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Speaker 1: yes I know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to
Speaker 1: Brian on sasquatch Otys. Hey there and welcome back to Sasquatchots.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us for the show.
Speaker 1: It is Friday. I hope you at an amazing holiday.
Speaker 1: We have a phenomenal guest lined up for you. But
Speaker 1: as always, I want to start by inviting you. If
Speaker 1: you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on
Speaker 1: the show, shoot me an email and get me a
Speaker 1: Brian at Paranormal World Productions dot com and head over
Speaker 1: to the website check it out, become a member there
Speaker 1: and help support the show. I got to sit down
Speaker 1: and talk to the Survivor Man himself, Less Stroud. I
Speaker 1: had Less on the show gosh over three years ago,
Speaker 1: back in October of twenty twenty one. I've actually went
Speaker 1: back and remastered that episode and put it out for
Speaker 1: you guys. But Less is back today to talk about
Speaker 1: his new film, The Question of Bigfoot. He has a
Speaker 1: kickstarter up. The link for the kickstarter is right here
Speaker 1: in the show notes, I'd love it if you guys
Speaker 1: would go over and donate whatever you can, if it's
Speaker 1: one dollar, five dollars, ten dollars, ten thousand dollars, would
Speaker 1: be amazing because Less is trying to answer some of
Speaker 1: these very questions that we talk about week after week
Speaker 1: after week on this show and over on that Bigfoot podcast.
Speaker 1: In addition to getting into the new project and some
Speaker 1: of the questions that you guys submitted through Reddit and
Speaker 1: over on Facebook and on Instagram, Less is going to
Speaker 1: talk about this video from the Transylvanian Alps when he
Speaker 1: was doing Survivor Man Over in Romania. Someone sent me
Speaker 1: this video quite a while back, and Wayne and I
Speaker 1: actually did a full episode of that Bigfoot Podcast talking
Speaker 1: about this particular video where it appears that, unbeknownst to Less,
Speaker 1: as he was recording this, he filmed a sasquatch in
Speaker 1: the background watching him. I will link to this full
Speaker 1: video from Jailbreakoverlander over on Paranormal World Productions dot com,
Speaker 1: so make sure you head over there, check out the
Speaker 1: Sasquatch out to See blog at the top of the page,
Speaker 1: and you can see this video in its entirety. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to do some still screenshots. I will post
Speaker 1: those over there on the blog, complete with the red
Speaker 1: circle so you can make sure that you can see this.
Speaker 1: Towards the end of this interview, I ask Less about
Speaker 1: this particular video and what may be captured on film,
Speaker 1: and I think you're going to be very surprised by
Speaker 1: what he has to say. But enough of that, I
Speaker 1: know you guys are ready to get into it. Less
Speaker 1: is on the line, He's ready to go. All that's
Speaker 1: left for you to do is sit back, relax and
Speaker 1: enjoy the show. It is hard to believe it has
Speaker 1: been over three years since I've had you on the show.
Speaker 1: We have the man, the myth, the legend himself back
Speaker 1: in the house. It is Survivor Man, Les Stroud. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the show, sir. Thank you very much, Brian.
Speaker 1: It's good to be here. I am glad to have you.
Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. Let's talk about this
Speaker 1: new documentary, this new project that you're working on. The
Speaker 1: question of Bigfoot man, that is a huge question. Let's
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that. Why the project? Why now? Les?
Speaker 1: Why are you getting into the deep waters of the
Speaker 1: question of Bigfoot to answer your why question, good question.
Speaker 2: It's a matter of as so many things are in life.
Speaker 2: I'm always paying attention to the sistentiality of life, everything
Speaker 2: that's going going on around me, and the timing and
Speaker 2: so on. There's good times for things and right wrong times.
Speaker 2: I've been requested to get back, to jump back into
Speaker 2: the Bigfoot, the Sasquatch realm for a long time. I've
Speaker 2: resisted it because I've been busy with other things. I
Speaker 2: have my series Wild Harvest, which is just kick an
Speaker 2: ass on PBS in the United States, doing so so well.
Speaker 2: Just love making that series, and of course my music.
Speaker 2: I've been working away on my music. The why is
Speaker 2: a bit because almost would want to answer that in
Speaker 2: the most honest way I can and say did I
Speaker 2: really get to the bottom of things with the original
Speaker 2: series Survivor Man Bigfoot? And I would say quite cannony, No,
Speaker 2: I don't believe I did. And a lot has come
Speaker 2: to light since that time. I was ten years ago
Speaker 2: that I did that series ten so a lot has
Speaker 2: come to light in that time. A lot of things
Speaker 2: have come and gone in the world of Sasquatch and
Speaker 2: the world of Bigfoot research as well. I'm not in
Speaker 2: the position that I once was at the top of
Speaker 2: my game as survivor man, when finances were fluid and
Speaker 2: loose and easy. Hey, I want to produce this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: throw some money at it, let's produce it.
Speaker 1: Not in that situation.
Speaker 2: But what did come along was the success of Kickstarter
Speaker 2: and be able to create a campaign and say, look,
Speaker 2: if we can get enough behind the wheels, we can
Speaker 2: make this thing run. So I thought, okay, you know what,
Speaker 2: timing is right. Timing is right for me to get
Speaker 2: back on this whole new perspective of how we can
Speaker 2: approach the phenomenon of Bigfoot, and at the same time
Speaker 2: I can incorporate using Kickstarter. So I'll just get that
Speaker 2: plugged oy the way right now for everybody listening kickstarter
Speaker 2: dot com, if you go and if you just put
Speaker 2: in the question of Bigfoot, find that campaign.
Speaker 1: It was fun building all the reward possibilities.
Speaker 2: From twenty bucks to really big ticket items where I
Speaker 2: will take you out on an actual expedition or we
Speaker 2: go out for dinner.
Speaker 1: That being available also created the space for me to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's do this. Also, I've seen back
Speaker 1: up with the editor that I worked with for many
Speaker 1: years on all of my Survivor Man and Survivor Man
Speaker 1: big Foot. Barry Ferrell team back up with him on
Speaker 1: the project, so I thought this is the right time.
Speaker 1: If I was ever to do Bigfoot again, it really
Speaker 1: needs to be Barry because he worked on all the
Speaker 1: original series. But yeah, everything's fallen into place. Here we go.
Speaker 1: There's the why. Let's talk about this question because that
Speaker 1: is something that comes up for all of us that
Speaker 1: have been into this. A lot has changed in three
Speaker 1: years since you were on. We had a great conversation.
Speaker 1: The first time you were on the show. I had
Speaker 1: not had any experiences at that point that led me
Speaker 1: to believe these creatures were one hundred percent real. That
Speaker 1: has changed for me over the last couple of months.
