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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Not looking good for Memphis, not looking good for the

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<v Speaker 2>last leg of my three leg parlay and the other

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<v Speaker 2>parlay I've put together for the second wave of games

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<v Speaker 2>in the early afternoon. Not up to a great start.

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<v Speaker 2>This Saint Mary's team, you know, weird and something you

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<v Speaker 2>typically don't You don't say about Vandy, but it just

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<v Speaker 2>looks as like Vanderbilt has a real superior edge when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to just talent. I mean, again, I know

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<v Speaker 2>they're in the SEC, but I mean we're talking about Vanderbilt.

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<v Speaker 2>But now they're up twenty four to sixteen with four

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and twenty seconds left in the first half. So

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<v Speaker 2>I I mean, Vandy. You know, they were one of

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<v Speaker 2>the teams that ended up being seated, probably better than

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<v Speaker 2>they anticipated. I mean, I felt like they were more

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<v Speaker 2>of a I don't know, they're ten seeds. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's about fair. But nonetheless, anything that they did to

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<v Speaker 2>make them a tournament team is even consideration. It all

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<v Speaker 2>took place in Memorial Coliseum, and that made me think that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, neutral site, they're going to be the Vandy

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<v Speaker 2>when they're they're not at home, and that Vandy team

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<v Speaker 2>has not been real impressive, but they're off to a

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<v Speaker 2>good start here, no doubt, and Saint Mary's can certainly

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<v Speaker 2>come back and win. It's early. But what you have

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<v Speaker 2>to consider is there are teams that play and it's

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<v Speaker 2>really not even about like I mean, yes, they're both

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, but it's not necessarily it's just their

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<v Speaker 2>identity as a team. So like, if you could turn

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<v Speaker 2>it up and play different styles and do different things,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes you great, especially if you're a good team.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's certain teams that their identity and what they

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<v Speaker 2>do and them doing it well kind of makes them

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<v Speaker 2>the team you would be worried about, and that's Saint Mary's.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that it's they've already dug themselves a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Mary's is not a team that typically would be

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<v Speaker 2>built to kind of dig out of a hole. And

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<v Speaker 2>Vandy's the kind of team I feel like when they

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<v Speaker 2>get hot, they get hot. But we got a minute

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<v Speaker 2>fifty left in the Colorado State Memphis game, and Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>State is up is up nine, so Memphis looks like

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<v Speaker 2>they're done and you know, that's what I get for

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<v Speaker 2>betting on Memphis. And but the first time since yesterday evening,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of going back to the I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say the sadness, but it's really not even I mean

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<v Speaker 2>getting louis A lost yesterday to Creighton, and I I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Creighton was better they if they I mean from

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<v Speaker 2>what we saw yesterday. If these teams play in a series,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you were saying that you believe Lowell

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<v Speaker 2>would win, I think it would be just based off

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<v Speaker 2>wishful thinking, right because Crayton was better really in every way,

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<v Speaker 2>could have done things better. Louisll didn't have rain Smith

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<v Speaker 2>and all that. I mean, so, but but I just

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis getting the five. It didn't make sense. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the committee, there's a lot of complaints

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<v Speaker 2>about certain things. Absolutely the biggest talking point was that

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina got it in West Virginia didn't. But that's not

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<v Speaker 2>even really something that comes down to, like, there's really

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<v Speaker 2>no comparison as far as how you put the last

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<v Speaker 2>four in the last four teams that make that may

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<v Speaker 2>you know, last four in that end up in those

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<v Speaker 2>playing games the eleven seeds in Dayton, there's a pool

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<v Speaker 2>of teams that are kind of all in the same category.

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<v Speaker 2>The committee just decides and then they have to justify

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<v Speaker 2>why they made those decisions. And again with Carolina, they

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<v Speaker 2>really couldn't justify it. Carolina getting in over West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that could make any sense of it

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<v Speaker 2>was in fact that the chairman of the committee was

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<v Speaker 2>the athletic director in North Carolina. So what I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>at is, despite all of the complaining that we did,

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<v Speaker 2>and really there's complaints everywhere, I'm sure as far as

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<v Speaker 2>seeding and that kind of stuff, the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make any sense as far as consistency was Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>being seeded where they were right Like Clemson getting a

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<v Speaker 2>five clearly didn't look great. Now Carolina getting in, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they won, but again we just discussed why a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people think they got in. What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel even more I guess comfortable in saying

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<v Speaker 2>it without sounding like a lunatic, that I could be

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<v Speaker 2>more more now than ever I could be convinced that

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<v Speaker 2>they just made a goof and put Memphis where Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be, and they just got it, got

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<v Speaker 2>they got it mixed up. You would ask like, how

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<v Speaker 2>does that happen? Well, also, how does Louisville being an

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<v Speaker 2>eight seed getting a home game happen? Probably by mistake, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what eight seeds getting a home game? Eight seeds

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<v Speaker 2>are usually lucky to get the invite. And who knows

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<v Speaker 2>if louisll would have played Colorida State instead of Memphis,

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<v Speaker 2>no clue what happened. But I also know that this

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<v Speaker 2>Creighton team that Louisville lost to yesterday, I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>Creton team, not only do they have I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have any real bad loss outside of one

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<v Speaker 2>that's the Georgetown. But that's to a conference opponent, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's not like a loss to a team in the

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<v Speaker 2>three hundreds. They beat Saint John's one of four teams

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. And they also have a third team

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<v Speaker 2>All American who is a different kind of opponent because

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<v Speaker 2>of like Craig's a different opponent because of that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter who you are or how good you are,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a good chance you're gonna have some adjustments to

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<v Speaker 2>your identity because more often than not, you aren't ever

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<v Speaker 2>facing somebody like that. And it's not to say that

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<v Speaker 2>he's the best player in the country. He's just different.

