WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:20.559 The Force will be with you always. Hello and welcome 2 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:25.239 back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance. I'm gonna 3 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:29.719 sound horrible for this episode. I do not have my 4 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:35.159 microphone or my camera, but I will say hopefully all 5 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:35.520 of that. 6 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.240 Will change by next week. 7 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:41.600 But I am here of course, your host Clay and 8 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:46.079 with the light always is Katie, Katie, how you doing? 9 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:53.399 Everybody? From my luscious apartment? I gave a bastline apartment 10 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:54.039 at my mom's. 11 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:56.799 I love it. I tried. 12 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:03.359 My camera is so crap that, uh, the background feature 13 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.640 can't read that I'm like in a room, so it 14 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.599 can't even change my background. It can't change between, it 15 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:19.159 can't change between, like I can't tell that. Yeah, So 16 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:22.280 so uh, I was like, oh, I guess I'm just 17 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.680 going to be just like this is with this crappy camera. 18 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:31.359 Excuse me. Uh but guys, uh, we are here today. 19 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:36.840 If you see of this episode, this is the High 20 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:43.680 Republic Middle Grade analysis and ranking. The idea behind all 21 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:48.040 of this was it started out as, hey, let's do 22 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.959 a ranking of the High Republic. We'll do the phase 23 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:53.599 all of phase one, then we'll do phase two, and 24 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:55.959 we'll do phase three. So that way because at the 25 00:01:56.079 --> 00:02:00.319 very end of the High Republic initiative, we did kind 26 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:03.359 of talk about like our favorites, how it all ended, 27 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:07.280 and everything else, but we like, throughout the course of 28 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:15.400 reading the phrase, we did not talk about rankings. So 29 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:20.159 this time around, Katie was like, Hey, instead of doing 30 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:23.560 it phase by phase, let's do it reading grade by 31 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:26.960 reading grade. And the reason why we're doing this is 32 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:31.680 to now see if there is a coherent story for 33 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:36.960 each reading level, because not everyone is going to be 34 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:40.520 like us. Not everyone is going to say, hey, I'm 35 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:42.520 going to read all of. 36 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:43.319 The High Republic. 37 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.479 There's gonna be people who are like, hey, they just 38 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:51.159 see a High Republic book on the shelf, pick it 39 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:55.840 up and start reading right, or somebody's like, oh, you know, 40 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.520 I started reading this through Star Wars story It starts 41 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:01.919 with and then it's the Light of the Jedi, you know. 42 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:11.719 So we decided to go reading level, and it was yesterday. 43 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:17.759 I thought when we said reading level, I thought we 44 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:21.159 were doing reading level by the phase, but you. 45 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.680 Wanted to rank them all and so I was like, 46 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:28.000 middle grade a legit ranking too. 47 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:30.879 Yes, So this the way we're going to do it 48 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:36.000 today is an actual legitmate for reading levels, of course, 49 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:39.240 but my initial thought was, oh, we'll do it by phase. 50 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:41.639 We'll do the reading levels. It'll be easy. 51 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.719 That's three books that I have to read before recording. 52 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:48.919 That's super simple. And then Katie sends me a screenshot 53 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:50.919 last week and she's like. 54 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:52.400 I'm falling behind. 55 00:03:52.960 --> 00:04:00.560 No, no, And I see a screenshot of the I'm like, wait, 56 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:06.479 wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, why 57 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:07.199 are you reading that? 58 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:08.960 I thought we're only gonna do this and then she 59 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:10.080 explains to me, and I'm. 60 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.960 Like, oh, okay, well, time this speed run because at 61 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:15.240 that point I was. 62 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:24.680 Only uh literally the last two chapters of which is 63 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:26.040 the second book. 64 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:30.000 And she's like, great, sure we can pivot, we can 65 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:31.160 do something else with No. 66 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:34.680 No, we're good, We're good. You know, We're totally okay. 67 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:37.000 I gotta do a lot of laundry. 