Speaker 1: I can't really talk about it, obviously, people know about
Speaker 1: it on the show. I'm under nda because I was
Speaker 1: involved in a filming a project that'll hopefully be out
Speaker 1: before the end of the year, and then I could
Speaker 1: talk about these experiences. But I am now in the
Speaker 1: knowwher Camp. I know you've been sitting there for quite
Speaker 1: a while, so let's talk a little bit about some
Speaker 1: of the questions that have been out there that are
Speaker 1: surrounding this project and Bigfoot in and of itself. Let's
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about those questions for you. What
Speaker 1: are some of those main questionstion is that you're looking
Speaker 1: to answer with this new project. Then we'll get into
Speaker 1: some of the nuts and bolts about how you're going
Speaker 1: to approach and get into those answers to those questions
Speaker 1: that we've all been seeking. The specific questions are all
Speaker 1: of them, because there's such a breadth of questions and
Speaker 1: there's so many more like a gradient, right, you have
Speaker 1: a gradient of understanding about this phenomenon of what it
Speaker 1: is or what it might be. Let's start over here
Speaker 1: and start the arrow going and say, okay, it's gigantopithecus.
Speaker 1: It's a holdover relic comenid, and the Arab starts to go.
Speaker 2: I think largely driven by recorded attributes of what it
Speaker 2: can do or can't do. Everything from the basics of
Speaker 2: it can pick berries and hunt elk, and it defecates
Speaker 2: and lives in a cave, the basics all the way.
Speaker 2: And then you go over here and it's a full
Speaker 2: blown alien and it travels through worlds. But that scope,
Speaker 2: that's large thing. So it's all these gradients of what
Speaker 2: individuals believe it or understand it or surmise.
Speaker 1: It might be.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Within each of those gradients, you have questions, right, and
Speaker 1: it's okay, yeah, okay, it's a big, old, very smart abe. Okay,
Speaker 1: how is it not being seen on cameras? Yeah? How
Speaker 1: does it? That's a big body to fill? How's it
Speaker 1: even going to survive? So you see, that's just starting there.
Speaker 2: You get over here, it's like, all right, what kind
Speaker 2: of experiences do people have that indicate that it has
Speaker 2: telepathic abilities or portal travel abilities?
Speaker 1: And what is that? Where are we going with that?
Speaker 1: We're bringing in Neil de grasse Tyson to talk about
Speaker 1: portal travels. Where are we going with this? Again? You
Speaker 1: get questions within that?
Speaker 2: Okay, for over here, what's the difference between believing in
Speaker 2: Bigfoot and believing in ghosts or God? I love all
Speaker 2: of these questions with it, hopefully as little hubris as
Speaker 2: I require. I'd like to try to answer them all
Speaker 2: in succinct detail, because what we gend to do I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say we, because I'm not actually, as I've said
Speaker 2: many times, I'm not a big Foot researcher. I'm a
Speaker 2: documentary filmmaker, keemly interested in the subject matter and I've
Speaker 2: had my own experiences.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: That said, I'd like to ask how succinctly we can
Speaker 2: answer these questions, and I'll get to how I'm going
Speaker 2: to do that, because what happens is everybody has their
Speaker 2: question or their answer, but they're not answering the other
Speaker 2: eighty two percent of the questions. They're just stuck here
Speaker 2: in this gradient, or they're stuck here, or they're stuck here.
Speaker 1: I want to take it all on. People are definitely
Speaker 1: excited to have you back into the ring, so to speak,
Speaker 1: going toe to toe with this question. You bring so
Speaker 1: much validity to the subject. You bring so much from
Speaker 1: your survivorman experiences. It's a different caliber having somebody take
Speaker 1: a look at this. It's almost the same thing that
Speaker 1: we go through with trying to get academics into the subject.
Speaker 1: Looking at people like Meldrum and the people that are
Speaker 1: interested in this with PhD behind their name, you do
Speaker 1: that in a different way because for us, the boots
Speaker 1: on the ground, researchers and the people who get out
Speaker 1: trying to have our own experiences are looking for some
Speaker 1: validity because there is so much ridicule that goes on
Speaker 1: in the community, and so much ridicule that goes on
Speaker 1: just people in general towards us that are interested in
Speaker 1: the subject. So I am excited to have you look
Speaker 1: at all aspects. I put it out there to the
Speaker 1: listenership of the show a couple of days ago. I
Speaker 1: went on Reddit and did a couple of posts that
Speaker 1: we were going to do this interview, and I got
Speaker 1: tons of questions. I've probably got one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: questions from people. We've definitely narrowed those down. Trust me,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you one hundred and fifty questions.
Speaker 1: One of the main questions that came out of this
Speaker 1: was are you going to actually get into your experiences
Speaker 1: with sasquatch in this new film? Are you going to
Speaker 1: talk about the possibility that they're interdimensional, supernatural the spiritual
Speaker 1: aspect of sasquatch that, Frankly, the person who asked this
Speaker 1: question wants to get more into that because they believe
Speaker 1: that there's something to be explored there. Talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about are you going to look at some of
Speaker 1: those aspects of this creature, not just the flesh and
Speaker 1: blood aspect, but some of the more weird things, the
Speaker 1: high strangeness events that people experience. Are you going to
Speaker 1: draw from your own experiences in this new project?
Speaker 2: Emphatic yes as to both of those questions, Let's go
Speaker 2: to the drawing from my own experiences clearly across the
Speaker 2: ten episodes of Survivor Man.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be redundant and just rehash what
Speaker 1: I already did. In fact, I would rather.
Speaker 2: Come fully to what I experienced while filming Survivorman Bigfoot,
Speaker 2: which would include certain things I did not share on
Speaker 2: Survivorman Bigfoot. Wasn't ready to wasn't in the right place,
Speaker 2: wasn't right for the series, just a tangrent for a second.
Speaker 2: In a like way, when I had my experience in Alaska,
Speaker 2: I was filming Survivor Man and Surviveman was riding high.
Speaker 2: I never mentioned that in the Survivor Man series because
Speaker 2: I didn't want to detract from what I was doing
Speaker 2: as Survivorman. I don't want to give you if I
Speaker 2: say Bigfoot in the middle of a Survivorman show, everybody's
Speaker 2: going to get me all it's a shiny object, So
Speaker 2: not even going to mention it. While I was doing
Speaker 2: Survivor Man, Bigfoot, the same thing. There were certain things
Speaker 2: that happened, and that does lead us to the other
Speaker 2: elements of respective on this which you get into the more.
Speaker 2: Let's just it's a bit of a misnomer, but you
Speaker 2: can put the paranormal blanket on it, let's say.
Speaker 1: And the short answer to that is yes.
Speaker 2: Now, am I going to bother Jeff Meldrum with questions
Speaker 2: about them traveling through portals? No, because that's not where
Speaker 2: Jeff comes from. I want to deal with Jeff Meldrum
Speaker 2: where Jeff Meldrum lives and ask him respectful.
