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Speaker 1: biggest one, huge, biggest one in four counties.
Speaker 2: The biggest.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get so tired of the twelve o'clock hour winning.
Speaker 3: The Dorothea Puente story is going to come up at
Speaker 3: the bottom of the AAR. We talked about that that's
Speaker 3: a Sacramento thing, but it was. It was such a
Speaker 3: weirdly California specific story that I remember covering it and
Speaker 3: just this, Wow.
Speaker 1: It's just very unsettling when a grandma like figure is
Speaker 1: a murderer, because grandma is not just for fresh tomales.
Speaker 1: In this case, she'll hand you a fresh tomale in
Speaker 1: one hand and.
Speaker 2: A butcher knife in the other.
Speaker 1: No, she'll hang on to the butcher knife, but she'll
Speaker 1: bury you with the other.
Speaker 2: I got dad. Else is going on? Time four? What's happening? Well,
Speaker 2: we are?
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Speaker 3: Will we are out of our particularly dangerous weather situation,
Speaker 3: but we are still underregg red flag warnings through most
Speaker 3: of southern California today. There were a couple of brushfires
Speaker 3: that did pop up. Thankfully Cruise were able to get
Speaker 3: on top of them. One down near the I fifteen
Speaker 3: the Pola fire about twelve thirty this morning. About thirty
Speaker 3: minutes later farther down south on I fifteen year old
Speaker 3: Highway three ninety five called the Lilac fire. Both of
Speaker 3: those all the forward progress has stopped. There was one
Speaker 3: near the four or five in Granada Hills yesterday and
Speaker 3: then one near Griffith Observatory, and again both of those
Speaker 3: put out very quickly, thankfully, because those things we had
Speaker 3: seen could get out of control.
Speaker 1: Big fire at a hotel at a Turkish ski resort
Speaker 1: happened just before dawn. It's killed sixty six people. They're
Speaker 1: fifty one injured, just wild. It was about three am
Speaker 1: at Grand Cartel, a hotel at this ski resort. It
Speaker 1: was in northwestern Turkey. Fire breaks out in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night. Most of the victims were children and
Speaker 1: they say suffocation was the cause of death.
Speaker 3: The hotel was basically full two hundred and thirty thirty
Speaker 3: eight registered guests because apparently it's a holiday there. They said,
Speaker 3: all necessary steps taken to shed light on all aspects
Speaker 3: of the incident hold those responsible. Some of the people
Speaker 3: were jumping out of their balconies to try to get
Speaker 3: away from the fire and ended up dying in the fall.
Speaker 1: Bizarre story out of rural Alabama where a guy they say,
Speaker 1: shot and killed a fire chief and Georgia who approached
Speaker 1: this guy's home Sunday night. The chief was trying to
Speaker 1: assist a driver stranded in the road. The driver had
Speaker 1: apparently hit a deer and couldn't call for help because
Speaker 1: I don't know rural Alabama poor cell phone service. So
Speaker 1: this fifty four year old fire chief, James Catherine, was
Speaker 1: working outside on a nearby property. He notices the stranded
Speaker 1: driver and his wife, So the chief and the driver
Speaker 1: decide to approach a.
Speaker 2: Home in the area.
Speaker 1: Apparently, this guy, William Franklin, stepped outside the home as
Speaker 1: these two guys were approaching and opened fire on both
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 3: All three of them suffered gunshot wounds in the shootout.
Speaker 3: The driver that had hit the deer and was had
Speaker 3: the car disabled, was apparently armed as well and returned fire.
Speaker 1: I had a calculus teacher in high school. Mister Shrick
Speaker 1: was his name, and he was a surly guy. And
Speaker 1: one Christmas, me and my girlfriends, who at a classes
Speaker 1: throughout the years, decided to go sing carols outside his home.
Speaker 1: We knew where it was. It was in right on
Speaker 1: Nevado Boulevards. It's turning into San Marein, like right before
Speaker 1: you get to sam Mareen and it's that wooded area
Speaker 1: to your left. If you're coming from Nevada.
Speaker 2: Where are you doing that?
Speaker 1: We thought it would be funny. It was like a
Speaker 1: funny thing. We were out stealing street signs. It's a
Speaker 1: Nevado thing board. You're driving around, you have your license,
Speaker 1: nothing to do. Steal in signs that say open trench
Speaker 1: to put on your friend's front porches, things like that.
