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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Sorry for Asking.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for asking. I'm Cole Connor.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Adam Ramsey. This is where we talk, shop,

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<v Speaker 3>ask questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell stories, and laugh some laughs about being creators.

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<v Speaker 3>As well as consumers of adult content. We love watching too,

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<v Speaker 3>We certainly do.

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<v Speaker 2>We also discussed the impact adult films have had on us,

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<v Speaker 2>on our guests, and on the LGBTQ community.

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<v Speaker 1>So strap on and strap in.

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<v Speaker 2>And here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yay, Hi, we're back, and I'm Adam Ramsey. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>to Sorry for asking. Hi, Hey, what's Up's that? We

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<v Speaker 3>are well into season four. It's very good to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to schedule. We did an emergency cast. This

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<v Speaker 2>this is the emergency podcast because someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Was in town. Yes, we had to have him back. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a returning guest. I think this is our third

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<v Speaker 3>ever returning guest on this program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's only our third, only our third.

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<v Speaker 1>Please welcome to the show, everybody. Derek Cae.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>The voice is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the fastest introduction that we have done.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like no catch up time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you, that was all that was all you,

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<v Speaker 1>that was all you. Nobody cares about us.

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<v Speaker 2>I know well. I mean we didn't have to go

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<v Speaker 2>into it. I got a jabber for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can jabber with Derek. How about that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can sit with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, Derek. We're so excited to have you back.

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<v Speaker 3>It just made sense. He you know, you're in and

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<v Speaker 3>out of town. We haven't had Derek on in almost

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<v Speaker 3>two years at this point, which is crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was catching up on the last episode and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh my god, this was two years ago

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot has happened since then. Wow, before we

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<v Speaker 3>get started, I have one question. Are you caged right now? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, just checking. I have it with me though. You

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<v Speaker 1>do show us well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think i've ever like hell, wow, really?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's black too? Why is it? Why has it

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<v Speaker 1>got to be black? Derek?

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<v Speaker 2>I just pulled it apart.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's supposed to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on obviously I never held one before. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the thing goes in.

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<v Speaker 4>It's basically a cock ring. Yeah, okay, goes over the

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<v Speaker 4>top of the cock just right here.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys, you see, yeah, I mean your dick fits

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<v Speaker 3>in this. This look, this looks like the head of

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<v Speaker 3>your dick barely fits in this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's supposed to be solved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he gets hard, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can squish your dick into anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Noth Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I do know this about you because one thing you

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<v Speaker 3>and I have done since we recorded was we film

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<v Speaker 3>the scene together.

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<v Speaker 1>We filmed a wonderful collaboration.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really great. Yes, where you were, my little

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<v Speaker 3>fucking bitch ass bottom. I still have not had the

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<v Speaker 3>pleasure of taking your massive tool myself, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one day, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so you're not cage because I know we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it a little bit. I'm still fascinated by this.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't done it myself. That winter for our Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>gift exchange. Remember, somebody put it in the White Elephant

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<v Speaker 3>gift exchange and I might have even received it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think I regifted it.

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<v Speaker 2>I give it that sure, please give me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, if you're not really into

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<v Speaker 1>it a gift of it's probably not going to go

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<v Speaker 1>over too Yeah, but no, I love it. So you

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<v Speaker 1>still use it? Oh yeah, all the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time, all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of prefer it now whenever I bottom for

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<v Speaker 1>a collaboration. If I don't have to.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's not going to be versatile, I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>push for it into my scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, well, do you not come when you bought him?

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<v Speaker 1>It takes a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very like flabored effort to make me come when

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<v Speaker 4>I bought him. If I'm not like actively stroking right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I think that's most people.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't get since I don't get hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, not everybody has the gift that you do Cole Connor,

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<v Speaker 3>where like the minute a dick is up his ass,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just hard as a rocket, ready to ready to

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<v Speaker 3>rock rockets. We're different, bless Yeah, all we are all

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<v Speaker 3>gifted in different ways, as evidenced by this information.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, so you won a few awards, just a few,

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<v Speaker 2>just a few. You are Michelle Ying Michelle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yode all over the awards seasons, I think two years

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<v Speaker 3>in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Season, I feel like you won everything I did. Tell

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<v Speaker 3>us a little bit about that. Tell us, tell us

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<v Speaker 3>about that experience.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, going into the award season, I definitely was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I've got a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the movie Overdrive for Raging Stallion had come out.

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<v Speaker 2>That was peak that was like my rider dive from

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<v Speaker 2>the year before exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it was kind of And people had been

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<v Speaker 4>telling me, they were like, you're a shoe in, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You're always like You're like, I don't know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to jink, So yeah, I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to and I don't want to get my hopes up either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I'm definitely like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just nice to be nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, not to mention.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Falcon and Raging Stallion. They always have

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<v Speaker 3>like those, like they have like a handful of projects

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<v Speaker 3>every year where they put a lot of financial muscle

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<v Speaker 3>behind it, a lot of marketing muscle, and usually it

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<v Speaker 3>ends up being no pun intended a vehicle for one

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<v Speaker 3>of their biggest performers, Overdrive, was that for you tell

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<v Speaker 3>us a little about the plot of Overdrive.

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<v Speaker 4>So I am a psychotic ride share driver and so

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<v Speaker 4>Ben Rush I think we.

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<v Speaker 1>All know Ben Rush.

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<v Speaker 4>He wrote it. He wrote it with me in mind,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm kind of like, thanks, what is that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, do I need to talk to my therapist?

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<v Speaker 4>But he wrote it with me in mind, and because

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<v Speaker 4>he knew that I could play a very serious pert

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<v Speaker 4>Like if I needed to, I could think just like

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<v Speaker 4>very you know, no emotion, no you know, thoughts behind

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<v Speaker 4>my head except just fucking kill kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 4>so he wrote that role for me. I pick up

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<v Speaker 4>Paul Wagner, who's my like, who's the co star of Overdrive,

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<v Speaker 4>And he's bragging about, oh, I just got back from

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<v Speaker 4>Spain and I just fucked a bunch of people, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh yeah, skirt like pull up into

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<v Speaker 4>a garage and I'm like, let's go, let's roll. And

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<v Speaker 4>like we had this wonderful flip scene and from there,

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<v Speaker 4>like he doesn't answer my text, he doesn't respond to me,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I go on a murderous rampage.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, it's like the lady scorned, like that projection,

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<v Speaker 3>just projecting your anger. Yeah, it really was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like my next scene was with Danny I think his

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<v Speaker 4>last name is Danny Steele, Danny Starr.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Dan Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Danny Starr.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, he was the second scene, and like it

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<v Speaker 4>was a kind of an anonymous type thing at first,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I realized it's not Paul Wagner who I

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<v Speaker 4>was wanting to go and kill, and instead I like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>let's fuck and then let me kill you in.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, So you kill people in this movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is like it's a choice for

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<v Speaker 2>porn to like have death in a porn.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I've never killed in a porn. I have been

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<v Speaker 3>killed several times, though.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been killed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's okay. I mean I get usually like

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<v Speaker 3>the last few years, I've been kind of typecast for

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<v Speaker 3>being like, you know, a little bit psycho or crazy

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<v Speaker 3>or mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we both look at the camera real quick and

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<v Speaker 1>give us our meanest.

