1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigla Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,880 this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,720 you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen 4 00:00:13,839 --> 00:00:17,879 something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,719 quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,719 and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. 7 00:00:25,719 --> 00:00:29,000 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. 8 00:00:29,079 --> 00:00:32,439 To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,159 just might change the way you see the woods forever. 10 00:00:35,439 --> 00:00:38,200 So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,320 as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates 12 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:45,840 about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,920 link in the show notes. Thank you. You've got the 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,159 privilege of talking to ar La Collette Williams tonight. She's 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,600 an individual that has known Bigfoot for the last seventy years. 16 00:00:57,719 --> 00:01:02,039 She's got a lot to share about that time that 17 00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:07,400 she's been one that has known Bigfoot, and I'm excited 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,120 to talk to you today. Arla, your name has come 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,000 up in a few conversations, but it's great to finally 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,560 be able to get you on the phone, and how 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,400 are you doing tonight. 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I love to talk about my life. 23 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:27,079 And you know, I came into this several years ago. 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,519 I got dropped down into the research community and I 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,439 just started sharing. I'm not a researcher at all. I 26 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:40,719 don't research. I've you know, known him or almost all 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,719 my life, so I don't research. I do document, you know, 28 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:53,200 some things, but I don't need to research to prove anything. Actually, 29 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:59,040 I'm not about proving anything anyway. I just share my experiences. 30 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:04,959 Speaker 1: That's awesome. And you're from the great state of Oklahoma, correct, 31 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:08,840 I am very cool, very cool. I bet you that 32 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,800 lends itself to some really interesting interactions dound there. But Arla, 33 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:15,479 how far back do we want to go? Do we 34 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,879 want to go all the way back to the beginning 35 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,479 of when when you think you had your your first 36 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:25,319 interaction you said, it's it's maybe a little hard to remember, 37 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:29,680 but your your mom has told you about that that 38 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,400 time period. 39 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:38,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I had my first What I remember as 40 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:44,439 an experience was I was sick, and I was at 41 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:48,719 my grandmother's and I was outside sitting on the ground 42 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,400 playing in the dirt with sticks and flowers and rocks, 43 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,159 and I love to do that. And so I was 44 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,960 sitting there playing and I heard some one walk up 45 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,479 and I thought it was my grandmother. And when I 46 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:10,879 looked up, it wasn't my grandmother. It was what I've 47 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,280 come to call a hairy kid, which was a young 48 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,759 juvenile male, and he probably, you know, I just have 49 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,879 to guess it how far, but I know he wasn't 50 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,199 very far from me, maybe ten or fifteen feet, you know, 51 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,439 from me. We looked at each other for a little while, 52 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:39,400 you know, and I think that's a hairy kid, because 53 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:45,639 that was my only reference that what this was. I 54 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:51,960 knew that, you know, he looked kind of human, but 55 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:56,319 that was in my mind. So after a little while, 56 00:03:56,879 --> 00:03:59,840 he turned around and walked back off into the wood, 57 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:05,080 and I jumped up and went in and told my 58 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:11,000 grandmother what i'd seen, and she said, you know, I 59 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,639 asked her, I said, what was that, Granny? And she said, 60 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,959 what do you think it was? And so she let 61 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,720 me think about it for a little while, and then 62 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,959 she started to teach me about them because she knew 63 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:33,319 also and had known her whole life as well. The 64 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:39,360 actual encounter that I was talking about, I was free, 65 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,839 and I was sitting on the bed in my mom 66 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:49,040 and dad's bedroom and the back window was open, and 67 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,680 my dad was taking a bath. Mom was in the 68 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,759 closet getting clothes ready for the next day, and she 69 00:04:56,959 --> 00:05:02,639 heard me talking to someone, and so she came out 70 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:07,000 of the closet and she looked at the window and 71 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:11,240 she screamed for my dad and she said, Arla's talking 72 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:17,839 to a dirty, hairy man. Well, Mom and I were 73 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:25,879 talking several years ago, and she asked me, she said, Arlet, 74 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:29,319 do you remember that time, and she went through the 75 00:05:29,399 --> 00:05:34,120 story and I said, yes, Mom, I do, because I remember, 76 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:38,519 you know, you screaming, and I remember Dad coming out 77 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,000 of the bathroom and he went to the kitchen and 78 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,120 he got a butcher knife and ran out the door. 79 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:51,399 And she looked at me and she said, do you 80 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,199 think that was a bigfoot? And I said, well, Mom, 81 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:03,360 what do you think? And she said I saw bigfoot? 82 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:09,439 And I said, yes, Mom, I think you did, so 83 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:14,680 that you know at that time, at three, I talked 84 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:20,040 to everything. It's just always been what I've done ever 85 00:06:20,079 --> 00:06:24,399 since I was little. I started running off to the woods. 86 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,920 When I could walk really good and get away. I 87 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:34,600 would just take off and so it you know, at three, 88 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:38,079 of course I didn't have it in my mind what 89 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:45,920 a bigfoot would be. But at six I knew that, 90 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:51,240 you know, this was a hairy kid, and I'd never 91 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,360 seen a hairy kid before like this. And then of 92 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,920 course my grandmothers then a little later, began to teach 93 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,040 me about them. 94 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,319 Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's fascinating. What area of Oklahoma. 95 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: Was this in? It is? Well, it was about probably 96 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:20,160 forty five miles from Tulsa, Oklahoma, which would be kind 97 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,399 of in the eastern part of the state. I live 98 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,399 in the southeastern part of the state now, but that 99 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:35,399 was it's probably where that happened, maybe fifty miles as 100 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,279 the crow flies from where I live now. 101 00:07:39,879 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: Is that a Would that be in a certain county? 102 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be in Okmoggie County. 103 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Actually interesting, I think it's it's incredibly interesting how your 104 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:03,000 grandmother seems to be really, really familiar with the bigfoot, 105 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,000 but yet your mom like that's her introduction to them. 106 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, my mom was afraid of everything when she 107 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:20,279 was lit. She just you know, as to whether my 108 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:24,480 grandmother would have ever taught me about them, you know, 109 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,040 like she did if I hadn't had that encounter. I 110 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:35,639 don't know if she would or not. After that, of course, 111 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:40,679 it opened my whole world to them. One of the 112 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,440 things we didn't do when I was young and growing 113 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,960 up fan For many years, we didn't talk about them 114 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,240 in public or I mean, we might have friends or 115 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,200 something that we would talk with, but we just didn't 116 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,440 talk about talk about them at all. 117 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Why do you think that that was that they weren't 118 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,200 talked about. 