Speaker 1: And we decided to sing Christmas carols outside mister Shrick's home,
Speaker 1: which was kind of like one of those really long driveways,
Speaker 1: a lot of trees on both sides, and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this will be so funny. We get there and mister
Speaker 1: Strick came out on the front porch with a shotgun
Speaker 1: and so get the hell out of here. So so
Speaker 1: that was the end of that. But this sounds kind
Speaker 1: of like what happened in Georgia.
Speaker 2: Shoot anybody.
Speaker 1: She did not, but he said, if you come back,
Speaker 1: I'll shoot you.
Speaker 3: All Yeah, good old fashioned teachers, That's that's what teachers.
Speaker 1: Everyone had a crush on, mister Shrek.
Speaker 2: No, they did not.
Speaker 1: They did even after that, huh, especially after that.
Speaker 3: All Right, historic snowfall bearing parts of the Gulf Coast
Speaker 3: because of a once in a generation winter storm that
Speaker 3: they say is wreaking havoc on travel. Airports in Houston
Speaker 3: had to be shut down earlier today, and they said
Speaker 3: that for the first time ever, parts of Louisiana are
Speaker 3: under a blizzard warning. Low temperatures, wind chills from the
Speaker 3: Canadian border all the way down to the Mexican border
Speaker 3: hitting dangerous levels for the second consecutive day. My daughter
Speaker 3: had snow in Waco, Texas yesterday.
Speaker 1: Did she make a snow angel.
Speaker 2: No, she did not. She stayed inside. Good told her,
Speaker 2: stay inside, stay in.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna tell her to stay inside the whole generation.
Speaker 2: She's in Texas. She was busy at the lab the
Speaker 2: whole time. Anyway, So yeah, I stay inside. The whole time,
Speaker 2: stay inside the whole time.
Speaker 3: Jet Blue is now going to take Venmo online for bookings,
Speaker 3: which is a first for airlines. That kind of surprised
Speaker 3: it hasn't happened to this point, but that's the deal.
Speaker 3: Venmo payment options now available on Jet Blue websites. They'll
Speaker 3: roll out on their mobile app in the coming months.
Speaker 3: And then, of course, the Ohio State outlasted Notre Dame
Speaker 3: to take home the national championship last night in college
Speaker 3: of football.
Speaker 1: I turned it off when I got to twenty eight
Speaker 1: to seven. I don't want to watch this.
Speaker 2: The fun it was a fun game.
Speaker 3: After that, Notre Dame put together a handful of plays
Speaker 3: that were.
Speaker 1: Like did they got within eight? And then that what
Speaker 1: fifty sixty yard bomb down the That must have just
Speaker 1: been a that's college that I know they talk about
Speaker 1: being the dagger play where you know you can't come
Speaker 1: back from.
Speaker 2: But that just and deflated.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, coming up next, we have your Jeopardy question.
Speaker 2: That's exciting, and what do you wear at the office.
Speaker 3: You and I don't have money recommend, We don't have
Speaker 3: any requirements.
Speaker 2: I think we like it.
Speaker 3: We wear hard pants. Hard Pants is one of them.
Speaker 3: But that even that was hard to come by. There
Speaker 3: were a few years in there where it was like, Okay.
Speaker 1: I've never come in here wearing leggings.
Speaker 2: Leggings.
Speaker 1: People were like leggings a lot. Yeah, yeah, here, don't
Speaker 1: I would not like it if you came in here
Speaker 1: wearing leggings.
Speaker 2: I would not imagine.
Speaker 3: I can almost guarantee that that will never happen. What
Speaker 3: do you mean almost No, I don't know. What do
Speaker 3: you mean, you don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You're not shutting the door on that kind of love.
Speaker 2: Maybe I have a head injury.
Speaker 4: Hey, Shannon just did a deep dive on Ray Strike.
Speaker 4: This is Zach Seney Valley out here working these fires
Speaker 4: on PCH for storing the power lines. Ray Shrike had
Speaker 4: the longest be sure I think I've ever read. Really
Speaker 4: looked like he was your teacher about all high school. Yeah,
Speaker 4: sounded like it was a great dude, embellished about how
Speaker 4: poor he was. That was his claim to fame. But
Speaker 4: Ray Shrike, Yeah, looks like I good looking dude.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: One of my girlfriends texted me, She's like, not everybody
Speaker 1: had a crush on him, that was just you.
