Speaker 1: Breaking down all the exes and ohs. This is I
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to in the Ball Girrel, Fox Forth
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Troy Hutchinson and your
Speaker 2: one you have one with breaking news.
Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball, Breaking News on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Happy money to everyone out there. Here's truly mister goody
Speaker 3: two shoes on Monday. Feel a little bit weird Monday,
Speaker 3: and you're still mister goody two shoes.
Speaker 4: I guess so. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Starting off breaking news, we obviously had Chattita Stubbs on earlier,
Speaker 3: head coach of Arizona Women's volleyball. They have their NIVC
Speaker 3: championship matchup tomorrow against Bowling Green six o'clock.
Speaker 2: Yes, a m plus go and cheer them on four thousand.
Speaker 2: I thought she was gonna say like eight or nine,
Speaker 2: which she's four thousand. It seems good volleyball. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a that's a real good volleyball crowd. She can
Speaker 2: get that show out and she said, bear down, show out.
Speaker 2: Uh to Arizona football.
Speaker 3: It's a transfer portal season and this time, Arizona gained
Speaker 3: instead of lost.
Speaker 4: Gained a couple two three We Jose.
Speaker 3: State cornerback Michael Dansby committed today as well as a
Speaker 3: former Texas cornerback, Javeon Cole.
Speaker 2: So so, mister recruiting guy, Troy, upgrades not upgrades, do
Speaker 2: you know? Because again to my point is, you have
Speaker 2: a guy who didn't play much at Texas. Maybe he
Speaker 2: wasn't good enough for Texas? Is you good enough for Arizona?
Speaker 2: One and two? You have another guy Santose State and
Speaker 2: you hear all the criticism for there getting guys from
Speaker 2: Sanquose State in New Mexico.
Speaker 4: Okay, so what's the big deal? You know?
Speaker 5: I think in terms of the guy from Texas Cole,
Speaker 5: who was an All Conference, All Mountain West performer last season,
Speaker 5: you go to Texas, there's a lot of those. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of those types of players. Wait, he was
Speaker 5: somewhere else before Texas. It was at San Jose State
Speaker 5: prior to Texas before, so he was that he was
Speaker 5: under Brennan Texas. Okay, they didn't offer him the first
Speaker 5: time around. He went to Texas because he had so
Speaker 5: many big offers. He had Texas USC and others leaves
Speaker 5: Texas didn't get the playing time. It's going to go
Speaker 5: back with Brennan to Arizona. I think that's a great fit.
Speaker 5: Dansby will see foreign receptions in the Mountain West. Very
Speaker 5: good corner. But what are you gonna do at the
Speaker 5: pack Big twelve. I've almost said packed a Big twelve level.
Speaker 5: And you still have guys out there in terms of
Speaker 5: Jacob Manu, Terrence Trade and suits and guys like that.
Speaker 5: But Arizona still could bring back at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, do you hear anything, Well, Manu's on a
Speaker 5: recruiting visit to Washington, which is no surprise.
Speaker 2: Of course, the surprise, of course, And why not get
Speaker 2: wined and dined right before you say I'm going to.
Speaker 5: Be And I think that's the biggest thing in Arizona.
Speaker 5: Fans look at it and say, wow, this is a problem. Well,
Speaker 5: this is how it is across the country. These players
Speaker 5: have one more year left, they want to go to
Speaker 5: a Bilin. They're gonna get winded to nine and see
Speaker 5: where everything lays.
Speaker 3: Good weekend of college basketball. Number one Tennessee survived at Illinois.
Speaker 3: On the last second show sixty six sixty four. You
Speaker 3: had you Dayton Dayton dating upsetting Marquee seventy one six.
Speaker 4: That's your second big win of the year. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, Yukon took care of Gonzaga in New York seventy seven,
Speaker 3: seventy one. The Florida Gators took care of the Sun
Speaker 3: Devils eighty three to sixty six.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: Texas A and m beat per Due seventy to sixty six.
Speaker 3: Clemson got beat by Memphis on their home court. Was
Speaker 3: good eighty seventy two. John Miller lost to Cincinnati sixty
Speaker 3: eight sixty five.
Speaker 4: He hates that. And since city rival, I've been grown
Speaker 4: in smiling. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And of course uh in Phoenix Foot Prince Center, UCLA
Speaker 3: beat Arizona fifty seven fifty four.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was just a bizarre game. And the old runner
Speaker 2: was one forty seven. And I said, anybody who, if
Speaker 2: they keep Arizona in the sixties, they're not gonna win.
Speaker 2: Arizona's not gonna win. Slow them down, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: They didn't even get to sixty. The under was w
Speaker 2: under easily under. Yeah, it's just Arizona's just not finding
Speaker 2: a way to hit some shots or score.
Speaker 5: And again they're they're in these games late. They just
Speaker 5: when it's late and it's close, they can't find a
Speaker 5: way to put the ball in the bucket.
Speaker 2: There's only one guy that's gonna do that, and it's
Speaker 2: Jaydeen Bradley. He's gonna have his ball, the ball in
Speaker 2: his hand a lot and have to take control. I
Speaker 2: can't even remember what did you remember the response that
Speaker 2: I asked for Jane Bread.
Speaker 4: It was kind of a wish. She watched. She like,
Speaker 4: we'll see, Yeah, what could he say?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: But he who would you trust? Honestly?
Speaker 2: Who would you trust in that team? I don't even
Speaker 2: trust Jayden to be honest all them?
Speaker 4: That's how bad this. This is how bad? The team
Speaker 4: is pretty bad?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you think without in a heartbeat, what
Speaker 2: would you say? You know, heartbeat love?
Speaker 4: Love? The guy love not even close to saying love.
Speaker 5: I think the one, the one thing that he might
Speaker 5: have to think about is putting love back on the
Speaker 5: ball and saying our plan of having them mount the ball,
Speaker 5: screw it, it's not working.
Speaker 4: Let's go back to what we were doing. Okay, good luck?
Speaker 2: I agree, but no, no, no, no, no, Hey, if
Speaker 2: you can try to solve the problem, that's maybe a
Speaker 2: problem solver.
Speaker 4: Who does ken do? You don't know until you do it. What?
Speaker 5: And you know, we kind of talked about this earlier.
Speaker 5: Who's the guy on the coaching staff that's missing Cardialvoye? Yeah,
Speaker 5: the developer, the developer, the good, the good cop to
Speaker 5: Tommy's back cop.
Speaker 4: Yeah? Or the is that? How was? Oh?
Speaker 2: Definitely okay, Tommy's the tom him.
