WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:04.080 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, The 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:10.119 house Whisper on Demand on the iHeart Radio app. I 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:13.720 am Dean Sharp, the house Whisper, custom home Builder, custom 4 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:17.160 home designer, and your guide to turning your ordinary house 5 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:21.920 into an extraordinary home. Whether you are listening to us 6 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.359 on the local broadcast right here in southern California, or 7 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:29.839 streaming us digitally from wherever across the globe here or 8 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.759 anywhere else, or if you joined in for another episode 9 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:36.159 of the House Whisper on demand podcast, I am just 10 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:39.719 so very glad that you are here. We are doing 11 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:43.719 an all calls weekend and nothing but your calls today, 12 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:45.240 and I want to get back to the phone so 13 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:48.759 we can get as many calls in as possible. Lydia, 14 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:51.640 welcome home, Good. 15 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:55.399 Morning, Dean. I have a question that's been posting a 16 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:58.320 few times to you, or you've explained it, but I'm 17 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:04.359 not sure if my problem applies or I have a 18 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:08.719 problem where we did a remodel box and extension about 19 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:12.120 in twenty two, so it's been a couple of years. 20 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:17.200 Immediately the shower, I thought the water went like hot 21 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:17.719 and cold. 22 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.480 Now we did go from a regular. 23 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:25.319 Tank heater to a tank less and this is a 24 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:27.840 direct vent tankless waters heater. 25 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:28.280 I don't know. 26 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:34.560 I don't know what information you need, but anyhow, it 27 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:37.239 goes from hot to cold. I mean, it takes a 28 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.840 long time compared to what it used to to get 29 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:44.640 hot in my opinion, and then it goes where it 30 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:52.040 begins to get warm and then excuse me, and then 31 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.439 it goes cold again. And I have waited like fifteen 32 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.239 seconds in the middle of a shower for it to 33 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:00.000 get hot again. 34 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.000 So, okay, I know. 35 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:08.000 You mentioned like a recirculation pump and a bridge. 36 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:11.560 But there's actually two things we're We're actually talking about 37 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.759 two different things there. Okay, So okay, first let's talk 38 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:21.199 about the the the going cold on you situation. Okay, 39 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.599 the going cold on your situation. Are you aware that 40 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.759 of any other water being run when it does it 41 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:33.680 always do this, no matter no matter whether it's the 42 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:36.240 old water that's running in the house, or does it 43 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.199 go cold on you because somebody else turns a faucet 44 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:41.479 on somewhere else or something like that. 45 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:42.800 No, absolutely not. 46 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.840 I'm home. My husband's a fireman, so he's often you know, 47 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:49.879 away from home, and so I can be home alone. 48 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.439 I'm not running anything, so I mean I've looked. 49 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:55.919 At that, you know, but no, absolutely not. 50 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:03.120 That was the whole important answer to the question. Okay, 51 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:06.280 so I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to 52 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:09.199 tell you that you need to have somebody look at 53 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:12.879 that water heater, okay, because a water heater should be 54 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.919 a tankless water heater should be putting outputting a consistent 55 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:19.280 temperature all the way through. It should not be dipping. 56 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.280 There may be something wrong with a setting. There may 57 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:25.479 be a problem with a thermo coupler or a thermostat 58 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:28.479 inside the water heater. There may be an issue with 59 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.800 gas supplied to the water heater. I literally it could 60 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.560 be you know, one of ten different things or a 61 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.560 couple of different things. And I know it's only a 62 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.800 couple of years old, but you said you were having 63 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.840 the issue right from the get go. So it is 64 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:44.639 time to have somebody take a serious look at the 65 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.560 water heater because that is not normal and that's not 66 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.960 related to the house. Quite often, the reason I asked 67 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:52.919 the question is that quite often, when it comes to 68 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:58.120 tankless water heaters, a homeowner will pick one out for themselves, 69 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:02.639 or a plumber will pick one out or plumbers usually 70 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:04.840 