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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five k r c V talk station. Dan Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>in for Brian Thomas. Tuesday, it's tax Day, got to

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<v Speaker 1>get your taxes in and good morning at TATO five.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas taking the week off and I am here today,

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday and Thursday, and then I believe Kevin Gordon will

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<v Speaker 1>be filling it on Friday, so we are all looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>We are reaching out to our guests right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl Chumley is the online opinion editor and a commentary writer.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an also an author, a speaker, a Christian mother

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<v Speaker 1>and just an all round great guest and always want

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<v Speaker 1>my pleasure to welcome Cheryl Chumley to the show. And

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<v Speaker 1>Cheryl Chumley, well, welcome to Tax Day twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're you're feeling chipper ready to write that

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<v Speaker 1>giant check to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Federal government, aren't we?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? It's such an a merit.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think we should have that the tax day

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<v Speaker 1>should also be election day? People talk about that every

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<v Speaker 1>single year, that you were always reminded of how much

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<v Speaker 1>money you're sending to the government on this day every year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sean McMahon, let's let's try and re establish contact

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<v Speaker 1>with her, because that was that was not good. So

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<v Speaker 1>Sean McMahon is going to make a phone call and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and and get back with Cheryl. Hopefully we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a we'll get a better line of better contact because uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that that was not good.

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<v Speaker 2>That was not good at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But as I mentioned, she is the online opinion editor

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<v Speaker 1>at the Washington Times. She's a Christian, a writer, and

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<v Speaker 1>just a fantastic person to talk to. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>let's see if we got a better connection this time.

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<v Speaker 1>And Cheryl Chumley, there you are, and we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>our tax day. Yeah, And I always find it interesting

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<v Speaker 1>this time of year. There's always those who suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>election day should always be on on this day, on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteenth, so we're reminded of, you know, people that

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<v Speaker 1>were electing and how much money we're sent into the

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<v Speaker 1>government at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that certainly is one way to go about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually think we should have a day of national

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<v Speaker 4>mourning where we're all allowed to take day off from

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<v Speaker 4>mark and just sort of lick our wounds and reflect.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if college kids can take the day off because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like the way an election goes certainly we

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<v Speaker 1>can take the day off and you know more and

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<v Speaker 1>all the money that we've parted with that goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government. Let me get your opinion. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get your opinion on this, the whole saga going

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<v Speaker 1>on over the tariffs and China and all the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and not really all the ins and outs

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<v Speaker 1>of the tariffs. But I think one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I find interesting about this is that there is such

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<v Speaker 1>a difference of opinion, especially not just between the right

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<v Speaker 1>and the left on this, but those who are on

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<v Speaker 1>the right those There are so many people who support

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<v Speaker 1>Trump that have come out with honest disagreements about his

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<v Speaker 1>approach to tariffs, the way he's rolling this out, whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not it's going to be successful. The opinions on

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<v Speaker 1>this really run the entire spectrum. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is a testament to at least the attempt at honest

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<v Speaker 1>debate that those of us on the right one a half.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's to my way of thinking, it's refreshing in

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<v Speaker 1>a way because when it comes to the left, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what it is, we constantly see them circle the

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<v Speaker 1>wagons and protect and recite the exact same narrative, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least, you know, those of us on the right

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<v Speaker 1>can honestly and openly state our disagreements with a particular policy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 1>move on and try and do with the ultimate goal

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<v Speaker 1>being what's best for the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's honest debate based by each side, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you wholeheartedly that within the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 3>among the conservative community right now, there are very different

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<v Speaker 3>opinions with what Trump is doing with the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>But I am personally one hundred percent in favor of.

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<v Speaker 3>What he's doing because I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Not looking at my frow k, right, I'm not looking

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<v Speaker 4>at what's going on in Wall Street. I'm looking down

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<v Speaker 4>the line the future of America, both national security and

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<v Speaker 4>economic independence. And we need to bring back our manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly in certain key areas of the economies, back to America.

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<v Speaker 4>And Donald Trump is really taking a courageous stand here

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<v Speaker 4>by being the.

