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Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on.
Thank you for telling a friend. That's how we spread
the word about the pirate ship. Hopefully we add little
value to your day. It's Danny and Me today. Uh
Thanksgiving coming off the Thanksgiving breaking so up. I used
to love Thanksgiving as a holiday because every family member
was around and there was no pressures of gifts or anything.
Speaker 3: But I guess can you do what you do naturally,
which you sit around and eat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, I think I I overate
to the point of like excessive. I stepped on a
scale and I wish I didn't after I wish I didn't.
But I gotta tell you, like something happens when I'm
over I have an extended time off or an extended
time where I'm with families, I get so exhausted, like
my body starts to really rest. So yesterday we're driving
back and I we left it, you know, like two
o'clock in the afternoon. We're coming back here, and I
get so and like I could feel myself getting tired.
We stop, we fill up with gas. I get a
Red Bull, a diet Coke, M and m's. I have
all that and I'm not even an hour into the trip. Yeah,
what happened?
Speaker 3: Like that's like the worst that like I've seen people drink.
You can't drink, Yeah, you can't do that. Wait.
Speaker 1: Wait, so this.
Speaker 3: Most energy drink that's a sugar.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring this to Danny because I only
well only.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what happened because you watch.
Speaker 1: All this stuff. So Danny, I am like clinging to
the you know, and I'm trying to like keep my
eye and Jameson looks over him. He goes you all right,
and I said, I think we got.
Speaker 3: To pull off.
Speaker 1: So I pull off Jacks.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: When I found a grocery store and I went in
and I bought sweet potato chips because I wanted something
of a little more healthy than eating like I eat
a ton of organic junk food, and so exactly that's.
Speaker 3: What it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, but sweet potatoes. I figured a little bit better, Okay, So,
and I got a Starbucks black coffee in a can
like the nitro browed coffee, the Ultimate Orior Coffee. And
I had that and I felt fine. But the oxygen.
But I gotta tell you, I was going hard. I
was down fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The sugar. I don't know about the caffeine. The
caffeine won't make you crash, It'll just it'll get get
you awake. But the sugar will make you crash. That
was way too much sugar.
Speaker 1: Plus the M and ms, yes, plus the die coke. Yeah,
well the die coke shouldn't have sugar in it.
Speaker 3: But the but the other stuff. Yeah, but like you
forget the die coke for a second. The other stuff,
like the monster or the the red Bull. Yeah is that?
Speaker 1: Look? I I normally stay away from all that stuff,
but in severe dire moments, and I bought another one.
I didn't open it. I'm not a I'm not a
big fan of the energy drink.
Speaker 3: Energy drinks are not good for you. Yeah, period, They're
not good for you. If you ever want to like
really get like a hydration drink drinking take a noon tablet.
They look like smarties, but they're not and like n
u u n yeah, they're hy there, they're hydration. You
put it in the water and it's like drinking two
glasses of water for the price of one. Okay, and
it really like it hydrates your you're all your cells
and everything else. It's more of a you.
Speaker 1: Know what is this all from watching YouTube?
Speaker 3: No, this is like our friend to well from Shortsi's
wife to Neil the acupunctures told me because he used
to drink a lot of energy drinks and she told him, no,
don't do that. Drink the noons instead, because the energy
will last longer. It's not a quick fix, but it'll
you'll stay hydrated and more alert, like you still need
your regular sleep. It's not a cure for anything, but
it's healthier drinking that. If you're gonna sip on something
all day, sip on those and like because it's like
flavoring your water. It's enjoyable to drink. It's not just
because people get sick, and I don't blame them for
drinking water all day. It sucks. It's Bland. It's just
you're drinking water for the sake of drinking water to
stay hydrated. But your body's gonna tell you when you
need it or not. So if you drink more noon,
you're gonna drink less water throughout the day because you're
gonna need less water throughout the day, but you're still
gonna be alert.
Speaker 1: So Noon I was I'm familiar with.
Speaker 3: But I but I don't think you're gonna find noone
at rest stops, right, It's you find it like the
health section or whatever. Yeah, but you're not gonna like
You're not gonna go to the Apple Green store on
the thru Way. Okay, Monster Energy, red Bull. I stopped
and which one of these things is not like the other?
I stopped at the dollar Store. Then there's another grocery
store called Hanniford. I don't think we have it up here,
but I used to bottle it when I worked at
Red Wing back in nineteen ninety nine. Hanniford's Selad Dressing.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, So Hanniford's a grocery store, and I don't
know where they are exactly in the state, But so
we stopped more in Albany and that's where, and I
could have gotten noon there, I'm sure. But I always
hate grocery stores because I always feel like they're laid
out horribly. Oh yeah, I really do. I feel like
other than Wegman's, they it makes no fucking sense to
me sometimes, like I'm going I think the other day
I was looking for something and James is like, oh,
it was all the way back on the other side.
I go, well, that makes no sense. Everything else is
over here, right, all the water is here.
Speaker 3: The idea is to make you buy more, oh and
impulse by between Aisle four and Aisle seventeen, there's eleven
other isles. Hey, you know, we could use these Newman
cookies because they're healthier than made organically. It's still organic
jug food. Yeah. But you know what, though, I think
I deserve this right, That's why. That's why they do it. Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't listen to a lot of podcasts, uh. I
listened to ours sometimes back to just play well just
you know that sort of thing. And but I I,
I don't really know many podcasts, which is probably not
a smart thing. So well, I decided to say that,
I thought, let me see what other podcasts are like.
So I went to Melt Robbins. Are you familiar with
Melt Robbins?
Speaker 3: Is this a woman?
Speaker 1: It is a woman.
Speaker 3: It's not from the view right, she is not. She
a black woman. No, she is not.
Speaker 1: She's a white, blonde lady. Just further this thing from black.
She's photo negative of black. Okay, all right, okay, it's
like you know, so she But I'm listening and and
I go, this woman and she's an entrepreneur, and she's
written books and she's done things. She's very motivational. She
speaks at different things. And I had been familiar with her,
and other people have said to me, have you ever listened?
Have you ever listened? So I thought, let me listen
to Mel Robbins. So I listened Jamison and we're driving
back once I kind of snap too. Jamison has his
earbuds in and I'm listening to the Mel Robins podcast,
and I'm going, this woman is I'm like, I could
see her on TV. You know, it's not unattractive at all.
She's and she's like Oprah in that she's really giving
people value and she's speaking to and I only look,
I've done media for a long time. Radio and I
think that pretty much everything in radio, I think it's
fair to say was successful, right, Yes, it was successful.
So but podcast is a different animal. And I'm learning
that when we're coming up on the second anniversary. Yeah,
I know, right, And and so the T shirts got nothing.
So I'm looking at this and I go. So I'm listening,
and what she's doing is she's talking to somebody about
who's a scientist who runs a lab, and he's talking
about different ways to like improve.
Speaker 3: Your life.
Speaker 1: Dealing with ADHD and you know how you can sometimes
distract yourself and you know, pinch off thoughts and this
and that, and it was all things like I've even
said here, just said in a different way. But it
was all kind of focused in one thing. But it's
Jamison said it to me. He goes, you guys cover
a lot of topics. Well, yes. So then I'm listening
to another one, and this one was about decluttering. And
she had a person on and the only reason I
remember the name is because it's Dana White. But it's
not DANEA White, the UFC fighter. It's Dana Hey White,
a woman and she wrote a book on decluttering. Okay,
now you can imagine as I'm listening to this. I'm
in my head as the age I am in my
early fifties. I'm going with now my fourteen year old
son living with me in just.
Speaker 3: Get the stuff out of here. We gonna pay attention to.
Speaker 1: This quarters the decluttering. And it was interesting to me. Okay,
Jamison's earbuds lose their charge, so now he has to listen.
So now he has to listen, and he says, so
in there and the woman's going on about how she said,
I used to think the woman wrote the book, I
used to think that I had to get a bigger
house because of all the stuff, because of all the stuff.
And she's like, there's a difference between organizing and decluttering.
When you organize, you buy more stuff to organize. When
you declutter, you're just getting rid of stuff. She goes,
so I had a friend who and she's like, you know,
like you get a container, well you have to think
about contain container is contained. Okay, Now I got this
fourteen year old smart ass sitting next to me. So
he says to me, he goes.
Speaker 3: What did she just say?
Speaker 1: And I go, well, she's talking about just that it
contains that. Really, your house can only contain so much.
That's what she was trying to draw the analogy, right,
But they're talking as women would talk, and this one,
the woman who wrote the book, says, I remember going
to a friend of mine's house and seeing like where
she kept her kids crayons in red buckets. So I'm like, oh,
I'll go get red buckets. She's like, she had two
red buckets filled with crayons. So I go, well, we
have so many crans, I'm gonna get three buckets. And
she goes, I got all these broken crans. But I
kept thinking broken crans. We'll still write. Right. We're listening
to this and then Jamison and I pause it because
he wanted to talk to me about stuff, so we
just started talking. We stopped. Then on the way back,
wanted to hit target. So we get to Victor, we
go to Target. We're walking in and he goes, you know, like,
Craon's because broken Craon's still right right, you know. He
looks at me and goes, is this is this what
happened when you Is this what happens when you give
middle aged women recording to us? And I'm like, hold
on a second, I will tell you and I hope somebody, like,
some somehow a clip of what I just said gets
to mel Robins because I found it of value. But
I'm a fifty something year old guy who's living with
my son, going, yeah, I want to declutter, and there
is a difference between declutter and deorganization. And I could
hear it, but I go, she's man, she's hit a niche.
This lady is smart. She she asks good questions, she
follows up, she explains what's happening. She puts it in
bite side, and she's motivating. And she says, to like
her listeners, I love you if no one's told you today,
and it's not it doesn't. Drip of Cheese sounds very
authentic coming out of her mouth. I'm not familiar all
that familiar with this person. I'm aware of her. This
first time I ever listened to her podcast, I was.
I thought it was great but different than ours and
very focused. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think people find podcasts based on their hobbies and
interests or issues, and I think clutter is a big issue.