119 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure there were probably a lot of reasons, 120 00:09:14,919 --> 00:09:18,840 part of that being people would think you're crazy, but 121 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:24,200 it was more than that. You know, you had a 122 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,919 lot of people that just you just didn't talk about it. 123 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:35,679 They were special and not everybody saw them. And so, 124 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,840 you know, it's only been probably i would say, in 125 00:09:40,919 --> 00:09:47,559 the last ten years, maybe fifteen, this whole topic has exploded, 126 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:55,840 and before that you just you just didn't hear much 127 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,080 about it, other than maybe in a magazine or you 128 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:04,639 know whatever. Of course, the Patterson Gimlin film that was 129 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:11,320 in sixty seven it opened up talk about it, but 130 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:16,519 we still didn't, you know, talk openly about it. 131 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned that your grandmother taught you a lot of 132 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:29,960 things regarding this topic. Do you remember any things that 133 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,159 she taught you that really stand out in your mind 134 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,840 after all these years. 135 00:10:36,759 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: Everything she taught me was important. One of the things 136 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,879 that she said is they are are neighbors, and as 137 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:53,480 our neighbors, we are to be respectful. And you know, 138 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,559 she'd say, you know, sometimes you see your neighbors and 139 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,399 sometimes you don't, and sometimes times you'd talk to your 140 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:08,639 neighbors and sometimes you don't. So she taught me respect. 141 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,960 But she taught me respect of everything. Everything in the woods. 142 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:21,960 I was never taught to fear anything, regardless of what 143 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,159 it was. You know, from the time I was little, 144 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,799 I saw things and did things, and I was never 145 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,320 told I couldn't do those things or I couldn't say 146 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,360 those things. I could say anything to her, and if 147 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,320 I needed to talk about it, I get to ask 148 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:51,080 her about it. So you know, that basis there was 149 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:56,000 important because she always also said, they're like us in 150 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:02,240 ways and they're not like us in ways, and so 151 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:09,879 you know, that foundation of respect of them was laid 152 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,919 very early in my life. So that was just that 153 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,679 was how it was. 154 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:27,639 Speaker 1: After the interaction at age six, did you regularly have 155 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:32,120 interactions after that or was there a period of time 156 00:12:32,159 --> 00:12:35,120 where maybe a few years and then you had something 157 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:35,759 happen again. 158 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: Well, they were always around, whether or not there was 159 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,919 any kind of interaction. It just happened when it happened, 160 00:12:51,879 --> 00:12:57,559 and I didn't go out to find them. In other words, 161 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,720 I didn't set out and say I'm going to go 162 00:13:00,799 --> 00:13:04,039 out and find them, because I was taught that was 163 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,960 disrespectful as well. But I was in the woods all 164 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,240 the time, so if they were around, I may know 165 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:17,639 that they were around, and I may not. It just 166 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:23,279 it goes back to that there are neighbors, you know, 167 00:13:23,919 --> 00:13:27,840 and your neighbors. If you have neighbors and they're busy 168 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,600 doing something, you're not going to go bother your neighbors. 169 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:36,720 It's just, you know how I was taught. Now, through 170 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:40,879 the years, I did see them from time to time. 171 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,799 There was a period of time when I was raising 172 00:13:45,879 --> 00:13:52,919 my children and going through that part of my life, 173 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,639 I would see them from time to time. We hiked 174 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,519 a lot with the kids, and camped a lot and 175 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,120 did those kinds of things. Now, I never taught my 176 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:10,679 children when they were young about them because there was 177 00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:17,399 no reason for me to do that, and so it 178 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:23,480 just didn't happened. If one of them would have had 179 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:32,480 an experience, then I would have taught them about them, 180 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:38,960 but it was it wasn't necessary at that time for 181 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:41,200 me to do that at all. 182 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: A question I usually ask people that I talked to, 183 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,919 what do you feel that the Bigfoot actually is? 184 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: Well, they were here before we were, and they came 185 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:05,840 here from someplace else, and so they are flesh and 186 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:10,639 blood as sure as we are flesh and blood. But 187 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:16,240 they also can do things. You know, people talk all 188 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:20,120 the time about now you see them and now you don't. 189 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:26,399 How did that happen? You know? So they have those abilities. 190 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,879 I believe we have those abilities, but we walked away 191 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:38,480 from those at some point. Many people still hold those abilities. 192 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:46,000 I've seen elders do things that a lot of people 193 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,159 say can't be done. One of the stories I tell 194 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:55,679 is when I was a teenager, there was an in 195 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:58,720 demand that lived in the town that I grew up in. 196 00:15:59,399 --> 00:16:02,039 He never had had a car and he lived way 197 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,480 out in the country, so he always walked. He'd seem 198 00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:10,399 walking downtown and if he was going home, he would 199 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:15,000 be walking down towards the end of town and go 200 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,440 out in the country. Well, one day after school, some 201 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:24,279 kids and I were dragged Maine, and he was down 202 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,600 at the end and was turning to go towards his home. 203 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,120 And I said to the kids, I said, I'm going 204 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,440 to stop and pick him up. And they started, no, no, 205 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:40,480 he's got medicine. You can't do that. No, no. And 206 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,360 what that meant was that there were things he did 207 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,879 that they didn't consider something that they wanted to be 208 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:56,120 a part of. And actually they were definitely afraid. But 209 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,840 I said, okay. But I drove past him and went 210 00:17:02,039 --> 00:17:05,240 on the road out to his house. And that old 211 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,559 road you had to drive in the middle of it. 212 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:13,319 I mean, this was a long time ago, and it 213 00:17:13,559 --> 00:17:17,039 was several miles out to where he lived. I drove 214 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:20,000 in the middle of the road all the way out there. 215 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:25,799 No car passed me from behind, no car met me, 216 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:31,359 and we drove all the way out. When we got 217 00:17:31,519 --> 00:17:38,000 to his house, he was walking up on the porch. Now, 218 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:44,279 how did he do that? He remembered how to do 219 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:51,440 those things. One of our grandmothers of the International Council 220 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:55,839 of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers, who are grandmothers from around the 221 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,480 world who had made a difference, we were at a 222 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:05,720 gather and there was a very very bad storm coming 223 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:13,799 and it was headed right towards us. And she walked 224 00:18:13,839 --> 00:18:20,160 out and she put her hands up and she said 225 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,039 some things. We weren't close enough to hear her. But 226 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:30,119 when she put her hands up, that cloud moved, and 227 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,799 there were several of us saw that cloud move and 228 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:42,519 change its direction. Now, how did she do that? She 229 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:50,160 remembered the connection. So you know, people nowadays you hear 230 00:18:50,319 --> 00:18:54,559 of all kinds of things that people are doing that. 231 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,279 So many have said, you know, you can't do those things, 232 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,960 but you can do them if you remember the connection. 