Speaker 1: Let's go all start to you to presents. Off the
bench with Jacob Hester and T. Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and C. Bob aber
I gotta come off the bitch.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Here's Jacob Hester and T. Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: What's going on y'all? Tuesday? But late twenty twenty five,
hope were having a great day. Guys that have ourselves
a great day. Wherever this day find you in the
car and the way to work, way to school, whatever
the case may be. Let's give it our all today, guys,
Uh untailor laid. Now, we got a good show planning
for you. I'm T B Baby, He's Jake Kester. We
got a Launder b R L and Taylor Sharp all
hanging out today. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: A national championship game took place last night and uh unfortunately,
but much to Jake's pleasure, he was right. It was
damn already Florida Gators adding another national championship to their
to their trophy case. Absolutely heartbreaking for Houston. I only
saw the end of the game, so I'll let y'all
kind of carry the conversation. But I did find it
a bit interesting that over the final couple of minutes
it was the defense of Florida that ended up being
the difference in the game as opposed to the defense
of the highly heralded Houston Cougars.
Speaker 6: So we were doing the pregame show yesterday kind of
leading into the game, and it was funny. We were,
you know, all the things that we were talking about
and what Florida had to do to win the game,
what Houston had to do to win the game, and
we were talking eight, if this hits in the under
man that really favores Houston. Well, did hit the under
If they contained Walter Clayton junior, they are going to
win this basketball game. They did contain Walter Clayton junior.
He was three of ten, only had eleven points. And
so you start to look at some of the things
that we were talking about, like, hey, if you can
get this done, you've got a great chance to win.
And Houston got those things done for the most part.
The only thing Houston didn't do Tea was make the play.
They had a couple of different opportunities to make the
play that was going to go win you the basketball game.
And Tatay, you were talking about it as we came in.
They had multiple chances. They didn't take advantage of said chances.
And when you do everything right except have somebody, one player,
one time step up and make the play in a
game like this, I'm just not going to win those.
And Florida came up with the play and it was,
like you said, not on offense, it was on defense.
Speaker 2: I did read a crazy stat. Florida led this game
for one minute in four seconds. I mean, poor Kelvin
Sampson sixty nine years old, when the oldest coach ever
take them a D one title six years I believe
as a head coach, six Sweet sixteams in a row.
What is this? Three final fours?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Mixing there? Two? I think I think three.
Speaker 5: It's it's three or four.
Speaker 2: I just saw it this morning. It's I'm about just
in this recent one. Yeah, four straight Sweet sixteen. It's
six straight Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, two final fours and the ones the Elite eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So again, just uh been so close and now
to lead for ninety eight percent of the game, to
have the lead going into the final two minute stretch,
and just and and and to be unable to come
up with the bucket in a tournament where you had
a a beautiful set piece against Purdue to in that game,
you had one of the most insane comebacks we've ever
seen against what was objectively the most talented team in
Duke and yet here when you needed it most, it
flitted away. The muse she left you. They're thinking, staring
at the blank page, staring at another uh failed run
at a at a at a national title. I mean,
as if like it would, I would feel bad for
Sampson almost regardless of these circumstances, and everything's just exacerbated
because it's Florida, who you know, I obviously don't want
to win, and it's Golden who's only thirty nine years old,
and like, it's just, yeah, just I feel really.
Speaker 6: Bad for only coach been head coach six years and
one of those years was a shortened COVID year, so
five and a half years as a head coach.
Speaker 2: The young exactly, and looking at Calvinton, it's like and
then now becomes the youngest coach since Jim Valvano to
win a Nattie. Who did it at thirty seven years old?
And who did he beat back in nineteen today?
Speaker 5: Three Houston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston.
Speaker 6: Look, I mean nineteen seconds left to you, Bob, you
get you get the basketball back, you're down to and
you don't get at least a shot up, and then
you also don't foul to try to get the ball back.
There's not a worse way for you to handle the
situation than what you did. Now, you're passing the ball around,
nobody's really moving around. You're looking for only the three
when all you needed was a two to send it
to overtime, right, and then you just make you know,
a play that you can't make in that situation. Sharp, Sorry, Taylor,
your your cousin jumps up, decides not to shoot the shot. Well,
he obviously can't touch the basketball again. He was smart
like as far as like he knew it, and he
was trying to box out in the Florida player.
