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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>five star and met yesterday listening, Oh watching lim always.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep its watching.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Boobo Fay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Bobes, what's happening man?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Not much, just waiting to talk to you. Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you're waiting on pins and needles man, probably

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<v Speaker 2>the high point of your day.

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<v Speaker 4>It actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry, Bobes. Hope you have a better day tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man, last time I saw you, you were driving

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<v Speaker 2>down my road with the trailer hitched onto your truck.

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<v Speaker 2>How did that go? I haven't spoken to you since

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<v Speaker 2>they went good.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds sketches I didn't have. It wasn't registered.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's what you were emptying the entire thing,

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<v Speaker 2>because you expected to get pulled over and the cops

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<v Speaker 2>to take your to impound your trailer and they'll never

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<v Speaker 2>get it back, and then it wouldn't be your problem anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I got it down there. I stopped at uh

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<v Speaker 4>between like Eagle Point and Medford to sleep. I just

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<v Speaker 4>pulled it into some industrial parking lot. And again I

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<v Speaker 4>had squeakers come up and try to mess with they

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't try. They didn't mess with. The trolley went

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<v Speaker 4>up and got up to the back of my truck.

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<v Speaker 4>I had it kind of parked I could. I pulled

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<v Speaker 4>it into angle so I could. I could see out

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<v Speaker 4>the trailer window. I could see the pasture side of

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<v Speaker 4>my truck, and I thought, these guys walk up by

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<v Speaker 4>the tailgate in the back, and I started yelling and

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<v Speaker 4>they took off. And then I was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>sleep here. So I got out and I looked on

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<v Speaker 4>the Google Google Earth, and I found like a look

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<v Speaker 4>like a nice neighborhood, like figure lots and like big,

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<v Speaker 4>bigger houses. And I went and parked there. And then

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<v Speaker 4>crazy enough to be like, at five twenty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't even light yet, this dude whips up a fired

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<v Speaker 4>up a weed whacker right outside my trailer window. You'd

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<v Speaker 4>like five feet from my head if I starts talking

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<v Speaker 4>all loud, like talking to himself about uh, people parking

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<v Speaker 4>in his neighborhood this and that it's crazy. And then

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<v Speaker 4>at like six o'clock, like six fifteen it was, it

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty light. Then he starts painting like new year

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<v Speaker 4>thing on his fence and he's talking to his neighbor

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<v Speaker 4>real loud, like referencing my trailer and you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>how trashy that is and low class and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and they better they better not put on leaving it

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<v Speaker 4>here will be gone. When he went inside the house,

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<v Speaker 4>I just got out and throw down and I had

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<v Speaker 4>to drive back into Medford and I went to a safeway.

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<v Speaker 2>And you do like sleep in a safeway. I understand.

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<v Speaker 4>I know this was awesome. I got back on the trailer.

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<v Speaker 4>It I get in there. All of a sudden, here

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<v Speaker 4>more weed wreckers and stuff or leaf flowers. The cleaning

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<v Speaker 4>crew like that does the all those little islands with

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<v Speaker 4>the with the garden stuff in the middle, like little

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<v Speaker 4>trees and stuff like the parking lot. They're cleaning that

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<v Speaker 4>up and then and then also uh leaf blowing the

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<v Speaker 4>parking lot there. They started off like around my truck

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<v Speaker 4>and they it was just so loud that they their

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<v Speaker 4>truck was parked right in front of it, like I

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<v Speaker 4>they wanted to park in the shade. I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>gabbled up all the space at my truck and trailer

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<v Speaker 4>and I was in the only space shaded stay Spik

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<v Speaker 4>Sea for a long way away and it was pretty

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<v Speaker 4>hot out. It was gonna be a hot day. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>get some sleep by work in the shade. And then

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<v Speaker 4>I got given out of that spot. But then, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking for a place to jump jump it

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<v Speaker 4>because I was like, I'm just gonna go home and

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<v Speaker 4>put it on Craigslist. Thing come back up like the

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<v Speaker 4>show up the next weekend. And I called by Bunny JG.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a squatscher down there in Grabb's Pass and he

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<v Speaker 4>I fed like a five acre piece And I said,

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<v Speaker 4>if he's a construction guy a contact, And I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I called up and say, do you do like a

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<v Speaker 4>construction yard like some like this somewhere I can I

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<v Speaker 4>can drop it for a week or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It wouldn't be in the way and knowing like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do it or vandalize it. And he says, oh, we

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<v Speaker 4>got plenty of room on our place and is bringing

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<v Speaker 4>up here. And so I dropped it up there, and uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I got it advertised for sale. I got people will

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<v Speaker 4>tell me about it. So I'll probably go up there

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<v Speaker 4>this weekend and saw it to whoever.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's great. You have some hits on. Possibly somebody

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<v Speaker 2>buying the trailer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one day wants to live in it. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be a campsite host somewhere in del North County.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that'd be a good u you know, a good

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<v Speaker 2>after life for the trailer and.

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<v Speaker 4>A good contact.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a good contact. Yeah, totally, totally. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you love that trailer. You wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a good home exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I had one first cove and offered me a good

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<v Speaker 4>price for it, but they uh defeated it for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't care that if they got rained on it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, by the end of the winter, it was

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<v Speaker 4>Vicky Moldy, They're coming only I'm only been there, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna even I'll be out there by Christmas

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<v Speaker 4>the late probably be o there by. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>just needed temporary, cheaper than running a house or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And I said, dude, I can't do it. You just

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<v Speaker 4>ruined this thing, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a child. It's a child that lived in

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon when he lived in California.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, for the last years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great.

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<v Speaker 4>It's still for sale though.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well maybe maybe there's a member discount.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, for sure off.

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<v Speaker 2>After you raised Surprise thirty percent. You know, I I

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to Brandon Tenant because I was saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we should do another Bigfoot and Beyond t shirt, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know that trailer would be great for the for

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<v Speaker 2>the art. So you know that picture I took of

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<v Speaker 2>view standing in front of the trailer. I sent out

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<v Speaker 2>the brand and I said, hey, man, can you do

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<v Speaker 2>anything with this? Like I'm thinking make it into a

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<v Speaker 2>black line Master with Bobo holding a flag or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, some sort of huge patriotic, over the top ridiculousness,

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<v Speaker 2>and with Matt Prude and I in the window of

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<v Speaker 2>the trailer like like we're trapped for you at mel

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<v Speaker 2>or me and Mal being held Well, prote needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be in there somewhere where would Matt be.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a two windows in the door.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you need mail like holding a shotgun, eat

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<v Speaker 3>off my law.

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<v Speaker 4>This should be a yeah, bell holding a shotgut of

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<v Speaker 4>be like dragging the trailer with a rope like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just over my shoulder just hauling it off at gunpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, maybe maybe maybe that idea, the art

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<v Speaker 2>idea isn't dead yet. I don't know. I don't know listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that sound good to you? Like, shoot map pro

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<v Speaker 2>and email if you'd be interested in picking up a

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<v Speaker 2>shirt like that. I'd like some sort of limited edition

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<v Speaker 2>Bobo's trailer's shirt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think if there was ever a better advertisement

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<v Speaker 3>for the Patreon, it's like, hey, if you're interested in

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<v Speaker 3>Bobo's trailer, for five dollars a month, you can get

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five percent off this trailer. So sign up at

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<v Speaker 3>the link in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll deliver it on the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 4>I found all the paper I found all the paperwork.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, good, that's a that's a baby step towards legality.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. Yeah. No, Actually that that just shows you

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<v Speaker 2>own and you're allowed to sell it, which is something

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<v Speaker 2>that I think any prospective buyer would probably want.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't go around selling other people's stuff. So that

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<v Speaker 2>so the trailer is in another temporary home and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be sold the next week or two. Help you.

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<v Speaker 2>You hope you're going to keep us on top of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd like to hear about what happened to my

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<v Speaker 2>old friend the trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I got it.

