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<v Speaker 2>metcalf eleven. I assume before we get rolling, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>How can people find any live streams?

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<v Speaker 2>Any recaps that you may have going on over the

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, We'll be going live seven thirty easterns an our

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's a shame you guys haven't done more

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<v Speaker 1>work on the draft, but uh, maybe didn't give you enough.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like things are starting to solidify in the

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of what we know Flag at one, Harper

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<v Speaker 2>at two that's been known for a minute, VJ Edge

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<v Speaker 2>Come at three, feels like that one is in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the betting markets. I mean, it feels like that

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<v Speaker 2>is already a decision that's been made with him going

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<v Speaker 2>to Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>Can Nipple at four to Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 2>Does the draft start at five or do you still

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<v Speaker 2>think there's some mystery there between between the ranges of

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<v Speaker 2>three and five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, it obviously only takes one team and

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<v Speaker 3>has been pretty guarded. It kind of seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>I know, Charlotte really want to want to be but

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<v Speaker 3>I really have to allow fit the offer I think

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<v Speaker 3>to go there. So base letl we're hearing that force

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<v Speaker 3>seems pretty slidified and that sounds like Utah the griptures

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<v Speaker 3>there and it's sounds like it they kind of have

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<v Speaker 3>a split camp between whether they're going someone want Ace Bailey,

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<v Speaker 3>there's want my fears, So that that's kind of where

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<v Speaker 3>the draft seems like it's probably gonna start.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on with Ace Bailey?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that this process has been poorly managed

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<v Speaker 2>or at least as poorly managed as as it's been reported,

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<v Speaker 2>or is there actually some semblance of a reasonable strategy

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<v Speaker 2>baked in there of not going and taking these visits

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<v Speaker 2>to see if he can funnel himself to the place

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to play.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's been a weird process and it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, it feels gross a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, the agent is just

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<v Speaker 3>doing what he thinks is best for his client and

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<v Speaker 3>and they think that his best landing spot is somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>on the East coast, and the top candidates seemed to

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<v Speaker 3>be either Washington in Brooklyn. Now, those are two of

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<v Speaker 3>the teams who had worst loss. Lucked on lottery night

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<v Speaker 3>and they fell a little bit, so that also kind

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<v Speaker 3>of plays into this. But we saw Alex Sard do

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<v Speaker 3>a similar thing with Washington last year. He didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>because so Bailey's trying to start trying to do some

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<v Speaker 3>of that. But that's a lot easier to do when

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<v Speaker 3>the team you're trying to see yourself too is like

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<v Speaker 3>two or three instead of six or eight, Because at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, I have been picking at five.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, Hey, the best player able we can here

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<v Speaker 3>a franchise stranger. Sorry, He's like, we know you might

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<v Speaker 3>not want to be here, but we're gonna take you.

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<v Speaker 3>And then had basically control over your contractor the next

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<v Speaker 3>eight years.

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler, Tyler, Karen here Brooklyn at number eight. They now

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<v Speaker 4>have it seems like they're playing a video game, doing

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<v Speaker 4>a a mock simulation in two K with five first

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<v Speaker 4>they've been mentioned as a team or they haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned as a team that Ace Bailey isn't willing to

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<v Speaker 4>go to. Do we think there's a good potential of

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<v Speaker 4>Brooklyn potentially leap frogging up to three making a trade

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<v Speaker 4>with Philadelphia in order to get Ace Bailey, Or do

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<v Speaker 4>we think that with a sliding there's a chance that

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<v Speaker 4>they could stay at eight and still end up with

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they if they're dead set on eighth, I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're gonna have to go up to four to

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<v Speaker 3>probably get him, because I'd be surprised if Washington pass

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<v Speaker 3>on him. Jeremiah Fears and Trey Johnson has also been

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<v Speaker 3>linked loosely with Washington, but just the type of guys

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<v Speaker 3>that they've been swinging on recently, Ace makes too much

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<v Speaker 3>sense there, so I'd be really surprised if if you

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<v Speaker 3>Tap passes on him. I would almost expect it's like

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<v Speaker 3>an ninety five percent champs that Washington will take him

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<v Speaker 3>Utah taking eight, I think they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 3>jump up to four. And that's where both of them

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<v Speaker 3>having multiple first round picks gets in triggering and Charlotte

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<v Speaker 3>can potentially start a bit of a bidding war here

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<v Speaker 3>if they aren't head over heels so that they may

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<v Speaker 3>love Con. But even if they trade back to six,

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<v Speaker 3>same you know, a little more outside shot. But if

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<v Speaker 3>good shot at getting Con there as well. So I

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<v Speaker 3>it's the optimism from Brooklyn wanting Ah to be there,

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<v Speaker 3>But I'd be really really surprised if you fell all

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<v Speaker 3>the way to eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking at the latest mock on no Ceilings NBA. You

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<v Speaker 4>do have, they do have Jeremiah fears going to Washington,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's at the eighth teenth pick. What's the concern

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<v Speaker 4>at Oklahoma and has some major top ten upside and

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<v Speaker 4>is being projected in that top ten range by a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of outlets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that was the what what we would do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think on our front held predictive mock we had

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<v Speaker 3>and our team is very very split on fears. I

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<v Speaker 3>have fears that you know, top seven. I think he's awesome,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely by the upside, But when we look at there's

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<v Speaker 3>always at least one or two guys who really fall

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<v Speaker 3>in the draft, and it looks like him and Derek

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<v Speaker 3>Queen could be the two names who potentially have that

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<v Speaker 3>that that five to eight range, it could get pretty

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<v Speaker 3>tricky in terms of where where it makes sense for

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<v Speaker 3>and what they need in terms of point guard play,

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<v Speaker 3>and he could fall quite a bit. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>he will. I think in our predictive mock today that

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked to is like emphatic. Now he's a top

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<v Speaker 3>ten guy, and while Phoenix does need a point guard

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<v Speaker 3>for the long term, it also one shock me if

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<v Speaker 3>someone just trades up for him. So I think the

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<v Speaker 3>talent and the upside with him are just too good

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<v Speaker 3>for a guy who reclassified up a year as a

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<v Speaker 3>point guard. Historically, those guys are never good, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was awesome at Oklahoma This year.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about Walter Clayton Jr. As a prospect?

