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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. That's just massive, twelve o'clock hour, gigantic,

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<v Speaker 1>biggest one, huge, biggest one in four counties.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get so tired of the twelve o'clock hour winning.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dorothea Puente story is going to come up at

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the AAR. We talked about that that's

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<v Speaker 3>a Sacramento thing, but it was. It was such a

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<v Speaker 3>weirdly California specific story that I remember covering it and

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<v Speaker 3>just this, Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just very unsettling when a grandma like figure is

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<v Speaker 1>a murderer, because grandma is not just for fresh tomales.

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<v Speaker 1>In this case, she'll hand you a fresh tomale in

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<v Speaker 1>one hand and.

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<v Speaker 2>A butcher knife in the other.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she'll hang on to the butcher knife, but she'll

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<v Speaker 1>bury you with the other.

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<v Speaker 2>I got dad. Else is going on? Time four? What's happening? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we are?

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<v Speaker 4>It's happening is sponsored by a water damage are damage

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<v Speaker 4>burglary called Public Adjuster Abner Gap eight one eight nine

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<v Speaker 4>one seven five to two five six.

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<v Speaker 3>Will we are out of our particularly dangerous weather situation,

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<v Speaker 3>but we are still underregg red flag warnings through most

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<v Speaker 3>of southern California today. There were a couple of brushfires

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<v Speaker 3>that did pop up. Thankfully Cruise were able to get

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<v Speaker 3>on top of them. One down near the I fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>the Pola fire about twelve thirty this morning. About thirty

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<v Speaker 3>minutes later farther down south on I fifteen year old

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<v Speaker 3>Highway three ninety five called the Lilac fire. Both of

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<v Speaker 3>those all the forward progress has stopped. There was one

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<v Speaker 3>near the four or five in Granada Hills yesterday and

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<v Speaker 3>then one near Griffith Observatory, and again both of those

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<v Speaker 3>put out very quickly, thankfully, because those things we had

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<v Speaker 3>seen could get out of control.

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<v Speaker 1>Big fire at a hotel at a Turkish ski resort

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<v Speaker 1>happened just before dawn. It's killed sixty six people. They're

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one injured, just wild. It was about three am

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<v Speaker 1>at Grand Cartel, a hotel at this ski resort. It

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<v Speaker 1>was in northwestern Turkey. Fire breaks out in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night. Most of the victims were children and

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<v Speaker 1>they say suffocation was the cause of death.

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<v Speaker 3>The hotel was basically full two hundred and thirty thirty

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<v Speaker 3>eight registered guests because apparently it's a holiday there. They said,

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<v Speaker 3>all necessary steps taken to shed light on all aspects

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<v Speaker 3>of the incident hold those responsible. Some of the people

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<v Speaker 3>away from the fire and ended up dying in the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Bizarre story out of rural Alabama where a guy they say,

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<v Speaker 1>shot and killed a fire chief and Georgia who approached

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's home Sunday night. The chief was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>assist a driver stranded in the road. The driver had

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<v Speaker 1>apparently hit a deer and couldn't call for help because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know rural Alabama poor cell phone service. So

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<v Speaker 1>this fifty four year old fire chief, James Catherine, was

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<v Speaker 1>working outside on a nearby property. He notices the stranded

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<v Speaker 1>driver and his wife, So the chief and the driver

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<v Speaker 1>decide to approach a.

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<v Speaker 2>Home in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently, this guy, William Franklin, stepped outside the home as

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<v Speaker 1>these two guys were approaching and opened fire on both

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<v Speaker 3>All three of them suffered gunshot wounds in the shootout.

