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ready for the Holy War. It's one of my favorite weeks.

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It's the most wonderful time of the year. Basketball season

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upon us BYU football six and zero two consecutive years.

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Speaker 2: It has never been done.

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Speaker 3: Their top twenty five and they get to beat they

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get to play. They have an opportunity to beat the

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University of Utah at home. Kyle Whittingham could be in

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his last year. You could send Kyle Whittingham home with

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three consecutive losses, ushering him and pushing him into.

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Speaker 2: Retirement.

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Speaker 3: And how glorious would that be if you're a BYU fan,

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How glorious would that be to have the tables turned

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in the modern era all of sudden because BYU has

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a power for conference affiliation, All of a sudden they

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have a few more resources. All the sudden nil and

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Transfer portal has allowed BYU to booy up their program.

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And look how the stories are flipping. And it's a

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great opportunity. Can't wait to see what happens. Crazy thing

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is BYU's nodding not even a favorite in this game.

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Octupper fourteenth edition of Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in, co host, host, producer, executive producer. Uh the One,

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the Only, Ronald, the three Man Weaver. On a Holy

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War Tuesday, Ronnie, howy you.

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Speaker 2: Living living good? Happy rivalry Week?

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Speaker 4: To everybody, stay off of Twitter, Be peacemakers, be nice.

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In the words of the former leader of the church,

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there's a new leader of the church, but be peacemakers.

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Speaker 2: Those messages will still be echoed.

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Speaker 4: You can still love your brother as Keanusanovasa does, but

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you can still smash them between the lines and picked

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them up in.

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Speaker 2: A loving way as well. Yeah, President Dallan A.

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Speaker 3: Jokes was announced today as the eighteenth President of the

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Prophet and Prophet of the Church of the Christ latterday Saints,

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as well as others. The new leader of Global faith

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of more than seventeen million members has called President Henry

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b Iring and President D. Todd Christofferson to serve with

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him as first and second counselors in the first presidency

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of the church. President Oaks also announced that President Jeffrey R.

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Holland will be the President of the Korumer of the

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Twelve Apostles. Shout out to the LDS faith that has

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been attacked and has been attacked physically and verbally jousted

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Speaker 2: A public forum.

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Speaker 3: And it's crazy what's happened over the last month within

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Speaker 2: And hopefully we can keep the.

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Speaker 3: Faith as Killani stated, and keep on moving in a

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positive direction and that includes spiritually and temporarily. And we

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are talking temporal needs today. Temporal needs are a win

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at Lavelle Edwards Stadium to send Kyle Whittingham into retirement.

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B Ham hammertime show also in the house. Brett Hammer like,

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how we feeling right now about BYU's chances.

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Speaker 5: I was a little shocked that Byu is not a

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favorite here only because I do think this game is

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fifty to fifty, Like I think it's a coin flip.

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feeling that they are the winner.

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Speaker 2: But I figured since.

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Speaker 5: Byu was at home, they would have been favored based

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Speaker 2: And we know ron in.

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Speaker 5: Vegas you get three points for being at home, you do,

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which means they believe that if this is played on

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a neutral site, because what is it's three and a

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half points right now, two and a half points, three

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and a half year, so they think if this is

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a neutral site game, they think Utah is.

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Speaker 2: Winning by a touchdown touchdown, which I do not believe

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at all.

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Speaker 5: FPI has bou winning but only fifty one percent to

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forty nine percent. I am a little shocked that Byu

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is not a favorite just because this game is at home. However,

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there are no true home games because when it's forty

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minutes forty five minutes between each stadiums depending on how

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you drive, the illusion of a home game doesn't really exist.

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It's going to be packed with blue and red. We

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will see how this thing goes. I think b Yu

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gets the dub, but this is not gonna be an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I may put out today as a question today,

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like your favorite memory in the Holy War? You know,

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the there's been so many great games. There's been so

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many great experiences, and there's also been the bad experiences,

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the one that have maybe the wounds are still there

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even with a two game winning streak, some of the

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quotes postgame, some of the experiences that you had with fans,

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maybe in enemy territory, heading up to Rice Echel Stadium

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or welcoming them into Lavelle Edwards Stadium.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that out there is a question of

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the day. I have a favorite memory. Mine's last year?

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Why was it last year? Last year?

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Speaker 4: The kiel and Mary and kickoff return? Oh, that was

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the wonderful flag. Thank you for holding you know, I

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love holds loving DB's get those hands in there and

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pulled down and say I didn't touch him and then

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the little tongue in cheek.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: The most important thing to balance to the silos is

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my daughter was born two days before. That's the most

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important thing. So Dreuzy, thank you for giving Byu the

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strength and will Farren to walk it off and take

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it home.

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Speaker 2: For Byu.

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Speaker 3: There's insanity that has occurred. And you guys are too

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young maybe to remember. But in twenty ten, right essentially

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the last year that Byu was in the Mountain West Conference,

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Utah was in the Mountain West Conference. There is controversy

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even then once the tables began to turn in favor

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of the University of Utah. Like Brandon Bradley picks off

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a pass, his knees down after the pass and then

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he fumbles, but because of the the camera angles, because

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of the piss poor quality of the Mountain Network, you

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could not get it was called the fumble on the field.

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But it is obvious even on the nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Like style camera, the low def that was supposedly high

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definition camera that was utilized, it was obvious that his

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knee was down, but they couldn't get conclusive evidence of it.