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<v Speaker 4>I got pressure. I got till the end of September,

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<v Speaker 4>so I got but twenty days, plenty of time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna drop it with my friends in Van

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<v Speaker 4>Oregon because I thought, like, you know, they're handing their outdoor,

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<v Speaker 4>they're to camp and all that, and they have they

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<v Speaker 4>have a piece of property that I go there. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like a really nice house and a nice neighborhood. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not a half acre. And it's like, well, if I

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<v Speaker 4>redid it, you got to strip the top these new

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<v Speaker 4>roof fladder that's like the main thing. You got to

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<v Speaker 4>pull the seal each both those seal trips and red

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<v Speaker 4>you know, scrub it down and then make it clean

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<v Speaker 4>and reseal it be it'll be nice. It'll be you know,

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<v Speaker 4>good to go for years. And the top though, like

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<v Speaker 4>when you strip the top, it's like you need to

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<v Speaker 4>be like somewhere like a cliff shop or something with

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<v Speaker 4>like no wind so you're not blowing that stuff that's

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<v Speaker 4>gotta be toxic, you know that when it's gotta be

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<v Speaker 4>way toxic. So they had to they have like an

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<v Speaker 4>organic garden and organic chickens, you know, egg laying in

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<v Speaker 4>this you know, debris coming down and talk or stuff

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<v Speaker 4>in their organic garden and chicken yard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, the trailer is not that far

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<v Speaker 2>out from being a really nice trailer. It just needs

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, It needs a couple of days of

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<v Speaker 2>tender love and it'll be back to a really really

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<v Speaker 2>nice trailer. So I think whoever it gets at it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be pretty happy with it. It's definitely a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fix me up and fix it up a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, it should work. That's why it's so

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<v Speaker 4>cheap because it's the Imperial de.

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<v Speaker 2>Luxe package Dan Dunam the Empire.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, that's you can tell us an old trailer and

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<v Speaker 4>the word imperial is like a.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good thing. Yeah yeah, it's not exactly a

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<v Speaker 2>PC sort of thing. Well all right, hey, well you

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<v Speaker 2>know what we actually jobbed to do instead of just

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<v Speaker 2>catching up about the trailer. So why don't we hop

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Get it together, push us, Matt, hurt us,

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<v Speaker 2>hurt us like the kittens we are. Yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Q and A episode, which of course is some

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<v Speaker 2>of our favorite things to do here in Bigfoot and Beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're taking questions directly from our audience. You can

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<v Speaker 2>also ask questions of Cliff and Bobo and Matt if

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<v Speaker 2>the levely and talented Matt Prout will put these links

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<v Speaker 2>down in the show notes below. But let's hop on

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<v Speaker 2>the first voicemail and let's see what this person wants

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, y'all, this is Alan from Indiana and what I

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<v Speaker 5>want to know is what's the coolest Bigfoot tattoo you

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<v Speaker 5>guys have ever seen? I'm sure you've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of them over the years, whether it was one of

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<v Speaker 5>your guys's faces or just Bigfoot himself. I love the show,

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<v Speaker 5>you guys, keep it up, listen to it every week

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<v Speaker 5>and it's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a good one, it's good question.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the foolest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bobo does have a really nice one, But why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you describe your tattoo for everybody?

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<v Speaker 4>It's a sasquat surfing on a log like an actual

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<v Speaker 4>log that's what they used to call it. Log. They

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<v Speaker 4>used to call a big long boards in the fifties

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<v Speaker 4>called bogs, and big long long boards were called blogs.

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<v Speaker 4>But it surfing a log. But it's like just a

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<v Speaker 4>red wood log that fell down on the woods. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the piece of dead ball or something. It's

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<v Speaker 4>getting barrel these it's a water view looking in towards

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<v Speaker 4>the barrel of a squatch pulling in off of Patrick's Point,

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<v Speaker 4>that place where I saw the UFOs right with some

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<v Speaker 4>rain coming down. I was done by Kwana that. I

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<v Speaker 4>and humble and then Opie down Long Beach Opie.

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<v Speaker 2>Rts Opie as in Long Beach dub All Stars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>He's well, he's a he did all the sublime art

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<v Speaker 4>and like all these long guys tattoos. But I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>some cool ones. Uh thost of them, though, like almost

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<v Speaker 4>all of them are are Patty style, which is I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen some like really nice detail ones, like guys

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<v Speaker 4>about their whole backs like a forest, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>a Patty walking through the middle of the forest looking

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<v Speaker 4>over the shoulder, looking back like fifty two frame. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I tell of those, but I've seen a couple like

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen some other ones that are that are really cool,

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<v Speaker 4>but I can't none of them chip out the mine

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<v Speaker 4>like mostly just like a child, like a squash of

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<v Speaker 4>the space where standing there looking all aboff, or it's

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<v Speaker 4>walking like tatty with all the ones I usually see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, when the North American big Foot Center

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<v Speaker 2>first opened, we had an entire wall of bigfoot tattoos,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because Portland's kind of a tattoos sort of town,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have some amazing entries, just amazing, beautiful, fantastic art,

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<v Speaker 2>some really terrible ones at the same time, which I love.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad tattoos or something that bad tattoos are right up

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<v Speaker 2>there with bad taxidermy for me. I just love that stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally love it. But you know, and of all

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<v Speaker 2>the fantastic and beautiful arts and everything that I saw

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<v Speaker 2>on our wall there at the NABC, the one that

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<v Speaker 2>stands out to me the most was was on a

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<v Speaker 2>dude named Dwayne. He it was just basically a patty thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. He had the logs in front. It was

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<v Speaker 2>it was walking the wrong direction, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>walking from right to left and said the left to

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<v Speaker 2>right like in the film. But other than that, there's

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<v Speaker 2>basically a Paddy tattoo. But the differences is he had

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Gimlin autograph his arm with a sharpie and then

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<v Speaker 2>he went straight to the tattoo parlor and got Bob

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<v Speaker 2>Gimlin's autograph on his arm.

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<v Speaker 4>My buddy, how he got the works when I've ever

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<v Speaker 4>seen what's that? He got a huge big foot on

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<v Speaker 4>his arm walking kind of like the Patty walk a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit, but the guys drew like especially like a

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<v Speaker 4>hairy outline because it's just like an outline of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it looks like it looks like he just think

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<v Speaker 4>drew electricity all over like in the shape like like

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<v Speaker 4>just like a little electrical charges going around making the

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<v Speaker 4>shape of a big foot. So we called it electro Man.

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<v Speaker 4>We always heckle a electro man tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no wonder the bigfoots can zap people if that's

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<v Speaker 2>the case. You know, I did see another tattoo and

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of tangentially bigfooty. It was at Cryptid con

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<v Speaker 2>I think last year that that great event. It's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up this year as well. I'll be speaking at it again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the weekend before Thanksgiving. It's in Kentucky. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Prue, you're gonna be there, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it's one of my favorite events to attend.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a good one. And of course the

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain Monster guys go to that, and you know, say

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<v Speaker 2>what you want about the TV show, it's super entertaining

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<v Speaker 2>and everything like that. Over the top. And those dudes

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<v Speaker 2>are not actors. They just turned it up to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just a bunch of weirdos. And they're really really nice,

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<v Speaker 2>sweetheart guys. Man, they would they would literally give you

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<v Speaker 2>the shirt off their back. They're just lovely, lovely humans.

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<v Speaker 2>But a woman came to Cryptid Con because the Mountain

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<v Speaker 2>Monster guys were going to be there, and she came

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<v Speaker 2>from Europe or something, if I remember correctly, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say Iceland or some I don't know, so like

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<v Speaker 2>some European country if I remember correctly. And she came

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<v Speaker 2>and she got them to autograph her her thigh, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she went straight to the tattoo parlor and got

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<v Speaker 2>them all autographed their faces out their faces, No, just

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<v Speaker 2>just to autographs.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's done both?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 4>I had like a portrait of a signature underneath. That'd

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<v Speaker 4>be all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be very very nice. Cut that out

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<v Speaker 2>for good food something. I didn't want to cut that out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll cut that out. But just for the audience who

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<v Speaker 3>only heard the bleep for the first time. I just

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<v Speaker 3>wanted on the record for the first time. Bobo actually

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<v Speaker 3>asked me to remove something instead looking at me for

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<v Speaker 3>removing something. So we've definitely there's been a paradigm shift.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Melissa has a big Foot tattoo. That's right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she got it before we were married. She didn't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a lot of tattoos on. She has a sleeve,

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<v Speaker 2>so at least one of her arms is pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>full with various tattoos of meaning for her. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's got stuff for her dad on there, things reminder

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<v Speaker 2>of her mom and that sort of stuff. And she

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<v Speaker 2>actually got the Harraford cast tattooed on her on her

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<v Speaker 2>arm just kind of as a reminder of her working

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<v Speaker 2>on the Finding Bigfoot show. And then turns out that

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<v Speaker 2>I eventually convinced her to marry me, so it ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being a tattoo about me in a weird, sort

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<v Speaker 2>of accidental way. That's fine, Yeah, yeah, yeah, tattoos are cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any of myself, you know what the

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo would I would get though, if I could get

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<v Speaker 2>a tattoo, what I could, But I don't want a tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I don't care. I would get the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Patterson Gimlins shot, you know with the

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<v Speaker 2>arms out stretch frame three fifty two, sort of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>with don Nott's face on it. But I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>any artists could pull that off.