don't make this mistake, but they'll pick one out that 71 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:10.479 is undersized for the home. Undersized meaning that you know, 72 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.560 the idea of picking a tankless water heater is all 73 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.879 about how many hot water things do you want running 74 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:21.480 all at the same time, and that therefore you get 75 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.360 a water heater that's capable of that kind of an output, 76 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.399 so that if you're taking a hot shower and then 77 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:31.600 somebody starts doing the dishes, running the dishwasher, and the laundry, 78 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.879 that that water heater has got enough hot running through 79 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:37.040 it that it can supply to all of them without 80 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:42.120 the temperature dropping. Typically, when a tankless water heater is 81 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.879 dropping in temperature right in the middle of something, it's 82 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:49.560 because another faucet has been turned on, and therefore now 83 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:53.519 it's having to share its hot water load with another fixture, 84 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.959 and the water heater isn't big enough sized enough for 85 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.079 volume to be able to handle. It's problem with the 86 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:03.920 selection of the water heater. But in your case, no 87 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:06.839 other hot water is running anywhere else in the house 88 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:10.399 and it's still losing temperature. That's a problem with the 89 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:13.959 water heater itself. Now, very quickly, let me answer your 90 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:17.759 other question and the question of because it's a completely 91 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:23.160 separate issue. Tankless water heaters are endless hot water. They 92 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:27.439 are not instant hot water because the hot water still 93 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.959 has to travel the distance from the water heater to 94 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:34.319 get to the faucet that you know, or the shower 95 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:39.000 head that is being used. And so yeah, there are 96 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:43.920 ways of getting around that recirculation pump bridge valve underneath 97 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.600 the furthest sink away from the water heater in the house. 98 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.879 But just so people know, and it is true to 99 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:53.199 a certain degree, some old schoolers are like, I'm not 100 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:56.959 going for that tankless thing because my old tanked water 101 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:02.040 heater delivered hot water faster. Well, technically, it doesn't deliver 102 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.000 hot water faster. The water moves at the same speed 103 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.639 from the water heater to the fawcet. But a tanked 104 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:12.720 water heater is sitting there heating water all day long. 105 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:17.079 So therefore that heat travels a little bit further down 106 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:21.639 the pipe because it's constantly heating it, whereas a tank 107 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:25.839 less water heater only heats on demand, and because it's 108 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:28.560 not doing any heating of the water, the hot water 109 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.879 in the water lines in between the water heater and 110 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.199 the fawcet have a chance to cool down further, so 111 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:37.240 the water's traveling at the same speed. The hot water 112 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:40.199 is taking just as long to get there, but residual 113 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.519 hot water from a tanked water heater is a little 114 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.519 closer to the faucet. This is absolutely true. But that's 115 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:51.079 something that you can overcome design wise with a recirculation pump, 116 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.360 a research pump at the very very end. They're not 117 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.600 very expensive these days, and they'll help draw that hot 118 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:01.279 water in throughout the rest of the house. That's something 119 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.680 to consider, Lydia, when you're having a plumber look at 120 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:08.399 the situation. But most importantly, what's happening to you with 121 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:12.519 this ducking of water temperature in the middle of a 122 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.319 shower when no other hot water is being used in 123 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.879 the house. That's a problem with the water heater itself, 124 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.560 and somebody needs to take a look at it. Lydia, 125 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:24.399 thank you for your question and your call. Awesome, Awesome. 126 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:26.920 This is why we do this because we just hit 127 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.120 a full gambit across the board. More of your calls 128 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.759 when we return. You are Home with Dean Sharp, the 129 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:35.279 House Whisperer on KFI. 130 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:39.000 You're listening to Home with Dean sharp on demand from 131 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:40.600 KFI AM six forty. 132 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:46.319 Good morning to you, and welcome home. We are doing 133 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:51.079 an all calls weekend. Let's talk to John. Hey, John, 134 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:52.040 welcome home. 135 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.879 I'm calling you from San Diego, and my story is 136 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:57.879 to save the few dollars. 