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<v Speaker 3>The driver that had hit the deer and was had

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<v Speaker 3>the car disabled, was apparently armed as well and returned fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a calculus teacher in high school. Mister Shrick

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<v Speaker 1>was his name, and he was a surly guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>one Christmas, me and my girlfriends, who at a classes

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the years, decided to go sing carols outside his home.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew where it was. It was in right on

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<v Speaker 1>Nevado Boulevards. It's turning into San Marein, like right before

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<v Speaker 1>you get to sam Mareen and it's that wooded area

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>We thought it would be funny. It was like a

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing. We were out stealing street signs. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>Nevado thing board. You're driving around, you have your license,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do. Steal in signs that say open trench

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<v Speaker 1>to put on your friend's front porches, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we decided to sing Christmas carols outside mister Shrick's home,

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<v Speaker 1>which was kind of like one of those really long driveways,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of trees on both sides, and we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be so funny. We get there and mister

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<v Speaker 1>Strick came out on the front porch with a shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>and so get the hell out of here. So so

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<v Speaker 1>that was the end of that. But this sounds kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like what happened in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Shoot anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>She did not, but he said, if you come back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll shoot you.

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<v Speaker 3>All Yeah, good old fashioned teachers, That's that's what teachers.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had a crush on, mister Shrek.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they did not.

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<v Speaker 1>They did even after that, huh, especially after that.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, historic snowfall bearing parts of the Gulf Coast

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<v Speaker 3>because of a once in a generation winter storm that

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<v Speaker 3>they say is wreaking havoc on travel. Airports in Houston

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<v Speaker 3>had to be shut down earlier today, and they said

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<v Speaker 3>that for the first time ever, parts of Louisiana are

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<v Speaker 3>under a blizzard warning. Low temperatures, wind chills from the

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<v Speaker 3>Canadian border all the way down to the Mexican border

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<v Speaker 3>hitting dangerous levels for the second consecutive day. My daughter

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<v Speaker 3>had snow in Waco, Texas yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she make a snow angel.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she did not. She stayed inside. Good told her,

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<v Speaker 2>stay inside, stay in.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just gonna tell her to stay inside the whole generation.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in Texas. She was busy at the lab the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. Anyway, So yeah, I stay inside. The whole time,

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<v Speaker 2>stay inside the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>Jet Blue is now going to take Venmo online for bookings,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a first for airlines. That kind of surprised

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<v Speaker 3>it hasn't happened to this point, but that's the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Venmo payment options now available on Jet Blue websites. They'll

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<v Speaker 3>roll out on their mobile app in the coming months.

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<v Speaker 3>And then, of course, the Ohio State outlasted Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 3>to take home the national championship last night in college

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<v Speaker 3>of football.

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<v Speaker 1>I turned it off when I got to twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>to seven. I don't want to watch this.

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<v Speaker 2>The fun it was a fun game.

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<v Speaker 3>After that, Notre Dame put together a handful of plays

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<v Speaker 3>that were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like did they got within eight? And then that what

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<v Speaker 1>fifty sixty yard bomb down the That must have just

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<v Speaker 1>been a that's college that I know they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>being the dagger play where you know you can't come

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<v Speaker 1>back from.

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<v Speaker 2>But that just and deflated.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, coming up next, we have your Jeopardy question.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exciting, and what do you wear at the office.

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<v Speaker 3>You and I don't have money recommend, We don't have

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<v Speaker 3>any requirements.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we like it.

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<v Speaker 3>We wear hard pants. Hard Pants is one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>But that even that was hard to come by. There

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<v Speaker 3>were a few years in there where it was like, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never come in here wearing leggings.

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<v Speaker 2>Leggings.

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<v Speaker 1>People were like leggings a lot. Yeah, yeah, here, don't

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<v Speaker 1>I would not like it if you came in here

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<v Speaker 1>wearing leggings.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not imagine.

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<v Speaker 3>I can almost guarantee that that will never happen. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you mean almost No, I don't know. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you mean, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not shutting the door on that kind of love.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I have a head injury.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Shannon just did a deep dive on Ray Strike.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Zach Seney Valley out here working these fires

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<v Speaker 4>on PCH for storing the power lines. Ray Shrike had

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<v Speaker 4>the longest be sure I think I've ever read. Really

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<v Speaker 4>looked like he was your teacher about all high school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>sounded like it was a great dude, embellished about how

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<v Speaker 4>poor he was. That was his claim to fame. But

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<v Speaker 4>Ray Shrike, Yeah, looks like I good looking dude.

