Speaker 1: All start to you to present off the bench. This
is what we have been waiting for.
Speaker 2: Off the bench. I gotta come off the fitch.
Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester. All right, welcome back in OTV.
Here on a Friday morning. The gang's all here now.
Flynn showed up on time. So proud of him. He's
really growing up as he's almost forty years old. Coming
up here.
Speaker 3: Let's see twenty days, twenty eight days, right, I got
my math right, June twentieth.
Speaker 2: Let's see. He sounds about right. I got to I
don't know how many days are.
Speaker 1: Problem Like Harlowe had my watch yesterday and she loves
playing with my watch. But the problem is she did
something that I don't know how to reverse on it.
And I usually had the date like right here. I
don't know what in the world he did. I can't
and I can't get back. I can't figure it out.
I can't figure how to get back to the page
that I want to.
Speaker 2: So you'll get it.
Speaker 1: We looked it up during the break. Colt McCoy did
have stars.
Speaker 3: He had three, like I was listening to Colt talk
and I came in here just Colin b.
Speaker 2: S on him.
Speaker 1: You did, but Colt's like so nice.
Speaker 2: At that time, they had just come off of Natty.
Speaker 3: He's oh five, so they won that year. Yeah, yeah,
they're going to win.
Speaker 2: Well they did win a national championship.
Speaker 1: He always acts like you did five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like you're not signing with Texas at that
time without a star. I heard him say that, and
I was like, no way.
Speaker 1: You say that. But the class before I almost signed
with him as a two star.
Speaker 2: Well at least that's two. At least it's terrible.
Speaker 1: But he had three. They he probably had two. And
then as these recruiting services, do they give you another?
Why they why? They like, do you all? I think
we see that, we know what you're in. By the way,
it was seventy third in the state of Texas, fifteenth
quarterback overall. But we know you're doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you're seventy third in Texas, you get
a star.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially back then where it wasn't you didn't have
all the access to the footage, the clips, the high school.
So these high school I guess recruiting services were going
out and physically watching football games.
Speaker 2: Maybe they couldn't make it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where that did you find it's
just south of but I mean his his offers, his
best offers. Texas obviously, but Georgia Tech, k State, Missoo, Purdue,
A and m It's not terrible. I mean, but like
going back to these recruiting services, I think you're.
Speaker 2: The West who was who? But you? You were so
you were committed to Texas.
Speaker 1: Oh I was a class before though, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like what when you were recruited by Texas? Where else
at the time? Did you have offers or did they
just like dumpster diving for you?
Speaker 2: Low start?
Speaker 1: This guy's got one more star and thinks he's cool.
I had Miami, I had Auburn, had Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: So that's the thing I don't understand is how were
these recruiting services not giving people at the time like.
Speaker 2: Pretty good college mac Brown done pretty decent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ruiting services. That's why I like still to this day,
and they've gotten better and there's more, there's more footage
out there. It's easier like back in the day, like
you're just like you're pissing in the wind and it's
like what are we doing here? Like you't even know
who I am because my Vhaes tape that I've got
Triple Hus theme music over trying to act hard has
not found its way to you yet. I went to
Nike camp my sophomore year and got underclassmen of the
camp and so like I thought, man, I'm doing something.
I'm about to get like all these star wars and
you give me too short legs, pumping, pumping hard, so
hard I had. I'm sure I had frosted tips. That
impressed them. They listened to lf on the way into
the camp, are like, he looks like he's a member
of LFO.
Speaker 2: Hey Mac, mac Mac is it? Is it a Puka
show necklace? Offer him off. That guy's hard.
Speaker 1: What are we doing? It was at A and M.
Speaker 3: It was when they had the old astro turf, like
actual astro turf.
Speaker 1: It was hot as hell.
Speaker 3: The hottest I've ever been in my life was at
that Narcy in College station.
Speaker 2: So that turf field sucked.
Speaker 1: It was bad.
Speaker 2: So we had multiple like.
Speaker 3: Seven on seven tournaments that culminated at Texas A.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that they had that cave. I
didn't know they had that. So like I only brought
cleats and they're like no, no, no, no, And so all
I had was. I had Rebok Classics and that's what
I worked out and ran the forty and did the
whole deal in Rebok Classics.
Speaker 2: What camp was that?
Speaker 1: Nike Camp?
Speaker 2: Okay, so we were at the same Nike camp we were, Yeah,
for sure was run.
Speaker 1: I don't know, But you know what, you didn't get
Underclassmen of the Camp and I did.
Speaker 3: And you were a junior. I was a sophomore. How
does that make you feel? That's not even an award.
They just told you that it was vacation.
Speaker 1: When I say, Nancy Hester, if you're listening right now,
you probably have that saved somewhere because you.
