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Thank you? 54 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: Get you hooked up with that number one. 55 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:24,439 Speaker 3: Hey, give us a brief update house, family, house work, 56 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:27,080 give us some updates on your on your life. 57 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just seems like life kids busier day by day. 58 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:35,639 My kids are getting older, and I turned fifty this year. 59 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,120 I can't believe that I'm not old. It's driving me crazy. 60 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,000 But life is good. Business is good, and we're just 61 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,840 moving forward. 62 00:02:42,439 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: Still young, in spry, uh and still still you can 63 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,400 still sling it, man. 64 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,719 Speaker 2: We saw it at the Alumni game. Just still slinging it, man. 65 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,039 Speaker 3: So still in great shape even in your supposed old age. 66 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: Oh man, I don't I don't feel it. I appreciate 67 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:58,680 you saying that, but I don't feel like I can 68 00:02:58,719 --> 00:03:01,479 still actually throw us fired off anymore. 69 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,879 Speaker 2: It you can't, man, you can't. 70 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:06,319 Speaker 3: You're part of the what I would deem as the 71 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,520 resurgence of the quarterback factory. Right, we was talking about 72 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,919 the quarterback Factory QBU. 73 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: In the seventies and eighties and nineties. 74 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,039 Speaker 3: There was a ton of great quarterbacks and even into 75 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,680 the you know, the the late nineties, right, good quarterbacks. 76 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:26,280 A lot of NFL talent since two thousand. Okay, you've 77 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:29,960 been in you played in the league. You had John Beck, 78 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:39,199 Max Hall, Taysom Hill, Zach Wilson, Jaren Hall, Keaton Slovas, 79 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,719 and you may have another one in Bear Blackmer. 80 00:03:41,759 --> 00:03:42,879 Speaker 2: I think that's pretty impressive. 81 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: You look at the NFL talent still coming through Brigham 82 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,039 in the last twenty five years, at the quarterback in 83 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,960 the quarterback room, I think it's an impressive number to 84 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,240 see how many guys have not only drafted or undrafted 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,759 free agents that actually end up playing some ball in 86 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,439 the NFL and being on rosters. 87 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: Your thoughts, oh, man, it really is. I think if 88 00:04:02,759 --> 00:04:06,680 Klawney and Aaron the most by far, in my opinion, 89 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:08,560 the best thing they've done with this program has been 90 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,800 to keep the coverads full of quarterbacks. This Bear Bachmeyer 91 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:15,960 get during the off season was obviously a critical, critical 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,759 get for the team, and had they not done that, 93 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,319 you know, the season could have been completely different. And 94 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,079 I've always said that as goes in the quarterbacks, so 95 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,839 goes the team. And there's so many reasons why I 96 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,079 say that, not just the way the guy plays on 97 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 the field and the way that he contributes his as 98 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,600 a leader, but it also has a significant impact on 99 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:37,360 the team throughout the entire twelve months of preparation going 100 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:41,000 in and man, they've done a great job with that. 101 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,759 And there should be there should be three or four 102 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,800 constantly in the cupboards and more and more coming. They 103 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,639 should be always, you know, offer these scholarships and getting 104 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:55,199 commitments and making sure that they've got, you know, a 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,079 full cupboard of quarterbacks in the weight and in the program. 106 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: You were a part of the trajectory, the productivity, the 107 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:08,040 recruitment of I want to say, three of these guys, 108 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 John Beck, Max Hall, Taysom Hill. 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about these three NFL quarterbacks. 