Speaker 2: Had he dribbled, had he picked up his dribble? Are
you if you haven't picked up your dribble, are you
not allowed to jump?
Speaker 6: And then if you had touched it.
Speaker 2: I guess I've just been watching too much. And one
growing up where sometimes guys would catch a pass, jump
and then and then and then dribble out the h
out the air because at first it's kind of hot.
Speaker 6: Sauce can do it sharp cannot Yeah, yeah, uh, I
mean he tried. He tried to. I mean he had
to buy.
Speaker 2: Him, you know, smart play.
Speaker 5: You're right, he might.
Speaker 6: Maybe you grab the ball and hope they don't hit,
you know, you foul him, and then hopefully they don't
hit their free throws.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think there's even I don't care.
I don't think there's anything you can do to get
any credit for smart play. After you rise up and
throw the ball on the ground, Like take a shot,
you have to take a shot. And at the end
of the day, nobody wanted to take the shot.
Speaker 5: And although it is true, nobody did.
Speaker 6: I mean he he he did, but he was too reckless.
Speaker 2: He had it, I mean, take it if you know,
if he wanted to, he could have shot it.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe even if he thought he was going to
miss it. Yeah, he got to get a shot up.
Speaker 2: Yes, like if Florida's in that same position, now, Clayton's
take the shot even if he is no doubt or whatever,
like there there's no doubt, you know exactly who's taking
it right there, just didn't They couldn't find it, Tyler,
what do you uh? What were your thoughts I heard
you taking as the show was cranking up? Where your
thoughts in the last sense game.
Speaker 7: That was the same possession two different times in a row.
If you go back and watch it against against Houston,
because the're up one, it was about a minute and
forty left. And I was telling Jake, like, Victoria's not
watching the game. She's sitting on the couch. But I
yelled things at her during the game, obviously, and I
was like, I was like, hey, you know, if you
said take this, she knew.
Speaker 2: What does she sit again? She reading when she sitting
on the couch. What is she doing or something?
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I'm like, you know, if you said takes
a three here they're up four with like a minute left,
that'd be hard to come back. They go for the three.
Florida knew they were going to do it. They had
absolutely no backup plan. They're like, we're taking this three. Anyways,
what happens? They take a deep one, they airball it,
Florida goes down to take the lead. Same thing on
the last possession, and you were talking about Walter Clayton's
taking that shot.
Speaker 2: They got it to the right guy.
Speaker 7: If you go back and look, it was a three
ended in regulation to LJ.
Speaker 2: Cryer.
Speaker 7: That's who they got the ball to. Florida double teamed him.
Everyone on Houston panic did. They had no idea what
to do after that happened. It's like they had the
right place set up originally, but when everything didn't go perfect,
they had no sort of backup playing.
Speaker 2: It happened twice in the last two minutes. Yeah, you
do have to also give Florida credit. Their defense in
those final four or five possessions was stifling, hard to penetrate.
There's the big block. The one time they did kind
of penetrate, like you said, around the three point line,
guys were just absolutely smothered. Yeah. Again, I mean, look,
this was you know, this was these were two teams
that were elite, elite on one side of the ball,
but still top ten on the other side of the ball.
And again in the end, it was Florida's defense, which
is still very good, but didn't get nearly as much credit.
Like in the Battle of weakness on weakness, you know,
and that's air quote weakness Florida's defense against Houston's offense.
Florida won that battle in the end when it mattered most,
and now you are national champion despite leaving the game
for one.
Speaker 6: Minute and having the other team dictate the pace of
the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, I mean, you hold Clayon. That's
a really good point. You have the under you hold
Clayton nothing, and yet you still you did everything you
thought you had to, and yet you still end up
losing the game, and.
Speaker 6: You were up double digits in the second half. Like
you're You're going to look back at that run that
Florida made. I think it probably started about thirteen fourteen
minutes left, maybe thirteen minutes left in the game, and
you weren't able to close the door.
Speaker 2: See, so yeah, I definitely actually though thought if you
hadn't I definitely actually thought if you hadn't dribbled and
pulled up that you could have.
Speaker 6: Dribbled and you just got to look, you gotta put
a shot up with about six seconds left.
Speaker 5: That way you have time to either rebound or.