Like you know, she's all over you guys, break my
balls about bringing everything to two shows. The family guy
of the Sopranos, I'm gonna give you a family. Guy
of repers. They did an entire episode about Lois decluttering
the house to a point where it became poison and
the entire episode ends up being against a whiteboard because
she decluttered every she decluttered the actual house. Like how
women could get carried away with? By the way, guys too,
I mean, the idea is that you take an idea
to an extreme right.
Speaker 1: And the point is.
Speaker 3: Is that everyone's got a podcast now, and women get
this idea or men get this idea like okay, Danny
with supplements, and you get carried away because you when
to stop exactly.
Speaker 1: And so that was it was sort of But I'm
listening to this, I go, it's value and I go, boy,
she's like the Oprah of the podcast world. I'm surprised
she doesn't have a television show. She's got her whole company.
Well that's the progression.
Speaker 3: Now you get the TV show that eventually get the
book deal or vice versa books.
Speaker 1: And I go, I wonder if she just doesn't want
to could be do the TV she like? I think
she likes the speaking, could think she's got She lives
in Vermont, the studios in Boston see.
Speaker 3: When you're when you're doing TV. Now, unless you own
the show, you are now the employee and you can't
do what you want. Well, that's the other thing, you
know what I'm saying, Like oly Oprah could do that,
Like even but Drew Barrymore and Allen DeGeneres had to
work for somebody. Eventually Ellen worked her way out, Rose
O'Donnell worked her way out. Or there's only one Oprah.
So I think in today's world now, to get a
television show, when you're used to doing things your own way,
all of a sudden, now you work for somebody. That
could be a conflict of interest with your brand.
Speaker 1: Tell you as I look towards twenty twenty five and
and different things with the and stuff like that, you know,
I go back. I don't know that I could work
for somebody again. I really mean that. And it sounds strange,
right because I will admit openly now that it has
been a struggle at times, and it's been a struggle
financially only because I was making what I was making
in radio that has sort of dried up over two years,
not that you know, things are destitute or whatever. But
then I have my fourteen year old son living with me.
I still have payments I have to make to yeah,
my wife, and so they're you know, just legal obligations
that money doesn't get less even though less is coming in. Yeah,
and so. But in spite of in spite of all that,
or despite all that, I would say, I'm more excited
about the future now than I've ever been. And I
think that the uh, I don't know that I could
go back.
Speaker 3: It's hard. Yeah, I don't know then I could go back.
And I'm in a situation now with work where I
work for somebody, but it's like I work for myself,
you know what I'm saying, And I don't it would
be hard for me to go back to the corporate world,
like my brother's going through it now right now. So
he left our company. He's working for somebody but on
a different scale, and he is more responsible to them
than he was with our own company that we work
for now or I work for, because our boss is fantastic,
but he lets us just do our thing. He's very
like hands off. If you need me, call me, I'll
help you know, finish, help you you know, straighten things out.
But now he's working for a corporation where you know,
the job isn't the job anymore. Now there's all this
bureaucracy that goes on. There is in ninety percent of
his navigating that. Yeah, and it's not easy. Like when
we worked in radio, like half the if you got
rid of the bureaucracy, we would have had a blast. Yeah,
I was all the time.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking of that. I as I progressed
in radio, it was more hands off for me because
they trusted you. It's God's imagement. Well you delivered, right, Yeah,
delivered because you proved you could do it and you
became more of an independent and I liked that. But
I don't know that I could go back to it now,
even in that structure, because.
Speaker 3: There were you know, you.
Speaker 1: Had to do the dance and I don't know any
other way to say it, but you had to do
a dance, right, You had to dance to somebody else
who was with you or whatever. And I don't feel
like with the guys on the podcast, you Kevin, anybody
else that that comes in, I don't feel like I
have to do that. No, and you know, and everything
seems to just flow and I like it. I like it.
Speaker 3: This way, I've had more fun doing this show than
maybe any day I had radio.
Speaker 1: That's sweet to hear, but I really.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, I'll tell you this. Yeah, I do a
show with Brad Davies and we would talk sports for
three hours a day. Now, that was a different It
was a different kind of fun. Though. It was a
different kind of fun. But like Brad and I like
would like brand that was a really nice That was that?
Oh yeah, that was that was a blast. And I've
actually thought about maybe next year, like getting Brad on
once a week, just me and him just talking stuff,
because like he was a sports only guy and now
he only watches baseball. He doesn't even pay attention to
anything else. He goes. It's amazing when you get a
job outside radio, how much your life changes and you
realize how much is out there that you've missed, that
you didn't see, and that you don't have to pay
attention to this stuff anymore if you don't want to.
That was but this I mean, I mean, think about
all the people you've brought into this show. Think of
all the people. And I don't want to name a walk,
I don't want to leave aybody out. We've brought in
maybe fifteen different regular people to this podcast, and everyone's
got a different thing to say, and they're all heard,
and we all like listen to each other and learn
from each other and have a blast with each other.
Everybody gets along. There's no politics, there's no bs. Nobody's
ever mf and anybody at least we break balls, but
that's just that's part of it because we all like
each other. It's fun.
Speaker 1: I don't want I never wanted anything like that, you
know what I'm saying. I don't want it to be advertiser.
I'll say to you all the time.
Speaker 3: I think nobody should dread coming into work. Yeah, nobody
should ever dream.
Speaker 1: Coming into work. That's an awful thing. If you dread
going to your job, if you have a miserable boss,
and sometimes you're in a position. I have family members
that will say to me they've been looking for another
job to get out of the job they have. They
get another job or they get you know, they're on
that path, right, but the benefits aren't nearly as good, right,
So they stay where they are because you have a
family and the benefits are better, and I go. But
that's still not exactly the situation they want. And I
used to say to you in radio specifically or entertainment
of any kind, I don't care what it is. Entertainment.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't dread going to work.
Speaker 1: No, you should love what you do.
Speaker 3: And are both of us at different times in our
careers we're like, well, I sometimes turn back and go,
I don't know that I handled things properly with a
certain company, with that one company that we both work for,
and that I wish.
Speaker 1: I I don't wish, but I learned that probably wasn't
the exact way to do it. But you but being
that firm, like to me, firm was always boisterous and loud,
right somebody yelling at me, and not just steadfast and
calm and just look somebody dead in the eye and
go absolutely not no, or I don't agree with that,
because you can still get the same message across.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, in a way.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say this, that sounded weird,
like I let you down a little bit because I
feel like I should have fought harder at times, and
then I got so mad and stupidly so maybe that
I walked away because I was told by that company
I will tell you this. I was told by the
guy who was in charge of the East Coast. He
was our guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said to me, Grandpa. Yeah, is that the
guy our friend called grandpa?
Speaker 1: I gotta go tell grandpa. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, he
said to me. They used to pull me in all
the time forget so he said to me, you could
stay here for the next twenty years. He goes, this
show is excellent, and he said that, and I was like, great,
then let me have Let me have it, Bill, let
me have it.
Speaker 3: Not so fast.
Speaker 1: So it's still like a hot head, you know, you know.
And I wasn't that young. I'm in my forties at
the time. But whatever it does, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I I too, you know. It's funny. It's funny.
Speaker 1: I found that one time. God damn, when she came
to me. It pissed me off so bad was this
whole The only thing I can put it to is
if you have a boss that says, uh, whatever your
contract is with your job, is your contract with your job.
Unless you have a job where everybody's sort of equal.
Everybody came in at whatever right, you know, and the
longer you're there, you go up and pay and you
get a little seniority. I think in radio and stuff,
you're hired by your talent and whatever you your deal
is is your deal. If you decided to talk about that,
then you decided to talk about that. Uh she You
know when I said, then give Dan to oh, I
can't give him Hey. If I do that, I have
to give everybody. And I said, well, why not give
him the same vacation as us? Well, you know the producers.
I'll talk and if I give it one producer, then
I'm gonna have to do it for all of them.
Speaker 3: I go, is this give him mouse a cookie?
Speaker 1: I remember saying that to him. I go, this is
the dumbest thing. And it was that kind of thinking
that soured me on that company. Yeah, you didn't let
me down. We were all like you.
Speaker 3: You told a story about when before you guys all
came over. When you worked with Wiz, you had you
guys had a guy that stood up for you. His
name was Stan Maine. Stan Mayde always had your back.
So if anything ever went sideways on the show, everybody
could go to Stan and Stan would take care of it,
right Stan. The buck stops here with Stan.
Speaker 1: By Yeah, when we.
Speaker 3: Got j T was great, but JT had to be
in charge of everybody Stan. I mean he was in
charge of CMF first and foremost, and then other guys
on other stations. Right, But you had a boss, you
had a fighter, a warrior for you. JT had to
be that for everybody, so we had to pick his spots.
And by the way, with corporate that's by design. They
don't want to have too many people they have to
fight off, and they don't want to hire somebody strong
after JT. They would never hire somebody that was as
strong as JT and had balls like JT. Again, I'll
say it here. They didn't want to do that. Why
because they don't want to be challenged. They don't want
anybody to upstage them. So we were all kind of
like pulling pianos up the side of the building, and
you had the biggest piano to pull yourself, you know,
by yourself. You had to fight so many battles, and
then you had to go home and be a dad
and a husband, and that was hard and get up
a three o'clock in the morning. And me, in my
late twenties, I did never learn the art of emotional intelligence.
I was out of radio. Yeah I didn't either, and
I realized looking back, Oh my gosh, I didn't What
was your problem, people, you didn't know I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know any better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know any better, and that was on me.
But I'll tell you this. Let me say this about
this podcast. And I mentioned Brad Davies earlier, between you,
me and Tommy and me and Brad Our, my favorite
times in radio weren't when the mics were on.
Speaker 1: It was when the mics went off.