233 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: So you actually you saw that individual have that connection 234 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:13,960 with the cloud in person. 235 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:18,799 Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I wasn't the only one there either. 236 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: Do you have Native American heritage? 237 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,799 Speaker 2: I have Cherokee blood? My grandmother told me from the 238 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,839 time I was little enough to understand that I carried 239 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,799 Cherokee blood, but I carry a lot of other blood 240 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:46,519 as well. And what she told me was, if I 241 00:19:46,839 --> 00:19:52,759 dishonor any blood, then I've dishonored all the blood that 242 00:19:52,839 --> 00:19:57,359 I carried. I don't have a CDIB, so I'm not 243 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:03,279 a registered tribal member and I wasn't taught by her 244 00:20:03,799 --> 00:20:08,519 in the Cherokee way. I was taught by her own 245 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:14,559 experiences of a photo. Several people have seen it. It's 246 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:21,680 my grandmother. She couldn't remember exactly what year it was. 247 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:26,640 She was giving me some photos, probably a couple of 248 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:31,000 years before she died, and we were looking through them, 249 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,799 and there was this one photo that she was all 250 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:45,440 stretched out walking and it's the Bigfoot walk and I 251 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,519 think we figured it's somewhere early fifties. I don't know 252 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,759 for sure, but I said, Gran, what were you doing? 253 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,480 And she said, I was doing the walk. And that's 254 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:03,640 what that picture is is of her demonstrating how the 255 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,920 big Foot walk and she has this grin on her face. 256 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,000 So and my grandfather, I think she said, took that photo. 257 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:19,319 So it wasn't a photo I ever saw in my 258 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:24,920 whole life. And I was always going through her photos 259 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,640 and when some of us kids would get together, we'd 260 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,160 get the picture box out and go through all the 261 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:38,160 old photos. But I never saw it until that couple 262 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,079 of years before she passed when she was giving me 263 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:45,599 some photos. So I don't know where she had it. 264 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:48,400 I didn't ask her. I didn't think to ask her, 265 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:51,119 you know, where she had had that. 266 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: But so when you say that she's doing the bigfoot 267 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,920 walk in the photo. Can you kind of describe what 268 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,440 she was doing? 269 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,039 Speaker 2: Well, she's got that one arm stretch to the front. 270 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,240 The others gone back in her faith and were a 271 00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:13,640 long way apart. You could definitely tell what it is 272 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,160 when you look at it. So if that was in 273 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:23,839 the early fifties, the Patterson Gimlin hadn't even been filmed yet, 274 00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:30,559 Jerry Cruz, that whole thing right, which was fifteen Yeah, 275 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,880 hadn't happened yet, and yet she knew. 276 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. You mentioned something where it's almost like people 277 00:22:43,599 --> 00:22:48,640 forget their connections to things, and some people have still 278 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,200 have those connections. And I've talked to a lot of 279 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,599 people over the last five years, and I had some 280 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,960 really interesting things happen in Oregon. But do you think 281 00:22:58,079 --> 00:23:02,039 there's there's kind of a theory that I have where 282 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,200 I don't know if it's it's crazy or not, but 283 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:09,200 being in close proximity or being around the same area 284 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,960 that these big foot are could help people remember or 285 00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:18,599 unlock certain things I do. Do you know what I mean? 286 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,640 Does it sound kind of weird or no? 287 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:29,039 Speaker 2: Not my life it's weird. It's interesting with them and 288 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,519 you know, through the years, I've talked to a lot 289 00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:36,039 of indigenous people from around the world, not just Native 290 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:42,359 Americans here, but other elders as well, and a lot 291 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:48,160 of them have talked about, you know, about this are 292 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:53,200 walking away from it. In the case of the thirteen 293 00:23:53,599 --> 00:24:00,039 Indigenous grandmothers, they did many things that you know, I 294 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,400 is able to witness hundreds of people witness not just 295 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:11,200 me that you know, you go, wow, that happened. That 296 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:21,160 happen and it's just amazing that connecting back into those things. 297 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:27,680 And it's as simple as shifting your paradigm, opening your 298 00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:32,240 mind and shift that paradigm, that belief system that you have, 299 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:39,400 and then open your heart, and it's amazing what all 300 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,799 comes to you. It's one of the easiest things in 301 00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:51,960 the world to have an encounter. And you know, people 302 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,039 tell me all the time, I've been trying for years, 303 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,960 you know, and it's like, what are you doing, you know, 304 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,079 what are you doing to try to have this encounter? 305 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,920 And you know, they are, well, I'm going out in 306 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,480 the woods and I'm looking, and I'm knocking on trees, 307 00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:17,319 and I'm doing food and I'm doing all this stuff. 308 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,960 And if that's what you want and if that's the 309 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,240 interaction that you want, that's fine. But if you want 310 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:32,960 to know more, you know, And I don't know how 311 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,160 many people through the years that I've talked with who 312 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,039 then shifted their paradigm went at this a totally different 313 00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:50,880 way and had an encounter. I was been working with 314 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,839 a couple of people, just helping them. I don't tell 315 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,279 people what they have to do. We just talk and 316 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,440 I listen to you know, what they're saying and how 317 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:09,440 they're seeing it, and so they'll begin to grasp that. 318 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:18,440 You know, this is as simple as going in anywhere, 319 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:23,880 whether you're going into the woods or whatever, and you're 320 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:30,680 being very respectful, you've opened that heart, you've shifted your paradigm, 321 00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:38,799 and you just beat go have fun. Don't go thinking 322 00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,160 I'm going to go out there and I'm going to 323 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:46,839 see something. Go be in the woods and enjoy yourself 324 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,599 and love it and become a part of that. And 325 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:59,200 people all the time have those encounters. It's you know, 326 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,440 I talked to people all the time who've had an encounter. 327 00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:07,960 They had been trying for years to have an encounter 328 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:14,000 or to have anything, and it just wasn't happening for them. 329 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,079 And when they changed their approach, things began to happen. 330 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:26,720 Maybe in the beginning, all they heard were whoops, or 331 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:33,519 maybe they heard what sounds like knocking on trees. Maybe 332 00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:38,720 they saw a structure that looked strange to them, like 333 00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:44,519 it couldn't have been naturally formed, or they saw footprints. 