68 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:39.360 Yeah. 69 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:41.199 I was like, I got chords to dude, I'm just 70 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.120 gonna be listening to stuff all day. It's gonna be 71 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:48.160 totally funny. I got to the end of Phase two. 72 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:50.720 I didn't read any of Phase three, but I did 73 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:54.759 tell Katie right before we started recording that because of 74 00:04:54.839 --> 00:05:00.399 the fact that Phase three was so recent A La 75 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:05.399 last year, I was able to retain a lot of 76 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:07.560 the stuff that happened in the three books. 77 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:13.920 Yeah, I'm poor transparencies. I also did not finish, but 78 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:17.120 I got through Beware the Nameless, and I remember a 79 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.360 good chunk of a Valiant Valiant refreshed my brain with 80 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.800 my Manner's review of a Valiant Valve. 81 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:28.319 So okay, yeah, yeah, okay. 82 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:32.040 Because he delves into more spoiler side of things. And 83 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.319 Wikipedia did not have a plat summary. 84 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:37.199 So that makes that makes sense. 85 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:42.720 So we are going to be talking about these three 86 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:46.399 or five, six, seven, eight books. There's eight books in all. 87 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.600 Phase two is the only phase that did not have 88 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:50.519 three books. 89 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:51.199 It only had two. 90 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.199 But one of the talking points was that Katie brought 91 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:02.079 up in this discussion of like, well, oh yes, we're 92 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:06.959 gonna one one piece of news and I'm so mad. 93 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:11.439 Uh this is this is the PC Alliance effect, guys, 94 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:18.639 because every single time they have like a trailer or news, 95 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.600 it's always like, hey, it's gonna happen the day after 96 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:24.480 they were It finally happened to us, and it's happened 97 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.800 to us before in the past, but this one I'm 98 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:27.959 a little disappointed about. 99 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:29.319 Guys. 100 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:35.519 We are getting the Ninth Jedi series trailer tomorrow, So 101 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:38.480 by the time you are listening to this on your 102 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:44.480 podcast of choice, I'll Catcher sorry choice, you could probably 103 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:49.480 already watch it. It's gonna be debuting on Thursday, July second. 104 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:51.800 I'm super excited about this. 105 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:57.600 Of course, we have talked in Agnolgia about how we 106 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:02.319 are so excited about the series because this is finally 107 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:06.639 something that is outside of the realm of the Skywalker saga. 108 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:19.439 We really enjoyed the last Ronan. Yeah, yeah, it was 109 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:23.480 just Ronan, That's right. It was Ronan, which jove deeper 110 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:29.120 into that story of visions and the world that it 111 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.759 built was really really cool, really fun, very supernatural. Uh, 112 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.800 and we really enjoyed it. Now we get to dive 113 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:38.399 into another one of those, of course, being the Ninth Jedi. 114 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:43.879 And I'm just I'm so excited genuinely because we have 115 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:49.600 been I wouldn't say that we've been uh what's like 116 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:56.079 the well is running dry, but I feel. 117 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:59.120 Like I feel like we've been we've been lacking with 118 00:07:59.199 --> 00:07:59.959 some content reason. 119 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:04.040 So so jumping into a new series is gonna be 120 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:07.160 a lot, a lot of fun, and we will talk 121 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.720 about the trailer of course next week. 122 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:15.519 Wait we see it and it's all glory and. 123 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.920 Guys, this month is going to be super funky because 124 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.439 we are closing Matt and I, my husband and I 125 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:26.720 are closing on our house next week, so we will 126 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:30.399 have some pre recorded episodes for you guys in the 127 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.480 back half of the month, and we'll probably be back 128 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:38.879 the last week of July talking about the New Visions manga. 