Speaker 5: Doesn't get like Tommy doesn't get fired up like a
Speaker 5: Sean Miller. But sitting behind that bench during the pack
Speaker 5: Call tournament, I remember two years ago when Christian Colloco
Speaker 5: was on the team. He was getting beat by Stanford
Speaker 5: Download on the post. He they called him out and
Speaker 5: he landed into Christian. It's the it's the most I've
Speaker 5: ever seen Tommy land into a player. And I'm not
Speaker 5: going to say what he said because there's some coaching
Speaker 5: words you don't use. And all of a sudden, Christian
Speaker 5: sits down for Cardio voice comes over and goes, hey,
Speaker 5: we still love you. We're gonna need you out there
Speaker 5: like you're a good player. You are that guy, go
Speaker 5: out and hill them, You're that dude. Christian goes on
Speaker 5: to have a great game. Tommy goes up to them
Speaker 5: and says, see, I told you you can do it.
Speaker 5: So there's a good cop back. Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: And last year's shot Tommy into into Kyland was pretty
Speaker 2: pretty big too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay. To the NBA, great Popovich gave an update.
Speaker 3: He's recovering well from his stroke that he had November second,
Speaker 3: So it was at the arena they had a game
Speaker 3: and it was a mild stroke.
Speaker 4: He's been recovering.
Speaker 3: He's what seventy something, yeah, seventy five, seventy five. He
Speaker 3: had coached the first five games, went two and three,
Speaker 3: and then suffered that mild stroke.
Speaker 4: It's weird. It's weird.
Speaker 2: And I'm at the age now where I'm trying to
Speaker 2: figure out my end game, which is many years to come.
Speaker 2: But a lot of these coaches who have more money
Speaker 2: than they need, don't know when to end their game.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And you are you a San antoniosperg Yeah, so you
Speaker 2: know he's done a lot, been there, done that, one,
Speaker 2: a few championships, have a great career. And if you wouldn't,
Speaker 2: if you said goodbye tomorrow, you'd understand, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of these people just belcher, what do you
Speaker 4: what do you say okay, goodbye. What's the point of
Speaker 4: what continuing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's no point unless you really love the game.
Speaker 2: And it's well, yeah, you'd have to ask them. Know
Speaker 2: we're speaking for them right now, but you know, maybe
Speaker 2: you Well the thing is too when you're and I
Speaker 2: said this, one asked the competitors or the athletes, what
Speaker 2: do you do to get the juices going to compete? Well, I, coach,
Speaker 2: and this is what I know. In fact, I was
Speaker 2: so bored today. I'm thinking I'd be bad in retirement.
Speaker 2: I just I would be. I know I would be.
Speaker 2: So I gotta figure out what I want to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, coach h R. Coach rivera crap on the radio.
Speaker 3: So over the weekend, the Maths and Warriors had a
Speaker 3: really good game. They combined for forty eight threes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and the divel Smavericks beat the Warriors. It was like
Speaker 3: one forty something to something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thirties Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was watching the volleyball game, like I was telling
Speaker 2: Coach Tubbs, and it was such a fantastic volleyball game
Speaker 2: and seeing the score on the ticker thing, I needed
Speaker 2: to change the channel, but I didn't want to change
Speaker 2: the shadow.
Speaker 4: So that was that was Klay Thompson's return to the baby.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, No, he had already done that because
Speaker 2: they had to celebrated with hats with they gave away
Speaker 2: the sailor hats.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So NBA Cup coming to a conclusion tomorrow. Chris Middleton
Speaker 3: missed practice today with an illness. He is he's questionable
Speaker 3: right now to show up for the final.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean yeah, I mean he's he's been the
Speaker 5: guy over the last year and a half where injuries
Speaker 5: are kind of plaguing him right now. But in terms
Speaker 5: of the NBA Cup, I don't know if this is
Speaker 5: an unmopular opinion.
Speaker 4: Can we get rid of it already? Two years? It
Speaker 4: doesn't work. I listen to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Lakers won it last year. They did the
Speaker 5: little celebration. Nobody cares Lebron even playing. Is he still no?
Speaker 5: He played, came back. I believe last night they won.
Speaker 5: IM sure it's just body catching up to him or something.
Speaker 5: It feels like the league is sports senates saying, oh,
Speaker 5: it's working while it's working on Oh okay, I don't
Speaker 5: believe you.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even pay attention to that because who
Speaker 2: watches the NBA now?
Speaker 5: Honestly, the best thing that it's done is for teams
Speaker 5: like Phoenix that are binging up and other teams like that.
Speaker 5: You're only playing two games a week now, you're getting healthy. Cool,
Speaker 5: thank you? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again over the weekend, the Bucks did beat
Speaker 3: the Hawks one and ten two one O two.
Speaker 4: Thunder beat the Rockets one hundred and eleven two ninety six. Bucks.
Speaker 3: Hawks are Bucks Thunder tomorrow night for the championship. Like
Speaker 3: I said, great weekend of NBA. Lebron came back, Sons
Speaker 3: beat Tildblazers one sixteen to one O nine. And yeah,
Speaker 3: so outside of the NBA, good another day of NFL football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a breaking news. A guy who's been
Speaker 2: on our show a few times. You might get him
Speaker 2: on this week, mister Nugent. Pat Nugent retired today the
Speaker 2: end game, like we were talking about, right, going out
Speaker 2: on top, which you should and say goodbye.
Speaker 4: I don't need this crap anymore. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, champion at at Mike Mountain a week or
Speaker 2: so ago, right when.
Speaker 5: The state title. Yeah, yeah, I'll build that. Michael out
Speaker 5: from program after building Siana c Yeah, yeah, good coach.
Speaker 5: I'll probably try to get him on. Maybe I need
Speaker 5: a co host. See what he wants to do?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So the forty nine Ers suspended linebacker Devandre
Speaker 3: Campbell for three games refusing to play in last Thursday's
Speaker 3: game against the Rams.
Speaker 4: Why do you? Why do you refuse to play? I
Speaker 4: didn't see that.
Speaker 3: I'm still unsure about that, but I'm sure it was
Speaker 3: at a game he didn't want to be a part
Speaker 3: of it or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that cost him his party's career. Now it's like,
Speaker 2: who's that brown?
Speaker 4: Brown?
Speaker 3: No, No, Antonio. Yeah. The Lions will be without David
Speaker 3: Montgomery and Alan McNeil for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: Big loss for the Lions is they won. Two punch
Speaker 3: just turned into a one punch with Jimier Gibbs. See
Speaker 3: what happens with them? They lost to the Bills this weekend.
Speaker 3: Cheeves quarterback Patrick Mahomes has a high angle spread after
Speaker 3: being folded up on during the game against the Browns.
