WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:03.799 This is I on the Ball with Steve Ravera on 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:07.919 Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on 3 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:11.320 the iHeartRadio while just search Eye on the Ball. 4 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:15.480 Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on 5 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:18.800 Fox Sports fourteen. Cookie. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Andy Lopez. 6 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:21.120 Thanks for joining me. You didn't know that was Kim Lena. 7 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:24.559 No doctor Liman. If you're still listening, forgive me, man, 8 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:26.199 I missed talking to you. I love it when he 9 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.519 come in my office and no matter what was going 10 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:30.760 on in my life, he'd cheer me up and we'd laugh, 11 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:32.960 and he'd tell me these great stories about Buffalo, New 12 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:36.000 York and yeah his time here at THEUVE, and yeah 13 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:36.679 he's a great man. 14 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:37.439 Great you're you. 15 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:39.240 Guys are all a psychogy in your world. You have 16 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.359 to be a psychologist if you're If you're a coach 17 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:43.840 and you're not one, you're not a good one. 18 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:45.799 Hey, I caught a break. I married a girl that 19 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:50.399 was a three point eight student from UCLA who majored 20 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:54.280 Ready Steve in psychologist. Nice boy. I can't tell how 21 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.560 many times I'd come home say Linda, Okay, explain to 22 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.079 me why this guy does this? When I do that 23 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.359 of what's going on or da, and she would give 24 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.079 me some insight, right, No, she really need to help. 25 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:07.359 Yeah, so we're talking about that, we're talking about psychology 26 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:09.879 of the sport. I love psychology of the sport because 27 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.879 you could tell a cerebral guy and he's already thinking 28 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:16.599 about how can I beat this guy? Angles or situations, 29 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:17.519 time and circumstance. 30 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:18.120 Yeadha yea da. 31 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:19.959 And that's kind of how I was because I wasn't 32 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:21.280 gonna beat you with the home run. I was gonna 33 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:24.359 get on base steel third, you know, second, So you 34 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:25.680 give me the one, two three, now? 35 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:28.840 Oh yeah, when we recruited, I developed this at cal 36 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:32.359 State Demingons Hills for this reason. At kel State Demingons Hills, 37 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:34.239 we were it was my first college coach. We were 38 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:37.439 a Division two program. Everybody had eighteen scholarships. We had 39 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:40.760 one point three. I had no money for assistant coaches, 40 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:43.000 not one penny. So I was really kind of having 41 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:47.159 to do it all night. It was a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, 42 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.840 in fact, deeper in the alphabet with a Z. It 43 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.359 was a horrible job, but it was the greatest. What's 44 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:54.000 your first job? 45 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:54.239 Oh? 46 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:56.200 It was the greatest six years I spent in my life. 47 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:58.879 It was the greatest six years I spent professionally because 48 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.760 it really showed me how to coach, how to teach, 49 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:06.319 how to be demanding yet be fair and it is yes, 50 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:10.639 and how to recruit ready for this, the athlete that's 51 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.759 gonna work for Andy Lopez. Yes, okay, because there's a 52 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.960 certain athlete that is not going to work for me, 53 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.039 and I'm not going to work for him. And there's 54 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:19.680 a certain athlete that he's going to work for me, 55 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:21.919 And man, I'm gonna work for you. 56 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.439 So you had to have already learned this before you 57 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:25.000 got there. 58 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.479 No, I thought I did, And then I got to 59 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:29.879 the realization we're getting We got killed our first two years. 60 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.199 I mean, we got annihilated because I was recruiting guys 61 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:34.439 that I was just trying to give you the players, 62 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.560 good players. But some of these good players again, the 63 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:40.840 Minga's Hills. It's hard to explain. I mean, we had 64 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:42.879 to I think I share this one time on the 65 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.080 show with you, Steve. But I had to carry my 66 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.719 equipment in the back of my car after every practice 67 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.199 because the Bloods and the Crips. The two games down. 68 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:54.039 There were in Carson Compton, California. They would steal our equipment. Okay, 69 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:58.479 and you had to be tough mentally to survive at 70 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.159 Dominga's Hills, you had to be tough. We had