Speaker 3: And this podcast, let me tell you something, ladies and gentlemen,
this podcast is the place where you will hear everything
that can't be discussed when the mics are on, but
when the mics are off. And it's been a blast,
and it's been fun, and I love coming here and
I love doing so I hope everybody else that comes
on this show, and I think they do appreciate that
you're able to do this, because anybody can flip a
switch and start a podcast. You and I know a
lot of people have tried and after five episodes, yeah
that's it, I'm done.
Speaker 1: I'm done.
Speaker 3: I've done it. I did over like four hundred episodes
of my own podcast. Eventually you know luck story. But
the point is, though, is that it's not easy. The
fact that we're still here two years later, and that
you guys care to left to listen and people care
enough to come on. It's special and it's only going
to get better. And I love it. It's fantastic.
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Speaker 3: So, what is it about the holidays? I think of
Elvis as much as I think of Santa. Do you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really, I don't know what it is. Did you hear
this a lot growing up? Was it Alvis so popular?
Speaker 3: Well? The story was no, Alvis really wasn't popular, but
when he came on, my father would sing it like
Elvis okay, right, and his ex wife loved loved el
In fact, the story was that my older sister, when
she was alive, she murder the day I was died.
She's watching soaps with her It was in the middle
of summer. Right, She's watching soaps with her grandmother and
her mother and her grandmother and her live together after
she split up her mother's with my dad, and the
crawl comes across the bottom of the screen. The king
is dead. Elvis Presley dies at like forty three years
old the graceland and the grandmother and her mother start
bawling in her end.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the king is dead.
Speaker 3: The king is dead. My father goes, she didn't cry
when she left me. But like every time that song
came on, my father, Oh I hate this song, why dad,
because you're my ex wife used to play it all
the time. And so then my brother in law when
he would go over to their house for Christmas, he
would hear this song went over and over again, and
he told my father goes, yeah, he goes, Carol was
her name, Carol plays that song by Elvis Blue Christmas,
and my father starts laughing, Oh you.
Speaker 1: Hate it too, huh yeah.
Speaker 3: She used to do that with me. It drove me nuts.
But for some reason, like Elvis just always was playing
around the holidays because he always had a holiday record
and my grandmother enjoyed it. So it was just he
was like he and Sinatra. Anybody was a star at
that point in the sixties and seventies had a Christmas album,
so you'd hear them around the holidays. So that's why
I kind of I kind of think of it randomly
around Thanksgiving when you're sitting there watching football and there's
a commercial break, I go to my phone and go,
I wonder who owns Elvis? Now? So I actually looked
up who owns Elvis? Here's what I mean, like Elvis,
el everything, and like Lisa Marie had it for a
week and then she it ran out. They had to
sell it. So now it's like a conglomerate that really
owns Graceland and Elvis. But she was the majority like
shareholder of her father's properties and stuff. But I mean,
now that she's gone, it's gonna be all kinds of
It's gonna be interesting to see what happens at Graceland in
the next twenty years. Oh yeah, because there's gonna be
a generation of kids that just don't give a crap
about Elvis.
Speaker 1: No, they don't even know. Now I had the kids today,
I've been thinking about this a lot, Like you know
the term soft and you know all the things, well.
Speaker 3: Every generator, right, but and life was better twenty five
years ago.
Speaker 1: It's so funny to me because, uh, Jamison, I'm older, right,
and when his brothers were little obviously younger, new first
time and you get a little more patience, or you
just have wisdom with age, right, you know that that's
the blessing of old age. You know, youth is wasted
on the young because you weren't as wise that you
like you said, you weren't as emotional intelligen Yeah, and
you can't. And so here we are. But uh, I
why I watch things with kids and I'm I'm you know,
I'm substitute teaching at times, and I see a lot
of things and I I don't know, I feel like
and this will probably ruffle some feathers, but let's have
the discussion.
Speaker 3: That's why we do it.
Speaker 1: And you can always reach out. You can call the
number that's on the bottom of the screen anytime anytime,
leave a message. It would lead to a discussion. On
the podcast. You can leave us comments if you're watching live,
you can send emails and things. And we'll even have
our website. You can look. There's a test page up
right now. I'm not going to say anything, but it's
something in the work. So anyway, interaction, I would love that.
But I feel like if we talk about groups, segments
of the population and under serve segments of the population
or people who have been ostracized or put out and
whether it's you know, whether you are gay or whatever,
right all for years. Yeah, I can't deny that. That's
the thing. I just feel like right now, young men
are almost this forgotten thing. I feel like we aren't
in a way. We're trying to put a round peg
in a square hole and then wonder why things are
the way they are, and I think like we're not.
Speaker 3: I mean, it becomes a vicious cycle.
Speaker 1: Well, just like there's a lot of energy in young
in young boys, yes, just biological boys. And I think
sitting in school is hard.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard for them, and I think trying
to get six hours of that is a tough thing,
and especially for boys. I'm not saying maybe for girls
as well, But I feel like women are more I
don't know, emotionally intelligent, smarter, able to focus.
Speaker 3: They mature fast, sooner and faster.
Speaker 1: But they're or they're more honest about things where guys
try to stuff it down. I don't know what it is,
but I feel like we've designed things in such a
way that boys can't really be boys anymore. We don't
want you doing this, We don't hands on each other,
even the horse play, the horse in around, the dumb jokes,
the whatever I go that to me.
Speaker 3: Is those are microaggressions.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: That's that's the point you're making, is that we don't
let boys be boys.
Speaker 1: I don't think we do. And I'm not saying, like you,
we shouldn't be putting hands. I get it, I'll agree
with you on that, but we should be able to
say get outside and run for you know, fifteen minutes
for let's get up, and let's get up and do
some jumping back jacks or whatever. And I just feel
like there's this under served thing and you're forcing them
to sit and be still and be quiet, pay attention,
and you know, if you don't this, there's consequences. I go, boy,
it just seems like we're we're not meeting them where
they need to be met, trying to force them to
meet us where we believe they need to be met,
or some somebody did. And I think that, you know,
I think there's a lot of guys who I I
just have a ability and a curiosity about people. When
I say ability, I feel like I can connect pretty
well with almost anybody in some way. I'm not gonna
say we would be best friends, but I can connect
people open.
Speaker 3: To get at your level. I'll meet you at your level.
Speaker 1: And I you know, I've even talked to kids. One
kid was telling me when I was summing, I just
just I could tell he was the the He looked
like an eighties bully Dakley earrings, jackets, bullet, no sleeveless
sleeveless T shirt, right, And I came I was coming
into a class. The teacher was going to be leaving,
so he was setting it up, and he says to me,
you're gonna watch those two in the back. I got
already noticed, and I went back, and I wound up
talking to this kid, and the kid wound up opening
up to me, telling me that he's here, he's between
where where he was in that school and another school
that was nearby, and why he bounce back and forth,
and then it came out my mom took off, and
so now I'm with Grandma, right, and kids in this
school are different from kids in the other school, and
I don't like it, and blah blah blah, And I
was like, why aren't we trying to meet the kid
where the kid's at now? I will tell you, and
your wife's a teacher, I don't know how to fuck
they do it because I'm not. I will never ever
ever in my life. I think teaching is an easy job.
Substitute teaching is a very easy job because I just
go in and get to be me. That's it. I
get to be me, say silly things, talk to the kids.
If they ask me something, I'll answer them, I'll try
to help them, I'll do whatever. But there's no pressure
on me. I don't have to raise your test scores
by ten points. I don't got to get I don't
gotta I don't have to get a certain percentage of
kids to pass the regions. Do you understand what?
Speaker 3: That? Stab each other? That's it. And so.
Speaker 1: I had to do it because Jameson lived with me.
All of a sudden, I'm like, whoa, I'm gonna you know,
we're going to crash this boat here if I don't
get back on track. And I'm trying to adjust things
with the podcast that were you know, I know long
term will be fine. In the meantime, it's a little tight, Okay.
Then all of a sudden he's gonna come with me,
and whoa, So This has worked out great and it
helped me help him. But I'm like, man, we don't
We don't meet these guys where they're at. And I
think that they try, but there's such a large group
of kids. You can't get to everybody. And I go, man,
I feel bad for teachers because I think they do
care and I think they do want to reach every kid.
But I think that the pressure sometimes is.
Speaker 3: There's so much other stuff that they have to worry
about first. It's like an inverted period of worry. I
have to take care of all of this before I
can get down to hey, man, how you doing right?
Speaker 1: And it's it's sad in a way, and I and
it's hard. Right, you got to class with thirty kids.
You can't meet each one individually. But I can, you know,
I can at times, and I just go over and
talk to the kids like this. One kid the other
day was telling me, I go, what do you like
to do when you're not here? He goes, I fixed bicycles.
Speaker 3: I go what?
Speaker 1: He goes, Yeah, I just find random bicycles and he goes,
and then sometimes I sell them. I sold one for
seventy dollars.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: He's like a fourteen to fifteen year old kid. I go,
that is so great, dude, working with your hands and
babb blah, you know what I'm saying, and like, you're
just and I don't even mean it as but that
positive feedback and that telling that kid, hey man, working
with your hands is awesome again A boy another you
know what I mean? Where we just I feel like
sometimes that gets lost and I even noticed, like with Jamison,
he wants to stop, he wants to get some kind
of He goes, yeah, this lotion smells great, can we
get it? And I go what He's like, what you
don't wear any clone or anything?
Speaker 3: Go no, he goes, what are you just?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. You just use your soap. That's it.
And I go, I sound like a grizzled old fuck,
but that is I don't wear Colone. I don't I
wear the Owner and of course, but yeah I don't.
We now have things that ads where we didn't talk
about different parts of our body stinking. Right now, I
got a lady in her underwear going yea.
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's incredibly toxic if you look
at the stuff that's in it. Oh, I have no idea,
but all I'm saying is, like us, doctor Squatch, we're.
Speaker 1: Worrying about what we smell like and what what happened?
Speaker 3: Right. We have we have the we have the luxury
of which is great. Okay, we have the luxury of
worrying about things we don't we shouldn't worry about, and
not worrying about.
Speaker 1: The things we should worry about.
Speaker 3: Right. So, growing up, there were there were always these.
