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ready for the Holy War. It's one of my favorite weeks.
It's the most wonderful time of the year. Basketball season
upon us BYU football six and zero two consecutive years.
Speaker 2: It has never been done.
Speaker 3: Their top twenty five and they get to beat they
get to play. They have an opportunity to beat the
University of Utah at home. Kyle Whittingham could be in
his last year. You could send Kyle Whittingham home with
three consecutive losses, ushering him and pushing him into.
Speaker 2: Retirement.
Speaker 3: And how glorious would that be if you're a BYU fan,
How glorious would that be to have the tables turned
in the modern era all of sudden because BYU has
a power for conference affiliation, All of a sudden they
have a few more resources. All the sudden nil and
Transfer portal has allowed BYU to booy up their program.
And look how the stories are flipping. And it's a
great opportunity. Can't wait to see what happens. Crazy thing
is BYU's nodding not even a favorite in this game.
We're gonna get into all the knicks of Granny's, all
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Speaker 3: Welcome in, co host, host, producer, executive producer. Uh the One,
the Only, Ronald, the three Man Weaver. On a Holy
War Tuesday, Ronnie, howy you.
Speaker 2: Living living good? Happy rivalry Week?
Speaker 4: To everybody, stay off of Twitter, Be peacemakers, be nice.
In the words of the former leader of the church,
there's a new leader of the church, but be peacemakers.
Speaker 2: Those messages will still be echoed.
Speaker 4: You can still love your brother as Keanusanovasa does, but
you can still smash them between the lines and picked
them up in.
Speaker 2: A loving way as well. Yeah, President Dallan A.
Speaker 3: Jokes was announced today as the eighteenth President of the
Prophet and Prophet of the Church of the Christ latterday Saints,
as well as others. The new leader of Global faith
of more than seventeen million members has called President Henry
b Iring and President D. Todd Christofferson to serve with
him as first and second counselors in the first presidency
of the church. President Oaks also announced that President Jeffrey R.
Holland will be the President of the Korumer of the
Twelve Apostles. Shout out to the LDS faith that has
been attacked and has been attacked physically and verbally jousted
with on.
Speaker 2: A public forum.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy what's happened over the last month within
the faith.
Speaker 2: And hopefully we can keep the.
Speaker 3: Faith as Killani stated, and keep on moving in a
positive direction and that includes spiritually and temporarily. And we
are talking temporal needs today. Temporal needs are a win
at Lavelle Edwards Stadium to send Kyle Whittingham into retirement.
B Ham hammertime show also in the house. Brett Hammer like,
how we feeling right now about BYU's chances.
Speaker 5: I was a little shocked that Byu is not a
favorite here only because I do think this game is
fifty to fifty, Like I think it's a coin flip.
Whoever you pick, you have a very legitimate argument to
feeling that they are the winner.
Speaker 2: But I figured since.
Speaker 5: Byu was at home, they would have been favored based
off of that alone.
Speaker 2: And we know ron in.
Speaker 5: Vegas you get three points for being at home, you do,
which means they believe that if this is played on
a neutral site, because what is it's three and a
half points right now, two and a half points, three
and a half year, so they think if this is
a neutral site game, they think Utah is.
Speaker 2: Winning by a touchdown touchdown, which I do not believe
at all.
Speaker 5: FPI has bou winning but only fifty one percent to
forty nine percent. I am a little shocked that Byu
is not a favorite just because this game is at home. However,
Vegas probably also knows that in this in state rivalry,
there are no true home games because when it's forty
minutes forty five minutes between each stadiums depending on how
you drive, the illusion of a home game doesn't really exist.
It's going to be packed with blue and red. We
will see how this thing goes. I think b Yu
gets the dub, but this is not gonna be an
easy one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I may put out today as a question today,
like your favorite memory in the Holy War? You know,
the there's been so many great games. There's been so
many great experiences, and there's also been the bad experiences,
the one that have maybe the wounds are still there
even with a two game winning streak, some of the
quotes postgame, some of the experiences that you had with fans,
maybe in enemy territory, heading up to Rice Echel Stadium
or welcoming them into Lavelle Edwards Stadium.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that out there is a question of
the day. I have a favorite memory. Mine's last year?
Why was it last year? Last year?
Speaker 4: The kiel and Mary and kickoff return? Oh, that was
the wonderful flag. Thank you for holding you know, I
love holds loving DB's get those hands in there and
pulled down and say I didn't touch him and then
the little tongue in cheek.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: The most important thing to balance to the silos is
my daughter was born two days before. That's the most
important thing. So Dreuzy, thank you for giving Byu the
strength and will Farren to walk it off and take
it home.