Speaker 1: Questions within the scope of that. But if someone over
Speaker 1: here is saying, look, I communicate with them and they
Speaker 1: come from this planet, then okay, then I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask some specific questions and get specific answers out of
Speaker 1: that person.
Speaker 2: Not in a way so that once I get to
Speaker 2: this side of the scale it mocks or disrespects what
Speaker 2: was over on this side of the scale.
Speaker 1: Not at all.
Speaker 2: Every gradient has its place, but every gradient is filled
Speaker 2: with questions. So that's my long win to answer the question.
Speaker 2: But the short way was yes.
Speaker 1: Speaking of survivor man in Alaska, the incident that happened
Speaker 1: to you while filming in Alaska, had you considered going
Speaker 1: back to that exact area looking at some of these
Speaker 1: areas that you've been again.
Speaker 2: Short answer is yes, I am going to be going
Speaker 2: back to some places. My longer answer to that is
Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly where, when, or how. Yet, so
Speaker 2: many places that I went, so many experiences. The experience
Speaker 2: in Smoking Mountains Tennessee was far more profound than I
Speaker 2: ever explained. The experience I had with Scott Carpenter was
Speaker 2: incredibly profound, the experience that I had in Clem too,
Speaker 2: and then of course the Alaskan one. The other aspect
Speaker 2: of that is with the Alaskan one, I have a
Speaker 2: connection there who is familiar with that area, who has
Speaker 2: a remote, extremely remote river section area where no one
Speaker 2: ever goes except for mining research or logging research. The
Speaker 2: stories there are incredible, and he's let me know when
Speaker 2: you want to go there, and I'll get you in there.
Speaker 2: And it's really not that far from where I was,
Speaker 2: so perhaps even.
Speaker 1: A greater hotspot. I will say it though, that it's
Speaker 1: a fool's game to try to go back to relive
Speaker 1: or make happen something in the same place, even at
Speaker 1: the same time because if these beings do exist, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're not just hanging out in one spot.
Speaker 2: It'd be no different than I saw Links one time
Speaker 2: on a trail in Tamogamy, and I could go stand
Speaker 2: by that corner or the trail for the rest of
Speaker 2: my life and never see another Links again. So I
Speaker 2: don't think it's so simple as to say I'm going
Speaker 2: to go back there because that's where I experience something, and.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more sasquat Chobasy. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: after these messages.
Speaker 2: That said where I did experience the most profound things,
Speaker 2: and there's about let see, there's the Portland one, which
Speaker 2: was the extra episode, there's on the top of the mountain,
Speaker 2: Radium springs. These are places Am I intrigued and interested
Speaker 2: in going back?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I think what I'll do is just simply rather
Speaker 1: than trying to guess that when I think they're going
Speaker 1: to be there is I would base it on whether
Speaker 1: when can I go there? When can I go there
Speaker 1: or not freeze or be rained on constantly or whatever,
Speaker 1: and so it makes it logistically possible. But yeah, definitely
Speaker 1: I'm excited about going back for sure. And you had
Speaker 1: a second part to that question. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: two part question. There. My good buddy Roger up and
Speaker 1: Tennessee asked this question. You already answered the second part,
Speaker 1: but I'll put it out there in its totality. How
Speaker 1: do you choose your areas for research? And are you
Speaker 1: going to go back to well known places or lesser
Speaker 1: known places for the new documentary.
Speaker 2: I think you have listeners that I believe, I hope
Speaker 2: happy with my answer to that.
Speaker 1: You can't choose, and.
Speaker 2: We can call them hotspots all you want. Sure I
Speaker 2: can tell you when the steelhead are going to be
Speaker 2: good in the Roague River. Sure I can tell you
Speaker 2: when the lake trout are going to be biting in Tamagami, Ontario.
Speaker 2: But picking and choosing where I'm going to go to
Speaker 2: elicit an encounter is a fool's gag, and I think.
Speaker 1: That's why if I've had some kind of success, it's
Speaker 1: because it's their choice, not mine.
Speaker 2: If you will, I think it's more about recently I
Speaker 2: was doing it. I just it's up right now on
Speaker 2: my YouTube challenge at the director's commentary on one of
Speaker 2: the last episodes that I did in the Radium Springs area,
Speaker 2: commented a lot about and I believe this is right
Speaker 2: about relaxing and also making yourself very vulnerable. Now it's
Speaker 2: a survival instructor. It's triggy because making yourself vulnerable is dangerous.
Speaker 1: You never do that.
Speaker 2: So going in and say, staying in a place where
Speaker 2: I'm vulnerable to I'm the one who can be seen,
Speaker 2: but I can't see much around me. For example, if
Speaker 2: I'm up on a ledge looking overseeing everything, I'm not
Speaker 2: so vulnerable. That's why moose hang out on ledges. They're
Speaker 2: watch They're literally looking for Woltz.
Speaker 1: You know. Now I'm down in the deep in a
Speaker 1: gully like this, I'm now very vulnerable walking down that gully.
Speaker 1: But in this situation, I.
Speaker 2: Believe that's part of the process is placing yourself in
Speaker 2: an area where you are vulnerable to allow this species
Speaker 2: to know you're there without you knowing they're there, to
Speaker 2: watch you there without you knowing they're watching you.
Speaker 1: And again, how far do we go with this?
Speaker 2: Because if we're on this side of the scale, then
Speaker 2: their ability to travel and get to places becomes much
Speaker 2: more complex. So in the end, all I am is
Speaker 2: a human making himself vulnerable. So in the hotspots, sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd be stupid to try this in Central Park, New York,
Speaker 2: regardless of what people might say about whether or not
Speaker 2: they come into cities.
Speaker 1: One of those hotspots. There's a place east of Portland,
Speaker 1: there's clem To.
Speaker 2: In northwestern Canada, there's the Top of the Mountain area,
Speaker 2: Radium Springs area. There's my own cap and in Tumagabi, Ontario,
Speaker 2: there's a smoky mountains in Tennessee. Finally, enough where I
Speaker 2: didn't really have much of anything was actually in Willow Creek, right.
Speaker 1: You'd think that's the scene of the film, right, the Patterson.
Speaker 1: That's where we all I didn't have.
Speaker 2: That was the least of what I had was when
Speaker 2: I was down in Willow Creek, the least of any
Speaker 2: And I would say nothing.
Speaker 1: But yet then I go to my own.
Speaker 2: Cottage into Mogm, Ontario, and this happens, and that happens
Speaker 2: in this southens. So you're at a bit of a
Speaker 2: loss and you're hard pressed to say I'm going there,
Speaker 2: and I can a listit a response. Now, notwithstanding people
Speaker 2: who say they have relationships and always go I always have, No,
Speaker 2: I don't always. I've been able to have experiences in
Speaker 2: lots of places, because I think it's about how I
Speaker 2: present myself.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go a little off script here as
Speaker 1: far as some of the questions, because this is something
Speaker 1: that has come up for me so many times over
Speaker 1: the course of I've probably interviewed a thousand people. At
Speaker 1: this point, we're over five hundred episodes of the show.