Speaker 3: See what happens with him? They beat the Browns twenty
Speaker 3: one to seven, and some other good games. The Broncos
Speaker 3: beat the Colts thirty one thirteen Bills beat the Lions
Speaker 3: forty forty two Eagles. Steelers ended in a Eagles victory
Speaker 3: twenty seven to thirteen. Sur Probably one for me was
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers beat down on the Chargers forty to seventeen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dismandle them and that that was what that was,
Speaker 5: seventeen to ten Chargers at one point. Yeah, this rattled
Speaker 5: on thirty three points.
Speaker 2: Right that game and the Buffalo Detroit game was fantastic.
Speaker 2: I thought that game was a good game, all those points,
Speaker 2: a lot of points being scored.
Speaker 5: But are you shocked, like you know, you look at
Speaker 5: the Chargers and see a couple bad losses hot start
Speaker 5: Classic Charger of football. Yeah, I mean that's very very
Speaker 5: San diego over them, very Charger alike.
Speaker 3: So then Monday night football we have the Bears going
Speaker 3: up against the Vikings, Falcas playing the Raiders, a couple
Speaker 3: of minor league games. You want to say, if you
Speaker 3: want to call it that, I like the doubleheaders.
Speaker 4: It gives me. I do, but get different options, give
Speaker 4: us good games.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's so many great games in the second
Speaker 5: half of the second slate of games for the afternoon
Speaker 5: on Sunday, But some of these crappy games there, yeah,
Speaker 5: and just move move those better games around. Give the
Speaker 5: winning teams their time on brundown.
Speaker 3: Should probably should have been the the bills and lines,
Speaker 3: either on Sunday Night Football or tonight.
Speaker 4: But we get what we get.
Speaker 3: So FAU is going to be approving a twenty two
Speaker 3: point five million dollar stadium naming rights deal. The Flagler
Speaker 3: Credit Union will be on the name of the football stadium.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's in Miami, right, fifteen yeah, fifteen year deal.
Speaker 4: At some point, Arizona was going to do that. At
Speaker 4: some point they were.
Speaker 5: Apparently somebody told me that they were close many years
Speaker 5: ago before the sports betting became popular with one of
Speaker 5: the casinos out here in Tucson, and the university said no, no, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that doesn't surprise me because you know, betting in college
Speaker 5: wasn't a thing back then.
Speaker 4: Right now it's now it's commonplace. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think we're gonna get a casino dold soul
Speaker 3: Arizona stadium That would be the.
Speaker 4: Most realistic one raytheon. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think they spend money, but maybe not. But
Speaker 2: you know something, it'll be something. It'll eventually in my lifetime,
Speaker 2: it'll eventually happen.
Speaker 4: It asked.
Speaker 2: They got to get out of this mess, and they
Speaker 2: gotta pay the kids, they gotta do all these crap things.
Speaker 4: I don't know. They're gonna put something on Michael Center eventually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all for sale. It's a it's a it's
Speaker 2: a big lot. Come we get it, baby, if you
Speaker 2: could afford it and come and get it to fire sale.
Speaker 3: So Sacramento State is in discussions with Michael Vick to
Speaker 3: become their head coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that. I saw Norfolk State earlier. What
Speaker 2: did you say, Sacramento State. No, it's I thought Norfolk.
Speaker 2: It's he's a state. Have it on ESPN, the Sacramento State. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well I thought it was somewhere else.
Speaker 3: I also I saw something different too, and then I
Speaker 3: saw Sacramento State. I said, oh wow, Really he was
Speaker 3: also interviewing with Norfolk State. Okay, job, But it looks
Speaker 3: like the discussions with Sacramento State have picked up.
Speaker 2: We live in a time. We live in a time
Speaker 2: which is I'm fine with it. Here's a guy who's
Speaker 2: convicted of doing whatever he did, and now he's a
Speaker 2: head coach, and and you can go political and think
Speaker 2: whatever we live in a time when second and third
Speaker 2: chances are good.
Speaker 4: I guess, and that's the only comment I'll make it. Well.
Speaker 5: And also former athletes becoming head coaches with very little
Speaker 5: coaching experience.
Speaker 2: Right well j Reddick that yeah, that and former players
Speaker 2: becoming not journalists but comment hitters without going to school.
Speaker 4: Robert Grif Yeah, that's a ton of them. Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Don't I feel sorry for you guys, because you guys
Speaker 2: are going to and I teach some of them, journals
Speaker 2: of guys, you know, TV people, and now they're getting
Speaker 2: their jobs taken away by name people.
Speaker 3: That was the goal going into college for me, become
Speaker 3: the next guys Johnson.
Speaker 4: But we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 3: So Penn State quarterback Drew Aller is returning for a
Speaker 3: senior year Penn State.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of guys leaving now on the playoff teams. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the coach is saying, if you're going, you can't play.
Speaker 5: You know, there's two things they need to fix about
Speaker 5: the transfer portal. One is the re entry if you've
Speaker 5: already been in there, entering a second time after being
Speaker 5: at a program or returning to your program just like that,
Speaker 5: you get to play. They need to set some limits
Speaker 5: to fix this craziness. And two, let's have the transfer
Speaker 5: portal open up after the college will Bull playoffs. If
Speaker 5: you're on a team, I'm sorry, play play on the team.
Speaker 5: Just be ready to play. You were there, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was kind of weird last year when you had
Speaker 5: Blanking on his name.
Speaker 3: Now, but the Washington quarterback on the sideline during the
Speaker 3: National championship No, no, Michael be explained, No, I know,
Speaker 3: I know, I know Pen was his backup. But the
Speaker 3: quarterback for Washington this year.
Speaker 4: Oh, what's his name? I'm not Rogers, Will Rogers, Will Rogers.
Speaker 4: He was on the sideline during that national chess being
Speaker 4: transferred in before the championship game. Yeah, I thought that
Speaker 4: was a bit weird.
Speaker 3: Last thing I got wake Forest Dave Clawson resigned as
Speaker 3: the football head coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah probably, yeah, that's how it was written. Something might
Speaker 2: be saying that he was forced out. Yeah, okay, let's go.
Speaker 2: We go and get Bruce Pascal here on the other side.
Speaker 2: About three minutes.
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Speaker 4: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
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Speaker 2: In with me, Today's Troy Hutchinson and Juan Now we
Speaker 2: have Bruce Pasca from the Arizona do this star?
Speaker 4: Bruce? How are you good?
Speaker 14: How are you guys?
Speaker 2: We're doing fine, thanks Bruce. So we're we're we're watching
Speaker 2: the game in Phoenix. Uh, and I'm thinking, God, what's
Speaker 2: up with this team? And these lineups that he has
Speaker 2: are kind of kind of wampus or whatever word you
Speaker 2: want to use. What's going through your mind as you're
Speaker 2: witnessing it? Because I've covered it for a long time,
Speaker 2: You've covered it for a long time.