334 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,519 All of these things are part of that beginning understanding 335 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:55,680 for a lot of people. But you take it one 336 00:27:55,799 --> 00:28:02,400 step more. You're there, and I always tell people if 337 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,119 you feel uncomfortable, if you feel like you're being watched, 338 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,039 or you just have that feeling like maybe I shouldn't 339 00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:19,480 be here, that you start talking. Tell them who you are, 340 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:24,519 and I do it out loud. You know, whether you 341 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,480 see them or not, just start talking. Tell them who 342 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:36,440 you are, tell them why you're there. And talking to 343 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,079 them like that, whether you see them or not, puts 344 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,440 in your mind that this is a being that understands you, 345 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:55,480 and they do understand you. And so now you're trying 346 00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:59,440 to get to know someone that you'd like to know, 347 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:05,440 and it's respectful to introduce yourself and why are you there? 348 00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:10,279 And I also tell them if you can't get past 349 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,880 your fear or your uneasiness at that point, it's very simple. 350 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,400 Turn around and just leave. Don't push well, because that 351 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:27,279 fear is going to block everything, or you're going to 352 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,599 have an encounter that you feel is a fearful encounter. 353 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:41,119 So it is that simple. And I've seen it happen 354 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,480 so many times in my life in this bigfoot world 355 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,319 of people, that those things do happen. 356 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: That's very, very good advice. I've actually talked to more 357 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,599 than a few people lately where they have done that verbally, 358 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,559 out loud communication. And then an interesting thing that's common 359 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,079 between all of them is that usually right after they'll 360 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:14,160 say something, there'll be something that will happen in the 361 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,640 physical world as a response. Yeah, is that something you've 362 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,400 experienced as well? 363 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know I tell people too, don't negate 364 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:30,160 something that happens that you're not sure about. Don't just 365 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:34,799 negate it and talk it away, because that's a very 366 00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:39,400 easy thing to talk it away. No I didn't hear that, 367 00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:44,319 or no I didn't see that, and just let it 368 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:50,319 be what it was and just continue, you know, doing 369 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,240 what you're doing. I know I've spoke at conferences over 370 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,400 the last several years across the United States and into 371 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,920 British Colt, Columbia. And one of the things that I 372 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,039 always tell people when I'm speaking, the first thing is 373 00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:12,920 you don't have to believe the thing I'm going to say. 374 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,359 I'm not trying to prove anything to you. I'm going 375 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,759 to share my experiences. The one thing that I do 376 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,000 ask of you is don't just throw it out. If 377 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:29,240 I say things that you think that there's no way 378 00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:32,519 it can be that way, don't throw it out. Just 379 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,599 file it away somewhere and then if you have something happened, 380 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:41,200 or maybe you have a friend that you trust has 381 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,720 something happen, then you've got something to go back and 382 00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:52,680 look at. So it you know, we tend to want 383 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,960 to well, I don't believe that, so you know, I'm 384 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,160 not going to think about it anymore. 385 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Do you feel that you're actively communicating 386 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,920 with any bigfoot in recent years? 387 00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah. In my one book, My Life with the 388 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:21,400 Harry People, it chronicles several years of my being a 389 00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:28,519 part of their lives. And it's interesting because I've always 390 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:34,000 known of what people call the paranormal aspect of them. 391 00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,880 I've always known that about them. That was just part 392 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,440 of it, part of my teaching, part of my understandings 393 00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:46,400 and part of my experiences. So I don't have a 394 00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:55,000 problem with that part that a lot of my experience 395 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,759 has been in the flesh and blood communication and interaction. 396 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:05,200 I don't know. I'm sure you probably do know Rick Taylor. 397 00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:08,759 Do you know that name? The man that had the 398 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,480 experience with seeing the family. 399 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,279 Speaker 1: I have never talked to him, but I have heard 400 00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:19,799 of his story, which is really incredible. I'm the arla 401 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,599 he was with exactly. 402 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, and I've had a lot of other people 403 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:35,960 who have seen them and very well seeing them. That 404 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,640 doesn't mean that I had anything to do with that, 405 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,559 because I'm not in charge of who they show themselves 406 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:47,279 to or not. They choose to do that, and I 407 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:56,279 would never ask them to show themselves to anybody. I 408 00:33:56,359 --> 00:34:00,680 just would not do it. That would be disrespect for me, 409 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,519 and it was, you know, part of my teachings as well. 410 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:09,800 They do as they choose. And I know I have 411 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,800 people ask me all the time, well will you show 412 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:20,239 me the Bigfoot? I'm sorry, I can't. I'm not going 413 00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:25,320 to ask them to do anything. You know. I hear 414 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,800 people say, well I'll go out and call them up 415 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,519 or whatever. Oh no, that's I'm not going to do that. 416 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,079 They're going to choose what it is they want to do. 417 00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:44,840 Al Caller is what I call him, is the bigfoot 418 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:50,000 in the Rick Taylor story that did the al call. 419 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,639 He's interacted with a couple of other people through the years. 420 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:02,400 It wasn't anything I expected at all, but that was 421 00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:08,519 his choice to do. Blue is one of the family. 422 00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:13,880 He's a young or an older juvenile male. Now, I 423 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,079 had a friend here who was staying with me. My 424 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:23,199 dog was really sick, and we were sitting outside and 425 00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:27,079 I heard the hairy kids is what I call them. 426 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,239 They were moving around. I could you know, you could 427 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,280 hear them, and then all of a sudden, we got 428 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:42,480 this horrible older Oh my gosh, it was awful. And 429 00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:49,719 I looked off out towards where I heard the noise 430 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:57,119 and stuff going on, and there was Blue, and we said, 431 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,719 you know, oh, that's a awful stop it. Well, that 432 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,199 odor went immediately away, and we'd go back to talking, 433 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,920 and then he would do it again and we were like, 434 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,639 stop it, that's horrible, and then he'd stop, and then 435 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,360 later on he would do it again. There's other people 436 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:27,599 who have experienced Blue as well. I have a photo blue. 437 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,639 There were five of us who were just hiking and 438 00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:37,639 we all saw him and one of the girls said, 439 00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:43,000 I'm going to take a picture, and he knew exactly 440 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,639 what we were doing. He didn't get up and leave. 