Speaker 2: For Byu.
Speaker 3: There's insanity that has occurred. And you guys are too
young maybe to remember. But in twenty ten, right essentially
the last year that Byu was in the Mountain West Conference,
Utah was in the Mountain West Conference. There is controversy
even then once the tables began to turn in favor
of the University of Utah. Like Brandon Bradley picks off
a pass, his knees down after the pass and then
he fumbles, but because of the the camera angles, because
of the piss poor quality of the Mountain Network, you
could not get it was called the fumble on the field.
But it is obvious even on the nineteen.
Speaker 2: Eighty five.
Speaker 3: Like style camera, the low def that was supposedly high
definition camera that was utilized, it was obvious that his
knee was down, but they couldn't get conclusive evidence of it.
Burton or Byu ends up driving down the field. They're
gonna kick a field goal and Burton comes off the edge.
We don't block him, and he blocks a field goal
and they win the game. Twenty twelve, Riley Nelson has
a broken back. He's playing in this game, and somehow,
some way BYU still in it. They drive down for
a game winning, game tying field goal.
Speaker 2: They miss the first.
Speaker 3: The crowd just tramples onto the foot ball field.
Speaker 2: A flag is called.
Speaker 3: We get to redo it, not once, not twice, but
three times. And b why you missed all of them?
All the field guys? Insane? Insane. That was kind of
a bit of a chaotis chaotic pandemonium type of moment
for the University of Utah. There's been some crazy moments
in this in the even in the past. Uh and uh,
we want to highlight them all.
Speaker 4: Sore moment Saturday. Then that's got me thinking, now.
Speaker 2: What's going to be the crazy moments? I don't know, Well,
you never know, you never know. I know that's the
crazy part.
Speaker 3: Of twenty sixteen. B Yu was like plus five in
turnover margin. Somehow lost that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I remember that one.
Speaker 3: I mean just insane and you lost on a two
point taste.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's always something crazy. How about last year?
Speaker 3: Uh, the Mark Harlan chaos h that was the crazy game.
Speaker 2: Still going on crazy walking, This is insane.
Speaker 3: I mean, like you you can never predict what's going
to happen in this game.
Speaker 4: I guess Tom Homo will get on the field somehow
now that he's retired.
Speaker 2: He's a fan. I don't know about that. That was
a Tuggati gouse all joke. Tom's way too classy.
Speaker 3: But check out the rest of our ESPN the fan
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We'll welcome to Jonathan Tabernari, former BYU great basketball player,
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at three thirty Conto Town of Vasa BYU defensive tackle
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Kalani Shataki address the media yesterday. Let's get into what
he had to say about Rivalry Week.
Speaker 2: This was his opening statement game week.
Speaker 6: I'm we're excited. I had a good weekend and then
a great victory against a well motivated Arizona team, and
I had to take a double overtime game, but I
thought it was good for our team, good for the program,
and you know, celebrated that had fun. And our focus
is onto our next opponent, which is our arrival. And uh,
this is a Rivalry week homecoming. It's gonna be a
lot of fun, you know. So we're excited about the matchup.
And UH, there's all obviously there's a lot of connections
between uh B y U and in Utah, and so,
uh that'll be another fun part of it. But that's
no different than what you see in in a in
a household here in the state. And uh there will
be people cheering for their team and that's what makes
the rivalry so much fun, and it makes it. Like
I said before, I've said this last year that it
makes a lot of sense we're in the Big Twelve together.
It just makes sense that we should be in the
same conference, and we should do this every year. So
I'm excited about the matchup. UH watching watching Utah and
film really talented team UH with with with so many
different weapons, and that's in all three phases.
Speaker 1: They can well coached.
Speaker 6: And when you know you're going up against Kyle Whittingham
and his staff, the players canna be well coached. They'll
be tough, and they'll be physical. So it's gonna be
a great matchup and we're looking forward to the challenge
this weekend.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take it.
Speaker 6: It's taking our best focus and has every bit of
our attention. So we're excited about the prep that we
can do today. And you know, recognize the town that
they have there and have a lot of respect for
the program and their fans and you know, my personal
connection to them, and we have a lot of that
here and they have a lot of that there, So
it'll make it make it really really fun. And I'm
excited to see these guys play on the field in
Leaveledwar stadium. Is good to have the game at home
this year, and I'm looking forward to it and it's
gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Kalani Satake, he's two and four in the rivalry game
as the head coach of BYU, and three of those losses, gentlemen,
okay are one score losses, one point, six points and
a points. So it's always been competitive. The largest margin
loss was actually in twenty nineteen thirty to twelve, and you.