no 71 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.120 locker room. You dressed in the dugout where you dressed 72 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:08.680 out of your trunk. We had no locker room. It 73 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.360 was just it was a tough environment. We came to 74 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:14.199 the University of Arizona when one year we drove down, 75 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.520 God blessed coach Kendel. He played us every year. We 76 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.479 didn't have any buses, didn't any vans, drove your own cars. 77 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:24.919 Right we came down. Didn't have hats. Everybody's wearing different 78 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:27.280 hats because our hats didn't come in. What division were you? 79 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:28.960 Division two? Division two? 80 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:29.159 Yeah? 81 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:31.039 It was unbelievable, believe So my first two years I 82 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:33.599 got brains beat up and because I and I hit me. 83 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.000 I said, what's going on? Because I'm recruiting good players, 84 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:39.599 but they were mentally weak. So they were good, but 85 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:43.520 the environment just wore them out, just wore them down. 86 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:48.479 Nobody comes the games. There's no assistant coaches, the head 87 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:51.560 coaches dragging the field before practice, after every before everyone. 88 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:53.400 You know, it was like, this is a tough environment. 89 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:56.840 It's a really tough environment, and there's no scholarships. So 90 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.520 then it hit me, you know what, Okay, I gotta 91 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:03.159 get some ones. My wife Linda could tell you who 92 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.280 a one is if you took her to a baseball 93 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.360 game today. She go, Wow, that guy is six foot 94 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.240 three and he runs really fast, and every boy he 95 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:14.199 hits goes into the sky for a long time. So 96 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:18.759 ones are that's a superstar, superstar. Okay, yeah, you gotta 97 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:20.720 get a couple. You got to get a couple. Even 98 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:22.360 at Domingus Hills. You got to get a guy that's 99 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:24.720 one that maybe the other schools are passing by because 100 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.560 it's Los Angeles. There's so many people up there, they 101 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:29.399 just kind of pass them by. And I had a 102 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:31.439 left handed pitcher named Jim Payne. You pitched nine years 103 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.759 in the big leagues. I got Jimmy. Yeah, nobody wont 104 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:36.959 He wasn't very big at the time. Then he grew 105 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.600 up a little bit, right, Okay. Another guy, Craig gray 106 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.160 Back played fourteen years the big leagues, little guy, little 107 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.800 short stop. Nobody wanted. He's a little guy. Oh played 108 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.000 four he was Ozzie Gian's backup for fourteen years. 109 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:48.120 With the White Sox. I don't know how you pull 110 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:49.800 these names out of oh Man. 111 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:51.439 I stay in touch with these guys, they run, they 112 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:53.399 send notes to me and all the rest. Okay, So 113 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.240 the ones, you gotta get some ones, and you gotta 114 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:01.680 make sure you stay away from twos. The category is one, two, three, 115 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:06.040 very simple ones. You gotta get very talented, very talented, 116 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:12.279 very talented. Twos. They think they're ones. They're not as talented, 117 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.279 but they think they are Marsha and Marshall Marsha. They 118 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:16.160 become headaches. 119 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:18.120 Yes, I Kenvi believe would have been perfect for this 120 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:19.839 because it's the second board, right. 121 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.560 You got to go get ones and you got to 122 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:28.360 live off your threes. The threes know their threes, but 123 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:32.279 they're willing to work like crazy to become a one. 124 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.759 So your programs are built on ones and threes and 125 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:38.000 still away from twos. 126 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:40.600 So okay, but you're not always going to do that. 127 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:45.560 The twos. Are they cancerous? Yes, because they think they're ones. 128 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.279 They want to be treated like a one. They want 129 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:49.120 to know why they're not pitching on Friday Night. Well, 130 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:51.120 you're not good enough to pitch on Friday night. But 131 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:52.639 I am good enough to pitch on Friday. No, you 132 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.199 look at your numbers, So what do you do with 133 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:56.600 the twos? Because you know you're going to have some 134 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.279 two and they eventually leave to become one. So mohere 135 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.680 else to try to become one somewhere else. But they're 136 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.439 two's well, so you're hoping to get ones in threes. 