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<v Speaker 2>Right like you saw it yesterday, Creighton can can be

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<v Speaker 2>half assed defensively from the perimeter and let guys get

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<v Speaker 2>loose because they have that rim protector. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a wise thing to do if you're Creton, to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, and it worked out well with them yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, Sarah Grapes, of course, you know, sore loser

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. I get it. I'm sure that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like here. But Memphis getting a five is

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<v Speaker 2>the least talked about thing from the committee that never

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<v Speaker 2>made any sense. Yes, they did have a good record.

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<v Speaker 2>They won their league, but they won a one bid league.

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<v Speaker 2>They also had two losses to teams that you know

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<v Speaker 2>were I mean, I think they were Quad three, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know Louisville losing makes it seem like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>they got it right. I don't think they did. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they missed. I think they messed up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they made and made it. I think they made a goof,

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<v Speaker 2>not a mistake by just a decision. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a goof because Clemson being seated as a five,

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina being in in Louisville, being the eight where they

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<v Speaker 2>were and Memphis being like it just doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you go compare, I'm not gonna do it

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<v Speaker 2>now because you know, we don't need to invest more

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<v Speaker 2>time than we already have. But if you just go

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<v Speaker 2>look at every team where they seated them in those

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<v Speaker 2>ranges of five and eight, and you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>profile the numbers that they you know that they pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention to, that's the one that just it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>they just mixed them up. And again, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>that to think we should still be playing, but to

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<v Speaker 2>see Memphis lose to Colorado State at twelve seed, who

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, had to really go on a run

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<v Speaker 2>in their conference tournament to get in. And the Mountain

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<v Speaker 2>West sucks. I mean San Diego State they gotta be

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<v Speaker 2>about forty to Carolina. Who else in the Mountain West

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<v Speaker 2>is even alive? Utah State, they were really good in

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<v Speaker 2>the Mountain West, got their ass kicked last night by

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<v Speaker 2>a very mid Mick cro and UCLA team. I'm not bitter,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just more so not convinced either. I now, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I go back to what I said when I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to use my words carefully there, I'm now less uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>in saying that they might have just made a mistake

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<v Speaker 2>as far as how they put it together. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just because of the Louisville seed line. It's because

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<v Speaker 2>of Memphis's seed line as well as Louisville being an

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<v Speaker 2>eight seed with a home court game yesterday. That's also

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<v Speaker 2>something that we didn't really talk a whole lot about yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of in the moment of it being over,

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<v Speaker 2>not a whole lot of you know, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>ride is really what we discussed and this team having

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<v Speaker 2>them fall short and really what specifically led to them

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<v Speaker 2>having a tough time against Creighton. But it was a

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<v Speaker 2>home game yesterday, and that makes it even more tough

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with, right because you had a home court

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<v Speaker 2>advantage and you still really, I mean, you never I

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<v Speaker 2>mean outside of the first two segments, right after the

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<v Speaker 2>first two media timeouts, I kind of feel like it

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't didn't seem as if louisv was going to win.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, that's that's an added you know, bummer for

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<v Speaker 2>those that made the trip to RUP and then to

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<v Speaker 2>see that happen. But I also want to acknowledge just

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<v Speaker 2>the overall vibe that was there the send off at

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<v Speaker 2>the hotel that was insane, the amount of people that

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<v Speaker 2>were there at noon on a Thursday, Like it fell short,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's never what Louisville wants. We don't just want

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<v Speaker 2>to make the tournament and say that we're happy to

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<v Speaker 2>be there, but with perspective included, like this was a

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<v Speaker 2>season that did bring us back to life and what

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<v Speaker 2>I keep, you know, thinking about, and I shouldn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hammer it home, because I think a lot of folks

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<v Speaker 2>probably understand and it doesn't need to be overstated. But

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<v Speaker 2>we went through a season this year with Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>in year on one, and we made humongous leaps as

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<v Speaker 2>far as they get back, right. I mean, Louisville started

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<v Speaker 2>this week as a top ten team in the eight people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't look at Louisville losing to Creighton as

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of a sign that they were never any good. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you can make of it what you want. Everybody can

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<v Speaker 2>make their own opinion that kind of stuff. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we made a huge step forward after a few disastrous years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still feel great about where Louisville's going moving forward,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna be fun. I now, I now have

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<v Speaker 2>a season of Pat Kelsey here, there's been proof of

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<v Speaker 2>concept to where when we look at who he gets

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<v Speaker 2>in the portal, we're gonna be able to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I know the way Pat Kelsey coaches, I've seen what

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<v Speaker 2>he can do. This guy's gonna be this guy's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a perfect fit. I mean, in the reality is

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<v Speaker 2>you never truly know. But my point is last year

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<v Speaker 2>he put together a good roster and we were just

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<v Speaker 2>happy with mostly anybody because hey, this guy, Terrence Edwards,

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<v Speaker 2>he's Mountain West player of the some up player of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. Hell yeah, will take him. I mean, Cason

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<v Speaker 2>Pryor was a guy from South Florida. That what made

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<v Speaker 2>him intriguing is we knew how badly everybody else wanted him.