Speaker 1: The thing that comes up over and over that really
Speaker 1: baffles me is some of these habituation situations that people
Speaker 1: claim to have. Are you going to explore some of
Speaker 1: that in this new film and maybe look at some
Speaker 1: of these habituation situations where people are claiming to have
Speaker 1: multiple experiences over the course of time with these creatures
Speaker 1: on their property.
Speaker 2: Yes, and no, this one comes with a cautionary tale.
Speaker 2: One thing I'm not going to do is give you
Speaker 2: yet another film with seventeen eyewitness interviews.
Speaker 1: We've had lots of those too many finding Big Foo.
Speaker 2: The only thing that was good about Finding Bigfoot was
Speaker 2: the town hall story after story.
Speaker 1: That was the fun part. That was a good part.
Speaker 2: You don't need me interviewing yet another guy who's got
Speaker 2: a hunt camp, he goes who It's just those are
Speaker 2: already out there. I need me to answer these questions.
Speaker 2: That's put the question in Bigfoot is so let's answer
Speaker 2: these questions. You can hear lots of great stories. Will
Speaker 2: there be some potentially peppered throughout the film? That comes
Speaker 2: down to filmmaking. If this is the right time to
Speaker 2: let Jeff from Texas tell his story.
Speaker 1: Sure. One of the things I haven't told you is
Speaker 1: what I want to do is go to a lot
Speaker 1: of the people who are spending all of their time
Speaker 1: actually researching and going out there and going after this.
Speaker 1: So I hope I get a chance.
Speaker 2: I can't promise any of these people because they might
Speaker 2: say not well, they're got busy, But I hope I
Speaker 2: get a chance to sit down with the David Bletis
Speaker 2: very good friend of mine and I respect him a lot,
Speaker 2: Jeff Meldrum, Stacy Brown Junior. These are individuals that are
Speaker 2: either acquaintances or downright friends and have real experiences. But
Speaker 2: I don't want to get caught down that trap where
Speaker 2: I just start giving you a parade of people who
Speaker 2: know what they saw and they don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 2: They got their story to tell. We've got those stories.
Speaker 2: We've got lots of them. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1: I'd love to say to people for this film, along
Speaker 1: with not getting all of that, it's not just going
Speaker 1: to be another film where it's going to be that,
Speaker 1: followed by a creepy aerial shot over a misty forest
Speaker 1: that's turned into black and white, followed by another story,
Speaker 1: followed by it's not what I do, it's not how
Speaker 1: I approach this. Well that makes sense, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Absolutely? I love it. Mat Did I
Speaker 1: answer the question? I can't think I off script myself there. No,
Speaker 1: that was really the perfect answer, at least for me.
Speaker 1: I am so craving that because that's one of the
Speaker 1: things I host another show. I host multiple podcasts with
Speaker 1: my co host Wayne Over on that Bigfoot podcast, and
Speaker 1: we've had conversation after conversation about this. We literally did
Speaker 1: a show recently where if you go and google the
Speaker 1: latest thing in Bigfoot or the newest thing in Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: there's really nothing out there. I think Sasquatch Sunset was
Speaker 1: probably the only thing that's even recent from this year
Speaker 1: that pops up. I had those guys on the show.
Speaker 1: I interview the creators, directors, and stars of that film.
Speaker 1: A couple of months back when the film came out,
Speaker 1: and I have my opinions about it. Not my favorite
Speaker 1: thing that happened to twenty twenty four, but that's really
Speaker 1: what's happening in Bigfoot. I think this film, your film,
Speaker 1: the question of Bigfoot, can change all of that for
Speaker 1: so many people. Because we are hungry, we are craving
Speaker 1: the next best thing. We want these answers to these
Speaker 1: age old questions that we've all been wanting to know.
Speaker 1: I interrupted Brunn and just saying it, and back to
Speaker 1: the why of why I got in.
Speaker 2: I did the Survival Man Bigfoot series because I felt
Speaker 2: finding Bigfoot did such a disservice the phenomen Notwithstanding that,
Speaker 2: I love Cliff I think Clip's a really great guy,
Speaker 2: a really nice man. But I think that show, which
Speaker 2: was not in his control, was a joke. I'm back
Speaker 2: now because of what you just said. I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what, now's the right time. Now, that's the right
Speaker 2: time to do this up correctly. There are some other
Speaker 2: films on the horizon, some I can't speak of, some
Speaker 2: I've heard of, and people I respect, like Doug Hichek.
Speaker 2: But notwithstanding the directions they might go, I just I
Speaker 2: have a direction that I go that is a different
Speaker 2: perspective stream just about everybody.
Speaker 1: It's the right time. This question comes from my friend
Speaker 1: Chris up in Tennessee, and she wants to know. This
Speaker 1: is something We've done entire shows about this as well.
Speaker 1: It's something that I have been preaching for so long.
Speaker 1: Because there's so many people doing independent research. I do
Speaker 1: my own research. I went out with Todd last year
Speaker 1: up in October out in Radium. I've been out in
Speaker 1: the UK looking for these things. I was out in
Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest a couple of months ago. That's where
Speaker 1: I had my experiences. But there's so many people doing
Speaker 1: independent research, and Chris wants to know your perspective, your
Speaker 1: opinion on this list. How do we as a Bigfoot
Speaker 1: community come together and share the information that brings us
Speaker 1: together and proves the existence of these creatures. Hopefully films
Speaker 1: like this, incorporating so many different people with so many
Speaker 1: different perspectives, will hopefully help do this for us in
Speaker 1: the community. But it is one of those things it's
Speaker 1: very divided. Is this is mine. You can't come here,
Speaker 1: you can't come to my research area. You can't know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing because it's mine. How in your can
Speaker 1: we bring the community together and move forward in a
Speaker 1: way that we share information and hopefully brings us a
Speaker 1: little bit closer to answering some of these questions that
Speaker 1: we have about Bigfoot. Can I be a little brad
Speaker 1: abs of freaking lovely, Let's just ignore and stay away
Speaker 1: from the crazies. And when I say that, with all
Speaker 1: due respect to your listeners, it's a small percentage in
Speaker 1: a room of one hundred people at a Bigfoot conference,
Speaker 1: it's two people, maybe maybe three, probably two who are
Speaker 1: obsessive about this and obsessive about that. Nobody not over
Speaker 1: here on the side of portals and aliens or over
Speaker 1: here on Jeff Meldrum's side of gigantapithecus. Nobody can claim knowing.
Speaker 2: The best we have is believing someone who said they've
Speaker 2: actually seen it. That's the best we have. But to
Speaker 2: answer with this person's question is see for me. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll answer it this way. When I was doing Survive
Speaker 2: Van Bigfoot, I got into it with like eyes white open,
Speaker 2: but an innocent and this is oh so cool.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for this big a but I think maybe
Speaker 1: it could be out there.