Speaker 3: Do things like is it like a paper certificate? No,
it's in a publication. It was Nike Camp, College Station
tex Journal. No, that's not a thing.
Speaker 1: Underclassmen of Camp, your boy, your boy three or four times?
By the way, is the paper? You grew up in
a place that probably didn't even have their own paper,
like y'all have Dallas's paper delivered to your doorstep.
Speaker 2: Tyler Morning Telegraph, Son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big publication. I remember that one.
Speaker 4: It's not hard to forget, oh yeah, Tyler Morning Telegraph.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've always forgot it.
Speaker 4: I already forgot it.
Speaker 2: I got They had some great articles still.
Speaker 4: Do name one.
Speaker 1: Did you get Texas?
Speaker 2: By the way, I did not, ah nerd.
Speaker 3: It was the year after they signed Vincy Young. I
didn't even watch. I didn't want it.
Speaker 2: They knew they was just pissing in the wind. I
didn't even want it. I did.
Speaker 3: I really wanted to get offered by Tennessee. Really in
high school, that is where I wanted to go as
like an underclassman case fan.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: So I went to when I was a sophomore. My
best friend in high school was committed to Alabama. He
was a year older than me, offensive lineman. And so
I went to a game. It's either my sophomore or
junior year. I went to a game and it was
Tennessee versus Alabama in Tuscaloosa. Casey Clawson thrown to Jason
Whitten like, so I was there with Alabama like on
the field doing all the stuff, and I was like,
this is the most unbelievable experience.
Speaker 2: Of my life. Like because I had grown up a
Baylor fan. Whole family went there.
Speaker 3: My dad play quarterback there, So I grew up going
to wake there like every single home game the old
Floyd Ksey Stadium. Baylor football is what I knew as
college football. And I show up the Tuscaloosa for Tennessee
visiting Alabama. Now I look around and I'm, you know,
fifteen years old whatever, like just trying to make it
in high school football, trying to be.
Speaker 2: A starter there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like all the RVs, like the whole
you know, you get it. I was like, what the
hell is this? Right know, Baylor but completely different.
Speaker 2: I mean, completely different situation.
Speaker 3: So I go there and I'm at the game and like, yep,
SEC is where I'm going to play football if I
have the opportunity. But then I hear you're gonna You're
gonna kill me for this. But like I fell in
love with Rocky Rockey, top I did?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 2: I know? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Never I go back home, and you know, that was
big into like the early days of NCAA football. So
like everybody on the ball team, we'd all get together,
me and the receivers dbs play NCAA football tournaments and
so Tennessee was my squad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I sent them no less than.
Speaker 3: Twelve sick VHS tapes of me just diceing some little
kids up in high school for.
Speaker 1: Six times a game.
Speaker 3: And you know, back then, like you would have trash
bags full of recruiting envelopes questionnaires from every single country,
like they don't even know who, Like they just sent
them to whoever's on recruiting. The big high school for sure,
the big high schools gets. And we had a bunch
of like d one guys in my high school, so
we always had stuff, right, Yeah, and that was you
got to if you got an envelope in your locker
that day, it was.
Speaker 2: Like a big deal buddet.
Speaker 1: So everybody saw.
Speaker 3: So Like I say this because every everybody, if you
were worth like anything in high school football, like he
got a letter, you at least got a questioning I
sent to you from every school.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't get one thing from Tennessee Sons of Guns.
They watched the tape. They watched the tape.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: They didn't love it.
Speaker 2: I kept every day I got my locker, I'm looking
for an orange.
Speaker 1: You know who they they were. You know their number
one target was actually my high school quarterback the same year,
John David Booty. Yeah, I was like, oh he was
the year after me, I know, but remember he reclassified oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he wasn't twenty one yet and he got.
Speaker 1: It, so he actually went in your class.
Speaker 3: Well, most of the seniors at evangel Or League, they can
legally drink, right, yeah, yeah, obviously, and we're driving in
eighth grade and there's no doubt about it. Actually, yeah,
that's not that used to be fifteen. It used to
be fifteen. Oh Texas A and m offer yeah, okay,
because they had Reggie McNeil. Okay, look so uh A
and m offered and I can't I guess it was
our c selok at the time, I can't remember. Dino
Babers was oc oh wow. And they had and Drew
Yeah eight if you remember that. Yeah, the guy that
beat us, the guy that quarterback, So he.
Speaker 1: Was deeper than the deepest guys.