Speaker 2: That's funny. Oh, that's funny. Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: I do believe that somebody sent me this bit when
Speaker 1: it happened. Yeah, good time.
Speaker 2: That is hilarious.
Speaker 3: We are expecting President Trump to speak from the White
Speaker 3: House today. The new Press Secretary for the White House,
Speaker 3: Caroline leave It, had said that she wasn't planning any
Speaker 3: official news conference today or press briefing from the White House,
Speaker 3: but that she did say President Trump was going to
Speaker 3: tease a big infrastructure announcement from today. One of the
Speaker 3: other things that's been going on in the background we
Speaker 3: talked about. Senator Marco Rubio has now been officially confirmed
Speaker 3: and sworn in as the new Secretary of State.
Speaker 2: He was actually.
Speaker 3: Unanimously approved by the Senate ninety nine to nothing. The
Speaker 3: Senate Finance Committee, it also advanced the nomination of Scott
Speaker 3: Bessant for Treasury Secretary. And then more of these potential
Speaker 3: cabinet members are continuing their interviews. Congresswoman at least Stefanic
Speaker 3: was before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee this morning. The
Speaker 3: Senate Veterans Affairs Committee interviewed Doug Collins to be the
Speaker 3: next Secretary of the VA.
Speaker 1: We've got your chance at one thousand dollars? Do we
Speaker 1: do that? How come I never remember? Like? It completely
Speaker 1: is a tune out for me because you were looking
Speaker 1: at your mister shrikesbit, mister Shribit also is it because
Speaker 1: I can't win the money?
Speaker 2: So I don't care? I don't don't care.
Speaker 3: You know when someone introduces themselves to you and you
Speaker 3: forget their name immediately?
Speaker 1: No, I actually try really hard not to be that person, Like,
Speaker 1: who's our new boss?
Speaker 2: What's his name? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Somebody came in here told us we have a new boss.
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 2: Well? I don't want to know. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's been public. Now, that's his first name? It starts
Speaker 2: with a B, does it? Yes? Wait, you forgot already?
Speaker 2: I did? No, you didn't?
Speaker 1: No, I really did? So you remember that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh it wasn't that bad? Oh yeah, yeah I remember?
Speaker 5: How about you Jeopardy question? Okay, how about that? If
Speaker 5: we didn't do that already?
Speaker 2: Did we have?
Speaker 1: This is when Jacob tells me I have cognitive decline.
Speaker 1: Shannon Shannon remember cash contest winners for six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, she won a Golden Globe for her
Speaker 1: role on the BBC America series Killing Eve.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yeah, I will. Who is Jody Comer?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Yes no rhymes with no.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: That's why I said you were going to get it?
Speaker 2: Uh okay, I thought that Jody Comber did a.
Speaker 1: Better jo What it is you have against Sandra Oh,
Speaker 1: but you're she's right up there with the Diane Keaton Sometimes.
Speaker 2: No, it's different. I know.
Speaker 3: Listen, I feel bad every time we talk about clothes
Speaker 3: and the clothes that people wear to work. We're not
Speaker 3: the greatest. We're not the greatest jury for that because
Speaker 3: we work in a radio station, which is one step
Speaker 3: above a farm when it comes to the clothing that
Speaker 3: is acceptable to work, and even that is not right
Speaker 3: because in a farm you usually have had the equipments.
Speaker 2: To be that way.
Speaker 1: I mean twenty years ago, when I went to like
Speaker 1: at KFBK, people dressed professionally. I had like seventeen blazers.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I did not drag when I was there
Speaker 2: at first, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I always said I dressed. I always dressed overdressed, I
Speaker 1: should say. In fact, I remember the boss saying, what
Speaker 1: are you going to do in your your skirt and
Speaker 1: your heels? When I send you out.
Speaker 2: To a fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you always had a change of clothes. There's
Speaker 1: car that's part of it. It's also a functional thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, right, I bet I covered the capitol though.
Speaker 3: That was the thing is you could go from a
Speaker 3: city council meeting to the double murder site.
Speaker 1: And back then you couldn't get into courthouses unless you
Speaker 1: had a jacket on.
Speaker 3: I remember in the state of Washington when I would
Speaker 3: cover the capitol, I just stuff. In Olympia, if I
Speaker 3: didn't have a jacket, I.
Speaker 1: Was I was not allowed to cover a trial once
Speaker 1: because I didn't have a jacket with you.
Speaker 3: So there are different workplaces where the attire is important.