441 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,320 He just sat there and watched us. He was there's 442 00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:56,159 on the ridge in that area. There are these old 443 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,119 places where it's kind of a drop off, and and 444 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,519 get back on the down side of that and stick, 445 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,159 you know, a big part of your body over that 446 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:12,440 and still, you know, dug down in a hurry, you know, 447 00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:17,239 if you want to. So you know, I'm not the 448 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,360 only one that's seen down. Do I see them more 449 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:26,039 than other people will? Yes, But like I said, I 450 00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:31,960 don't go looking for them either. If they're there, they are, 451 00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,519 and if they're not, well, they aren't. 452 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,519 Speaker 1: When you are talking to them verbally, do they ever 453 00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:42,239 talk back to you in a way that you can hear? 454 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,519 Speaker 2: I actually have audio. I have one audio that was 455 00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:54,400 taken a long time. There was a male, young male 456 00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:02,280 that was around and he was like a bulldozer when 457 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,559 he would come through the woods. He didn't try to 458 00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:09,760 be quiet at all. And so once July it was hot, 459 00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:14,119 I went off hiking and got back in the woods 460 00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:21,960 and setting there and I harding coming and I thought, 461 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:25,360 I'm just going to ask him who he is, so 462 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:28,840 out loud, I said, who are you? What's your name? 463 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:36,559 And he said through telepathy through Jestna, and I said 464 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:42,280 it again and he said it again through Justna. Well, 465 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,119 I didn't want to forget that, so I put it 466 00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:50,920 on my phone. And in October of the same year, 467 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,280 I had been recording and I kicked back in my 468 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,639 recliner and got my coffee and I'm listening to my 469 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:09,000 recorder and I hear this boy say Rugsna. And I 470 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,119 was like, oh, I know that tame, I know that name. 471 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:18,760 And I listened to the video. I mean, it's on 472 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:24,360 Facebook that a girlfriend of mine did a video or 473 00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:29,079 put it all together for me with that audio and 474 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:36,360 marked where they're talking. And he says Rugusina, and then 475 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:42,119 after a biddy says, approach slowly and if you're thinking 476 00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:48,679 about Regusina, he never went anywhere quietly or slowly, And 477 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,320 then there are other things on it, and then at 478 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,360 the end of it he says, we're going and that's 479 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:03,719 the end of it now too, through Jesna telling me 480 00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:08,519 his name. I was in the Woods, spending the night 481 00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:14,559 my tent, and I am laying there and I here 482 00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:20,599 walking up and I just greet them. If I'm out 483 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,360 wherever I'm at, in any part of the United States 484 00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:29,239 or Canada, wherever I always you say hi guys. And 485 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,760 so I heard him and I just said hi, guys, 486 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:41,000 and he did the funniest hell that sounded like he 487 00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:48,800 was saying hello. And I laughed at him. And there 488 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,559 was someone who heard that, and they asked me, could 489 00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:59,000 they do that spectral analysis of it? And I said, 490 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,199 I don't care if you want to, And so it 491 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,280 came back within that range that people have assigned to 492 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:16,280 Bigfoot on the analysis. You know, at the spectral analysis 493 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,480 really didn't matter to me. I knew who did it, so, 494 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,840 but it was just interesting to see that and where 495 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,480 that was. You know, I've got other videos to and 496 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,239 audios of them playing with the kyotes and you can 497 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,559 hear them in the mix, and one of them, Indigo, 498 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,360 who is a young male now who I've interacted with 499 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,719 the most. The coyotes are going crazy and then you 500 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,360 can hear them mixed in a little bit, and then 501 00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:02,239 you hear this in silence. So you know, through the 502 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,760 years I audioed a lot. I rarely do that anymore. 503 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:18,079 I just don't. But it's a physical part of my life. 504 00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:23,159 But more than that, because that paranormal for me is normal. 505 00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:28,719 It's not, you know, just something that people say that 506 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,559 this is outside the normal. For me, it's normal. 507 00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: That's absolutely fascinating. I would say for most people that 508 00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:45,800 are going out into the field and trying to have 509 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:51,239 some sort of interaction, their goal is probably to be 510 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,239 able to prove that Bigfoot is a real creature. It 511 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,360 sounds like this is not your probably goal with this 512 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,480 at all. What did you say your goal is through 513 00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:05,800 all this interaction that you have with bigfoot? 514 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:13,119 Speaker 2: Why I came into this in twenty ten. I was 515 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:19,440 introduced to the world of bigfoot research through some people 516 00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:24,559 that I had met. I thought they were teasing me 517 00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:28,199 when they said, oh, yeah, there are people out there 518 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,320 research and trying to prove them and I'm like, why 519 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,800 are they doing that? And you know, it was still like, yeah, 520 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,960 you guys are you guys are teasing me? There's no 521 00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:43,960 bigfoot research world. Well I found out very quickly that 522 00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:50,800 there was, and I had met someone they had a podcast. 523 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,400 They asked me, would you come on the podcast and talk. Well, 524 00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:59,880 all I knew to do was to share my experiences, 525 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,840 to tell the truth, and for the most part at 526 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,000 that time, that didn't go over very well, but that 527 00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:13,000 was okay, you know. So I came into this to 528 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:20,599 help people, to help those who had an encounter that 529 00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:27,920 they didn't understand, that they thought was something evil or whatever. 530 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,920 I also gave a lot of people a safe space 531 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,360 to talk and to share. It became known that, you know, 532 00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,039 I could be trusted, you could come and talk to 533 00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:45,639 me about anything, and I wouldn't, you know, tell anybody. 534 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,440 And I'd never made fun of anybody, no matter what 535 00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:56,800 their experiences were. And so I just I wanted to 536 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:04,480 help people understand that these are not the evil beings 537 00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:10,360 that so many people paint them as. And so all 538 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,119 I knew to do was to share my experiences, and 539 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,320 I shared the paranormal right along with their anything else. 540 00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:28,320 And I actually attained the title of the Immaculate Mother 541 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:37,920 of who very early on me was funny. I mean, 542 00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:43,280 it didn't bother me. And I'm not disrespectful to anyone, 543 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,480 no matter what they say to me or about me, 544 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,440 or you know, anything else. It's purely their perception of 545 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:56,079 who they think I am. So through the years, you know, 546 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:01,360 I dealt with a lot of that stop me from talking. 547 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,920 It didn't stop me from Sharon, and you know, I 548 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,239 still haven't stopped I guess so. But I wanted, I 549 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,440 really wanted to help people to get past their fear 550 00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:22,559 and to understand this on a totally different level. 