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Burton or Byu ends up driving down the field. They're

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gonna kick a field goal and Burton comes off the edge.

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We don't block him, and he blocks a field goal

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and they win the game. Twenty twelve, Riley Nelson has

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a broken back. He's playing in this game, and somehow,

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some way BYU still in it. They drive down for

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a game winning, game tying field goal.

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Speaker 2: They miss the first.

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Speaker 3: The crowd just tramples onto the foot ball field.

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Speaker 2: A flag is called.

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Speaker 3: We get to redo it, not once, not twice, but

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three times. And b why you missed all of them?

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All the field guys? Insane? Insane. That was kind of

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a bit of a chaotis chaotic pandemonium type of moment

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for the University of Utah. There's been some crazy moments

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in this in the even in the past. Uh and uh,

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we want to highlight them all.

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Speaker 4: Sore moment Saturday. Then that's got me thinking, now.

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Speaker 2: What's going to be the crazy moments? I don't know, Well,

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you never know, you never know. I know that's the

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crazy part.

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Speaker 3: Of twenty sixteen. B Yu was like plus five in

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turnover margin. Somehow lost that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I remember that one.

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Speaker 3: I mean just insane and you lost on a two

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point taste.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's always something crazy. How about last year?

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Speaker 3: Uh, the Mark Harlan chaos h that was the crazy game.

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Speaker 2: Still going on crazy walking, This is insane.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like you you can never predict what's going

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Speaker 4: I guess Tom Homo will get on the field somehow

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now that he's retired.

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Speaker 2: He's a fan. I don't know about that. That was

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a Tuggati gouse all joke. Tom's way too classy.

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Speaker 3: But check out the rest of our ESPN the fan

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the by offensive lin me that recovered the football when

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Bear Bachmer fumbled it on the goal line and uh

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he somehow wrangled that thing in was able to fight

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for it tooth and nail and retrieve that fumbled football

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in order to give by you an opportunity to win

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that game, to tie that game. Crazy Tim Brown will

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Speaker 2: This was his opening statement game week.

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Speaker 6: I'm we're excited. I had a good weekend and then

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a great victory against a well motivated Arizona team, and

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lot of fun, you know. So we're excited about the matchup.

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And UH, there's all obviously there's a lot of connections

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between uh B y U and in Utah, and so,

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uh that'll be another fun part of it. But that's

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no different than what you see in in a in

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a household here in the state. And uh there will

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be people cheering for their team and that's what makes

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the rivalry so much fun, and it makes it. Like

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I said before, I've said this last year that it

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makes a lot of sense we're in the Big Twelve together.

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It just makes sense that we should be in the

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same conference, and we should do this every year. So

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I'm excited about the matchup. UH watching watching Utah and

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film really talented team UH with with with so many

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different weapons, and that's in all three phases.

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Speaker 1: They can well coached.

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Speaker 6: And when you know you're going up against Kyle Whittingham

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and his staff, the players canna be well coached. They'll

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be tough, and they'll be physical. So it's gonna be

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a great matchup and we're looking forward to the challenge

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this weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna take it.

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Speaker 6: It's taking our best focus and has every bit of

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our attention. So we're excited about the prep that we

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can do today. And you know, recognize the town that

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they have there and have a lot of respect for

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the program and their fans and you know, my personal

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connection to them, and we have a lot of that

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here and they have a lot of that there, So

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it'll make it make it really really fun. And I'm

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excited to see these guys play on the field in

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Leaveledwar stadium. Is good to have the game at home

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this year, and I'm looking forward to it and it's

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gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Kalani Satake, he's two and four in the rivalry game

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as the head coach of BYU, and three of those losses, gentlemen,

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okay are one score losses, one point, six points and

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a points. So it's always been competitive. The largest margin

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loss was actually in twenty nineteen thirty to twelve, and you.

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Speaker 2: Can make it. I remember that one.

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Speaker 3: You can make an argument right like in the twenty

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and sixteen game probably should have bounced BYU's ways with

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the turnover margin. In twenty eighteen, BYU was up big

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in the first half and then injuries occurred on both

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offensive key injuries offensively and defensively, and BYU screwed the Poots.

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That was the Jason Shelley game, coming in as the

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backup quarterback essentially and leading the Utes to Glorian victory

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at Rice Echels Stadium. So find it interesting like this

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has been very It's always been competitive, always been competitive,

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but Kilani's rivalry games have been even more competitive, I

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would say in the modern era.

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Speaker 2: So let's get to number two.

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Speaker 3: In what ways has Kyle Whittingham influenced your development?

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Speaker 2: Kilani?

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Speaker 1: In so many ways?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean I worked ten years with him, uh,

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you know, learned a lot from him and and and

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watched him grow in the industry and in his position.

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Speaker 1: I watched him uh and and saw the.

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Speaker 6: Transition that he made from going to a coordinator to

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a head coach, and then how he handled going into

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the the from the Mountain West to the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 1: And I had a front row seat to all of it.

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Speaker 6: And so uh, you know, there's a lot of things

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that that he has helped me with uh as a

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coach and the profession, and I know that he had

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a huge impact and in in our on our staff

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too with a bunch of guys that are here coaching.

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So you know, I always have a lot of love

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and admiration for for Kyle uh mentioned he's a mentor

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of mine. And but it's also the connection I've had

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to to that university and and and I was there

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for a decade, so I was able to make some

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unbelievable friends that I consider family and and and meet

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some wonderful people. And so that's what makes it fun,

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you know, and uh, you know, I hope hopefully uh

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go through it and people can understand where I come

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from and why I have so much respect for them.