We had a gazebo in our hometown and all the
kids who really were misfits hung out in the gazebees
eventually earned the name gaze bites because they were rebellious,
but they weren't compared to today's kids. And I hate
saying that they.
Speaker 1: Weren't really that bad.
Speaker 3: They just hung out in the gazebos, so people wouldn't
want to go hang out in the park, right, Well,
a couple of them named Wayne and Joe. What's more
rebellious than going to church? So they started going to
the white church next to the gazebo, and those people
who are like Presbyterian were like prim and proper, like, no,
you can't come to our church. Really, so they come
to our church. And my father sees this a mile
away coming and they walk in and he knows they're
going to be rebellious, so what does he do. He
leans into it. Cool man, cool, what's your name? And
they'd be swearing and they go, well, we don't curse here,
but you know, tell me about these people that use
a pejorative. Why why don't you like them? And they
opened up to them. Yeah, all of a sudden, they're
coming to church. One of them became saved, they got baptized.
Why because the adults of the church showed an interest
in them. They didn't like get mad, and they just like, Okay,
we're gonna play along as long as we If they
get stupid, then we're gonna say, hey, look, you can't
talk like that. This is a church. It's like a boundary, right,
And my father goes, people like there are kids who
want to be told by their parents. You know, they
want to be told, no, you're not going out tonight. Hey, no,
I want you to stay home with me. I want
My father goes, I know what it's like. But both
my parents worked all the time, so I practically had
to raise myself. So I understand what it's like to
go out and be rebellious because you're looking for attention,
You're looking for people to care and know iss you yes,
and for validation. But eventually that runs out, right, I
have to have some structure in your life.
Speaker 1: Why I think sports is phenomenal right, because it gives
you especially and for every gender. Don't please don't. I
hope I don't upset anybody. But I think just because
I am a guy, I think for guys and especially
young guys, it's the great meritocracy.
Speaker 3: You can work hard and it's the last passion of meritocracy.
Speaker 1: And you can you wind up just doing better at everything.
It's like all of a sudden if you and you
can get real validation when you do things. And I
believe that you can push further a kid further in
all areas once they start feeling.
Speaker 3: Good about themselves.
Speaker 1: Yes, that to me is the self esteem and that
you know, it's not blowing smoke up somebody's ass, but
it's going, hey, when you did something great, God man,
that's impressive, right, you know that's my thing. I don't know.
I'm not an expert. I'm not a child psychologist.
Speaker 3: You know all this.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you somebody who is observed life for
fifty three years. I think we get young guys wrong.
Speaker 3: I think you're right, and I think it starts in Hollywood.
Here's what I mean by that. So when I grew
up and you grew up, the sitcom formula and it
still is this today is okay. You got the mom
and the dead. The dad's an idiot, the mom is smart.
There's three kids, there's always two, usually two girls.
Speaker 1: And a boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the boy is dumb. There's the hot girl and
then there's the dumb girl. Right, but let's focus on
the men are stupid, the women are smart. The little
girl always runs the family and saves the day. And
it's a formula. It's been played out because it's supposed
to sound ridiculous. Now they're telling us that that should
be the norm. And when I see on Twitter all
these media guys going, I'm a girl dad, I'm a
girl dad, I'm a girl dad. Well that's great, but
what about your little boy? Do you not have boys? Do?
But even if you, even if you don't, you don't
neglect the boys to prove that you're a great girl dad.
To make women feel better about themselves, because the boys
getting neglected too, and we've been trained men are stupid.
Boys are stupid, and after a while, collectively we start
believing it and it's not true.
Speaker 1: What was the growing pain? Yes, light sever Ben did
they did they make that dad to be out?
Speaker 3: No, no, he was Actually he's actually good.
Speaker 1: Trying to think Cosby was. He was a doctor.
Speaker 3: But but she ran the show, missus oxble Rands.
Speaker 1: But they seemed to balance pretty good. They did.
Speaker 3: But there was always a moment at the end where
both parents came together to teach a lesson. Yes, yes, yeah, okay,
whereas you know growing pains. You know, mister doctor sever
was actually pretty with it. In fact, the joke was
he was more with it on screen than off screen,
like Alan Thick was not in control of his family
according to stories.
Speaker 1: But I like when you know.
Speaker 3: But the point was is that that was a stable family.
This was a stable family's supposed to look like the Severs. Yeah,
you know, the mom worked, but she was also had
time to be a mom.
Speaker 1: It was well, guys do do dumb things. They do
you know, we we like that dumb stuff, But I
say encourage that sort of you know what I mean,
Like I got to sit in on a wood shop class.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I was helping some kids put a
table together. But I just think that those types of things,
like we need to not be so fearful as much
and let kids just go. And maybe I'm I'm too
much that way. I don't know. But as a kid
grown up, I would jump on my bike and be gone.
I would be three four miles into town and it
was no big deal. And I was maybe I was twelve,
I might have been. I thought I was younger than
that when I was doing it. And I never checked
in at home and there was no way to call,
and there was no anything, and you kind of learned
and you learn the rules of the playground, the rules
of the jungle, right. You knew who was the leader
among your peers was and if you didn't like it,
you know there were scraps and different things that but
it all figured it out, and I go, I feel
like that's lost, And does that hurt things over?
Speaker 3: Like there's a fear like because of like well now podcast,
as we mentioned last segment, and these Netflix documentaries, now
more and more kids are getting snatched. Here's the thing.
I don't know anybody who's snatched growing up.
Speaker 1: Wait, more and more kids are getting.
Speaker 3: Snatched, you know, like like like kidnapping, right, and you
might hear about that once in a year on the
news or something locally. I'm not talking about nationally like
a Natalie Hollowey situation. I'm talking about locally, right. But
because of all these podcasts and true crime TV shows,
now we think our kids don't leave the house. Like
if you ever like follow a bus, like along a
road at bust stop, there's no bus stop in the
neighborhood anymore. They stop at every kid's house now, even
if it's five feet away. I mean, that's that's just
so inefficient. But yet parents don't are so scared that
their kid's going to be the next Netflix special.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 3: I think that's why. Like I saw some of it
this past week with my family. Like my one niece
wandered out to the pool. She wasn't going swimming. They
had a birthday party for my other niece, and my
sister in law tells my brother, hey, you gotta watch
your man. She was standing there all by herself, man,
because she was just by the pool. She was by herself.
She could have gotten snatched. I'm like, I could see
this being the prevailing thought. Yeah, she's just she's just
putting a mom.
Speaker 1: Or that she would have fallen into the pool and drowned.
Speaker 3: Could But like that's the thing, Like, you don't want
to be the You don't want to be the dumb
statistic and lived with that guilt the rest of your life,
you know. But I mean I think, like, yeah, like
you should let your kids go into the woods more often.
You should let your kids go to the playground. You
should let your kids be able to get out and
experience life and not just be on their phone all
day or playing Pokemon or doing whatever.
Speaker 1: I know, I agree, and I think the phone has
been tough.
Speaker 3: Now there's one thing I will ask you. This came
up today. I'm not gonna where, but somebody said, I
think all kids at eighteen years old should be given
two years of mandatory military service. It is real, and
I'm more and more I thought about it, you know,
because it's not the first time I've heard this. Yeah,
I don't think it's the worst idea. I don't. I
wouldn't want to do it, because clearly I didn't. I
went straight to college I didn't go in the military,
but I don't think it's the worst idea in the world.
But making everybody do it, would it make us a
more productive society. I think it would. I just don't
know if it's something that we need to do, do we.
Speaker 1: I sure I've heard this same thing for years. I
think it would give you structure. I think, you know,
you would learn things that you hadn't learned in life.
Speaker 3: Society would be more lubricated.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if some kind of service, whether it
be AmeriCorps, or you're going to another country to help
set up to be of service. That was one of
the things that you know, one of my guys who
went to McQuaid it was a bit it was a
private Jesuit school. You did of service, right, you wouldn't
needed to be of service. I think that's some real
valuable stuff. Mandatory military things. I don't know. I don't
know that you would get that through anymore, but maybe
I certainly could see. I think you would benefit. I
think any kind of structure that you have would help
you in life. You know, I think that we devalue
it a little bit because it's like, well, it's guns
and it's this, and it's military, and it's scary, and
it's war and that sort of thing. But I think
it's a disciplined lifestyle that yeah, there's a benefit to it. Yeah,
you know, I hope there never is a war. I
don't want to see that. I want to see that stuff.
Speaker 3: But something I've thought about though, you know, because yeah,
but we hear more.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's nice to sit on this end
of life and think about it because we wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have to do it well. And two,
we only hear like people like it's like Amazon reviews, right,
they're either four star or one star. They're never like
two or three stars. Those are the honest reviews. We
only hear about like the bad kids. We never hear
about the hundreds and thousands of good kids who like
do well, yes, proper And by the way, we have
a pretty well functioning society. I think we're doing okay.
We just hear about the bad news stories. Think that
that's the norm, right, it's not. No, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not beware of it, but it's not that I
always try to think statistically on things. Yeah, not statistically.
I just always just kind of go. You know, it's
not everybody, right, it's an unfortunate situation that happened. I home,
it doesn't happen to somebody.
Speaker 3: But now we do have I mean it is rising.
I mean we are hearing more about Kia boys and
stuff like that, but I mean, overall society is not
in that direction. No.
Speaker 1: And I even wonder in those situations, have we stifled
boys so much that that's what they're the ones that
are going out. And I'm not saying girls aren't part
of that, that's not, but it's majority is boys. And
I think in certain schools you're seeing more fights, and
I think you're it's because there's I don't know, gangs, whatever,
and I'm gonna stick up because they want to belong
to something. So they're belonging to something and instead of
having a figure authority in their life of any kind,
they're gonna find it, yeah, because they're craving it. And
I think that's the thing. You know, you want to box,
put on some gloves, will teat you how yeah, right,
you want to hit each other, Let's do it there.