137 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:08.480 But it's almost I'm thinking you, it's almost impossible not 138 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:09.199 to get a tour. 139 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:11.759 Oh yeah, no, no, right, every year you get too, Yeah, 140 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.079 every y're good and that's when your story. You got 141 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:19.439 time for a real twenty twelve. I don't know we're 142 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.279 gonna win a Nastra Tambishire, but I know we're pretty good. 143 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:22.959 We've been in regionals the past two years and we've 144 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:25.319 been really close and this and that. Okay, so I've 145 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:29.920 got at. I recruit a freshman player from southern California 146 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.079 and he comes into the twenty twelve program. Great makeup 147 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:37.360 on that team, ricker Ryker, Ricord, Johnny Fields, ref sneyder 148 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:43.839 Mahea seth maheis, Breen, just great maker, sure, fantastic Occurt Higher, 149 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.240 Connor Wade. Great makeup plus plus plus plus makeup a 150 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:52.040 bunch of threes that become ones. Okay, okay, okay. So 151 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.720 I bring this kid in and he's a two. He 152 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.240 thinks he's a one, but he's getting beat out in 153 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.319 the fall and his position by a guy that's not 154 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.399 even on scholarship. All you know is what you see, right, 155 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:06.680 So you at the end of the practice, you go, hey, 156 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.360 that guy we're there, he's playing better than that guy. 157 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.720 So this guy we here, a three, is playing over 158 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:14.680 this guy who we think is a good player, and 159 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:16.800 we recruit him. He's on money and he thinks he's 160 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.920 a one, but he's a two, and he's getting beat 161 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:21.240 out by a guy this night, even on scholarship. So 162 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:23.199 towards the end of the fall, we have meetings every 163 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.800 day with my staff nine o'clock. Everywhere we meet, we meet, 164 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:27.279 we meet, and we go through the roster. We go 165 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:31.199 through the roster, and halfway through the fall I recruit him. 166 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:33.720 I say to my staff, you know what, this guy's 167 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:36.439 not a good fit here because he's driving guy's nut sure, 168 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:38.560 because he's walking around like short one. He's walking around 169 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:42.319 like he's the guy, but he's not. And the players know, Hey, dude, relax, 170 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.839 You're not the guy. You're getting beat out by this guy. 171 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:48.240 Just be humble and try to get better. Come early, 172 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:51.160 stay late, work on your game. So I tell my staff, 173 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:52.560 you know, I'm probably gonna have to set him. I'm 174 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:54.759 we're gonna have to tell him there's a better place 175 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.319 from somewhere else and won't help him, which we did 176 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.920 all the time. I don't want to do it. I 177 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:02.240 don't want to do it because I just he was 178 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:04.879 my recruit. Oh my god, I don't want to do it. 179 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:06.480 I'm going to get a phone call from his mom 180 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.319 and dad and his high school coach. I don't want 181 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:10.079 to do it. Maybe he's going to change. Maybe he's 182 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.319 going to change. Maybe he's gonna humble himself and become 183 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.920 a three usually be one. Did you talk to him 184 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.319 and yet, Well, we talked a couple of times. But again, Steve, remember, 185 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.279 he thinks he's the one, no matter what talk. 186 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:23.160 He thinks he's a one, no matter what talk. 187 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:25.759 Yeah, he thinks he's a one. Okay, true story. I 188 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:27.839 used to jog every day. I go for a run 189 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.319 every day. This day was kind of cold at the fall. 190 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:31.959 Here at the end of the fall. Uh, you know, 191 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:34.360 it's getting close to November. So I'm in the clubhouse 192 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:38.159 on the treadmill and this young guy comes in. His 193 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:40.480 name is Jim, that's not his name. He comes in 194 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:42.039 and I'm on the trip money. He says, Hey, Lopes, 195 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:43.679 can I talk to you? It's the end of the fall. 196 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:45.519 Hey Lips, can I talk to you? And I said, yeah, 197 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:47.200 what's up? He says, well, I need to talk to you, 198 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:49.080 So can you let me finish my run? I'll be 199 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:51.360 done in twenty minutes. Yeah, okay. So I finished my run. 200 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:52.480 I'm thinking, Casha, what the hexts? 201 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:52.600 You know? 202 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.799 I want to you know, I'm working through my long story. 203 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:56.159 So I sit down with him. I said what's up? 204 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.840 And he goes, hey, I'm transferring. I said, you're transferring? 