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<v Speaker 4>And that'd be pretty pretty epic.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should have listeners submit pictures of tattoos.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a big Foot tattoo, you should send

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<v Speaker 3>it a Bigfoot and Beyond podcast at gmail dot com

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<v Speaker 3>or send it in via like one of the social

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<v Speaker 3>media outlets, and then we can repost those.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I got another unproductive question for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey guys, my name is Daniel from Colorado, a big

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<v Speaker 3>fan of the podcast and the Old Show.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just curious if anybody's read the book Devolution by

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<v Speaker 6>Max Brooks.

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<v Speaker 3>That book scared the but Jesus out of me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to know what your take.

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<v Speaker 4>On it was. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you read that Bobo?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I got it too. I got it like she's

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<v Speaker 4>like two years ago now or something, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to read it, but I just haven't got to it

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<v Speaker 4>like I always I should. I'm gooder than I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I also owned the book, but I have not

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<v Speaker 2>read it because honestly, I'm just not a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot fiction.

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<v Speaker 4>Those real books I gotta read first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, And Max Brooks was actually in town

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<v Speaker 2>like two years ago. I'm doing a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>speaking circuit with his book or reader, the Devolution book,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've said, you know, maybe I'll come to the

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<v Speaker 2>museum because I'd like to meet him, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>working every day at the museum at that point. But

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<v Speaker 2>he never did come in, which first of all, shows

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<v Speaker 2>me at what level of Bigfoot fandom he actually is.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Hopefully it's just an oversight on his part,

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<v Speaker 2>or perhaps he didn't have time. Hopefully it's something forgivable

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<v Speaker 2>instead of something like, oh, I'm not going to go

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<v Speaker 2>see the Bigfoot mcine, that's stupid. Even though I have

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<v Speaker 2>a Bigfoot book out, I could forgive the other stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't get crunched for time all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>But still I heard from Bigfoot fiction it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>For Bigfoot fiction, it's great. That's like saying, oh, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a really really nice you know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the best worst meal I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what Everhard McDonald's exactly, it was exquisite.

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<v Speaker 3>I read the book. I thought it was great, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'll read Bigfoot fiction occasionally. But I did read

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<v Speaker 3>his book World war Z, which was incredible, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I was pretty eager to read Devolution, and I really

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did read a Zombie survival guide.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you got to read World war Z because it's basically,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a metaphor for a number of things, but

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of like global politics, geopolitics, et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's extremely well written.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>With Devolution, like I read the actual book, but then

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<v Speaker 3>the audiobook became available and I listened to that on

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<v Speaker 3>a road trip. And so they have different actors for

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<v Speaker 3>the different roles. So it's a really interesting listen too.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you like to listen to books, that one's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because it's not just a single narrator reading the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing. It's actually more like an old school radio drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just another one of these books that I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't quite gotten to yet. I think I probably will

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<v Speaker 2>read it eventually, despite my distaste for bigfoot fiction. But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. I'm not there yet. I'm actually rereading some

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<v Speaker 2>of the old classics at this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think the very best bigfoot fiction book ever

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<v Speaker 3>written is called Cryptid by a guy named Eric Pins,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's fantastic, And so if you like bigfoot fiction,

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<v Speaker 3>I highly recommend that one, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Daniel, thanks for that question. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot fiction kind of guy, but yeah, maybe i'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to it. I'll get to it based on your tacit recommendation.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Daniel made me do it, So if it sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>it's your fault.

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<v Speaker 4>But Daniel, maybe do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. All right, let's go to the next question.

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<v Speaker 2>We have any more voicemails or are we under the

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<v Speaker 2>reading stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one last voicemail and then we'll move on to

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<v Speaker 3>the written submissions.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Cliff and Bobo, this is Kelly Collin. First of all,

425
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<v Speaker 7>I'm a huge fan of y'all. I remember watching your

426
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<v Speaker 7>first episode of Finding Bigfoot. The Georgia episode struck a

427
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<v Speaker 7>chord with me because I'm also from North Georgia. Shatout

428
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<v Speaker 7>of math crew, I preppy sure you're a Georgia boy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>y'all are great. I live in western North Carolina. Are

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<v Speaker 7>there any particular squatchy places that I could go camping

431
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<v Speaker 7>to potentially see some action? Thank y'all, Love y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you well.

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<v Speaker 3>With Western North Carolina, that's probably my favorite part of

434
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<v Speaker 3>the country to do field research in. You could throw

435
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<v Speaker 3>a dart at a map at western North Carolina and

436
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<v Speaker 3>be a good habitat because that's sort of the heart

437
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<v Speaker 3>of the temperate rainforest of southern Apalachia. But if you

438
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<v Speaker 3>wanted a specific area, I would say, go to the

439
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<v Speaker 3>upper Nanta Halo River Valley specific I'm going to camp

440
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<v Speaker 3>Browns are up there. Camp so oh, quite a few.

441
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<v Speaker 3>There's quite a few. So there's everything from like primitive

442
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<v Speaker 3>camp to you know, single primitive camps to larger group

443
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<v Speaker 3>camps with pit toilets and water, other amenities and things.

444
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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of options there. But you really

445
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<v Speaker 3>couldn't go wrong anywhere in the Pisca National Forest or

446
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<v Speaker 3>the Nanta Halo National Forest or any of those places.

447
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<v Speaker 3>But for me, particularly the upper nanta Halo River Valley

448
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<v Speaker 3>has been one of the most productive places I've been

449
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<v Speaker 3>hands down. You are, Oh, it's pretty far because yu

450
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<v Speaker 3>Aari is almost like the central part of the state.

451
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<v Speaker 3>You know that's going to be even like further east

452
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<v Speaker 3>of Charlotte before you get to the Juari's.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, it's the case out west, like on National forest land,

454
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<v Speaker 2>you cant just camp wherever you want. You don't need permission,

455
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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to pay anybody as long as you're

456
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<v Speaker 2>okay with like quote unquote primitive camping. That's the case

457
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<v Speaker 2>out there on National forest land, too, is it not.

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<v Speaker 3>It really depends on the district. You should look at

459
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<v Speaker 3>the district rules because some of them will allow dispersed camping,

460
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<v Speaker 3>some of them won't. You know, the rules vary from

461
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<v Speaker 3>district to district, And that's true if like on the

462
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<v Speaker 3>Georgia side of the Chattahoochee National Force, when you're looking

463
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<v Speaker 3>at certain ranger districts, or if you find yourself within

464
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<v Speaker 3>a WMA inside of the national forest, there might be

465
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<v Speaker 3>some different restrictions. So you really got to look and

466
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<v Speaker 3>see if dispersed camping is permitted or if you need

467
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<v Speaker 3>to be in a designated camping area, and if those

468
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<v Speaker 3>camping areas require fees or reservation something like that. So

469
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<v Speaker 3>it's always worth researching first. Wow, that's just unbelievable to me.

470
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<v Speaker 3>I can't even imagine camping in a campground at this moment.

471
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<v Speaker 3>That's unfathomable to me. Well, some areas are always under

472
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<v Speaker 3>some sort of like protection, you know. I know for

473
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<v Speaker 3>a while there were places that we're seeing an influx

474
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<v Speaker 3>of invasive insects and a lot of that was coming

475
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<v Speaker 3>in from firewood being brought from outside of the region,

476
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<v Speaker 3>and so they would shut some of those places off

477
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<v Speaker 3>to dispersed camping because they don't want to just people

478
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<v Speaker 3>showing up and bringing in wood from wherever, and then

479
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<v Speaker 3>they would reopen dispersed camping or primitive camping. So those

480
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<v Speaker 3>things are always in flux and changing depending on whatever

481
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<v Speaker 3>like the resource needs are at that given time, and

482
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<v Speaker 3>so it's not always the case. And again I've just

483
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<v Speaker 3>seen a lot of variants from district to district, so

484
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<v Speaker 3>definitely research it first.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, the East is really different, man, Well it's not

486
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<v Speaker 2>that different.

487
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<v Speaker 4>I mean the guy down in those padres down there

488
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<v Speaker 4>like a big shirt, he's how that place shut for

489
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<v Speaker 4>like four and a half years.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why I don't go to Big Surrey either.

491
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<v Speaker 2>It's too many people.

