Speaker 1: Fifty five k r c V talk station. Dan Carroll
Speaker 1: in for Brian Thomas. Tuesday, it's tax Day, got to
Speaker 1: get your taxes in and good morning at TATO five.
Speaker 2: Glad to be here.
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas taking the week off and I am here today,
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday, and then I believe Kevin Gordon will
Speaker 1: be filling it on Friday, so we are all looking
Speaker 1: forward to that.
Speaker 2: We are reaching out to our guests right now.
Speaker 1: Cheryl Chumley is the online opinion editor and a commentary writer.
Speaker 1: She's an also an author, a speaker, a Christian mother
Speaker 1: and just an all round great guest and always want
Speaker 1: my pleasure to welcome Cheryl Chumley to the show. And
Speaker 1: Cheryl Chumley, well, welcome to Tax Day twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're you're feeling chipper ready to write that
Speaker 1: giant check to the.
Speaker 2: Federal government, aren't we?
Speaker 3: All right? It's such an a merit.
Speaker 1: Do you think we should have that the tax day
Speaker 1: should also be election day? People talk about that every
Speaker 1: single year, that you were always reminded of how much
Speaker 1: money you're sending to the government on this day every year.
Speaker 3: I think from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean McMahon, let's let's try and re establish contact
Speaker 1: with her, because that was that was not good. So
Speaker 1: Sean McMahon is going to make a phone call and
Speaker 1: uh and and get back with Cheryl. Hopefully we'll get
Speaker 1: a we'll get a better line of better contact because uh,
Speaker 1: that that was not good.
Speaker 2: That was not good at all.
Speaker 1: But as I mentioned, she is the online opinion editor
Speaker 1: at the Washington Times. She's a Christian, a writer, and
Speaker 1: just a fantastic person to talk to. And I think
Speaker 1: let's see if we got a better connection this time.
Speaker 1: And Cheryl Chumley, there you are, and we were talking
Speaker 1: our tax day. Yeah, And I always find it interesting
Speaker 1: this time of year. There's always those who suggest that
Speaker 1: election day should always be on on this day, on
Speaker 1: the fifteenth, so we're reminded of, you know, people that
Speaker 1: were electing and how much money we're sent into the
Speaker 1: government at the same time.
Speaker 4: Well, that certainly is one way to go about it.
Speaker 4: I actually think we should have a day of national
Speaker 4: mourning where we're all allowed to take day off from
Speaker 4: mark and just sort of lick our wounds and reflect.
Speaker 1: Well, if college kids can take the day off because
Speaker 1: they don't like the way an election goes certainly we
Speaker 1: can take the day off and you know more and
Speaker 1: all the money that we've parted with that goes to
Speaker 1: the federal government. Let me get your opinion. I want
Speaker 1: to get your opinion on this, the whole saga going
Speaker 1: on over the tariffs and China and all the rest
Speaker 1: of it, and not really all the ins and outs
Speaker 1: of the tariffs. But I think one of the things
Speaker 1: I find interesting about this is that there is such
Speaker 1: a difference of opinion, especially not just between the right
Speaker 1: and the left on this, but those who are on
Speaker 1: the right those There are so many people who support
Speaker 1: Trump that have come out with honest disagreements about his
Speaker 1: approach to tariffs, the way he's rolling this out, whether
Speaker 1: or not it's going to be successful. The opinions on
Speaker 1: this really run the entire spectrum. And I think that
Speaker 1: is a testament to at least the attempt at honest
Speaker 1: debate that those of us on the right one a half.
Speaker 1: And it's to my way of thinking, it's refreshing in
Speaker 1: a way because when it comes to the left, no
Speaker 1: matter what it is, we constantly see them circle the
Speaker 1: wagons and protect and recite the exact same narrative, but
Speaker 1: at least, you know, those of us on the right
Speaker 1: can honestly and openly state our disagreements with a particular policy,
Speaker 1: and then you know, at the end of the day
Speaker 1: move on and try and do with the ultimate goal
Speaker 1: being what's best for the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honest debate based by each side, right, And
Speaker 3: I agree with you wholeheartedly that within the Republican Party,
Speaker 3: among the conservative community right now, there are very different
Speaker 3: opinions with what Trump is doing with the tariffs.
Speaker 4: But I am personally one hundred percent in favor of.
Speaker 3: What he's doing because I'm.
Speaker 4: Not looking at my frow k, right, I'm not looking
Speaker 4: at what's going on in Wall Street. I'm looking down
Speaker 4: the line the future of America, both national security and
Speaker 4: economic independence. And we need to bring back our manufacturing,
Speaker 4: particularly in certain key areas of the economies, back to America.