Speaker 2: Can make it. I remember that one.
Speaker 3: You can make an argument right like in the twenty
and sixteen game probably should have bounced BYU's ways with
the turnover margin. In twenty eighteen, BYU was up big
in the first half and then injuries occurred on both
offensive key injuries offensively and defensively, and BYU screwed the Poots.
That was the Jason Shelley game, coming in as the
backup quarterback essentially and leading the Utes to Glorian victory
at Rice Echels Stadium. So find it interesting like this
has been very It's always been competitive, always been competitive,
but Kilani's rivalry games have been even more competitive, I
would say in the modern era.
Speaker 2: So let's get to number two.
Speaker 3: In what ways has Kyle Whittingham influenced your development?
Speaker 2: Kilani?
Speaker 1: In so many ways?
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean I worked ten years with him, uh,
you know, learned a lot from him and and and
watched him grow in the industry and in his position.
Speaker 1: I watched him uh and and saw the.
Speaker 6: Transition that he made from going to a coordinator to
a head coach, and then how he handled going into
the the from the Mountain West to the Pac twelve.
Speaker 1: And I had a front row seat to all of it.
Speaker 6: And so uh, you know, there's a lot of things
that that he has helped me with uh as a
coach and the profession, and I know that he had
a huge impact and in in our on our staff
too with a bunch of guys that are here coaching.
So you know, I always have a lot of love
and admiration for for Kyle uh mentioned he's a mentor
of mine. And but it's also the connection I've had
to to that university and and and I was there
for a decade, so I was able to make some
unbelievable friends that I consider family and and and meet
some wonderful people. And so that's what makes it fun,
you know, and uh, you know, I hope hopefully uh
go through it and people can understand where I come
from and why I have so much respect for them.
And I think our fans here understand that. And you know,
so there's always been there will always be a connection there.
And then I'm glad that other people are experience it themselves.
I mean, there's coaches that are there that that uh,
that I'm close to and and that I consider close family,
and so it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Man, this is how it works.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's you know, I have a niece
that's in that's in their their color guard that that
performs there, and I have a lot of family that
have that I've graduated from there, so uh, and I'm
no different than a lot of people uh in the state.
And so that's it's gonna be a fun rivalry game
and and uh, you know, we're looking forward to the matchup.
But yeah, there's a lot of things that Kyle's helped
me with and and that I value from him as
a mentor, and then even connections to coach McBride and
and others that have been there. So it's it's been
it's been really cool for.
Speaker 3: Me the contrast, and granted Kyle would he have sid
some of nice things about killone as well, but you
can hear the effusive praise coming from Kilane, how he elaborates,
how he pontificates, how he goes into further detail about
how impactful his experience has been at the University of
Utah under Kyle Whittingham, and even to this day, he
has intrinsic fibers connectivity to that university that he's grateful for.
Speaker 5: The number one thing that I took away from listening
to Kilanie Sataki's media availability yesterday is that this is
truly a rivalry that he loves and enjoys. And I
wish that we could all enjoy the rivalry the way
that Kilani does. And it's I don't even think he
says this because he knows he has to get through
it and because it's part of it, but he'd rather
not do it, Like I truly believe that he enjoys
this rivalry, which honestly is more than I can say
for me. Not that I don't enjoy the rivalry, but
it just feels like there's so much hate and anger
and social media and angst and just anger that comes
with it, that part of me is like, is.
Speaker 2: It really worth all of it?
Speaker 5: But what I love is that Kilanie's because he's a
such a peacemaker and because he's such an optimist, he's
able to kind of put his blinders up and not
worry about all the extra stuff and see the rivalry
for what it is, which is a fun game in
state between a lot of families who have lots of
people on both sides, and it's truly something to be enjoyed,
and it's something that I'm envious of and that I'd
like to get more on board with because again, like
this Rivalry Week just gives me so much angst because
people are so mean and angry on social media. So
I really applaud Kilani for finding his way to love
and appreciate this week in this event, and I pray
that honestly we can all treat the rivalry the way
that Klanie does, because I think it's the best way
to look at it.
Speaker 3: Indeed, Klannie embodies, you know, what we should all be
and how we should all view the rivaly. Now most
of us are, we're fallen men, and Klonie is an
elevated person and so we tend to fall prey to
the natural man and create enmity between our neighbors up
on the hill. And that's okay during rivalry week, yes,
but we can repent later, right, That's.