137 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:02.680 I installed my own water heat right, and in so doing, 138 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:06.560 I read the instructions and one of the things that 139 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:13.040 I remembered was the water pressure. They recommend maximum eighty 140 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.959 pounds per square inch pressure in the water lines. Well, 141 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:20.720 I installed the water heater and I had the city 142 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:24.040 come out and test my pressure, and it's up around 143 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.600 eighty six eighty seven. And I'm concerned about that. 144 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:35.799 If what are the average home water systems of piping 145 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:40.039 and everything, How much more than eighty can be tolerated? 146 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:43.039 And what could I do about it to lower that 147 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:44.440 water pressure? 148 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:50.679 Great question, and kudos for reading the instructions, John, Good job, 149 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:51.240 my friend. 150 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:53.399 I learned how to read a long time ago. 151 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:57.759 So okay, first of all, water pressure around eighty five 152 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:01.960 eighty six. You know you don't have an emergency concern 153 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.720 on your hand, okay, because it's just you know, it's 154 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:09.320 just it's just etching over the the you know, the 155 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:14.720 upper limit. However, you are right to address it. You 156 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:18.080 should address everybody should know this. This is why that's 157 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:20.399 why I take calls all right, because not only am 158 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.759 I gonna answered John's question, but it should help everybody 159 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:27.600 who's listening understand a little bit more about their home. So, 160 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.519 residential water pressure should ideally fall in the sixty to 161 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:40.440 eighty psi range. Sixty to eighty, So that's the optimum range. Okay, 162 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.840 below sixty, it's not going to hurt your house, but 163 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.039 you know, everybody's going to be like, what the heck 164 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.320 is wrong with my water? Why is it clogged? Right? So, 165 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.759 we all like nice water pressure in our lines. But 166 00:09:55.279 --> 00:10:00.080 above eighty psi, and here's the key, above eighty ps i, 167 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:04.159 it puts a strain on the fittings in your water system, 168 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:07.960 the fittings of the pipes themselves, and even more important 169 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:12.399 than that, which you know, there are systems that, if 170 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:15.240 they're well built and well put together, could withstand a 171 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.240 heck of a lot more pressure than that. But more 172 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:22.440 important than that, uh is all of your appliances. The 173 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:28.240 interior guts of the washing machine and the dishwasher, and 174 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:32.879 the water based appliance is like your water here. None 175 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:38.120 of them are rated to have more than eighty PSI 176 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:42.120 sitting in the term right, So we just don't want 177 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:43.799 to do that. We don't want to damage. We don't 178 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:45.480 want to you know, I don't want to blow out 179 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:49.840 the ice maker line to the refrigerator or anything like that. So, yeah, 180 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:52.159 we got to get your water pressure down, all right. 181 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:55.559 So I recommend dating for the house just to bring 182 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:57.960 the pressure down. No, there are no such things. But 183 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.720 here's the simple it's a simple things. Okay, every home 184 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:06.159 has a pressure regulator on the main line going into 185 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:10.679 the house. And I would say, well, okay, then then 186 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:14.919 it's time to get yourself one, my friend. UH, A 187 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.480 pressure regulator valve, all right, And it's and it's almost 188 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:23.200 always located right where the main water cutoff valve is, 189 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.480 right before the water lines enter the house. I'm not 190 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:29.240 talking about the meter out in the you know, on 191 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:32.759 the h in the sidewalk out there in the little 192 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:36.480 concrete pit. I'm talking about the irrigation and UH and 193 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:40.759 water control valves, the gate valves right before water enters 194 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:45.120 your home, right then and there, that is where we 195 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:47.360 want a pressure control valve. We don't have to have 196 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:51.840 a pressure regulator uh on the irrigation lines for your home, 197 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:54.480 because they don't hold pressure. They're empty lines. 