Speaker 1: I think my point was things have changed in twenty
Speaker 1: years now a lot more is acceptable. I mean just
Speaker 1: look at the airports alone and people just wear their pajamas,
Speaker 1: and the number of blankets that appear in the workplace
Speaker 1: as well. I mean there's really been a sl lied
Speaker 1: when it comes to what's acceptable, and now the very
Speaker 1: bare minimum is acceptable.
Speaker 3: Well, there's an article Wall Street Journal was the new
Speaker 3: rules for appropriate office where we'll have to do it
Speaker 3: when we come back. But just in terms of what
Speaker 3: it is that you think is acceptable. I my wife
Speaker 3: was the one who told me. It's not her phrase,
Speaker 3: but she told me one time, newly married, and I
Speaker 3: was frustrated at work, and she's we're trying to brainstorm
Speaker 3: how I'm going to get out of this rut, and
Speaker 3: she said to me, dressed to the position to which
Speaker 3: she aspired, that's the rule.
Speaker 2: And again it's not wasn't her comment.
Speaker 3: She wasn't, But it changed the way I thought about
Speaker 3: what I was doing. Right, So I did start wearing
Speaker 3: a tie to work, and I got a new.
Speaker 2: Job quickly after that.
Speaker 3: See, it wasn't because they fired me because it was
Speaker 3: weren't a tie. It was because I had changed my
Speaker 3: attitude about where I worked and what I thought my value.
Speaker 1: You have to go no further than Dion Sanders. Look good,
Speaker 1: feel good, play good, Hey you good.
Speaker 3: Fashion houses have decided that the office needs to be
Speaker 3: perked up a little bit. Classics like suits and pencil
Speaker 3: skirts are getting a new rebrand. They're saying that it's
Speaker 3: sexier and more youthful. But crop tops, pajama pants and
Speaker 3: miniskirts are all fair game.
Speaker 2: They say.
Speaker 3: When it comes to officewear. Crop tops, pajama pants, and
Speaker 3: mini skirts.
Speaker 1: We've seen all of that for years.
Speaker 3: But but I like I say, this is not necessarily
Speaker 3: the greatest right measure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like an office building, if I'm if.
Speaker 3: My if my daughter goes to work for Deloitte or
Speaker 3: something like that, an accounting organization or a law firm
Speaker 3: or something, there's a certain expectation about how you're going
Speaker 3: to dress and present yourself. But they said that a
Speaker 3: couple of a couple of brands are using less than
Speaker 3: traditional workwar and using the friends like corp Core Office
Speaker 3: Siren which adds a little sexy part to it, I guess,
Speaker 3: and corporate fetish as ways to market the clothing that
Speaker 3: they're suggesting would be appropriate in the workplace.
Speaker 1: Whatever you're holding right now in your hand is not appropriate.
Speaker 2: That's my shoulder. No, no, no, the photo on the article.
Speaker 1: Oh you can see that already. Yeah, this is apparently
Speaker 1: a you can see the bottom of your ass cheek?
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't see that.
Speaker 1: That's because she's not turned around.
Speaker 3: At j Crue, they have sheer tops and mini skirts
Speaker 3: that are marketed as where to work, although that I
Speaker 3: would argue is too many for work at least. Yeah, Aritzia,
Speaker 3: they said that the effortless pant has taken over many
Speaker 3: young women's work wardrobes, as has that office Siren ad
Speaker 3: campaign that features the tight fitting off the shoulder dress.
Speaker 3: And they said, all of this is just they're trying
Speaker 3: to relax work wardrobe. They're trying to prove to people
Speaker 3: that the classic office suit became a trend to people
Speaker 3: who never even set foot in a cubicle. But it's
Speaker 3: important because some people have now said that this helps
Speaker 3: them feel more focused at work if they know that
Speaker 3: they have to have a certain look to them. I've
Speaker 3: seen crop tops in the office, for example. I've seen
Speaker 3: some leggings. But Rachel Goldstein, a twenty four year old
Speaker 3: strategy analyst whatever that is, says, I think a lot
Speaker 3: of gen Z thinks going into the office would be
Speaker 3: more fun if I dressed well.
Speaker 2: Of course, it is.
Speaker 1: Dress nicely for work one day, and then the next
Speaker 1: day dress like a hobo and figure out what day
Speaker 1: worked better for you if you're going to and I
Speaker 1: have this thought with myself all the time, where I'll
Speaker 1: put on a sweatshirt and tennis shoes and be like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to work.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, get a load of this good a day?