551 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,599 Speaker 1: What was it that people were experiencing that they thought 552 00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,239 that these that these bigfoot were something evil. 553 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 2: Well, okay, I'll I have another looking story that I 554 00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:42,559 use as illustration. I was at a camp out down 555 00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:47,719 into commishy mountains and there were people there from a 556 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,119 lot of different places. There was a young man who 557 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:55,320 had just gotten out of the military actually, and he 558 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,679 grew up in Washington State, but hadn't you know, been 559 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,000 there in quite a while. And we were talking during 560 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:08,199 the day and he told me he didn't know what 561 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,559 they were, and he was a little afraid, you know, 562 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,000 of them, because he didn't know, you know, what they were. 563 00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,679 And I talked to him, and you know, but he 564 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,480 still had that huge fear. Yet he wanted to know too, 565 00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:33,440 you know, he wanted to have an encounter. Well, that 566 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,320 night we were sitting around the fire, is about midnight, 567 00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:40,920 and as I often do, I got up from the 568 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,800 fire and went to go walking. And when I got 569 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,800 up and walked over to the little about a one 570 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,880 lane road back into the mountains, he said, Miss Harlae, 571 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,719 can I go with you? And I said, sure, come on. Well, 572 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,519 we're walking down the road, you know, and we're talking 573 00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:08,000 and then we hear heavy bipedal footsteps and they're coming 574 00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:12,599 towards us. Now, you know, the sides of the road 575 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,360 are cedars and pines, and so it's really thick to 576 00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:22,159 try to see in anywhere. And we're walking in the 577 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,960 dark too, because I don't normally carry a flashlight. If 578 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,280 I'm especially if I'm on a road that I'm not 579 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,320 familiar with, I usually stay on the road and don't 580 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:39,000 vnch your off. But we heard the heavy bipedal footsteps 581 00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:43,280 coming towards us, and they were getting closer and closer, 582 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,519 and they got up parallel to us inside the brush 583 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:56,599 and stopped, and he grabbed my arm and he said 584 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,840 are you afraid? And I said no, I'm not afraid. 585 00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:05,559 I said are you afraid? And he grabbed me with 586 00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:11,400 his other arm and literally pulled me to him and said, yes, 587 00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:13,559 I don't know what he's going to do to me, 588 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,280 And so I tried to talk to him and getting 589 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,440 calmed down, but I couldn't, so I said, let's just 590 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,199 go back to the fire. So we walked back to 591 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,960 the fire. Now, if you took a report on that, 592 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,519 my report would have been got up from the fire, 593 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:40,159 walked down the road, heard heavy bipedal footsteps coming towards 594 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:45,039 us as they stopped right inside the tree line and brushed. 595 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,719 His would have been he got up from the fire, 596 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,599 went walking down the road, and then you know, he 597 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,360 was afraid. He was afraid it was going to hurt him. 598 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,239 He didn't know what it was going to do to 599 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:06,599 him too. Totally different reports on this the very same encounter. 600 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,159 But he had already said during the day he was 601 00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:17,800 afraid of them because he didn't know what they were 602 00:50:18,159 --> 00:50:23,360 or what they would do. So that was the encounter 603 00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:30,239 he had because he didn't know their nature and he 604 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:36,079 carried that fear. And that's what happens when people have 605 00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:41,559 a lot of these encounters that they think are bad. 606 00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:47,280 It's because you misunderstand their nature. They are big, they 607 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,079 are hairy, and they are loud, and you can literally 608 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:58,199 feel their energy from them. If they're very close to you. 609 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,639 Speaker 1: What does that mean when you say you can literally 610 00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:06,920 feel their energy from them? 611 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 2: You can feel it. It's sometimes it's just a tangle. 612 00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:21,119 Sometimes it's like shields, you know, or goose bumps or whatever. 613 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,360 You know. People call it. That's not a bad thing, 614 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:30,719 that's just energy. But people don't understand it, and so 615 00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:34,960 they automatically think, well, that's a bad thing. I shouldn't 616 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,440 be feeling like this, I shouldn't be here, And that's 617 00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:42,320 not usually the case. 618 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,800 Speaker 1: Have you ever experienced along in that same category where 619 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,840 a person was unable to move for a certain period 620 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:51,320 of time. 621 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,599 Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen 622 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,840 people who they call it zapping or sizzling, you know, 623 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,559 different terms, but they feel that that's that's an energy 624 00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:13,119 thing too as well. And if you don't understand it, 625 00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:16,920 you will freeze yourself. Now, I'm not going to tell 626 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,000 you they can't do that too, because I know they can. 627 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,280 But you can scare yourself enough to where you can't move. 628 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:32,760 We were at a camp out in the Willow Creek 629 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,800 area where the Patterson Gimlin was filmed. We were thirty 630 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,280 miles from the nearest town that was just a little 631 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,519 town with a ranger station and I think one little 632 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,320 station that had some things foods and stuff in it. 633 00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:57,280 And one of the girls had jelways put her tent 634 00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:00,519 out of way, which is what I usually to wait 635 00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,840 for everybody else, and she they had been around her 636 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:13,239 tent a lot, and she had start got out and 637 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:22,360 she was just literally frozen, and she started calling Tom 638 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,000 for help, and of course he got up and went 639 00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:34,079 out there, and there was a bear, I believe it 640 00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:39,960 was a bear very close. And so I have seen 641 00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:47,280 them literally freeze people like that for protection, and that's 642 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,519 really hard for a lot of people, you know, to grasp. 643 00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:57,679 I've had that. They've never frozen me like that, but 644 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:04,360 they have let me know that there was something in 645 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:10,400 the area. Now, I'm not quiet in the woods. I'm 646 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,199 not going to scare any of the big foot people 647 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:19,599 off by me talking or singing or whatever. But if 648 00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:22,719 there's a bear around or anything else, they're going to 649 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:28,159 hear me long before I ever get very close to them. 650 00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:34,800 So I don't really fear anything like that. You know, 651 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:40,639 I'm careful and I'm aware of what's going on around me. 652 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:46,719 I'm responsible for myself, but I know that they do 653 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,480 watch out after me. And I've talked to hundreds of 654 00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,639 people that'll tell you the same thing. 655 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,639 Speaker 1: That's very interesting to know that that background for sure. 656 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,960 Have they ever communicated to you to ask you to 657 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,679 come to a certain area or location or to do 658 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:07,360 a certain thing. 