Speaker 3: He was Baytown League quarterback. We were the same, and
I was Tyler League quarterback. But he threw it like
sixty times a game. I threw like six. So he
was like the all everything. Like most lists, he was
like the number one in Texas. I was like the
number two or three or whatever. He'd been committed since
a sophomore in high school and M. Yeah, and at
that time that wasn't a thing like you didn't commit
that and so yeah, and I remember Dino Baber's looking
at me in the eye to camp. We're like, yeah,
you're You're definitely behind Drew on our list. And I
was like, okay, cool, well I'm in.
Speaker 1: A great recruiting.
Speaker 2: He's like, we're not going to offer you.
Speaker 3: But then, uh, who was it FRANCIONI went from So
he was one of my first offers at Alabama, was
one of my first offers. Franoni really wanted me, and
so he went over to Texas A and M and
took the job. Yep, when we were getting recruited right
before but not too long before signing day for our class,
right and I remember watching the press conference and he's
sitting there doing the press conference, doing the whole deal,
like accepting the job. He gets done with the press
conference in like thirty seconds later, my phone rings and
he was he.
Speaker 2: Was calling me from backstage. Yeah, he was like, yeah,
I want you to be the quarterback. He's like, yeah,
we just took the took the other.
Speaker 1: Scholarship away, Oh wow from Drew.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they took it away.
Speaker 3: But I'm not trying to be funny, like there's a
reason why he ended up in Iowa.
Speaker 1: Wait, what year was Reggie McNeil?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: Was he not your year from Luff?
Speaker 2: No, Reggie McNeil was old.
Speaker 3: He was a year older than Oh okay, because we
played against him a bunch at high school.
Speaker 2: What a stud?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he picked me off three times in a high
school game. I caught him from behind in high school.
True story was he hurt. Had to be good, lord,
you were You're kind of fat too, right.
Speaker 1: That was a two fifty. I was out there chugging.
Actually that year. I was playing a little linebacker. But
he was a stud. We played them on like the
after September eleventh and one. We were like one of
the first live sporting events to play really yeah, like
Texas high school football shocker, Like we go to Lufkin.
They turned the heat on in the locker room September
in Texas, East Texas, so like hotter than hot. We
got people cramping up. I was like, man, gosh, our
country's kind of going through some stuff. Y'all want to
like not be you know, yeah, like the heads please
we beat them.
Speaker 2: Though there we go. We beat them. They were tough, So.
Speaker 1: Y'all were the only team that was scared to play us.
We played Lufkin, Longview, Marshall, Dallas, Carter played all those
teams except y'all John Tyler.
Speaker 3: So, so listen to the district I was in. It
used to be so it was six teams, but it
dropped down to four and it was just Tyler, Lee,
John Tyler, Lufkin, and Longview. And for like those people
down here that don't really realize that that's like four
at the time.
Speaker 1: Huge our listeners in the Ports City right now definitely get.
Speaker 3: We had so we had sixty one signings on my
team that year. John Tyler had three that signed with
the University of Texas. On their defense, Lufkin had, you know,
Reggie McNeil, parents Terrence the quarter he was quarterback for
Baylor for a couple of years. All of you had
the tight end that went to Florida, Malcolm.
Speaker 2: Kelly.
Speaker 3: They had their quarterback was the quarterback at Rice University.
For like, we had a and we played a double
round robins. We just like kept beating up on each other.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, only four teams, How did
that work out in conference.
Speaker 3: Take Casey's long view, it's not a big deal. Six
that would have been a big deal. They lost the
long deal there.
Speaker 4: Have you all ever heard Malcolm Kelly's freestyle?
Speaker 1: Know? I have? I when he was at Oklahoma? Yeah,
can we play that?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: Guy language?
Speaker 4: And I don't think it has because he was doing
it in front well, I guess it doesn't matter, but
he was doing it in front of coach.
Speaker 2: Goodiest Texas boy. He wouldn't have curse words in it.
Speaker 1: I think he probably would.
Speaker 4: I mean I think I mentioned him one time and
everybody was like, how do you know who Malcolm that is?
Speaker 3: That is a deep cut for you. We played them
in Independent Stadium one time. Dude's like, like forty thousand
people in to a high school game.
Speaker 1: Jeez, Actually did we win that or we losing? I
think we actually lost. We lost that game.
Speaker 3: I remember being in eighth grade going to watch evangel
playing Tyler against John Tyler with Brock Berlin.
Speaker 2: And it was the.
Speaker 3: Most euphoric, like mind blowing experience I've ever seen for
a quarterback. For a quarterback to go watch this seven
yard shot gun plus a seven step drop. But we
were probably, Honestly, I'm not trying to be funny. Probably
more of a ten yard. It might have been, like
I wanted to say nine when before I started that sentence,
but I dropped it down to seven to be like.
Speaker 1: No, we didn't have offensive line.
Speaker 2: He would throw for three hundred yards in the first half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and from a quarterback like a middle school quarterback
that did a three step like dump pass to the
tight end.