110 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: And what you saw on them when you were maybe 111 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,680 recruiting them, developing them, coaching them at BUYU. 112 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: Well, Joan Beck has one of the most extraordinary throwing 113 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,279 arms ever. I mean, I think anybody that evaluated him 114 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:35,199 going into the NFL, anybody that knew him at BYU, 115 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,160 would say the same thing. He had such a powerfully 116 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,600 quick release and explosive ball that came out of his hand, 117 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,279 and it's really really one of the main reasons he 118 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:48,759 got drafted as high as he did because evaluating quarterbacks 119 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,160 throughout his class coming out, no one could throw a 120 00:05:52,199 --> 00:05:54,920 better ball than he could throw. And what was fun 121 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,839 for me was to watch him not only be a 122 00:05:57,879 --> 00:05:59,920 guy that had a strong arm and could really laser 123 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,160 football round, but also develop into a guy with absolute 124 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,120 competitive greatness, a guy that could behind in football games, 125 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,040 that could pick football games and win. And I don't 126 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,480 know all the res why he wasn't able to be 127 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:18,079 successful in the NFL, but I know that d YU. 128 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,519 It was really fun to see him transit from losing 129 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:24,800 records into you know, winning records at BYU and then 130 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:27,160 ultimately win a championship and win a big game at 131 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:32,560 University of Utah. So that's been fun to Max. Match 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,079 got to come in to b YU when we were winning, 133 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:40,000 and he got to experience John Beck's senior year. He 134 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:42,240 saw how we did things. He got to see a 135 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,079 winning culture and a winning environment. But he was so 136 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:48,879 unusual he was ineligible his freshman year at b YU. 137 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:52,319 The guy packed up his car, packed up his bags, 138 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:55,439 drove down to Las Vegas where we were, you know, 139 00:06:55,519 --> 00:07:01,120 at our bowl game, and came out there and practice 140 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,360 on his own, basically behind the team at the practice. 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 5: And it was you remember that guy, a guy that 142 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,720 was so anxious to play, a guy that had such 143 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:16,319 unique competitive grit, couldn't throw it like like John could 144 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:19,600 throw it, but had plenty of arm, but just had 145 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:23,319 had some unusual intangibles that when he got to the 146 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:26,800 Arizona Cardinals as an undrafted free agent. 147 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,439 Speaker 4: You know, because he was only six y' one and 148 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,519 you know, two hundred pounds and and you know, just 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,879 didn't have the tangible aspects of what most of those 150 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:38,000 guys need. Is why he didn't get drafted. It didn't 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,399 take very long before they couldn't help themselves but to 152 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:45,439 put him on the on the field eventually, because he 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,240 had that presence, demanding, demanding from the players, demanding from 154 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:53,319 the coaches, and just he wanted to put the guy 155 00:07:53,319 --> 00:07:55,279 on the grass. It was so fun to coach him, 156 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,480 and I think he's a guy that could have played 157 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:01,639 longer had he not got injured and got into some 158 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,959 of the issues that he dealt with in his life 159 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,680 that he's you know, been fun to see him overcome 160 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,079 and and fight and battle is it. 161 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 5: I think he's just. 162 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: A gritty warrior. 163 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:16,199 Speaker 4: And then Taysom Hill, I don't know the BYU will 164 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,319 see an athlete quite like him ever at the quarterback positioning, 165 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,800 and he's he just not not human. I mean I 166 00:08:23,839 --> 00:08:27,680 watched that guy in loafers, petty loafers and jeans standing 167 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,720 underneath the basket, is going into his senior year of 168 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:34,519 high school and the football coach tossed him a basketball 169 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,799 and he didn't even take a step. He just grabbed 170 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:39,200 the basketball and jumped straight up in the air and 171 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,840 two hand dunk it in the in the high school gym. 172 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:46,320 And I thought, you know, at that point, I don't 173 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,279 think we had done a very good job recruiting when 174 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,759 I was thinking we blew this a what a miss 175 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,559 by us, And they're enough to commit him with Stamford 176 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:57,759 to Jim Harbaugh, and he would have never come to BYU. 177 00:08:57,799 --> 00:09:00,600 Had Jim Harbaugh not gone to the forty niners and 178 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:06,039 left Stanford, it was really the only reason he came. 179 00:09:06,159 --> 00:09:08,840 Unfortunately he did, and BYU, you know, we were there 180 00:09:10,039 --> 00:09:13,960 prepared to give him an opportunity to come to BYU. 181 00:09:14,039 --> 00:09:21,519 And just an exceptional athlete but also an unusual human being. 