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<v Speaker 2>He was.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my girlfriends texted me, She's like, not everybody

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<v Speaker 1>had a crush on him, that was just you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. Oh, that's funny. Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that somebody sent me this bit when

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. Yeah, good time.

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<v Speaker 2>That is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>We are expecting President Trump to speak from the White

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<v Speaker 3>House today. The new Press Secretary for the White House,

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline leave It, had said that she wasn't planning any

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<v Speaker 3>official news conference today or press briefing from the White House,

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<v Speaker 3>but that she did say President Trump was going to

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<v Speaker 3>tease a big infrastructure announcement from today. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>other things that's been going on in the background we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about. Senator Marco Rubio has now been officially confirmed

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<v Speaker 3>and sworn in as the new Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 2>He was actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Unanimously approved by the Senate ninety nine to nothing. The

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<v Speaker 3>Senate Finance Committee, it also advanced the nomination of Scott

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<v Speaker 3>Bessant for Treasury Secretary. And then more of these potential

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<v Speaker 3>cabinet members are continuing their interviews. Congresswoman at least Stefanic

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<v Speaker 3>was before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee this morning. The

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<v Speaker 3>Senate Veterans Affairs Committee interviewed Doug Collins to be the

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<v Speaker 3>next Secretary of the VA.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got your chance at one thousand dollars? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>do that? How come I never remember? Like? It completely

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<v Speaker 1>is a tune out for me because you were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at your mister shrikesbit, mister Shribit also is it because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't win the money?

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't care? I don't don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>You know when someone introduces themselves to you and you

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<v Speaker 3>forget their name immediately?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I actually try really hard not to be that person, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>who's our new boss?

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<v Speaker 2>What's his name? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody came in here told us we have a new boss.

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<v Speaker 1>What's his name?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I don't want to know. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's been public. Now, that's his first name? It starts

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<v Speaker 2>with a B, does it? Yes? Wait, you forgot already?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? No, you didn't?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I really did? So you remember that?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh it wasn't that bad? Oh yeah, yeah I remember?

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<v Speaker 5>How about you Jeopardy question? Okay, how about that? If

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't do that already?

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<v Speaker 2>Did we have?

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<v Speaker 1>This is when Jacob tells me I have cognitive decline.

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon Shannon remember cash contest winners for six hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty nineteen, she won a Golden Globe for her

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<v Speaker 1>role on the BBC America series Killing Eve.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, yeah, I will. Who is Jody Comer?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes no rhymes with no.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I said you were going to get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh okay, I thought that Jody Comber did a.

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<v Speaker 1>Better jo What it is you have against Sandra Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're she's right up there with the Diane Keaton Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's different. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, I feel bad every time we talk about clothes

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<v Speaker 3>and the clothes that people wear to work. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest. We're not the greatest jury for that because

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<v Speaker 3>we work in a radio station, which is one step

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<v Speaker 3>above a farm when it comes to the clothing that

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<v Speaker 3>is acceptable to work, and even that is not right

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<v Speaker 3>because in a farm you usually have had the equipments.

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<v Speaker 2>To be that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean twenty years ago, when I went to like

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<v Speaker 1>at KFBK, people dressed professionally. I had like seventeen blazers.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I did not drag when I was there

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<v Speaker 1>I always said I dressed. I always dressed overdressed, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say. In fact, I remember the boss saying, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to do in your your skirt and

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<v Speaker 1>your heels? When I send you out.

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<v Speaker 2>To a fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you always had a change of clothes. There's

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<v Speaker 1>car that's part of it. It's also a functional thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, right, I bet I covered the capitol though.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the thing is you could go from a

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<v Speaker 1>And back then you couldn't get into courthouses unless you

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<v Speaker 3>I remember in the state of Washington when I would

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<v Speaker 3>cover the capitol, I just stuff. In Olympia, if I

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<v Speaker 1>Was I was not allowed to cover a trial once

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't have a jacket with you.