Speaker 4: What our repents on Sunday and give Austin Crosley a
hug on Sunday, but not this week?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: What can you say about Aaron Roderick and how he's
developed Bear and he's got his ties to U Tod?
Does this game mean more to him?
Speaker 6: I trust Arod and I think one of the most
difficult positions in by football is to be the OC.
It comes with a lot of criticism, but I don't
know if it comes with enough praise. And so the
things that has been able to do when when everybody
was so concerned about a true freshman leading our team,
I think everyone should give him a lot of credit
for what he's been able to get done with Bear,
and Bear himself deserves that too. And but with all
that said and done, man, I want to keep them humble.
Our goals to stay humble and stay hungry. And in
order to do that, you have to keep working, You
have to keep trying to get better. So there's a
lot of room for improvement, and that's where all of
us not just bear himself, but also for a Rod
myself as a head coach and Jay Hills decordinator, K
Pop is a special teams coordinator.
Speaker 1: All that goes around.
Speaker 6: And then you know, looking at at the rivalry week,
it's it is.
Speaker 1: What it is. I mean, it usually comes at the
end of the year.
Speaker 6: We're all used to that, but this is a this
is a fun game, and so the fact that there's
connections and that we're familiar with them, they're familiar with us,
it just makes it even more fun. I don't know
if if the attention is any different, because I think
we're all professionals. I think you look at at their side,
they're going to do the same thing when it's all
said and done that the guys on the field are
the ones that make the plays, and so we all
become fans when when they're out there playing the game
eleven on eleven. So I like to think that we're
all professional about It's not like we're we're thinking everything.
Speaker 1: We got into this one.
Speaker 6: That's what we do all the time as professionals in
our jobs, and this week, just like every other week,
but we know the implications and the attention that comes
to this game.
Speaker 3: They go, that's that statement is powerful. The most difficult
position as a coach is the OC. Is it agree
or disagree with that? Is it tougher to be the
OC at b YU or is it tough to be
the head coach?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: See, no doubt because when the offense doesn't move and
has been qb U, you could argue in that regard.
I think people are gonna, you know, blame that, and
BAU coordinators have been blamed from a long time.
Speaker 2: This is not just a rod. Let's not just act
like a Rod has been there. There have been other
OC's that were criticized.
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, because you think of the winning
history of Lavelle, you think of what Kilani has done
in those regards and how likable he is in his culture,
it's easier to blame a rod, Like if that two
point conversion it would not have happened. They blame a
Rod for the play call, but not for Kilanie for
being the one so aggressive to go for it. And
I bring up to that point and be very valid
in it right like you would escape go there and
rise like No, that woud be Klonie's fault. Now it
didn't happen, but I bring up a valid point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if if Kilanie chooses supersedes the feelings of like
the staff and says, hey, we're gonna go for it,
going for two.
Speaker 2: We're gonna lean on Bear. Here a Rod calls his play.
Speaker 3: It's not executed, maybe in the form and fashion it
should have been. Maybe there's a miss block, maybe someone
drops the pass. Maybe you know, you know, you fumble.
Whatever it is, it's not executed. A Rod may be
the one that they're roasting at the end of.
Speaker 4: And it's like, no, no, the guy agreed to go
for I mean, even the two point conversion, which you
have to go for in the second overtime chase is
open on the slant Bear makes it the the defender
just put his hands up like and.
Speaker 2: Still had a problem with that.
Speaker 5: My father inlaw the next morning is like, I can't
believe they ran that. I'm like, what was wrong with
the play? They got down the line and he was open.
That is not a Rod's fault. What is he supposed
to do? Block the guy down and call the play?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you when you're having those debates with French family members,
like does it get heated?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it does. I I I know what I mean,
I lose my patience. It's just it's so bad.
Speaker 4: I'm not a peacemaker and I apologize or on Sundays,
I just I get so frustrated because I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, so, what's wrong with that call? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I agree, what's wrong with that? Here's the difference though,
Like we do this for a living. We see everything,
we break down everything, and like while we are fans
of the team, like we're not fans, like we see
things in its objectivity and we have I think a
little bit more information true, and so at least for me,
Like it doesn't really get that heated for me because
I don't blame them.
Speaker 2: That's how they are.
Speaker 5: They're not as connected, and so I don't know, it
doesn't really bug me that much because that's I think
that's kind of how fans are supposed to be. Unfortunately,
it sometimes comes to the expensive a rod, but from
a general sense, like that's just part of being a fan,
is getting rowdy.
Speaker 2: This show was built.