Speaker 4: What do you see.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, it's kind of been the same thing
Speaker 14: all years. Just the offense is not quite right and
Speaker 14: it's like disjointed parts. I think these still are kind
Speaker 14: of struggling to find the right flows and the rotation,
Speaker 14: and you know, ball movement's been compromised. I don't know
Speaker 14: whether that's some individual things or just you know, lack
Speaker 14: of togetherness or just or what it is. It's and
Speaker 14: then I think at the same time, it's just it's
Speaker 14: just been tested by really a pretty tough schedule. And
Speaker 14: you know, in UCLA in particular, was you know, they
Speaker 14: came into this game leading the country in turnover margin,
Speaker 14: you know, twenty seven percent opponents turnovers or twenty seven
Speaker 14: percent of their opposite Their opponents were turning the ball
Speaker 14: over on twenty seven percent of their possessions. Arizona did
Speaker 14: it on thirty four percent of their possessions. It just,
Speaker 14: you know, they they was a meat grinder kind of
Speaker 14: deal and they just, you know, they're not ready for that.
Speaker 14: And and that's you know, obviously disconcerting. And I think,
Speaker 14: you know, in retrospect, they probably might have toned down
Speaker 14: the schedule a little bit. But you know, as we
Speaker 14: all know that in the state and age, you don't
Speaker 14: you never know until May or Jue what your team
Speaker 14: is going to look like for the next year. So
Speaker 14: these these games, even though they're not set up as
Speaker 14: far in advance as football, he's still you know, they
Speaker 14: don't know exactly what they're going to have, and it
Speaker 14: just it just sort of hit them all at once.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Bruce, you look at the turnovers and
Speaker 5: he pointed out twenty two turnovers sixteen assists. Who on
Speaker 5: the team, in your opinion right now is that distributor?
Speaker 5: And do they have one somebody that can make this
Speaker 5: offense flow?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, it starts with
Speaker 14: Jayden Bradley. He's been you know, about what they expected.
Speaker 14: But but you know, I think secondarily that's kind of
Speaker 14: where it's breaking down sometimes. And I think they you know,
Speaker 14: last year, they had you know, some experience really good
Speaker 14: ball handlers in the middle there, you know, with with
Speaker 14: pl Larson and you know, even Johnson seemed to adapt
Speaker 14: pretty well to that, and it just hasn't worked with
Speaker 14: this group so far. And that's even with you know,
Speaker 14: there's been signs of that, but it's again, it's just
Speaker 14: not quite clicking right, and I think it's you know,
Speaker 14: it's just been everything looked a little worse because Caleb
Speaker 14: Glove's been off so much too, and they just can't
Speaker 14: get you know, very consistent shooting from him, and that's
Speaker 14: sort of dragged the whole thing down.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you before the season started, I'm
Speaker 2: sure you're high on the team because you're close to them,
Speaker 2: you know what kind of talent, And then you see Townsend,
Speaker 2: then you see Twentsen kind of not living up, and
Speaker 2: then Walka doing what he does, and just it seems
Speaker 2: like the talent level is just not there.
Speaker 14: Well you know, I mean, yeah, you know, I did
Speaker 14: think I still had him in the top twenty, but
Speaker 14: I didn't rank him as high as other people because
Speaker 14: they lost four starters, I mean slices. Even in this
Speaker 14: same age, that's hard to do to replace that many starters.
Speaker 14: And unless you're you know, really good and what you're
Speaker 14: getting out of high school or in the portal and
Speaker 14: you know, Talenton is interesting. He was think really highly
Speaker 14: as a as a portal transfer. You know, I think
Speaker 14: based a lot on the fact that he had two
Speaker 14: really good games in the tournament, and you know, that
Speaker 14: you could project that he would play well at this
Speaker 14: at this level. He's actually he played well against Wisconsin,
Speaker 14: you know, not not not as well in some of
Speaker 14: the other losses that Arizona his had and and I
Speaker 14: think a Waka has been kind of what they expected.
Speaker 14: It's kind of a banger and a really good instinctive rebounder,
Speaker 14: tough guy, but he's the one guy on the team
Speaker 14: has really brought some toughness. The problem is, of course
Speaker 14: the creative has been out and now maybe out for
Speaker 14: who knows how long, and and so they've had to
Speaker 14: rely on a lot of more than they probably thought
Speaker 14: they would have to. So that that's that's just kind
Speaker 14: of been a draw out there, you know. But it's
Speaker 14: it's it's hard to you know, to go into that
Speaker 14: portal and you know, I think you know, ever been
Speaker 14: coming out of it. Those were two pretty good pieces.
Speaker 14: Certainly personality wise, they seem to be they're both good
Speaker 14: guys and all that. It just hasn't, you know, been
Speaker 14: quite the production that they were hoping for.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people talk about the transfer
Speaker 5: editions the four starters from the lineup like he brought
Speaker 5: brought up, but also what hasn't really been talked about
Speaker 5: this season, is the coaching changes. You see Ricardo Foye
Speaker 5: move off the coaching staff, and I've gotten the chance
Speaker 5: to talk to Riccardo. I know you have as Welber's
Speaker 5: high basketball mind and a great developer of talent. It's
Speaker 5: hard to replace that when when you have those coaches.
Speaker 5: Leaven and Arizona did it from within and right now,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that that's part of the problem, but it
Speaker 5: is hard to replace a coach like Riccardo voice.
Speaker 14: You know, that's a great point, Troy, and I think
Speaker 14: about that earlier today. Actually the player development point. You know,
Speaker 14: he's known for that. It's hard for us to tell
Speaker 14: exactly how that's translating or what's happening, but guys, generally,
Speaker 14: you know, we're getting better. But I think that the
Speaker 14: other thing that I thought about without him is he
Speaker 14: was probably the most fiery of all those guys on
Speaker 14: the bench. I mean, you know, Tommy Lloyd used to
Speaker 14: joke about, you know, he's just you know, red blooded,
Speaker 14: the Italian guy, just going crazy or whatever. But you
Speaker 14: know what, maybe that's what the team needs right now,
Speaker 14: you know. I mean there was that time you know,
Speaker 14: you guys watched against Saturday. They're up thirteen, they're up eleven,
Speaker 14: they're up nine. Yeah, it's the kind of not really
Speaker 14: not really with that killer instinct. You know, maybe there's
Speaker 14: just a little a little a little more fire in
Speaker 14: them might have helped. You know, it sounds kind of basic,
Speaker 14: but I think in some cases, you know, it can
Speaker 14: make the difference between a between a stop here there,
Speaker 14: or maybe even the guy who drives in and picks
Speaker 14: up a fowl, or just that little extra edge and maybe,
Speaker 14: you know, maybe he might you know, maybe they would
Speaker 14: have had more that with him. It's hard to say,
Speaker 14: but it does make you wonder you're right, because that
Speaker 14: is probably you know, he hasn't Tommy Wit hasn't had
Speaker 14: any changes to his staff. He's had a couple additions,
Speaker 14: but no subtractions really until Ricardo Ricky left up Up
Speaker 14: and so that was that was you know, that was significant, you.