182 00:09:21,639 --> 00:09:25,480 I mean, that guy is He's just an uncommon person. 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,360 And that's why the Saints have hung on to him 184 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,360 as long as they have because he's just so awesome 185 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:35,320 to have in the locker room. His work ethic, his 186 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,519 leadership is just his persona has been so valuable to 187 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,919 the Saints. And he was that way at BYU. 188 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 5: So you're talking. 189 00:09:43,879 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: About three really really different quarterbacks, different athletes, but guys 190 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:53,440 that in their own way were able to be you know, 191 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,720 produce victories for BYU. They're so fun for fans, I think, 192 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:59,559 to see different styles of play and different people do it. 193 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, all three super unique quarterbacks and winning in different 194 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:08,840 ways and finding their role in the NFL as well. 195 00:10:08,919 --> 00:10:11,879 So you know, you look at that that grouping, right, 196 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:14,679 and you're a part of that group as well as 197 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,360 a great quarterback in that era from like two thousand, 198 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,000 you know, and I know Tisum ended up in I 199 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,159 think his final season with twenty and sixteen, but four 200 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,360 quarterbacks over that period of time pretty good. That's a 201 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,559 quarterback factory going to the NFL. You know, it takes, 202 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:34,320 it's the one percent. It's hard to get there and 203 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,679 it's hard to stick there. Then you have you know, 204 00:10:36,759 --> 00:10:39,440 from you know two thousand and twenty there was a 205 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,080 little bit of a drop right, and then you have 206 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,080 twenty twenty to present day and you've had Zach Wilson, 207 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,159 Jaron Hall, Keaton Slovis. It feels like the quarterback factory 208 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,080 is reinvigorated now. 209 00:10:54,799 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: And and what would you attribute that to specifically? 210 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,519 Speaker 4: I would attribute it to Kolane. He understands it. He 211 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:09,080 knows it, He's lived in it. He was raised as 212 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:12,960 a player and as a coach in the quarterback factory. 213 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:19,639 He knows the culture. I watch him manage the quarterback 214 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,559 and I'm manage the culture of the team to enable 215 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,360 the quarterback to be successful. And I think it takes 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,320 a unique head coach and a unique culture to create 217 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,519 that for your quarterback, and BYU is under the leadership 218 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,840 of a head football coach that knows how to develop 219 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,840 the culture for quarterbacks to succeed and it's really fun 220 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,799 to see that. And the one thing that's been unique 221 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:48,679 about BYU over the last five six years, and I 222 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,480 think it's also attributed to these quarterbacks success. And I 223 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,360 can say it for myself personally, I would also say 224 00:11:56,399 --> 00:11:59,559 it for Max and John. I didn't really get the 225 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:04,120 coach the very much. But the run game has been 226 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:05,919 established and has. 227 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:06,639 Speaker 2: Been really good. 228 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: And when the run game is solid, and you've got 229 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,759 a running back and we've had some running back Luke 230 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,039 Staley with me and we had Rbi Long. I'm sorry 231 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:19,320 Barby Una, and you look at what they've had over 232 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,559 the last few years. You're talking about NFL studs and 233 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,919 Jamal Williams, so on and so forth. That has had 234 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,039 as much of an impact on the success of these 235 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,399 quarterbacks than anything. And then I would add one other 236 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,279 component on that. You know, BYU needs to continue to 237 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:44,200 mate for and I think they've had some mishaps here 238 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,759 a little bit over the last a little while and they're 239 00:12:45,759 --> 00:12:48,000 getting in and they've it looks like they're you know, 240 00:12:48,039 --> 00:12:50,720 they've been resolving it and Carsion Ryan really helped this year. 241 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,639 They have got to do a better job at making 242 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,200 sure they have a covered of tight ends that are 243 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:03,000 pass catching, route running bulldogs. Right, and if they can 244 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,480 establish tight end factory, quarterback factory, and a run game 245 