Speaker 3: The original thesis of this show, by the way, was
to educate the fans to be more wise more grounded,
less emotional, more educated, so that they knew how it
was being cooked in the kitchen and have a little
bit more perspective on the realities.
Speaker 2: Of college football. I like that, right that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm telling you, like bringing on former player
after former players like football, like try to give you
this comprehensive look at football terminology, you know, culture, organizational design.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that was like one of the.
Speaker 3: Kind of the baseline intents of the show when we
launched it, and so I hope it's done that.
Speaker 2: I think it has done that.
Speaker 3: I think we've created them a well rounded, like stoic,
objective fan base that's not like knee jerk reaction emotional
tyrant kicking and screaming in the aisle that wants some candy,
like you know what I mean. Like, I think we've
done that over the last decade plus. So shout out
to all of you listeners that have been with us,
you know, since the launch of this show back in
you know, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. All Right, we gotta
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in each of BYU's last three wins over Utah, why
did I choose this song?
Speaker 2: Give it Away?
Speaker 3: Byu has committed zero turnovers zero So you don't want
to give it away? Okay, you want you ta to
give it away. You're in the plus you know turnover
Mars and that helps. But when you don't give it away,
b Yu has committed when always committed zero turnovers, you're
winning the rivalry game. You're winning the Holy war. It's
a key to get the dub under the lights of level.
Now we're gonna get to some sound from Klane and
discuss the intensity of the rivalry game, et cetera. But like,
what's the chances that BYU doesn't turn the ball over
in the rivalry game? Last two weeks, BYU has been
in the negative as it pertains.
Speaker 2: To turn over March. They've been giving up the football
more than.
Speaker 3: They've been taking it away versus Colorado and U of A,
and somehow, some way they found a way to win.
I don't know if you can do that versus the
University of Utah. I don't want to play with with
those odds, those probabilities. I'm not a gambling man. I
don't go to Vegas and bet. I just don't do that,
not even on the sports book. Learn my lesson early
in life. I don't gamble. So don't want to turn
the ball away, turn the ball over, don't want to
give it away. If you're a BYU Cougar football player
and Beart Bachmeier as a true freshman's been pretty gosh
day good throughout the entire of the season. Last couple
of games, though, as the competition has elevated, the contact
has been elevated, the physicality has been elevated, the inclement
weather has also impacted him.
Speaker 2: He has not been as good.
Speaker 3: Is that a big concern for you, you guys heading
into the rivalry game. This is something Bear has never
experienced before. It's a different game, it's a different atmosphere.
He is a stoic, he is unemotional. He has gone
through a little bit of a refining fire the last
two weeks. Is he built for the rivalry? Do you
think Jans one hundred percent?
Speaker 4: The reason why I said, look at the last two
weeks to be able to turn the football over like
that at a high level, and let's not get the
Westernia game confused, that was still a high level. Like
two is the problem. Two of them came from him.
Interception again didn't hurt you because it was so far
down the field. The pitch pass did you haven't fun
with that play in two to three years. But they
got points off of it. They got points off your turnovers.
You do that against the University of Utah, they're gonna
beat you by a score if not too so. And
I think that's maybe what Vegas is banking on in
that regard. And then Arizona you go on the road.
But here's the thing, Ben, He's got to be duo
some point to not have those mistakes. He's gonna see
on tape the good defensive players that Utah has, his moxie,
his clib is demeanor, he's gonna be locked in. And
then with others around him like LJ with Bruce Mitchell
who played in this game, Keano ton of Aust on
the opposite side, he's got team that's gonna be like, hey,
you really can't do this.
Speaker 2: He's got a coaching staff. If you give.
Speaker 4: Morgan Scalley's defense the ball, then Jason Beck's offense is
gonna go score. They can do that in their regard.
You also are gonna understand the tendencies of that. Morgan
Scalley likes to bring pressure they so he knows he's
gonna know what exactly he's gonna get. And I believe
that Bear's gonna take care of the football. Now here's
the biggest concern. I'm not concerned about I'm throwing picks.
I think he's gonna have that. I'm more concerned about
fumbles in this game because they like to run him.
Speaker 2: Utah wants to hit.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a physical game in the Arizona game,
if you go back and look at the film, Bear's
got two hends on.
Speaker 2: The ball like this Ben. They just do a good
job of punching it out.
Speaker 4: So I'm more worried about ball security in the run
game from him and LJ all the running backs in
their regard. So he's gonna have to take care of
the football. I believe he will do it, but I'm
more concerned about the fumbles in the running game than
I am the pass game.
Speaker 2: Necessarily. Let's get to this sound.
Speaker 3: Kalani Shataki address the media yesterday and he answered this question.