Speaker 2: Once a game.
Speaker 3: I was like, what the hell, Yeah, am I'm watching
right now?
Speaker 2: So this is the greatest court. Like Troy Aikman's good.
Speaker 1: That's why we were exactly good. But Brock Berlin, but
Brock Burlyin. That's why we were so good. We had
great coaches, like we had former offensive coordinators from Louisiana Tech,
decordinators from Louisiana Monroe, like at the high school level.
And also we were doing this offense and nobody else did.
Nobody was five y back in the late nineties. We were.
Speaker 3: John Tyler won five state champions in the nineties that
ran up into that game because it's like two thousand
probably when I and so like, they were the powerhouse,
but they never threw the ball one time. Yeah, like
they would run like scat eight, scat nine, and like
they it was like this weird like pitch where they
would spin it underhand to the to the tailback going
as fast as and they had like nine great running
backs all the time, so they were fresh. They I
can only imagine what their defensive coordinator a head coach
were doing during that game, like trying to prepare for
it for one with like their scout team quarterback somehow
that never throws the ball, and they just got blown.
Speaker 2: Out of the stadium. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was sitting there just with like my draw my
jaw on the ground, and I looked over my dad doing.
Speaker 1: The same thing, like should it just come all over?
Speaker 2: No, y'all didn't.
Speaker 3: Y'all didn't block, chop block or anything. So it wasn't
real football. So for the listeners that didn't haven't heard,
our coaches could never agree to play each other because
our offense had a lot of like chop blocking and throwing,
and their offenses they were a little weak here in Louisiana, sure, Bud, Sure.
Speaker 2: So they were scared. They were scared to come to Tyler,
is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Longview we went to Lufkin, and
we went to Marshall, but scared to go to Flynn.
We pulled up the USA Today article where your coach?
Speaker 2: Here you go?
Speaker 3: An article wrote written by who USA Today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a person behind that keyboard.
Speaker 1: My gosh, Daniel said, Damn Jake really be from Dallas
having played all these Texas high schools.
Speaker 3: Uh not really? Like I look, it's better than me
and reports Louisiana. But here's the deal. You shut your mouth.
Here's the deal. Okay, Like none of those schools in
Louisiana wanted to play us.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't play us West Monroe. I give you a
lot of credit you did, like you played this now
we won all those games except one, but you played
us and it was good. Battles was back and forth,
like John Curtis Catholic, all the New Orleans schools.
Speaker 3: Man, we could not get a game like Rummel would
play us some A little bit was that in the postseason.
I don't know, but like we couldn't get those games.
Speaker 1: And like in the Shreveport area, we like there wasn't
another real powerhouse like Bird was okay, but there wasn't that.
So we had to go play Washitall and Neville and
West Monroe and those teams, and then like nobody from
south of Alexandria would play us.
Speaker 3: They just they wouldn't. So we had to go play
East Texas. What was the what was the best team
that I played in East Texas? I think it's Long
VIEWEWO was really good. Lobos, Yeah, and they always had
they had a ton of D one guys all the time.
Speaker 1: It didn't really matter. Now we played like.
Speaker 2: Yo, yall yell.
Speaker 3: Was just a weird, bad matchup, Like it's not a
fun It's like scheduling a really good triple option team,
Like why would you do it? Especially at that time
they were doing something. There's no way to prep for it, right,
it's just like, let's see what happens out here again
because nobody did it. Yeah, like you're playing your service academy.
Now you're like, why did we schedule this?
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, it's the same. That's why people didn't play.
Speaker 1: But yeah, John Curtis beat evangel multiple times in the
playoffs in the nineties. They did not. They didn't. You
can't find that because that did not happen. I think
we played them opening game in nineteen ninety nine, we
beat him there. I think that was the first matchup.
But that that's just false, like that didn't that didn't happen.
Speaker 3: To be fair, most of the Catholic League schools didn't
play outside of the city very often.
Speaker 1: Romo and Curtis were the only ones that really did it.
Maybe that's maybe that's why I don't know. Streetport equals
South Arkansas's closer to Texas, and it is Arkansas. And
in fact, bet Rouge is closer to Mississippi than Shreveport
is to Arkansas. So there's that Streetport is the Yanks
of LA. Sure, because we're up north, that Streeport would
be East Texas.
Speaker 2: But we didn't want them. We don't block quarterback for
long of you back then? Armstrong, how's his name?
Speaker 1: That's the whole That's what you've been trying to figure
out all my head. Okay, good player.
Speaker 3: Uh. Those old evangel teams usually played a few out
of state teams a year. My senior year we played
daily South California, Hoover, Alabama, Burns South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Y'all play that your senior year?