Speaker 2: Found crash the boards. Get that, just take that thing
and then crash the boards. But I mean, I get
at that point he's not consciously thinking, his body is
just reacting. But on some intrinsic level, he didn't really
want the shot. He didn't really want the shot, because
if you really want the shot on that on that
kind of base, subconscious level, you're taking it no matter
what right there, no matter how bad it looks, no
matter who's in your face. But his body didn't want it, unfortunately.
Speaker 7: And if you go back and watch the beginning of
the game, like Houston was great on defense, they scored
the first basket of the game, they had that early lead,
but there were possessions early in this game where Houston
had three opportunities. They got two offensive rebounds in the
same position, could not convert anything. I mean, as good
as their defense was, that they came out ice cold.
That bit them and then they were bad at the end.
Speaker 2: Uh what well that? I feel like you said, every
college pastal national championship shooting is almost never good. Yeah.
I don't know if it's guys, guys get nervy the
sight lines, whatever it is. It feels like that's always
the case for sure. There seemed to be some amount
of complaining about the referees. Again, I only watch the
end of the game. Uh, I see you rolling your eyes?
Do you all agree?
Speaker 7: I actually thought they were okay. I mean I didn't
see them favoring one team over the other.
Speaker 2: I don't think I saw that as much as just
a lot of whistles. But I mean, these are fuss
but there were there were some times where I'm like, oh,
they're gonna call that a block and foul.
Speaker 7: Nope, clean block. Let them play. I mean at times,
at times I thought they let them be aggressive.
Speaker 6: Jake, you agree, Yeah, I mean, it wasn't anything egregious
that stood out to me.
Speaker 2: Well, congrats to Chris Doran and Chris Doran alone.
Speaker 6: I don't know that I have any other Florida Gators
that I'm coach Matt McCall for me, it's one of
my co hosts on off campus. Okay, give you a quick,
that's the only time quick.
Speaker 5: Whatever. Congrats enduring you FaceTime me way too late.
Speaker 2: No, congrats to you, Tim Tebow.
Speaker 5: No, you don't get it.
Speaker 2: Painfully clear about that.
Speaker 5: Nope, you don't get it. You don't get it. Congratulations.
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met with yet another quarterback, and unfortunately, if you're an
LSU fan, it's one that you are all too familiar with.
As this is from a Jordan Schultze quote sources, Alabama
quarterback Jalen Milroe had private workouts with the Saints and
Browns that were described as impressive. He also met with
key members of the Jets office staff of the Steelers
prior to his pro day last month. So you and
and we I want to talk about Milroe specifically, but
also overall the New Orleans Saints doing their homework on
this quarterback class. It's making me think more and more
that with the plethora of picks that they have in
this upcoming draft, that at some point they are planning
to take a flyer on a quarterback, which would be
in keeping with some of their recent actions when you
look at Jake Hayner and uh and and and you
look at Spencer Rattler. But now, I guess the key
difference would be is you have the winning his college
quarterback of all time doing the evaluation in Kellen Moore,
and and and you have Doug nuss Smyer. Right, You've
got Scott Tolzy and it's it's it's a new quarterback
think tank that is doing the evaluation. They've now worked
out and had private meetings with Quinn Ewers. They've been
linked to Kyle McCorry, Jackson Dart, Jalen Milroe. Oh, obviously
Shuit Sanders. Jalen Milroe the latest UH to to enter
the mix. Here. Let's start with talking about Milroe alone.
I have a feeling that Milroe's price will be a
bit too rich for the New Orleans Saints. UH Like
I I I don't think he's going to fall that
far because from a pure physical perspective, he has a
superpower like he has the most upside because of his athleticism.
He just doesn't have the more traditional QB skill set
that some of the others do. Where would JERRYL. Milroe
have to fall, Jake for you to want to take
a shot at him. Well, I don't know where I
would want him to fall.
Speaker 6: But the Saints feel like all this homework that they've done,
they're taking a quarterback at nine or forty, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Oh so you think that early? So then not long
about the price being that rich?
Speaker 6: No, I think if they don't take one at nine,
they are going to take a quarterback at forty. Well,
they have put so much work into this quarterback class now.
I mean even mel Kiper Junior, he comes out with
a mock draft about an hour ago. He's got Sharara
Sanders number nine overall to the Saints, which.
Speaker 2: Our own Ross Jackson of Louisiana Sports the Net also
did yesterday.