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<v Speaker 3>Faces YouTube cold Connor, although I yeah, ready and go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's our resting bitch faces.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, you don't have that. It's just like, was it

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<v Speaker 1>fun to play somebody so dirty and mean? It was? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Even when I was having sex for the scenes, I

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<v Speaker 4>stayed in character. Yes, I say it's psychotic as I

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<v Speaker 4>was having sex.

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<v Speaker 1>This is different.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but yeah it was fantastic. And honestly, when so

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<v Speaker 4>I won Gavian Best Actor for that, and like leading

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<v Speaker 4>up to it, people were like, yeah, yeah, they were

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<v Speaker 4>like gay Vian. Even they did a I guess like

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<v Speaker 4>a press release for the movie and they said I

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<v Speaker 4>was erotic. Yet oh god, what was the word they used.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't think of it, but it was basically like psychotic,

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<v Speaker 4>but erotic, psychotic, erotic.

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<v Speaker 1>Psychotic, erotic. That's gonna be mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lady, Yeah, yeah, Well, congratulations. What were all the awards

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<v Speaker 3>you won? Or have even?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you think of all the awards you have won? Since?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't can so ex Biz Gay Performer of the

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<v Speaker 1>Year amazing twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Now twice in a row. So you went from Michelle

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<v Speaker 3>Yo to Tom Hanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool, Okay, that's never been done before. Wow, performers won

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<v Speaker 4>rat twice and so I was like, okay, record holder,

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<v Speaker 4>record breaker, whatever you want to call that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's pretty fucking cool. Gave you inn Best Newcomer and

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<v Speaker 4>Best Actor in the same year, which had never been

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<v Speaker 4>done before, and then Grabby's Best Duo, Best Actor Performer

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<v Speaker 4>of the Year, and just for fans.

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<v Speaker 3>All in the same year, all in the same year.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>So you went from Tom Hanks to like Lauren Hill

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<v Speaker 3>where you're like holding a bunch of all these awards

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<v Speaker 3>on the press carpet.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, there is a picture of me because I was

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<v Speaker 4>crying after gave in. I lost it after I won,

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<v Speaker 4>you know those an Overdrive one Best Feature for gave En,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was just like a clean sweep for Overdrive.

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<v Speaker 4>Paul Wagner got Best Supporting Actor for Pace, so it

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<v Speaker 4>was a clean sweep. And as I'm like, I'm holding

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<v Speaker 4>three awards because Ben Rush or oh no it was

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<v Speaker 4>a Toby, let me hold the Best Feature award. So

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<v Speaker 4>I literally do have a picture like crying, like the

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<v Speaker 4>three massive gave in awards, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is That's so cool?

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<v Speaker 3>It was completely for me.

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<v Speaker 2>What a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, congratulations. Did you ever see this happening? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>and like, look at all that's happened. That's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I never expected it would happen. I really did not.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get the opportunities, you're ready for them. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're always tested. Do you do that membership with clear?

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<v Speaker 1>So I still use talent testing?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's just that you pay by It's just by testing.

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<v Speaker 4>But the reason why is some studios will actually pay

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sometimes I'll be like, oh, here's my talent testing

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so you get them to reimburse you for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but they wouldn't pay for a month membership because

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<v Speaker 4>it's like four hundred dollars, right, I wouldn't pay for that,

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<v Speaker 4>but they'll pay for the individual test Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been like thinking about it because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been that focused on doing studio work lately,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, if they know that you're ready,

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<v Speaker 2>then they'll be like if they need somebody last minute,

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<v Speaker 4>I've kind of become that guy in Vegas because like

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of scenes I've gotten recently of just like

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<v Speaker 4>day of Yeah, the studio calling me, hey, are you available,

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm testing.

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<v Speaker 1>That was me in San Francisco and I lived there.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like anytime they needed somebody last minute,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Live down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, it's fantastic, Well, porn hack.

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<v Speaker 3>What else? Well, aside from that, I mean I have

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<v Speaker 3>some answers for this. I'm sure Cole does too, But

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<v Speaker 3>what else besides the reliability of being available? You attribute

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<v Speaker 3>longevity and success in an industry like this for a

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a lot. Honestly, Professionalism I think is number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when I show up on a set, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 4>to be there. I'm kind to everybody, Like I'll walk

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<v Speaker 4>in and I like, I'm like, hey, guys, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 4>We're ready to make the fucking porn today. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>just I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, you don't just look at your phone the whole

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<v Speaker 3>time and roll your eyes when everyone tries to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out of here, okay, okay, cool. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the one, like different, a different approach. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 4>On the gay side because I've been venturing into all sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're going to really get into that.

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<v Speaker 4>On the gay side, I definitely am the one that's

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<v Speaker 4>like with my scene partner, I'm kind of like going

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<v Speaker 4>to keep this going, like even when cameras are off,

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<v Speaker 4>you like have a little fun. Like I am that

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<v Speaker 4>guy on set. So unless it's like a no, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to do this, I am going to be Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mean like after the scene or do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean it in between takes.

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<v Speaker 4>Between takestching everything kind of going well, yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean like that's how you hold.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's like number one gets you through the

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<v Speaker 2>day faster because then they are like then there's like

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<v Speaker 2>not as many breaks. You're like you're just keeping each

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a couple of scenes that I've been in

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<v Speaker 1>where like they were holding for us and because we're

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<v Speaker 1>like getting it on exactly where we're supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, are you guys ready, And I'm like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been ready the cameras.

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<v Speaker 3>Has there ever been a time when a director has

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<v Speaker 3>been like okay, okay, like hold it for the scene please? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Actually yeah, it has been because it's like I'll get

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<v Speaker 4>riled up, but I know how to like control.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't control.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm like, at this point, y'all, you'll know me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just having fun over here. But you know, being professional,

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<v Speaker 4>being kind, and another thing is actually doing what the

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<v Speaker 4>director wants, like within your boundaries and within what you're

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<v Speaker 4>comfortable to do. But like if the director says, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd really love to see this, and it's within your boundaries,

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<v Speaker 4>being like, yeah, let's roll, let's do it. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>on sets before where directors have said, hey, let's let's

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<v Speaker 4>try and do this and the person be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't really want to do that, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really like.

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<v Speaker 4>That, and it's like, okay, let's try something different. But

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<v Speaker 4>like with me, I'm kind of like, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 4>make it work. Yes and yeah, yes, exactly. Improv come on, yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Cool. I love that your response to that was improv

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<v Speaker 3>and ariana Grande, which is what most people in the

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<v Speaker 3>community these days would say after I say yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>I've been saying yes and for years and it's an

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<v Speaker 3>improv thing. But she co opted it. She said that a.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun little way. Now I love her. Whatever, but cool.