Speaker 2: But it didn't take long, partially because I was that guy, right,
Speaker 2: I'm a survivor man, so I game with a cachet.
Speaker 1: When I discovered that individuals would.
Speaker 2: Want me to be their poster boy, they would want
Speaker 2: me to be in their camp of what this is.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I made enemies or not,
Speaker 2: but I definitely refuse to be anybody's poster boy.
Speaker 1: I am wide open.
Speaker 2: I might open to all possibilities in life anyway, So
Speaker 2: for me to avoid, for example, the subject of their
Speaker 2: supposed ability within the scope of telepathy, that brings a
Speaker 2: whole other thing into it. And again with massive amounts
Speaker 2: of respect to Jeff Meldrum, who's approaching on a purely
Speaker 2: scientific basis, he doesn't want to talk about that unless
Speaker 2: he one data decides to get interested in that.
Speaker 1: But I respect that. But for a moment, I'm into that.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to who's in that world. So
Speaker 1: if anybody in any of the worlds is like slamming
Speaker 1: the desk, and this is what I mean by avoiding
Speaker 1: the crazies. I see it on Facebook postings. All gay
Speaker 1: let's strautneys to contact me urgently. Only I can show
Speaker 1: can give him a connection to these I have a
Speaker 1: relationship and I'm just like you're the first person that's
Speaker 1: never going to get a call back from my office.
Speaker 1: I want sanity, I want critical thinkers, so avoid those
Speaker 1: who are not critical thinkers, who are willing to go Okay, Honestly,
Speaker 1: I got no time for the portal thing, for the
Speaker 1: alien thing, but I think there's a lot of knowledge
Speaker 1: and information behind why this could be gigantipithecus, and why
Speaker 1: I could be highly intelligent, why could it evade trail
Speaker 1: cams and exist in the forest. I'm not interested in
Speaker 1: them vanishing before your eyes, but I'm over here. Those
Speaker 1: are the people like a Jet Melt, or like a
Speaker 1: David Plitis, or even my good buddy Stacy Brown Junior,
Speaker 1: who comes with a lot of color. For some reason,
Speaker 1: we're brothers from other mothers. I don't know why, because
Speaker 1: we're like diametrically opposed in so many ways. That's how
Speaker 1: you avoid the crazies, and you stick with the critical
Speaker 1: thinkers when you smell the crazy. I'm going to go
Speaker 1: over this other booth here over here, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go talk to Ron moorehead excuse me, and get away
Speaker 1: from the crazies. I don't know if that's too much
Speaker 1: simplistic of an answer, but that's how I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it. I am a musician. I have done music
Speaker 1: my entire life. I love your music, So this question
Speaker 1: is about your music. They want to know a little
Speaker 1: bit about your music career and do you think sasquatches
Speaker 1: may react or interact with music and the melodic type
Speaker 1: of vocalizations and whistles that they are reported to do.
Speaker 1: I'm throwing this in there. It's not a part of
Speaker 1: this question, but I want to know if you're maybe
Speaker 1: looking at possibly doing some of that stuff music related
Speaker 1: stuff in this new project to see if they respond
Speaker 1: to it. First of all, thanks for asking about the music.
Speaker 1: Quick tidy up on that is I just finished.
Speaker 2: I performed on Slash's new album, his blues album called
Speaker 2: Orgy of the Damn that I did some touring with him,
Speaker 2: great blues rock album. I'm always working on my Mother
Speaker 2: Earth album to get live performances happening, which is a
Speaker 2: celebration of nature.
Speaker 1: Through film and music. I have two new albums coming out.
Speaker 2: Actually, one is Little in that Americana acoustic genre that
Speaker 2: I love some. The other one is full on Rock
Speaker 2: being produced by Mike Klink, which is a Brammy Award
Speaker 2: winning producer.
Speaker 1: So yes, my music constant. In fact, if anything, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing right now, I'm doing music and
Speaker 1: a question a big But those are my two worlds
Speaker 1: right now. Wild Harvest will come along when it comes
Speaker 1: along that series. But these are my two worlds right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is one thing that I did not do,
Speaker 2: but I have seen it's cliche music, Sue the Savage Beast.
Speaker 2: I've seen that with animals, and I'm a musician. I've
Speaker 2: done it myself. Actually with harmonica. I remember I was
Speaker 2: able to bring in over to me, like an audience
Speaker 2: from across the other side of the lake, upwards of
Speaker 2: fifty loons. That's a water bird with a beautiful call.
Speaker 2: And I brought fifty of them with my harmonica over.
Speaker 2: I got wolves to howell with my harmonica. The word
Speaker 2: answer now is absolutely, We're going to see where that
Speaker 2: can go.
Speaker 1: I love it. This comes from our buddy Jake. He
Speaker 1: wants to know your thoughts on migration. This is something
Speaker 1: that's come up so many times. I finished my first book,
Speaker 1: Sasquatchu Least, the Truth behind the Legend, that came out
Speaker 1: earlier this year. Cliff actually wrote the forward to my book.
Speaker 1: It's a very scientific approach to Bigfoot, so we didn't
Speaker 1: really get a ton into migration because it's very subjective.
Speaker 1: But that's one of the things I've had conversations with
Speaker 1: people like Jeff and Cliff about. Jake wants to know
Speaker 1: your opinions on whether these things migrate, and do you
Speaker 1: think there's a large enough population in the lower forty
Speaker 1: eight and in Canada that could support the species, or
Speaker 1: do you think these things are in smaller groups and
Speaker 1: they're migrating based on climate, food, and other factors.
Speaker 2: So, based on my knowledge of natural history and the wilderness,
Speaker 2: in short, I think they've got to number somewhere between
Speaker 2: thirty and forty five thousand across North America. I think
Speaker 2: they are in small groups, so it makes sense. And
Speaker 2: I absolutely think they migrate, if not great distances, at
Speaker 2: least moderate distances like a herd of elkmight.
Speaker 1: I think they migrate based on weather patterns where they.
Speaker 2: Might exist, sleep their prey, whether that's berries or elk
Speaker 2: or everything in between, fish, salmon, and so on. I
Speaker 2: think they have homelands, But I think generally speaking, the
Speaker 2: answer the reason why because you have to name any
Speaker 2: hunter gatherer society that didn't migrate.
Speaker 1: There isn't one. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch outasy. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: They all had to migrate. Right now is when the
Speaker 2: kamus is ready. Right now, the berries are ready, the
Speaker 2: salmon is running over here. I follow the elk this
Speaker 2: way over there. They're most vulnerable in this moment, this
Speaker 2: time of the year, just on a purely physical level alone.
Speaker 1: That's the way I see it. I can't say that's
Speaker 1: the way it is, but that's the way I believe it.