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<v Speaker 3>So there are different workplaces where the attire is important.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my point was things have changed in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years now a lot more is acceptable. I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>look at the airports alone and people just wear their pajamas,

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<v Speaker 1>and the number of blankets that appear in the workplace

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean there's really been a sl lied

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to what's acceptable, and now the very

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<v Speaker 1>bare minimum is acceptable.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's an article Wall Street Journal was the new

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<v Speaker 3>rules for appropriate office where we'll have to do it

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<v Speaker 3>when we come back. But just in terms of what

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<v Speaker 3>it is that you think is acceptable. I my wife

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<v Speaker 3>was the one who told me. It's not her phrase,

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<v Speaker 3>but she told me one time, newly married, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was frustrated at work, and she's we're trying to brainstorm

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<v Speaker 3>how I'm going to get out of this rut, and

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<v Speaker 3>she said to me, dressed to the position to which

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<v Speaker 3>she aspired, that's the rule.

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<v Speaker 2>And again it's not wasn't her comment.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't, But it changed the way I thought about

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<v Speaker 3>what I was doing. Right, So I did start wearing

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<v Speaker 3>a tie to work, and I got a new.

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<v Speaker 2>Job quickly after that.

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<v Speaker 3>See, it wasn't because they fired me because it was

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<v Speaker 3>weren't a tie. It was because I had changed my

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<v Speaker 3>attitude about where I worked and what I thought my value.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go no further than Dion Sanders. Look good,

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<v Speaker 1>feel good, play good, Hey you good.

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<v Speaker 3>Fashion houses have decided that the office needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>perked up a little bit. Classics like suits and pencil

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<v Speaker 3>skirts are getting a new rebrand. They're saying that it's

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<v Speaker 3>sexier and more youthful. But crop tops, pajama pants and

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<v Speaker 3>miniskirts are all fair game.

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<v Speaker 2>They say.

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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to officewear. Crop tops, pajama pants, and

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<v Speaker 3>mini skirts.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen all of that for years.

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<v Speaker 3>But but I like I say, this is not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest right measure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like an office building, if I'm if.

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<v Speaker 3>My if my daughter goes to work for Deloitte or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that, an accounting organization or a law firm

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<v Speaker 3>or something, there's a certain expectation about how you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to dress and present yourself. But they said that a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of a couple of brands are using less than

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<v Speaker 3>traditional workwar and using the friends like corp Core Office

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<v Speaker 3>Siren which adds a little sexy part to it, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>and corporate fetish as ways to market the clothing that

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<v Speaker 3>they're suggesting would be appropriate in the workplace.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you're holding right now in your hand is not appropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my shoulder. No, no, no, the photo on the article.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you can see that already. Yeah, this is apparently

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<v Speaker 1>a you can see the bottom of your ass cheek?

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. You can't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because she's not turned around.

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<v Speaker 3>At j Crue, they have sheer tops and mini skirts

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<v Speaker 3>that are marketed as where to work, although that I

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<v Speaker 3>would argue is too many for work at least. Yeah, Aritzia,

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<v Speaker 3>they said that the effortless pant has taken over many

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<v Speaker 3>young women's work wardrobes, as has that office Siren ad

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<v Speaker 3>campaign that features the tight fitting off the shoulder dress.

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<v Speaker 3>And they said, all of this is just they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to relax work wardrobe. They're trying to prove to people

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<v Speaker 3>that the classic office suit became a trend to people

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<v Speaker 3>who never even set foot in a cubicle. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>important because some people have now said that this helps

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<v Speaker 3>them feel more focused at work if they know that

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<v Speaker 3>they have to have a certain look to them. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen crop tops in the office, for example. I've seen

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<v Speaker 3>some leggings. But Rachel Goldstein, a twenty four year old

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<v Speaker 3>strategy analyst whatever that is, says, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of gen Z thinks going into the office would be

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<v Speaker 3>more fun if I dressed well.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Dress nicely for work one day, and then the next

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<v Speaker 1>day dress like a hobo and figure out what day

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<v Speaker 1>worked better for you if you're going to and I

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<v Speaker 1>have this thought with myself all the time, where I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put on a sweatshirt and tennis shoes and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wait, get a load of this good a day?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you planning on having like a schlep just slept

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<v Speaker 1>schlep sitting at a desk day? Like, how about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>put on some put on some clothes that you want,

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<v Speaker 1>just lounger on the house and your freaking lazy hobo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I say to myself in the mirror, you

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<v Speaker 1>lazy hobo.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have a have an interesting mirror voice, do

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<v Speaker 3>I Yeah, just that you'd say things like that to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at you?