659 00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:14,519 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. Now they will let me know that 660 00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:20,119 they're going to be around. And it's funny because years ago, 661 00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:24,239 years ago, I was sleeping in my tent and they 662 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:27,280 like for me to sleep in my tent. I mean 663 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,719 a lot of stuff happens when I'm in my tent 664 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,719 and has over the years. And one night I'd been 665 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,679 told that, you know, we want you to come out 666 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,800 to the tent. And it doesn't mean I'm going to 667 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,639 walk out there and I'm gonna shake their hand and 668 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,880 sit down and talk with them. It's not like that 669 00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:54,000 at all. It's just that I know they're there and 670 00:55:54,079 --> 00:56:00,000 they know I'm there. Well, something happened and I didn't 671 00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:02,639 get to go sleep in my tent because I had 672 00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:05,119 to walk quite a ways to get to my tent. 673 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:14,480 And the next morning on my porch was this asterisk symbol. 674 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,960 I had one cedar pole and then I had another 675 00:56:20,199 --> 00:56:24,199 that was a tree that I had cut the branches off, 676 00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:27,400 leaving enough out where I could prop it up and 677 00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:31,159 hang things on it. And then there was I think 678 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:37,239 a walking staff that I had that were not together 679 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,960 at all and certainly weren't on my porch, but they 680 00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:48,559 put that into an asterisk, which is it's a connection symbol. 681 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,559 And they were telling me, basically, you were out there 682 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,320 last night. And so when I finally did go, I 683 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:04,760 walked back to the tent that day and they had 684 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,559 there was an old blue tarp under my tent. They 685 00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:15,280 had pulled a strand of that tarp out, a long strand, 686 00:57:16,159 --> 00:57:20,599 and they had put an X, which they have used 687 00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:26,000 that with me for friendship, thank you family. That type 688 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,920 of thing and how they use it depends on the 689 00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:35,239 context of the situation. But they had decorated that X 690 00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:42,159 with that long piece of tarp and they had wove 691 00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:46,079 it all around that AX, and it was so pretty. 692 00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:50,239 I just started laughing when I saw it. And so 693 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,760 that night I did go out and spend the night 694 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,880 in the tent. And a lot of times it's no 695 00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:02,960 more than just hearing them out there running around or 696 00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:06,960 doing things. I have had them come up to the 697 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,519 tent and touch me. I had a young one not 698 00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:15,639 long ago come up. I sleep on a cot in 699 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:21,280 my tent and I sleep with it open. It opens 700 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,000 on four sides and that's how asleep. And my feet 701 00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:31,079 were by the door, and I felt this finger push 702 00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:35,039 or touch the tip of my big toe and then 703 00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:40,639 put pressure on it. And I was just laying there 704 00:58:40,719 --> 00:58:47,480 with my eyes closed, just being quiet. And when I 705 00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:50,960 felt it, I opened my eyes and I looked up 706 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,760 and all I could see was two shadowy figures that 707 00:58:56,079 --> 00:58:59,280 had figured out that I was awake, and they turned 708 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,679 around and food at all. So you know, it's not 709 00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:11,480 like I'm going down there and we're all setting in 710 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:16,480 a circle or whatever. They're doing whatever it is they do, 711 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,599 and I'm staying in my tent in the woods, which 712 00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:25,280 I absolutely love and do a big part of the year. 713 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: Wow, And no fear at all during that time. 714 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:34,119 Speaker 2: It sounds like, no, Well, I've never had a fear 715 00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:38,559 of them. I was never taught to be afraid of them. 716 00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:44,239 I ought to be respectful. I don't have fear of anything. 717 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:49,840 I've seen dog men before and I wasn't afraid. So 718 00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:55,800 I just don't have that fear. And you know, my 719 00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:01,800 grandmother I wasn't taught to fear anything. She always told me, 720 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,480 you know, talk to something that you don't know what 721 01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:09,119 it is, find out what it is, you know. But 722 01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:14,119 I was that little girl who was in her bed 723 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:19,239 at night and she heard something under her bed, or 724 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,159 she didn't cover her head up. She leaned over her 725 01:00:22,159 --> 01:00:24,760 bed and looked under her bed and see what was 726 01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:29,599 making the noise. So I just I didn't have fear, 727 01:00:30,159 --> 01:00:32,760 you know. And I've told people for years, if you 728 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:38,960 have a problem and you're afraid, you know, I don't 729 01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:44,400 have a problem with going and being there and seeing, 730 01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:48,480 you know, what's going on, because I just I don't 731 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:51,480 have a fear. I'd love to go to Skinwalk a ranch. 732 01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:56,480 That'd be really awesome. But I've seen a lot of 733 01:00:56,519 --> 01:01:01,199 things too, so you know, it's just one of those things. 734 01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:02,679 I'd like to go there. 735 01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: It's such a really cool way to look at things 736 01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:12,639 that I really appreciate how you're laying everything out. Let's 737 01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:17,440 say there's a listener and they're like, yeah, you know, 738 01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:21,360 I kind of want to just go to an area 739 01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:25,639 and kind of try this this out, maybe a little 740 01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:30,079 differently than I've done before, where I'm knocking on trees 741 01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:33,800 and making howls and stuff, And it sounds kind of 742 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,360 similar to how I've talked to Tom Cantrell about things 743 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,159 before too. If you were to break it down very 744 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,119 simply of what how what a person would do to 745 01:01:45,159 --> 01:01:50,920 try to to put themselves into a situation where they 746 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,719 can connect with them. Is that something that you've ever 747 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,480 tried to do, where you break it down very simply. 748 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I've worked with people for years helping them get 749 01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:10,280 past their fear, and I've been working with one particular 750 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:15,159 person now for about a month. They are past that 751 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:20,679 knocking and hooping and all of that. They want more. 752 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,719 They don't want to stop there. They want more, and 753 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:31,079 so you know, I would tell them go to an area. 754 01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:35,519 I mean, if you want to look up on the 755 01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:39,480 web and find out where all of the sightings are 756 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:44,440 or whatever, do that. But the first thing you need 757 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,199 to do is go to these woods. Pick your woods 758 01:02:48,199 --> 01:02:52,639 you're going to go to, Go and just walk through 759 01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:57,199 the woods. Get familiar with where you're at. Note things. 