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And I think our fans here understand that. And you know,

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so there's always been there will always be a connection there.

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And then I'm glad that other people are experience it themselves.

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I mean, there's coaches that are there that that uh,

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that I'm close to and and that I consider close family,

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and so it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Man, this is how it works.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's you know, I have a niece

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that's in that's in their their color guard that that

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performs there, and I have a lot of family that

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have that I've graduated from there, so uh, and I'm

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no different than a lot of people uh in the state.

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And so that's it's gonna be a fun rivalry game

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and and uh, you know, we're looking forward to the matchup.

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But yeah, there's a lot of things that Kyle's helped

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me with and and that I value from him as

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a mentor, and then even connections to coach McBride and

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and others that have been there. So it's it's been

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it's been really cool for.

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Speaker 3: Me the contrast, and granted Kyle would he have sid

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some of nice things about killone as well, but you

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can hear the effusive praise coming from Kilane, how he elaborates,

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how he pontificates, how he goes into further detail about

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how impactful his experience has been at the University of

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Utah under Kyle Whittingham, and even to this day, he

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has intrinsic fibers connectivity to that university that he's grateful for.

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Speaker 5: The number one thing that I took away from listening

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to Kilanie Sataki's media availability yesterday is that this is

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truly a rivalry that he loves and enjoys. And I

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wish that we could all enjoy the rivalry the way

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that Kilani does. And it's I don't even think he

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says this because he knows he has to get through

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it and because it's part of it, but he'd rather

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not do it, Like I truly believe that he enjoys

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this rivalry, which honestly is more than I can say

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for me. Not that I don't enjoy the rivalry, but

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it just feels like there's so much hate and anger

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and social media and angst and just anger that comes

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with it, that part of me is like, is.

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Speaker 2: It really worth all of it?

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Speaker 5: But what I love is that Kilanie's because he's a

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such a peacemaker and because he's such an optimist, he's

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able to kind of put his blinders up and not

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worry about all the extra stuff and see the rivalry

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for what it is, which is a fun game in

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state between a lot of families who have lots of

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people on both sides, and it's truly something to be enjoyed,

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and it's something that I'm envious of and that I'd

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like to get more on board with because again, like

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this Rivalry Week just gives me so much angst because

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people are so mean and angry on social media. So

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I really applaud Kilani for finding his way to love

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and appreciate this week in this event, and I pray

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that honestly we can all treat the rivalry the way

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that Klanie does, because I think it's the best way

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to look at it.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, Klannie embodies, you know, what we should all be

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and how we should all view the rivaly. Now most

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of us are, we're fallen men, and Klonie is an

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elevated person and so we tend to fall prey to

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the natural man and create enmity between our neighbors up

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on the hill. And that's okay during rivalry week, yes,

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but we can repent later, right, That's.

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Speaker 4: What our repents on Sunday and give Austin Crosley a

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hug on Sunday, but not this week?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: What can you say about Aaron Roderick and how he's

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developed Bear and he's got his ties to U Tod?

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Does this game mean more to him?

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Speaker 6: I trust Arod and I think one of the most

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difficult positions in by football is to be the OC.

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It comes with a lot of criticism, but I don't

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know if it comes with enough praise. And so the

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things that has been able to do when when everybody

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was so concerned about a true freshman leading our team,

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I think everyone should give him a lot of credit

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for what he's been able to get done with Bear,

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and Bear himself deserves that too. And but with all

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that said and done, man, I want to keep them humble.

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Our goals to stay humble and stay hungry. And in

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order to do that, you have to keep working, You

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have to keep trying to get better. So there's a

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lot of room for improvement, and that's where all of

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us not just bear himself, but also for a Rod

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myself as a head coach and Jay Hills decordinator, K

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Pop is a special teams coordinator.

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Speaker 1: All that goes around.

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Speaker 6: And then you know, looking at at the rivalry week,

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it's it is.

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Speaker 1: What it is. I mean, it usually comes at the

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end of the year.

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Speaker 6: We're all used to that, but this is a this

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is a fun game, and so the fact that there's

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connections and that we're familiar with them, they're familiar with us,

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it just makes it even more fun. I don't know

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if if the attention is any different, because I think

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we're all professionals. I think you look at at their side,

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they're going to do the same thing when it's all

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said and done that the guys on the field are

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the ones that make the plays, and so we all

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become fans when when they're out there playing the game

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eleven on eleven. So I like to think that we're

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all professional about It's not like we're we're thinking everything.

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Speaker 1: We got into this one.

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Speaker 6: That's what we do all the time as professionals in

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our jobs, and this week, just like every other week,

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but we know the implications and the attention that comes

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to this game.

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Speaker 3: They go, that's that statement is powerful. The most difficult

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position as a coach is the OC. Is it agree

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or disagree with that? Is it tougher to be the

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OC at b YU or is it tough to be

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the head coach?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: See, no doubt because when the offense doesn't move and

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has been qb U, you could argue in that regard.

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I think people are gonna, you know, blame that, and

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BAU coordinators have been blamed from a long time.

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Speaker 2: This is not just a rod. Let's not just act

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like a Rod has been there. There have been other

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OC's that were criticized.

