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Speaker 3: Hey, give us a brief update house, family, house work,
give us some updates on your on your life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just seems like life kids busier day by day.
My kids are getting older, and I turned fifty this year.
I can't believe that I'm not old. It's driving me crazy.
But life is good. Business is good, and we're just
moving forward.
Speaker 3: Still young, in spry, uh and still still you can
still sling it, man.
Speaker 2: We saw it at the Alumni game. Just still slinging it, man.
Speaker 3: So still in great shape even in your supposed old age.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I don't I don't feel it. I appreciate
you saying that, but I don't feel like I can
still actually throw us fired off anymore.
Speaker 2: It you can't, man, you can't.
Speaker 3: You're part of the what I would deem as the
resurgence of the quarterback factory. Right, we was talking about
the quarterback Factory QBU.
Speaker 2: In the seventies and eighties and nineties.
Speaker 3: There was a ton of great quarterbacks and even into
the you know, the the late nineties, right, good quarterbacks.
A lot of NFL talent since two thousand. Okay, you've
been in you played in the league. You had John Beck,
Max Hall, Taysom Hill, Zach Wilson, Jaren Hall, Keaton Slovas,
and you may have another one in Bear Blackmer.
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3: You look at the NFL talent still coming through Brigham
in the last twenty five years, at the quarterback in
the quarterback room, I think it's an impressive number to
see how many guys have not only drafted or undrafted
free agents that actually end up playing some ball in
the NFL and being on rosters.
Speaker 4: Your thoughts, oh, man, it really is. I think if
Klawney and Aaron the most by far, in my opinion,
the best thing they've done with this program has been
to keep the coverads full of quarterbacks. This Bear Bachmeyer
get during the off season was obviously a critical, critical
get for the team, and had they not done that,
you know, the season could have been completely different. And
I've always said that as goes in the quarterbacks, so
goes the team. And there's so many reasons why I
say that, not just the way the guy plays on
the field and the way that he contributes his as
a leader, but it also has a significant impact on
the team throughout the entire twelve months of preparation going
in and man, they've done a great job with that.
And there should be there should be three or four
constantly in the cupboards and more and more coming. They
should be always, you know, offer these scholarships and getting
commitments and making sure that they've got, you know, a
full cupboard of quarterbacks in the weight and in the program.
Speaker 3: You were a part of the trajectory, the productivity, the
recruitment of I want to say, three of these guys,
John Beck, Max Hall, Taysom Hill.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about these three NFL quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: And what you saw on them when you were maybe
recruiting them, developing them, coaching them at BUYU.
Speaker 4: Well, Joan Beck has one of the most extraordinary throwing
arms ever. I mean, I think anybody that evaluated him
going into the NFL, anybody that knew him at BYU,
would say the same thing. He had such a powerfully
quick release and explosive ball that came out of his hand,
and it's really really one of the main reasons he
got drafted as high as he did because evaluating quarterbacks
throughout his class coming out, no one could throw a
better ball than he could throw. And what was fun
for me was to watch him not only be a
guy that had a strong arm and could really laser
football round, but also develop into a guy with absolute
competitive greatness, a guy that could behind in football games,
that could pick football games and win. And I don't
know all the res why he wasn't able to be
successful in the NFL, but I know that d YU.
It was really fun to see him transit from losing
records into you know, winning records at BYU and then
ultimately win a championship and win a big game at
University of Utah. So that's been fun to Max. Match
got to come in to b YU when we were winning,
and he got to experience John Beck's senior year. He
saw how we did things. He got to see a
winning culture and a winning environment. But he was so
unusual he was ineligible his freshman year at b YU.
The guy packed up his car, packed up his bags,
drove down to Las Vegas where we were, you know,
at our bowl game, and came out there and practice
on his own, basically behind the team at the practice.