198 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:54.840 Uh. 199 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:58.840 You know, the sprinkler system is empty until you activate 200 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.360 it and then and then they fill up with water 201 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:03.799 and then they irrigate your house, and then you turn 202 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:06.200 them off and they drain out again. They don't hold 203 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:10.159 pressure twenty four seven three sixty five. But the rest 204 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:14.799 of the pipes inside your house do always standing water 205 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:19.960 there under pressure. So the point being, pressure regulators are 206 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:23.679 not expensive in the long run of all. You know, 207 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:25.480 a lot less expensive than your water. 208 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:25.679 Here. 209 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:28.279 We're talking about two or three hundred dollars at the most. 210 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:32.480 And if you don't if there isn't a union hook 211 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:35.720 up there to detach the existing one, if you don't 212 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.279 actually have one, then you need to get one. You 213 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:41.159 can find them at any plumbing supply place, find them 214 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:44.559 at the big box stores. Make sure they're sized right 215 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:47.159 to your line. And if you don't feel confident, like well, 216 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.600 how am I going to hook this up? Then yeah, 217 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:52.519 you call a plumber and stall. Listen, I need you 218 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:57.200 to install a pressure regulator right here at I would say, 219 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:01.879 and I don't have a scientific this is not a 220 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:07.919 scientific at scientifically accurate statistic. This is just my you know, 221 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:12.600 empirical experience. But I would say probably eighty percent of 222 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.919 the homes of the folks who are listening to me 223 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:20.840 right now have a worn out pressure regulator. They wear out, okay, 224 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.480 over time, uh and so, and that's why. So once 225 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.120 originally it was doing its job holding back the pressure 226 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:33.120 and reducing it, and now it has just given out, 227 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.200 and as a result, we've got too high pressure in 228 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:36.559 the house. 229 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:40.000 So everybody would be the lifespan of a regulator. 230 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:42.919 You know, it's impossible for me to tell you, but 231 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.240 I will tell you this. I haven't seen many that 232 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:48.000 are over twenty twenty five years old that are still 233 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:51.679 doing their job. Okay, Oh, I don't know. You know, 234 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:53.480 I can't tell you that for certain. All I know 235 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:56.080 is that you know, if you suspect that you've got 236 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.799 high pressure, and if you haven't ever checked the water 237 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:02.840 pressure on your house, you should. Most people, by the way, 238 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:06.960 can test this themselves because most homes. Most homes have 239 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:14.639 a wall mounted water spigot somewhere. Okay, now I'm not 240 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:17.159 talking about out in the yard. You can't trust those. 241 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:20.080 If you've got a water spigot and you know, hooked 242 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.759 up to a hose out in the yard somewhere, it's 243 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.200 very likely that that is part of the irrigation system 244 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.759 and not pressure regulator. But if you on the outside 245 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.159 of your house anywhere on the outside of your house, 246 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:35.919 if you've got a just a hose spigot coming out 247 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:38.159 of the stucco or the siding on the house, that 248 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:43.000 is very likely part of the house water line system 249 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:48.000 and it's regulated. And a water pressure test valve, I 250 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:51.440 mean a gauge is like a ten dollars item at 251 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:55.240 the hardware store and it screws onto the end of 252 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.799 the hose bib just like a hose, and then you 253 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:00.799 just turn on the hose bib and you wait to 254 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:03.600 see where the needle goes. And that's how you can 255 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:06.519 pressure test your own water. And everybody can check that 256 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:10.759 out for themselves. So, my friend, it's time for a 257 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:15.840 pressure regulator and bring that out and take that expertly 258 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:20.559 installed water heater of yours and make sure that has 259 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:21.919 a long, healthy life. 260 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.639 I did a good job on it for the first time. 261 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:26.879 And you know, there's another thing. 262 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:30.120 That I learned that I think other people should be 263 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:34.840 aware of. And these water heaters is the anode rod. Yes, 264 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:38.879 I'm thinking to change that every four years. 265 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.559 It is not at all a bad idea, my friend John, 266 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.879 Thank you for your call, My friend, good luck. It's 267 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.759 no big deal. You're going to get your pressure under control. 