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Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, because you think of the winning

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history of Lavelle, you think of what Kilani has done

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in those regards and how likable he is in his culture,

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it's easier to blame a rod, Like if that two

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point conversion it would not have happened. They blame a

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Rod for the play call, but not for Kilanie for

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being the one so aggressive to go for it. And

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I bring up to that point and be very valid

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in it right like you would escape go there and

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rise like No, that woud be Klonie's fault. Now it

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didn't happen, but I bring up a valid point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if if Kilanie chooses supersedes the feelings of like

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the staff and says, hey, we're gonna go for it,

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going for two.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna lean on Bear. Here a Rod calls his play.

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Speaker 3: It's not executed, maybe in the form and fashion it

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should have been. Maybe there's a miss block, maybe someone

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drops the pass. Maybe you know, you know, you fumble.

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Whatever it is, it's not executed. A Rod may be

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the one that they're roasting at the end of.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, no, no, the guy agreed to go

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for I mean, even the two point conversion, which you

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have to go for in the second overtime chase is

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open on the slant Bear makes it the the defender

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just put his hands up like and.

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Speaker 2: Still had a problem with that.

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Speaker 5: My father inlaw the next morning is like, I can't

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believe they ran that. I'm like, what was wrong with

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the play? They got down the line and he was open.

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That is not a Rod's fault. What is he supposed

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to do? Block the guy down and call the play?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Do you when you're having those debates with French family members,

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like does it get heated?

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it does. I I I know what I mean,

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I lose my patience. It's just it's so bad.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a peacemaker and I apologize or on Sundays,

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I just I get so frustrated because I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, so, what's wrong with that call? Yeah?

476
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 5: I agree, what's wrong with that? Here's the difference though,

477
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:28,079
Like we do this for a living. We see everything,

478
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,839
we break down everything, and like while we are fans

479
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,599
of the team, like we're not fans, like we see

480
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,519
things in its objectivity and we have I think a

481
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:40,720
little bit more information true, and so at least for me,

482
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,359
Like it doesn't really get that heated for me because

483
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,359
I don't blame them.

484
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: That's how they are.

485
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 5: They're not as connected, and so I don't know, it

486
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,440
doesn't really bug me that much because that's I think

487
00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:56,440
that's kind of how fans are supposed to be. Unfortunately,

488
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,519
it sometimes comes to the expensive a rod, but from

489
00:24:58,519 --> 00:25:00,960
a general sense, like that's just part of being a fan,

490
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:02,799
is getting rowdy.

491
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,559
Speaker 2: This show was built.

492
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,559
Speaker 3: The original thesis of this show, by the way, was

493
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:15,119
to educate the fans to be more wise more grounded,

494
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,440
less emotional, more educated, so that they knew how it

495
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:22,519
was being cooked in the kitchen and have a little

496
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:27,160
bit more perspective on the realities.

497
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,079
Speaker 2: Of college football. I like that, right that.

498
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm telling you, like bringing on former player

499
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,920
after former players like football, like try to give you

500
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:43,400
this comprehensive look at football terminology, you know, culture, organizational design.

501
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,799
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that was like one of the.

502
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: Kind of the baseline intents of the show when we

503
00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:55,359
launched it, and so I hope it's done that.

504
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: I think it has done that.

505
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: I think we've created them a well rounded, like stoic,

506
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:06,880
objective fan base that's not like knee jerk reaction emotional

507
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,960
tyrant kicking and screaming in the aisle that wants some candy,

508
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,680
like you know what I mean. Like, I think we've

509
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:17,079
done that over the last decade plus. So shout out

510
00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:18,799
to all of you listeners that have been with us,

511
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,359
you know, since the launch of this show back in

512
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you know, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. All Right, we gotta

513
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go break, right, we do. All right, We're gonna go

514
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to break, guys. That's your nitty gritty. We'll get into

515
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more sound from Kilani coming up here shortly. Don't miss it,

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Speaker 2: The Twine Lennon's of Brigham is uh.

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Speaker 3: They're always found at Royal Army Brown dot com. So

548
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in each of BYU's last three wins over Utah, why

549
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did I choose this song?

550
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: Give it Away?

551
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: Byu has committed zero turnovers zero So you don't want

552
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,240
to give it away? Okay, you want you ta to

553
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,680
give it away. You're in the plus you know turnover

554
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:34,039
Mars and that helps. But when you don't give it away,

555
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,079
b Yu has committed when always committed zero turnovers, you're

556
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:42,079
winning the rivalry game. You're winning the Holy war. It's

557
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:46,480
a key to get the dub under the lights of level.

558
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,920
Now we're gonna get to some sound from Klane and

559
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:54,240
discuss the intensity of the rivalry game, et cetera. But like,

560
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:58,160
what's the chances that BYU doesn't turn the ball over

561
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,960
in the rivalry game? Last two weeks, BYU has been

562
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,319
in the negative as it pertains.

563
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: To turn over March. They've been giving up the football

564
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:07,480
more than.

565
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: They've been taking it away versus Colorado and U of A,

566
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:13,799
and somehow, some way they found a way to win.

567
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,359
I don't know if you can do that versus the

568
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,680
University of Utah. I don't want to play with with

569
00:29:20,839 --> 00:29:24,079
those odds, those probabilities. I'm not a gambling man. I

570
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,799
don't go to Vegas and bet. I just don't do that,

571
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,599
not even on the sports book. Learn my lesson early

572
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,119
in life. I don't gamble. So don't want to turn

573
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,200
the ball away, turn the ball over, don't want to

574
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,079
give it away. If you're a BYU Cougar football player

575
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:42,440
and Beart Bachmeier as a true freshman's been pretty gosh

576
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,279
day good throughout the entire of the season. Last couple

577
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:49,920
of games, though, as the competition has elevated, the contact

578
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,759
has been elevated, the physicality has been elevated, the inclement

579
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:56,440
weather has also impacted him.