The intensity of the robbery game has gone up and
down is b way and Utah has changed conferences. Do
you see it ramping up again now that it's in
a conference once again?
Speaker 6: I think the competition has always been there and the
intensity can be there. There's nothing wrong with the intensity
being there. I just me personally, I would like to
see it be like with tons of respect. You know,
whether we want to admit it or not, we actually
need each other. You know, this is a great rivalry
when we when we have each other on the schedule,
and regardless of the outcome this weekend, I mean, there's
a lot of different things that can happen that that
we'll probably need each other's help. And so I don't
think there's a I've said it before that you know,
wishing bad things.
Speaker 1: On others is not good for the soul.
Speaker 6: And I'm not trying to tell fans how to do it,
but it's got to be a lot more fun when
you can actually have and talk about the respect that
you have for each other and that that there is
connection from both sides. I mean you just look at
the at the coaching staff and on both sides you
see the impact on both that both schools have on
each other. I mean, this is that's just the type
of rivalry that it is. And and now the transfer portal,
there's players that we have here that there were there,
and there's players that we had had that they had
there that are here now. So and and honestly, I
have a lot of love and respect for everyone that's involved,
and so uh, it's an honor for me to be
the coach here and to be part of this this game.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 6: It would be a lot more fun if we can
have just value what and there's you could be a
fan and I'm just telling you it's so much more
fun be a fan cheering for your team rather than
cheering against the others.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 6: That's that's how I view it. But fans gonna do
however they want. I'm just telling them, just try it, man.
It's a lot of fun when you when you cheer
your team on and and you show a lot of
respect for the for the opposing team. It's it's a
different way to do it, and it's a lot more
more more fun and enjoy.
Speaker 3: Kalana given some wise words to all of us, But
let's talk about the petty nature of maybe some Utah
fans here for a moment, I thought it was interesting.
It is an interesting study, a case study, if you will.
There was a video that's gone viral Utah fans during
their game at Rice Ecle Stadium versus versus ASU. They're
in their ponchos. Maybe the game's getting a little bit boring.
Utah's up big, and every every fan in the stands
has their smartphone out streaming the BYU and U of
a game. Lockdown, eyes on their opponent. Are they scouting?
Maybe they have their game locked up, locked up. They
like no reason to watch anymore. They know they're gonna
get that down. Now they're reverting to the scouting reboard.
Is BYU going to be undefeated going into this game?
What will that mean?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I want to believe that Utah fans are that in
depth calculated, that you know, strategic. They want to get
a little scouted report on the on the BYU Cougars.
No doubt it's the following week's game, it's the rivalry
game coming up. Or is it just that they do
this every single game and it's a comparative culture and
it's a petty culture.
Speaker 4: I think there's both, maybe a little bit of ball.
I think there is comparative culture.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I have a certain friend that's a Utah fan says, well,
we beat West Virginia by this, and I said, I
didn't show up and the one lost column. He's like, oh,
both wins exactly. So you're comparing trying to compare wins.
It was like, if you want to compare wins, well
you lost to Texas Tech, Well what if we beat
you guys?
Speaker 2: It's like, well, this is not a week.
Speaker 4: First of all, I don't do wease I'm in the media,
but you can feel that way. But if Utah beats
b YU and then BA beats Texas Tech. What does
that mean he lost the Texas Tech. You don't need
That's the problem is you get comparative. Don't be comparative.
Just say, look, you're six and zero. Our team might
have to deliver you that first TEL of the season.
I think that's okay to be competitive in that nature.
But there is a comparative and the scouting of both
because it doesn't mean, well, if they beat b YU
that's their biggest one of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, top fifteen win.
Speaker 4: They just beat Arizona, which would be another top twenty
five one, so they're going to jump and be a
top fifteen team.
Speaker 2: So I think it's both.
Speaker 3: Let's get our scouting report on Devin Dad here, the
quarterback for the University of Utah. How special is Devin
and what do you see from him?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Super talented and he's tough man.
Speaker 6: He's he has great vision and that's in the passing
game and in the running game.
Speaker 1: He's an efficient player.