492
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I mean like they closed down, like like

493
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<v Speaker 4>you came to get into like half the mountain areas

494
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<v Speaker 4>because they say it's too dry for like even after

495
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<v Speaker 4>it rained a bunch they said there was Oh now

496
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<v Speaker 4>it's too unstable. There's been too much water with uh

497
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<v Speaker 4>in Burnscar and the guy that runs a whether just

498
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<v Speaker 4>keeps it hut shut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Makes me very thankful I live where I live,

500
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<v Speaker 2>because it's unfathomable to me to even camp within a

501
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<v Speaker 2>half mile of somebody, let alone twenty feet thirty feet

502
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<v Speaker 2>like in a campground. The guy, I'd make it a

503
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<v Speaker 2>point when I go camping if I go to the

504
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<v Speaker 2>bog or somewhere, you know, I drive around to make

505
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<v Speaker 2>sure nobody else is there. And if there is somebody

506
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<v Speaker 2>there and you've been to the bog, I mean it's

507
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<v Speaker 2>probably three quarters of a mile or mile or something

508
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<v Speaker 2>like that across. If there's somebody there, I leave. I

509
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<v Speaker 2>just can't even imagine camping so close to people. I

510
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<v Speaker 2>guess I'm spoiled the west. There's a lot of room

511
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<v Speaker 2>out here, I guess so.

512
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<v Speaker 4>But I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to Kelly's question, I mean, Matt Pruten knows the

514
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<v Speaker 2>area better than anybody. I just listened to him. But

515
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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't camp that. My recommendation is don't camp where

516
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<v Speaker 2>other people are.

517
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<v Speaker 3>And obviously, the Upper Nancy Halo River Valley is one

518
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<v Speaker 3>of the areas I'm willing to disclose my favorite spots

519
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to talk about on a big podcast,

520
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.279
<v Speaker 3>but that is a really good area, and I've had

521
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<v Speaker 3>interesting experiences almost every single time i've been there, and

522
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<v Speaker 3>I've been there much less than I've been to many

523
00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.799
<v Speaker 3>other places, and so you know, it'd be different if

524
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<v Speaker 3>if I could say that about North Georgia. But the

525
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<v Speaker 3>reality is I'm in North Georgia often a whole lot,

526
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<v Speaker 3>and things don't always happen there versus like the small,

527
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<v Speaker 3>smaller number of times that I've been to the Upper

528
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<v Speaker 3>Nanta Halo River Valley going back to two thousand and

529
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<v Speaker 3>six for specifically for field reason to have that many

530
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<v Speaker 3>interesting things happen, It's like, Wow, that's a pretty active area.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm willing to share that one with folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess the advice I would offer is look

533
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<v Speaker 2>at the map where is close to you and find

534
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<v Speaker 2>a cluster of reports and go there. I mean, it's

535
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<v Speaker 2>the best advice for any bigfooter doing anything looking for

536
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<v Speaker 2>prints or going out camping or whatever. Just find a

537
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<v Speaker 2>spot that's close and start going there often. And you know,

538
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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing wrong with day trips either.

539
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<v Speaker 4>I know that.

540
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<v Speaker 2>The know all the TV shows and stuff ours included

541
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<v Speaker 2>make it seem like you have to do it at night.

542
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<v Speaker 2>You do not have to do it at night. You

543
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<v Speaker 2>can't see one during the day at night. By definition,

544
00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Go during the day, go for a full day, wake

545
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<v Speaker 2>up at eight in the morning, come back at date

546
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<v Speaker 2>at night, that sort of stuff. Do that as well.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Just go go outside, is my advice. Go outside and

548
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<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. Man.

549
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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny because it's such an active area. That

550
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<v Speaker 3>for a little plug for our good friends and small

551
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<v Speaker 3>town monsters and Seth Breedlove I did a film with

552
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<v Speaker 3>them earlier. Hear that we filmed in April that just

553
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<v Speaker 3>became available as of today on Amazon called On the

554
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<v Speaker 3>Trail of Bigfoot the Ancients, and I told this story

555
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<v Speaker 3>in that film. But it's funny that my dad was

556
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<v Speaker 3>the local small town doctor where he was in North Georgia,

557
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<v Speaker 3>and one of his longtime patients came in and this

558
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<v Speaker 3>guy had no idea you know who I was or

559
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<v Speaker 3>what I did, but he knew that my dad was

560
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<v Speaker 3>an avid hunter and fisherman. This is just a couple

561
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<v Speaker 3>of years ago before my dad retired, and he said, Hey,

562
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<v Speaker 3>can I tell you something that I've never told anyone.

563
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<v Speaker 3>I just want to know what you think about it.

564
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<v Speaker 3>My dad was like, yeah, sure, and he said he

565
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<v Speaker 3>told him about this encounter that he had while he

566
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<v Speaker 3>was coon hunting, and you know, for all intents and purposes,

567
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<v Speaker 3>it's a sasquatch encounter. And they didn't have a clear visual.

568
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<v Speaker 3>They could see the silhouette of it, this big, giant

569
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<v Speaker 3>man shape thing, but a lot of like vocalizations and

570
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<v Speaker 3>intimidation displays. And he was like, I've never really told anyone,

571
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<v Speaker 3>and I want to know what you think. My dad

572
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<v Speaker 3>was like, well, you know what my son does you

573
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<v Speaker 3>And guy had no idea, and so he gave my number,

574
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<v Speaker 3>said this is who you should talk to about it.

575
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<v Speaker 3>And it was happened in the seventies and it was

576
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<v Speaker 3>in the upper Nantahala River Valley, right in the same

577
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.079
<v Speaker 3>spot where I like to go. So I thought, well,

578
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<v Speaker 3>that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you did mention small town monsters and there

580
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<v Speaker 2>they are all good friends of ours, and they treat

581
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<v Speaker 2>us really nicely, and there's fun, fun people in general,

582
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<v Speaker 2>every single one of them. But I would want to

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<v Speaker 2>point out that they just released something where we took

584
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<v Speaker 2>We took Alex Pettakoff out Bigfoot and at one of

585
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.960
<v Speaker 2>our locations we found some prints and all that sort

586
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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, and he made an hour long documentary out

587
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<v Speaker 2>of it. I know he and Nico went out and

588
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<v Speaker 2>then I think Dave and I went took him out

589
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<v Speaker 2>into a different spot and and all that stuff was

590
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<v Speaker 2>just released this past Sunday, I guess, or about a

591
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<v Speaker 2>week ago when when this podcast will be released. It

592
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<v Speaker 2>it's called it's one of those Bigfoot Beyond the Trail

593
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<v Speaker 2>things that they do tracking the Sasquatch of Mount Hood

594
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<v Speaker 2>is what it's called. And so it's on the small

595
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<v Speaker 2>town Monsters page on YouTube for free, So go check

596
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<v Speaker 2>it out. Go check it out and give some support

597
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<v Speaker 2>to these guys. They're doing good work.

598
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<v Speaker 3>I will put the link to that in the show notes.

599
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<v Speaker 2>Oh thanks man, Thank you, Kelly. Yeah, thanks Kelly. That

600
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<v Speaker 2>appreciate the question. And I wish I had Matt prod

601
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:11.400
<v Speaker 2>has a good answer, So it's always good to have

602
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:14.519
<v Speaker 2>a good answer for you instead of what we have

603
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to offer sometimes. So because North Carolina, I've only been there,

604
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<v Speaker 2>watched a couple of times, you know, stay tuned for

605
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<v Speaker 2>more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo. We'll be

606
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<v Speaker 2>right back after these messages. So well, yeah, let's go

607
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<v Speaker 2>one of the written questions in but what you want

608
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<v Speaker 2>to take? The first one?

609
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<v Speaker 4>This message from sim Hammis I cliped Bubbo and Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>I just came across your podcast this pot summer and

611
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<v Speaker 4>it's been a great addition to my podcast listening. Many

612
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 4>moons ago, I briefly met y'all at the final Bigfoot

613
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<v Speaker 4>town hall in Mississippi. I tended to listen to counters.