580
00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: He has not been as good.

581
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,759
Speaker 3: Is that a big concern for you, you guys heading

582
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,599
into the rivalry game. This is something Bear has never

583
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,319
experienced before. It's a different game, it's a different atmosphere.

584
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,960
He is a stoic, he is unemotional. He has gone

585
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,799
through a little bit of a refining fire the last

586
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:18,000
two weeks. Is he built for the rivalry? Do you

587
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:19,240
think Jans one hundred percent?

588
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 4: The reason why I said, look at the last two

589
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:23,200
weeks to be able to turn the football over like

590
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:25,039
that at a high level, and let's not get the

591
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,839
Westernia game confused, that was still a high level. Like

592
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880
two is the problem. Two of them came from him.

593
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,240
Interception again didn't hurt you because it was so far

594
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,960
down the field. The pitch pass did you haven't fun

595
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:36,720
with that play in two to three years. But they

596
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:38,920
got points off of it. They got points off your turnovers.

597
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:40,960
You do that against the University of Utah, they're gonna

598
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,920
beat you by a score if not too so. And

599
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,440
I think that's maybe what Vegas is banking on in

600
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640
that regard. And then Arizona you go on the road.

601
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,160
But here's the thing, Ben, He's got to be duo

602
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:55,200
some point to not have those mistakes. He's gonna see

603
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,200
on tape the good defensive players that Utah has, his moxie,

604
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,519
his clib is demeanor, he's gonna be locked in. And

605
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:05,640
then with others around him like LJ with Bruce Mitchell

606
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,200
who played in this game, Keano ton of Aust on

607
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,160
the opposite side, he's got team that's gonna be like, hey,

608
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:10,319
you really can't do this.

609
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: He's got a coaching staff. If you give.

610
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Speaker 4: Morgan Scalley's defense the ball, then Jason Beck's offense is

611
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,440
gonna go score. They can do that in their regard.

612
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You also are gonna understand the tendencies of that. Morgan

613
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,440
Scalley likes to bring pressure they so he knows he's

614
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,359
gonna know what exactly he's gonna get. And I believe

615
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,559
that Bear's gonna take care of the football. Now here's

616
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:32,960
the biggest concern. I'm not concerned about I'm throwing picks.

617
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:35,240
I think he's gonna have that. I'm more concerned about

618
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,279
fumbles in this game because they like to run him.

619
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Speaker 2: Utah wants to hit.

620
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a physical game in the Arizona game,

621
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,160
if you go back and look at the film, Bear's

622
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,759
got two hends on.

623
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: The ball like this Ben. They just do a good

624
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,440
job of punching it out.

625
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: So I'm more worried about ball security in the run

626
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,559
game from him and LJ all the running backs in

627
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,839
their regard. So he's gonna have to take care of

628
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:55,359
the football. I believe he will do it, but I'm

629
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:57,759
more concerned about the fumbles in the running game than

630
00:31:57,759 --> 00:31:58,519
I am the pass game.

631
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,359
Speaker 2: Necessarily. Let's get to this sound.

632
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: Kalani Shataki address the media yesterday and he answered this question.

633
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,000
The intensity of the robbery game has gone up and

634
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,039
down is b way and Utah has changed conferences. Do

635
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:13,160
you see it ramping up again now that it's in

636
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,799
a conference once again?

637
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 6: I think the competition has always been there and the

638
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,480
intensity can be there. There's nothing wrong with the intensity

639
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,240
being there. I just me personally, I would like to

640
00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:27,240
see it be like with tons of respect. You know,

641
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:30,680
whether we want to admit it or not, we actually

642
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960
need each other. You know, this is a great rivalry

643
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:35,880
when we when we have each other on the schedule,

644
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,720
and regardless of the outcome this weekend, I mean, there's

645
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:41,440
a lot of different things that can happen that that

646
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:44,240
we'll probably need each other's help. And so I don't

647
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,839
think there's a I've said it before that you know,

648
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,039
wishing bad things.

649
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,279
Speaker 1: On others is not good for the soul.

650
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 6: And I'm not trying to tell fans how to do it,

651
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:54,519
but it's got to be a lot more fun when

652
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:57,240
you can actually have and talk about the respect that

653
00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,519
you have for each other and that that there is

654
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,200
connection from both sides. I mean you just look at

655
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,160
the at the coaching staff and on both sides you

656
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,480
see the impact on both that both schools have on

657
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:11,880
each other. I mean, this is that's just the type

658
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,000
of rivalry that it is. And and now the transfer portal,

659
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:16,960
there's players that we have here that there were there,

660
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,480
and there's players that we had had that they had

661
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,160
there that are here now. So and and honestly, I

662
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,640
have a lot of love and respect for everyone that's involved,

663
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,160
and so uh, it's an honor for me to be

664
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,200
the coach here and to be part of this this game.

665
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,119
Speaker 1: And I think.

666
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 6: It would be a lot more fun if we can

667
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,160
have just value what and there's you could be a

668
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,279
fan and I'm just telling you it's so much more

669
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,920
fun be a fan cheering for your team rather than

670
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,319
cheering against the others.

671
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: You know that.