Speaker 5: And it was you remember that guy, a guy that
was so anxious to play, a guy that had such
unique competitive grit, couldn't throw it like like John could
throw it, but had plenty of arm, but just had
had some unusual intangibles that when he got to the
Arizona Cardinals as an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 4: You know, because he was only six y' one and
you know, two hundred pounds and and you know, just
didn't have the tangible aspects of what most of those
guys need. Is why he didn't get drafted. It didn't
take very long before they couldn't help themselves but to
put him on the on the field eventually, because he
had that presence, demanding, demanding from the players, demanding from
the coaches, and just he wanted to put the guy
on the grass. It was so fun to coach him,
and I think he's a guy that could have played
longer had he not got injured and got into some
of the issues that he dealt with in his life
that he's you know, been fun to see him overcome
and and fight and battle is it.
Speaker 5: I think he's just.
Speaker 2: A gritty warrior.
Speaker 4: And then Taysom Hill, I don't know the BYU will
see an athlete quite like him ever at the quarterback positioning,
and he's he just not not human. I mean I
watched that guy in loafers, petty loafers and jeans standing
underneath the basket, is going into his senior year of
high school and the football coach tossed him a basketball
and he didn't even take a step. He just grabbed
the basketball and jumped straight up in the air and
two hand dunk it in the in the high school gym.
And I thought, you know, at that point, I don't
think we had done a very good job recruiting when
I was thinking we blew this a what a miss
by us, And they're enough to commit him with Stamford
to Jim Harbaugh, and he would have never come to BYU.
Had Jim Harbaugh not gone to the forty niners and
left Stanford, it was really the only reason he came.
Unfortunately he did, and BYU, you know, we were there
prepared to give him an opportunity to come to BYU.
And just an exceptional athlete but also an unusual human being.
I mean, that guy is He's just an uncommon person.
And that's why the Saints have hung on to him
as long as they have because he's just so awesome
to have in the locker room. His work ethic, his
leadership is just his persona has been so valuable to
the Saints. And he was that way at BYU.
Speaker 5: So you're talking.
Speaker 4: About three really really different quarterbacks, different athletes, but guys
that in their own way were able to be you know,
produce victories for BYU. They're so fun for fans, I think,
to see different styles of play and different people do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all three super unique quarterbacks and winning in different
ways and finding their role in the NFL as well.
So you know, you look at that that grouping, right,
and you're a part of that group as well as
a great quarterback in that era from like two thousand,
you know, and I know Tisum ended up in I
think his final season with twenty and sixteen, but four
quarterbacks over that period of time pretty good. That's a
quarterback factory going to the NFL. You know, it takes,
it's the one percent. It's hard to get there and
it's hard to stick there. Then you have you know,
from you know two thousand and twenty there was a
little bit of a drop right, and then you have
twenty twenty to present day and you've had Zach Wilson,
Jaron Hall, Keaton Slovis. It feels like the quarterback factory
is reinvigorated now.
Speaker 2: And and what would you attribute that to specifically?
Speaker 4: I would attribute it to Kolane. He understands it. He
knows it, He's lived in it. He was raised as
a player and as a coach in the quarterback factory.
He knows the culture. I watch him manage the quarterback
and I'm manage the culture of the team to enable
the quarterback to be successful. And I think it takes
a unique head coach and a unique culture to create
that for your quarterback, and BYU is under the leadership
of a head football coach that knows how to develop
the culture for quarterbacks to succeed and it's really fun
to see that. And the one thing that's been unique
about BYU over the last five six years, and I
think it's also attributed to these quarterbacks success. And I
can say it for myself personally, I would also say
it for Max and John. I didn't really get the
coach the very much. But the run game has been
established and has.
Speaker 2: Been really good.
Speaker 4: And when the run game is solid, and you've got
a running back and we've had some running back Luke
Staley with me and we had Rbi Long. I'm sorry
Barby Una, and you look at what they've had over
the last few years. You're talking about NFL studs and
Jamal Williams, so on and so forth. That has had
as much of an impact on the success of these
quarterbacks than anything. And then I would add one other
component on that. You know, BYU needs to continue to
mate for and I think they've had some mishaps here
a little bit over the last a little while and they're
getting in and they've it looks like they're you know,
they've been resolving it and Carsion Ryan really helped this year.