614
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<v Speaker 4>I'm a professional historian, and I found them the most

615
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<v Speaker 4>interesting part of the show and still like reading or

616
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<v Speaker 4>listening about them. I really wondered how you read it

617
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<v Speaker 4>out the wild accounts to focus on the serious account

618
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<v Speaker 4>encounters based when the crowd bloft that was a good clue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, if we're talking about finding Bigfoot on the

620
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<v Speaker 2>show specifically, a lot of those witnesses already vetted, which

621
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<v Speaker 2>is really nice. I don't know how all these other

622
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<v Speaker 2>TV shows do it, or even if they do it. Honestly,

623
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<v Speaker 2>I don't watch them. I don't care all that sort

624
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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. But I know that we had a huge

625
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<v Speaker 2>advantage over any other show and any other sort of

626
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<v Speaker 2>thing because we had Matt Moneymaker first of all, on

627
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<v Speaker 2>the show, and he runs the BFRO, and the BFRO

628
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<v Speaker 2>I think when we were doing the show, had something

629
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<v Speaker 2>like seventy five thousand rob reports and you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>all over the country and stuff. And Matt also has

631
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<v Speaker 2>a network of investigators working in every corner of this

632
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of the country. Basically, so whenever if we knew we're

633
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<v Speaker 2>going to say Mississippi, like where you're from, Tim or

634
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 2>where you attended the town Hollies, if we're going to Mississippi,

635
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Matt would call the best investigators he had in Mississippi

636
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 2>and said, hey, we're coming, and we're going to be

637
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 2>there in March or whenever. What's the best spot, Where

638
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>should we go? Where can you recommend what's been going on?

639
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.079
<v Speaker 2>That kind of stuff. So we had the best the

640
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 2>best line of incoming fresh information. Plus in some cases,

641
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, fifty years of historical sighting reports. Maybe not

642
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>fifty years in Mississippi because it's a little scant in Mississippi.

643
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Not the Bigfoots aren't there, it's just that there aren't

644
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of investigators and historians and stuff working on

645
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot thing in Mississippi, at least or weren't when

646
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>we were there. So we had we had a leg

647
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 2>up on any other show that could possibly do this

648
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>stuff because we had Matt on board. And even at

649
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that time, I had something like twelve or fifteen hundred

650
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 2>sidings in my database, so and I know, and Bobo

651
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.200
<v Speaker 2>is just a social guy and he knows people all

652
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>over the country, so we had a huge advantage. And

653
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 2>so because of that advantage, a lot of times, especially

654
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<v Speaker 2>with the BFRO stuff, some of these witnesses that already

655
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 2>been vetted by the investigators, you know, and no investigators

656
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.319
<v Speaker 2>affect a course, and sometimes weirdos or hoaxers or stuff

657
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>probably did slip through, but for the most part, we

658
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 2>already kind of knew that most of these people were

659
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.839
<v Speaker 2>good witnesses. Now, of course, with the town hall meetings,

660
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 2>that kind of a little hard to control because the

661
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 2>town hall meetings. Yeah, sure, we had like two or

662
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<v Speaker 2>three or usually about three witnesses that we knew were

663
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<v Speaker 2>going to be there, that were hand picked and vetted.

664
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<v Speaker 2>We knew these people were going to be there because

665
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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, we have a TV

666
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 2>show to make, we have to do something right, we

667
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>have to film ole we're there. So we would make

668
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<v Speaker 2>sure we had three people, three good witnesses in the

669
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 2>audience that we could make a show with. But we

670
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:38.480
<v Speaker 2>never knew who was going to show up. And if

671
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>some other witness came in and maybe with a photograph

672
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.759
<v Speaker 2>or a cast even or just an amazing story or

673
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>something happened just a few days before, the production would

674
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>bend over backwards to let us go do them. If

675
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 2>such a witness came in, like if we said, oh man,

676
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>that's a witness we're really interested in. That's the cool one,

677
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what we really want to do, the production would

678
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>rearrange our schedule for the entire week and upsetting everything

679
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 2>basically just to allow us to go do real Bigfoot

680
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>investigations in a way that we wanted to.

681
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.519
<v Speaker 4>We crushed a lot of hopes and dreams. Like the

682
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:18.240
<v Speaker 4>she was like they told them for a week, you're

683
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna be gonna be on the show, that we'd go

684
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:21.759
<v Speaker 4>to town hall and like someone have a better survey,

685
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 4>like smart. They'd be like just like really, A lot

686
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:26.960
<v Speaker 4>of times they'd be pretty upset. They're like, well, you

687
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 4>ever came up to my place, Like, hey, this just

688
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 4>popped up us up from like four days ago. Sorry,

689
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:32.640
<v Speaker 4>we got to go different spot.

690
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we We probably heard a lot of feelings,

691
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and of course production, even on a show like ours,

692
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>wasn't always as kind as they could have been to

693
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 2>the witnesses and whatever else, you know, and we apologize

694
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 2>for any bad feelings, but luckily we're completely unaware of it,

695
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't, you know, I couldn't feel bad because

696
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that we were crushing people's dreams. But

697
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>but then again, that's that's what you get for real show.

698
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, at the end of the day, that's a

699
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:00.759
<v Speaker 2>real show. That that's one of the punches you have

700
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 2>to take. If you really want a real bigfoot show,

701
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.519
<v Speaker 2>is that something came up three days ago. Well, of

702
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 2>course we're gonna go do that. Of course we're going

703
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 2>to go do that. And in many cases, if not

704
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>most cases, I'd like to say all, but I probably

705
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.480
<v Speaker 2>isn't accurate. So I'm gonna say most cases they would

706
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.359
<v Speaker 2>let us if something happened three or four days ago,

707
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:20.799
<v Speaker 2>they would let us do a night investigation there too.

708
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of how we vetted or we did

709
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>out all the wild accounts and stuff, is that we

710
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 2>in many cases we knew that we had some good,

711
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 2>solid witnesses coming because Matt has a good, solid investigator

712
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 2>in the area who's already looked into these things and

713
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.039
<v Speaker 2>has kind of set us up for success. But you know,

714
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 2>if somebody came in and they had a great story,

715
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 2>we might go with them, and then then we're just

716
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of relying on our own instincts in some ways.

717
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 2>But we also wouldn't have chosen if they were not.

718
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, and speak for yourself, Cliff, I'm not wanting

719
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:54.799
<v Speaker 4>to crutch dreams and hopes.

720
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know I do speak for myself always, By

721
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.599
<v Speaker 2>the way, everything I say is my opinion, and even

722
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:04.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't agree with my own opinion sometimes. All right,

723
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.319
<v Speaker 2>so Tim, there's an answer for you. I hope it

724
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>satisfies your curiosity. I hope you got what you want

725
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 2>out of that one, and thank you very much for

726
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>listening and also submitting the question. Let's go to the

727
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>next written question, please, and this one's mine, I believe.

728
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 2>So this comes from Matthew Herring Love the podcast. Always

729
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 2>look forward to the new episodes. If and when the

730
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>discovery of sasquatch is confirmed, where do you think the

731
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<v Speaker 2>most likely area this will come from? No, sir, Well,

732
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina State University is what I think at this moment. Yeah, yeah,

733
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe not from the woods of North Carolina, but I

734
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 2>think from the academics in North Carolina. I've been, you know,

735
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I've talked to Darby fairly fairly frequently, and there's some

736
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>interesting things going on, nothing for sure or whatever, And

737
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.079
<v Speaker 2>of course he's really tight lift about it, so I

738
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.319
<v Speaker 2>can say whatever I want because I know nothing about it,

739
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>but it sounds like there's some really interesting things and.

740
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<v Speaker 4>The evidence's the stab will coming.

741
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:05.039
<v Speaker 2>From well, who knows, who knows? Who cares? Is my thought?

742
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Who cares? I'm an equal opportunity encourager North America. North America. Well, yeah, exactly,

743
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>North America. My prediction me too, Yeah. I mean I

744
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 2>know people who've sent samples in. I know fair number

745
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:19.800
<v Speaker 2>of people who sent samples in, and I think any

746
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 2>any one of these, if you know, if the roll

747
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>of natural twenty man something, you could get it, you could,

748
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>we could get it. So we'll see, we'll see. But

749
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 2>it is such a long shot to begin with without

750
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>a really good sample like hair or tissue or something

751
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.639
<v Speaker 2>like that, and those are rare. And I mean I'm

752
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.000
<v Speaker 2>sitting on some I literally right now, I have an

753
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 2>envelope full of weird hair that I found on broken

754
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>branches out there that I got to send in. So

755
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>who knows, who knows. I know people who have submitted

756
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 2>stuff from Kentucky. I know people who submitted things from

757
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Oregon and Washington. So anything's on the table at this moment.

758
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Because sunsquatches irvy art, and what really takes more than

759
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch is a dedicated field researcher who's willing to

760
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 2>go put the miles under his or her boots and

761
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to treat the samples appropriately and to go the extra

762
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 2>mile and send them in. But you know what I

763
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 2>would prefer, which is not what Matthew asked, but I'm

764
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 2>going to say it anyway. I have been quietly and

765
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 2>not so quietly encouraging Michael Freeman to send in one

766
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of his father's hair. His father had collected a few

767
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>hairs out in the Blue Mountains, you know, Paul Freeman stuff.