Speaker 1: Yeah? None, which ones y'all travel to California?
Speaker 2: How y'all.
Speaker 1: We lost twenty that is that where they were on
the team.
Speaker 3: Game winus streak. They know we're long, we gotta take
a break. They like they didn't have Jimmy's and Joe's
like that. But what they had is they were all
in unison, like their offense and defense. Whatever the coach said, Hey,
this is what.
Speaker 1: We're going to do. It was like perfection. They were
the old school Flynn. They were the down hut and
they all went in every movement, every play. I was like,
what in the pop Warner are we watching here?
Speaker 2: But it worked for them.
Speaker 1: They were solid, Pa, Yes, yes, they were solid. So yeah,
we beat I think it was twenty four or fourteen,
might be twenty four to ten. That wasn't our best year.
Like we lost in the state championship that year. We
didn't have a normal quarterback like we normally would have.
Speaker 4: But what was your uh oh wait, hold on, what
was your classification? Like three A?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were five. Ay, we'll try that.
Speaker 3: There was a different rule back then, right, you had
to play you didn't have that many.
Speaker 2: People in school.
Speaker 1: We were one a size, one a size, but you
could play up. I think that rules back now you
can play up. They tried too.
Speaker 2: I know it's a lot, it's challenging.
Speaker 1: It was a lot. Go South. You know you can't
find John Curtis and Evangel. That's not gonna happen. My god,
I don't really know. I don't I don't.
Speaker 4: Remember Evangel in nineteen ninety two Evangel versus Plain Dealing,
y'all won that one.
Speaker 1: Plaine Deally and then y'all won against.
Speaker 4: Crowville in the regionals quarterfinals against Oak Grove Beach on
the quarterfinals.
Speaker 1: I was like, that was like earlier days of Evangels.
I might have been like the first year they played football.
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Speaker 3: Mind better be problem even when I move me, still
gotta love me.
Speaker 2: Y'all. Can be the lead for date, that's fine, but literally.
Speaker 1: On time a mile so it's just driveling less.
Speaker 2: Jesus is just a little.
Speaker 1: Matt Ce did do some research. I didn't realize ev
angel and John Curtis played so many times. I was like,
in the two thousands, look full disclosure. It's not a secret.
When I got done at Evangel on three, I haven't
been back since like since then, really rude, may well,
I mean, just haven't you don't really like, Oh, I
don't care respect for where you came from. Well, I
mean I left and then I don't. I never really
went back to Shrevepard, And you know, I tell the
story often Denver Broncos coach fox up there, trying to
make a point of everybody's been the man at some
point in their career. Raise your hand if your high
school jersey isn't retired. And it was me and the punter.
The punter, the punter, wow uh Colquit was his name, Tennessee.
There's a lot of people lying then, for sure.
Speaker 3: But still I look around, everybody's got their hand up,
and Foxy was just trying to make a point. I'm like,
damn Angel, although I think the only number that is
retired for Evangel is Josh Booty the ten, not Brock Berlin.
Speaker 1: I know Rock Berlin, National Player of the Year Man,
USA Today, Player of the Year, Gatorade Player of the
Year in the Nation, brought Berlin day in.
Speaker 3: Shreveport after he won the award, and number seven's not retired.
Speaker 2: That's pretty unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was the highest a long time, like sixty ninth overall.
They who beat it, Tillary, I think was his name
from Notre Dame. He was a first rounder. But can
we get to thirteen? Can we get that game retired
as your jersey retired at Tayland.
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't even first team All district? Why do
you think? Why do you think I remember Joel Armstrong's name?
Speaker 1: You weren't first team All district in high school?
Speaker 2: Like, look, I think all the issue.
Speaker 3: You give me for being a two star recruit and
you weren't even first team All district. I was a
state player of the year in five A and you
give me hell not so subtle brag.
Speaker 1: Well, I have to with you, and you weren't all district.
You show up in your all dis you put your
name on the front of the sheet in your all district.
Speaker 2: We played real teams.
Speaker 3: It sounds like, yeah, because us traveling to California to
play a team that was one sixty five and oh
wasn't a real team?
Speaker 2: We can we go forward, can travel to play.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, not even all district? Were you second team?
Were you honorable mention?
Speaker 2: That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I actually team in your district. I did you know
how hard that is?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 1: To make it?
Speaker 2: What we had good teams. That's the ball eight times
a game. What do you want? What do you want
from me? M?
Speaker 1: I want you to be first team All District?
Speaker 2: Do you think I should call them?
Speaker 1: All?
Speaker 2: Right, let's get a recount?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: How about this stab by the way? Because I can't
believe that I'm embarrassed for you, I'm gonna move on
from that. See here's a fun fact I found out
about the Curtis versus evangel rivalry. From two thousand and
seven to twenty and thirteen, the only playoff game losses
each team had was to each other. Curtis was thirty
one and two and Evangel was twenty six and five.