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<v Speaker 3>You know a lot of those guests we've been having

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<v Speaker 3>lately I feel like a lot of their work has

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<v Speaker 3>been mostly their own content. Would you say you are

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<v Speaker 3>mostly working on studio work still or do you focus

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<v Speaker 3>more on your personal content?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sures do video. Yeah, I'm you're a studio star.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a studio bitch. That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Like just last week I had five studios.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And a collaboration you always, yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You're always like whenever we talked about like some shoots,

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<v Speaker 2>lined up, some studio ones and we changed this one

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<v Speaker 2>we were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, yes we accommodated his schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say. I was like, it's always

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<v Speaker 2>raining now, like what very rainy? Like next fire season.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to be like get Adam and Colin the studio,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, make.

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<v Speaker 3>It rain right, yeah, making it just making it so wet.

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<v Speaker 2>So wet. This wedding wedding Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one of the big things that you've done since

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<v Speaker 3>we last had you on, which is probably definitely contributing

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<v Speaker 3>to your busied schedule, is the fact that you moved

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<v Speaker 3>from Salt Lake City or from outside Salt Lake City

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<v Speaker 3>to Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, how has that move been? It was the smartest

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<v Speaker 4>move I could have made. When when July last year,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, moving to the in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 4>desert in July, I was like, wow, such a choice.

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<v Speaker 4>But it all worked out. I was able to get

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<v Speaker 4>a renter for my place that I have in Utah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you still own that place?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had a winter.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a renter, and then the very next day

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<v Speaker 4>I got approved from my apartment in Vegas, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it was like, oh shit, we gotta go. And so

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<v Speaker 4>what's funny is I was in Prague at the time

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<v Speaker 4>because I even film internationally now like before when I

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<v Speaker 4>was on the podcast before, I hadn't really done anything international.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm doing a lot of international as well. So

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Prague and I was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>there for another week, but I was like, oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta go. Like I was with Sofia, like my

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<v Speaker 4>you know, my work wife, Yeah, close friend Sophia, she

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<v Speaker 4>she was there. But yeah, So I moved to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was the smartest move because now it's oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're in town, You're in Vegas. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>studios have moved there straight by Gay trans all of

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<v Speaker 4>them have moved there. And so last minute is it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's honestly a last minute kind of thing where almost

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<v Speaker 4>every other day I get a call like, hey, are

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<v Speaker 4>you available? And that's how it was the smartest thing

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<v Speaker 4>I could have done.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're reliable, you're local, and in essence, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that makes you like rather affordable too, Like you could

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<v Speaker 3>probably demand more because they're not spending on hotels and flights, right,

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<v Speaker 3>not really, no, no, okay, so then I guess that's

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<v Speaker 3>what makes you affordable.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually I discussed it with someone that's in the

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<v Speaker 4>casting realm, and I kind of was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was like, I feel like I because I just

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<v Speaker 4>won all these fucking awards. I was like, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I should, you know, maybe ask for a

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<v Speaker 4>little bump your rate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But then the person I talked to, they were actually like,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want to price yourself out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, so you don't want to get big

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<v Speaker 3>for your breches.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So, my my gay rate is a little higher

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<v Speaker 4>than like the standard, but it's not to the point

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<v Speaker 4>to where I don't get regular bookings. Because I asked

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<v Speaker 4>if I raised it up a little more, if they

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<v Speaker 4>would hire me as much, and they were like, this

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<v Speaker 4>just one studio I love to work for, and they

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<v Speaker 4>were kind of like, m, you probably wouldn't get as

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<v Speaker 4>much if you raise your rate again. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'd rather have more work and less pay than less

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<v Speaker 4>work and more pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow you hear that, ladies, naim he's humble too. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're like, I'm just here for the work.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's yeah. I mean the awards can give you

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<v Speaker 2>a false sense of security that like you. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a golden globe. It's not. Yeah, I've said it before.

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<v Speaker 2>and an egot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>They just don't won't get you an yeah even with

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<v Speaker 2>an em.

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<v Speaker 3>You're cool, yeacht.

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<v Speaker 1>So it brings you to LA.

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<v Speaker 4>This week it was all studio work, podcasts and a

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<v Speaker 4>collaboration with a cisgender female. Huh yes, really big on

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<v Speaker 4>the straight side. She actually just hosted the Avian Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>What is her name?

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<v Speaker 4>Blake Blossom, Blake blossoms stunning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that could be like a good boy porn name too.

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<v Speaker 2>Blake like a fisting bottom, like.

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<v Speaker 1>A rose bud.

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<v Speaker 2>Blossom, so bud blossom. Oh, my god, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>write that down.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question about this, bud Blossom.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually that's buddy, Buddy Blossom, just spitballing here, yes and

432
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<v Speaker 5>yes and well so okay, so yeah, this was something

433
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<v Speaker 5>I think you were starting to just consider when we

434
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<v Speaker 5>last had you on the show.

435
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<v Speaker 3>And you've really gone far into this, and I love

436
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<v Speaker 3>how outspoken you are on your social media about the

437
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<v Speaker 3>fact that you still identify very much as a gay

438
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<v Speaker 3>adult film performer, a gay man.

439
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<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, very gay.

440
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<v Speaker 3>You're so good at it, and you're foray into working

441
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<v Speaker 3>with cisgender females. First we'll get into how it's.

442
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<v Speaker 1>Been for you.

443
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<v Speaker 3>But I'm really curious in the straight world do they

444
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<v Speaker 3>refer to you as like gay performer who's coming on

445
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<v Speaker 3>to the straight side. Are you just another one of

446
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<v Speaker 3>the bucks in the wings? Because I feel like straight

447
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<v Speaker 3>guys are in the straight industry are just kind of

448
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<v Speaker 3>like often seen as props, you know what I mean.

449
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<v Speaker 3>It can be that, Okay, it very well can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about that a little bit about what that

451
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<v Speaker 1>experience has been like.

452
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've loved it. I've really loved the experience overall.

453
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<v Speaker 4>I've never had a negative experience on set on the

454
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<v Speaker 4>straight side by or trans Okay, like there's sometimes I

455
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<v Speaker 4>am just a prop.

456
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<v Speaker 1>I did this studio. I worked for the studio called

457
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<v Speaker 1>Team Skeet. I've ever heard of them. You watched straight porn?

458
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you do, you might have heard.

459
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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm sure where it was strictly a point of

460
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<v Speaker 4>view from my point of view on the girl, and

461
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<v Speaker 4>I literally was just like there, you know, being pole that's.

462
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<v Speaker 3>All I want.

463
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<v Speaker 2>But I don't want Yeah, I don't watch POV stuff.

464
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<v Speaker 2>I usually I mean I watched like Double Penetration, straightborn. Yeah,

465
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<v Speaker 2>like that's pretty much.

466
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<v Speaker 1>He likes two guys and a girl. He has his

467
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<v Speaker 1>own Now do you know about this?

468
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<v Speaker 3>M ms mondays, I've been listening to I've been listening

469
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<v Speaker 3>to it since you're the best, like a super fan

470
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<v Speaker 3>as well.