It's a little safer and have some equipment on and
maybe you learn a skill and a discipline and you
maybe you love working out. Maybe some the next Mike
Tyson is found. I don't know, but you know, I
do think water seeks its own level at times, and
kids are going to find a way when exactly what
your dad said about the kids at church, they want that.
They know they're telling you or not, they want it.
And I think especially young boys, and I think that's
how some bad stuff happens sometimes and gangs and different things,
because they're looking for that structure and you know, and
support right and and for lack of a better term,
love away. Right, somebody gives a shit. I'm accountable for something.
They need me, I'm wanted. That's that kind of stuff,
all right, ramble too much. We'll take a moment. I
got a I actually have something that I'll ask for
advice on and maybe you'll have it, Danny. But Sammy,
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sparking Knights in the fall.
Speaker 3: On the Funday night.
Speaker 1: The battle again feel more than just face hell. It
is class Jenny in the healthy fats. Yes, Sundary, it's amazing,
raising the raising.
Speaker 3: Randy's on the violin or the fiddle. O. Yeah, look
at Brandy. I had no tell it's funny.
Speaker 1: Now here's the alternatives.
Speaker 3: Stands where Drew take flight.
Speaker 1: I don't like this one as well. The fight, so
talk to me about what happened in college football yesterday
because I which time I missed? Well, Ohio State, Michigan,
Michigan wins.
Speaker 3: So Michigan at seven and five, they just came off
a national championship and this year they just haven't been
that could But okay, that happened. Jim Harball, Yeah, Jim
Harbaugh's going on. They're not like taping the sidelines. They're
not getting signals anymore. So now, okay, So they go
up against the Ohio State University and it's considered the
game they've met one hundred and three times or something
like that, and you know, it's a rivalry. It's the
biggest rivalry in college football. It's a game where you
throw the records out, supposedly, and Ohio State's trying to
get in the playoff. Michigan's not gonna get in the playoff.
They're gonna at least get a bowl game, though, And
Michigan beats Ohio State yesterday. So what do teams do
after they win on the road against an archs rival.
Speaker 1: Because take their flag.
Speaker 3: They take their flag and they planet at midfield on
the logo of their opponent. People have done for years.
It's happened for years. Baker Mayfield did it with Oklahoma
as Ohio State. We see Ohio State and Oklahoma weren't rivals.
Michigan and Ohio State are, and so the Ohio State
took exception to Michigan doing this, and a fight ensued
at midfield, and some police officers decided to use pepper
pepper spray.
Speaker 1: I think got pepper sprayed.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I mean it's ridiculous. This is going on
and for years, and all of a sudden yesterday it
was funny because Gus Johnson's to play by play gu
and he's fantastic. Joe Clatt I think is the most
knowledgeable guy in college football, and it actually disagreed during
the melee. Guscha, you don't rub. The other teams knows it,
and Joel Clack goes, yeah, but it's a rivalry game.
They got to expect it. Clatt, who's played college football,
understands this, right. Yeah, Well that doesn't mean so they're
going they're not arguing with They're discussing because they have to.
But the point is, so then it happens again with
Florida and Florida State. Okay, did it happened?
Speaker 1: Again. Later, I was watching Florida Florida State. My sister
in law's father is part of the chain gag oh, okay,
all right for home games, okay, okay. And I don't
know where they were playing. I don't know where they come.
Speaker 3: If it was at FSU or I just heard that
this after.
Speaker 1: Florida was I mean, they were just opening it up
Solarida State that was not playing well, but they have.
Speaker 3: A Florida State's awful. Well.
Speaker 1: They have a freshman quarterback who's actually pretty good. He
had some but he had Their offensive line is.
Speaker 3: Florida State was in the national title conversation last year.
They didn't get in, and now we all know why
because they were terrible excuse me, and so Florida planted
the flag at midfield. They didn't like that. Another skirmish.
So so at College Station Texas where A and M
is playing A and M and Texas haven't played, I
guess in about fifteen years since conference switches and whatever.
So they finally get to play yesterday, and Texas, of course,
who's also in the playoff conversation, beats A and M.
They go to the do the same thing and Steve
Sarkisi and the head coach of Texas gets at midfield
is no, no, no, no, We're not doing this again because
they didn't want another incident, and he cooler heads prevailed.
But the thing is is, though, is that so many
people with Twitter atcous and microphones. We can't do this,
we can't allow this. And other people who have been
part of it, have actually been in athletics, have actually
played and said, you don't want this to happen. Win
the game, right, play defre I shut up. It's not
like they came out with guns and started taking They
just played the flag at midfield. Hey, we won today,
That's all it was.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because I'll get your opinion
on this. I I am fine with celebration, celebrating a
touchdown something lately, some of them annoy me a little
bit because whatever, But I'm not a big fan of
the point when you get the first down, even in
the pros, and you know, sort of in your face.
I'm like, hey, God, Barry Sanders, this.
Speaker 3: Right, come on, Thomas score yeah, and whatever.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just old guy talk. I don't but I again, okay, nobody,
I'll have a problem with if you're losing.
Speaker 3: And you do that. Yeah, if you if you're getting
your ass kicked, yay, first out, dude. Scoreboard.
Speaker 1: Uh, but I watched yesterday. I watched a little bit
of Florida State Florida game and it was on like
ESPN two was sort of hidden. Yeah, ESPN three, I
don't know where it was, neither teams. I was just
looking and I because of my my sister in law, Morgan,
that was just with her for Thanksgiving, I'll watch this
and they look like the momentum in the game was
about to change. Florida State's about to score. They're down
in the red zone and the quarterback does a pitch
out and the kid looks up. He thinks he has it,
looks up to see defender coming and never catches the
ball fumble right, and so they go, well, this team
is snake bitting baba. And I'm watching and one of
the players, uh, after the one of the big linemen
or whatever. After the play is over, the ball has
been fumbled and recovered, and he goes over and to
the guy who fumbled it. He kind of gets in
his face and hits him, and I'm like, why isn't
that unsportsmanlike conduct, like I don't care. The point is
one thing, say something as the guy walks back, but
then I mean he literally like shoved this guy. And
even on the replay, I'm like, god, damn, how did
they not given them? Yeah, I felt like the play
was over and the kids, his head's down and he's
kind of walking back and then everybody's kind of coming
back and he kind of pops them, pops him, basically
to go, I don't I thought for sure, now I
don't have a problem with the celebration thing. If all
of a sudden they're like cheering in your face, that's
part of it. But the almost punched the guy or
I think there was another time where they smacked like
the quarterback was had already gotten rid of the ball
whatever they smacked literally smacked him in the faith. And yeah,
I go, I'm not a fan of the dirty. That
stuff sounds dirty. You don't seem shitty and dirty. And
I go, aren't the old term of you're better than that?
I think that you're better than that. I would want
to be better than that. Now. I say that being
a hothead who in the moment if I, you know,
recovered the ball and was like, in your face. If
I dropped it, I wouldn't have been the guy did
a stand there. I think I would have gotten back
in that guy's face. So, you know, I sometimes feel
like I shouldn't say anything at all, but I do.
I was like, wow, I'm surprised they're not getting like
at least a five yard penalty for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be, well, it would be fifteen if
you throw a.
Speaker 1: Half fifteen to the end zone, so they would have been.
Speaker 3: Half the distance to the goal or whatever. But yeah,
that I mean, like, always try to be sportsmanlike, you know,
but the flag plan.
Speaker 1: Thing, if it's part of.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, I mean, there's the reason they call these
rivalry games. Oh that was that was ridiculous. And then
so so I'm a Michigan and Miami fan. The teams
have never played each other since eighty eight. Miami was
my team because of Jim Kelly and Bernie coast Are
their quarterback. You and then they had a pel Grant
scandal in the nineties. They were taking off television, so
I hated Notre Dame. Well, Michigan had these cool uniforms
and this guy named Desmond Howard who was the coolest
player at the time. So I rooted for Michigan because
they were on television. They had a lot of good
quarterbacks too, So I've always rooted for these two teams.
So I'm happy Michigan wins. Then i get to three
o'clock as Syracuse is playing Miami in Syracuse, and I
actually considered going to this game. It wasn't sold out
until like game time, and but I'm like, my wife
would probably not enjoy it. It's not the Bills, so nah, no,
no need. And Miami had a twenty one to seven league.
But Miami, if you ever watched Miami over the years,
they're that team that's always going to do something stupid
like you explained and shoot themselves in the feet, which
they did. Paul Finebaum once called them a third world program,
and get and Dan Lebotard. Dan LeBatard goes he needs
to apologize for that because Levatar's a pussy, and so
Paul Finemaum, who's like the godfather of college football talk, apologized, No,
they really are a third world program because they do
stupid stuff like that and shoot themselves in the feet
all the time. So when Syracuse beat them yesterday and
then storm the field. Yeah, I was not surprised because
fran Brown has that program turned around. Not all far
they're gonna go in the future, but man, he's a
hell of a recruiter and Syracuse has a bright future
with that guy at the Helm. They looked sharp yesterday
and they beat Miami, and they beat the fair and square,
and Miami looked dumbfounded at the end of that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Syracuse has really benefited from the transfer portal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's what they're gonna get most of their guys.
But they've always had You've always had a dome. Yeah,
you play indoors. Why would you not have one of
the top recruiter. I don't know, pretty programs in the country.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. It never made anything cause it's.
Speaker 3: Cold out, well it's cold out for basketball, but they
won a national championship twenty.
Speaker 1: Years ago, so they it's it's a weird. It is weird,
you're right, Uh, but I think it's great. And I
even last night there transfer portal is where they're finding.
Speaker 3: Yes to everybody's finding their players. Yeah, and it's it's
strange for Dion finds his players. He ain't recruiting high
school kids. He's just kidding, yeah, because they go quasi
professional talking about this freshman, true freshman quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think he's a true freshman quarterback for Florida State.
And this kid, like at times looked great, but he
was under pressure all day. I mean he was running
for his life. Oh yeah, the offensive line is terrible.