129 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.759 But we were fortunate enough to receive advanced review copies 130 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:52.080 of Star Wars Legacy from Random House Worlds, so we've 131 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:54.840 got that one in our belt, and so that embargo 132 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:59.159 is actually up in two weeks on July fourteenth, so 133 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:01.519 we will have a pre recorded episode for you guys 134 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:06.960 talking about that review. I think it's the sixteenth is 135 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:10.840 when that episode would drop into podcasters, and then the 136 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:17.320 following week it's actually Eyes Like Stars Releases, which is 137 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:19.960 I believe it's still from Random House Worlds, but it's 138 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:22.879 an imprint, so it's I think it's a Dela Corte Press, 139 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:26.039 and so we did get that arc as well, so 140 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:27.559 we will be able to talk to you guys about 141 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:32.440 both of those legacy at the embargo date, and then 142 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:34.759 we will have a review for you guys, Win Eyes 143 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:38.639 like Stars releases that is going to be pre recorded. 144 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.039 So those are the two things that you can look 145 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.679 forward to. So the sixteenth and then the following week 146 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.000 would be I think the twenty third, So then the 147 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:51.759 thirtieth we will be back, so that would be the 148 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:57.360 twenty ninth, we would be back on YouTube live that week. 149 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:01.279 So yeah, really really excited. 150 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:06.720 And also we did receive the audio files for Legacies, 151 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.799 so we are going to be able to actually listen 152 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:14.200 to the audio it's released as well, and we'll talk 153 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:19.320 about that in our review. But yeah, guys, we're gonna 154 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.519 be talking about the High Republic middle grade books. 155 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:22.799 Now. 156 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:26.639 One of the topics that Katie wanted to go over 157 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:29.919 was the fact that, like, hey, is there a coherent 158 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:32.279 story between. 159 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:37.440 Each of these books throughout Beach Face long story Shorts. 160 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:39.000 I would say. 161 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:48.519 No, I think you have a decent cohesive story in 162 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:54.200 Phase two and Phase three, Like singular stories Phase one, 163 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:57.639 I don't think you have a cohesive story. And as 164 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:01.200 much as I love Ram, it's the race to Crash 165 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:07.440 Point Tower, even though you have Vernestra, that is detracted 166 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:13.120 because Vernestra's story in that in that wave takes place 167 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.399 in the young adult story. And so in the the 168 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:23.639 Wave three book of Phase one, which is Mission to Disaster, 169 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:27.080 you've got like Imrine goes, oh, but I thought your 170 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:31.000 hyper space vision or your visions only happened in hyperspace, 171 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.200 and I had to go like, wait, when did that 172 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:41.159 come up? Like, and it's because it happens in just 173 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:42.879 in the Ireland's young adult book. 174 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:50.799 Yes, And I think that in this way of storytelling 175 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:57.600 at best, the middle grade like the way you can 176 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:02.519 look at it is in overall story of the High Republic, 177 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:08.039 with that an anthology of stories. That's what this feels like. 178 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.559 If you were to just read the middle grade books 179 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:15.840 back to back to back, it would genuinely feel like 180 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:23.039 an anthology with some characters able to be still involved. 181 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:25.840 Yeah. 182 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:37.279 And with the Phase two I feel like that one. 183 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:42.519 I do agree with you. There is a singular like story. 184 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:46.200 Because you've got Dash and you've got Ruper in both stories. 185 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:50.840 And yes, do you have side characters come in like 186 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.519 different side characters in each one. Yes, but that those 187 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:59.519 two middle grade books are telling Ruper story with some 188 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:03.799 sprinkle of Dash as the other main character in this. 189 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:08.559 I think for Phase three as much as I wanted 190 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:12.200 it to be, Emory's story takes place and defy the 191 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:15.799 storm and a valiant vowel, and so for Phase three, 192 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:21.399 the story is actually about Teptep as the main character, 193 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:26.879 because she's the character that transcends all three stories, and 194 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:31.639 it really develops her growth across the whole thing, from 195 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:34.679 a youngling who was trying to find her place as 196 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:40.440 a trans female in the Jedi Order and coming into 197 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.080 the end of a valiant vow where she gets to 198 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.720 be a pad one of someone who she really values 199 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:50.559 their opinion and wants to be like them and has 200 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:56.879 got a great mentor in that regard. So Phase three 201 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:01.080 is definitely a Tep Tep story. Again, I wanted Emory 202 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.720 because I feel like we left Emory in such a 203 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:08.919 fragile state at the end, and I know that he 204 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.039 also has some bits and pieces a little bit in 205 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.600 the comics, but really I felt like at the end 206 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.559 of a Mission to Disaster, I was like, dude, I'm 207 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:21.679 scared for Emory. I remember feeling that in the beginning. 