471
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<v Speaker 1>Amazing. They don't refer to me as like the gay dude.

472
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<v Speaker 1>They don't.

473
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<v Speaker 4>They're just like, yeah, that's what I was curious about, Like, yeah, okay,

474
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<v Speaker 4>they don't, because like when I show up even on

475
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<v Speaker 4>straight sets, I'm like, hey, guys, how's it going? Like

476
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<v Speaker 4>glad to be here, Happy to be here, And the

477
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<v Speaker 4>only thing that's really different that I've noticed is the

478
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<v Speaker 4>like catering to the women on the straight side because

479
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<v Speaker 4>they are the ones that you know, the people that

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<v Speaker 4>are paying, are paying to see sure, and so like

481
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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless it's.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Even on the street side.

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<v Speaker 4>Though, like I make I make less per scene just

485
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<v Speaker 4>because I sometimes I am just the pole, like that's

486
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<v Speaker 4>all I am.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm totally fine with them, Like you want to,

488
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<v Speaker 1>are you?

489
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is that is that enjoyable for you? What

490
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<v Speaker 3>is it that you enjoy about it? Just to give

491
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<v Speaker 3>our audience as a sense as a performer.

492
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<v Speaker 4>I love one. I love being on set. I love

493
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<v Speaker 4>you know, being there. I just got signed to a

494
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<v Speaker 4>modeling a modeling agency for the straight Side, okay, and

495
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<v Speaker 4>they're starting to pick me up for more and more

496
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<v Speaker 4>and more, and I'm like just the feeling of like, hey,

497
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<v Speaker 4>we've booked you for a scene. I'm like, yes, it's

498
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<v Speaker 4>just a it's a natural high. Like I get just

499
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<v Speaker 4>excited about it no matter what it is. I'm like, yeah,

500
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<v Speaker 4>let's fucking do this. And when it comes to being

501
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<v Speaker 4>on the straight side, I've found that there's a lot

502
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<v Speaker 4>more when it comes to working with the women, you know,

503
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<v Speaker 4>Like when it comes.

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<v Speaker 3>To gay guys.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I if I look at you for three

506
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<v Speaker 4>seconds like this, it's like all right, game on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's like same with you, it'd be like all right,

509
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<v Speaker 4>let's do this. But with women you've got to kind

510
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<v Speaker 4>of walk in there and be careful. You can't just

511
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<v Speaker 4>walk in and be like, hey, you ready to fuck?

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But then do you think they're a little i don't know,

514
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<v Speaker 2>like more easy with you because they know that you're

515
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<v Speaker 2>not really like gonna pursue them after Like I would

516
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<v Speaker 2>think I would think it'd be kind of like a

517
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<v Speaker 2>relief for the girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Well wait, but before we get into that, like, tell

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<v Speaker 3>me what you mean exactly what do you mean by

520
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<v Speaker 3>be careful with the female performer?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have to do or not?

522
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<v Speaker 3>Do?

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<v Speaker 4>You have to be extremely respectful? Okay, you can't treat

524
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<v Speaker 4>them like you're just there to fuck them. I mean

525
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<v Speaker 4>some girls are like that, but they will let you know,

526
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<v Speaker 4>like you a guy, especially you know, sister and your

527
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<v Speaker 4>male cannot roll up into a set and expect to

528
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<v Speaker 4>be the big dog there like it is. It is

529
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<v Speaker 4>definitely female focused, female centric, and they are the ones

530
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<v Speaker 4>that are to be respected as well as the ones

531
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<v Speaker 4>that you know, when I walk on a set and

532
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<v Speaker 4>I meet especially if I meet a girl for the

533
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<v Speaker 4>first time, I'm like, I introduce myself, I shake her hand,

534
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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, or you know, if she's cool with it,

535
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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Hi, nice to meet you. I'm Derek, and

536
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<v Speaker 4>then I let her run the show.

537
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

538
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<v Speaker 2>So like not even a hug right away, no show.

539
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wouldn't even go up for a hug ut

540
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<v Speaker 4>less they were like unless I was like, do you

541
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<v Speaker 4>do hugs? Like, I'm happy to hug, but it's definitely

542
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<v Speaker 4>I roll in and I let them call the shots.

543
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is fascinating to me because couldn't you

544
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<v Speaker 3>say the same about the gay side of things, Like

545
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<v Speaker 3>isn't it always roll in and be respectful of your

546
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<v Speaker 3>scene partners?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think there's a higher tolerance. There's a

548
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<v Speaker 2>higher tolerance for like space, Like if I didn't get

549
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<v Speaker 2>a hug from my scene partner when I fucking met them,

550
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if I didn't know them already, even like

551
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<v Speaker 2>give me a hug like we're about to fuck, Like.

552
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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that on the show.

553
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So maybe you're saying it's a different way of

554
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<v Speaker 3>displaying respect for your scene partner.

555
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like I see, I've been on some sets before

556
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<v Speaker 4>where like it was for a chaosman shoot I think,

557
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<v Speaker 4>and my scene partner, I'd never met him before, didn't

558
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<v Speaker 4>really know who he was. I was already there. He

559
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<v Speaker 4>shows up, he walks through the door. We took one

560
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<v Speaker 4>look look at each other, and we just started making out.

561
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<v Speaker 4>We did not even say hello to each other. We

562
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<v Speaker 4>just like looked.

563
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<v Speaker 1>At him before I had never hot, and like I

564
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<v Speaker 1>looked at him and I was just like, come here,

565
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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be fine. Yeah exactly.

566
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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing like that our response to that is

567
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<v Speaker 2>like you never met them before hot, like sure, like

568
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<v Speaker 2>man a girl like a girl would think like, oh

569
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<v Speaker 2>kind of scary maybe.

570
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So it's there, there's a barrier there that it's

571
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<v Speaker 4>when it comes to respect of the females. It's definitely

572
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<v Speaker 4>one of like I'm gonna let you call the shots here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna be the one that walks up in

574
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<v Speaker 4>there and says, hey, let's fuck, let's do this. You

575
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<v Speaker 4>know you're gonna do what I want to do kind

576
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<v Speaker 4>of thing. Absolutely not, And even you know, like when

577
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<v Speaker 4>I met that guy, for the first time I started

578
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<v Speaker 4>making out. I cannot see that happening on a straight

579
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<v Speaker 4>set mm hmm, and could not see that happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, we are like burning through this conversation, which is

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<v Speaker 3>doctor Josh. Oh my god, wait, I did something crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>just non sequitor. I went to doctor Gonzalez last week

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<v Speaker 3>for something very new. I did dick botox. You guys, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Dick botox. Yes. Troy Daniels messaged me and he was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend is doing this thing. Have you heard about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you talk to doctor Gonzalez about it? And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, it's dick botox and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck does that mean? Because I've heard of

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<v Speaker 1>scrow talks.

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<v Speaker 3>I just realized I'm telling the world what I did

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<v Speaker 3>recently privately with my eurologists.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean so, but it could take it could enlighten

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<v Speaker 2>some people. Yes, yes, that helped sex.