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,559 the way they've been able to last a little while, 246 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,840 they're going to be able to they're gonna be able 247 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,919 to play in this league and be successful. And the 248 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120 b a U in their very best years when the 249 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,639 quarterbacks were great and the team the combination of quarterback 250 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,440 being great and the team being great, you had those 251 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,679 three components. You had had great tight ends, great running 252 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,200 backs and a quarterback that can facilitate the ball round 253 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:35,480 and in the times when it hasn't been as good 254 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,480 as because those other components weren't. 255 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: There, Yeah, the tight end room, right, it's important to 256 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,279 bring in great clay and develop that clay and utilize 257 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,919 that clay. There has been for some you know the 258 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,960 perception of like this this undulation. 259 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. 260 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,399 Speaker 3: In the era that you coached at BYU, you know, 261 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,759 I mean, man, we had a slew of guys Johnny 262 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:04,399 hart leand and Coats obviously, then Dennis Pitta Andrew George. 263 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:05,399 Speaker 2: Those were high times. 264 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: The crew that you played with, it always seemed like 265 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:14,200 the elite BYU football teams had twelve personnel employed this last. 266 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,879 Speaker 2: Year and even the year prior. 267 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: You know, there was some twelve personnel, but it seemed 268 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,279 like there was maybe like one tight end that was 269 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,919 really good, maybe a fullback there's more as a blocking guy, 270 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,480 and then then receiving type. You know, you look at 271 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,279 Carson Ryan, he had a pretty stand up year. He 272 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,080 was one of the He was the highest graded tight 273 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:35,159 end per Pro Football Focus forty five reception, six hundred 274 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,879 and twenty yards and three touchdowns. B YU went out 275 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:41,120 and got Walker Lions Ryder Lions older brother from USC 276 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,080 and then Roger sali Apago, the second and Oorum product 277 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,600 that was at Oregon the last couple of years. Is 278 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:49,960 the ideal this day and age to have like an 279 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,399 eleven personnel base formation or is it still twelve personnel? 280 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,200 You know, tapping into the BYU ways of old. 281 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: BYU is a run first offense and so being able 282 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,960 to have a twelve personnel with tight ends that can flex. 283 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,360 And we know this is BYU fans because we've had 284 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,360 to defend University of Utah over the last handful of years. 285 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:19,039 They have done a phenomenal job of having two tight 286 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:21,639 ends in the program that can really really go, and 287 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:28,120 they adopted that style. They're not dummies up there, and 288 00:15:28,159 --> 00:15:31,600 they did a great job. And I think BYU is 289 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:34,320 working their tails off to regroup in that area. And 290 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:37,039 I'm not saying that they haven't had some good players, 291 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:40,279 they haven't been full. And when a tight end is great, 292 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,799 he can attach himself to the line of scrimmage in 293 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,519 a three point stance, he can stand up and be 294 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,000 a single receiver, ball catcher, route runner, and then he 295 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:53,639 can get into a flex position and still being a 296 00:15:53,679 --> 00:15:57,200 twelve personnel but in a route running stand up position. 297 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,279 And that's hard for the defense because defenses are often 298 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,080 based on personnel grouping and the defensive coordinator doesn't have 299 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,720 to come in to try and determine what's gonna happen. 