268 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.639 Bring it down to about seventy PSI once that new 269 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:57.559 regulator is in and happy water, happy house, happy life. 270 00:15:57.600 --> 00:15:58.960 There you go, Thanks John. 271 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.320 Well, you're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand 272 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:05.200 from KFI AM six forty. 273 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:09.399 You're setting the agenda today. The number to reach me 274 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:14.720 eight three three two, ask Dean Joyce, welcome home. 275 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.799 I have a husband who is disabled. He's eighty four. 276 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:21.519 He's house bound. Now I'm the man of the house, 277 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.399 trying to restore the house or keep it healthy. And 278 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.480 I've just gotten rid of skunk and now I have 279 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:32.600 to work on termites. Now. There are two companies, specific 280 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:37.639 Coast Termite that uses natural supplies and termin X that 281 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.519 cannot fumigate because I can't move my husband. He won't 282 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.480 move out of the house, but they will sort of 283 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:50.799 do a chemical. But I'm wondering is one better safer 284 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:51.399 than another? 285 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:55.879 Okay, let me try and parse this out. So here's 286 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:00.320 the thing. When it comes to termites, it can be 287 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:02.960 a confusing world out there. And I don't want to 288 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.680 zero in on any brand or any particular termite you 289 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.319 know provider, Okay, exterminating provider. Okay, I'm just going to 290 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.400 tell you this. Yes, there are companies out there that 291 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:19.000 that make big claims about all natural termite treatments versus 292 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:21.279 you know, and they kind of stake their claim on 293 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.880 the idea that you know, we use non toxic, you know, 294 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.400 all natural stuff, and the other guys, you know, use 295 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:29.720 the nasty stuff and so and it can all be 296 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:34.119 so a couple of things. When it comes to termite control, 297 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:38.880 it is a toolbox. It's a toolbox. There is no zero, 298 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:43.599 no silver bullet out there. I like termite or pest 299 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:48.599 control companies that offer me a variety of choices based 300 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:50.480 on and you know, they've got a lot of tools 301 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:53.880 in their toolbox, based on what actually has to happen. Now. 302 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:58.440 Orange oil. Orange oil is an essential oil. It's extracted 303 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:02.359 from oranges, right, It's got a lot of benefits. You know, 304 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:08.039 the toxicity is low, Okay, it is effective against insects 305 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:12.000 besides termites, carpenter ants and beetles and things like that. Right, 306 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:14.559 you don't have to take out items like plants or 307 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:16.759 pets from the house. Right, you don't have to leave 308 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:21.799 your home. But orange oil, now there's downside. The downside, 309 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:25.079 or I should say the limitations of orange oil is 310 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:28.720 that it's localized. Orange oil is a localized treatment. Okay, 311 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:36.400 it's not going to affect undetected infestations anywhere. It can 312 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:40.279 be expensive the more you treat with orange oil, and 313 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:46.400 it doesn't leave any residue behind to speak of, So 314 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:51.440 it doesn't offer long lasting after the treatment protection for 315 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:55.039 things to prevent things from coming back. Now does that 316 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:58.319 mean it's not useful. No, it has its uses. And 317 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:02.440 if it's just a localize infestation and we feel like 318 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.640 we've got control of it, orange oil would be a 319 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:09.920 great option for that because it's convenient. But this is 320 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:12.240 something actually that happened to while back. I'm reading off 321 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.599 of a website here that after all of these claims 322 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:19.279 for orange oil treatments became so popular, the California Structural 323 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:25.440 Pest Control Board reminded gently pest control companies don't confuse 324 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:30.240 in misinformed customers. Orange oil is yet another localized treatment 325 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.240 tool against the elusive drywood termite. It is not an 326 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:39.079 alternative to all encompassing methods of treatment. That's just to say, 327 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:42.759 it's just one of the tools in an exterminator's tool belt. 328 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:47.160 There are other natural treatments. Some of it goes by 329 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:52.160 the brand name Ultraset, others know it as tree bark treatments. 330 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:56.720 But it's a formulation that is a completely harmless doesn't 331 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.359 leave it any residue, but it actually can provide lasting protection. 