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas's dropping bags. Villanova feels like he could be the

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<v Speaker 2>added piece for them, cal at Arkansas got in the mix,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we got him. And then of course you

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<v Speaker 2>watch highlights, you look at his numbers and you feel

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<v Speaker 2>good and then you realize, hey, he picked us over them.

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<v Speaker 2>He must be you know, the other photo schools are

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<v Speaker 2>prioritizing him. He must be pretty good. Corn Johnson six

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<v Speaker 2>Man of the Year in the in the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, all these all these guys were it was

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<v Speaker 2>easy to be excited about for a couple of reasons. One,

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't mention there, but I mean, obviously we

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<v Speaker 2>So who knows who they end up getting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously there's a lot of talk out there right now

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<v Speaker 2>about Louisville and what they're gonna spend in nil. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if any of that's real or not. Be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, I shouldn't say that, like there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way that's real. But if the reports are true that

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville is will is looking to be spending eight to

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<v Speaker 2>ten million dollars for the roster next season, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be great. I just don't really know how

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<v Speaker 2>much I see that as being like realistic, because that

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<v Speaker 2>would be spending more than anybody spends, which hey, we do,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we do care about basketball as much as anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly more than the vast majority of programs. So I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that's the case. But I'm already to the point

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<v Speaker 2>now where you've got you got your freshman point guard

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<v Speaker 2>who is a top ten guy. I mean, mock drafts

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<v Speaker 2>already have Mark Hel. Why do I keep forgetting his

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<v Speaker 2>name Mikel Brown? Okay, I keep wanting to say Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Kel Brown, And that's a real person. He played college

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<v Speaker 2>basketball and was really really good, but it was many

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, so that I mean Mikel Markel clearly different

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<v Speaker 2>names easy to get mixed up. I got to get

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<v Speaker 2>it figured out because Mikel Brown junior is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the highest ranked kids that have ever committed to Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>so I should get familiar with his name. And you

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<v Speaker 2>can clearly Nil was a factor in his decision. But

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<v Speaker 2>now there's talk that NATAMNT is still viewed to be

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<v Speaker 2>most likely committing to Louisville when that decision is made

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<v Speaker 2>because of one Louisville staff, and clearly there's a strong

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<v Speaker 2>connection there, but also money. And I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say this and it sound like I'm complaining about anything

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<v Speaker 2>because nobody know. I mean, who knows if they get

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<v Speaker 2>NATA men who knows who they get in the portal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so early, but I am absolutely one thousand percent

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<v Speaker 2>in the camp of if we have a big pool

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<v Speaker 2>the entire bit of it spent on portal rather than freshmen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know the freshmen stars. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of flash, a lot of sizzle, because everybody wants the

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<v Speaker 2>best players in the country. If louisvill gets Native Man,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be getting him from really. I mean, he's the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who can pick where he wants to go to school.

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<v Speaker 2>They can go where he once So Louisa geting him

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<v Speaker 2>would be a real big statement in the recruiting world,

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<v Speaker 2>and clearly you would have a gift when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to talent. But you'd have him one year. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know every player you should just consider to be a

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<v Speaker 2>one year rental because guys can leave and go wherever

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<v Speaker 2>they want, they can transfer as many times. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just I think this year you are able to see

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<v Speaker 2>the value you get in grown ass men that a

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<v Speaker 2>laid a lot of college basketball, and also you know

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<v Speaker 2>that are good. Now, if you get these two guys

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<v Speaker 2>and you got prior back, you get Koren back, you

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<v Speaker 2>get Javon back, Let's say you get I mean, could

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<v Speaker 2>I you get him back? I mean that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a great I mean, that would be a good balance,

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<v Speaker 2>a good mixture of Okay, you've got some veterans who

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of guys, we know how good they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Ali Khalif is somebody who hadn't played, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he'll fit. Really He'll have a role that is

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<v Speaker 2>very important, and that role will be crucial to Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's team. So again, I'm not anti paying whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>got to get to get the best talent, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just think moving forward, how you use your money is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be It's going to become a new element

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<v Speaker 2>of how we cover and talk college basketball, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. Because when you look at Kansas, they had

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<v Speaker 2>the most expensive roster in college basketball this year and

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds like it wasn't close. So with that, they

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<v Speaker 2>lose last night to Arkansas, a ten seed, in a

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<v Speaker 2>game that like you know, Kansas had no momentum for

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<v Speaker 2>like the last six weeks two months of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was never because of talent. Same thing with

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana and he didn't make the tournament. Mike Woodson, he

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<v Speaker 2>apparently had these second or third most expensive roster in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball. So having money is great. What you do

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<v Speaker 2>with the money and how your investments look down the

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<v Speaker 2>line is what it all comes down to. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>I think at times impossible to know. It was impossible

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<v Speaker 2>for Kansas to think they'd be this bad, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't know. There's always going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>role of the dice. You don't know. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we do know, in the early stages of

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<v Speaker 2>this new world that is pro sports but not called

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<v Speaker 2>pro sports, your wiser investments are on experienced players who've

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<v Speaker 2>shown what they can do more so than a freshman

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<v Speaker 2>in high school. Now again, with all that said, if

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville Ed's dropping the bags to get Michel Mikel bro,

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<v Speaker 2>Mikel Brown, McHale m and now now I'm in my

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<v Speaker 2>head about how to say Mikel Mikel Brown almost like

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Mikel Mikel Brown junior and Nata men. If anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you can at least say, well, we didn't just pay

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<v Speaker 2>for a kid that had some offers. We paid for

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<v Speaker 2>two top ten players in the country. So again you