Speaker 6: And I mean, I think at this point, everybody, even Vegas,
has the Saints as the landing spot for Sanders. So
it feels like they are going quarterback no matter what. Now,
if someone they really love falls to them at nine
that can help their team right now, that can play
right now, maybe they select that player at nine, and
then forty's when they take their quarterback. I do believe
there's going to be quarterbacks at forty that are valuable.
I think there's a lot of quarterbacks in this draft
that actually forty would fit about where they need to
be drafted. So the Saints are gonna have a decision
that they've got to make. If Shadar Sanders is still
on the board at number nine, are they willing to
pass him up? Because it does feel like he is
the one that they've identified as their top quarterback on
the board, and maybe ky Ward is they know they're
not going.
Speaker 5: To get Ward anymore.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But like you know, mel Kiper's got Shade Sanders
as his top quarterback and so he's got him going
ninth overall. Mal he's got him going ninth overall to
the Saints and SOT. Again, we talked about this yesterday.
This is nothing to do with Sanders the player. It's
what you need right now and it doesn't get filled
at nine. With your current quarterback situation and Derek Carr
in the contract and what you're going to be paying him,
it doesn't make a lot of sense, especially when you
think about who's going to be available next year in
this draft at the quarterback position. But you know, if
they do select him, they'll they'll do something they haven't
done in fifty years, and this is somebody that they'd
have to fall in love with. I think to select
at nine because you've got other needs that are more
pressing right now, and you could still get i think,
a quality, starting, quality quarterback at forty.
Speaker 2: So what he's saying, I mean, but didn't they choose Okay,
So this is interesting because we've kind of naturally morphed back
into litigating shadur here. And I almost feel different than
I did yesterday because I don't know, maybe it's a
deal where I was kind of closed off to it
because I didn't think it's realistic because it didn't seem
like the Saints set of time the moment of that direction.
I mean, didn't they just skip Did they just skip
his workout or his uh? What one of the workouts
do I have?
Speaker 5: My tennessee, are aren't going to have a workout anymore?
Speaker 2: No, I thought there was no I know that I
thought that the Saints decided against sending like Kellen Moore
to his pro day or or's it. It just doesn't
seem like there's been a lot of like the same
way we have stories about them having the private uh
workout and and and hosting Quinn yours. Now they're having
the private workout with Jalen Milroe. There's so many storylines.
Correct me if I'm wrong, But that is not That
has not been the case of the Saints insure yet.
Right I'm looking around the room, guys, I haven't, I haven't.
We're wrong, wrong, But I'm saying but that we're all
I'm just making sure we're all on the same page.
So my question then becomes, is this a is is
this is this gamesmanship? If they're really going to take
him at nine? Are they trying to convince people that
they aren't so nobody tries to trade up ahead of
them at eight? Like is you're saying, is that what's
going on here? Or are they actually not interested? Because
I think some of my hesitance on Shitter definitely came
for the fact that I just didn't think Saints were interested,
and so I wasn't gonna allow myself to go there.
Now that we're talking this out loud, if you're telling
me that it's realistic and that they're gonna do that,
and they do that, well that becomes kind of exciting.
Like I don't give a damn about the ball padding
holding on to it, time to throw whatever sas.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: Me and Taylor were talking about this yesterday. It's it's
a question of was he doing Does he hold on
the ball Solong in Colorado because he knows he can
and he's just trying to make a play, but he
has the ability to get rid of it quickly, or
can he not process fast enough, and I'm willing to
give him a bit of the benefit of the doubt
in that regard that it is the former not the latter.
But that is a big risk. That is certainly a
big risk. Shouldar would look cool than the black and
gold though, dude, m okay I asked about it. No,
Dion's been pushing it hard.
Speaker 3: They even asked Shoudour about Kellen Moore and he seemed
two really good things.
Speaker 6: He better like, you don't want to set that where
you're like, nah.
Speaker 3: Anybody was like praising him, that's all I meant.
Speaker 6: No, no, for sure, but if anybody this is more
of a this time of year, like you have to
make sure that you're saying the right things.
Speaker 3: Then and for what it's worth, Adam Schefter is adamant
on him going to the Saints at nine. Brian Dable
met with Abdul Carter the other day, so they think
he's gonna fall because of that.
