing to do with that because another species,

839
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:57.880
<v Speaker 2>is that even a problem to them? We know black

840
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>flies send musau to the forest going crazy.

841
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Is that a problem? Processible A jot o't No. Rigardness

842
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 1>of winter is just brutal and painful and cold, So

843
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't find us at it there. You find most

844
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 1>of us humans lollygagging around out in the woods, trekking

845
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>out in the woods in that fall season. Maybe August,

846
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you could throw August and September in there for basic

847
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 1>general hikers, but all of us, everybody who hunts, that's

848
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 1>when we go. It's the most pleasant, it's the easiest,

849
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 1>the bugs are gone, temperatures are good, so it could

850
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.639
<v Speaker 1>be just a subject of that. That said, I've seen

851
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:35.840
<v Speaker 1>other researchers with their footage from the winter, and think

852
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 1>about it, if you're ever going to see tracks. When

853
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I used to do nothing but tracking regular animals, winter

854
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.079
<v Speaker 1>was my favorite time of year because trying to find

855
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 1>that one patch of mud where Grizzly happened to walk in,

856
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 1>that one patch of mud where I can.

857
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Cast his track, that's tough. Once you get into snow,

858
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.239
<v Speaker 2>get at the right time, all the tracks are there

859
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>for you. So I think I'm answering a question by

860
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.559
<v Speaker 2>not answering the question. I would love to know and

861
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:03.320
<v Speaker 2>hear from people who spend more time in the winter,

862
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>do they have better luck?

863
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Me myself?

864
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 2>See, I had one of my more significant experiences in.

865
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Early spring, very significant. So did the person I was

866
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>out with.

867
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 2>There's a whole story behind when I took the fan

868
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 2>out in a Survivorman episode that he and I have,

869
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Joseph McCollum. I have that is based on Bigfoot, which

870
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't share in the Survivorman film.

871
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>That was April.

872
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 2>So I would not curtail Carol Anwel, I'll finish this.

873
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't curtail my research based on the time of year.

874
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 2>I would go when I could go, because also, you know,

875
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 2>what April in Oregon's freaking beautiful. What a great time

876
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 2>of year to go out. All depends on where you

877
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:44.840
<v Speaker 2>are Florida. Who cares what time of year you go

878
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 2>in Florida.

879
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I've got to ask you about this. You and I

880
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 1>talked about it. I sent you a couple of screenshots

881
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 1>before we got on this morning, and I want to

882
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:56.119
<v Speaker 1>get into this video from Survivor Man Romania Part one

883
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 1>in the Transylvanian Apps. This is something that came up

884
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>on the radar probably five or six months ago. Wayne

885
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and I talked about it on that Bigfoot podcast. Are

886
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you aware of this possible sasquatch that you might have

887
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 1>filmed over your shoulder? Well, how you were doing this?

888
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Tell us the scoop. What do you got to say

889
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>about that? Yeah, let's do it by talking about the

890
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>other ones. No, we didn't see anything. Then we'd see

891
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>on social media.

892
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Hey man, something ran across the road when you were there,

893
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and something's in the woods behind. These are other shows,

894
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 2>other episodes, other sightings, And we were intrigued by this,

895
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 2>and I would say to Barry or Luke or whoever

896
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.079
<v Speaker 2>was working on it, I'd say, pull up the original

897
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>footage we won't get a clearer vantage of what that

898
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>is without the original footage. Because what people make the

899
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 2>mistake if you're not in a film production, what they're

900
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 2>not aware of is that the footage when it finally

901
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.039
<v Speaker 2>gets to your television screen has been compressed, color grading,

902
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 2>and all these different things go on. And even though

903
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 2>it looks clean and clear and nice, the reality is

904
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not as clean and clear as nice as the

905
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 2>actual tape or the card that the original clip is on.

906
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 1>There's all this compression that happens. We have.

907
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Compressions comes what we call artifacts, and artifacts are things

908
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>that you think are there that you look at.

909
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>The originals not even there.

910
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.119
<v Speaker 2>So we started looking at these Barry and I when

911
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 2>we were pulling them up, maybe Max Thatt would too,

912
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 2>And every time it was like, yeah, it's a leaf

913
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>in the foreground.

914
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's a branch in the wind. Okay. We could

915
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:15.320
<v Speaker 1>see that clearly.

916
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>It was not a sasquatch running across the road. It

917
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 2>was the movement of a shadow from the wind and

918
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the tree.

919
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just really clear.

920
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:27.760
<v Speaker 2>That said, we've answered all of those except this one,

921
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 2>and this one we did not know about it and

922
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:33.199
<v Speaker 2>it is new within the scope of this film, we're

923
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>going to be approaching that one.