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<v Speaker 3>So I reached doctor Zalez. I was like, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you think about this? And he was like, well, it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a new thing, but people do come

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<v Speaker 3>in and do it. I was like, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>is there any chance this could be bad? Is there

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<v Speaker 3>any chance this could have negative side effects? And he

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<v Speaker 3>was like not at all. It's slightly costly, but like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but you know, you can choose your level

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<v Speaker 3>it is is kind of like in the same area

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<v Speaker 3>of the dick where you shoot bi mix or CRIMEX

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<v Speaker 3>and like you know, ten and two in the corpus cavernosa,

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<v Speaker 3>as he told us, on each side, you do twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five to fifty units of botox and it's essentially putting

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<v Speaker 3>in botox and the soft tissue of the penis so

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<v Speaker 3>that it hangs a little better theoretically and also makes

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<v Speaker 3>it relaxed enough so that it encourages easier blood flow.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that makes sense, yes, yeah, because if it's like

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<v Speaker 2>if it encourages better hanging, yes, then like yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know what you know, when you're like you've just

643
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<v Speaker 2>had sex and you've come and like you're still kind

644
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<v Speaker 2>of like swing in that Yeah, yeah, yes, we got that.

645
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.319
<v Speaker 3>Like I call it spa dick spot, like when you're

646
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 3>walking around the spa because you're like you've been in

647
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 3>hot tubs and saunas. You're just like swinging around like

648
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 3>a fucking boxwhere Yeah, so yeah it has. He said,

649
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 3>wait two weeks to see the full benefits, but like

650
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of already like noticing.

651
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, I'm ready. Okay, here we go.

652
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah the dick's man, I can't imagine you need that

653
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>much though, like that much what anybody needs? Like, it

654
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>can't be it's one hundred units, one hundred units fifty

655
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:32.359
<v Speaker 2>on each side.

656
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.319
<v Speaker 1>She said, you could do twenty five on each side,

657
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 1>but it won't be as effective. Are we talking about

658
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 1>like syringe units?

659
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of

660
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 3>bill tucks. That's a lot.

661
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know the it's.

662
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>On your face.

663
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 1>You're like, I don't do that. I don't need it.

664
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>See I got the full full range of motion in

665
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:51.519
<v Speaker 1>those eyebrows.

666
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if the yeah, what the levels are?

667
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.000
<v Speaker 3>So here we are just plugging more doctor Gonzalez work.

668
00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>If anybody needs looking up.

669
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I have something very special as well that I recently did.

670
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>That's right, tell us about that. Yes, yes, doctor Gonzalez

671
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 1>performed my vasectomy.

672
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Wow. Yes, So the reason I got the visectomy was

673
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.839
<v Speaker 4>I'd performed with two women and I'd also performed with

674
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 4>a transgender man that was not on birth control.

675
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

676
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 4>And the possibility for conception is there, yes, no matter

677
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 4>what you do, Like, it's the possibilities there.

678
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>If I may cut in, you have mentioned to me

679
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>before that apparently it's kind of like a staggering amount

680
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 1>of women in the industry are not on birth control.

681
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Is that correct? Correct?

682
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy?

683
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but go ahead, well just just like to caveat that,

684
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.759
<v Speaker 4>like birth control can really negatively affect a woman's body

685
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 4>and a transgender man's body, okay, really can fuck with

686
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 4>their hormones, it can fuck with how their overall cycle

687
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 4>and every like. You look at the side effects of

688
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 4>birth control, and I'm like, I wouldn't want to take

689
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 4>that ship. Yeah, I absolutely would not. And so because

690
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 4>I'd performed with women that were not on birth control,

691
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.000
<v Speaker 4>in the transgender man that was not on birth control,

692
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I am not trying to have a

693
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 4>baby out of this, And so it scared me enough

694
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.200
<v Speaker 4>and my anxiety was so high that I reached out

695
00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:17.400
<v Speaker 4>to doctor Gonzalez and I was like, hey, yeah, I know,

696
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm a gated. Yes, I think this is a very

697
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.599
<v Speaker 4>smart move on my part to do this. And he

698
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 4>was like, yep, that would be a smart idea.

699
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

700
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:31.400
<v Speaker 4>And so last year, like I did the whole in

701
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 4>the state of California because I got it done here.

702
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 4>You have to have a consultation and then you have

703
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.599
<v Speaker 4>to wait thirty days by law, and after that thirty

704
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.279
<v Speaker 4>days you can you have six months to get the

705
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 4>procedure done.

706
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Because they're really.

707
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 4>Kind of like, are you sure you want to do this?

708
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 4>You sure you want to sterilize yourself all this kind

709
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 4>of stuff, and is that.

710
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 1>The reason for the thirty days is to just make

711
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 1>sure you are psychologically like, yeah, prepared. Yeah.

712
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 4>It takes longer to get a vasectomy then it does

713
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 4>to buy a gun.

714
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Geez unpack that, ladies. Wait, is it reversible as cool?

715
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Last it is, but it's not like a permanent reversal.

716
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 4>It's like, if you get it reversed, I believe there's

717
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 4>like a seventy percent chance it's effective.

718
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 1>So it's not.

719
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 4>Entirely reversible, but it is quote unquote you ask doctor Gonzales,

720
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 4>he definitely would know a lot more than I sure.

721
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 2>And of course you still shoot like good loads.

722
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

723
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 4>The only thing that a vasectomy does is it cuts

724
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 4>your vas deference. Yes, which is the tube that carries

725
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 4>sperm to your prostate, not semen, not semen. Your semen

726
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.559
<v Speaker 4>is what's inside your prostate. Think gets blown out every

727
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 4>time you blow the load.

728
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness.

729
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I've I've had no change in my overall

730
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 4>like volume, popstar change my volume, but like my overall

731
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 4>it's everything's the exact same.

732
00:32:58.039 --> 00:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wow.

733
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, the after the thirty days I got it done.

734
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.039
<v Speaker 4>The recovery for me was a little rough. Really, I've

735
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 4>had I've heard from some guys that like the recovery

736
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, after a day, I was fine, and

737
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 4>then I heard another guy that was like, oh for

738
00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:13.799
<v Speaker 4>two straight weeks I.

739
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Was in pain.

740
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure for me.

741
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 4>For me it was about a week. But after it

742
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 4>was about day four or five, it felt like someone

743
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 4>was yanking on my balls every time I stood up,

744
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.720
<v Speaker 4>because it was like muscular, it's muscular, what's happening down there?

745
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.519
<v Speaker 4>And so like it they would kind of ache from

746
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 4>me just standing up. But I called doctor Gazalez and

747
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.519
<v Speaker 4>he was like, oh, here's a muscle relaxer. Here's some ibuprofen,

748
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 4>and good is new.

749
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 3>Thanks modern medicine. Yeah.

750
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 4>And then after that, like it was just a couple

751
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:46.960
<v Speaker 4>of weeks where I was tender a little bit, but

752
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:50.240
<v Speaker 4>like after seven days I was back to normal.