Speaker 4: And Donald Trump is really taking a courageous stand here
Speaker 4: by being the.
Speaker 3: President who right and is pushing.
Speaker 4: Forward for the internal disputes in his own party. Even so,
Speaker 4: it's it's really a long term strategy that's going to
Speaker 4: benefit America for decades.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the national media was trying to roll out a
Speaker 1: new narrative over the last few days. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how much traction this one is going to get,
Speaker 1: but they were trying to make the case that if
Speaker 1: Donald Trump brings back all this manufacturing into the United States,
Speaker 1: and Jonathan carl was essentially he used the term, are
Speaker 1: we going to become a nation of cobblers? Because you
Speaker 1: know these factories, you know, all they do is make
Speaker 1: is make cell phones, and they make Nike shoes and
Speaker 1: as if you know, these are the kind of jobs
Speaker 1: that are beneath Americans and really don't you know, equate
Speaker 1: to their definition of the dignity of work, and that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump wants to belittle American people by having, you know,
Speaker 1: these types of factory jobs available for the American people.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to get much traction
Speaker 2: on that, on.
Speaker 1: That narrative, but they certainly we were trying that out
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days.
Speaker 4: It's a desperate play, right to doing this administration. You know,
Speaker 4: when you said that about a nation of cobblers, the
Speaker 4: first thing.
Speaker 3: That's sprung to my mind was so what so what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: Work is work? Really?
Speaker 5: And if you are an American with impact in your mind,
Speaker 5: you don't mind putting in the time in all kinds
Speaker 5: of jobs. When I'm on my point here, look at
Speaker 5: the jobs I held.
Speaker 4: I've worked in factories, on assembly lines, I've worked in
Speaker 4: dry cleaners.
Speaker 3: I've worked some of the crap jobs out there.
Speaker 4: But that's part of being an American and learning the
Speaker 4: value of hard work.
Speaker 6: And then when you.
Speaker 4: Do that, you realize your success and it means more. Right,
Speaker 4: we're raising a generation of youth in America to look
Speaker 4: at work as if it's something dirty, if it's something
Speaker 4: to be avoided. But that's not how it's supposed to
Speaker 4: be as part of the human experience. Right, You're supposed
Speaker 4: to work hard, and then when you achieve success, it
Speaker 4: means something. So bringing back manufacturing to America, first off,
Speaker 4: it's good for the country, but those are decent, high
Speaker 4: paying jobs. And with the also comes the sort of
Speaker 4: skilled craftsmanship that we used to have in America instead
Speaker 4: of just cookie cutter, low paying wage. You know, people
Speaker 4: who construction, people who throw stuff up. We have people
Speaker 4: who actually look at those trades with value and they
Speaker 4: develop a craftsmanship with it.
Speaker 3: That's all good for America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all good. And when you look at it.
Speaker 1: There's so there's so many moving parts on this, and
Speaker 1: I think of a juggler, you know, And I've seen
Speaker 1: these jugglers at circuses and they've got, you know, three balls,
Speaker 1: and then ten balls and then fifteen balls, all one
Speaker 1: at the same time. And when I look at this situation,
Speaker 1: I sort of see that that's the situation right now.
Speaker 1: Trump hasn't even been in office three months yet, and
Speaker 1: you've got all these moving parts that are going on,
Speaker 1: and Trump has set all these different things in motion,
Speaker 1: and things look like they're going one hundred different directions.
Speaker 1: But yet when you listen to the national media, they
Speaker 1: are of the opinion that none of this is working
Speaker 1: because we don't have any results yet. And when you
Speaker 1: talk about a giant ship that needs to be turned around,
Speaker 1: you don't get a more giant ship than the United
Speaker 1: States economy. And turning that around is going to take,
Speaker 1: I would suggest, a lot longer than three months. And
Speaker 1: it is beyond ridiculous to sit there and try to
Speaker 1: convince people that we should be seeing bottom line results
Speaker 1: in such a short span of time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trump, Sis, the brilliant strategy right is working as
Speaker 4: the puppet mass pulling a straight air sur there. Right,
Speaker 4: then you've got time MAGA types in the meat just
Speaker 4: playing a whack a mole game of trying to gain
Speaker 4: hid every which way they can.
Speaker 3: And you have those in America who.