And the announcers go, well, they're going to have to
go into the transfer portal to beep up that line,
and I go, wait what, yeah, wait what? And I
went sure, Okay, how.
Speaker 3: Are they going to do it? Because now now into
college football, it's all about reloading. Yeah, it's all about reloading.
Like Colorado last year, Dion went from a one win
team to a six or seven win team just because
of Dion's presence alone, and like not only his recruitment up,
but enrollment is up. Like people want to go to
Colorado because of because of coach Prime. Now. I think
he's a little bit of a of a jackwagon lately,
but you can't deny the success he's had. He may
end up coaching the Cowboys next time. You know, I
don't know if that's a great idea.
Speaker 1: People think that Jerry's too racist to hire a black coach.
Speaker 3: No, Jerry, it's not. I don't think Jerry's a racist
at all. I think Jerry's ego is an issue. Jerry's
gotta be the reason that they win.
Speaker 1: Well, he's the only owner that they the reason they lose.
But he's Yeah, he's the only owner. They talked to
him before a head coach.
Speaker 3: They talked to him, talk to the coaches, host game
press conference, and then he has his own show on Mondays, sold.
Speaker 1: People that he was gonna get He's gonna get them fired.
Speaker 3: Right the radio, I run, I run the lead, which
he does. It's on all the ex cowboys who are
broadcasting that who aren't even that good. Oh, by the way,
you George football and Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: You had to uh uh I a little bit.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: I did, not a lot, but not a lot. I
watched the game.
Speaker 3: Imagine getting fired the day on Black Friday because in
your last thirty seconds of a game, Yeah, you didn't
call time out and your quarterback Dilly dally the light
of scroage. You're talking about Chicago funks. Yeah, Matt Abraflues
gets fired. Yeah. Then the four o'clock game nobody wants
to watch, right, supposedly nobody wants to watch. It was
like the fifth highest rated regular season game, and like
when you're in Kansas Raiders. No, the second game was
the Giants and Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Oh I barely watched it.
Speaker 3: Wait when what was pretty a million people watched that game? Billy?
Speaker 1: Was the Black Friday game Kansas City and the Raiders. Yes, okay,
so that's where one I watched, Like I didn't really
see much football on on oh gosh, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: So the night game was the was the Packers beating
the Dolphins? Yeah, making great And so apparently McDaniel in
his last twelve games or last eleven games against uh
plus five hundred oponentis is like one and eleven, right,
and they can't win like under forty degrees. So it
was like you, you might as well just put all
your money, your life saving's on Green Bay that night.
You would have come back double then that the Vegas
Chiefs game, Vegas is driving down the field like, oh
my gosh, all they need is a field goal to
win this game exactly, and you're like, how is the
other shoe going to drop? And how did it drop?
The center got nervous and snapped the ball quarterback this
kid o'cond a litle.
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting it. I had the sound down because
nobody is a football fan other than like my kids,
and they were, you know, around family and stuff, but
nobody else. So I just said, can I have the
game on with the soundown? I don't need to. I
can watch. I can tell what's happening. So I didn't
see that. I didn't see how the game ended, so
and I was so all I thought was, boy, Kansas
City is vulnerable.
Speaker 3: Oh they are, They're very My wife who's watching football
all of five years, now, you know, Kansas City's not
that good, are they? They go, Wow, you're right, yeah,
they go.
Speaker 1: I mean I would say vulnerable. I think they're good
and they're Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Have you seen all the ways that they have won
this year. It's ridiculous. It is just the amount of
luck that they've had going their way. The only thing
to beat them, of course, the Buffalo Bills, But I mean, kids,
the Bills could have used the Raiders' help and they
didn't get it. And by the way, they were two
flags thrown on that last play. The one ref is
running in with a false start meeting the place shouldn't
have happened. The other ref said it was an illegal formation.
They talk it over now, chiefs Paul, Well, if it
was a false start, the illegal formation should never have
happened in the first place. But then Herbstreet explained the
rule and blah blah blah and this and that, and
it's like they will explain away anything. In the NFL,
they will explain away anything. And I'm not an anti
refs guy, but holy cow, oh my gosh, it's just
there's just too many coincidences.
Speaker 1: The uh, well, it's fun with sport, and you know,
my guys have played and joy sports. My brother was
never a team sport guy. So his seven year old
son is on like an elite skiing team, racing ski
racing team. Yeah, they were leaving.
Speaker 3: And then the summer he's on the rowing team.
Speaker 1: They were on the thing. They were leaving on Friday
and going or Saturday, going straight to the mountain where
they have their own little condo. And uh, yeah he's
on a ski and and his daughter plays field hockey stuff.
But they didn't nobody really cared. They're more into college
football than anything. And then my sister's kids. One is
uh one does a lot of hip hop dance, my nephew,
and he's great at it's very athletic. I mean it's
really athletic stuff. And my niece is a synchronized swimmer.
It's been in the Junior Olympics and everything. So like
everybody's into like, no one gives you it about football,
you know what I mean? Nobody cares.
Speaker 3: Thanks kidding? Yeah, wow, I know indiand of thals and
you have football sports. This is it.
Speaker 1: And so I was, I was interested in what was happening,
but I thought the Giants Cowboys game was or it
was the Giants Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was the four o'clock game. Yeah, thirty
eight million people watched that game that no one supposedly
cared about.
Speaker 1: So and who didn't win that Dallas one? And then
how come we're not going to see the Cowboys their
giants fire?
Speaker 3: Uh stable, because I think that what's happened, Well, look
at the Jets, right, yeah, Woody Johnson's become a laughing stock.
And the Jets have gone through this rotating cast of
different coaches, different quarterback to they just fired their they
fired their head coach. They did, but they you don't
want to be the franchise. Let's put it this way.
When there's when there's two laughing stocks in New York,
you want to be less of the laugh of the
laughing stock. And the Jets have already clinched the laughing
stock of New York team. So the Maras of the Tishes,
who are a little bit more reasonable, they have won
super Bowls. They're like, listen, if we fired Dable and
Joe Shane, we're going at least if we fire him
mid season, they might fire him at the end of
the season. But if we fire him now, we're gonna
look just as silly as as the Jets. And no
one's gonna want to come here for this job. So
we have to make it look like, hey, if you
come to New York you coach the Giants, we're gonna
have your back. We signed you for five years, you're
gonna be here at least four. I think they want
to set an example that, hey, let Brian Dable get
his quarterback right then. I think he went to them
and said, well, I can win with I. Can you
ever tell the boss what he wants to hear?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then your ego plays into it. Yeah, I
can fix him, I think Brian Dabeles said I could.
I could fix I got Josh Allen to play football.
I can fix Daniel Jokes. You just wait you pay him? Yeah,
because hu yeah duke, right, I mean that's like, okay,
that's like being at Saint Bonaventure for basketball. We're good,
duke and football is like what Bondaventure is. The basketball.
They're nice, but you know they're not duke of basketball,
you know. And yeah, I mean I think that they
want that, the Maras want to give these guys one
more shot, one more here. Hey, you get your quarterback
because you're gonna be picking early. Yeah, you get your quarterback, right, Okay?
Then well then you know, well, because they don't want
to become the Jets. They don't want to become a
revolving door or a punchline in New York. And right
now the Jets have clinched that.
Speaker 1: Have they ever? Uh, you know, speaking of sports and stuff,
basketball tryouts for this week and I for Jamison, yeah, voice,
he like it's all consuming to him, like he's so
nervous and he's going to me not ready, I'm not
I'm not in basketball shape. I'm not doing bad. And
I said, well, you went to the workouts, you did this, Yeah,
but I haven't. You know what if I just what
if I don't make it, You're gonna be disappointed in me.
And I said no. So then he says to me today,
He's like, you know, I don't even want to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But h I said, well, if you don't want to
do it, then don't do it. Don't be passive aggressive dead.
And I'm like, that's not passive aggressive it has nothing
to do with me. I just know you love this game,
you enjoyed playing it. You want to play for these guys.
You've got a coach at your school who runs the
program that is works with NBA guys and is a
junior Olympic coach and has done the under eighteen teams
and all this other stuff and knows the best of
the best. Why wouldn't you want to just at least
give it a shot? And I go, I said to him, what,
just your size alone.
Speaker 3: There are guys bigger than me.
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, but you're also big, Like you're not
a tall, skinny guy, right, You're a tall, big guy.
And he's like, I don't know. So the tryouts tomorrow, Well,
everything nowadays is online to sign up. I didn't realize that.
And the day that they had a meeting after school
if you were interested in basketball, I took come out
early for an appointment again, and he goes, oh, I
missed the meeting. I go, well, find out what happened.
Find out what went on. That's no big deal. Tryouts
or December second. Well you begin December second, Well, you
have to sign up online prior and it closed. So
I'm looking to look and I find it it closed
November twenty first. So now I'm like the shitty parent
begging to like sending emails going.
Speaker 3: Hey, yeah I know, And I go.
Speaker 1: And he's going to and I swear to god, I
feel like and I may be wrong in some way.
He just wants he's not comm he has no confidence
in him, in himself. It's new kids. It's kids that
he doesn't really hang out with that are on the
basketball team. He feels like those kids don't like him.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 1: He pretty much said it. And I'm like, I think
that's all in your head. Can be find and I
don't know how to because he talks about it as
though it's a punishment.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. I don't want it when I'm
gonna do.
Speaker 1: It, And I'm like, I think you really do want to.
I think that if you make the team, it'll be
the greatest thing. If you don't make the team, it's
gonna be disappointing, but we'll figure something out. But I
might it's gonna be disappointing for you.
Speaker 3: You're the one that's gonna have to live with the
regret Friday night, and I go to yeah, if it's hey, look,
you're the one who's going to live with the regret
if you don't try out.
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I keep saying to him and
I and I at.
Speaker 3: Least, so here's the thing. You try out, Yeah, you
make the team. Great, you don't make the team, Hey, coach,
can I talk to you about why I didn't make
the team? What do I need to work on? What
do I need to get better at? And then you
work on those things that next year you will make
that team. By the way, you know, it's like it's
not like the old days where you can only make
varsity your JV and that was it. There was no
freshman team.