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<v Speaker 1>My grandfather woke up in a three piece suit and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to a place in the only business and

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<v Speaker 1>it's in a in a spree sweatshirt.

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<v Speaker 2>He had one three piece suit, No, he had several.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a bit of a clothes horse. Oh my

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<v Speaker 2>grandpa did not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he had one and it was always clean somehow

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<v Speaker 3>how Oh yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They lived at the laundermat pretty much. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>all of their clothes were always so laundered and clean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like my.

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<v Speaker 3>Hobo, but it takes I think people are afraid that

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have the ability to express themselves the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm almost barfing when I say it. But it takes

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<v Speaker 3>away their ability to express themselves in their own way.

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<v Speaker 1>Express yourself through being productive at work and doing a

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<v Speaker 1>good job, and people will notice you. People aren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to notice you from your T shirt and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to find out more about that person. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>do a good job your T shirt right now? What

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<v Speaker 1>about the Paris Red Peppers. Yeah, while a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Topic, that's why I'm wearing a shirt over it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's fine. I'm just saying that's not what makes

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<v Speaker 1>you have a good day at work. You expressing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>being a baseball fan. What makes you have a good

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<v Speaker 1>day at work is doing a good job, I hope. So.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you're saying I could wear leggings tomorrow as

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<v Speaker 3>long as I do a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>I could if you wear leggings, I am turning around

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<v Speaker 1>and leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we don't need to know everything when we

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<v Speaker 3>come back.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dorothea Puente story, Remember that name.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants to see that ass in a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of leggings.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not true. That is not true. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>lid for every pot.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, Okay, Dorothea Puente, the Grandmother from Hell brings

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<v Speaker 1>us true crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 4>The story is true, sounds true?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it sounds made up. I don't know. Parry and

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon present true crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothea Puente. If you spent any time in Sacramento, the

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<v Speaker 1>name is familiar. Why because it's rare that a sweet

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<v Speaker 1>little old grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothea ran a local boarding house there, and now she

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer with us. She died in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a white haired landlady. She would hand out

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<v Speaker 1>homemade tamale's. She was very much into her gardening, rose beds,

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<v Speaker 1>vegetable garden, tending to them all the time. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was something else in that yard, not just rose, bushes

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<v Speaker 1>and turnips.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it? Bodies? Oh, that's right, that would turn up.

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<v Speaker 3>So in the eighties, Dorothea Puente had opened her house

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<v Speaker 3>as a boarding home and would help people with mental

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<v Speaker 3>health drug abuse issues.

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<v Speaker 2>And a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 3>Social workers in the area knew of Dorothea Puente, and

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<v Speaker 3>they knew that she had space, so they would recommend

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<v Speaker 3>potential tenants to her, and she had a pretty good reputation.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of the neighbors and the people in the community

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<v Speaker 3>who knew her said she was just this kindly, old,

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<v Speaker 3>big hearted woman who wanted to help these down and outers.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, several social workers in the area would recommend

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<v Speaker 1>tenants to Dorothea. She gained a good reputation there in

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<v Speaker 1>the community.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is she had murdered several of those tenants

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<v Speaker 3>over the years and started collecting their social Security checks,

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<v Speaker 3>and that she would even continue to write letters to

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<v Speaker 3>the dead people's family members for months following their deaths

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<v Speaker 3>in order to cover her tracks and lead to families

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<v Speaker 3>to believe that there was nothing wrong and that their

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<v Speaker 3>loved one was still alive somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Dorothea Puente, Well, how did she get caught? It was

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<v Speaker 1>February nineteen eighty eight when Dorothea took Alvero went by

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<v Speaker 1>Bert Montoya into her care. Social worker Judy Moyce recommended Bert.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fifty two, he was experiencing homelessness, and he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped showing up to meetings with the social worker Judy.