Speaker 4: Are worried about their own financial their own financial soundness,
Speaker 4: which very valid, right, but they also have to understand
Speaker 4: that the media is purposely hyping the hysteria over what
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is doing and purposely ignoring the long term
Speaker 4: gains that his strategy will bring for political reasons, simply
Speaker 4: to destroy this administration, destroy Maga, and to go back
Speaker 4: to a time in America where it was a Chinese
Speaker 4: system of communist capitalism that was being steamrolled at the
Speaker 4: bequest of the World Economic Form threw the White House
Speaker 4: into America's economy. So there's a faction in America that
Speaker 4: is purposely trying to use Donald Trump's strategy against him.
Speaker 4: I think most Americans, though, are on the side of
Speaker 4: what Donald Trump is doing because they see the sense.
Speaker 4: They see the sense of bringing back prescriptions right manufacturing
Speaker 4: to America and what he's doing with chips one of
Speaker 4: the greatest things that I've seen come out of the
Speaker 4: White House in years. We need to bring back chips
Speaker 4: assembly and manufacturing to America. That is definitely a national
Speaker 4: security issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, chips, rare earth minerals, pharmaceuticals, all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: We cannot be beholden to these companies and subject to
Speaker 1: the whims or supply chain issues. And you know there's
Speaker 1: a China said the other day that it's going to
Speaker 1: put a pause or temporarily stop shipping rare earth minerals
Speaker 1: not only to the United States, but to other countries
Speaker 1: around the world. And we just can't let ourselves fall
Speaker 1: victim to that sort of whim in the future. Chayl Tomley,
Speaker 1: stay right there. We've got to get a quick break
Speaker 1: in here, and we will be back with you momentarily.
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and do that, and we will
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Speaker 1: For eight nineteen on this Tuesday morning, Dan Carroll for
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with Cheryl Chumley, the online
Speaker 1: opinion editor of The Washington Times. And Cheryl Chumley, did
Speaker 1: you happen to see the meeting in the Joval office
Speaker 1: yesterday with the President of Al Salvador and Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is there.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got all the media in there.
Speaker 1: He's fielding questions and you know they're talking about this
Speaker 1: dude that got deported and all the rest of it,
Speaker 1: and Caitlin Collins is, you know, trying to pin down Trump.
Speaker 1: And I just thought it was great because you've got
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio in there, You've got Pambody in there, You've
Speaker 1: got Steven Miller in there, and Jay Evans was there,
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump is not afraid to toss it out
Speaker 1: to someone who may have more expertise than him to
Speaker 1: handle these different questions. And I thought the way Marco
Speaker 1: Rubio laid it out was just fantastic. And if you
Speaker 1: look at Marco Rubio, I think that guy's just been
Speaker 1: doing a great job.
Speaker 6: So far, hasn't he though. Okay, so first off, I
Speaker 6: didn't see it, but.
Speaker 3: I've read the headline and I've read a little bit
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 6: But Marco Rubio is, without a doubt, one of the
Speaker 6: strongest members of Donald Trump's administration. And I just think
Speaker 6: back when he and Donald Trump are going at it
Speaker 6: on the campaign trail. It's just it really speaks so
Speaker 6: highly of both Donald Trump and Marco Rubio and many
Speaker 6: in the Republican Party itself who are able to push
Speaker 6: aside petty politics to come together for the greater good
Speaker 6: of America first. And it's just it's amazing to see
Speaker 6: Marco Rubio defend this nation. He's strong, he's dead on
Speaker 6: with his communication, his bullet points, he's unafraid, and honestly,
Speaker 6: he's emerging as presidential material himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He wrote an op ed for the for Fox that
Speaker 1: I read yesterday on the air, and it was it
Speaker 1: was just it's so plain spoken, it's so brilliant, it's
Speaker 1: so easy to understand, and that there's no equivocating whats
Speaker 1: so on or whatsoever. And he's essentially saying, look, these
Speaker 1: are the policies of the United States, these are the
Speaker 1: policies of this president, and that is and these are
Speaker 1: the policies that we're going to follow. That's the bottom line,
Speaker 1: no ifs ands or butts. And I mean, he really
Speaker 1: is acquitting himself quite well and making the trumpet really
Speaker 1: I think making you know, it's like when Reagan was president.
Speaker 1: Reagan always talked about how it was important to surround
Speaker 1: yourself with people who are smarter than you in different
Speaker 1: areas because you can't be an expert on everything. And
Speaker 1: I think Trump, once he finally got that message, has
Speaker 1: really put a lot of good people around himself.
Speaker 2: This time around.