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<v Speaker 2>could say money is well spent there, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have a good supporting cast around them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, no better example this year than Rutgers. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know Rutgers doesn't have any like winning DNA, but

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<v Speaker 2>also Rutgers has two guys that put up big numbers

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<v Speaker 2>this year that were two of the top three players

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<v Speaker 2>in the country. And you know, I mean they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't even I mean they were they were an

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<v Speaker 2>average team. And that's a comp that that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a stretch to say. So if you can have two

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<v Speaker 2>of the top three freshmen in the country that are

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<v Speaker 2>not only putting up numbers that prove they were justifiably

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<v Speaker 2>ranked where they were ranked, they're also going to be

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<v Speaker 2>drafted in the top five, both of them, which again

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<v Speaker 2>proves that like nobody can claim there's anything that shows

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<v Speaker 2>these guys weren't as good as build, but that is

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<v Speaker 2>you got to have a lot more than just that

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<v Speaker 2>to win in this day and age. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything, the biggest factor in why and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the biggest change in college basketball as I

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<v Speaker 2>watched the tournament and really just watch it all year,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not about the ability to just you know, build

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<v Speaker 2>your I mean Again, clear there's a lot of changes

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<v Speaker 2>that have led to college basketball just being different now.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I believe has been really really under valued,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess maybe not even as recognizable as I

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<v Speaker 2>see it, is that there are so many guys that

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<v Speaker 2>are playing four or five or as many years as

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<v Speaker 2>they can at college basketball that before the Portalan, before

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<v Speaker 2>in IL, they would just call it a career and say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never going to go to the NBA. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to leave college and go play overseas while I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>twenty or twenty one years old. Like older. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are certain dudes who are clearly are way too

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<v Speaker 2>old to be playing college basketball, it seems, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>because of the COVID year and all that stuff, the waivers.

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<v Speaker 2>But if every player played, every player that wasn't surely

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<v Speaker 2>an NBA guy played every year possible as far as

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<v Speaker 2>eligibility in college. If that was just the way it

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<v Speaker 2>was for the last twenty years, we'd have a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of dudes playing college basketball that are twenty three and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. Well, you don't realize is that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these guys come out of high school. They were

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<v Speaker 2>held back a year, they did a year of prep,

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<v Speaker 2>prep school, postgrad or maybe they did both, and they

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<v Speaker 2>enter college as twenty year old freshmen. So again, some

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<v Speaker 2>of the dudes that are playing on six years is

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<v Speaker 2>because of the pandemic. Sure, Judeco stipulation, that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's the biggest change that because again, if you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me give you some guys that that that would

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<v Speaker 2>give you three names for three names of Louisville basketball players,

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<v Speaker 2>they just simply moved on because of what the world

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<v Speaker 2>used to be in college troops. Terrence Jennings, Remember Terrence Jennings,

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<v Speaker 2>guy left early, knew he wasn't gonna be drafted, but

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<v Speaker 2>what else was he going to do in college? Smarto

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<v Speaker 2>Samuels played two years, just left because you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta I gotta maximize me at twenty rather than me

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty two. I don't want to be in college

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<v Speaker 2>for two years. Yeah, I'll be playing for an elite program,

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<v Speaker 2>but I ain't making no money. Jalen Johnson b J King.

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<v Speaker 2>BJ King wasn't a great player, but again, like he

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<v Speaker 2>would have transferred out of Louisville and got money to

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<v Speaker 2>go somewhere else because he was a five starring out

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<v Speaker 2>until American, right, like I mean, so, that to me

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<v Speaker 2>is the most I guess influential change in college basketball

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<v Speaker 2>that just doesn't seem to get mentioned by a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people is that there were so many guys that

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<v Speaker 2>you've never heard of, that you didn't know, didn't care about,

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<v Speaker 2>because they weren't on the NBA radar, they didn't play

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<v Speaker 2>for elite teams, they weren't all Americans, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>good college players, and they just decided, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>go make money. Well, now their best beat to make

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<v Speaker 2>money is to stay in school. All right, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to get to a break way too late. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick with us at is Coffee and Company, and we

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 2>My buddy Andy, he texted me. He's a good friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine who listens to the show. He lives in

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. He's from a louis a big Louisville fan,

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<v Speaker 2>and he made a good point. I didn't even noticed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not watching his club because you know, I'm hosting

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<v Speaker 2>the show, but seeing Drey Davis in Jalen Withers plage

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<v Speaker 2>against each other in the NSAA tournament for obviously other

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<v Speaker 2>teams when they haven't played here in a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them, it is just another reminder of, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jalen is a sixty year senior because he

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<v Speaker 2>believe Dre is a fifth year guy that just took

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of the COVID rule. But because of how I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this felt like a new world for Louisville basketball this

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<v Speaker 2>year because it was based off of you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>previous really the last three and a half years or

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<v Speaker 2>so four years. I mean, it feels like those guys

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<v Speaker 2>in college. So yeah, and right now it's it's Drey

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<v Speaker 2>and I. Austin and I were talking before the show

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<v Speaker 2>other night. And I've never once doubted Carolina's talent, but

417
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<v Speaker 2>also ole Miss. They're one of those teams that I

418
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<v Speaker 2>feel like they you know, they're not where they are

419
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<v Speaker 2>because they're just loaded, they're well coached, they're tough, and

420
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<v Speaker 2>they're good, clearly, But it just came down to me

421
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<v Speaker 2>thinking Carolina could still come back. There's a lot of