Speaker 5: Have no oh okay, yeah, And in terms of Kayla Love,
Speaker 5: you know, we brought this up earlier, how they talked
Speaker 5: about having him play off the ball, having to move
Speaker 5: without the basketball and learn how to score without the
Speaker 5: ball in his hands, similar to like a Klay Thompson,
Speaker 5: Steph Curry what you see on Golden State. I don't
Speaker 5: know if it's just me, Bruce, but I don't know
Speaker 5: if you've noticed as well. Most of the game, if
Speaker 5: he doesn't have the ball in his hands, and we
Speaker 5: had a caller bring this up, he's sitting there at
Speaker 5: that elbow. There's not a lot of movement. And so
Speaker 5: is that game plan of what you wanted to do
Speaker 5: this season? Do you need to toss that out the window?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: And plus, Bruce, I think he was you last week
Speaker 2: who asked me about his situation. I asked him at
Speaker 2: the game a week or show ago, you know what's
Speaker 2: going on with him?
Speaker 4: And he says he's gonna be fine. Yeah, yea.
Speaker 2: And then you kind of followed up with the question
Speaker 2: two about him four days later about his playing and
Speaker 2: he talked to you about defending on the opposite side,
Speaker 2: being more engaged, being active, and he's none of that.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I mean, you know how it goes good.
Speaker 14: I think it's the old thing too a little bit.
Speaker 14: When your shot is not hitting, it's hard to keep
Speaker 14: motivated to do the other things. You know, sometimes guys
Speaker 14: can work the other way. You know, when they're not
Speaker 14: shots often to get more determined to grab that rebound
Speaker 14: or move or whatever or set somebody else up. Yeah,
Speaker 14: it's but it's not quite happening.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 14: I think that's you know, as I said before, it's
Speaker 14: kind of the I think the heart of their ball movement.
Speaker 14: It may be some of the secondary movements. You know,
Speaker 14: guys like you know, kJ Lewis, they need to you know,
Speaker 14: help move the move the ball around a lot. Delors
Speaker 14: is kind of a catch a shoot guy, so you know,
Speaker 14: I don't know there, but he has experience with a
Speaker 14: team that that cut moved a lot at Campbell, and
Speaker 14: you know, why aren't those pieces come together? It's it's
Speaker 14: it's a little puzzling and and and Caleb Love makes
Speaker 14: it tricky because he's he's uh, you know, he's talented
Speaker 14: and proving, and he says all the right things, and
Speaker 14: you know, and he tend to to believe at some
Speaker 14: point it's going to come around. And I think I
Speaker 14: certainly thought that, you know, but we're getting pretty deep
Speaker 14: into the you know, into the season here for for
Speaker 14: trends anyway, and and it's just not happening so far.
Speaker 2: So you know, so if I can't ask you because
Speaker 2: you you hang around Tommy every now him, you'll hang
Speaker 2: around it, but you know, your follow a lot. Uh.
Speaker 4: And then we see him here on occasion.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think that he's kind of
Speaker 2: an Aeschex kind of coach, you know, for good about Uh?
Speaker 4: What do you think this is eating at him? What
Speaker 4: do you think he's going through?
Speaker 14: Oh?
Speaker 15: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 14: I actually think that, you know, people sometimes think because
Speaker 14: he's so affable and genuine and all these you know,
Speaker 14: kind of upbeat characteristics, he's actually very competitive. I've seen
Speaker 14: that side of him on a you know, not we
Speaker 14: don't go to practice usually, but you know, just in
Speaker 14: certain things and and uh, no, I think it is
Speaker 14: absolutely you know. I mean I remember even I think
Speaker 14: even after the UH session might even have been the
Speaker 14: old Domini game or one of the early games. And
Speaker 14: I you know, I just caught him briefly after the
Speaker 14: press conference and he said, I'm like, I got to
Speaker 14: get this thing. I got to get this rotation right.
Speaker 14: You know, this isn't working. He knew it, and it
Speaker 14: was bothering him then. And they were they were you know,
Speaker 14: they hadn't run into the problems that they haven't lost
Speaker 14: they games at that point, and you know, so it's
Speaker 14: absolutely going to be But you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 14: it's tricky because you know, as a coach, do you
Speaker 14: do do you show that all in the public, you know,
Speaker 14: you know, or do you want to keep everyone up beat?
Speaker 14: Maybe maybe he's doing you know, I think he's one
Speaker 14: of these coaches where behind the scenes he's a little
Speaker 14: more negative than he is with us. But you know,
Speaker 14: it wouldn't you know, I don't really know for sure,
Speaker 14: honestly I don't, but I definitely do think it is
Speaker 14: even most there's no question. I mean, if he's never
Speaker 14: been in this position before. They they've won every game
Speaker 14: in November till this year, and and most of his
Speaker 14: teams have been really really good out of the gate
Speaker 14: and even into January and then usually still pretty good,
Speaker 14: sometimes level off, but they've never started as obviously anything
Speaker 14: close to a whole like this. So it's you know,
Speaker 14: it's it's it's different. It's very different. And I don't
Speaker 14: think even that, you know, I think at Gonzago and
Speaker 14: he was in sitting you know, they certainly had some
Speaker 14: rough non conference plays here and there. But but then
Speaker 14: they go in the West Coast Conference and they can
Speaker 14: figure it out against that competition. This is this is
Speaker 14: the opposite here, They're going to go to the Big
Speaker 14: Twelve and it's not going to get any easier.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know with that, Arizona has two games
Speaker 5: before the Big twelve play was Samford and Central Michigan.
Speaker 5: Is that enough time to to fix some Is that
Speaker 5: enough time to fix some of these issues?
Speaker 4: Or is it going to be into Big twelve plays?
Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem with to Yeah, yeah, going, well
Speaker 2: that's that's said.
Speaker 4: Okay, they play who the Sford and Central Michigan.