Speaker 6: For what it's worth, other quarterbacks and again this min draft,
we know what that is. But still like on the radar,
Jackson Dart at twenty six to the Rams. Then you
go to early in the second round, back to back
picks to start out the second round, Tyler Shuck from
Louisville thirty three to the Browns, Jaylen Milroe thirty four
to the Giants.
Speaker 2: So that's the other question I was gonna ask, is
if you were going to take a quarterback forty, who
would that be.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest, if like for the Giants though,
if they could get Milroe at thirty four and then
at number three they get Abdulla Carter, that's better than
getting Wait, who are.
Speaker 2: The Browns taking in this Travis Hunter instead? Oh, that's
kind of the thing yesterday.
Speaker 7: And the Browns came out Andrew Berry and all them
said they actually prefer him at wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Look, I Dravis Hunter could play. I don't know how
to project that he could play wherever he wants. Yeah,
I figure out, Like, I don't really know, but I would.
Speaker 5: Oh man.
Speaker 2: I just thought there was something about teaming up Miles
Garrett and Abdul Carter that just felt like unstoppable. Maybe a
bit of too many resources in the same spot. But sheeesh, I.
Speaker 6: Agree, But they get do you get a too, like
a true two for one though?
Speaker 5: With Travis? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Sure, true, and you can use him out ever you want, Hey,
good coours, what you're going to do, Travis Hunters, you
were going to play twenty five snaps of offense and
forty plays of defense or however you want that? And
he has shown at least in the college level. We'll
see if it translates that he can do it both
at an elite level, Like it's probably not getting talked
enough about just the value that you would get there
because he's.
Speaker 5: Oping, willing and wanting to play both sides of the football.
Speaker 7: Also, like they were thirty first in the NFL and
touchdowns scored last year, that you you need a weapon.
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter's falling to the Ravens. Though yesterday that video
was so funny. Interesting. Hmmm. This is kind of crazy
because as we're talking this out, I mean I I
literally had this started as a Jaylen Milroe segment, and
yet now I'm having visions of a number two black
and gold jersey dancing in my head. I'm kind of
into this, dude, I'm very into this. You mentioned the
Giants getting Milroe at thirty something, Jake, and I think
that I'm with you. That'd be very good for New York.
If Miroe gets to learn at the feet of Russell
Wilson and Jameis Winston, in regardless of what you think
about where they are now, would be very good mentor
figures in terms of how do you become a very
successful quarterback in the NFL and be a professional? Okay, Lauren,
I'm drafting you Dr Sanders, first first round quarterback fifty.
I'm into it. I take back everything I said yesterday.
If this is real, if you guys are allowing me
to actually open my.
Speaker 5: Heart for real, it's for sure real, then I'm into
it now.
Speaker 6: And the other scenario that you were about to get
into is you're trying to get the Steelers. Probably that's
who I think I would identify at twenty one to
move up to nine to select Sanders.
Speaker 2: The problem is ahead of you. How would you That's
what I'm saying. How how do you entice people to
trade for your pick when there's nobody behind you that once? Right,
like that's the issue. You need somebody at ten who
needs a quarterback, but you don't have that now, somebody
might want to trade to eight like like that that
that's that's what to play here. If the Saints, I
think maybe that's why the Saints are being so demr
on the on the Sanders front and working out all
these other guys.
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means, but I think it
means like I no, it's I don't really know. I
mean either, gosh.
Speaker 6: I just again, this has nothing to do with Sanders. Now,
I'm not saying that. I I love him as a
first round quarterback. I think he's a good college player.
I love how accurate he was seventy four percent.
Speaker 5: You'll love that.
Speaker 6: I don't love how long he took to get the
football out. Like you said, was that because he felt
like he could? I don't think so, because he took
the most sacks and so he actually couldn't do that
in college. What is he going to do when times
get tough? That's going to be a question because there
might be some growing pains in New Orleans. I just
for what you need compared to what you would get
with Sanders. Can you get a player at nine, a
Tyler Warren, Matthew Golden, Tedero, McMillan, Mason Graham, whoever that
might be, and then at forty get a Queen yours
jay Len Milroe. Like, which one of those would you
be more intrigued by I personally think you get the playmaker,
and then you could get a quarterback very similar.