422
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<v Speaker 2>ball left. I just feel like I had to remind

423
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<v Speaker 2>myself of who Carolina was because they showed us all

424
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<v Speaker 2>year who they were, and Ole Miss is just a

425
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<v Speaker 2>better team and they're showing that. They're showing that right

426
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:47.440
<v Speaker 2>now now. The other game that I that I'm in

427
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<v Speaker 2>on in the second wave at half is not great

428
00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:53.119
<v Speaker 2>because Saint Mary's is down seven twenty nine to twenty

429
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<v Speaker 2>twos to score at half against Fandy. Still hanging around

430
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<v Speaker 2>they are, but I just I feel like they've got

431
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<v Speaker 2>to start. Here's my thing is they've got a I

432
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<v Speaker 2>got him at minus four and a half, which I

433
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<v Speaker 2>should So you took the spread too, Yeah I should have. Okay,

434
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<v Speaker 2>I just took him. Yeah I should have taken mL

435
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<v Speaker 2>but I just I have confidence in Saint Mary's and

436
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:17.039
<v Speaker 2>I have very little in Vandy. But Vandy again, they

437
00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:20.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like they are a team that whenever you feel like,

438
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:25.799
<v Speaker 2>all right, cute story, Vandy's not dead. They made the tournament,

439
00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:28.279
<v Speaker 2>but they're also still Vandy, and they're gonna get humbled.

440
00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so far, it just looks as if Vandy's

441
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<v Speaker 2>been able to score enough that it's made Saint Mary's,

442
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:37.039
<v Speaker 2>and Saint Mary's would be fine winning a game first

443
00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.559
<v Speaker 2>to thirty, and so far this game has already gotten

444
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<v Speaker 2>off to a start in the first half to where

445
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Saint Mary's going to have to get comfortable playing not

446
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<v Speaker 2>necessarily fast, but if they can't trade baskets at this

447
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<v Speaker 2>point because they're not built offensively to go on big runs.

448
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<v Speaker 2>So all right, a couple of things to get hit

449
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<v Speaker 2>on here in our second segment in the four o'clock hour,

450
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<v Speaker 2>doyone to remind you that this is coffee company, and

451
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<v Speaker 2>we at feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven

452
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<v Speaker 2>ninety Nick Coffee. That's me the tribal chief, as to

453
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<v Speaker 2>Montgomery alongside producing this afternoon and day two of a

454
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<v Speaker 2>two day stretch where I believe it is the best

455
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<v Speaker 2>that we get in sports, especially for those that love

456
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<v Speaker 2>college basketball. And Louisville losing yesterday sucked, but I'm feeling

457
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<v Speaker 2>still very very good about Louislle basketball overall what happened

458
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.519
<v Speaker 2>this year, where we're going to where that I'm not

459
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even I'm not salty about watching the rest

460
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<v Speaker 2>of the tournament. But a couple of things Kentucky plays

461
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.839
<v Speaker 2>done against Troy, and I can't lie to you and

462
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<v Speaker 2>say that I feel like Troy is a team that

463
00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:43.920
<v Speaker 2>that really, you know, can exploit where Kentucky's vulnerable because

464
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<v Speaker 2>I just I just don't believe that. Also, I don't

465
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<v Speaker 2>know enough about Troy to even say that if I

466
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to believe it. But overall, if you're Kentucky, I'm

467
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.240
<v Speaker 2>curious as far as like what your what your feel

468
00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>slash vibe is for the first weekend because you got

469
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<v Speaker 2>three seed, you're playing a fourteen seed, and you are

470
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:09.240
<v Speaker 2>expected to win eighty two to seventy going off of

471
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<v Speaker 2>the Ken Palm. The spread in your game is eleven

472
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and a half, like you should win. I doubt that

473
00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.039
<v Speaker 2>you're sweating and nervous about losing and I and I

474
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:20.279
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be either. So I'm not trying to like say

475
00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.559
<v Speaker 2>that you should be worried. But when you wait to

476
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 2>see your team on the dance floor and you look

477
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:30.039
<v Speaker 2>at what's played out since the tournament started, basing it

478
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:34.400
<v Speaker 2>off of other teams you've played that kind of stuff,

479
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would be a little bit more nervous

480
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.119
<v Speaker 2>now than I was twenty four hours ago, because take

481
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 2>tore out of the equation. You know, Kentucky, like the

482
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>last win they had that anybody would claim was like

483
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.759
<v Speaker 2>a win that did in fact confirm their seed line

484
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 2>was when they went on the road and beat Missouri,

485
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:58.160
<v Speaker 2>who at the time, Missouri was like a top fifteen

486
00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>team I think top twenty teams certainly, And Kentucky went

487
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:03.759
<v Speaker 2>down there and won, and they didn't have Butler. I

488
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>don't think they did. Maybe they did, I'm not sure.

489
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they did, but they didn't have I

490
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:09.039
<v Speaker 2>don't think they had Butler. I know they didn't have

491
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Robinson and they went and won at Missouri. Well, Missouri,

492
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:17.079
<v Speaker 2>they ended up really kind of bowing out like Missouri

493
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day. They had a win

494
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 2>against Kansas earlier this year that didn't look nearly as

495
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>valuable in the end as it did when it happened.

496
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>They had that rare win against Florida, and I guess

497
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.640
<v Speaker 2>they're winn against Alabama was valuable, But like Missouri to

498
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.440
<v Speaker 2>close out the season February twenty second on, they only

499
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.480
<v Speaker 2>beat South Carolina and then Mississippi State in the first

500
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:44.799
<v Speaker 2>game of the SEC Tournament. Mississippi State, as an eight seed,

501
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.759
<v Speaker 2>has now lost in the tournament. Missouri again lost to Drake.