768
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think that Michael still has a hand like

769
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:35.400
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of this hair, and as say, can Michael.

770
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 4>Send that in?

771
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that be amazing? Just a final up yours to

772
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:45.079
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot community. If Paul Freeman ended up proving sasquatches

773
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>were real.

774
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 4>Not the Bigfoot community, certain members of the Bigfoot community.

775
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, certain members of course, Oh you know. I

776
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 2>mean I wouldn't be offended of Paul Freeman, but the

777
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 2>people who would be, how it just be so beautiful

778
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 2>and ironic and class. It was just a big up

779
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.840
<v Speaker 2>yours from Paul Freeman. Beyond the grave. We'll see. We'll see.

780
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Michael's are one of my best friends. So I'm going

781
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.119
<v Speaker 2>to continue pushing him to do that. But I can

782
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 2>also understand his reluctance as well.

783
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.840
<v Speaker 4>So I should just put it in there. If it

784
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 4>comes through, then yeah, it's great.

785
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's his dad's stuff, and you know, his dad's

786
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 2>gone and maybe wants to hold onto a little bit.

787
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Of it, you know.

788
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

789
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 4>But if it's just reindeer hair or whatever, you know,

790
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's they don't have those in the blues.

791
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, whatever it is, it would be good

792
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 4>to know, I mean, because if it is it, that'd

793
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 4>be awesome. Yeah, that's like two. I don't want to

794
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:39.840
<v Speaker 4>look through a thermal image roup the widgit because they

795
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 4>want to imagine what they're seeing.

796
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly. Oh yeah, there's a there's an epidemic in

797
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.199
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot community where I don't collect evidence because that's

798
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 2>not my thing. In other words, to say it differently,

799
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't collect evidence because I would rather have a

800
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>story that can't be disproved. Yeah, as long as you

801
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 2>don't share your evidence, then whatever you say is is

802
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 2>true to you. But if you share your evidence that

803
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 2>somebody like somebody shoots it down, then well then you

804
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.280
<v Speaker 2>then you then you have a moral conundrum on your hand.

805
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Do I continue purporting that this is a sasquatch or

806
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 2>do I just you know, say what's actually true. Yeah,

807
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.199
<v Speaker 2>and there are many people on both sides of that

808
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>fence in the bigfoot community as far as I can tell,

809
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see. But anyway, yes, where where's going to

810
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>come from? North America is the best answer to that one,

811
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.800
<v Speaker 2>But it could be anywhere. It could be anywhere it'd be.

812
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 2>How crazy would it be if it came from I

813
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know, like Maryland or some or some completely unsquatchy

814
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:39.840
<v Speaker 2>state that has a couple of big foots in it,

815
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>you know.

816
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that'll that will help people take it more seriously,

817
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 4>write off the bat like some place they never like

818
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 4>Rhode Island. We got forth from samples that turn out

819
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 4>to be real from Rhode Island. People like what that

820
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 4>ma could be more than incredulous?

821
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, But I do know that the folks

822
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.599
<v Speaker 2>at North Carolina State University are going way above and

823
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 2>beyond I think, which is fantastic and all their efforts,

824
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and also they're there there, their protocols, their protocols are

825
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.719
<v Speaker 2>like they're being really really conservative with all of this.

826
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.320
<v Speaker 2>So when if if they do, or in my opinion,

827
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 2>when they do, because I'm an optimist, you know, to

828
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 2>a point in ivit. But if and when they do

829
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:24.880
<v Speaker 2>get the hit, it's gonna be very very hard to

830
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.320
<v Speaker 2>question them. And so they've already thought ahead in this

831
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 2>regard and kudos to them. And again, everybody, man, if

832
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 2>you're sitting on a sample and you're kind of wondering

833
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 2>what it is, by all means, send it in, Matt.

834
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Can we put that link in the show notes as well,

835
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 2>just in case somebody is tuning in for the first

836
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>time and they have a big old wat of Bigfoot.

837
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:42.159
<v Speaker 3>Airror done?

838
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Yeah, if

839
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.280
<v Speaker 2>you have a sample of anything and you think it's big,

840
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.119
<v Speaker 2>but my god, send it in. Why would you hold it?

841
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Why would you sit on it? There's no reason to

842
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 2>do so. Yeah, let's get this thing done, man, so

843
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>we can start learning about them a little bit more.

844
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, next question, Bobs, you want to take?

845
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Then we got Lowell Wilkinson, Hey, Cliff, and Bobo. I

846
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.159
<v Speaker 4>was wondering when were you, guys, when when you got

847
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 4>to another episode when you guys watch Finding Bigfoot. Those

848
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 4>are really entertaining and interesting to listen to. They even

849
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.800
<v Speaker 4>keep it squatchy. I hated doing those. I don't know

850
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:16.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't think they worked that great.

851
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Someone was texting me about that the other day, because

852
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 3>those were like some of the most divisive episodes. I

853
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 3>thought it was a really fun challenge because you know,

854
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.800
<v Speaker 3>we would record the whole thing in real time and

855
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 3>it had to be released in real time. Well, the

856
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.719
<v Speaker 3>challenge was that I had to take the real time

857
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 3>version and then edit it into ones for commuters, for

858
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 3>people who couldn't watch along, and so they would just

859
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:41.199
<v Speaker 3>get all the facts, like, oh, yeah, when we filmed

860
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.760
<v Speaker 3>the scene where X, Y and Z happens, here's a

861
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes story of how that came about, and

862
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.199
<v Speaker 3>you know what happened off camera. And so I enjoyed that.

863
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 3>But they were so divisive because we would get tons

864
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 3>of emails and people like I absolutely love these, like

865
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Lowell here, and then emails from people that are like,

866
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.079
<v Speaker 3>I absolutely hate these. There were no middle ground. So

867
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:04.119
<v Speaker 3>no other episodes or sorts of guests or formats have

868
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:06.159
<v Speaker 3>been that divisive. So we stopped doing it. But I

869
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 3>thought it was a lot of fun, and I liked

870
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.960
<v Speaker 3>doing the two versions, one that people could watch along

871
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.480
<v Speaker 3>and one just for the commuters or the listeners. But

872
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if we'll bring those back. My original

873
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 3>plan if you guys remember when I piss it is,

874
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 3>I thought, man, wouldn't it be funny to do I

875
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 3>watch along to some bad Bigfoot b movie and it

876
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.440
<v Speaker 3>would be like a comedy commentary like Mystery Science Theater

877
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.280
<v Speaker 3>three thousand or Riff Tracks or something. And then it

878
00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 3>was you guys said like, well, why don't we do

879
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 3>that with finding Bigfoot episodes because then there'll be more insight.

880
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.039
<v Speaker 3>And so I thought it was super fun, but not

881
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 3>all of the audience did.

882
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:41.159
<v Speaker 4>Well.

883
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>There must be something in the air, perhaps the water,

884
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:46.840
<v Speaker 2>because just a one day ago on Twitter, this dude

885
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 2>named Blake Logan on Twitter he reached out to all

886
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>three of us big fold be on podcasts and then

887
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Bobo and I says, putting in my official requests for

888
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:58.320
<v Speaker 2>finding Bigfoot watch alongs on the podcast.

889
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.880
<v Speaker 3>We get those all the time. On Man, there was

890
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 3>a comment like that on Instagram just the other day.

891
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Someone's like, Hey, are you guys going to do the

892
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 3>watch along commentaries ever again? And so it's really divisive,

893
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 3>like again no middle ground. People either really really love

894
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 3>them or people are like, God, I hate these, I

895
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 3>can't I don't know why you do these, and it

896
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.840
<v Speaker 3>was really pretty fifty to fifty, and so you know,

897
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe we could ask the patrons and if they wanted

898
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:23.559
<v Speaker 3>something like that, we could do it just on the

899
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 3>member side, and in that way we have more of

900
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 3>the audience that's in support, you know, if we were

901
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 3>to poll or something like that. But they were fun

902
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.039
<v Speaker 3>to make. Now that they're all behind a different paywall,

903
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.639
<v Speaker 3>like I guess there's still Discovery Plus, but they're also

904
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 3>on Max. Nonetheless, they're all behind a paywall, so you'd

905
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 3>have to subscribe somewhere. So it would require listeners to

906
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.239
<v Speaker 3>have a different service, or at least a pre existing

907
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 3>service that they're paying for in order to watch along,

908
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 3>and that makes it a little difficult versus if you know,

909
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of bad, bigfoot beat movies that are

910
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 3>just free on YouTube, and so those, you know, you

911
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 3>could do because anybody could watch along. But with these,

912
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:06.280
<v Speaker 3>it's like a smaller audience because of the paywall and

913
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 3>then of the existing audience that we have. I said

914
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:09.920
<v Speaker 3>half of.