Speaker 6: So when you look at it the stats, I mean
he knows where to go with the ball and he's
well coached. I think Jason Beck's done a great job
tutoring him, mentoring him, and there's a reason why they
brought him, you know, with him, and so I think
he looks really comfortable out there and whatever you need
to do, whatever you need him to do, he's willing
to do it and super tough. But I think a
lot of attention will go to his legs because he
can run, but he can throw too, and I like
like this overall presence on the field. Definitely respect what
he does, and he's gonna be dangerous, you know. It's
it's he's got our attention. I know, Uh, Coach Hill
and the rest of the coaches are trying to find
ways to to you know, try to try to see
if we can disrupt his timing and disrupt everything we
can that he can do positively on the field, but
that's easier said than done. He's a really good player,
he's tough. And then you compliment that with with the
with the really talented old line, very athletic and tough,
and then tight ends that can block receivers, that can
catch the ball, all that stuff they get. They got
a really good team on offense. And then you already
know how I feel about the defense and defense coordinatord
with Morgan Scalle. He's a good friend of mine. And
all the coaches that are there that I know really well,
Lewis Powell and all them, those are my Those are
my guys, you know. But this is when it comes
down to it. We're not the ones playing the game.
We had our moments already. Work wor Old has beens.
There never was. But it's kind of fun to see
these young guys get after it. And I'm a little
jealous there they're in the Big twelve and they get
to do this.
Speaker 2: We were.
Speaker 6: We were in the whack and the mountain way that
when we got to do it. So this is a
really cool upgrade for the for the rivalry game.
Speaker 2: I'm jealous.
Speaker 3: I mean I got to be a part of some
great rivalry games, no doubt, and I'm undefeated against the youths.
So yeah, no, I am not ready. But you know,
it's a it's it's a great game. It's a great
rivalry game. It's it's one of the best in college football.
No's answer butts about it, and and Klanie recognizes that,
and that's why he elaborates so intentionally about the special
nature of this Ribery game, and he gives a lot
of love to to Devin Dad Pier as well. My question,
you guys, is this, who's a better quarterback statistically? Who's
a better quarterback objectively? Devindad Pier or Bear Bachmeyer? And
I look, we maybe have blue goggles here, but who
would you rather trot out onto your to be your
the leader of your football team. If you evaluate the
first six games of the season, what do you got, Ronnie?
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're gonna say based off of evaluating
who I would have to go with, the people gonna
think it's biased. But Bear, look how he's bounced back
from turnovers. I haven't seen Devin do that necessarily yet
against a good football team in a high pressure situation.
The one tough game that he played was Texas Tech,
and he wet the bed. Sorry not text Tech is
the best team in the commerce, but he's still wet
the bed. Bear against a good Arizona defense, which is
arguably the best secondary would takeaways, you can argue that
what happened.
Speaker 2: He went out there and he's tied. Think you got a.
Speaker 4: Feel going in the entire the game up and then
overtime put the game away. Right, So I'm bringing up
objective data. You're asking me based on the ejected data,
then I'm gonna go Bear. West Virginia turns it over
at home, so I still goes down next play mentality Stanford,
you know, doesn't see certain fourth downs comes back out
like all of that matters being if you're taking into
account in that regard.
Speaker 2: So I think Bear has been faced.
Speaker 4: With a little bit more adversity than Devin has, So
I'll go with Bear on that. But if you're really
asking me from a statistical standpoint, I think I'm gonna
say they're both probably the same in that regard. Devon's
in a new conference facing you know, elite talent for
the first time, not saying that when he was a
you know, at his last school, it wasn't. But the
Big twelve is a different beast, and then Bear is
a true freshman. So I think they're both right on part.
But if you're asking me to pick splitting hairs, I
think Bear has a slight aedge in that regard. I
think he's faced a little bit more adversity than Devin has.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 2: Don't bring up, oh, what Devon's been injured?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, we're talking about playing the game, not something
a ding that you got in practice or a game.
And even with the Bear has still been able to overcome.
I think his size and that run ability is something
that separates him from Devn just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I mean, dam Pier's good running. I'm
not gonna do that. He's good. I think Bear's a
little bit better because of his size, so he can
take hits that Devin can.
Speaker 3: Damp Here is three hundred seventy eight yards on the
ground five point eight yards per carry, five rushing touchdowns,
comparative to Bachmeier at two ninety five four point two
yards per carry, seven rushing touchdowns, a long run of sixteen,
and Dan Pierre.
Speaker 2: Is twenty four.
Speaker 3: From a passing standpoint, damp Pierre completes a higher rate
seventy one point five percent, has thrown for one and
thirty one yards his yards per temp though at six
point nine uh eleven touchdowns, three interceptions, a QB rating
of one forty seven point five h and he's been
sacked three times on the inverse. Bachmeyer sixty three point
two percent completion percentage one and twenty yards through the
air eight point five yards Perds have eight touchdowns through
the year, three interceptions, and a QB rating of one
forty eight point five, so slightly better.
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, said the argument. They're asking me that.