Speaker 1: It probably is another purely subjective question here. If this
Speaker 1: is something that's come up recently. I've had conversations with
Speaker 1: a couple of people. I'm actually trying to get a
Speaker 1: couple of folks scheduled for an interview on the show
Speaker 1: to talk about this, because they've claim to have seen this.
Speaker 1: I've talked to Fred roll up in Alaska a couple
Speaker 1: of times, and Fred has interviewed folks who have claimed
Speaker 1: to have seen this as well. It's about the tree
Speaker 1: knocks that so many people have recorded. You mentioned finding
Speaker 1: Bigfoot earlier. It was something that they did constantly. It's
Speaker 1: something that a lot of researchers still do. I was
Speaker 1: out in the woods a couple of months ago that
Speaker 1: was happening. We brought a tree knocker and we were
Speaker 1: doing tree knocks. Do you think it's possible that these
Speaker 1: tree knocks that people are hearing are more of mouth
Speaker 1: pops versus tree knocks, so vocalizations as opposed to these
Speaker 1: things picking up a stick and hitting a tree.
Speaker 2: I did hear one perspective that I thought had some
Speaker 2: validity to it, that they are potentially mouth pops and
Speaker 2: not tree knocks. If you think about it, first of all,
Speaker 2: ahead that's going to be two to three times.
Speaker 1: Larger than mine. Yeah, you have a mouth cavity that's
Speaker 1: just massive.
Speaker 2: Knowing when and how and where to do that, you
Speaker 2: could have a very loud sounding up with that. That
Speaker 2: for us one hundred yards five hundred yards half a
Speaker 2: quarter mile away sounds like. One of the reasons that
Speaker 2: I like going down that road is.
Speaker 1: Because I suppose in their world they would know where
Speaker 1: the trees are.
Speaker 2: Me trying to find trees to make that sound, it's hard.
Speaker 2: It can't just be near any old swamp and find
Speaker 2: the right club and the right tree to hit it.
Speaker 2: And it makes that sound.
Speaker 1: Try it. Go ahead and try it.
Speaker 2: You'll be hard pressed to find something within hours that
Speaker 2: actually sounds like that. And now it has to be
Speaker 2: in the right place at the right time and create
Speaker 2: the right echo space. All of that being all of
Speaker 2: that together, that's not so easy. The different types of
Speaker 2: trees we have. If we're down here in Oregon, we
Speaker 2: have pine and madrone breeze. But if I'm up in Ontario,
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with birch and poplar.
Speaker 1: It's all so different. So if they can mouth pop
Speaker 1: if that's why would they do that. It's the problem
Speaker 1: for the skeptics and anybody out there who doesn't care
Speaker 1: about this, is it seems silly, doesn't Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big foot.
Speaker 2: The thing is, it's just going to be some form
Speaker 2: of rudimentary communication going on.
Speaker 1: Maybe they have advanced communication.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go there right now, but I
Speaker 2: will say that in terms of rudimentary communication, why not pops, whistles, pops, vocalizations, imitations.
Speaker 2: Of course, therein lies the danger of being led down
Speaker 2: the garden pathway of every time you hear a crow,
Speaker 2: it's a saasputch. Every time you hear an owl, it's
Speaker 2: a sasqutch, And then I've even done his No, that's
Speaker 2: an owl.
Speaker 1: They imitate owls. Oh good lord. So it's tricky. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I hope that answer your questions.
Speaker 2: I am intrigued by this way of communicating. As I say,
Speaker 2: a quarter kilometer of away echoed across the lake from
Speaker 2: a large jowled communicative feature certainly makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had Tom Powell on the show recently and
Speaker 1: Tom was showing me his technique of how he makes
Speaker 1: the mouth pops. It is really loud. If you get
Speaker 1: profision at it. I can certainly see something with baseball
Speaker 1: mit sized hands with this, like you said, an enormous jowl,
Speaker 1: I could definitely see it being something. It's more of
Speaker 1: a vocalization versus them finding a stick or a rock
Speaker 1: to hit a tree with. Here's an interesting question that
Speaker 1: comes from Tom. With all of your wilderness experience, and
Speaker 1: now the experience is that you've had that you believe
Speaker 1: maybe related to sasquatch, are there different precautions that you
Speaker 1: take before you go out into the wilderness that maybe
Speaker 1: you didn't take before because of the presence of these creatures.
Speaker 2: Zero, I take no precautions that way. The only precautions
Speaker 2: I take would be bear spray and grizzly territory, a
Speaker 2: rifle and polar bear territory, get back in the cage,
Speaker 2: and if I'm diving with white sharks, keep my eyes
Speaker 2: straight on a tiger and staying away from lines. That's
Speaker 2: my precautions. Otherwise, No, I don't want to come across
Speaker 2: as braggadoccio with it or anything.
Speaker 1: But I'm not cautious in the forest. I think that
Speaker 1: goes against the experience you're trying to have. You go
Speaker 1: out there with an AK forty seven ready to shoot
Speaker 1: down this big beast. O. Good luck with that. I'd
Speaker 1: rather be vulnerable and trust that it's not my time
Speaker 1: to die yet. Here's an interesting question that's come up
Speaker 1: multiple times. As I said, I wrote my first book,
Speaker 1: it was a very scientific book. I've just finished my
Speaker 1: second book, and it's a fictional line story about Bigfoot
Speaker 1: to answer some of these questions. In my opinion, this
Speaker 1: is one of the things that I addressed in the book,
Speaker 1: and some people have asked me this over and over.
Speaker 1: I've talked to one person who interviewed a person who
Speaker 1: has since passed away years ago who had an experience
Speaker 1: with a juvenile sasquatch that he grew up getting to know.
Speaker 1: According to him, he said that this bigfoot was able
Speaker 1: to make fire. And here's one of the questions that
Speaker 1: somebody asked on Reddit. Do you believe they have the
Speaker 1: ability to use or make fire? And do you believe
Speaker 1: that they might use cave systems and or hibernate during
Speaker 1: the wintertime and some of these harsher climates. The fire
Speaker 1: thing is out of my scope of even trying to
Speaker 1: deal with simply because my initial answer is in the
Speaker 1: negative for that one. It doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe on the odd occasion.
Speaker 2: But it would make them very vulnerable to being seen
Speaker 2: and discovered by us. For those researchers who find tracks
Speaker 2: questionable this and questionable that in tree structures and so on,
Speaker 2: will you start to find fire spots and then they say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: but then that could just be humans leading fire behind.
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting question, I don't think.
Speaker 2: So then again we go back to again over on
Speaker 2: this side of the scale with the question of where
Speaker 2: they live in hibernating and so on. If we're going
Speaker 2: to stay in that realm, it's purely a matter of biology.
Speaker 2: Let's take my chocolate labs, and my chocolate labs can
Speaker 2: jump in icy water and enjoy it and.
Speaker 1: Come out like nothing's have happened. I don't know how
Speaker 1: they do it, but they can do it.