Speaker 1: This is all freshmen.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is all freshmen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the modified teams.
Speaker 3: But I mean like there's other teams that you can make.
There's other opportunities. You know, you work your way up,
you know. And then you give him the speech about
Michael Jordan making not making his varsity team when he
was like four years old, and.
Speaker 1: Because he said I want to plan B, and I said.
Speaker 3: I took that I never had a plan B.
Speaker 1: He goes, well, I go, I just never had a
plan B.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't plan out that far. I didn't go, if
this doesn't work out, i'll do this. I was just like,
this will work out.
Speaker 3: That's it. Like I was a terrible athlete growing up,
and my father tore his rotator cuff throwing me fly
balls and tried to get me to get better, and
eventually I got I was I was, Okay, I work
my way up to mediocre, you know. But you know,
one thing I do regret is that I didn't work
harder when when I got cut from a team that
I didn't like, work harder at trying to be but
I just like, well, I just was not that good
and that's it. And I just like went into coaching instead,
because well, Dan, you know the game really well, you're
just not good at it. But I mean, I wish I.
Speaker 1: Had like a crippled guy that can really go right.
Speaker 3: So like you coach first base, you keep scoring. And
I was trying to kill that reputation. But the point
I wish I had just like, you know, gone out
of my way to work on the things that I
need to work on to make a team and talk
to the coach. But instead of just saying, well that's
just me. You got to be able to figure that out.
And if I James, if you don't make the team,
it's not the end of the world. Work on what
you can work on, lift those weights, get in shape,
and say hey, next year, I'm gonna be on this team.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, can I just go to the y
every day and work on my own and then we'll
next year I'll make the team. And I'm like, no,
You're gonna try out because I know you want to. Yeah,
and I have a feeling that you'll make the team. Yeah,
I just believe in my gut you will.
Speaker 3: I think Matt Jones has this thing called hoop strength,
where like, yes he trains kids out of the make
basketball team.
Speaker 1: We will, we will work and we'll get into that,
but let's get this done. See where we're at, and
then we'll go to like hoop strength and AAU teams.
But I want to let's do this first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see where you're at.
Speaker 1: Gage you all right, Well, take a moment. A couple
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when night prayer.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Two weeks back to Savior.
Speaker 5: Oh you're it's out to Gavinandi to favor.
Speaker 1: I really like his voice a lot. My wife likes
him a lot. But I always say.
Speaker 3: He's like a talk with some.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I think that. I think if
I like v or eight here, I would wind up
hugging the guy by the time he left. I truly
believe that. I think he and I and anybody he
just has a way of connecting with people.
Speaker 3: Yes he does.
Speaker 1: But but I think this song is so I remember
going to church as a kid and the pastor's saying
so quick to ask, so slow to thank yes when
it came to right, And this is what that song is.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, that is absolutely what that song is about.
And it's I tell people, I've learned this the last year.
Like the last year I've really been attending church. I
used to just walk after the pandemic, just watch them, like, hey,
what's the difference. Right now I've been attending to the
last year. And prayer is the battle. Don't kid yourself. Yeah,
prayer is the battle. Like there's this one minister's name
is Paul Washer and a lot of people because he's
a Calvinist, you know, give him some crap, but there's
some stuff I agree with him on. And one of
them me goes the Bible. There's only one hero in
the story. It's Jesus, right, everybody else Like, no matter
how you you how like you know, well thought of
they were, whether they were Moses or whomever, they were
weak men who were delivered because they were men of prayer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotcha.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, they were weak men,
but they knew they were weak, and they asked God
for help, and not just when they needed it, but
all that all right, so that when trouble came, they
already knew what they were going to do and how
to do it because they had already been praying. It's
like practice. Yeah, you developed that prayer muscle, so develop it.
You'd be amazed. What can happen?
Speaker 1: Yes, that's all. Yeah, I hear you. I I I
I don't know. They have different thoughts, but they're not
that far away. I don't I'm not that far away
from yours. They're not prayers the battle, but the prayer
for you guys.
Speaker 3: For this show. It takes like fifteen minutes just to
get through everybody and all.
Speaker 1: Their problems, all their problems. So quick to ask, so
slow to think. So my father had announced last year
that he was paying for Thanksgiving dinner, and we had
gone to Mere Bow in Rhyme back. That's a big deal, man, Yeah,
And so it was a private we had a private
room and stuff. And then he he was getting kind
of grumpy over.
Speaker 3: Uh, Jordan's built liquor bill.
Speaker 1: No, it was Jackson ordered of Manhattan and he was
moving there. And then he had another he ordered a
second one Island at eight at eighteen dollars a pop.
And then the wine bottles were coming and he's going,
I don't know what you know how much the wine
is because it's there's no prices on the menu.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So we wind up asking and he finds out it's
seventy eight dollars a bottle, and he wouldn't let it die.
Of Black Friday, we're walking through Abigo. You want to
go in liquor store shop in the front of there's
somebody a doll bottle of one?
Speaker 3: What do you want to do? So this is this year.
Speaker 1: We wind up going to a different restaurant. It is
not Mirbo.
Speaker 3: It's called Pho.
Speaker 1: It's got a cheesy name, at least my brother and
I thought it was a cheesy name. But it had
a very nice interior, and in the summer, I would
think it's a really great spot. It's called Shadows on
the Hudson. It's right on the Hudson. It's not cheesy shadow.
Speaker 3: It's a cracker barrel maybe, But there's a wine.
Speaker 1: There's people waiting. We had reservations, obviously everybody did, but they,
you know, turned the tables over and stuff, and so
it's a little more of a crowded wrestaurant. And my
first thing is to kind of turn my nose up
better because I'm a fucking snob.
Speaker 3: I will shadows the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm like, all right, it sounds like an
eighties rock album. So I again wind up sitting near
my dad and it's coming around for wine and my father.
So I have this big thing my father is referring
to as the Bible that has every bottle of wine,
and they have I'll always say it wrong. I'll sew
my a who's good won't come over to the table.
So he's got me paranoid because even before going, he
walks up to me and Jackson and he goes, uh, no, no,
no more eighteen bottle because he's gonna pay again, no
more eighteen dollars drinks and blah blah blah, and Jackson
says to him, keep it up, and I'm gonna order
McAllen twelve year and I don't even like Scotch, and
I go, Jackson, you can't.
Speaker 3: He doesn't respond, don't don't you don't want up your
grandfather joke. So that's something time he would drink.
Speaker 1: I had him a calend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, I'm brought out a robbers Alen's house. That's excellent.
So I was a life oft the paroney, so.
Speaker 1: I said, so we get there and now we wound
up sitting down and everybody's kind of going around what
they're gonna get. Jackson orders the guinness. Then there's wine.
Should we get it by the glass? So he's like,
so I get the big thing out and the bottles
are running like one hundred and twenty. But there's forty
five dollars bottles of wine. Yeah, peanut and no water.
Forty five dollars probably retails for eighteen, and they're gonna
charge you forty five, of course on the cheaper end
of the list. So my father's like, go off the menu.
I put down the Bible. I don't trust you with
that Bible. I'm going, holy shit. So I'm I'm close
to him. It's me Jamison, my dad, Jackson. Then it's
my mom sitting across from me. It's Jordan to my left,
but he's preoccupied with his girlfriend and she's, you know,
he's trying to make sure everybody's interacting, and she was lovely.
Speaker 3: She fitting great.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there and I'm I'm paying attention to
my father and I'll sometimes I just start laughing when
I look at him. He goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's
so funny. I go, what's so funny?
Speaker 3: I go? You?
Speaker 1: I go, you make this thing like you're a thousand
are you're gonna pay for everybody?
Speaker 3: Oh? Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 1: But isn't my father my whole life, my whole life.
You would say things like, hey, sky's the limit, kids,
And my brother decides to set the world record for
the most coach coach strength, and my father goes, oh, whoa,
all these coachs. You said, Sky's the limit? You know
what I'm saying? Like, or mo, my wallet's so full,
it's purpect what do you mean? It would go from
that to absolute devastation. There would be no money whatsoever.
So and it's nice that he's taking everybody out. There's
seventeen people, right or something like that.
Speaker 3: So Chris in the non smoking section.
Speaker 1: So so now he's going or off the menu, just
the regular menu. Put that Bible away that you're you're
scaring me. So I started laughing at my mother says, well,
it's going to get more expensive by the glass. I said,
because the bottle is forty five dollars. But you'll run
into that after three glasses of wine, And how many
people want one so I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't care. Whatever you want to do, what I
want to do.
Speaker 1: And then without me knowing, my brother, who wore a
very like bought these jackets for he and his son
that were unique for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: Cute they have tails on them. No, okay, they just.
Speaker 1: Look like they look like the blackboards you would scratch
and different colors come through, like different designs on.
Speaker 3: It was cute. So uh.
Speaker 1: He talks to the waitress and has started a separate
bill for booze. But I'm not aware of this, so
I order, So I order a bottle of wine. This
comes over. He does the whole presentation, he's talking, he's
like a smelling yeah. And it's a twist off, by
the way, which is a still a good wine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Don't turn your nose up at a twist cut. It
is so and this was a decent again, I think
if you were to buy it, it was eighteen bucks in
a liquor store, forty five at the restaurant. Okay, lower
lower end, lower end of their menu. So uh, we
have that. We end up getting three bottles. But as
I said to my phone, it seventy eight dollars. Like
last year. You got too much. So then all of
a sudden at the end, everybody is ordering Espresso Martinez,
and poor Jackson is diagonally across from me, and he goes, oh,
I want that, and I go, no, no, because I
don't know what's happening. I don't realize that my brother
has set up a separate bill that's just for liquor,
and that he and my sister were gonna split. They
don't even consult, like they're across from me. So but
I can't figure it. So Kevin every once in a
while is catching me, and I'm getting earfulls from my dad.
Oh so Jackson even wanted wine. I go, no, you've
had you have a Guinness in front of you. You
stick with the Guinness. Fine. He It keeps. This goes on.