Speaker 1: Are you planning on having like a schlep just slept
Speaker 1: schlep sitting at a desk day? Like, how about maybe
Speaker 1: put on some put on some clothes that you want,
Speaker 1: just lounger on the house and your freaking lazy hobo.
Speaker 1: That's what I say to myself in the mirror, you
Speaker 1: lazy hobo.
Speaker 3: And you have a have an interesting mirror voice, do
Speaker 3: I Yeah, just that you'd say things like that to yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Look at you?
Speaker 1: My grandfather woke up in a three piece suit and
Speaker 1: I'm going to a place in the only business and
Speaker 1: it's in a in a spree sweatshirt.
Speaker 2: He had one three piece suit, No, he had several.
Speaker 2: He was a bit of a clothes horse. Oh my
Speaker 2: grandpa did not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had one and it was always clean somehow
Speaker 3: how Oh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They lived at the laundermat pretty much. I mean that
Speaker 1: all of their clothes were always so laundered and clean.
Speaker 1: I'm like my.
Speaker 3: Hobo, but it takes I think people are afraid that
Speaker 3: they don't have the ability to express themselves the way.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 3: I'm almost barfing when I say it. But it takes
Speaker 3: away their ability to express themselves in their own way.
Speaker 1: Express yourself through being productive at work and doing a
Speaker 1: good job, and people will notice you. People aren't going
Speaker 1: to notice you from your T shirt and be like,
Speaker 1: I want to find out more about that person. No, No,
Speaker 1: do a good job your T shirt right now? What
Speaker 1: about the Paris Red Peppers. Yeah, while a conversation.
Speaker 2: Topic, that's why I'm wearing a shirt over it.
Speaker 1: No, it's fine. I'm just saying that's not what makes
Speaker 1: you have a good day at work. You expressing yourself
Speaker 1: being a baseball fan. What makes you have a good
Speaker 1: day at work is doing a good job, I hope. So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're saying I could wear leggings tomorrow as
Speaker 3: long as I do a good job.
Speaker 1: I could if you wear leggings, I am turning around
Speaker 1: and leaving.
Speaker 3: All right, we don't need to know everything when we
Speaker 3: come back.
Speaker 2: The Dorothea Puente story, Remember that name.
Speaker 1: No one wants to see that ass in a pair
Speaker 1: of leggings.
Speaker 2: That's not true. That is not true. There is a
Speaker 2: lid for every pot.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, Okay, Dorothea Puente, the Grandmother from Hell brings
Speaker 1: us true crime Tuesday.
Speaker 4: The story is true, sounds true?
Speaker 2: No, it sounds made up. I don't know. Parry and
Speaker 2: Shannon present true crime.
Speaker 1: Dorothea Puente. If you spent any time in Sacramento, the
Speaker 1: name is familiar. Why because it's rare that a sweet
Speaker 1: little old grandmother.
Speaker 2: Is a serial killer.
Speaker 1: Dorothea ran a local boarding house there, and now she
Speaker 1: is no longer with us. She died in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: She was a white haired landlady. She would hand out
Speaker 1: homemade tamale's. She was very much into her gardening, rose beds,
Speaker 1: vegetable garden, tending to them all the time. But there
Speaker 1: was something else in that yard, not just rose, bushes
Speaker 1: and turnips.
Speaker 2: What was it? Bodies? Oh, that's right, that would turn up.
Speaker 3: So in the eighties, Dorothea Puente had opened her house
Speaker 3: as a boarding home and would help people with mental
Speaker 3: health drug abuse issues.
Speaker 2: And a bunch of.
Speaker 3: Social workers in the area knew of Dorothea Puente, and
Speaker 3: they knew that she had space, so they would recommend
Speaker 3: potential tenants to her, and she had a pretty good reputation.
Speaker 3: Most of the neighbors and the people in the community
Speaker 3: who knew her said she was just this kindly, old,
Speaker 3: big hearted woman who wanted to help these down and outers.
Speaker 1: In fact, several social workers in the area would recommend
Speaker 1: tenants to Dorothea. She gained a good reputation there in
Speaker 1: the community.
Speaker 3: The problem is she had murdered several of those tenants
Speaker 3: over the years and started collecting their social Security checks,
Speaker 3: and that she would even continue to write letters to
Speaker 3: the dead people's family members for months following their deaths
Speaker 3: in order to cover her tracks and lead to families
Speaker 3: to believe that there was nothing wrong and that their
Speaker 3: loved one was still alive somewhere.