Speaker 2: So a species like sasquatch that is so at home
Speaker 2: in the wilderness, whether or not they hibernate, I could
Speaker 2: see that being a reality for them up in Canada
Speaker 2: and Northern Canada. But if we're going to allow that
Speaker 2: there's many of them in that they're across North America,
Speaker 2: do they need to hibernate if it's a Florida skuncave.
Speaker 2: Do they need to hibernate in Oregon?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: And the other truism with hibernation is that it's not
Speaker 2: what people think it is. It's not like a bear
Speaker 2: goes off to sleep and never wakes up in the
Speaker 2: middle of winter or even never comes out in its den.
Speaker 2: Black bears will come out of their den in January
Speaker 2: and February if they just feel the airge to get
Speaker 2: up and stretch. It's a thing grizzly soup, houl of
Speaker 2: bear's suit. I don't think people should be imaging a
Speaker 2: family of a dozen sasquatch huddled together in a cave,
Speaker 2: hibernating out the winter. I think that's fanciful, thinking there'd
Speaker 2: be much more to it than that. The whole physiology
Speaker 2: of a black bear is built towards being able to
Speaker 2: sleep for months on end in that state of hibernation,
Speaker 2: living office fat reserves. How do we know that sasquatch
Speaker 2: can do the same or they more like us. We
Speaker 2: can't eat six months worth of food and then sleep
Speaker 2: for six months, and a black bear is a canine.
Speaker 2: It's a whole different trechctory of evolution. But as far
Speaker 2: as utilizing cave systems and so, all of that is
Speaker 2: just a big fact. Yes, why wouldn't they Why wouldn't
Speaker 2: they use cave systems underground tunnels? There's so much more
Speaker 2: of that out there than we know. I've found some,
Speaker 2: not saying I found Bigfoot cave, but I've found caves
Speaker 2: that nobody knew about because I was bushwhacking.
Speaker 1: There's so much of that out there, Like.
Speaker 2: There's a few million into the ground caves in North America.
Speaker 2: Not saying that because I know that scientifically, I'm guessing
Speaker 2: that's probably the case.
Speaker 1: So the answer is why wouldn't they. I would last
Speaker 1: couple of questions before we completely shift gears, before I'll
Speaker 1: let you get out of here. This has come up recently.
Speaker 1: I had a great listener who was into stats that
Speaker 1: was over from the UK and we had an entire
Speaker 1: show where he broke down some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: was on the BFRO. He looked through five thousand encounters
Speaker 1: and broke down the specific time of the year that
Speaker 1: you're more likely to have an experience with bigfoot. So
Speaker 1: this is a quick two part question for you. How
Speaker 1: long do you typically stay in an area that you
Speaker 1: researching specifically for the documentary and or just in general
Speaker 1: when it comes to bigfoot? And is there a specific
Speaker 1: time of year that you prefer to do that kind
Speaker 1: of study and look for these things when you're out
Speaker 1: in the woods.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that should be out there a month
Speaker 2: you aren't going to have any activity because most of
Speaker 2: my activities.
Speaker 1: Happened within hours. Now I can get into the details
Speaker 1: as to why I believe that's the case with me.
Speaker 2: I don't have anything special, but that most of it
Speaker 2: in some cases literally arriving on the spot and something
Speaker 2: goes down. Sure, I don't need to prove myself with
Speaker 2: my ability being able to stay out somewhere for a
Speaker 2: long time. I don't think that in this case, in
Speaker 2: this research, that I need that. Conversely, speaking, if you're
Speaker 2: being a researcher, I think it should be constant and consistent. Nonetheless,
Speaker 2: the problem with that is you can spend months with
Speaker 2: nothing and it becomes very disheartening. So it'll come down
Speaker 2: to your methodology. I'm sorry, Brian, what was the second question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the second part was is there a specific time
Speaker 1: of year that you prefer to go out that you've
Speaker 1: had more experiences. For example, the Gentleman that we had
Speaker 1: on from the UK, when he broke down the BFRO
Speaker 1: raw data, he found that October was basically October, November
Speaker 1: and December with the three biggest months for a potential
Speaker 1: sasquatch encounter. Have you seen that in your own research.
Speaker 1: Is there a specific time of year where you've had
Speaker 1: more experiences where you would maybe focus on being out
Speaker 1: in the woods looking for them. It's an interesting question
Speaker 1: because part of the problem I'd love to know how.
Speaker 2: That data was acquired and what the cross sections were,
Speaker 2: because for example, that also just happens to be the
Speaker 2: time when most hunters are out in the woods, they're
Speaker 2: not out there. You will find me lollygagging around the
Speaker 2: forest looking for a sasquatch encounter in the middle of
Speaker 2: June in northern.
Speaker 1: Ontario, Canada. No thanks, because I'll be that.
Speaker 2: The counter I will have will be a beast that
Speaker 2: is monstrous, that has made up of blackflies that are
Speaker 2: going to pick me up and carry me away, or mosquitoes.
Speaker 2: So we got nothing to do with that because another species,
Speaker 2: is that even a problem to them? We know black
Speaker 2: flies send musau to the forest going crazy.
Speaker 1: Is that a problem? Processible A jot o't No. Rigardness
Speaker 1: of winter is just brutal and painful and cold, So
Speaker 1: you don't find us at it there. You find most
Speaker 1: of us humans lollygagging around out in the woods, trekking
Speaker 1: out in the woods in that fall season. Maybe August,
Speaker 1: you could throw August and September in there for basic
Speaker 1: general hikers, but all of us, everybody who hunts, that's
Speaker 1: when we go. It's the most pleasant, it's the easiest,
Speaker 1: the bugs are gone, temperatures are good, so it could
Speaker 1: be just a subject of that. That said, I've seen
Speaker 1: other researchers with their footage from the winter, and think
Speaker 1: about it, if you're ever going to see tracks. When
Speaker 1: I used to do nothing but tracking regular animals, winter
Speaker 1: was my favorite time of year because trying to find
Speaker 1: that one patch of mud where Grizzly happened to walk in,
Speaker 1: that one patch of mud where I can.
Speaker 2: Cast his track, that's tough. Once you get into snow,
Speaker 2: get at the right time, all the tracks are there
Speaker 2: for you. So I think I'm answering a question by
Speaker 2: not answering the question. I would love to know and
Speaker 2: hear from people who spend more time in the winter,
Speaker 2: do they have better luck?
Speaker 1: Me myself?
Speaker 2: See, I had one of my more significant experiences in.
Speaker 1: Early spring, very significant. So did the person I was
Speaker 1: out with.
Speaker 2: There's a whole story behind when I took the fan
Speaker 2: out in a Survivorman episode that he and I have,
Speaker 2: Joseph McCollum. I have that is based on Bigfoot, which
Speaker 2: I didn't share in the Survivorman film.
Speaker 1: That was April.