They have got to do a better job at making
sure they have a covered of tight ends that are
pass catching, route running bulldogs. Right, and if they can
establish tight end factory, quarterback factory, and a run game
the way they've been able to last a little while,
they're going to be able to they're gonna be able
to play in this league and be successful. And the
b a U in their very best years when the
quarterbacks were great and the team the combination of quarterback
being great and the team being great, you had those
three components. You had had great tight ends, great running
backs and a quarterback that can facilitate the ball round
and in the times when it hasn't been as good
as because those other components weren't.
Speaker 3: There, Yeah, the tight end room, right, it's important to
bring in great clay and develop that clay and utilize
that clay. There has been for some you know the
perception of like this this undulation.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't.
Speaker 3: In the era that you coached at BYU, you know,
I mean, man, we had a slew of guys Johnny
hart leand and Coats obviously, then Dennis Pitta Andrew George.
Speaker 2: Those were high times.
Speaker 3: The crew that you played with, it always seemed like
the elite BYU football teams had twelve personnel employed this last.
Speaker 2: Year and even the year prior.
Speaker 3: You know, there was some twelve personnel, but it seemed
like there was maybe like one tight end that was
really good, maybe a fullback there's more as a blocking guy,
and then then receiving type. You know, you look at
Carson Ryan, he had a pretty stand up year. He
was one of the He was the highest graded tight
end per Pro Football Focus forty five reception, six hundred
and twenty yards and three touchdowns. B YU went out
and got Walker Lions Ryder Lions older brother from USC
and then Roger sali Apago, the second and Oorum product
that was at Oregon the last couple of years. Is
the ideal this day and age to have like an
eleven personnel base formation or is it still twelve personnel?
You know, tapping into the BYU ways of old.
Speaker 4: BYU is a run first offense and so being able
to have a twelve personnel with tight ends that can flex.
And we know this is BYU fans because we've had
to defend University of Utah over the last handful of years.
They have done a phenomenal job of having two tight
ends in the program that can really really go, and
they adopted that style. They're not dummies up there, and
they did a great job. And I think BYU is
working their tails off to regroup in that area. And
I'm not saying that they haven't had some good players,
they haven't been full. And when a tight end is great,
he can attach himself to the line of scrimmage in
a three point stance, he can stand up and be
a single receiver, ball catcher, route runner, and then he
can get into a flex position and still being a
twelve personnel but in a route running stand up position.
And that's hard for the defense because defenses are often
based on personnel grouping and the defensive coordinator doesn't have
to come in to try and determine what's gonna happen.
So he's looking at personnel grouping and they're looking at
statistics and then they're making making a call. And if
twelve personnel can line up in multiple varieties of formations
and be route running, you know, really really tough route runners,
now you're now you're really hard to defend. And b
YU couldn't do that last year. They could not do that,
and that was hard. And if they got a couple
of guys that can can can get into attached and
flex situations and run routes, they're gonna be They're gonna
be even that much better on offense this year.
Speaker 2: I would love to see it.
Speaker 3: Some nice acquisitions in the portal this ostas, but they've
been strategic right, not a whole lot of attrition and
not a ton of acquisition. I think they're in the
low teens in both you know, ten third between ten
and thirteen acquisition about ten and thirteen.
Speaker 2: You know attritions.
Speaker 3: What does that say about the direction that this Bway
football program is going right?
Speaker 4: It means the players love the university, they love the
head coach, they love the culture of the team. But
it also means that they're being able to there. There's
an nil support there and they're able to pay them
because many of these guys wouldn't stay. It's just the
nature of the beast. And as much as they love
the culture and they love the team and they love
the head coach, they got an opportunity to get paid.
And many of these guys would have left had they
not been able to receive at least the market value
for who they are in NIL. So you add all
that together and BYUS established an environment where they're not
losing players. And this offseason was throughly, truly, I think,
a solid look into what's really going on there, and
I think it bodes well for BYU in the future
to see that even though we lost a coordinator and
you know, winning him going to the Michigan by you
held strong and didn't get dismantled. And I think there's
a lot of people that were worried about that, and like,
for example, to see our defensive guys hang in there
and some awesome players hang in there when a coach
that they love left, It just really bodes well for
the future of this program. It makes you feel makes
you feel good as a fan that these guys would
stick around.
Speaker 2: Well that breakdown.
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