672
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 6: That's that's how I view it. But fans gonna do

673
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,079
however they want. I'm just telling them, just try it, man.

674
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:52,519
It's a lot of fun when you when you cheer

675
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,599
your team on and and you show a lot of

676
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,359
respect for the for the opposing team. It's it's a

677
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:58,759
different way to do it, and it's a lot more

678
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,960
more more fun and enjoy.

679
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,359
Speaker 3: Kalana given some wise words to all of us, But

680
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,440
let's talk about the petty nature of maybe some Utah

681
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:12,559
fans here for a moment, I thought it was interesting.

682
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:14,880
It is an interesting study, a case study, if you will.

683
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,199
There was a video that's gone viral Utah fans during

684
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,440
their game at Rice Ecle Stadium versus versus ASU. They're

685
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,320
in their ponchos. Maybe the game's getting a little bit boring.

686
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:34,039
Utah's up big, and every every fan in the stands

687
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,960
has their smartphone out streaming the BYU and U of

688
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:42,199
a game. Lockdown, eyes on their opponent. Are they scouting?

689
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,239
Maybe they have their game locked up, locked up. They

690
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,360
like no reason to watch anymore. They know they're gonna

691
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,639
get that down. Now they're reverting to the scouting reboard.

692
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,199
Is BYU going to be undefeated going into this game?

693
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:55,360
What will that mean?

694
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:55,559
Speaker 2: Now?

695
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: I want to believe that Utah fans are that in

696
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:03,559
depth calculated, that you know, strategic. They want to get

697
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:06,280
a little scouted report on the on the BYU Cougars.

698
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,519
No doubt it's the following week's game, it's the rivalry

699
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:13,000
game coming up. Or is it just that they do

700
00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:15,760
this every single game and it's a comparative culture and

701
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,719
it's a petty culture.

702
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: I think there's both, maybe a little bit of ball.

703
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,280
I think there is comparative culture.

704
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,079
Speaker 2: You know.

705
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 4: I have a certain friend that's a Utah fan says, well,

706
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,280
we beat West Virginia by this, and I said, I

707
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,639
didn't show up and the one lost column. He's like, oh,

708
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:33,880
both wins exactly. So you're comparing trying to compare wins.

709
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,519
It was like, if you want to compare wins, well

710
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:38,000
you lost to Texas Tech, Well what if we beat

711
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:38,400
you guys?

712
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: It's like, well, this is not a week.

713
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 4: First of all, I don't do wease I'm in the media,

714
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,920
but you can feel that way. But if Utah beats

715
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,280
b YU and then BA beats Texas Tech. What does

716
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,559
that mean he lost the Texas Tech. You don't need

717
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:51,840
That's the problem is you get comparative. Don't be comparative.

718
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880
Just say, look, you're six and zero. Our team might

719
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,639
have to deliver you that first TEL of the season.

720
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,159
I think that's okay to be competitive in that nature.

721
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,440
But there is a comparative and the scouting of both

722
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,559
because it doesn't mean, well, if they beat b YU

723
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,159
that's their biggest one of the season.

724
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, top fifteen win.

725
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: They just beat Arizona, which would be another top twenty

726
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,920
five one, so they're going to jump and be a

727
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,880
top fifteen team.

728
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: So I think it's both.

729
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 3: Let's get our scouting report on Devin Dad here, the

730
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:19,320
quarterback for the University of Utah. How special is Devin

731
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,199
and what do you see from him?

732
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Super talented and he's tough man.

733
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,679
Speaker 6: He's he has great vision and that's in the passing

734
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,119
game and in the running game.

735
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,639
Speaker 1: He's an efficient player.

736
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 6: So when you look at it the stats, I mean

737
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,719
he knows where to go with the ball and he's

738
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,760
well coached. I think Jason Beck's done a great job

739
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,719
tutoring him, mentoring him, and there's a reason why they

740
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,079
brought him, you know, with him, and so I think

741
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,320
he looks really comfortable out there and whatever you need

742
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,280
to do, whatever you need him to do, he's willing

743
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,679
to do it and super tough. But I think a

744
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:55,840
lot of attention will go to his legs because he

745
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,119
can run, but he can throw too, and I like

746
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:03,320
like this overall presence on the field. Definitely respect what

747
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,079
he does, and he's gonna be dangerous, you know. It's

748
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:09,119
it's he's got our attention. I know, Uh, Coach Hill

749
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:10,599
and the rest of the coaches are trying to find

750
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:13,199
ways to to you know, try to try to see

751
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:15,840
if we can disrupt his timing and disrupt everything we

752
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,840
can that he can do positively on the field, but

753
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,400
that's easier said than done. He's a really good player,

754
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,320
he's tough. And then you compliment that with with the

755
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,559
with the really talented old line, very athletic and tough,

756
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:29,920
and then tight ends that can block receivers, that can

757
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,639
catch the ball, all that stuff they get. They got

758
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,159
a really good team on offense. And then you already

759
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:37,280
know how I feel about the defense and defense coordinatord

760
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,559
with Morgan Scalle. He's a good friend of mine. And

761
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:41,880
all the coaches that are there that I know really well,

762
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,000
Lewis Powell and all them, those are my Those are

763
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,320
my guys, you know. But this is when it comes

764
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,760
down to it. We're not the ones playing the game.

765
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,679
We had our moments already. Work wor Old has beens.

766
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:53,679
There never was. But it's kind of fun to see

767
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:55,760
these young guys get after it. And I'm a little

768
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,519
jealous there they're in the Big twelve and they get

769
00:37:57,559 --> 00:37:57,920
to do this.