Speaker 2: So I would not curtail Carol Anwel, I'll finish this.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't curtail my research based on the time of year.
Speaker 2: I would go when I could go, because also, you know,
Speaker 2: what April in Oregon's freaking beautiful. What a great time
Speaker 2: of year to go out. All depends on where you
Speaker 2: are Florida. Who cares what time of year you go
Speaker 2: in Florida.
Speaker 1: I've got to ask you about this. You and I
Speaker 1: talked about it. I sent you a couple of screenshots
Speaker 1: before we got on this morning, and I want to
Speaker 1: get into this video from Survivor Man Romania Part one
Speaker 1: in the Transylvanian Apps. This is something that came up
Speaker 1: on the radar probably five or six months ago. Wayne
Speaker 1: and I talked about it on that Bigfoot podcast. Are
Speaker 1: you aware of this possible sasquatch that you might have
Speaker 1: filmed over your shoulder? Well, how you were doing this?
Speaker 1: Tell us the scoop. What do you got to say
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, let's do it by talking about the
Speaker 1: other ones. No, we didn't see anything. Then we'd see
Speaker 1: on social media.
Speaker 2: Hey man, something ran across the road when you were there,
Speaker 2: and something's in the woods behind. These are other shows,
Speaker 2: other episodes, other sightings, And we were intrigued by this,
Speaker 2: and I would say to Barry or Luke or whoever
Speaker 2: was working on it, I'd say, pull up the original
Speaker 2: footage we won't get a clearer vantage of what that
Speaker 2: is without the original footage. Because what people make the
Speaker 2: mistake if you're not in a film production, what they're
Speaker 2: not aware of is that the footage when it finally
Speaker 2: gets to your television screen has been compressed, color grading,
Speaker 2: and all these different things go on. And even though
Speaker 2: it looks clean and clear and nice, the reality is
Speaker 2: it's not as clean and clear as nice as the
Speaker 2: actual tape or the card that the original clip is on.
Speaker 1: There's all this compression that happens. We have.
Speaker 2: Compressions comes what we call artifacts, and artifacts are things
Speaker 2: that you think are there that you look at.
Speaker 1: The originals not even there.
Speaker 2: So we started looking at these Barry and I when
Speaker 2: we were pulling them up, maybe Max Thatt would too,
Speaker 2: And every time it was like, yeah, it's a leaf
Speaker 2: in the foreground.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a branch in the wind. Okay. We could
Speaker 1: see that clearly.
Speaker 2: It was not a sasquatch running across the road. It
Speaker 2: was the movement of a shadow from the wind and
Speaker 2: the tree.
Speaker 1: It's just really clear.
Speaker 2: That said, we've answered all of those except this one,
Speaker 2: and this one we did not know about it and
Speaker 2: it is new within the scope of this film, we're
Speaker 2: going to be approaching that one.
Speaker 1: There's a few things to take into account here.
Speaker 2: Number one, it's in the Transylvanian elks in Romania. What
Speaker 2: other stories come from that region any at all? Would
Speaker 2: this be the only story that would ever come from
Speaker 2: that region? Or are there hundreds that'll change our thought
Speaker 2: on it? They're already like, oh yeah, and are you
Speaker 2: kitting in the Transylvania elks man, It's just like Targesh Mountains.
Speaker 1: I think it's called. There's all kinds of sightings and
Speaker 1: stay tuned for more SASQ watch out to see. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back after these messages. Okay, that might change
Speaker 1: how we look at it. We're going to pull up
Speaker 1: that footage. We did pull it up. I want to
Speaker 1: approach it in the film. What I can say is
Speaker 1: it was not answered by being a leaf or a
Speaker 1: branch or an artifact or anything like that at all. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also want to approach that whole one, and only
Speaker 2: because I think it's the only one where my editor
Speaker 2: and I are looking at it going what the hell
Speaker 2: all of the other.
Speaker 1: Ones and it's a leaf.
Speaker 2: So yes, it's going to be I'm quite confident it's
Speaker 2: going to make it into the film.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the documentary. The last question really is
Speaker 1: leading into that, and it comes from my buddy over
Speaker 1: at Bigfoot Society. Jeremiah wants to know will this be
Speaker 1: in theaters? Is it going to be on streaming platforms?
Speaker 1: What else can you possibly tell us about the documentary
Speaker 1: when we can expect it in anything? You want to
Speaker 1: close out letting the folks know about it, if I.
Speaker 2: Can do an isolated run in theaters where I think
Speaker 2: I'll actually get some people out to do it, or
Speaker 2: perhaps maybe screening it at at a big Foot conference.
Speaker 1: I've long been.
Speaker 2: Asked to join a lot of the different big of
Speaker 2: the conferences and been unable to are. They're good people,
Speaker 2: I just haven't been able to do it.
Speaker 1: So I think that.
Speaker 2: Would probably be very appropriate to say I go to
Speaker 2: the Ohio bit to the conference or something like that,
Speaker 2: or the one in Washington and say that we're going
Speaker 2: to screen.
Speaker 1: The film and I'll be there.
Speaker 2: That would make a lot of sense. Number two would
Speaker 2: be on the network television side of it. They're hard
Speaker 2: breaths to take stuff like this. It's a battleground trying to.
Speaker 1: Get your stuff on these places. Maybe Netflix, maybe, but
Speaker 1: they drank the reality TV cool eight years ago and
Speaker 1: that's all they really want. So if this hasn't got
Speaker 1: that reality sensationalism to it, if it has it with
Speaker 1: some earnestness, they don't want it. So I'd be left
Speaker 1: to streaming, of course, which in that case opens me
Speaker 1: up certainly up to Prime as well to my distribution company,
Speaker 1: who could distribute around the world because there are there
Speaker 1: is the odd network that will take it, and then
Speaker 1: of course YouTube. There you have it, folks, the question
Speaker 1: of bigfoot Less drout. I will link to everything that
Speaker 1: Less talked about in the show notes today, specifically the
Speaker 1: Kickstarter folks. These things do not make themselves. It is
Speaker 1: an expensive venture to get into good filmmaking. To do
Speaker 1: what Less does. He cannot do it without you, guys.
Speaker 1: Make sure you click the button right here in the
Speaker 1: show notes go over to Kickstarter right now. Give whatever
Speaker 1: you can. If it's a dollar, if it's ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: It is going to help us answer these questions, and
Speaker 1: Less Stroud, in my opinion, is the man to do it.
Speaker 1: Less thank you so much for taking the time to
Speaker 1: come on and share everything with us today. We are
Speaker 1: so looking forward to this and I can't thank you
Speaker 1: enough for your time.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Brian, and certainly let's get me right back on
Speaker 2: with you. When I have that film to present, we'll
Speaker 2: get into it and I'll be happy to dissect it
Speaker 2: with you and we'll have some funny get it. It's
Speaker 2: a joy to talk with you again.
Speaker 1: Excellent, my friend.
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