Speaker 2: Okay, so so if they win those games, okay, big
Speaker 2: deal because they've won against those guys. Right, So so
Speaker 2: now you have the losses against pretty good teams. Guess
Speaker 2: what they have up up in the Big twelve? Pretty
Speaker 2: damn good teams. So so if they can't beat these
Speaker 2: other teams, what's the things that they're gonna be able
Speaker 2: to survive the Big twelve?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 14: Right? I mean this is absolutely I thought coming out
Speaker 14: of Atlantis was a big deal because they had you know,
Speaker 14: basically two weeks with that just that one game against
Speaker 14: Southern Utah, and I think they use that to their advantage,
Speaker 14: and they you know, and they they did show some
Speaker 14: good things against UCLA. US is just really good defensively
Speaker 14: and got to them and then they yeah, they did
Speaker 14: kind of melt down, which was a problem. But I think,
Speaker 14: you know, you could argue that X and O's wise
Speaker 14: and all that they maybe had shown some signs of
Speaker 14: improvement over this last two week period because they didn't
Speaker 14: really get any time to work on things after well,
Speaker 14: they did after Wisconsin and then after Dukelum they went
Speaker 14: right to the Bahamas and you know, when all that
Speaker 14: went that didn't go well, they really haven't had a
Speaker 14: whole lot of time to kind of retrench and you know,
Speaker 14: work on this stuff. So now they're at home for
Speaker 14: this week, two home games, then that bill breaks to
Speaker 14: the holidays. But you know, when they come back, they'll
Speaker 14: have a good three or four days to kind of
Speaker 14: work again on themselves, you know, and maybe going home,
Speaker 14: and you know, you know, Steve, how it is with
Speaker 14: the you know, these these guys, I mean maybe going home.
Speaker 4: Over Christmas break.
Speaker 14: They're gonna go home and instead of everyone telling them
Speaker 14: how great they are, nobody's gonna be telling them how
Speaker 14: great they are, and you know, they might sit on
Speaker 14: them a little bit and maybe they come back it's
Speaker 14: a different focus. And then they'll have three or four
Speaker 14: days to to kind of you know, keep working on
Speaker 14: things as a team. And then and then they get
Speaker 14: a home game. You know, fortunately for them, they get
Speaker 14: a home game against TCU to kind of start that off,
Speaker 14: and you know, if they can turn things around, maybe
Speaker 14: look good in that TCU game. Then they go on
Speaker 14: the road Cincinnati West Virginia feeling maybe a little better
Speaker 14: about themselves and you know, maybe they can split that
Speaker 14: trip and uh and feel pretty good.
Speaker 16: At that point.
Speaker 2: So is December seventeenth or seventeenth, right, sixteen seventeen. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go on the record now, Troy, they're gonna make
Speaker 2: the playoffs, make the instably, No, uh.
Speaker 4: What I think they? I think they will. They're going
Speaker 4: to figure it out, Bruce.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think they'll figure it out. But they're they're
Speaker 14: they are gonna be trended into bubble territory obviously, But
Speaker 14: I think they can fiigured out enough and I think
Speaker 14: they'll still be able to probably win most it's not
Speaker 14: all their home games, and then you know, if they
Speaker 14: can pick a few off on the road. You know,
Speaker 14: I was calculating it today. I mean, you figure six
Speaker 14: and five. If they win these two games, and then
Speaker 14: say they go twelve and eight in the Big Twelve
Speaker 14: and then win a game or two in the Big
Speaker 14: twelve Tournament, they're eighteen nineteen wins something like that, maybe twenty.
Speaker 14: That's probably the schedule they played, that's probably yeah. But
Speaker 14: considering the schedule they played, that's probably good enough to
Speaker 14: get them in. But it's going to be that be close.
Speaker 14: Obviously they would feel if they went fourteen to six
Speaker 14: or even thirteen to seven, that would be a lot
Speaker 14: more less to worry about. But there's there's opportunities for
Speaker 14: him there, and I think I think this team does
Speaker 14: have the chance to figure it out and then they
Speaker 14: get in there. But you know, then again, just slip
Speaker 14: in the tournament as a bubble team, and you know,
Speaker 14: a lot of times it's not gonna last very long.
Speaker 14: But at least they would they would get in.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: For the first time I think in Tommy Lloyd's career
Speaker 5: here at Arizona, the Big Twelve Tournament, which used to
Speaker 5: be the Pac twelve Tournament for Arizona, but the non
Speaker 5: the conference tournament is massive this season for them. If
Speaker 5: you're able to collect wins at the end of the year,
Speaker 5: I've said some things, maybe make it to the semi
Speaker 5: finals final game, you feel a lot more comfortable.
Speaker 14: Yeah. Well, And the weird thing is it's one of
Speaker 14: these three tier deals where the top I believe it's
Speaker 14: the top four teams get two buys, the second four
Speaker 14: get one by and then the bottom eight get no buys.
Speaker 14: And they're playing on that Tuesday. And you know, obviously
Speaker 14: you wouldn't want to play on that Tuesday or even
Speaker 14: the Wednesday, but maybe in Arizona's case, they might want
Speaker 14: to play on Wednesday because maybe about the winnable game
Speaker 14: that's helped the resume. And then they get on a
Speaker 14: Thursday and play you know, Baylor or whoever is one
Speaker 14: of the three four top seeds, and you know if
Speaker 14: they certainly, if they won that game, it wouldn't even
Speaker 14: matter if they made it to the final or won,
Speaker 14: and they would have some quality wins there. So it'll
Speaker 14: be interesting to see because it could play out a
Speaker 14: number different ways. I mean, right now, you project they'd
Speaker 14: probably be right about one of the last teams to
Speaker 14: maybe get one by as the top eighteen, but they
Speaker 14: might not even do that, and then they'd be playing
Speaker 14: on Tuesday and they'd have to win two or three
Speaker 14: games and that that would be that would be something
Speaker 14: that's offer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, question, there's a lot. Yeah, one last.
Speaker 2: Question before we go, Brush I asked, I asked, and
Speaker 2: tell me about this, and I've gotten a lot of
Speaker 2: the feedback from the guys I've talked on the radio.
Speaker 2: Uh As Caleb love those Arizona goes.
Speaker 4: Do you agree? I disagree.
Speaker 14: Well, that's certainly been the case so far. I mean,
Speaker 14: you know, he had a good game against Davidson. They
Speaker 14: won that easy. He's had pretty good games most of
Speaker 14: the times and the other times they've won, they should
Speaker 14: have enough to win without them, but they, you know,
Speaker 14: they haven't shown it. They don't have that reliable inside
Speaker 14: out thing, you know, and another way to win. And
Speaker 14: I think, you know, losing previous is a big, a
Speaker 14: big thing there. It's going to be probably even more
Speaker 14: the case where they they really need more from him,
Speaker 14: you know, you know, and you know, maybe you know,
Speaker 14: I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't have said at
Speaker 14: the beginning of the year but it's just looking like that,
Speaker 14: just looks like this team doesn't have you know, a
Speaker 14: whole lot of you know, a lot of go to
Speaker 14: offense to turn two. So he could be that guy.