Speaker 5: I think at forty that you could get at nine.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Shoulder may not feel
like cam Ward, but he still feels different than those
other guys to me, and he is a pedigree that
is unlike those other guys this entire life space.
Speaker 6: What makes what makes him maybe we can get this
on the other side, What makes him more intriguing to
you than Jackson Dart, who had better stats in a
better league outside of completion percentage.
Speaker 2: I think that, uh. I think that Shadur was in
a worse spot in Colorado and was a key part
of taking a team that was god awful and then
going what's seven and two in the Big Twelve last year?
They damned I mean, if they'd won the bowl game,
would that have been ten wins? Certainly the bowl game
performance was very disappointing, But like, if you're talking about
going into a bad situation and making it better, and
that's kind of what the Saints are going to be.
He has a lot of experience in doing that, and
I like Jackson Darts and tangibles as well. I mean,
he's someone who Lank if it was desperately trying to
replace him, and you know, he just forced his way
and he just got better and better and made Lank
Kiven fall in love with him. So there's there's definitely
some tough this there as well. But look, if it's
a it's if it's a franchise quarterback, it's a franchise.
No playmaker can be more impactful than a franchise quarterback.
Can a franchise quarterback be made better by having playmakers around? Yes? Absolutely,
But there is no greater value in the NFL than
feeling like you found a guy under center, and I don't.
I don't know if I mean, who knows? Right? All
these guys are coin flips, you never know.
Speaker 6: But what happens you select Sanders number nine. And again
this isn't when I say mill Row at forty. It's
not that I like Sanders or sorry, Milrow better than Sanders.
I'm just trying to think of who would be available
at forty. I don't Jackson Dart's not gonna be there forty.
Speaker 5: He just not. He plays way out of that.
Speaker 6: I like Quinn you we was in that spot because
I've seen him make every throw throws at no other
quarterback in this draft even can make at times, it's
just not consistent. Just what do you do with Derek
Carr if you select Sanders in the first round nine overall?
Speaker 2: You uh, you you just sit look at Michael Pennocks.
You sit Sanders until you don't. If Derek Carr is
falling apart, you play, you play Sanders eventually. Let mean
cousins in Pinnis is literally the exact same blueprint, uh,
that the New Orleans Saints have right now.
Speaker 5: And Michael Pennock or Shouldter Sanders.
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think shoulder that that's such
a weird thing. That's that's a tough one to parts
because like what would Shouldter Sanders have looked like at
Washington with those receivers been pretty awesome?
Speaker 5: He did have the Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, he did going to be well
three first rounds. Like what are we talking about here? No?
Not okay, never never see you all say Colorado's as
good as washings Off.
Speaker 7: No, I think they had good receivers. I think that
was a bright spout of their team last year.
Speaker 2: Line wasn't Colorado won the Joe Award and had three
legitimate NFL receivers are good.
Speaker 5: But wait, they had one first rounder. Okay, yeah, so
there was so yeah, yeah, they had like a second
and a third.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, what what what what are we talking
about here, guys? What I'm saying is, I think Sadr
would have done freaking awesome in that Washington offense with
that support staff that Michael Pitnicks had. I think Pennis
has a stronger arm.
Speaker 6: Pinticks won in Indiana too. I mean, there's a lot
of that. We could go with a thousand different ways.
And she wanted Jackson State as well. Like what you
say that, but like they.
Speaker 7: Were better for I don't think those two levels are
not comparable.
Speaker 2: They're just not.
Speaker 6: I think Indian I mean, Indiana was one of the
worst football team. They actually are the worst football team
in Coast Football.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter because I'm just sitting here saying that,
Like it's impossible to know if a guy's going to
work out of the NFL or not. But I think
you're crazy if you're telling me that Schadur Sanders wouldn't
have also kicked as Washington.
Speaker 6: I actually hold Michael Pennick Jr. Pretty high up, so
I don't think he would have done as well as
Michael Pennick Jr.
Speaker 5: He would have done well, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe this will be the quarterback battle of the
future in the South twice a year Shooter Sanders in
the Saints Falcons rivalry. I'm into it. I'm into it.
If it is actually real and potentially going to happen. Uh,
it would be deeply exciting if the Saints were to
take a quarterback in the first round again, you can
go get a playmaker, absolutely, and that's gonna be the
more conservative sure bet, without a doubt. The quarterbacks the
biggest risk, but the upside will always land with quarterback.