Speaker 6: He has and sticking with Marco Rubio for a second,
Speaker 6: you know, when he first emerged in politics and he
Speaker 6: made his presidential run and he was trying to move
Speaker 6: up the political ladder, he struck many times to me
Speaker 6: watching him as a little bit angry and sometimes even petty,
Speaker 6: a little bit uncontrolled with his emotions, too ready to
Speaker 6: get in the fray, to get in the dirt and
Speaker 6: so forth. And now it just seems like every time
Speaker 6: I hear him, see him, listen to his words, he
Speaker 6: seems very statesmanlike and it's just it is refreshing. It's
Speaker 6: not just Marco Rubio. Donald Trump has really picked some
Speaker 6: great people to surround himself with this time. And I
Speaker 6: think this is why he's having such great success, because
Speaker 6: the opposition sure hasn't turned down, right, The opposition is
Speaker 6: still as present and as vigorous as it was from
Speaker 6: his first administration.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw the other day a side by side video
Speaker 1: of Janet Yellen and then you know, talking about uh,
Speaker 1: you know, economic Treasury policy. And then I saw, you know,
Speaker 1: the other side was Scott the scent you talk about
Speaker 1: night and day. It's it could it couldn't have been
Speaker 1: any more different. I don't have you seen the video
Speaker 1: that Bill Maher put out after his dinner with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: And Kid Rock. I took not the whole thing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I'm going to give props to
Speaker 1: Bill Maher for coming out and talking honestly about what
Speaker 1: he saw at the White House and and what his
Speaker 1: interaction with Donald Trump is like. And I find it
Speaker 1: interesting that a couple of days after, you know, he know,
Speaker 1: he talked about his revelations and his his time his
Speaker 1: conversations with Donald Trump, that he's being criticized from those
Speaker 1: on the left who are calling him a sellout or
Speaker 1: a useful idiot for Trump and a propagandas for Trump,
Speaker 1: because he's giving his honest assessment of what his time
Speaker 1: in the White House with Trump is.
Speaker 2: And I think this is, you know, even.
Speaker 1: More of a reveal of what the left is really
Speaker 1: like when it comes to people being honest and trying
Speaker 1: to have an honest you know, they're always the ones
Speaker 1: to talk about we have to have an honest discussion
Speaker 1: or an honest conversation about these sorts of things. But
Speaker 1: when you try to do that, they're the ones that
Speaker 1: always do everything they can to shut it down.
Speaker 6: Yes, and I do agree that he does get, you know,
Speaker 6: kudos for him for meeting with Trump in the White
Speaker 6: House and then coming out and reporting accurately, even though
Speaker 6: it put his own prior views in a bad light
Speaker 6: on what he experienced at the White House. But on
Speaker 6: the other hand, I'm kind of you know, I look
Speaker 6: at him and I think, well, where were you all this?
Speaker 6: You know, Trump hasn't exactly changed. What happened is that
Speaker 6: he was willing, right that Bill Maher himself was willing
Speaker 6: to give the guy a chance and to move past
Speaker 6: his own internal biases and step outside his own troll
Speaker 6: like bubble that has become the Democrat Party, a bunch
Speaker 6: of marching Marxists all beating the same drum. Right, he
Speaker 6: was willing finally to give this president a chance. But
Speaker 6: had he been willing to do that in you know,
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, then he may have been
Speaker 6: seeing a different tune back then as well. So it's
Speaker 6: sort of like, yay, you know, good for you, but
Speaker 6: where have you been?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Good point.
Speaker 1: So Cheryl Chumley will let you go. But before we
Speaker 1: do that, are you feeling are you feeling better? Are
Speaker 1: you feeling more empowered as a woman today? Now that
Speaker 1: Katie Perry and Gail King and Jeff Bezos' girlfriend took
Speaker 1: their trip up into space, and you know, with the
Speaker 1: historic flight of six women up in the space capsule,
Speaker 1: I'm actually feeling.
Speaker 6: A little bit jealous. I wish I could have been
Speaker 6: on that place. I don't know about empowered, more jealous.
Speaker 2: Cherald Chumley, always great having you on.
Speaker 1: I always appreciate it, and best of best of luck
Speaker 1: with all the books and all the other things you
Speaker 1: have going on. And until the next time we have
Speaker 1: a chance to talk again, I'll really look forward to it.
Speaker 1: But Cheryl Chumley, thank you as always.
Speaker 6: All right, thank you, Happy Easter.
Speaker 2: All right, I have you.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Cheryl Chumley of the Washington Times
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