205 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.879 What's going on? He said, well I got cut? So 206 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:04.440 what you got cut? Who cut? 207 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:04.600 You? 208 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:09.960 Are here for this? Mahia. Mahia came to my dorm 209 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:12.320 room earlier this morning and said, you know what, you're 210 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.559 not fitting in here. You're selfish and you're not fitting 211 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.519 in here. You need to go to another program. Wow, 212 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:20.039 Alex Mahia cut him. 213 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:24.600 So the one that's not that's not How can I 214 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.039 say this so what happened. I mean, that's not possible. 215 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:29.080 I mean it happened. 216 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.080 He went, he went to another program, So you did 217 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.600 he did your dirty works. 218 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:38.159 That's love. 219 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:40.720 But that just shows you. He his makeup was off 220 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:43.360 the charge. So he Hea was a three not recruited 221 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:44.159 by a lot of people. 222 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:46.679 Without telling you that he's what he's going to do, 223 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:47.960 he just kind of took charge. 224 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:50.480 And him said, see, I had a rule. I didn't 225 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.440 make captains. I said, you're all captains. All of you 226 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:57.759 act like captains and be captains. Act like captains, and 227 00:09:57.799 --> 00:09:59.639 then if we have a great year at the end 228 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:01.879 of the later on in life, you can put down 229 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:04.720 in your resume. I was the captain of the twenty 230 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.519 twelve Pack twelve championship team. I was a captain of 231 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.240 the Western Regional team. I was a captain of the 232 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:12.159 Super Region team. I was the captain of the twenty 233 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:16.080 twelve National Championship baseball team. And you know what, when 234 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:18.679 that business person calls me and says, was Joe Smith 235 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:21.080 a captain? I said, yes, it was, yeah, he was. 236 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:24.919 It was so alex Mehea said, hey, you're selfish, you 237 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.240 don't fit in. You know, you pop off the guys 238 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:28.840 and they're trying to help you, and no, Da, you're 239 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:30.360 just not a good fit here. 240 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:34.039 You you should go somewhere else. What happened to that guy? 241 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:39.600 He went to another program and didn't pan out. No wow, yeah, wow, 242 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:42.399 what a good story. Yeah he was a three yeah 243 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:44.200 and turned into one. Well, you probably had a lot 244 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.440 of threes on that team. I was my whole philosophy. 245 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.559 Get someone's go get the Kurt Hires, Go get the 246 00:10:49.639 --> 00:10:53.279 Robert Refssires. Those guys are superstars, right, but man, go 247 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.279 get Joey Rickords, go get Johnny Fils, Go get Alex 248 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.759 Mahea's go get Seth maheis Breen, Go get those guys. 249 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:01.320 We'll get those guys. No, it's funny. 250 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.399 I'm trying to the ninety seventeen that was darn good 251 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:06.879 at won a title in basketball, right, A lot of threes, 252 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.720 a lot of threes. I know you had a couple 253 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.679 of twos, uh, but you had guys who just were workhorses, 254 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:14.679 knew the roles. 255 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:16.159 And that's part of the little story. 256 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:16.320 Right. 257 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:18.200 You should write book about the one two threes. But 258 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.639 it's know your role right and and perform your role 259 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.080 and don't interrupt anybody else's role. 260 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.120 Here's the two for you. The two. The two gets 261 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:28.679 a little bit of a twitch and a hamstring. 262 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:29.360 Yeah. 263 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:34.480 One's man injury is another man's pain. Yeah. One guy 264 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.600 says I'm injured. That's a two. 265 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:37.559 Yeah. 266 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:39.519 The three says, yeah, I got a little bit of pain, 267 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.039 but i'll play tonight. I'll play. Yeah, Okay. The one 268 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:47.879 Mahea breaks a bone in his right hand two days 269 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:51.919 before we opened the twenty twelve season. Anybody looked back. 270 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.320 We opened against We opened up against Sodd Brown, a 271 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.000 former Wildcat who's by in fact, my son's boss, New Mexico. 272 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:02.639 But here plays that night. Hits left handed and he's 273 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:05.519 not a left handed No, because it hurt his right hand. 274 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:08.679 So he hit left handed? No, the question you need 275 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:13.080 to ask me, Stevens. So he was a twitch hitter. No, No, 276 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:17.159 he wasn't. But he was a three. Yeah, he was 277 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.440 just a beast. I'm going to get in the lineup. 278 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:22.080 I'll hit left handed. Have you ever hit left handed? No? 279 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:23.639 But I'm a three. 