There's no playmaker in the world that is better than
getting a good quarterback. Look at Miles Garrett. He's been
back to back and if it's a player the year,
five time All Pro and what does he have to
show for it. Nothing?
Speaker 5: It's because he plays them mistake by the lake.
Speaker 2: But I know, I know that's what I'm saying. But
if you have the quarterback, then you can figure everything
else out. No, we'll shoot her do that. I don't know,
I do know this. He'd be good for business. There'd
be a lot of talk, a lot of.
Speaker 5: Sports, for sure.
Speaker 2: The Sanders move with an economy unto themselves. All of
a sudden, we'd be like the Dallas Cowboys, be talked
out on. Get up every single day they're in the spotlight.
We'll see.
Speaker 5: If okay, we got your break.
Speaker 2: You want to get no, get get a fun. If
you wanna get a fun appointed.
Speaker 5: No, I mean we can. We can come back later.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around sorta.
Speaker 4: It's Off the Bench with Hester and Ta.
Speaker 2: Bob uh Uh. We have actually stumbled upon a topic
which has caused true passion in the room once again,
and it is this Shudur Sanders debate.
Speaker 5: Landrelim talked to us, I know, I know, so mean.
Speaker 2: Jake was trying to talk to him for a minute,
single thing.
Speaker 7: It was funny though, because he was like, we're about
to come back in and he's like laundre and she's
just sitting there.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, I'm like, damn, he mad at you? Jesse,
did I I think I think this. I think, as
we have talked out through the break, I think the
shouldere whether you want him or not probably boils down
to that one core idea of was he holding onto
the ball because he because he could and he thought
he you know, he wanted to try to make these
plays and that whatever he gets sacks, he'll take the
sacks and still make plays out of it. Or was
he holding on the ball because he can't process fast enough.
And so whether or not you're going to allow yourself
to be excited about Shad is whether or not you
believe that he can process his way out of pressure
at an NFL level. And I think he can, but
I have nothing to really base that on. I would
say maybe like his pedigree, who he's trained with the
fact that he's more aware of that than anybody. But
maybe I'm wrong and maybe he can't. And definitely, yeah,
like if you don't think he can, I would say
that the evidence is on your side, given the college play,
the time to throw in the forty million sacks like
Jake talked about. So I'm definitely kind of reaching to
give him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 6: And I'll go back to it like, again, this isn't
the player really for me, and why I think the
Saints probably should go elsewhere. It is more of what
their current makeup is and what they've also done to
themselves with the Derek Carr contract and what that kind
of looks like for them.
Speaker 5: It's very exciting.
Speaker 6: Like you said on air, dearing the break, to imagine
the Saints selecting your quarter back for the first time
in our lifetime. I'm about to be forty years old
and a month from today, and they've never done it, right,
They've never done it in fifty But what you say,
fifty years right, it's the number. Yes, so like none
of us three or so when none of us know it, Okay, Yeah,
that's all very very exciting. I do think this is
a player that can be successful in the NFL. I
think there is a certain ceiling there that's not going
to give him. Get him in the top five, that's fine.
But I just look at your roster and it depends
on who is available. If there is certain players in
this draft that are still available, because I think Tyler
Warren is the cleanest player in this draft. Yeah, I
think easily. You turn on the tape, there's not another
player in this draft. To me, that's a safer pick
and not safe, like you're not taking a risk because
I think his ceiling is incredibly high. So if that's
a player that's there, like, what like do you not
select Tyler Warren to select Shader Sanders.
Speaker 2: So this is kind of like Daniel Black Right in
twenty years NFL drafts from twenty two to twenty twenty three,
thirty nine of these sixty one quarterbacks picked in the
first round, So sixty four percent we're more of a
miss than a hit. So why do you keep teams?
Keep doing it right? Because it's the potential. And Jake,
I agree with you this safer path. If you're saying,
my only goal with this pick is to just for
sure make my team better, that's Tyler Warren. It's gonna
be one of these other guys. It is only it's
it's it's like gambling with quarterbacks because if you do
hit a guy, if you hit the guy, then you
are way better. It jumps you up in a way
that nothing else that nothing else can. But Shadur would
seem like one of the riskier gambles in that regard,
in terms of expecting him to do that with what
we know about his physical skill set and everything else.