760 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,599 I mean, if you want to take pictures of interesting 761 01:03:00,719 --> 01:03:05,119 things in the wood, as far as something that might 762 01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:09,559 look like a structure or something like that, do it. 763 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,519 You know, document that and then just be open to 764 01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:21,599 whatever be in a respectful way and just go with 765 01:03:21,639 --> 01:03:27,440 your heart open and let happen what happened. But the 766 01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:33,280 number one thing is just go and enjoy being there 767 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:38,559 and then go back again. Know your woods that way. 768 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,760 You know when things are different, maybe you just have 769 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,280 a feeling, well this doesn't feel like it did the 770 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,719 other day, or you see something you took a picture 771 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,719 of and you go, whoa, wait a minute, that's changed 772 01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:03,280 and you look at it. But always when you're out, 773 01:04:05,079 --> 01:04:08,800 just tell them, you know, hello, I say hi guys, 774 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:14,800 you know, have a conversation with them. People ask me 775 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,800 do I have to do it through mind speak or 776 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,400 to let thee Now usually when I'm talking to them, 777 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,000 I talk out loud, and but you do what makes 778 01:04:26,119 --> 01:04:31,840 you comfortable. But just talk to them, tell them who 779 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:37,440 you are, why you're there, and just like you would 780 01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:41,760 anybody that you wanted, that you wanted to meet or 781 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:47,000 you wanted to get to know better, and just open 782 01:04:47,079 --> 01:04:53,599 up your heart and shift your paradigm. And this person 783 01:04:53,719 --> 01:04:57,880 that I've been working with over this last little bit, 784 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,360 they had go out like I don't know, three or 785 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:08,760 four times, but now they're already having things and have 786 01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:14,840 had a visual So them changing up what they were 787 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,519 doing gave them what they were asking for. They wanted 788 01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:22,840 to know more. They didn't just want to hear a 789 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,960 knock or see a footprint or a hoop or whatever. 790 01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:29,599 And I mean all those things are kind of fun 791 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,239 when you hear because I still like to hear them 792 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:40,320 whoop and whatever. But it depends on what you want, 793 01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:46,039 you know, and if you're willing to just go and let. 794 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:51,199 Speaker 1: It happen, I'd say that is great advice. And Arla, 795 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,840 thank you for coming on the show tonight and for 796 01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:59,840 sharing some things from your heart about what you've experienced 797 01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:04,000 through your life so far. Do you have any final 798 01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:09,199 closing thoughts? Slash? How are ways that people can keep 799 01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,719 up to date with what you're doing currently when it 800 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:13,800 comes to Bigfoot. 801 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,639 Speaker 2: I have a YouTube channel. Now you're going to see 802 01:06:18,679 --> 01:06:21,440 a little bit of everything on that YouTube channel. I 803 01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:25,840 started it in twenty fifteen and then I had a 804 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,440 big change in my life for several years, but I've 805 01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:32,559 gone back and I am posting things on it. It's 806 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:37,519 Arla Williams is what my YouTube channel is. I am 807 01:06:37,679 --> 01:06:42,320 on Facebook. If you're looking for me on Facebook, it'll 808 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:49,000 be Arla calliout Colette, so you'll see Arla Collette. And 809 01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:54,599 if you're going to send me a friend request, send 810 01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:59,119 me a message too, because I get all kinds of 811 01:06:59,239 --> 01:07:04,840 friend requesd west that I can't see their page, and 812 01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:10,039 unless I know somebody's going to friend me, or I 813 01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:14,559 have a friend that says yes, this person is you know, okay, 814 01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:19,880 then I'm probably not going to friend you. If I 815 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,239 can see your page and you know, see what you're about, 816 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,519 then then I don't have a problem with doing that. 817 01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:30,559 And it doesn't matter to me what you believe they are, 818 01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:36,880 or your political affiliation or anything else. That's not my 819 01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:44,239 criteria for letting people on my Facebook page. You can 820 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:50,079 search my name Arle Williams or Arliclette on YouTube. I've 821 01:07:50,159 --> 01:07:55,719 done tons of podcasts. I actually have a podcast I 822 01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,440 do now with Michael Harrell and it is on The 823 01:08:00,519 --> 01:08:05,519 Poor Convene Show, which is a group on Facebook. It's 824 01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:09,000 a public group, so anybody can come there. But then 825 01:08:09,559 --> 01:08:13,960 we do them live every other Thursday, and then they 826 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,600 go on Michael Harold's YouTube channel. So I'm out there 827 01:08:20,119 --> 01:08:24,359 if you want to listen, you know too more and 828 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,000 probably hear a whole lot more of the paranormal aspect 829 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,479 of you know what goes on in my life too 830 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,359 as well. 831 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 1: Fantastic. We will definitely make sure that all that is 832 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:43,520 linked in the show note description. And Haarley, just thank 833 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,680 you again for coming on the show. It has been 834 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,600 a real pleasure chatting with you tonight. 835 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for asking me. And I do have 836 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,800 two books. I have My Life with the Hairy Peeople 837 01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,439 and Respecting the Water. That's a children's book with a Bigfoot. 838 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,239 Of course, you can get them on Amazon or you 839 01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:08,319 can get them for me, And thank you so much 840 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,560 for asking me. I really appreciate that. 841 01:09:17,119 --> 01:09:19,399 Speaker 1: Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something 842 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,640 directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're 843 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,439 in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've 844 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,319 seen something that no one can explain, or if you're 845 01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:32,640 a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told 846 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,640 to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen 847 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,960 something strange down on the ground, or if you're with 848 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,600 the FBI a federal agency or working intelligence and you 849 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,800 stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And 850 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,199 if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder 851 01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:52,560 who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. 852 01:09:53,079 --> 01:09:56,479 If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil 853 01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,119 field or trucker with government contracts and you've had something 854 01:10:00,199 --> 01:10:03,560 happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're 855 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,479 a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under 856 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,880 contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report. 857 01:10:11,399 --> 01:10:13,880 If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a 858 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,399 spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith, 859 01:10:18,079 --> 01:10:21,199 or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or 860 01:10:21,239 --> 01:10:24,600 anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't, 861 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,439 then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous. 862 01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:34,720 You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. 863 01:10:35,159 --> 01:10:37,600 The world needs to hear what you've been forced to 864 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:43,439 carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story, 865 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,800 We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank 866 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,680 you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. 867 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,159 Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is 868 01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:56,319 bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth 869 01:10:56,399 --> 01:10:59,239 is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you 870 01:10:59,319 --> 01:11:01,960 enjoyed this episod, so please be sure to subscribe to 871 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,199 the channel on YouTube hit the bell so you don't 872 01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:06,600 miss the next episode, and share this with a friend 873 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,359 who's into mysteries, monsters or the unexplained. 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Also, it's a place to 885 01:11:46,119 --> 01:11:48,960 connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot subject 886 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,680 as much as you are. Thanks again for following along 887 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,680 with the Bigfoot Society until next time, keep your eyes open, 888 01:11:55,039 --> 01:11:57,479 trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might 889 01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,199 be out there and see you in the woods.