That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: And I didn't mean like a bunch of pillow fights
up there, Mark? What is in Curtis is in New
Orleans area?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things going against you. Today. We
played every team in your district outside of y'all. Y'all
think we were just scared of the team that didn't
have a quarterback on the first team All District.
Speaker 3: And become and because like what some twenty four year
old mouth breather wrote an article about it, You think
that we were the ones.
Speaker 2: That were scared.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a twenty four year old writing
for USA today.
Speaker 3: Probably No, just trying to cut his teeth, trying to
make a splash by creating lies and false propaganda.
Speaker 1: Oh what did the quarterback? They got first team All District?
What did he become?
Speaker 2: Uh? He was the quarterback of Rice for a couple
of years.
Speaker 3: Okay, he was the long View quarterback all right, all right,
so I probably played against him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, So, Yeah, he's a good player. He is
good runner, you know.
Speaker 1: Uh, we are somewhat joking up here about that, although
I am embarrassed for you. I'll never forget this. When
I first got the l s U, like nobody, nobody
from North Louisiana signed that year, and nobody really from
my high school our area was here outside of like
one one or two players, right, so I didn't know
a whole lot of people. So I'm, you know, trying
to hang out with everybody, see who I can click
with whatever whatever, And Ali Bruce Star was in the
running back room, and I was like, man, it's gonna
be cool, Like Justin just had a big year. Ali
had a big year. Shyrone Joe like great running back room.
And the first thing Ali Brustard said to me was like, man,
they stole five A Player of the Year from me,
Like you didn't deserve it. It should have been me. And
I was like, nice to meet you, hey, p Literally
the first thing is teammate right out of the gates.
So I had that that day. And then also my
good friend Sean Jordan and we both know love sj.
We played the same position like when I first got
here because I was gonna go play fullback. I wasn't
playing running ba until my junior year and straight face
because you like, I had played receiver at evangel So
I was like, yeah, was two of five, two ten
like and I had to you know, it's gonna have
to gain weight. And I knew that. But Sja comes
up to me, He's like, hey, man, what's going on
with your name?
Speaker 2: I'm telling me.
Speaker 1: He goes, all right, well what position you play? Kicker? No, brouh.
We played the same position.
Speaker 3: Bro'm a two star fullback slash defensive lineman slash receiver
like oh and he was so genuine like it wasn't
shade because if you know, like, oh yeah, he doesn't
know sports like that, Like he doesn't follow recruiting rankings
like s. J's just like I'm big, I'm strong, I'm
a badass. I can block, yeah, but I can be
like so nice because I know I can't destroy you exactly.
He thought I was a kicker straight up. It's like
we're actually competing for the same job.
Speaker 2: He's like, nah, He's like, are you sure that can't
be right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was. And back then you didn't have like
the training table like they have now. Like now you
go over there and it's like everything's broken down and
everybody's got like their set of supplements that they take,
and everybody's got their drink that they take, and it's
all labeled by name.
Speaker 3: For us, it's like we're going to the Pentagon. The
Pentagon missed. Alphine's gonna be there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got fried chicken, we got fried pork chops.
Speaker 3: Yet fried fish and corn bread muffins was a soggy
salad in the corner watching your way, Yeah, but I
had to gain corn bread muffins they elite, but I
had to gain weight, and so like there wasn't like,
hey you eat you know, two grilled chickens.
Speaker 1: Here a steak here, blah blah blah. Moffet's like, hey,
we got the Bluebell ice cream in the corner at
the Pentagon. Yep, I want you.
Speaker 3: To get three scoops of Bluebell ice cream every day
after your meal.
Speaker 1: And that was the plan for me to gain weight.
Was three scoops of Bluebell ice cream.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Things were different, like if you body fat tested, I
remember doing that and there was like only one time
I was like under the it was like eight percent
or something like that. If you were under a certain
percent like they gave, they made you eat ice cream
every night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that. That was what they thought was
the way d one nutrition come a long way, and
so as Matt Flynn made it stronger being an honorable mention.
And guess what all district.
Speaker 3: QUI those ice cream eaters we used to whip everyone's ass.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Mm hm, honorable mention.
Speaker 1: Baby, We're gonna look it up. What district were you?
Speaker 2: District twelve five A.
Speaker 3: I believe twelve five A two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: Two, two thousand and two. We'll take a break, we'll
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Speaker 3: Ah, my xes live in Texas.
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my head head in Tennesse.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTB one O four five, ESPN,
Baton rouge. The whole gang is here trying to find
out if Matt did in fact make the honorable mention
all district team in a four team district.