But like, that's that's that's why. So yes, if you
just if you want to for sure guarantee that you're
gonna have a pick, which you know, given that the
Saints events somebody first round busts, that also matters because
that takes on added context for a guy like Tyler
Warren where they're like, no, you know, we want to
go that way because we've got to get this right. Absolutely,
But it is the only reason why this is a
conversation is because if the quarterback hits, that is a
bigger deal than anything else, even if you're still weak elsewhere,
because then you can figure it out. You go all in.
Look at like not not. I mean this is like
who was QB two last year? Jayden Daniels, Right, it's
not equal. But what I'm saying is, look what the
Commanders who've done this offseason, now that they know they
have a guy might as well. I mean, they're they're
they're they're high on their own supply, they're out here
doing everything they can all in on that team. It
is a drug for gms that is heady and you
have you you might have a chance to draft QB
two or Tyer Warren. You have a very damn good player,
Derek Carr haves success to them, and you see where
you fall next year. Though again, this is a roster
where you're probably not going to be picking that like
super super high last year. Next year maybe maybe so
maybe so.
Speaker 6: I think what they do at forty also would talk
me in or out of the pick at nine. Like
if you get Sugar Sanders at nine and Mecca a
Buka at forty, Okay, then that's a different conversation. Yeah,
it's like, okay, well you actually did take care of
a need or any of those receivers. I actually like
Trey Harris out of Little miss uh you know, true
six two, two h five receivers. So what you do
at forty who's available there? Sure I can change a
little bit of my thought process. I just if there's
a player that can help you today. Because the Saints
have not given themselves over to a rebuild, they just
have not.
Speaker 5: So if you're.
Speaker 6: Staying in line with what the front office is trying
to do, and there's a game changer outside of a
quarter back at nine, if you're staying true to what
you've done to the build up of the season, and
I think you go elsewhere and maybe look quarterback at
forty just because the Derek Carr contract situation.
Speaker 5: To me, you know you did that.
Speaker 6: That's all you You've done that, You've put yourself in
this position.
Speaker 2: Close out Hour one.
Speaker 1: Next Off the Bench, Welcome back to more sports talk.
What's some other stuff mixed in Off the Bench with
Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 2: All Righter Sheder conversation got a little bit of weaver
this year, so we're gonna have a quick segment to
wrap up this hour. Shout out to the LGI women's
basketball team, coach Moulkey landing a big time transferring Kate
Kobal six', five native of The ukraine for McDonald's All.
America was a freshman And Notre dame last. Season played
in thirty two games ten, starts averaged five and five
at fifty five. Blocks just a lot of size being
at With cobal down here in the. Boot so good
job by Coach moulky and. Company and THEN lsu basketball
with a bit of interesting news Adding Ronald dupre to
be the general manager of the. Program of, course Ron
dupre finished his career at LSU's one of the great
all time players eighth and, scoring fifth and, rebounding led
THE sec in scoring in two thousand and, one played
in THE nba for six, years played. Overseas and Then,
JAKE i, mean the guy just loves basketball because he
immediately entered scouting executive. Role he's been A bucks executive
And Milwaukee bucks signor for eight years. Now he was
most recently the director Of Global. Scouting love. THAT i,
mean maybe you start to reach overseas for some players and,
Whatnot but either, way someone who is clearly obsessed with
basketball wants to be A gm a front office, guy
and now getting that opportunity here at his alma. Mater
this is a good hire BY.
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i mean you mentioned that two thousand and one year
that he had certainly a very exciting player to watch
goes and has a long time professional.
Speaker 5: Career AND i.
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been in the front. Office, yeah with a very good
franchise with The Milwaukee.
Speaker 5: Bucks that piece of it more than.
Speaker 6: Anything, sure THE lsu tie is, great you want to
have that, there but you, know like you, Know Trey.
Speaker 5: Young's the ASSISTANT gm now At.
Speaker 6: Oklahoma Steph currs the ASSISTANT gm At, Davidson like, okay like.
Speaker 5: THAT i get.
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Playing so it's a little. Gimmicky there's nothing gimmicky about.
THIS i think this helps helshoe. Basketball this is.
Speaker 2: You you're literally hiring a damn near decade LONG nba
executive for an executive. Role, yeah it's a smart. Hire
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