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<v Speaker 3>President who right and is pushing.

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<v Speaker 4>Forward for the internal disputes in his own party. Even so,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's really a long term strategy that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>benefit America for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the national media was trying to roll out a

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<v Speaker 1>new narrative over the last few days. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much traction this one is going to get,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were trying to make the case that if

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump brings back all this manufacturing into the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jonathan carl was essentially he used the term, are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to become a nation of cobblers? Because you

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<v Speaker 1>know these factories, you know, all they do is make

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<v Speaker 1>is make cell phones, and they make Nike shoes and

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<v Speaker 1>as if you know, these are the kind of jobs

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<v Speaker 1>that are beneath Americans and really don't you know, equate

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<v Speaker 1>to their definition of the dignity of work, and that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump wants to belittle American people by having, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>these types of factory jobs available for the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're going to get much traction

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<v Speaker 2>on that, on.

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<v Speaker 1>That narrative, but they certainly we were trying that out

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<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a desperate play, right to doing this administration. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you said that about a nation of cobblers, the

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<v Speaker 4>first thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's sprung to my mind was so what so what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Work is work? Really?

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<v Speaker 5>And if you are an American with impact in your mind,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't mind putting in the time in all kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of jobs. When I'm on my point here, look at

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<v Speaker 5>the jobs I held.

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<v Speaker 4>I've worked in factories, on assembly lines, I've worked in

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<v Speaker 4>dry cleaners.

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<v Speaker 3>I've worked some of the crap jobs out there.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's part of being an American and learning the

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<v Speaker 4>value of hard work.

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<v Speaker 6>And then when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Do that, you realize your success and it means more. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>we're raising a generation of youth in America to look

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<v Speaker 4>at work as if it's something dirty, if it's something

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<v Speaker 4>to be avoided. But that's not how it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be as part of the human experience. Right, You're supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to work hard, and then when you achieve success, it

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<v Speaker 4>means something. So bringing back manufacturing to America, first off,

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<v Speaker 4>it's good for the country, but those are decent, high

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<v Speaker 4>paying jobs. And with the also comes the sort of

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<v Speaker 4>skilled craftsmanship that we used to have in America instead

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<v Speaker 4>of just cookie cutter, low paying wage. You know, people

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<v Speaker 4>who construction, people who throw stuff up. We have people

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<v Speaker 4>who actually look at those trades with value and they

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<v Speaker 3>That's all good for America.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all good. And when you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so there's so many moving parts on this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think of a juggler, you know, And I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>these jugglers at circuses and they've got, you know, three balls,

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<v Speaker 1>and then ten balls and then fifteen balls, all one

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. And when I look at this situation,

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of see that that's the situation right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump hasn't even been in office three months yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got all these moving parts that are going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump has set all these different things in motion,

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<v Speaker 1>and things look like they're going one hundred different directions.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet when you listen to the national media, they

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<v Speaker 1>are of the opinion that none of this is working

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<v Speaker 1>because we don't have any results yet. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a giant ship that needs to be turned around,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get a more giant ship than the United

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<v Speaker 1>States economy. And turning that around is going to take,

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<v Speaker 1>I would suggest, a lot longer than three months. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is beyond ridiculous to sit there and try to

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<v Speaker 1>convince people that we should be seeing bottom line results

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<v Speaker 1>in such a short span of time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Trump, Sis, the brilliant strategy right is working as

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<v Speaker 4>the puppet mass pulling a straight air sur there. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>then you've got time MAGA types in the meat just

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<v Speaker 4>playing a whack a mole game of trying to gain

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<v Speaker 4>hid every which way they can.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have those in America who.