915
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 8>Them didn't like it for some reason, and I guess

916
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:17.840
<v Speaker 8>half the hosts didn't like it, you know, Ruttand yeah,

917
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 8>I don't care, I do I think Bobo enjoyed doing it.

918
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Some people love to hate as well.

919
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I have to go back and listen to him because

920
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 3>I thought you had fun doing those.

921
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Now I I'd love to hate too, Don't get me wrong.

922
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Like when when something really irks me, I love to

923
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.199
<v Speaker 2>complain and gripe about it and stuff I really do.

924
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 2>So that's not It's not a slam on you, bobs, but.

925
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 4>Hold my tongue.

926
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh I hope you're wearing gloves.

927
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 4>I did it with a flyers.

928
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Flyers.

929
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 4>There you go.

930
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and

931
00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Bobo will be right back after these messages. Okay, let's

932
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.199
<v Speaker 2>set up the next question here. Then this one comes

933
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>from Willard Glenn Atkinson. It seems that trail cameras almost

934
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 2>never collect bigfoot activity, yet almost all researchers are using them.

935
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Aren't they just a waste of time?

936
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:19.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

937
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's it's like it seems like hardly

938
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 2>anybody ever gets pictures on their cell phone of bigfoots,

939
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Like why bother using them? Because you might? And I

940
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 2>know for me in my use of trail cameras, I

941
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:35.599
<v Speaker 2>also am interested in what animals are there like one

942
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:40.840
<v Speaker 2>of the questions that came up recently is are bears

943
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and sasquatches, you know, mutually exclusive so to speak, Like,

944
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I know that some people think bears are an indicator

945
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>species of the presence of sasquatches because they're the other

946
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>big omnivore here in North America. But a researcher friend

947
00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>of mine says that, you know what, Cliff was interesting.

948
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I find actually in my areas, I'm finding more big

949
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 2>foot footprints than bear footprints, which is, you know, a

950
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 2>pretty crazy thing to be claiming, but it's true. I've

951
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.719
<v Speaker 2>been out to his area, it's true. And that made

952
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Speaker 2>me start wondering, like I wonder when the bigfoots are

953
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 2>in the area, if the bears leave the area, Like

954
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:20.119
<v Speaker 2>if the sasquatches the presence of bigfoots in the area

955
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 2>are just pushing the bears out, and therefore, could the

956
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 2>opposite be true, Like where there's a lot of bears

957
00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:30.280
<v Speaker 2>in an area, would be that is that an indicator

958
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.880
<v Speaker 2>that bigfoots would not be in that area at that time.

959
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think that that is a really interesting use

960
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 2>of trail cameras to try to note what animals are

961
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>present when the bigfoots are there or not. And of

962
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 2>course whether you get a picture of a bigfoot or not,

963
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:48.280
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really matter. But there might be footprints around,

964
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:50.559
<v Speaker 2>or you might get vocalizations or some other indicator of

965
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 2>their presence. And also people do get pictures of bigfoots

966
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:59.159
<v Speaker 2>on trail cameras, they really do. So if you don't

967
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:02.280
<v Speaker 2>have them out, if you don't deploy your trail camera,

968
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 2>that is one hundred percent perfect way of making sure

969
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>you never will get a bigfoot on trail camera. What

970
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 2>is you know, one of the basketball guys. You miss

971
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:11.760
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent of the shots you don't take, you know,

972
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan or whoever said that, I don't know. You

973
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.519
<v Speaker 2>miss one hundred percent of the shots that you don't take. Well,

974
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.039
<v Speaker 2>you miss one hundred percent of the bigfoot pictures that

975
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 2>you that you when you don't deploy a trail camera.

976
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 4>I think they avoid them for sure. I think the

977
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 4>people are putting in those Faraday wraps now, I think

978
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 4>that could help a lot.

979
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 2>But you've seen pictures of trail came trail camera bigfoots,

980
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:37.119
<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, And every trail camera picture of a

981
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.039
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch that I have personally seen, that I think is real.

982
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:43.000
<v Speaker 2>It's always on the cheap cameras. It's always on one

983
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars jobbers, you know, like these hundred dollar moultries

984
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and stuff always, And it's certainly a numbers game because

985
00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.639
<v Speaker 2>there are just so many more of those out than

986
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.559
<v Speaker 2>there are the really high end ones and all that

987
00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:56.039
<v Speaker 2>other stuff. Well high end was that like one hundred

988
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:58.559
<v Speaker 2>and fifty buck raconics and stuff.

989
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.320
<v Speaker 4>Other branches has your hot that are great that you

990
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:03.039
<v Speaker 4>go straight to your phone for like one hundred and

991
00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 4>fifty bucks and you can program in what human size

992
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 4>or like human shape, like bipedal, you can you can

993
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 4>filter out. I don't know if you want to filter

994
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 4>flagger pads because but you can set up like we'll

995
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.280
<v Speaker 4>set up for up. It will set up. I don't

996
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 4>care about why. I's just set up for humans. They

997
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.800
<v Speaker 4>have like a human setting that could pick up a sasquash.

998
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess that would be true, But I would

999
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 2>want to know what everything is out there.

1000
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we too, looks like there's moths flying by setting

1001
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 4>it off five hundred times a minute.

1002
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's true. Or yeah, or wind triggers. But then

1003
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 2>again I got into wind triggers too, so I can

1004
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 2>reset the camera, right. But no, I don't think trail

1005
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.039
<v Speaker 2>cameras are a waste of time. I think that they're

1006
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 2>a really interesting tool that can give you a lot

1007
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 2>of contextual information at the very least, the very least,

1008
00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know, here's here's something for people to try.

1009
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think I've said this before. Lots and

1010
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.519
<v Speaker 2>lots and lots and lots of big Footers claim that

1011
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 2>SaaS squatches come into their camp after they go to

1012
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:04.079
<v Speaker 2>bed and wander around and touch things and whatever else, right,

1013
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 2>lots of them. It's just one of these self perpetuating myths,

1014
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:13.039
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, and myths doesn't necessarily mean it's not true,

1015
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Just like one of these stories you

1016
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>know that gets perpetuated in the Bigfoot community. Well, guess what.

1017
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:23.679
<v Speaker 2>You could put a camera in the middle of your table,

1018
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.039
<v Speaker 2>on your picnic table or whatever you have out there,

1019
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 2>or on your vehicle, amongst other human like things that

1020
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't turn a sasquatch off at all because they're

1021
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.519
<v Speaker 2>coming into look at human like things. So that's a

1022
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 2>great way to deploy trail cameras, and it's also a

1023
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 2>great way to test this hypothesis, which is all it

1024
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 2>really is at this moment, that bigfoots come into the

1025
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 2>camp after you're in the tent and play with your stuff.

1026
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:51.440
<v Speaker 2>You know that's on the table because if you have

1027
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.559
<v Speaker 2>a camera out, you will catch you a bigfoot doing

1028
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.880
<v Speaker 2>that at some point, or it could just be raccoons

1029
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 2>that you're misinterpreting as bigfoots. And I think that's an

1030
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>important thing. Everybody should be questioning these truths that we

1031
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:06.840
<v Speaker 2>hear in the bigfoot community without any evidence to support them.

1032
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with being skeptical about what everybody else

1033
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>thinks is real, right, And that's one of the things

1034
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:16.719
<v Speaker 2>that I've been testing, is like when I go camping

1035
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and if I have a couple of trail cameras with me,

1036
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 2>and I usually do, I put them on human things

1037
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:25.639
<v Speaker 2>inside a camp and looking outwards. And the worst thing

1038
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 2>that has happened so far is I get a picture

1039
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 2>of me peen in the middle of the night that

1040
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I just erase it.

1041
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Here's the last question the sorm Sean falk Hey, Cliff,

1042
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 4>and Bobo. With my encounter, I remember to supply two things,

1043
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.440
<v Speaker 4>what the creature looked like and what it smelled like

1044
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 4>as a deer hunter. I tried to mask my scent

1045
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 4>to avoid being detected. Everyone tried to mock up a

1046
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.119
<v Speaker 4>sasquat scent based on the area of the setting and

1047
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 4>use that to become possibly more approachable, keep it squatchy.