924
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 1>There's a few things to take into account here.

925
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Number one, it's in the Transylvanian elks in Romania. What

926
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 2>other stories come from that region any at all? Would

927
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 2>this be the only story that would ever come from

928
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>that region? Or are there hundreds that'll change our thought

929
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:50.800
<v Speaker 2>on it? They're already like, oh yeah, and are you

930
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 2>kitting in the Transylvania elks man, It's just like Targesh Mountains.

931
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:58.599
<v Speaker 1>I think it's called. There's all kinds of sightings and

932
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 1>stay tuned for more SASQ watch out to see. We'll

933
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages. Okay, that might change

934
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>how we look at it. We're going to pull up

935
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>that footage. We did pull it up. I want to

936
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>approach it in the film. What I can say is

937
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it was not answered by being a leaf or a

938
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>branch or an artifact or anything like that at all. Yeah.

939
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I also want to approach that whole one, and only

940
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 2>because I think it's the only one where my editor

941
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.199
<v Speaker 2>and I are looking at it going what the hell

942
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:31.760
<v Speaker 2>all of the other.

943
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Ones and it's a leaf.

944
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 2>So yes, it's going to be I'm quite confident it's

945
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>going to make it into the film.

946
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the documentary. The last question really is

947
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.199
<v Speaker 1>leading into that, and it comes from my buddy over

948
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.239
<v Speaker 1>at Bigfoot Society. Jeremiah wants to know will this be

949
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:48.639
<v Speaker 1>in theaters? Is it going to be on streaming platforms?

950
00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:52.039
<v Speaker 1>What else can you possibly tell us about the documentary

951
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>when we can expect it in anything? You want to

952
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 1>close out letting the folks know about it, if I.

953
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Can do an isolated run in theaters where I think

954
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I'll actually get some people out to do it, or

955
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:03.679
<v Speaker 2>perhaps maybe screening it at at a big Foot conference.

956
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I've long been.

957
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Asked to join a lot of the different big of

958
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the conferences and been unable to are. They're good people,

959
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I just haven't been able to do it.

960
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:10.320
<v Speaker 1>So I think that.

961
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Would probably be very appropriate to say I go to

962
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 2>the Ohio bit to the conference or something like that,

963
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 2>or the one in Washington and say that we're going

964
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:16.679
<v Speaker 2>to screen.

965
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:18.039
<v Speaker 1>The film and I'll be there.

966
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 2>That would make a lot of sense. Number two would

967
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>be on the network television side of it. They're hard

968
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 2>breaths to take stuff like this. It's a battleground trying to.

969
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Get your stuff on these places. Maybe Netflix, maybe, but

970
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>they drank the reality TV cool eight years ago and

971
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 1>that's all they really want. So if this hasn't got

972
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 1>that reality sensationalism to it, if it has it with

973
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.320
<v Speaker 1>some earnestness, they don't want it. So I'd be left

974
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to streaming, of course, which in that case opens me

975
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>up certainly up to Prime as well to my distribution company,

976
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>who could distribute around the world because there are there

977
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 1>is the odd network that will take it, and then

978
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 1>of course YouTube. There you have it, folks, the question

979
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of bigfoot Less drout. I will link to everything that

980
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Less talked about in the show notes today, specifically the

981
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Kickstarter folks. These things do not make themselves. It is

982
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>an expensive venture to get into good filmmaking. To do

983
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 1>what Less does. He cannot do it without you, guys.

984
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Make sure you click the button right here in the

985
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>show notes go over to Kickstarter right now. Give whatever

986
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:18.599
<v Speaker 1>you can. If it's a dollar, if it's ten thousand dollars.

987
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>It is going to help us answer these questions, and

988
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Less Stroud, in my opinion, is the man to do it.

989
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Less thank you so much for taking the time to

990
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>come on and share everything with us today. We are

991
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:29.719
<v Speaker 1>so looking forward to this and I can't thank you

992
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>enough for your time.

993
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:30.639
<v Speaker 4>Man.

994
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Brian, and certainly let's get me right back on

995
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.159
<v Speaker 2>with you. When I have that film to present, we'll

996
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>get into it and I'll be happy to dissect it

997
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>with you and we'll have some funny get it. It's

998
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>a joy to talk with you again.

999
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Excellent, my friend.

1000
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:52.800
<v Speaker 3>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

1001
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 5>I want.

1002
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:09.599
<v Speaker 6>Outside steps.

1003
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 4>Step joy, this chard that chart, Everything came right back,

1004
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 4>pride back joy for me, Joy, stay right, you come.

1005
00:48:33.280 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 5>It right away. Still still sat sidings to the fact.

1006
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Dot dot dot dot dot dot about the.

1007
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 5>Still stills us Still things used these things