Now my father sees the Martiniz. He's going and he's saying,
and he says to me, this is an this is
emotional torture. And I'm like laughing a little bit because
I'm uncomfortable, and he's getting pissed, and I'm like, you
just want to enjoy the meal and enjoy the company,
but you're sort of on pins and needles and you
feel like a little kid again that you're gonna get
in trouble if you do something.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yes, and you're fucking fifty three.
Speaker 3: So I have.
Speaker 1: So I'm listening to him and he goes, this is
emotional torture. Thats what you guys do. You think it's funny,
but it's emotional torture. And I'm going, no, one's trying
to fucking torch god damn.
Speaker 3: So the drinks come.
Speaker 1: Then I find out and Kevin's like, uh, with the
espresso Martinez. And Kevin's like, oh it goes, I started
a separate bill. The bills come. We drank almost four
hundred dollars worth of booze with everybody, and it was
six hundred dollars and something for the food. My father
finds out that there's well, no woa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
I set up paying all it, bring it all up,
blah blah.
Speaker 3: Blah, episode of the prices right here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, so, Kevin's like, no, Kate and I
are gonna split this. I go, why did you ask me? Goes,
I don't even worry about it. He goes, you hardly drank.
He didn't and I'm like, yeah, but my kids, and
he goes, WHOA, who's Jackson. Jordan goes to, don't worryback.
So my father insists, I said, I'm paying for all
of it. I'm paying for all of it. So he's
and it's doing all the stuff. Everything comes back. He goes, oh,
it's just seven hundred dollars cheaper than last years, cheaper
than the last year. And I'm like, who's getting emotionally
tortured here? Me because I'm the one who has to
sit next to you, and I'm the oldest, and I'm
getting it in my ear about bye bye bye. And
it's my kid who drank the eighteen dollar martini last
year and then ordered another one and how rude that was,
blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm like, I'm fucking
it was driving me nuts. Oh, but it was delightful,
I mean, in his own way, it was delightful because
there was something very entertaining going on. This in the summertime,
it does. They have a beautiful deck and it overlooks
and you're you know, you got the Catskill Mountains and
the Berkshires and it's all along the Hudson and it's beautiful.
You're right there in the bridge, the mid Hudson Bridges
all lit up, and we have playing in the background. Yeah,
and we had.
Speaker 3: Gotten in New York straight of mine.
Speaker 1: So you have or or watching all this stuff. And
there's this lady and she's from Russia and she was smoking,
and she lights up a cigarette in the fucking round.
Speaker 3: She lights it up. Anybody she's old. It's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: They descend and then so now they can't stop her
because she keeps. They tell her to put it out.
She gets up from her table again, she lights up
another one. They're going whoa, whoa. So finally they allow
her to go outside. So two of my guys wanted
to see the bridge and everything and see this deck
and patio and it's really looks like in the summer
that this shadows place looks great. So she's out there smoking,
but she gets up four or five, she's in and
out of that thing. They're apologizing to patrons who are
sitting near the door in this other dining area she's smoking.
She's walking through. It was entertaining, so that that took
some of the pressure off the other other shit. But
god damn emotional torture, and I'm like, I love the guy.
But man, it's like, yes, we're.
Speaker 3: Doing Oh yeah, wow, like your father and I. My
father are like way different. My father used to say,
if you have to ask for the price, this is
what my.
Speaker 1: Father said the same.
Speaker 3: But my father would never readig on that. No, he
thrived on PEG for everything. Yes, and so does my
dad secretly, but then he doesn't want you. But then
he finds it rude when at eighteen dollars of Manhattan,
but we don't know the price of the Manhattan until
the bill comes right right that you're ordering a second
one market second market price, right market price today, I
don't know. I'll have two. Let me ask you one
other thing I told you about my family. I thanks,
So we uh so I bought everybody breakfast the next day.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've worked as a waiter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had Like my my my family's not
good at organization. My wife is the queen of organization.
So you see two trains heading at the same time
to it, they're going to hit each other at some point.
It was my niece's birthday on Wednesday, so they throw
a party for her and my sister in law goes, hey, Beth,
you might help me out, you know, putting this together
with Dan, with the Dan and Joel's mom, and my
wife's like sure, and but like she's trying to like
organize it and get it going right. Well, eventually they
pulled it off. Thursday, we had Thanksgiving. Of course it
went well, we did well. So we show up at
the house thinking that everything at my brother's house. Are
gonna go to my mother's thinking everything's already ready, and
then we just got to leave the car on go
grab the desserts to go. Oh no, they're not even
dressed yet. So all right, let's park the car. Let's
hang out for a while. So two hours later, everybody's
ready to go. Great, we go over, but everything went
off without a hitch. So Friday we're heading back. I decide, hey,
let's all get breakfast together. We're going to Denny's. I'm
making a decision. Ten o'clock Wendy or ten o'clock Denny's.
On Friday, we all meet up at Denny's. Okay, we
go there, except there's only one waitress. You see, Denny's
is still one of those places where you only see
one waitress. Nowadays you see more than one person. Denny's
is still an old school where you only see one
one waitress. Okay, so they don't have people helping out
with the food. It's like she's got to make several
trips and you got like fifteen people there. The first
person she asks to order is my sister in law,
and she got she makes a special order. Okay, so
for this grand slam for a kid, can I get
one chicken finger and then two pancakes to go with this?
And I go, we just used up all our good
will the waitress and the first order. No special orders, guys,
we can't do it. They'll screw it up. I guarantee
it to their credit.
Speaker 1: They pull it off.
Speaker 3: But it's like here, sit there like so, but you were,
like my sister in law kept demanding more and more stuff,
and she doesn't realize that she's coming off kind of snewed.
He's not intending to be at all. She's just like, oh,
can we more napkins?
Speaker 1: Not please?
Speaker 3: My brother goes, can you say please? Please? Hey? Can
we have more water? It's like it's always when the
waitress's back has turned and heading the day other direction. Oh,
more coffee please, And I'm like, oh my gosh, the
tip I'm gonna have to I could feel the tip
going up higher and higher and higher and higher and
higher every time by sister, her laws. Suck it up,
suck it up, guy. So we took care of it. It
was all good. It felt good to do it. But
my brother sure you sure? I'm like, I got don't
worry with my wife, like I know, it's okay, I
got it. Don't worry, don't worry. But like, would you
would you do that with the with a table of
fifteen people? Would you ask for special orders like that? Yes,
you're guaranteed to have something screw up and eventually the
waitress is just going to give up on you. Yeah.
So it's like, okay, let's not use all our good
will on the first order.
Speaker 1: We always ends up at Pete's famous in Rhynebanck and Uh.
If you have Disney Plus, you'll see Pete's famous ads
there because it's the interviewed family that went to Disney
about their trip at Pete's Famous in Rhinebeck. Oh, okay
of runs on Disney Plus. He's a nephew in Virginia
see it and uh, I don't have Disney by it,
but so it's kind of a known place and we
do the same thing. We wound up all of us
like usually Grandpa fitz Bill for that. This year we
were all like my sister and I split our table.
My brother probably, I don't know, it doesn't matter. It
was all fine. But on the way back, I talked
to you about the the red bull and the coke
and all that stuff. Danny. I, I don't know what
happened with the coffee and everything I got. Jameson wanted
to stop at Target because my father gave her all
the grandkids fifty dollars gift.
Speaker 3: Cards to Target for Christmas.
Speaker 1: Are just true, Well for them to do shopping and
to learn to budget a little bit, okay, Jamesons with
free money, well budget you know, hey mom and dad,
this I'll buy this. It helps you do your shopping. Yeah,
and uh so, and I think and then hands us
all money and goes, I'm not going to any stores.
This is for Christmas.
Speaker 3: You do it. Put my name on it, all right.
Speaker 1: So but I get to So we went up at
Target and I go, James, I have to go to
the bathroom and I going I gotta go to the bathroom.
So he's in there with me, and I am. I
got a symphony going on in this bathroom. And I
finish up and he goes. He's he's like peeking through
the crack in the stall. That's weird to make fun
of me. You're still in there, you're doing so Now
I get out. He goes, I had flushed. He goes
over and he goes really loud as just somebody walks in,
but he just thinks it's he and I and somebody's
walking in. He goes, Dad, what'd you do? Don't put
jar peanut butter in this shaw?
Speaker 3: Hey? Aren't you? Bill Moran? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Like I never want I can't. I don't like going
number two in a public place, right especially, but the
this was like I was pushed.
Speaker 3: To the limit.
Speaker 1: Man, There was no it was a four hour plus
car ride and I had no id.
Speaker 3: Make a soft serve exactly.
Speaker 1: I always call it the human smooth.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, you know that that that you know
the It's just I mean, if you're gonna do it,
do it somewhere else. That's my philosophy. Don't do it
at your toilets. Save that for some like save that
for target.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know I hit the target.
Speaker 3: You walk out of the bat like what Like one
time you and I were in the bathroom with a
coworker and he walks out of the stall and walk
and he goes, hey, you might want to just close
your nose. You told them it's a bathroom.
Speaker 1: What do we bathroom?
Speaker 3: But we all think that we you know, our crap
doesn't stick. It does, but it's okay when it's just DUTs.
I want somebody thinking that I smell like that, Well
what do you think everybody else does?
Speaker 1: My favorite is when somebody's like, I know they're mid dump. Well,
this is something I used to do. Is if I
know they're in mid dump and they're in the bat
you know you can see them through the stall, scroll
on their phone, turn the light off and leave.
Speaker 3: You don't your God, damn it.
Speaker 1: The childish antics, Danny, the childish antics. But I'm thankful
for Dan.
Speaker 3: Barillo, grateful for you guys too.
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for Kevin and Danny who've been here since
the beginning, and I expressed that to each of you.
I even expressed that at the beginning of another podcast.
When you both weren't here for it. That's awesome talking
behind your back. I appreciate your back, but and I'm
very thankful to you and thank you for listening. And
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