1048
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.840
<v Speaker 4>So I used to jump into the old pull the

1049
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.199
<v Speaker 4>lid up, you know, the lid, and jump down in

1050
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 4>the twilet seat and jump down inside the port of

1051
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 4>potty and pay down there and get good and reeking

1052
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.960
<v Speaker 4>come out. But it didn't really work too good.

1053
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that was before I started camping with you.

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00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought it was going to work like a charm,

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00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 4>but I never did that. But how could you? How

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00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.519
<v Speaker 4>could you? I mean, it'd be so hard to it'so

1057
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.599
<v Speaker 4>like a squatch or osby watering so bad, Like I

1058
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 4>don't know if you even could, Like, how did you

1059
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:16.880
<v Speaker 4>mimic that?

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00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. Bambineck did. Bambeneck did a pretty

1061
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:24.239
<v Speaker 2>decent job with his sasquatch pheromone chips from osmic research.

1062
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.559
<v Speaker 2>But the sasquatches that I have smelled that I'm confident

1063
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 2>we're sasquatches. There's a couple other things that may or

1064
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:31.760
<v Speaker 2>may not have been. The three that I have smelled

1065
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 2>are pretty close, you know, about seventy five percent similar

1066
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to Bambeneck's chips and everything. So I don't know, I

1067
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Yeah, so people have tried it, and whether

1068
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:44.960
<v Speaker 2>or not it works is kind of up for grabs.

1069
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I know that they deployed one of those chips and

1070
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:51.199
<v Speaker 2>on the Skukum Cast expedition and they got the scuffem cast,

1071
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:52.400
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know if that played a part in

1072
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.639
<v Speaker 2>it or not. But some people have tried that sort

1073
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 2>of thing, and I used to try it, but then

1074
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.159
<v Speaker 2>it just makes me just is my car stink? You know,

1075
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Like those chips are pretty nasty. But other than that,

1076
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But I don't think sasquatches are super

1077
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, scent oriented anyway. Being being apes as they

1078
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 2>are just like us, you know, they're they're they're very visual,

1079
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I believe, but also a sasquatches, I think they're very

1080
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.320
<v Speaker 2>auditory as well. I think that a lot of what

1081
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.039
<v Speaker 2>they do is based on their hearing. Hearing in sight

1082
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.480
<v Speaker 2>are the two things that I think that they clew

1083
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.880
<v Speaker 2>into most probably not smell so much, although although now

1084
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.000
<v Speaker 2>that i'm saying it out loud and thinking about it.

1085
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Chris Minniere a good friend of ours. He was on

1086
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:38.199
<v Speaker 2>the Finding Bigfoot show. He was a great investigator down

1087
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 2>in the Eugene area kind of. He helped me with

1088
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the Mattress prints. He helped me with the London tracks.

1089
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 2>He's a great guy, super fun. The night he saw

1090
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 2>his sasquatch, he took a bandana I believe, or you know,

1091
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.679
<v Speaker 2>some towel anyway, but like a bandana and soaked it

1092
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:56.199
<v Speaker 2>in What is that really? Really inexpensive? After shape?

1093
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Is it a aqua velva?

1094
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Aqua velva? There we go, that's what I Yeah, he

1095
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.159
<v Speaker 2>soaked it in aqua velva and just hung it up

1096
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.559
<v Speaker 2>in a tree and let the wind carry the scent.

1097
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And apparently that was enough to bring in a sasquatch.

1098
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.039
<v Speaker 2>So that's not a sasquatch smell. I'm not saying bigfoot

1099
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 2>smell like aquavelva. But I think that if you put

1100
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.760
<v Speaker 2>an interesting scent out there, that are interesting stimuli, any

1101
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, sensory organ out there, the sasquatch might just

1102
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:26.280
<v Speaker 2>come in and check it out, like won, what is that?

1103
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Because they are smart, you know, they're pretty smart. Animals

1104
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 2>and when they come in, you know they're going to

1105
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>be curious about stuff. So but then against so we'll

1106
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:36.679
<v Speaker 2>bears by the way. So heads up on that.

1107
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Did you see the people that came out recently about

1108
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 4>how much better humans to smell than we thought? Like that,

1109
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 4>there's like they're not thirty aland times better, smaller like

1110
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 4>they don't have we have way more like we have

1111
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 4>way more in common sense receptors that we thought. It's

1112
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 4>just their brain processes, like eighty times better, like the

1113
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:56.039
<v Speaker 4>way their brain works.

1114
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:57.960
<v Speaker 2>No, send that to me, I'd be interested in that.

1115
00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:00.800
<v Speaker 4>I gotta find it again. It was you know, it

1116
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 4>was about humans, humans and other primates. We just overload

1117
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 4>our braind with other stuff. But our sense of smell

1118
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 4>is actually pretty pretty good, actually better than we thought.

1119
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that the other ape species have basically

1120
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the same you know, sense of smell we do, but

1121
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.559
<v Speaker 2>we've domesticated ourselves and kind of dulled our senses in

1122
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways, so that plays into it well

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00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 2>anyway that I guess that was the last question. But

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<v Speaker 2>we have a whole members episode to go record right now,

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00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 2>where our members on our Patreon account can ask us questions,

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00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:33.119
<v Speaker 2>and we do their questions pretty much every single week

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00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.679
<v Speaker 2>because we get a lot of questions from them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I even understand that one of our patrons left a

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00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 2>voice message for us, which is cool. So we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get to that in the members episode in just

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes here.

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<v Speaker 3>So I should clarify because we for the listeners, because

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00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:51.280
<v Speaker 3>we've got a few emails and I was like, ah,

1134
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was obvious, but maybe I should clarify.

1135
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Is that, you know, we record these in a single sitting,

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00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:58.599
<v Speaker 3>so every week, you know, we put out a main

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<v Speaker 3>episode on Monday and a bonus episode on Thursdays, and

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<v Speaker 3>we record those two episodes in one sitting, and occasionally

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00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:07.119
<v Speaker 3>we get an email from someone like, oh, hey, I

1140
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 3>heard you guys say at the end of the episode

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00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:10.800
<v Speaker 3>you were going to the member section, but then nothing

1142
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.639
<v Speaker 3>popped up, and so they should understand what in our

1143
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.320
<v Speaker 3>world we're going over to record a different session for

1144
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 3>the members. But if you're a member, you will get

1145
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.880
<v Speaker 3>that on the Thursday after you hear this episode on

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00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 3>the Monday. So just to clarify, I.

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00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Don't think you should spoil the magic like that and

1148
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.320
<v Speaker 2>say that we record them all in one sitting. Can

1149
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:32.519
<v Speaker 2>we just say that the Big One Beyond is paranormal.

1150
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we record them outside of time and space.

1151
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, we go into a portal, we hold

1152
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 2>hands with big foots, go into a portal and then

1153
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 2>record and actually we don't even record on a computer.

1154
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:48.960
<v Speaker 2>We just do it via mind speak astral plane.

1155
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<v Speaker 4>There you go.

1156
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.519
<v Speaker 3>If that were true, our guests, you know, our guests

1157
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:55.840
<v Speaker 3>would be like Carl Jung and Bruce Lee if I

1158
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 3>could help it.

1159
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.480
<v Speaker 2>That red light recording symbol, it's actually.

1160
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Just an orb. Yeah.

1161
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Our guest this week is John Green.

1162
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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Yeah, we're done. Let's go record the member section,

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00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and if you want to be a member, you can

1164
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>go to Big Fit and Beyond podcast dot com hit

1165
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 2>the membership links and you can join us and get

1166
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 2>an extra hour of content every single week. You can

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00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 2>also get this episode you just now listened to with

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00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.440
<v Speaker 2>zero commercials. I understand. Matt even goes through and pulls

1169
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:29.039
<v Speaker 2>out the read things that we that aren't really inserted.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how the ads work or whatever. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of them are like put in by computers depending on

1172
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<v Speaker 2>where you live, and other ones we record ourselves. I

1173
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 2>have to understand Matt Prude is now pulling those out

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00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 2>to make sure you have the most seamless, ad free

1175
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.559
<v Speaker 2>experience you possibly can on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>So thank you, Matt yep, thank you Matt. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 4>and thank you for listening. Hit like, hit share, spread

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<v Speaker 4>the word, and until next week, y'all keep it be honest, squatchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well brung one.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not just squatchy, oh fie, pick that out for

1181
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.840
<v Speaker 6>it now, keep it in you guys are just talking

1182
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 6>about so maybe think all right, all right, folks, que squatchy.

1183
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening to this week's episode of Bigfoot and Beyond.

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1185
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.239
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1186
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:23.519
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1187
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1188
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:30.840
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00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.239
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