Speaker 14: And I think we saw that last year too as well.
Speaker 14: I mean he kind of you know, struggled towards the
Speaker 14: end of the season and that's when they lost. He
Speaker 14: actually had kind of a rough game I think at
Speaker 14: Washington State they lost that game.
Speaker 15: You know, just things like that.
Speaker 14: You know it has been the case, so it's simple
Speaker 14: that they listen truth to it, especially the way this
Speaker 14: team is playing out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Bruce, thanks a bunch, man. We'll see you
Speaker 2: see you Wednesday.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, good talk to you guys.
Speaker 2: I think Bruce Pasco daily start, I so wants to
Speaker 2: get to with this team. And so the good thing
Speaker 2: is we stop talking about football. Love that, let's go
Speaker 2: and take a break. Maybe we get a couple of
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Speaker 2: talk sports A football, you way basketball, A Women's Best
Speaker 2: women's pay tonight. Women play tonight, believe So, I guess
Speaker 2: I can't remember where they played. Yeah, there there's issues
Speaker 2: there too. I mean they got to win more. They're
Speaker 2: not doing well. Probably less talented than he've been in
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 5: Less talented losses against Green Canyon and au we were
Speaker 5: stamp we station.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, six o'clock tough man this is if you're
Speaker 2: a you, a fan, a U, a diehard fan, and
Speaker 2: you follow the sports, It's been.
Speaker 4: A tough semester.
Speaker 5: This it's got to be one of the toughest semesters
Speaker 5: in program, well, in athletics history.
Speaker 2: So well that's yeah, well in the last history relative
Speaker 2: to thirty some years in my thirty seven, I'd have
Speaker 2: to say yes, because the key, the lynch pin is Arizona.
Speaker 2: Basketball is always something there's always yeah, and if there was,
Speaker 2: if football was doing that, we've seen worse, right, women's
Speaker 2: basketball we've seen worse. But when you have the cornerstone
Speaker 2: of the programs sucking, yeah, that's it's a bad It's
Speaker 2: a big deal. And in fact camera who said it
Speaker 2: was it erin tourist? What of the basketball now? National guys,
Speaker 2: the biggest disappointment in college basketball in it right now
Speaker 2: is Arizona on them.
Speaker 4: I don't disagree, No by far. You could say you
Speaker 4: kind of little, but no, you know what, Ukon is
Speaker 4: going to be Ukon at the end of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and they're starting to be you kind of you. If
Speaker 4: I had a.
Speaker 5: Picket team to win a national championship, then it's gotten
Speaker 5: off on a bad start.
Speaker 2: I'm picking and I'm feeling very confident. Yeah, right right,
Speaker 2: because they do find a way. Tommy, it's you think
Speaker 2: it's a lineup?
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 2: Well, we already talked about your problems. It's a lot
Speaker 2: of it's a it's a bit to me, it's a
Speaker 2: big stew.
Speaker 4: Of a lot of crap.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of problems. It's a lot of detailed
Speaker 5: problems that have created a massive problem. He tails of,
Speaker 5: you don't have a passor you don't have a true
Speaker 5: point guard. He tails of, you're a little soft around
Speaker 5: the edges.
Speaker 2: And you're well, here you go, because you want to
Speaker 2: ask this question and you can answer the question that
Speaker 2: you want. Troy is is a true point guard. They
Speaker 2: have one, his name is Martinez, but I don't think
Speaker 2: he's the point guard they need.
Speaker 5: He's not a power five, well, power five, group of five,
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it. Now, he's not a
Speaker 5: major college basketball point guard.
Speaker 6: To me.
Speaker 5: He's UA B level San Jose State. He's not an
Speaker 5: Arizonaal because you can't have a guy that's afraid to
Speaker 5: shoot the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh got it, Yeah, let's do it. Hello, you're
Speaker 4: on the Roinine of the ball. Who's this?
Speaker 2: This is Victean Vick, gim me give me your wisdom.
Speaker 15: Well, I can tell you this, Like Bruce said, Oh,
Speaker 15: they lost these guys the NBA and they missed Krebs.
Speaker 4: That's a bunch of Bologney.
Speaker 15: Every team in the nation loses that many players. And
Speaker 15: guess what you lose that many in high school. You
Speaker 15: lose your senior quarterback. You got to get another one
Speaker 15: to compete. And that's why the Micah's and CDOs and
Speaker 15: South Point are what they are because of coaching and
Speaker 15: planning and organization and and and you know, getting those
Speaker 15: guys ahead of time and and that's just like in football. Uh,
Speaker 15: the defense got hurt with injuries, but everybody said, oh,
Speaker 15: they lost Jonah Coleman and they lost Jordan moore Na.
Speaker 15: You had sufficient guide. Maybe you weren't gonna go canon
Speaker 15: one or eight and two, but to go three and
Speaker 15: eight you with a talent you had. And the same
Speaker 15: with Tommy. You brought in guys to replace those guys
Speaker 15: you lost. You were banking on Trey. Either it's a
Speaker 15: bad callon Evel or or the guys just aren't responding
Speaker 15: to you. This year. But don't give me and cream
Speaker 15: as sucks. He was he can't catch a cold last year,
Speaker 15: he can't catch one this year. We talked about it
Speaker 15: last year, Steve and I called that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, what's talking. He's had his opportunities. He hasn't
Speaker 2: lived up to one. And maybe it's maybe injury, but
Speaker 2: that would be.
Speaker 14: And it ain't the foot injury either.
Speaker 15: He's that apple time to get better and shoot that
Speaker 15: girl on the on the girl's basketball team has a
Speaker 15: bad foot injury. She's out there grinding and jumping and
Speaker 15: all that stuff. So I'm not blaming that either.
Speaker 4: That's a bunch of bull.
Speaker 15: That's a bunch of bull. And and and and being
Speaker 15: so weak this game with U c l Ac like
Speaker 15: text you getting the ball taken away like that, that
Speaker 15: was like me playing against my daughters at nine years old.
Speaker 1: Just it was.
Speaker 4: It was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 2: And you and you commented on my story too, given
Speaker 2: the that was pretty critical about him.
Speaker 15: Yes, it was that.
Speaker 4: That's just bad.
Speaker 15: And and I mean, I don't know do you blame
Speaker 15: that on coaching, because, like I said, Bruce is full
Speaker 15: of it. Every team loses that many players. Georgia football
Speaker 15: loses players, Alabama football player, Ohio State. Everybody, it's a
Speaker 15: new Norman And that was from coming from Troy.