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<v Speaker 4>Are worried about their own financial their own financial soundness,

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<v Speaker 4>which very valid, right, but they also have to understand

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<v Speaker 4>that the media is purposely hyping the hysteria over what

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump is doing and purposely ignoring the long term

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<v Speaker 4>gains that his strategy will bring for political reasons, simply

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<v Speaker 4>to destroy this administration, destroy Maga, and to go back

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<v Speaker 4>to a time in America where it was a Chinese

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<v Speaker 4>system of communist capitalism that was being steamrolled at the

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<v Speaker 4>bequest of the World Economic Form threw the White House

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<v Speaker 4>into America's economy. So there's a faction in America that

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<v Speaker 4>is purposely trying to use Donald Trump's strategy against him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think most Americans, though, are on the side of

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<v Speaker 4>what Donald Trump is doing because they see the sense.

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<v Speaker 4>They see the sense of bringing back prescriptions right manufacturing

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<v Speaker 4>to America and what he's doing with chips one of

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest things that I've seen come out of the

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<v Speaker 4>White House in years. We need to bring back chips

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<v Speaker 4>assembly and manufacturing to America. That is definitely a national

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<v Speaker 4>security issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, chips, rare earth minerals, pharmaceuticals, all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We cannot be beholden to these companies and subject to

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<v Speaker 1>the whims or supply chain issues. And you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>a China said the other day that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>put a pause or temporarily stop shipping rare earth minerals

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<v Speaker 1>not only to the United States, but to other countries

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. And we just can't let ourselves fall

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<v Speaker 1>victim to that sort of whim in the future. Chayl Tomley,

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<v Speaker 1>stay right there. We've got to get a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>in here, and we will be back with you momentarily.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go ahead and do that, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>continue on pitch K the Talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty five KRC, the talk station. Are you looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a peaceful place?

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<v Speaker 1>For eight nineteen on this Tuesday morning, Dan Carroll for

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with Cheryl Chumley, the online

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<v Speaker 1>opinion editor of The Washington Times. And Cheryl Chumley, did

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to see the meeting in the Joval office

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday with the President of Al Salvador and Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's got all the media in there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fielding questions and you know they're talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>dude that got deported and all the rest of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and Caitlin Collins is, you know, trying to pin down Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought it was great because you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Rubio in there, You've got Pambody in there, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Steven Miller in there, and Jay Evans was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and Donald Trump is not afraid to toss it out

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<v Speaker 1>to someone who may have more expertise than him to

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<v Speaker 1>handle these different questions. And I thought the way Marco

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<v Speaker 1>Rubio laid it out was just fantastic. And if you

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<v Speaker 6>So far, hasn't he though. Okay, so first off, I

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<v Speaker 3>I've read the headline and I've read a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>But Marco Rubio is, without a doubt, one of the

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<v Speaker 6>strongest members of Donald Trump's administration. And I just think

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<v Speaker 6>back when he and Donald Trump are going at it

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<v Speaker 6>on the campaign trail. It's just it really speaks so

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<v Speaker 6>highly of both Donald Trump and Marco Rubio and many

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<v Speaker 6>in the Republican Party itself who are able to push

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<v Speaker 6>aside petty politics to come together for the greater good

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<v Speaker 6>of America first. And it's just it's amazing to see

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<v Speaker 6>Marco Rubio defend this nation. He's strong, he's dead on

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<v Speaker 6>with his communication, his bullet points, he's unafraid, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 6>he's emerging as presidential material himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote an op ed for the for Fox that

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<v Speaker 1>I read yesterday on the air, and it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it's so plain spoken, it's so brilliant, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so easy to understand, and that there's no equivocating whats

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<v Speaker 1>so on or whatsoever. And he's essentially saying, look, these

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<v Speaker 1>are the policies of the United States, these are the

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<v Speaker 1>policies of this president, and that is and these are

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<v Speaker 1>the policies that we're going to follow. That's the bottom line,

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<v Speaker 1>no ifs ands or butts. And I mean, he really

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<v Speaker 1>is acquitting himself quite well and making the trumpet really

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<v Speaker 1>I think making you know, it's like when Reagan was president.

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan always talked about how it was important to surround

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<v Speaker 1>yourself with people who are smarter than you in different

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<v Speaker 1>I think Trump, once he finally got that message, has

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<v Speaker 1>really put a lot of good people around himself.

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<v Speaker 2>This time around.