280 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:26.279 So how many of the kids that you've had. We've 281 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.679 talked about this already, kind of you've had a lot 282 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:29.159 of threes. 283 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.120 We tried to pride ourselves on finding threes. We would 284 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.240 call opposing coaches and say, hey, what do you think 285 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.200 about We'd ask about their guys, and we say, hey, 286 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:38.919 what do you think about that kid on the other 287 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.639 team in your league? And when you played them, what 288 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.360 do you got on him? And if he said, ah, 289 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.840 he's a show mode or he's this okay, all right, good, 290 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:47.879 thanks a lot. I appreciate it. And then but if 291 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:49.440 he said, oh man, he's tough. I wish he were 292 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:53.279 in my program. Okay, let's call another coach. Let's call 293 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:55.799 his counselor now, and then we would call his high 294 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.559 school coach, and then we would bring him on campus 295 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:00.879 and I tell you, Steve, and then we would watch, 296 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.480 and we always begged him, please bring your mother and father. 297 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.000 Please bring your mother and father. Please. Moms always ask 298 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.399 the questions that need to be asked, but the dad 299 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.759 won't ask it. And the kid's got no no way 300 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.399 he's gonna ask you. What are those questions? Are there 301 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.360 gonna be sheets in the dorms? Does he get hot meals? 302 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:21.399 Do they do his laundry? Does you know? Dad don't 303 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:23.480 want to ask that, and the kid don't want ask that. Sure, 304 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:27.600 watch the body language on the kid. When the mom 305 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:32.399 asked that question, the two's gonna roll his eyes and squirm. 306 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:37.519 Oh my god. The three is very polite, listens, and 307 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:39.960 then at the end of the meeting usually gives his 308 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:43.159 mom a little hug or something and they laugh about mom, 309 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.200 why did you ask that question? But he but he's respectful. 310 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:49.759 So let me ask you, Linda, right, yes, I'm sure 311 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:51.679 did you? Does she have a part in this one 312 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.960 twos threes or you just came up with this because no, 313 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:55.600 well you just came from Dominicus. 314 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:57.679 Yeah. I met Linda my second year. 315 00:13:57.799 --> 00:13:59.679 Okay, so can you apply that to the real world? 316 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:04.720 Me, my, my, Yeah, I've applied it to everything in 317 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:06.480 my life. Yeah, so you. 318 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.559 Can know, you go to whatever a meeting or you know, 319 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:10.840 you're developing team. 320 00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:12.879 And now you sit around at a meeting, you sitting it's 321 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:15.360 the first okay a few When I retired, I was 322 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.200 asked to be a part of a Christian organization here 323 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.399 in town. And uh, and I went to the meeting 324 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:21.840 the big building, the fifty one to fifty one building 325 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:24.440 on Broadways, big toll Yeah, top of the building. So 326 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:25.840 I show up. You know, I got nothing to do 327 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:29.120 with that I sit there and because I mean, you know, 328 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.720 that's really the fallacy of you know, Christians, they're perfect. 329 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:35.279 Now I've got so many flaws it's scary, you know. 330 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:38.320 I mean, come on, I'm far from perfect. But anyway, 331 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:41.200 but I'm sitting there and I'm going, whoa, there's a one. 332 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:43.480 I mean, you can just tell me. Yeah, you know, 333 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.080 he knew scriptures. He was very humble. He was there, 334 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.000 that's a superstar over there. That's a superstar. And there's 335 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.120 a guy over there that wants to be a superstar, 336 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:52.440 but he's very humble. 337 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:55.320 The three or the two. There's three, the three and 338 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:55.960 the two. 339 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:58.799 And the guy sitting right next to me, Steve Rivera 340 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:03.000 was a bond of five to got all the answers, 341 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:05.440 but really don't have them run Oh yeah, thinks he 342 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:06.559 got all the answers everything. 343 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:09.039 It's like, as they saying, Cowboy, were a lot of 344 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:09.759 hat no cattle. 345 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:13.120 Okay, yeah, so yeah, there everywhere, I think, there everywhere. 346 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:14.799 Let's go with that's great stuff. We gotta go. 347 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:18.360 We're gonna talk to Matt Reynoldson here from Phoenix, I believe. 348 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:20.919 So we'll come back here in about three four minutes. 349 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:27.279 Now, your chance to win one thousand dollars. 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