208 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:25.639 I was scared for Vernestra too, but I knew Vernestra 209 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:29.039 was too popular to really kill off at that point, 210 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:32.879 and so coming into phase three, I was like, Okay, 211 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.480 we're getting Emory and these and I get you had 212 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.279 more authors come in for phase two who wanted to 213 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:42.360 do new things in phase three, but I was like, 214 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:47.879 I just wish that we had finished the story that 215 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.840 we would have gotten with the characters that we started with. 216 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.159 And I think that's the down side of saying, Okay, 217 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:55.919 we're gonna take a break and go back in time 218 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:57.919 and then come back to these stories. 219 00:14:58.679 --> 00:14:59.240 Yeah. 220 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:06.000 Yeah, that looking at it retrospectively, I think I would 221 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:11.879 have appreciated the mystery a little bit more if we 222 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.919 go like if you rearranged it, I would have gone 223 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:23.279 a phase one, phase three, phase two. And the reason 224 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:26.399 why that is is this is coming from the guy 225 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:28.440 that that hates. 226 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:31.279 When stories. 227 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:36.919 Yes, when when stories are told in not the correct timeline, 228 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:40.360 and when I say in the correct timeline, I mean 229 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:45.720 more in the correct like numbering. But I think it 230 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:50.519 would have been a little bit more fun because looking 231 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:56.720 back at these books in phase one, I forgot how 232 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:10.200 many teases there were two face too, with the path. 233 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:16.159 With the blight and everything else. 234 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.440 I thought, okay, cool, this like now I see it, 235 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:23.519 like there's there's actual like cause Again, when we were 236 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:26.720 reading this, we had no idea what was happening in. 237 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.399 We didn't even have like teasons, what does that happen? 238 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.200 I think it was in Mission to Disaster. When we 239 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:42.080 start to hear of like, oh, there was like some 240 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:46.320 bad things that happened a long time ago and it 241 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:48.039 had to deal with you. 242 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.919 Know, Dolma and all of this other stuff, it's like. 243 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:55.799 Yeah, and again it's like, oh, we can get access 244 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.759 to this information, but we have to request it from the. 245 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:01.720 JIT order and all these other things. 246 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:06.039 Like you start to see now, you know, post post mortem, 247 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:09.839 it's like, oh, okay, yeah, they were a. 248 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:13.200 Lot of things, but like at the same time, they 249 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:17.839 plugged all those things in a Mission to Disaster and 250 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:23.559 didn't really follow up on anything. Because the way you 251 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.039 think about it, right when Michael said, Glaine was like, oh, yeah, 252 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.160 we're gonna do middle grade, we're gonna do young adult, 253 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:31.960 we're gonna do adult. We're gonna have all age comics. 254 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.799 We're gonna have adult comics, and you're gonna be able 255 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:40.079 to read one thing and follow a singular story throughout. 256 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:42.720 And this is the whole point of why I wanted 257 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:48.480 to switch it up and do the different reading reading things. 258 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:53.319 I don't know what you call these re reading levels. 259 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.640 That's right. I wanted to do the reading levels because 260 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:00.039 I remember him saying that and going, Okay, if I 261 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:05.400 read these on their own, with no other context, how 262 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:08.039 would I feel about how the story carried out? If 263 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:12.759 I was just like, oh, my fifth grader wants to 264 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:14.720 read these and I'm gonna pick up every single one 265 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.599 and see how it goes. Yeah, they would be really 266 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:19.839 confused in the middle. 