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<v Speaker 6>He has and sticking with Marco Rubio for a second,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, when he first emerged in politics and he

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<v Speaker 6>up the political ladder, he struck many times to me

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<v Speaker 6>watching him as a little bit angry and sometimes even petty,

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<v Speaker 6>so forth. And now it just seems like every time

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<v Speaker 6>I hear him, see him, listen to his words, he

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<v Speaker 6>seems very statesmanlike and it's just it is refreshing. It's

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<v Speaker 6>not just Marco Rubio. Donald Trump has really picked some

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<v Speaker 6>great people to surround himself with this time. And I

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<v Speaker 6>think this is why he's having such great success, because

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<v Speaker 6>the opposition sure hasn't turned down, right, The opposition is

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<v Speaker 6>still as present and as vigorous as it was from

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<v Speaker 6>his first administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the other day a side by side video

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<v Speaker 1>of Janet Yellen and then you know, talking about uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, economic Treasury policy. And then I saw, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the other side was Scott the scent you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>night and day. It's it could it couldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>any more different. I don't have you seen the video

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<v Speaker 1>that Bill Maher put out after his dinner with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>And Kid Rock. I took not the whole thing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm you know, I'm going to give props to

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Maher for coming out and talking honestly about what

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<v Speaker 1>he saw at the White House and and what his

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<v Speaker 1>interaction with Donald Trump is like. And I find it

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that a couple of days after, you know, he know,

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about his revelations and his his time his

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with Donald Trump, that he's being criticized from those

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<v Speaker 1>on the left who are calling him a sellout or

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<v Speaker 1>because he's giving his honest assessment of what his time

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<v Speaker 1>in the White House with Trump is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this is, you know, even.

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<v Speaker 1>More of a reveal of what the left is really

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<v Speaker 1>like when it comes to people being honest and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to have an honest you know, they're always the ones

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about we have to have an honest discussion

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<v Speaker 1>or an honest conversation about these sorts of things. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you try to do that, they're the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>always do everything they can to shut it down.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, and I do agree that he does get, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>kudos for him for meeting with Trump in the White

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<v Speaker 6>House and then coming out and reporting accurately, even though

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<v Speaker 6>it put his own prior views in a bad light

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<v Speaker 6>on what he experienced at the White House. But on

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<v Speaker 6>the other hand, I'm kind of you know, I look

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<v Speaker 6>at him and I think, well, where were you all this?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Trump hasn't exactly changed. What happened is that

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<v Speaker 6>he was willing, right that Bill Maher himself was willing

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<v Speaker 6>to give the guy a chance and to move past

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<v Speaker 6>his own internal biases and step outside his own troll

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<v Speaker 6>like bubble that has become the Democrat Party, a bunch

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<v Speaker 6>of marching Marxists all beating the same drum. Right, he

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<v Speaker 6>was willing finally to give this president a chance. But

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<v Speaker 6>had he been willing to do that in you know,

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<v Speaker 6>twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, then he may have been

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<v Speaker 6>seeing a different tune back then as well. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>sort of like, yay, you know, good for you, but

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<v Speaker 6>where have you been?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Good point.

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<v Speaker 1>So Cheryl Chumley will let you go. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>do that, are you feeling are you feeling better? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you feeling more empowered as a woman today? Now that

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Perry and Gail King and Jeff Bezos' girlfriend took

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<v Speaker 1>their trip up into space, and you know, with the

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<v Speaker 1>historic flight of six women up in the space capsule,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually feeling.

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<v Speaker 6>A little bit jealous. I wish I could have been

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<v Speaker 6>on that place. I don't know about empowered, more jealous.

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<v Speaker 2>Cherald Chumley, always great having you on.

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<v Speaker 1>I always appreciate it, and best of best of luck

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<v Speaker 1>with all the books and all the other things you

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<v Speaker 1>have going on. And until the next time we have

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to talk again, I'll really look forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Cheryl Chumley, thank you as always.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, thank you, Happy Easter.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Cheryl Chumley of the Washington Times

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<v Speaker 1>on fifty five KRC, the talk station fifty five KRC