753
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and now no.

754
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.559
<v Speaker 4>Worries of that's I mean, way to be responsible, that's

755
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:57.640
<v Speaker 4>d I was not going to.

756
00:33:57.759 --> 00:33:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Be the worst.

757
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine? Yeah, oh my god, old Buddy Blossom

758
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.079
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. She's like, hey.

759
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, You're like, I want to I want to keep it.

760
00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 4>It would be a beautiful baby, but but I wanted

761
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:18.599
<v Speaker 4>to take responsibility for my part in it as a dude.

762
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm like, it's it definitely kind of is

763
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 4>up to me to make sure that I'm not the

764
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:25.360
<v Speaker 4>one impregnating someone else.

765
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Is a procedure like that covered by insurance? It is okay,

766
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 3>it would make sense to be yes, yeah, I mean

767
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.000
<v Speaker 3>it is a responsible.

768
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Act fully covered by insurance.

769
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Yet great, nice, you want a headshirt deductible a little faster?

770
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, how what is the ratio between working with

771
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 3>gay studios versus straight studios or or female focused studios

772
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:48.519
<v Speaker 3>for me?

773
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh, I don't think people are probably not going

774
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 1>to be happy about this one. I mean, you don't

775
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 1>have to share if you don't want to.

776
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 4>I absolutely will because I find this interesting and it's

777
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:02.480
<v Speaker 4>the truth is my straight work. There's a lot more

778
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 4>opportunity for straight.

779
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Scenes, and we know that you would rather get paid

780
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 2>less and work more correct, So.

781
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't advertise that, right, like.

782
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 2>In Vegas with a sign.

783
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 1>Over here with my awards.

784
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:27.679
<v Speaker 3>In a radio four. Yes, I was just going to

785
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:33.280
<v Speaker 3>say that, Oh my god, yes, I was like radio fly.

786
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>But you mentioned that, like you're like, people aren't going

787
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.280
<v Speaker 2>to be happy about this, Like, because I've got my stuff?

788
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 2>How do you deal with people not being receptive to

789
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 2>your being fluid in this industry?

790
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 4>How do I not be Yeah, exactly? How do I

791
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:55.239
<v Speaker 4>not be offensive about this? I'm sure you've run into

792
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.559
<v Speaker 4>it as well, the ones basically being like you're not

793
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 4>really gay, you're not really gay, you're promoting conversion therapy.

794
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 4>You've got to know all of this bullshit to those

795
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 4>people specifically.

796
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 1>And they will be watching because we've been getting a

797
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of comments on.

798
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Our YouTube from those people, so we can address them directly, right, will,

799
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 3>let's address you directly address.

800
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 2>And actually, when you say nasty things on YouTube, we

801
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>can report you.

802
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 4>What I would honestly say is like, stop being so

803
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 4>close minded and stop pushing your thoughts and whatever you

804
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 4>think a gay man is on someone else. What I

805
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 4>identify is is what I identify is, and that's my

806
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:36.039
<v Speaker 4>fucking business.

807
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>There we go. Amen.

808
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love how we looked into the camera.

809
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I'm addressed.

810
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Please do please do, because like the sheer number of

811
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:48.400
<v Speaker 4>people I have had to block, I know, because they're like, oh,

812
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:49.960
<v Speaker 4>you're really bisexual or you're.

813
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Not really You're like what, who cares?

814
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:51.920
<v Speaker 3>What?

815
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Did you think it was hot?

816
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

817
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 4>That's all I care about, right, that is all I

818
00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 4>care about. And so yeah, they're they're probably not going

819
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 4>to be really happy to know that, Like I'm getting

820
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 4>more scenes on the straight side than I am on

821
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:07.440
<v Speaker 4>the gay side. Yeah, and with trans and by and uh,

822
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, other anything that's not strictly with a cist

823
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 4>gender man, I'm getting more scenes in that world.

824
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 3>So so yeah, so I guess the answer, But you

825
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 3>still definitely identify as gay, and the way you would

826
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:26.599
<v Speaker 3>explain that is that you are genuinely more attracted to men.

827
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know, you are very very adamant about

828
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 3>not having any interest in romantic entanglements.

829
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Correct, But.

830
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 3>Were there to be such a thing, it would be

831
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>towards it'd be a man, a cist gender man, a

832
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 3>cist gender man. For sure, I need dick, he needs

833
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 3>you know what.

834
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.119
<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is, he's into dick, you guys.

835
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 3>I and also like plus.

836
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 4>A fun but exactly yeah, like and I also need

837
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 4>just like a nice pair of balls. That's that's that

838
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 4>is a thing for me. Like you might have seen

839
00:37:58.199 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 4>some things on Twitter or something like, you know, some

840
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.719
<v Speaker 4>one just laying down next to their partner and they're

841
00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 4>just kind of like playing with their balls.

842
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I would be the one playing with their balls.

843
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like a dad and a

844
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 3>pair of balls. But like, I guess I should have

845
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 3>prefaced this with the question, with this kind of question,

846
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>because this isn't a question we get asked very often,

847
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 3>but maybe to these people who are watching and to

848
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 3>everyone else in the audience, like what makes a person gay?

849
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.159
<v Speaker 1>What makes you gay? Is it just that you like

850
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>dick and balls?

851
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:28.960
<v Speaker 3>What? What? What? Else?

852
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 1>What?

853
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:33.480
<v Speaker 3>What? To someone who would argue, and this is often

854
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.280
<v Speaker 3>how they say it in much more crude and crass terms,

855
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 3>but like, well, if you are also even possibly interested

856
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 3>in vagina, what makes you gay?

857
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Then yeah, I went through the gay struggle. You know.

858
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 4>I grew up in Alabama in the nineties, and like

859
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 4>or I came of age and understand and I started

860
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 4>to understand. I was like, oh, I'm into dudes in

861
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.320
<v Speaker 4>Alabama in the nineties. Also with like you know, being

862
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 4>afraid to have sex because the AIDS epidemic was still

863
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:02.239
<v Speaker 4>and kicked into high.

864
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:03.079
<v Speaker 1>Gear in the nineties.

865
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:06.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, I went through that struggle of like I

866
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be with women, Like I just don't.

867
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 4>It's not my thing, Like.

868
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.320
<v Speaker 2>You don't envision yourself that life or that life for you?

869
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Correct? Yeah, correct.

870
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.800
<v Speaker 4>And there was a creator. His name's Jonah Wheeler. I

871
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:22.400
<v Speaker 4>don't know if he he loved he's a fantashic. We

872
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:23.960
<v Speaker 4>want to get him on this show for sure, you

873
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.639
<v Speaker 4>absolutely sure he is. He's a very smart, brilliant, extremely smart.

874
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 3>He made a.

875
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.079
<v Speaker 4>Reel or a TikTok where he talked about he was like,

876
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 4>I identify as gay because that is the best description of

877
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.480
<v Speaker 4>what I am into sexually. He was like bisexual, pan sexual,

878
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 4>it's way too broad, like bisexual, you know, assumes fifty

879
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 4>to fifty. You could go under way, that's entirely too broad.