That's why I said that they're pretty much the same. Well,
that's why I brought that out and said if you're
and I brought up the adversity department, because again I'm
bringing up a valid data point. Devin Dampier has also
played Texas Tech, though, which I think is bad.
Speaker 4: But anywhen I understand that, but adverse, I understand that,
but Texas Tech does not have the best secondary of
takeaway in the ball that Arizona did anyone on the road.
You were at home and you lost that game. I
understand that. But and this is we really won't know.
So they played Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: But if Bear would to go on the road and
play well at Texas Tech and or win that game,
then the conversations put to bed. We won't really know
it to that point.
Speaker 4: But I still think Bear has faced a little bit
more adversity than Devin has in that regard.
Speaker 2: I'm still going to stay they're the same, but just.
Speaker 5: The football twice through the air in that Arizona game
exactly that.
Speaker 2: But and then what did he do and any bounce back,
but we'd be ripping him in favor.
Speaker 5: You're saying Arizona has a difficult secondary as to pass
against and as a better defensive spot. My pushback is
Bear didn't really throw the ball that much against Arizona.
In fact, he was twelve of twenty five. I believe,
And again I love Bear Backmer. I'm not trying to
say Arizona they won with the run game in that regard, No,
I agree. I'm just saying that your point is Arizona
had a better pass defense. And the pushback is, yes,
but Bear didn't really pass now he didn't have to,
and he was incredible with his legs. I'm just saying
I think Devin Dampier's adversity, with what he's played at
this point in the season, I think is just as
good now. I think where you hang your hat is
Devin's been doing it for longer. Bear has a higher
upside because of the size. In fact, I asked chat GBT.
I said, Chat GBT, who's better Bear Bachmeyer or Devin Dampier.
The first thing they said is this is a totally
unfair question. The answer depends on how much weight you
put on experience versus upside. The biggest con chat GBT
gives that Devin Dampier is he's just too small. But
the biggest con they give Bear Backmeyer is that he
just doesn't have that much of a sample size yet.
But they do say bear Backmeer has a higher upside
and could surpass expectations in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: I think Bear's a bigger red zone threat than Devin is.
Speaker 4: And uh and that's because of the size, right, and
the nature of that.
Speaker 5: That's also though, like not disrespect Devin, even though he's
not tall, he's compact two five almost two ten, twenty
pounds less than Bear, and Bear has three four more inches.
Speaker 2: So like, Devin is a real threat.
Speaker 5: And this comes from a guy who I had almost
little to no faith in Devin damp Here coming into
the season because every Utah fans argument was, oh, well,
he was the Mountain West Conference Player of the year. Yeah,
that's and he threw as many touchdowns as he did interceptions.
If that's your Mountain West Conference Player of the year,
you must not have that many guys who were competing
for that Award and I stand by that take. However,
using that take to then say he won't be that
good this year, I don't think was fully correct on
my behalf, because I do think Devin has improved from
what he was as a quarterback last year. Now it
helps when you have first round draft pick NFL tackles. Yeah,
but absolutely, but has still been good and we know
in that Texas Tech game.
Speaker 2: He wasn't fully healthy. We'll see what he looks like.
Speaker 5: He's gonna get the probably the second third best defense
in the Big Twelve when he goes to Lavelle Edward
City in this and again it's.
Speaker 2: On the road.
Speaker 4: And this is what I mean by I'm saying bear
Bear has had to face then Reginia GA. You could
knock it up to the Texas Tech because they both
turned the ball over at home and it's not the
same team. I know that, But I just think Barris
had to go to Colorado Arizona. I think he's a
little bit more fit, if based on having dealt with
these things than Devin. Just now, in the power conference
of this big and this magnitude of the robber game,
they're both gonna have their moments like if they both
turn over the ball in this game, I would not
be surprised. Honestly, it's gonna be their first time feeling
these emotions. I just think Bear is more quick from
what we've seen and what he's had to deal with.
Like he went on the road against West Virginia, right
and then you had to buy You played Asu, played
Texas Tech. Bear had to go to Colorado, deal with
that environment, go to Arizona.
Speaker 2: Then you come back to your home crowd.
Speaker 4: I think that gives you a little bit more confident
slightly then it would Devin. They're both going to be
extremely confident. I just think Bears had to face that
and he's got more in gritty wins than Devin's had
the opportunity to.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna see on Saturday. We should probably take
a brief time out. But that was a question Slash
Poll of the Day. Chime in on it.
Speaker 3: Want to hear from you Bear Bachmeyer versus Devin damp Here,
who's better?
Speaker 4: Uh?
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