770
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 2: We were.

771
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,039
Speaker 6: We were in the whack and the mountain way that

772
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:01,800
when we got to do it. So this is a

773
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,280
really cool upgrade for the for the rivalry game.

774
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm jealous.

775
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean I got to be a part of some

776
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,519
great rivalry games, no doubt, and I'm undefeated against the youths.

777
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:21,280
So yeah, no, I am not ready. But you know,

778
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,760
it's a it's it's a great game. It's a great

779
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,079
rivalry game. It's it's one of the best in college football.

780
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,920
No's answer butts about it, and and Klanie recognizes that,

781
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:36,480
and that's why he elaborates so intentionally about the special

782
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:38,000
nature of this Ribery game, and he gives a lot

783
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:40,320
of love to to Devin Dad Pier as well. My question,

784
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,599
you guys, is this, who's a better quarterback statistically? Who's

785
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:49,880
a better quarterback objectively? Devindad Pier or Bear Bachmeyer? And

786
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,519
I look, we maybe have blue goggles here, but who

787
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:55,920
would you rather trot out onto your to be your

788
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:59,519
the leader of your football team. If you evaluate the

789
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,920
first six games of the season, what do you got, Ronnie?

790
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're gonna say based off of evaluating

791
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,360
who I would have to go with, the people gonna

792
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,320
think it's biased. But Bear, look how he's bounced back

793
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,400
from turnovers. I haven't seen Devin do that necessarily yet

794
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,280
against a good football team in a high pressure situation.

795
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,280
The one tough game that he played was Texas Tech,

796
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,400
and he wet the bed. Sorry not text Tech is

797
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,760
the best team in the commerce, but he's still wet

798
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,480
the bed. Bear against a good Arizona defense, which is

799
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:27,480
arguably the best secondary would takeaways, you can argue that

800
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:28,639
what happened.

801
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: He went out there and he's tied. Think you got a.

802
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,679
Speaker 4: Feel going in the entire the game up and then

803
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,039
overtime put the game away. Right, So I'm bringing up

804
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,360
objective data. You're asking me based on the ejected data,

805
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,719
then I'm gonna go Bear. West Virginia turns it over

806
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,800
at home, so I still goes down next play mentality Stanford,

807
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,039
you know, doesn't see certain fourth downs comes back out

808
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,679
like all of that matters being if you're taking into

809
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,119
account in that regard.

810
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:52,199
Speaker 2: So I think Bear has been faced.

811
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,599
Speaker 4: With a little bit more adversity than Devin has, So

812
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:56,480
I'll go with Bear on that. But if you're really

813
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,719
asking me from a statistical standpoint, I think I'm gonna

814
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,159
say they're both probably the same in that regard. Devon's

815
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:07,360
in a new conference facing you know, elite talent for

816
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,079
the first time, not saying that when he was a

817
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:10,519
you know, at his last school, it wasn't. But the

818
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:13,079
Big twelve is a different beast, and then Bear is

819
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,480
a true freshman. So I think they're both right on part.

820
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,719
But if you're asking me to pick splitting hairs, I

821
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,400
think Bear has a slight aedge in that regard. I

822
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,679
think he's faced a little bit more adversity than Devin has.

823
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 5: It.

824
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,199
Speaker 2: Don't bring up, oh, what Devon's been injured?

825
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,679
Speaker 4: No, no, no, we're talking about playing the game, not something

826
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,559
a ding that you got in practice or a game.

827
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,840
And even with the Bear has still been able to overcome.

828
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,440
I think his size and that run ability is something

829
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,719
that separates him from Devn just a little bit.

830
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I mean, dam Pier's good running. I'm

831
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,239
not gonna do that. He's good. I think Bear's a

832
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,760
little bit better because of his size, so he can

833
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,760
take hits that Devin can.

834
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:46,519
Speaker 3: Damp Here is three hundred seventy eight yards on the

835
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:49,400
ground five point eight yards per carry, five rushing touchdowns,

836
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:53,239
comparative to Bachmeier at two ninety five four point two

837
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,480
yards per carry, seven rushing touchdowns, a long run of sixteen,

838
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:58,840
and Dan Pierre.

839
00:40:58,679 --> 00:40:59,599
Speaker 2: Is twenty four.

840
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,039
Speaker 3: From a passing standpoint, damp Pierre completes a higher rate

841
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:08,760
seventy one point five percent, has thrown for one and

842
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,239
thirty one yards his yards per temp though at six

843
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,320
point nine uh eleven touchdowns, three interceptions, a QB rating

844
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,119
of one forty seven point five h and he's been

845
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:23,960
sacked three times on the inverse. Bachmeyer sixty three point

846
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000
two percent completion percentage one and twenty yards through the

847
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,440
air eight point five yards Perds have eight touchdowns through

848
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,320
the year, three interceptions, and a QB rating of one

849
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,519
forty eight point five, so slightly better.

850
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, said the argument. They're asking me that.

851
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,719
That's why I said that they're pretty much the same. Well,

852
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,480
that's why I brought that out and said if you're

853
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,199
and I brought up the adversity department, because again I'm

854
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:49,599
bringing up a valid data point. Devin Dampier has also

855
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:51,440
played Texas Tech, though, which I think is bad.

856
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 4: But anywhen I understand that, but adverse, I understand that,

857
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,920
but Texas Tech does not have the best secondary of

858
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,719
takeaway in the ball that Arizona did anyone on the road.