880
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Pan sexual. I'm like, that's also like I would be

881
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 4>so much more gay than anything else. I'm like, it's

882
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:56.199
<v Speaker 4>too broad. It's not gay identifies me best because that

883
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.360
<v Speaker 4>is the most accurate predictor of what I'm going to

884
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 4>go for with regard to sex, wonderful romance, and anything else.

885
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Perfect. If I were to be a.

886
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Plus a plus, I like to say, homo flexible, homo flexible.

887
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's good because you know there's hetero flexible.

888
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, you will do stuff with guys like you know,

889
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:20.079
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, film.

890
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what Tommy defendie.

891
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.159
<v Speaker 3>If you know who Tommy Defendi is, he refers to

892
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 3>himself as hetero flexible off to many, very very understandable.

893
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 3>And also if you look at my porn list, yeah

894
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:40.639
<v Speaker 3>it's okay. Yeah, mostly balls, just like flying. Yeah. You

895
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 3>received I definitely want to give time for this as well.

896
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 3>You received another award that was meaningful to you, the

897
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:50.239
<v Speaker 3>Advocacy Award by the Free Speech Coalition. Tell us about

898
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 3>your work with them and what that means. This is important, Yes,

899
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 3>it is very very please talk about it.

900
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.800
<v Speaker 4>So for the for the Award of x BIZ has

901
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 4>what they also they also have their Executive Award. It's

902
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 4>kind of like the companies, the people you know, behind

903
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 4>the camera, all of that kind of it's definitely awarding

904
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 4>people that have put in work to promote the overall

905
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.599
<v Speaker 4>adult industry and to promote sex workers. Pineapple Support is a.

906
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Very big one there. I know if you're familiar with

907
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>penal sport.

908
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:20.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Pineapple Support so in case anybody's listening, is a

909
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 3>mental health organization that works specifically with people in the

910
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 3>adult industry.

911
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.880
<v Speaker 4>Yes, like actively, we'll give you someone just talk to

912
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:32.000
<v Speaker 4>if you're struggling mentally and you're in the euro sex worker.

913
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Very important work. Yeah.

914
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

915
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 4>So this year the Free Speech Coalition awarded me their

916
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.760
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five Advocate Award or Advocacy Award, because over

917
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 4>the last year I've promoted them at every single turn,

918
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:48.320
<v Speaker 4>and I will promote them now. The Free Speech Coalition

919
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 4>is the they're not really a lobbying group, but they

920
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.880
<v Speaker 4>are the legal representation for sex workers like that and

921
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 4>the sex industry. The reason that we are still that

922
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 4>we actually have porn in the United States as it

923
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.519
<v Speaker 4>is now is because of the Free Speech Coalition.

924
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

925
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:05.880
<v Speaker 4>There was a case back in the two thousands called

926
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:10.199
<v Speaker 4>Free Speech Coalition versus Ashcroft, which struck down a law

927
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.920
<v Speaker 4>that like basically eliminated any kind of porn. That was

928
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 4>it kind of I forget the exact wording of the decision,

929
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:20.239
<v Speaker 4>but it was like, no, you can't restrict this because

930
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:22.679
<v Speaker 4>porn is free speech, right like porn.

931
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Is free speech.

932
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 4>You can't restrict this because that's what like and where

933
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 4>do you draw the line kind of thing on porn.

934
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 4>And so they're the ones challenging laws in state governments,

935
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 4>challenging local laws. They just recently argued in front of

936
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 4>the Supreme Court about the age verification law in Texas.

937
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.679
<v Speaker 4>And so they're the ones that are keeping us in

938
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 4>business and keeping us doing what we do. Any chance

939
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 4>I get, I am like Free Speech Coalition, please donate,

940
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:50.440
<v Speaker 4>do it, you know, become a member, become a patron.

941
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at everybody out there because that if you

942
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.440
<v Speaker 4>like what you like, you know, if you like watching

943
00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 4>us and do what we do, you know, it's really

944
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:00.840
<v Speaker 4>good to kind of keep us around. And Free Speech

945
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 4>Coalition keeps us around.

946
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, speak up for sex workers and adult performers.

947
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you've been watching it and you will continue

948
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:10.159
<v Speaker 1>to watch.

949
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

950
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>If we're gone, what are you going to jack off to? Exactly?

951
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, the biggest thing is is that if you know,

952
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:19.960
<v Speaker 4>what we do gets shut down, then places that do

953
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.119
<v Speaker 4>things illegally or things, you know, people that go into

954
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.519
<v Speaker 4>sex trafficking, things like that, it becomes less safe. It

955
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 4>becomes less safe. And that's where everybody is because the

956
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 4>demand is always going to be there. It is always

957
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 4>going to Porn is one of the top five most

958
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:39.719
<v Speaker 4>lucrative industries in the world, like oil is ahead of that, crazy, Yeah,

959
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 4>porn is one of the top five, and the demand

960
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 4>is going to be there.

961
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

962
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 4>And so but if you cut off demand where we

963
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:49.360
<v Speaker 4>do it here, we do it legally. We do it

964
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 4>with you know, bunny years, with our IDs next to

965
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 4>our faces. Hey, we consent to this. Yes, you know,

966
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 4>you take that away, it's going to be people that

967
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 4>are being sex trafficked. It's going to be people that

968
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 4>are doing it against their ill and it's going to

969
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 4>be it's not safe for anyone that's in that involved

970
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 4>in that.

971
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Considering the political climate today, do you feel personally as

972
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:12.119
<v Speaker 1>someone who's really well informed about all this stuff that

973
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 1>we are in particular higher level of danger of losing

974
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>the legality and stuff that is in place that the

975
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Free Speech Coalition is defending.

976
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, first of all, thank you for considering me very

977
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:28.159
<v Speaker 4>informed of it. I appreciate that I have that aura

978
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:28.800
<v Speaker 4>about me.

979
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 1>You literally won the Advocacy Award.

980
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to remain humble, everyone humble and sexy.

981
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:41.599
<v Speaker 1>I do not think that we are in danger of

982
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 1>losing it. We are in danger of having restrictions placed

983
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>on it.

984
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Sure the in certain places.

985
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 4>No, at some point I think it will be nationally,

986
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:54.679
<v Speaker 4>they'll have age verification law is put in place. You know,

987
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 4>I looked at the transcript from the Free Speech Coalition v.

988
00:44:57.920 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Paxton.

989
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:02.519
<v Speaker 4>That's the Texas age verification law. The Supreme Court, like,

990
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, because it's a highly conservative Supreme Court. Now,

991
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 4>they were like they realized that porn is free speech,

992
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 4>and you can't you know, you can't say that porn

993
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 4>is illegal because it's just not. But they are open

994
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:18.559
<v Speaker 4>to the idea of keeping it out of the reach

995
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:22.320
<v Speaker 4>of children, which no one in the adult industry is

996
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 4>arguing for that.