Speaker 1: Dorothea Puente, Well, how did she get caught? It was
Speaker 1: February nineteen eighty eight when Dorothea took Alvero went by
Speaker 1: Bert Montoya into her care. Social worker Judy Moyce recommended Bert.
Speaker 1: He was fifty two, he was experiencing homelessness, and he
Speaker 1: stopped showing up to meetings with the social worker Judy.
Speaker 1: So she grows concerned, and she was a little suspicious
Speaker 1: about Grandma Dorothea because Dorothea was giving inconsistent answers about
Speaker 1: where Bert had gone. And so Judy's like hey, nine
Speaker 1: to one one investigators go take a look at good
Speaker 1: old Grandma Dorothea's home because I can't find my guy
Speaker 1: who is coming to me religiously, and she's been kind
Speaker 1: squirrely about where he's been at. Well, they sweep the
Speaker 1: home and they eventually dig up the bodies of not
Speaker 1: only Bert, but six other people in the backyard.
Speaker 3: Police didn't initially suspect that Grandma, big hearted old Dorothea
Speaker 3: Puente would have done this. They did not even arrest
Speaker 3: her right away, but she ran away to Vaga. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: She ran away to Los Angeles and people's and police's
Speaker 3: suspicion were raised. They started looking for her and figured
Speaker 3: out why are trying to figure out why she would
Speaker 3: have run, so sends him on a man hunt. Four
Speaker 3: days later, they take her into custody after an old
Speaker 3: guy at a bar here in La strikes up a
Speaker 3: conversation with her and recognizes her from the news.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So she faced trial for the murders in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: She was found guilty of three of them. The jury
Speaker 1: deliberated for twenty four days, and that is telling. That's
Speaker 1: one of the ways that she was probably able to
Speaker 1: evade any sort of suspicion, even after all those people
Speaker 1: went missing in her backyard, because who's going to believe
Speaker 1: that she had anything to do with it? Their wayward people, youth,
Speaker 1: for the most part, they're living life on the edges
Speaker 1: of society. Why would you believe that the grandmother who's
Speaker 1: given them a roof over their heads would have killed
Speaker 1: them and buried them in her backyard. I mean that
Speaker 1: alone is a lot that takes a lot.
Speaker 2: Being a grave to bury bodies, that.
Speaker 1: Takes a lot of elbow grease. She died, I would
Speaker 1: imagine natural.
Speaker 3: She died from natural causes back in twenty eleven, but
Speaker 3: gave some jailhouse interviews to sack Town Magazine before she
Speaker 3: died and said she's not guilty. She described herself extremely
Speaker 3: well or a routine oriented. She claimed to be devoutly religious.
Speaker 2: A routine killer. Well, there's that.
Speaker 3: And what did she miss most about the outside world,
Speaker 3: she said, go to church every day, cooking what I want,
Speaker 3: and working in my yard to bury the bodies.
Speaker 2: I mean to tend to my roses.
Speaker 1: The property, by the way, has become somewhat of a
Speaker 1: macabre tourist attraction in Sacramento.
Speaker 3: I remember looking that up a few years ago. We
Speaker 3: talked about the case in much greater detail, and you
Speaker 3: can on Google Earth. I don't know if it's still there,
Speaker 3: but they had put like a mannequin on the front porch.
Speaker 1: Yes, one of the guys that bought Okay, so Barbara
Speaker 1: and Tom are the people who bought the home. It
Speaker 1: was at auction in twenty ten, and Tom is leaned
Speaker 1: into the history. He dresses up this puente like mannequin
Speaker 1: on the front porch, framed photographs on the wall that
Speaker 1: document Dorothea's history there. He said that people stop by
Speaker 1: multiple times a day to catch a glimpse of where
Speaker 1: these crimes took place. That's taking it a step to two.
Speaker 1: But coming up next week on True Crime Tuesday, we're
Speaker 1: going to be talking about how Tom may be onto something,
Speaker 1: how this macabre true crime tourism may be the next chapter.
Speaker 2: Get a life that's weird. I would do it. I
Speaker 2: would go to these places.
Speaker 1: Like I said, pick pick up a better hobby, go
Speaker 1: to Michael's something, maybe nit a quilt, some sort of
Speaker 1: nit quilt.
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