267 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:23.599 Oh yeah, I don't think like, even when you get 268 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:29.279 to Mission to Disaster, you have names like Lorna D 269 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:32.720 being thrown about like crazy, and it's just like it 270 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.720 was Lorna D. But they keep telling you, oh, it's 271 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:40.359 the Eye, the Eye, the Eye, the Eye. And then 272 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:44.759 when you go to escape from Escape from Bellow, where 273 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:48.000 the Nameless and a valiant Bow, at this point they're 274 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:53.000 already talking about marketing, and it's like you never get 275 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:55.599 to learn about d. 276 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.880 Yeah, because the the if you were reading everything in 277 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:04.119 or to your only reference to a Row at that 278 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:06.799 point is marta Row at the end of a Quest 279 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:13.319 for Planet x SO, and I get the point of Okay, 280 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:16.480 let's throw in easter eggs to see if they'll read 281 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:18.759 something else, see if we can get them to buy 282 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:23.480 something else. Not to this extent, though, this is hey, 283 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:26.279 there's something else going on and that you don't know about, 284 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:28.000 kind of thing like. 285 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:35.480 Ha ha, I have not yet gotten my moving pod yet. 286 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:38.759 It has my desk and it has on my books. 287 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:43.720 I need to go back to the middle grade specifically 288 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:49.680 and see if the inside of the sleeves have any 289 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.319 type of next reading. 290 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:57.799 Recommendations, Yeah, like at the back. Yeah, because I think 291 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:00.039 that in some cases. 292 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:05.519 What you're saying should happen should be like, oh, you 293 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.960 know you finished with this, now you should read this. 294 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:09.559 You know. 295 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:16.400 We see it a lot in the Marvel comics. At 296 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:19.359 the very end of the comics they have like two 297 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:22.599 whole pages that are like, oh, this is what's also 298 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:29.599 on sale in the Star Wars line of things. 299 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:31.400 And so I'm curious. I know they wouldn't. 300 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:34.119 Really do it in the young adult and the adult 301 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.079 novels because. 302 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:38.440 That's just not something you do. But unfortunately, just the. 303 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:45.200 Way that younger audiences are marketed to is and we 304 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.240 have to tell them to go buy something else, you know. 305 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:53.000 So I'm interested to see if they have anything like that. 306 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:59.319 Don't remember if they do or not. But Katie, looking 307 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:05.359 at these eight books, you got through six of them. 308 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:10.759 I got through five of them, seven, seven of them 309 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:18.000 seven and I got through five. I remember the last 310 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:23.079 three pretty well. I want to know, because there's eight, 311 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.799 what are your top not top four? 312 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.240 Your what is your bottom four? You had to choose 313 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:32.480 between these? 314 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:37.160 I feel like that's really rude with these big middle grade. 315 00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:44.559 I understand, like we are in our thirties, like this 316 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:48.920 is our audiences that are that are twelve or or younger. 317 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:52.039 But still thinking. 318 00:21:52.119 --> 00:22:02.039 That in mind, I really feel like, as much as 319 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:05.119 I love to write a Cordova is writing, I feel like, 320 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:07.480 be where the name And I'm not saying this is 321 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:10.039 like in order as my bottom I would say this 322 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:14.480 is probably just at the bottom. I would probably have 323 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:19.960 to say, but where the Nameless sits there? I think 324 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:24.160 originally when I read these, both of the Phase two 325 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:30.480 books were down there. However, looking at it from a 326 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:34.000 reread perspective, I think the only one I'm going to 327 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:37.400 put down there is Quest for the Hid in the City, 328 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:39.000 which is the first one. 329 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:42.319 Now is that because it's a horror book? 330 00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:52.440 Yes? I still could not stand Gloam Gloom I strongly 331 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:59.759 just liked it, but I loved a question for Planet 332 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:04.200 that and I remember like thinking like, Okay, this one's 333 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:11.960 pretty good and then oh gosh, I think Mission to Disaster. 