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<v Speaker 1>So she grows concerned, and she was a little suspicious

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<v Speaker 1>about Grandma Dorothea because Dorothea was giving inconsistent answers about

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<v Speaker 1>where Bert had gone. And so Judy's like hey, nine

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<v Speaker 1>to one one investigators go take a look at good

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<v Speaker 1>old Grandma Dorothea's home because I can't find my guy

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<v Speaker 1>who is coming to me religiously, and she's been kind

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<v Speaker 1>squirrely about where he's been at. Well, they sweep the

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<v Speaker 1>home and they eventually dig up the bodies of not

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<v Speaker 1>only Bert, but six other people in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>Police didn't initially suspect that Grandma, big hearted old Dorothea

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<v Speaker 3>Puente would have done this. They did not even arrest

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<v Speaker 3>her right away, but she ran away to Vaga. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>She ran away to Los Angeles and people's and police's

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<v Speaker 3>suspicion were raised. They started looking for her and figured

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<v Speaker 3>out why are trying to figure out why she would

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<v Speaker 3>have run, so sends him on a man hunt. Four

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<v Speaker 3>days later, they take her into custody after an old

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<v Speaker 3>guy at a bar here in La strikes up a

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with her and recognizes her from the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So she faced trial for the murders in nineteen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 1>She was found guilty of three of them. The jury

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<v Speaker 1>deliberated for twenty four days, and that is telling. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the ways that she was probably able to

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<v Speaker 1>evade any sort of suspicion, even after all those people

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<v Speaker 1>went missing in her backyard, because who's going to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that she had anything to do with it? Their wayward people, youth,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, they're living life on the edges

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<v Speaker 1>of society. Why would you believe that the grandmother who's

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<v Speaker 1>given them a roof over their heads would have killed

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<v Speaker 1>them and buried them in her backyard. I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>alone is a lot that takes a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Being a grave to bury bodies, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Takes a lot of elbow grease. She died, I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine natural.

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<v Speaker 3>She died from natural causes back in twenty eleven, but

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<v Speaker 3>gave some jailhouse interviews to sack Town Magazine before she

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<v Speaker 3>died and said she's not guilty. She described herself extremely

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<v Speaker 3>well or a routine oriented. She claimed to be devoutly religious.

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<v Speaker 2>A routine killer. Well, there's that.

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<v Speaker 3>And what did she miss most about the outside world,

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<v Speaker 3>she said, go to church every day, cooking what I want,

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<v Speaker 3>and working in my yard to bury the bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to tend to my roses.

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<v Speaker 1>The property, by the way, has become somewhat of a

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<v Speaker 1>macabre tourist attraction in Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember looking that up a few years ago. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the case in much greater detail, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can on Google Earth. I don't know if it's still there,

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<v Speaker 3>but they had put like a mannequin on the front porch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, one of the guys that bought Okay, so Barbara

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom are the people who bought the home. It

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<v Speaker 1>was at auction in twenty ten, and Tom is leaned

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<v Speaker 1>into the history. He dresses up this puente like mannequin

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<v Speaker 1>on the front porch, framed photographs on the wall that

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<v Speaker 1>document Dorothea's history there. He said that people stop by

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times a day to catch a glimpse of where

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<v Speaker 1>these crimes took place. That's taking it a step to two.

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<v Speaker 1>But coming up next week on True Crime Tuesday, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about how Tom may be onto something,

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<v Speaker 1>how this macabre true crime tourism may be the next chapter.

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<v Speaker 2>Get a life that's weird. I would do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>would go to these places.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, pick pick up a better hobby, go

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael's something, maybe nit a quilt, some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>nit quilt.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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