Speaker 2: The new norm was let me ask you real quick,
Speaker 2: are they gonna make the player make the tournament?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 15: No, they aren't there. I'm watching Hallmark Christmas movies and
Speaker 15: guess what that magic can't rubbing off?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Well if they get an N I T and right
Speaker 2: thing going, No, you don't do that. No here, no here,
Speaker 2: Like we saw the show they went in there and
Speaker 2: book bounced in the first round.
Speaker 4: Is it book now? Yeah?
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, real quick. I want you guys. Are gonna
Speaker 15: be over there Thursday.
Speaker 4: Yes, we'll be at the casino on Thursday.
Speaker 15: Okay, drop by it to wish you guys a merry
Speaker 15: Christmas before I hit out back.
Speaker 2: Galleis okay, great, great, we'll see you then, thank you, thanks.
Speaker 16: For the call.
Speaker 15: Okay, you take care of your car.
Speaker 2: Vic Victor, you can't argue with him, and you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't say, well, soften it up, and well you can't.
Speaker 2: They've never Tommy has never been in the situation. No,
Speaker 2: some guy sending me a note last week. So if
Speaker 2: you've never been in the situation, how are you gonna
Speaker 2: get out of this? Well, you have no choice but
Speaker 2: to get out of this.
Speaker 14: We got another call the guys America Christmas. Before I
Speaker 14: hit out back, jalais.
Speaker 4: Hello, you're on the air the Hey, how you doing good?
Speaker 4: Who is this Howard?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Here's the show.
Speaker 16: I'm gonna say it's Howard from now on because because
Speaker 16: Nico and Gabe do not need to say who they are,
Speaker 16: because you and I steve the first syllables out of
Speaker 16: their name, especially Nico, we know who it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his voice, and I'm.
Speaker 16: Gonna just I'm gonna comment and vict I agree with
Speaker 16: him one hundred percent. I mean, I can't disagree with
Speaker 16: anything he said about the basketball team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard to what you see is
Speaker 2: what are you getting? I mean, I asked the guys here,
Speaker 2: give me a positive. You have a positive?
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, I do have one, but I'm on your bandwagon.
Speaker 16: I do like Henry, but because his name starts with
Speaker 16: the nation. Now I'm kidding, Henry is pretty good. But
Speaker 16: if Henry's leading your team in points at halftime, you're
Speaker 16: in trouble. And they were. He had six points, everyone
Speaker 16: else had four.
Speaker 5: So I know a little bit to that though. So
Speaker 5: if Henry is pretty good, if that is the good
Speaker 5: of the season, pretty good going three of eight and
Speaker 5: one of four from the three point line and four turnovers,
Speaker 5: that's not good.
Speaker 16: No, I'm saying, but at halftime, if he's your leading school,
Speaker 16: or at halftime it was six points, that's a problem.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that that's your one positive. That's a
Speaker 5: problem too on the season.
Speaker 16: Right, No, I know, same thing, But I just I'm
Speaker 16: I've pushed the panic button, but I still think they can.
Speaker 16: You know, they're just gonna have to be red gangbusters
Speaker 16: in in the Big twelve. They just just no room.
Speaker 4: What gives you? What gives you hope that what you've
Speaker 4: seen that they'll do that?
Speaker 16: You know they're softer on the edges. You guys said that,
Speaker 16: that's that's true everything you said, And I haven't seen
Speaker 16: any hope. But who knows, Maybe tom Tommy's got some
Speaker 16: kind of magic secret sauce.
Speaker 4: Who knows.
Speaker 16: Well the he goes, he'll say, we can't do any worse.
Speaker 4: Guys, Right, No, No, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: Well, Howard's bock bottom, thanks a bunch man. We'll say
Speaker 2: you're going down to.
Speaker 16: I don't know. We'll we'll see what happens. Okay, thanks
Speaker 16: for now, I know and at least.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. Yeah, the positivity here is not good.
Speaker 5: You hear that term at the end of it though,
Speaker 5: rock Bottom and a lot of programs like, I know,
Speaker 5: it's not it's not a great year of Arizona. But
Speaker 5: you have the talent, yea do something. A lot of
Speaker 5: programs would still like to be in Arizona situation.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course. But the thing is, uh, you're
Speaker 2: not used to expectations. Arizona's fans are not used to this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: rock Bottom is relative right, Uh what if they don't
Speaker 2: have the talent? What if what if we just think
Speaker 2: they do because it's at Arizona.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be what if the talent at the front
Speaker 5: court with and revs are even a walk up?
Speaker 2: Just this isn't very good. Yeah, and you're going the
Speaker 2: Big twelve, there's big They're gonna show you that you're
Speaker 2: not any good. You're not any good.
Speaker 4: Cres.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna go as bad as as
Speaker 2: Vic said with Crevas and that he sucks. He still
Speaker 2: needs a lot of work to get done and foot
Speaker 2: injury aside blah blah blah because he was having a
Speaker 2: hard time catching the ball.
Speaker 4: He was at Stokes like, yeah, yeah, you know then those.
Speaker 2: Right, the same situation in the newer version of that
Speaker 2: Stokes yeat of catch the ball going deep and ballo
Speaker 2: would have not have helped this situation.
Speaker 4: No, because he had his own issues.
Speaker 5: So out of the twenty two turnoers that they had
Speaker 5: on the roster yesterday, eleven of them came from uh
Speaker 5: I Waka.
Speaker 4: Townsend and Henry Basar. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And there were a couple of times when the shore
Speaker 2: guys with the balls were taken away from them just
Speaker 2: on the front court, at the back court.
Speaker 5: It's just slapping us, slapping us all around and the
Speaker 5: carelessness of the basketball as you see how Henry stood like.
Speaker 5: And that's my point of what I'm just trying to
Speaker 5: make they start. Had a good game. He had nine
Speaker 5: months three of eight shooting, but he turned the ball
Speaker 5: over four times and there was three turnovers where he
Speaker 5: just bounced it off his foot out.
Speaker 2: Of bounce, and then he took some meal advice shots.
Speaker 2: That isn't good basketball. No, No, that's not a good performance.
Speaker 2: No those the people say if those shots go in
Speaker 2: it's it's over.
Speaker 4: The thing is that you don't want you don't want
Speaker 4: them tak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want them taking nothing that not in
Speaker 2: time and circumstance. Exactly time and circumstances. Yeah, okay, we
Speaker 2: gotta go. Thanks one for paying attention to what time
Speaker 2: we gotta go. Hey, good show today, Thanks One, and
Speaker 2: you Troy. Whatever your day, we'll get it right event
Speaker 2: Thanks guys. We'll see guys tomorrow.