334 00:23:15.400 --> 00:23:19.359 And that's mainly because of the House Yon plug in there. 335 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:23.680 I feel like Justina Ireland wanted to write a different 336 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.839 book and they said, yeah, but we need start like 337 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:27.920 Beacon to move. 338 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:34.720 Mm hmmm, yeah, I'm going to unfortunately. 339 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:40.960 Have Planet X is going to get a stray bullet 340 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:41.240 from me. 341 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:47.359 That one out of the two Face two books, I 342 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:52.240 like Hidden City more. I really like George Man's uh 343 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:57.240 adventure through the horror genre and there I thought it 344 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:01.799 was really really fun. I will also say in Phase three, 345 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:06.839 out of all three books, I would say this is 346 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:08.920 the weakest. 347 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.240 I'm not gonna say it's bad, it's just the weakest. 348 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:16.440 Of the Yeah, and I love so Nuge. 349 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:21.880 Yeah, it was his introduction, like I really enjoyed him 350 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:25.799 as a character. And then I don't know if you 351 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:30.960 remember this, but as my very first time reading this book, 352 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:33.160 crash Point. 353 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:35.680 Oh yeah, I ever read Crash Point. 354 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:37.440 Crash Point was. 355 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:43.960 I was not on the podcast until after Crash Point. 356 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:45.920 I was. 357 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.039 I joined in during phase one, but it was after 358 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:51.480 the first pay books, and I. 359 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:54.119 Had you go back and read a Test of Courage. 360 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.720 Because Mission to Disaster was refocusing on Burgnastra, I didn't 361 00:24:57.720 --> 00:24:59.640 have you go read Race to Crash Point Tower. 362 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:02.200 Yeah. 363 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:07.759 So my three from each phase is crash Point, uh, 364 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:12.920 planet X and be where the names was. And then 365 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:21.200 my fourth just because I do think it was I 366 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:23.799 feel like the second time reading it was a little 367 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:27.319 bit of a drag, and that is Mission to Disaster. 368 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.039 I think that there was just too much to focus 369 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:38.079 on for especially for a middle grade book. 370 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:43.079 We had when we talked about the High Republic. 371 00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.880 A very popular conversation that we have between the two 372 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:52.920 of us is perspectives. And I do think that a 373 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:57.160 middle grading book can have more than one perspective, but 374 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.680 it shouldn't go crazy. Mission to this asked here. I 375 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:07.400 do feel like went a little crazy with the perspectives 376 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.839 because we get Renis show, we get uh, memory, we 377 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:17.359 get uh, and then we get. 378 00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.920 There was one more? Was there? One? 379 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:20.279 One? 380 00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:22.759 It was just those three, and it just felt like 381 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:23.960 it might have just. 382 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.960 Been a longer Yeah, it is a longer book. 383 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:34.559 Yeah, but yeah, those would be my bottom four. And 384 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:37.119 again guys. It's it's not us just being like, hey, 385 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:41.480 let's tear these kids books apart. You know, yeah, we 386 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.039 we enjoyed reading these, and we do want to give 387 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.160 them a proper like like is this something like. 388 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:51.279 Because eventually. 389 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:57.119 Amberlin is not necessarily ready for chapter books right now, 390 00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.759 she's of coourse still three going on to four years old, 391 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:02.599 but she will start to get interested in it, and 392 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.519 of course I'm going to introduce her to stuff that 393 00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.200 we already owned and so like. 394 00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.720 Saying like, hey, you can read these, She's gonna have 395 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:13.000 a lot. 396 00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:15.000 I feel like she's gonna have a lot of questions 397 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.160 if she just reads the first three books and then 398 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:19.079 jumps into. 399 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.359 Phase two and like hey, what's going on here? You know? 400 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.160 So that's I think one of. 401 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:32.039