300 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:09,720 So he's looking at personnel grouping and they're looking at 301 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:13,120 statistics and then they're making making a call. And if 302 00:16:13,399 --> 00:16:17,039 twelve personnel can line up in multiple varieties of formations 303 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:21,919 and be route running, you know, really really tough route runners, 304 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,279 now you're now you're really hard to defend. And b 305 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:31,240 YU couldn't do that last year. They could not do that, 306 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:33,399 and that was hard. And if they got a couple 307 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:36,279 of guys that can can can get into attached and 308 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,639 flex situations and run routes, they're gonna be They're gonna 309 00:16:39,639 --> 00:16:42,000 be even that much better on offense this year. 310 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,559 Speaker 2: I would love to see it. 311 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: Some nice acquisitions in the portal this ostas, but they've 312 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,440 been strategic right, not a whole lot of attrition and 313 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:54,679 not a ton of acquisition. I think they're in the 314 00:16:54,759 --> 00:16:58,360 low teens in both you know, ten third between ten 315 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,679 and thirteen acquisition about ten and thirteen. 316 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: You know attritions. 317 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: What does that say about the direction that this Bway 318 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,799 football program is going right? 319 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,279 Speaker 4: It means the players love the university, they love the 320 00:17:15,279 --> 00:17:20,400 head coach, they love the culture of the team. But 321 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,559 it also means that they're being able to there. There's 322 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:25,880 an nil support there and they're able to pay them 323 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:28,920 because many of these guys wouldn't stay. It's just the 324 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:31,720 nature of the beast. And as much as they love 325 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:33,839 the culture and they love the team and they love 326 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,880 the head coach, they got an opportunity to get paid. 327 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:40,240 And many of these guys would have left had they 328 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:43,720 not been able to receive at least the market value 329 00:17:43,759 --> 00:17:46,720 for who they are in NIL. So you add all 330 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,880 that together and BYUS established an environment where they're not 331 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:58,079 losing players. And this offseason was throughly, truly, I think, 332 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,880 a solid look into what's really going on there, and 333 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,000 I think it bodes well for BYU in the future 334 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:09,839 to see that even though we lost a coordinator and 335 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,000 you know, winning him going to the Michigan by you 336 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:15,759 held strong and didn't get dismantled. And I think there's 337 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:18,720 a lot of people that were worried about that, and like, 338 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:23,839 for example, to see our defensive guys hang in there 339 00:18:24,079 --> 00:18:27,920 and some awesome players hang in there when a coach 340 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,400 that they love left, It just really bodes well for 341 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,599 the future of this program. It makes you feel makes 342 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:36,640 you feel good as a fan that these guys would 343 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,160 stick around. 344 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: Well that breakdown. 345 00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:44,079 Speaker 3: Brandon Doman former BYU great Always love talking ball with you. 346 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: I want to invite everyone. 347 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: To check out the products that you do distribute all 348 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,000 manner of products. You're the co owner and CEO of 349 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:57,640 Elite Products operating divisions, Way Safe, the Dominator, which I 350 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,279 see everywhere in Utah County, everywhere in the state of 351 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,000 View out Land a corp Eleaite Manufacturing you're a busy 352 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:04,839 man these days. 353 00:19:06,319 --> 00:19:08,319 Speaker 4: It has been so fun to be a part of 354 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,559 this with my brother Bryce and the people that work 355 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:16,480 with us and partners that we do business with. And 356 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,519 you know, you stay at it long enough and hopefully 357 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:24,599 develop products and services that that you know people need 358 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,799 and want, and then you develop those kinds of relationships. 359 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:29,880 Been really fun. But I appreciate you saying that, Ben, 360 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,559 We we hopefully are just getting started and continue to develop. 361 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,799 You know, you don't be a support to the community 362 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,640 as we continue to grow. But it's been really fun. 363 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:40,519 Speaker 3: Hey, you're doing great work, man. I always appreciate our 364 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:42,799 time together. Thanks for hopping on to talk some Cougar 365 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:44,960 football with me today, brother, and then I'm gonna loop 366 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,480 you in with with Brighton Day to get you a 367 00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:48,640 new sports performance suit. 368 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: All right, loop me in. 369 00:19:50,599 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 370 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: Ben. 371 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: Hey much love to you. 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