502
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>So that doesn't prove anything about who you are, but

503
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>signs of optimi, signs, you know, signs of optimism as

504
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 2>you head into the actual Instabralay tournament. I don't really

505
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:01.079
<v Speaker 2>know where they are for Kentucky because again as Kentucky

506
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:05.640
<v Speaker 2>wrapped up their season, they beat Oklahoma on the road

507
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.079
<v Speaker 2>and then they beat Oklahoma in the tournament. They needed

508
00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>buzzer beaters to do both. I don't think anybody would

509
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>try to sell you right now that Oklahoma's very good.

510
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>They got beat by thirty against Alabama. Alabama nearly lost

511
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 2>to Robert Morris today, and that's not really an exaggeration.

512
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Alabama needed the final segment of the game to in

513
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 2>fact pull away to where they didn't lose. I mean

514
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>they I mean it was a close game really throughout

515
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and again LSU they beat them by a billion, but

516
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>LSU awful. So you got to go back to the

517
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee win at home, which again still counts. Hell, you

518
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 2>could say that's a reason to be optimistic. You beat Tennessee,

519
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>who's really good, but having Tennessee's number, I kind of

520
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 2>feel like in the back half of the you know,

521
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 2>from let's say from January on, and I don't even

522
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>really know if that's even worth mentioning because at that

523
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 2>point Kentucky was a different team. When they played Florida

524
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and beat them and RUP they had everybody other than

525
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>kerk Creasa. So they beat Mississippi State on the road.

526
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State. Again, I'm not saying they were incorrectly added

527
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 2>to the tournament or incorrectly seated, but the value that

528
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>was deserving on the resume based off of the conference

529
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>being loaded did not play out for them in the

530
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 2>NCAA tournament. And even then you had a healthy I

531
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>mean Jackson Robinson I think went for like thirty in

532
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that game. So you beat A and M at home.

533
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>That was a good win, certainly but then you lost.

534
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Obama lost to Andy, beat Tennessee, and Knoxville lost to

535
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>cal in Arkansas, got killed by Ole, Miss at Ole,

536
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 2>miss beat South Carolina, who sucks. Then again big valuable

537
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>win against Tennessee, lost to Texas on the road, who

538
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>got in the playing game and lost. Beat Vandy at home,

539
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 2>lost to Alabama, beat Oklahoma on the road, got smoked

540
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>by Auburn, beat a bad LSU team, beat Missouri, then

541
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 2>beat Oklahoma in the SEC tournament, both buzzer beaters needed

542
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 2>to beat Oklahoma, and then you lost to Alabama by thirty.

543
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 2>I just they're not going to get upset tonight. It'd

544
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.319
<v Speaker 2>be a real shocker if that actually happens. But I

545
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 2>think the SEC's early results and I'm not saying that

546
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>there's anything that proves the league was a fraud or cause. Again,

547
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>the teams that are losing, I mean, I guess Missouri

548
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>losing as a six is the first bad look, But

549
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.160
<v Speaker 2>like it was in eight to nine with miss if

550
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.039
<v Speaker 2>you stay losing to Baylor Texas was a play in game.

551
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Who else is lost in the SEC? I feel like

552
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm missing somebody. I mean, Vandy's off to a good

553
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>start against Sint Mary's. But long story short, I think

554
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:19.319
<v Speaker 2>the early results from the SEC take underwhelming Georgia out

555
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>of it. Yeah, Georgia got killed. Who beat Kentucky by

556
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>the way, when Kentucky was a full strength. So what

557
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting at is that I just think the belief

558
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 2>that you could lose as many games as Kentucky lost

559
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>because look, they went ten and eight in their league

560
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.759
<v Speaker 2>when you look at I mean because of how their conference.

561
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Think I mean again, because of how their conference works.

562
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>They don't have any non conference games past January. So no,

563
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>they went ten and eight in their last eighteen, with

564
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>some losses to clearly teams that aren't great, losses to

565
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 2>teams that you know are great, but the majority of

566
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 2>their wins, especially after the Law, after the win against Florida,

567
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>whenever they were fully healthy. Like what I just think,

568
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>if you're Kentucky and you wanted to be worried about

569
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>your team, the opportunities there, because when you can go

570
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>ten and eight in your league and get a three seed,

571
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>it's based off you would think that it's because your

572
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>league is great and your league was great, but to

573
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>see how the rest of your league has fared up

574
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 2>to this point would make me think that one Troy

575
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be a loss, but like, we better buckle up,

576
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 2>got to play well, and they might beat them by forty,

577
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 2>but I can think. I guess the bigger thing for

578
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>me would be if I'm playing Illinois and I'm Kentucky,

579
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>based off of what I've seen so far, I would

580
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.119
<v Speaker 2>be scared. Not to say you can't beat them, not

581
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 2>to say you're facing Goliath, but everything about Kentucky since

582
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>the injury stuff really got a hold of them, and

583
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>everything you've seen from their opponents in the tournament tells

584
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>me that like Illinois, like I won't be shocked if

585
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Illinois's favorite in that game. I mean, we'll see, I

586
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 2>mean Illinoi's got to get past Xavier before anything. And

587
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 2>by the way, when wins that game, that's later, right,

588
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 2>let me see, Yeah, that one will be a Yeah,

589
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Illinois and Xavier is a nine to forty five tip,

590
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and Illinois is a four point favorite based off the

591
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Ken Palm. As far as the actual spread in that

592
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>one looks like it's uh, let's see four and a half.