332 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.720 It is a version of a substance found in a 333 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:09.000 certain kind of tree bark, the Rhianna speciosa tree bark, 334 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:13.200 and basically termites like it. They eat it and it 335 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:17.079 paralyzes their jaws so that they can't eat, and then 336 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:20.200 the entire colony ends up starving and boom they go 337 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.160 out that way. There are just so and then there's 338 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:25.880 tenting treatments, which would mean that you guys, yeah, have 339 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:27.920 to protect your valuables and move out of the house. 340 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:31.880 And there's also now this is another thought that you 341 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:33.720 might want to take into concern. I'm just trying to 342 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:41.200 broadbrush the whole thing. There are home whole house heat treatments, 343 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:45.000 heat treatments for insect and infestations. Now what that means 344 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.880 is that instead of using a chemical or a fog 345 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.599 to penetrate the walls for the whole house, they're going 346 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:56.119 to ask that you guys be out for the day. 347 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.599 They're going to come in in the morning. They're gonna 348 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:00.839 seal up the house. They're gonna remin move things that 349 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:03.440 can melt at one hundred and thirty degrees or so, 350 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:06.480 protect those things like candles and various things like that. 351 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.119 And then while you're out, just for about eight hours, 352 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.559 while you're out doing something else for that period of 353 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:16.039 time you're not gonna be at renting a hotel room, 354 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:19.720 they will heat treat the house. In other words, they'll 355 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.160 raise the overall temperature of the entire house, including all 356 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.839 the walls and the studs and everything. And that raising 357 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:29.759 of the temperature and holding at that level for a 358 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:33.759 certain period of time will also kill off insects and 359 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.400 termites inside. Now, again it doesn't leave a residue behind, 360 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:43.359 so it doesn't have a future preventative residual effects. But 361 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.240 it's a way of treating the whole house as an 362 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:50.200 alternative to tentting. That doesn't mean that you have to 363 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:53.799 move out for three days. So again, everything has its advantage. 364 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:57.960 Everything has its limitation. It's really a question of finding 365 00:21:58.000 --> 00:21:59.880 and in your case, and here I'm gonna leave you 366 00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:02.640 with this because then I got to hit the road. 367 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.039 Here in your case, joyce the advice I'm gonna give 368 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:10.680 to you for both this situation and every other kind 369 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:15.319 of homeowner DIY situation you find yourself in, the best 370 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.079 thing you can do is to look around, find two 371 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.440 or three or even four, take your time, find four 372 00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:27.559 reputable companies, have them all come out and give you 373 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:31.319 free estimates and diagnosis. That way, you're getting a sense 374 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:35.640 of everything that everyone is offering. And I believe most 375 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:37.680 of the time, not always, but most of the time, 376 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:40.920 you'll start to see a consensus form. You'll start to 377 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.759 see two or three of these companies say, you know what, 378 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:46.640 you really can handle this. Look, I think your problem 379 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:49.440 is localized, or you're going to find two or three 380 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:51.519 of them is kind of shaking their heads, thinking, wow, 381 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.359 you know it really would be best to tent this 382 00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:57.519 place and then look at your alternatives. So, whether it's 383 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:01.960 this or calling the plumber or the carpenter or whatever, 384 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:07.359 two three, sometimes even four free estimates to give yourself 385 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:09.240 the info you need to make the decision. 386 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:11.400 Deane, I have to thank you and I have to 387 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.720 just insert. I listen to you all the time, and 388 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:17.000 up until listening to you, I've done everything wrong. I 389 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:19.920 ta have one person come out charm me, sign a 390 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:23.119 contract and then know what I'm doing. So I'm learning 391 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:26.240 every day from you, and I appreciate it. I've already 392 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:28.359 got three. I'm going to go for number four, and 393 00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.160 you've helped me already make a decision. So I can't 394 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:32.000 thank you enough. 395 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:36.599 And yeah, Joyce and Tina too, bless your heart. Choyce. 396 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:38.880 All right, you call back anytime you need to. 397 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:41.160 Okay, my friend, Okay, I shall thank you. 398 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:42.799 All right, have a great day. 399 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:46.839 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 400 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:50.480 KFI AM six forty. 401 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:55.759