859
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,440
You were at home and you lost that game. I

860
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,639
understand that. But and this is we really won't know.

861
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:05,639
So they played Texas Tech.

862
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,599
Speaker 2: But if Bear would to go on the road and

863
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:09,920
play well at Texas Tech and or win that game,

864
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:12,239
then the conversations put to bed. We won't really know

865
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:12,960
it to that point.

866
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,039
Speaker 4: But I still think Bear has faced a little bit

867
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:17,159
more adversity than Devin has in that regard.

868
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,079
Speaker 2: I'm still going to stay they're the same, but just.

869
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 5: The football twice through the air in that Arizona game

870
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,360
exactly that.

871
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: But and then what did he do and any bounce back,

872
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,840
but we'd be ripping him in favor.

873
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,519
Speaker 5: You're saying Arizona has a difficult secondary as to pass

874
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:34,840
against and as a better defensive spot. My pushback is

875
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,239
Bear didn't really throw the ball that much against Arizona.

876
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,599
In fact, he was twelve of twenty five. I believe,

877
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:43,480
And again I love Bear Backmer. I'm not trying to

878
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,639
say Arizona they won with the run game in that regard, No,

879
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,280
I agree. I'm just saying that your point is Arizona

880
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,679
had a better pass defense. And the pushback is, yes,

881
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,239
but Bear didn't really pass now he didn't have to,

882
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,079
and he was incredible with his legs. I'm just saying

883
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,639
I think Devin Dampier's adversity, with what he's played at

884
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,639
this point in the season, I think is just as

885
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:06,440
good now. I think where you hang your hat is

886
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,519
Devin's been doing it for longer. Bear has a higher

887
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,679
upside because of the size. In fact, I asked chat GBT.

888
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,159
I said, Chat GBT, who's better Bear Bachmeyer or Devin Dampier.

889
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,320
The first thing they said is this is a totally

890
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,079
unfair question. The answer depends on how much weight you

891
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,159
put on experience versus upside. The biggest con chat GBT

892
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,519
gives that Devin Dampier is he's just too small. But

893
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,800
the biggest con they give Bear Backmeyer is that he

894
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,079
just doesn't have that much of a sample size yet.

895
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:41,639
But they do say bear Backmeer has a higher upside

896
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:44,480
and could surpass expectations in twenty twenty.

897
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 2: I think Bear's a bigger red zone threat than Devin is.

898
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,519
Speaker 4: And uh and that's because of the size, right, and

899
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:52,880
the nature of that.

900
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,639
Speaker 5: That's also though, like not disrespect Devin, even though he's

901
00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:02,440
not tall, he's compact two five almost two ten, twenty

902
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,199
pounds less than Bear, and Bear has three four more inches.

903
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,199
Speaker 2: So like, Devin is a real threat.

904
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,599
Speaker 5: And this comes from a guy who I had almost

905
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:11,880
little to no faith in Devin damp Here coming into

906
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,599
the season because every Utah fans argument was, oh, well,

907
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:16,559
he was the Mountain West Conference Player of the year. Yeah,

908
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:19,760
that's and he threw as many touchdowns as he did interceptions.

909
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,760
If that's your Mountain West Conference Player of the year,

910
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:24,280
you must not have that many guys who were competing

911
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,199
for that Award and I stand by that take. However,

912
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:29,920
using that take to then say he won't be that

913
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:32,559
good this year, I don't think was fully correct on

914
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:35,960
my behalf, because I do think Devin has improved from

915
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,840
what he was as a quarterback last year. Now it

916
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,519
helps when you have first round draft pick NFL tackles. Yeah,

917
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:46,519
but absolutely, but has still been good and we know

918
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:47,679
in that Texas Tech game.

919
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: He wasn't fully healthy. We'll see what he looks like.

920
00:44:49,519 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 5: He's gonna get the probably the second third best defense

921
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,079
in the Big Twelve when he goes to Lavelle Edward

922
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:56,280
City in this and again it's.

923
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:56,559
Speaker 2: On the road.

924
00:44:56,559 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: And this is what I mean by I'm saying bear

925
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,599
Bear has had to face then Reginia GA. You could

926
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:03,400
knock it up to the Texas Tech because they both

927
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,840
turned the ball over at home and it's not the

928
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,199
same team. I know that, But I just think Barris

929
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,280
had to go to Colorado Arizona. I think he's a

930
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,159
little bit more fit, if based on having dealt with

931
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:16,400
these things than Devin. Just now, in the power conference

932
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,480
of this big and this magnitude of the robber game,

933
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:19,960
they're both gonna have their moments like if they both

934
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,719
turn over the ball in this game, I would not

935
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,360
be surprised. Honestly, it's gonna be their first time feeling

936
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,840
these emotions. I just think Bear is more quick from

937
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,480
what we've seen and what he's had to deal with.

938
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,320
Like he went on the road against West Virginia, right

939
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,519
and then you had to buy You played Asu, played

940
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:36,079
Texas Tech. Bear had to go to Colorado, deal with

941
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:37,480
that environment, go to Arizona.

942
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:39,199
Speaker 2: Then you come back to your home crowd.

943
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: I think that gives you a little bit more confident

944
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,199
slightly then it would Devin. They're both going to be

945
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,679
extremely confident. I just think Bears had to face that

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the opportunity to.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna see on Saturday. We should probably take

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who's better?

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