Speaker 1: We'll see if we can get that information. It's kind
of tough. The archives. Yeah, don't really want to go
back to two thousand and two.
Speaker 3: Y'all said, y'all talked that ish about Tyler Morning telegraphed
it probably.
Speaker 4: The archives, Probably Tyler Morning Telegraph.
Speaker 1: The editor.
Speaker 3: Can we get an editor on the You got to
go to the Tyler Courthouse and look at the archives.
Speaker 1: Oh, it probably really does though. That's a that's a
great point. I apologize. I read.
Speaker 3: I read the book by its cover. How you doing
with technology over there, Bud? You've been trying to create
a user name so you can be in the chat
for I'm trying to get a thirty minute chat.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, what should my handle name be?
Speaker 3: Because you know, all the standard things are taken, and
then I was kept trying to load it and it
wouldn't lead.
Speaker 2: I had to update my app. So I think we're
good now.
Speaker 1: You know, you're probably going to need to bring your laptop, yeah,
because I don't think we can have you trying to
YouTube chat on your phone during the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I got a plan. So, like I'm
still here as a guest a little bit, so I'm
not just chopping it up.
Speaker 1: We are just chopping it up with that's what we're
gonna do every Friday. But you got a key card
now with your name on.
Speaker 2: I do got it today.
Speaker 1: That's official.
Speaker 4: Also, if you get the app, you can open it
with your phone or your hand.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you get the app.
Speaker 4: You just you wave your hand in front of the
thing and it lets you makes you feel it makes
you feel like pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like powerful.
Speaker 4: Actually I don't know about pretty cool. It kind of
makes me feel like I have a chip in me,
and that's what does not love that. I don't love it.
Speaker 3: Ask you follow up question, how do you feel about
the chipping CROSSSS?
Speaker 4: I would love if I didn't have a chip in
my body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I don't want one. Yeah, we're talking market
the beast.
Speaker 4: Like, if you think about it, we kind of already
have chips. Like our phone is a chip and it
just follows us.
Speaker 2: It's always on it just like.
Speaker 4: To you, honestly, it reads your mind. Have you ever
thought about something and it comes up as an AD
on your phone.
Speaker 1: And you didn't even say it out loud?
Speaker 4: Saying it out loud? I understand, but I thought this
and it came up on my phone.
Speaker 1: Also, what I'm looking for? What?
Speaker 4: Like, what an honorable mention? I kind of tuned y'all out,
So like, what exactly am I looking for?
Speaker 1: You tuned U out? What a great just what a
great start? You know I do this often.
Speaker 3: Two thousand and two his honorable mention District twelve five A.
Speaker 4: Yes, because I that's I looked all this up. Two
thousand and two, District twelve five A. I can't like,
what's district team?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Or team?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, he wasn't even first team,
which is funny to us. Funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two thousand and two there's an All East Excess
team as well. Robert E.
Speaker 1: Lee Yeah, it's like an all Metro probably.
Speaker 4: Type team high school football.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna find it.
Speaker 2: Got me all freaked out about this chip stuff.
Speaker 1: Now about I mean you already have it. Yeah, it
is your phone, but get that.
Speaker 4: I try to look on Wikipedia. There's nothing about you
having an honorable mention on Wikipedia.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna do some deep digging.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try my best.
Speaker 3: I think I think my parents, like a couple of
years ago, brought all my stuff down. Yeah, my letter jackets.
I didn't look at those patches. I can find the patches.
Speaker 2: It'll tell you. They'll tell you exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, so we're all all patched up on
your letter jackets. It was like a huge thing in Texas, like, yeah,
all the patches. I wish I wish we were Actually
we weren't. At least my class wasn't. I would have
loved to have like all the like the patches all
the way down the sleeve.
Speaker 1: No that I've been all.
Speaker 4: Cletus McGee was on the all district team in two
thousand and two in Texas.
Speaker 2: Wait Klayus McGee.
Speaker 1: I think I played with him in San Diego.
Speaker 4: He was he was at two lane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, does it say school? I think I played with him.
I'm pretty sure we played together in San Diego. But
you don't see a Matt Flinn.
Speaker 4: I don't see a Matt flud Not yet, fair enough
the All East Texas first team?
Speaker 1: Is that what?
Speaker 4: I'm the All East Tech because that's what Cletus McGee
was on.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, if you weren't on the All
District team, there's not a chance in hell you're on
the East Texas team.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to find this.
Speaker 2: That's everybody.
Speaker 1: How did Jimbo find you? Iady go to find you.
Speaker 2: Hey, back in the day, those camps are important camps.
Speaker 1: Baby, I think they kind of are now too.