593
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Sean Miller did a good job the other night,

594
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 2>but I mean Illinois better, right, I mean Xavier to

595
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>me again, maybe the Big East will be maybe the

596
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Big East will look like the league that was underseated

597
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:48.039
<v Speaker 2>because they were. I mean, Marquette got a six, Creighton

598
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>got an eight, they finished second in the league and

599
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>played in the championship game. I mean, who else got

600
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 2>in from the Big East. I feel like I'm missing

601
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>some Big East teams here that if Yukon will play

602
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 2>to night against Oklahoma, that yeah, Crade, Marquette, Yukon, Saint

603
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>John's is that it? Yeah? I feel like there was

604
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.800
<v Speaker 2>one more. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, if you go to

605
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:18.119
<v Speaker 2>so so let's see in the Big East it was

606
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Saint John's, Creighton, Connecticut, Marquette, Xavier, and Xavier was a

607
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 2>play and they won. So anyways, I'm not trying to

608
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 2>build up like, uh oh, Kentucky's gonna lose tonight because

609
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't believe that. And in these kind

610
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 2>of games against these kind of teams. It's only been

611
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>one season, but like they dominated these kind of teams

612
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 2>in the non conference portion of their schedule. However, at

613
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>that time that was December and November. Different team. I mean,

614
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>they don't have Lamon Butler and Jackson Robinson, Butler's expected

615
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.639
<v Speaker 2>to play, but like for the last six weeks, it

616
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.159
<v Speaker 2>seems as if when available, and sometimes he's not been

617
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.840
<v Speaker 2>available when available, like, it doesn't take much for him

618
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.800
<v Speaker 2>to re injure himself and and and leave and not

619
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 2>come back. Now we'll say this, I think Amari Williams

620
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:04.199
<v Speaker 2>is a matchup problem for anybody.

621
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>You know.

622
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>He's somebody that I think could just be a different

623
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<v Speaker 2>type of dude that a lot of teams in this

624
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<v Speaker 2>tournament have seen, just because he's a rare player in general.

625
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<v Speaker 2>He's a very good passer, a fiscal presence that you

626
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<v Speaker 2>just don't see. So if I if I was Pope,

627
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<v Speaker 2>I would I would I would enter this tournament looking

628
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<v Speaker 2>to play through him in every way. And of course

629
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<v Speaker 2>Otaga Away is just a just a gamer, tough guy

630
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<v Speaker 2>who you know, like I think he's just going to

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<v Speaker 2>get his you know, with when when the time presents itself.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, we'll come back and wrap at

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<v Speaker 2>the four o'clock hour. On the other side, keep it

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<v Speaker 2>locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 2>So Carolina is still still in a in a big

638
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>hole here. It's now forty one to twenty three with

639
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a couple of minutes left in the first half. Ole

640
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>miss controls. Yeah, and Greg Canyon's up five to zero

641
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 2>against uh just Maryland team. Actually now it's five to two.

642
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Just started, but we're about four minutes in and Maryland

643
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.400
<v Speaker 2>took him that long to score. So I'm already sort

644
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 2>of questioning my decision there. And you know, it's more

645
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>so just my belief in Maryland, but Grant Canyon, I mean,

646
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 2>they are a team coach coached by one of the Druids,

647
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>and I mean they've just they've had a winning program

648
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>for a while. But yet they excuse me, had they

649
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<v Speaker 2>been a team that had broke through the tournament won

650
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<v Speaker 2>a game, because I feel like they've been here quite

651
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<v Speaker 2>a few times now, just because you know, since they've

652
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<v Speaker 2>had even when Dan Marley was there, easy to forget

653
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.079
<v Speaker 2>that he was there. But I think they've shown that

654
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>they they they've got a good thing going. But I

655
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>just it was hard for me to see them being

656
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<v Speaker 2>able to get a win against a team like this,

657
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and I mean, maybe I should have just not touched

658
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>this win or taken Maryland moneyline, I did take Maryland

659
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<v Speaker 2>to cover and Maryland as well as Baylor or two

660
00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 2>teams that I just when I watched them, I know

661
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 2>what they have to work with from a personnel standpoint,

662
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<v Speaker 2>that I just them beating anybody is not going to

663
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<v Speaker 2>shock me. Now. Maryland is a team that the resume

664
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<v Speaker 2>played out that way like they they deserve the seed

665
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<v Speaker 2>that they got. I think you could have made a

666
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<v Speaker 2>case Maryland could have been a three. Baylor is the

667
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 2>team that really they have. They don't have a whole

668
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:19.960
<v Speaker 2>lot to like as far as just numbers and what

669
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<v Speaker 2>they've done and when it comes to results. But today,

670
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>like they had stretches to play against against Mississippi State,

671
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:27.559
<v Speaker 2>where I mean they got nor chattle Meer, a guy

672
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 2>who's played in the Final Four, who's who's Who's one

673
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>of the best bigs you'll see in college basketball. I

674
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 2>mean Edgecombe clearly one of the best freshmen in the country,

675
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>and at this point he's not really a freshman. He

676
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.639
<v Speaker 2>made two clutch free throws to close out the game earlier.