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<v Speaker 2>And is there any chance he's still sitting there at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five when the Orlando Magic select a player.

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<v Speaker 3>If he is there at twenty five, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 3>the Magic are going to be sprinting to the podium

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<v Speaker 3>to take him. But I would be pretty surprised if

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<v Speaker 3>he fell past Miami at this point. All signs seem

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<v Speaker 3>to be pointing towards that he shut down everything right

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<v Speaker 3>after the work out with them, and it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>he's hinting pretty hard, but he's going to Miami. He's

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<v Speaker 3>an awesome fit, really fun shot maker, and the way

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<v Speaker 3>he took over the NCAA tournament was incredible. But even

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<v Speaker 3>before then, going back to his stays at IONA, really

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<v Speaker 3>fun shooter, creative, smart, fun passer. He's just a hooper.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there are some limitations he's older, but at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, he's just one of these

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<v Speaker 3>guys who's probably gonna have a very long career, played

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<v Speaker 3>some very fun basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does feel like that if it's not Clayton,

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<v Speaker 2>can you give the Magic fans that are listening a

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<v Speaker 2>player that they should be doing backflips over if they're

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<v Speaker 2>available at twenty five?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Drake Richardson makes a lot of sense. He

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<v Speaker 3>is really small, but he's a former NBA pro Jason

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<v Speaker 3>Richardson's son in really high level, a really smart player,

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<v Speaker 3>creative passer. He just kind of played a shooting guard

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<v Speaker 3>role for Michigan State this year because that's what was

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<v Speaker 3>asked of him, and he was the best shooter of

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<v Speaker 3>the guards, so he kind of got relegated into that

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<v Speaker 3>more shooting guard. But he is a lot more passing

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<v Speaker 3>upside and playing off of Bronze and Polo and Desmond Vanes,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he'll give he would give the Magic a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of spacing and versatility and just overall IQ at

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of pseudo point guard spot where he's not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily having to create everything and run the offense, but

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<v Speaker 3>he can play also in that off ball role.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's not going to be a guard. If you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking more to the winging forward or center. What are

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<v Speaker 4>some names that come to mind for you for the magic.

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<v Speaker 3>Liam McNeely makes a lot of big wing struggled at

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<v Speaker 3>Yukon this year, but he had a nasty ankle turn

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<v Speaker 3>midway through the season, and then just given how that

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<v Speaker 3>point guard, which isn't his game at all. He's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>third or fourth offensive option. And the spot up guys

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<v Speaker 3>really good rebounders, smart cutters, smart off ball mover, smart

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<v Speaker 3>pather in that role playing off of front and Polow

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<v Speaker 3>kind of similar to what I was talking about with Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the spot up shooting shooting numbers are going

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<v Speaker 3>to skyrocket and then more of a wild card home

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<v Speaker 3>run type of swing. Will Riley, the wing from Illinois,

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<v Speaker 3>got off to a scorching start, struggled in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the season, and then finished really strong, smart player,

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<v Speaker 4>One more quick thing on the Magic before he let

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<v Speaker 4>getting guys that you might never have heard of. So

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<v Speaker 4>some of these international prospects that might be around at

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<v Speaker 4>there any of those guys that maybe you would fit

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<v Speaker 4>of those guys where that Magic fans can can feel

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I feel like Hugo Gonzalez fits the most

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the style of play that Orlando tends

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<v Speaker 3>to steer forwards. Ben Seraff is an awesome playmaker, great

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<v Speaker 3>positional size, The shot is a big question mark. Nolan

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm assuming that's probably where he's going to Land.

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<v Speaker 3>But Hugo Gonzales is a measured really well six six

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<v Speaker 3>The shots still a question, but some really interesting transition offense,

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Reminds me of a mix of like Christian Brown in

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Metcalf NBA draft analysts at no Ceilings NBA dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Also check out the no Ceilings NBA YouTube channel for

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<v Speaker 2>live streams that they will have tonight in reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA Draft.

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<v Speaker 1>We sing your.

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<v Speaker 2>Praises all the time on this show, so thanks so

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<v Speaker 2>much for hopping on with us. We appreciate the insight

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<v Speaker 2>any to serving. So what do you think Tyler Will

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he can be good for somebody. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't my guys who I say stay away from.

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<v Speaker 4>It's for magic specific, it's not for NBA. Has a hole.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a He's supposed to be a knockdown shooter that

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<v Speaker 4>build off of that. But for this Magic team, I

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<v Speaker 4>think he's too much of a prospect. If you want

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<v Speaker 4>go ahead and get Will Riley. But right now that

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<v Speaker 2>Him but oh, well WHAT i was saying IS i

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<v Speaker 1>Up your daily happy hour. Hot takes you got a load.

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<v Speaker 2>Of questions that have been on the text line ABOUT Tonight's.

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<v Speaker 2>Nba draft also a list from you guys from yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>about who you want in this year's class Other Than walter,

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<v Speaker 2>clayton junior because we know that's going to be one

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<v Speaker 1>Go anywhere