Speaker 3: It's because, like we didn't throw the ball much, but
when we threw it, we got it. Like my coach
was so my coach was h old offensive lineman played
at two lane, wanted to run that pill.
Speaker 2: I wanted to run that. Then.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like triple option. It was like we're gonna
spread them out. We had, we had a lot of talent.
He and he would sit there and watch every single
one of our.
Speaker 2: Seven on seven games.
Speaker 3: We did all the summer seven on A seven leagues tournaments,
go to state and we dominated people throwing it all
over the place. It was beating never like we we
never won. Like the state state tournament we got beat.
We just when you get to that level, it's like
who gets the ball last, because everybody's scoring every time.
Speaker 4: Okay, So lone Star Preps Class five A high school
football team, All District, you got it. I found this
on loon Star Preps Honorable mentions. Come on four quarterback,
we hold on. I lost it for a quarterback Honorable
mentioned on offense. Ret Bomar, my district, Will Galusha.
Speaker 3: We're at Bomar this week in radio.
Speaker 1: That's like the whole state. Though again again, if he's
not all twelve five A, he ain't gonna be on
that list.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: This is giving me the wrong. This is a hard
one to find because it's not there. Yeah, sorry, I tried, Matt.
Speaker 2: Just say that.
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that Jimbo was an attention to detailed
guy and we found you, and you know, we were
able to have you lead us to victory.
Speaker 3: Here, Bud, we're coming down to a camp at l
s U. They'd already offered a scholarship to me. I
came down to camp and I was throwing with they
like paired me up with early and big Baby a
tight down, do you know, Gambaluca, Gino, Gamble let go.
Speaker 2: That's right. And you know.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a whole lot of like film to go
off of at the time. So you know, I did
pretty good at camp and Timbo's like, all right, well.
Speaker 2: Probably going to recruit your harder now after this camp
we offered. You didn't have a lot to go on.
What did happen? Though, I'll give my coach a lot
of credit, Like they were like, all right.
Speaker 3: This kid, we get it. He's like on the recruiting list.
He's done good at camps. And it was spring practice
and we didn't throw the ball a lot, but LSU
and I think like Oklahoma Texas, they were like, there
was a bunch of people coming down for a spring practice, right,
and so we had block schedule at at the time,
so it's like four long blocks, yeah, and were yeah,
third block was football, and so they all right, we're
doing practice middle of the day at third block and
it's going to be an all throwing practice. So we
went out there and threw like eighty or you know,
we threw it a bunch, right, and and he did
that practice for me because they were all coming down
to see me. And yeah, after that, it was like
they all offered me a scholarship after that practice. And
I'll never forget. I think it was.
Speaker 2: A fourth year of.
Speaker 3: College or something like that. Me and Jimbo were talking.
I think my parents were there. We were all we
were all talking. This is like I think right before
he left to go to Florida State, he was like, oh, yeah,
I remember, I remember that day when I went we
went to a creature. He was like, you were forty
three or forty five? And I was like, what that is?
Speaker 1: That is that is the truth because I know that
he knew the.
Speaker 2: Stats from that practice whether and I honestly he believed it.
Speaker 1: I think he has told that story on off campus
before about I swear to god, I think he's told
that story about your practice and given the stats to
it because we you know, we brought you up because
he joined EJ and I on Tuesdays in college football season,
and I think he's given us stats from that practice.
Speaker 2: I was like, what who is this guy? Yeah, I
can't remember anyone's name.
Speaker 1: I just look and I'm not, you know, throwing stones
here because you and I both wear melon hats, but
with the head that big got a lot of.
Speaker 2: Big dome Headie Murphy Hetdie Murphy.
Speaker 3: Do you remember Ali brew Sort Remember we were in
the old lotin room and they had those two big
l s U helmets, like these huge signs on the wall.
Speaker 2: It's like these three D helmet signs. Yeah, and Ali
was like, jump out. I didn't know you played at
LSU and got your helmet retired. It was like three foot.
Speaker 1: Wide on that note.
Speaker 3: Last break of the show. We're wrapping up when we
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Welcome back to off the Bench. You were the first
thing at man I can lost. All right, so we
don't have the All District team, but thanks to AI
we have found some news in notes. Why let's see
where was it?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah.
Speaker 1: While specific records of the twelve five A All District
football team selections for two thousand and two are not
readily available, Flynn's performance earned him recognition on several prestigious lists,
including the Super Prep Texas one twenty four, the Dallas
Morning News Texas Top one hundred, and the Tyler Morning
Telegraph All East Texas Football. Oh let's go.
Speaker 3: Tyler Telegraph sounds like a little home cooking if you're
asking me. That is the one publication that named him
All East Texas is from Tyler. That's weird, hey, Dallas
Morning Telegraph ever heard of it?
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