677
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Roach from Duke is one of their guards who

678
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.039
<v Speaker 2>can flat out shoot it. So we'll see what the

679
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 2>number is when we get there. But I really, I

680
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<v Speaker 2>really like Baylor to cover against against Duke because they're

681
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>going to be dogs and it may be a big number,

682
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<v Speaker 2>may not, but I like, I think Baylor could beat

683
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not necessarily going to tell you right now that

684
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<v Speaker 2>I'm predicting it, but I think Duke could run into

685
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 2>something that didn't get talked about a whole lot. Duke

686
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 2>could run into a team that isn't better than them

687
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to talent, doesn't have a better resume.

688
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<v Speaker 2>But the ACC sucked out loud this year. And yes,

689
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Duke played that random non conference game against Illinois and

690
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>they won big. But Baylor's going to give them, just

691
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 2>from a pure talent perspective, something that they have not

692
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<v Speaker 2>seen in a long time, or maybe even all year.

693
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know they played a loaded schedule, but

694
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<v Speaker 2>Baylor on paper, And that's why I like Scott Drew.

695
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 2>He's easy to forget because he coaches at Baylor. He's

696
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:46.519
<v Speaker 2>not a big personality, but he turned down Louisville and

697
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky last year, and you know, I get that. He's

698
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.079
<v Speaker 2>a guy that has won a championship and clearly he

699
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>has a good track record at Baylor, but he's coached

700
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<v Speaker 2>a long time and like this year's Baylor team, their results,

701
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>it's actually most consistent with what he's done his whole career.

702
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<v Speaker 2>So again, I think when you look at their roster

703
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:07.760
<v Speaker 2>as far as who they added in the portal, who

704
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<v Speaker 2>they brought in from as freshmen, like, Baylor will be

705
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.719
<v Speaker 2>a challenge to Duke from a talent perspective that I'm

706
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<v Speaker 2>not sure they faced all year. I mean, Auburn, they

707
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<v Speaker 2>played them, and obviously they lost to Auburn, and Auburn's great,

708
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<v Speaker 2>But outside of that, I mean Baylor just you know, again,

709
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking from like a resume, and again that's

710
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<v Speaker 2>what like. At this point, you've proven who you are.

711
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<v Speaker 2>But if you get there's a team that could get

712
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<v Speaker 2>hot in March and also just rely on guys who

713
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 2>just simply are built different. Baylor could be that team.

714
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<v Speaker 2>But again, I here I am talking up Maryland and

715
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<v Speaker 2>All right, not looking good for Saint Mary's. I mean

726
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<v Speaker 2>it's not over Austin, but they're down thirty nine to

727
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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven. And it just when I see them sitting

728
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<v Speaker 2>at twenty seven, I'm still thinking, Okay, when's the run

729
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna start. Yeah, they can't get any footing under them

730
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 2>whatsoever because they can't get stops, and that's usually what

731
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>they rely on. Like they've they probably haven't gone on

732
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<v Speaker 2>many runs this year as a team. That would that

733
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<v Speaker 2>would be, you know, like they went on a fourteen

734
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<v Speaker 2>to two run, Like if they did, it would have

735
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>taken them a half to do it because they just

736
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<v Speaker 2>play so slow. Well you would know better than I would.

737
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Randy Bennett, a guy who wins enough at

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Mary's to certainly, I mean they wouldn't you say,

739
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<v Speaker 2>Saint Mary's. They're clearly no Gonzaga, but they have like

740
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<v Speaker 2>they they're visible within the college basketball right right, absolutely

741
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 2>as one of those kind of teams. But it's all

742
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<v Speaker 2>always there, but it's always based off of him building

743
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 2>a team that is built to do what he knows

744
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:11.199
<v Speaker 2>can succeed. And when they lose players to the in fact,

745
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:12.760
<v Speaker 2>they don't lose many guys at the portal because the

746
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 2>guys that are there they realize I know who I

747
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.719
<v Speaker 2>am as a player. My best case scenario, the best

748
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<v Speaker 2>chance for me to be a successful player on a

749
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>successful team is to play at Saint Mary's. So when

750
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:24.760
<v Speaker 2>you run it like when you run into when you

751
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.079
<v Speaker 2>run into a team that just simply has been able

752
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to get by what you try to keep them from doing,

753
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>but also you know they're stopping you like it. I

754
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<v Speaker 2>have no number to reference, and I doubt it exists

755
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 2>without somebody doing a deep dive. And I know I'm

756
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:42.719
<v Speaker 2>not doing it, and I know but nobody else will,

757
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 2>but I'd be I would love to see a Saint

758
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Mary's breakdown of when they get down double digits, do

759
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<v Speaker 2>they ever win? Because again, there's teams that are built

760
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:52.119
<v Speaker 2>to just keep it at the pace to where they

761
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 2>could easily within a few possessions, they're back in it.

762
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.320
<v Speaker 2>That's not Saint Mary's. So they're gonna have to have

763
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<v Speaker 2>an identity change here if they a clawback, because twelve

764
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<v Speaker 2>I put it this way with the Virginia. Remember we'd

765
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<v Speaker 2>be down seven to Virginia. I feel like you're down thirty.

766
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<v Speaker 2>You remember that, right? Yeah, I was just dragging it

767
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 2>through the mud. I mean, I feel like that's kind

768
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>of Saint Mary's if they're down for who they are.

769
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Like if you but if you had Virginia down big,

770
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>you felt like you were killing them, right, if you'd

771
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<v Speaker 2>had him down it, if you had him down eight,

772
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>you felt like it was over. So we'll see what happens.

773
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<v Speaker 2>But I do know we got to get to a break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll finish strong here in the five o'clock hour. Keep

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