997
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So on, this is interesting to me. Because on paper,

998
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to like a conservative mother in Kentucky or somewhere, you know,

999
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 1>if you just see they're trying to implement age verification.

1000
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Obviously on paper, it's like, well I want that.

1001
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:41.960
<v Speaker 3>What is it about this that is actually dangerous to

1002
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.440
<v Speaker 3>the industry, Like explain a little bit.

1003
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:48.119
<v Speaker 2>More people are afraid that it's like giving their information

1004
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and sharing it. If they type in their birthday and you've.

1005
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Got to upload a picture.

1006
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Of your Yeah, yeah, they don't know where that goes.

1007
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>We don't know where that goes.

1008
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Are you saying there's a risk that if the age

1009
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:04.119
<v Speaker 3>very vocation process is more involved, we would lose more business, correct?

1010
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.559
<v Speaker 3>I see, yeah, because less and less people would be

1011
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.320
<v Speaker 3>open to sharing their information to view such things.

1012
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Got it. So it's a privacy situation, huge privacy issuet

1013
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 1>because what these governments are doing, what the state governments

1014
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:21.039
<v Speaker 1>are doing, is they're trying to implement a third party

1015
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 1>verification system which is open to hacking, easily open to hacking.

1016
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 1>So if you if your thing is I want to

1017
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 1>watch you know, crazy porn of like bananas getting fired

1018
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>off into someone's asshole, you know, which does probably exist,

1019
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>So you put your information in there as this is

1020
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>what you're viewing, this is what you're trying to access,

1021
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 1>that could be hacked and then it could be used

1022
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>against you. It could be you like and it could

1023
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 1>be even used against you in a background check as well. Yeah,

1024
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and so like it's the it's a massive privacy issue.

1025
00:46:54.480 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>But also if you implement verification laws like Florida, Texas, Utah,

1026
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other states that I can't to Tennessee,

1027
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>like porn hub has already shut down business in those

1028
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 1>states because they're like went dark. Wow, it just went

1029
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 1>completely dark.

1030
00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>And so it's and there's a message saying to support

1031
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 2>like free speech instead of that. I just watched the story.

1032
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Where where'd you find it?

1033
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 2>It was just on it was just on like ABC.

1034
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like what I have when I it's a big

1035
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 2>news item.

1036
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, because a lot of people in Florida are

1037
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 4>pretty pissed off about it, as they should be good

1038
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:31.079
<v Speaker 4>to know.

1039
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's like and it's like, yes, to protect people

1040
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:41.400
<v Speaker 2>under eighteen, we have to make everybody else risk their privacy. Like,

1041
00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 2>so that's the problem. They need there needs to be

1042
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>away without having to share all your information to keep

1043
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 2>kids safe and watch your porn and like it's just

1044
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.320
<v Speaker 2>a really it's a Gordian knot.

1045
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what a.

1046
00:47:58.400 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Gordian solvable problem.

1047
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.559
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that before. It has taught me something new.

1048
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought there was something in BDSUND. I mean it

1049
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 1>can be.

1050
00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Figure out this puzzle or a Gordian not starring Derek

1051
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Cage figure out this puzzle, or you get the dildo.

1052
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah cool.

1053
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you so much for your work with that

1054
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 3>and for sharing with our audiences and with us what

1055
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 3>you know about it.

1056
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>What is next for Derek Cage? I mean there's so

1057
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 1>much going on, Like how much do I give away

1058
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 1>at this point? Sure, what's left?

1059
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:34.719
<v Speaker 4>I know, Like since I since I just signed it

1060
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 4>that agency, you know, I'm just going to be doing

1061
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 4>everything that I can to you and actively be able

1062
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 4>to be like a gay man can do this too,

1063
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, it's it's another frontier for a gay

1064
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.119
<v Speaker 4>man to be, Like I'm if they want to, if

1065
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.960
<v Speaker 4>they want to, yeah, exactly, Like it's the opportunities there,

1066
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:51.599
<v Speaker 4>so I definitely.

1067
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Want to do that.

1068
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 4>I want to give more advocate obviously advocacy for free speech,

1069
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 4>coalition in the sex worker industry in general, and let's

1070
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 4>just say I'm actively working on something that I'm going

1071
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<v Speaker 4>to tell my story. Awesome, man, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 4>give too much away, but like going to tell my

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<v Speaker 4>full story.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally support that. I feel like we're all kind

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<v Speaker 3>of doing versions of that. It's just like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think these stories are important. This is why we

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<v Speaker 3>started this podcast in the first place, is to have

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<v Speaker 3>people who are in this industry or around this industry

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<v Speaker 3>share what it's like, what got us here, how we're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>what we're doing with it, the good, the bad, the ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The real the real boo love that. Yes, cool.

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<v Speaker 3>This was like the fastest fifty minutes of my life. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like it, just like flew By, You're

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<v Speaker 3>a joy, a joy to talk to, is always Derek.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations on a lot of sccess. Yes, crushing it, crushing

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<v Speaker 3>it with a smile like you. I don't there hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>you know a lot of times a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>we have on this, on this podcast or just that

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<v Speaker 3>we talked to, like there's struggle. There's moments like where

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<v Speaker 3>like it's just like what am I doing? How much

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<v Speaker 3>longer have I got? And I just I don't get

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<v Speaker 3>any sense of that. Do you ever feel that way?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, no, I'm great.

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<v Speaker 4>I will do this as long as my body allows

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<v Speaker 4>me and as long as studios book me. I love

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<v Speaker 4>what I do and I will like I hope to

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<v Speaker 4>be one of those ones when I'm like old and croshety.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just being like that was me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, now I'm the old coomer.

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<v Speaker 1>Still coming though. Awesome, but thank you for that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that I exude. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>The happiness and success that I've had has just been

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<v Speaker 4>such a like it's gonna sound cliche as fun, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's been a blessing that's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, two more joy in the industry. I love

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<v Speaker 3>that and joy? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Cool? Did I miss anything there? Anything else you want

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<v Speaker 1>to share? Anything you want to plug? Nothing that I

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<v Speaker 1>can think to plug or share. I guess we covered

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of grounds.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we did. I'm like fast, we're like sharp.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, Oh totally yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, when it's raining and cold outside, Yes, we've got this.

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<v Speaker 1>The coffee is kicked in, ready to go. Awesome. When

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<v Speaker 1>do you leave town? I'm literally going driving back to

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas as soon as I was.

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<v Speaker 3>So happy we caught you in your last moments and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see you next time you're in town. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for rescheduling me, oh my god, no, thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>being flexible as well. Yeah, and thank you guys so

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<v Speaker 3>much for watching. And thank you Cold Connor for what

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for just being your smiley, sweet self best

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<v Speaker 3>host out.

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<v Speaker 2>Up on the good side of the bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Same. I feel it cool, And thank you Derek, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you everybody. We love you. My name is Adam Ramsey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Cold Connor. This has been sorry for asking, see

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<v Speaker 3>you next time. Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been sorry for asking. Be sure to like,

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<v Speaker 2>comment and subscribe, and until next time, stay sexy.
