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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>I typically don't discuss the details of my past work

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<v Speaker 2>because some of us kind of, you know, fairly general.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the most interesting part of my career

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<v Speaker 2>was the work as a program director for a conference

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<v Speaker 2>called Whole lifeex But we were based in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>but we did and held about seven to eight conferences

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<v Speaker 2>around the United States. And one of the roles that

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<v Speaker 2>I played was evaluating new topics from a variety a

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<v Speaker 2>wide variety of content. A lot of it's faded and

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<v Speaker 2>it's considered new aged. But it's funny to think that

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<v Speaker 2>there are so many topics that are morphed into new things.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the topics is the aura. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be featuring the aura today with a physician

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<v Speaker 2>from Germany who has taken the whole idea of aura

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<v Speaker 2>into an area that I have just never conceived of.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we go to that, I just wanted to bring

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<v Speaker 2>up the fact that this isn't new to me and

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<v Speaker 2>I had to evaluate for years. I had to evaluate

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<v Speaker 2>people who had wanted to speak in lectures or workshops,

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<v Speaker 2>or I had everything for people channeling animals. It come

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<v Speaker 2>through their body and they would take on the channel

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<v Speaker 2>material where people were bringing in the dearly departed people,

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<v Speaker 2>aliens channeling aliens channeling well known people and not so

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<v Speaker 2>well known people who are who were coming across to

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<v Speaker 2>express themselves and let us know that we need to

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<v Speaker 2>do things differently. Wellness was a huge topic. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>everything from cancer research, vitamin therapy, nutritional research, personal growth,

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<v Speaker 2>which cuts across a huge industry and it's still very

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<v Speaker 2>viable today. At the end of the days when we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing the tours, we had people like Wayne Dyer,

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Ann Williamson, Deepak Chopra, I mean Redfield, all these people,

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<v Speaker 2>people who are now not in the same vogue as

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<v Speaker 2>they were, but still prominent in their research.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it, and I was trying to be open

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<v Speaker 2>minded as much as I can. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>it was challenging for me. And I'm not a religious person.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't that I was necessarily revolted or unhappy

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<v Speaker 2>or felt that they weren't ready to be placed on

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<v Speaker 2>stage to give a lecture, workshop or intensive. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just that a lot of it was just coming forth

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<v Speaker 2>out of any place, you know. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 2>just like whatever you could think of was placed on stage,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or they were looking for an audience. Today's

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<v Speaker 2>program is on auras, and auras have always been of

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<v Speaker 2>interest to my to me because the Maya and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of indigenous people understand the aura and work with

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<v Speaker 2>it in a healing manner. I work with it to

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<v Speaker 2>be strengthened. Some shaman can discern through looking at the aura,

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<v Speaker 2>what is happening to a person's body, mind, and spirit,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is important, and we don't really pay attention

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<v Speaker 2>to the aura unless you're dealing with somebody who is

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<v Speaker 2>psychic awareness, and somebody whose psychic can actually peer and

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<v Speaker 2>look at the aura and see what's going on. About

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<v Speaker 2>two decades ago, a scientist developed an aura camera, and

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<v Speaker 2>you might have seen pictures of people putting their fingers

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<v Speaker 2>on this piece of metal and they could actually take

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<v Speaker 2>a photograph of it. There's other cameras that are bigger

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<v Speaker 2>that can take like a halo shot of your head.

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<v Speaker 2>But it really hasn't gotten much further than that, because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously it's a big investment to build a whole machine.

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<v Speaker 2>But at some point you would think that they would

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<v Speaker 2>do something like that. Today's program is with an md

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<v Speaker 2>N allopath who has discovered through research that he can actually,

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<v Speaker 2>he can actually determine a person's wellness, mental, body, mind,

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<v Speaker 2>and spirit through a series of questions and many of

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<v Speaker 2>them are karmic. And this is what's kind of compelling

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<v Speaker 2>about the show today, is that a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>according to him, are dealing with karmic problems, past lives,

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<v Speaker 2>ancestors who did terrible things, and they haven't cleaned it

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<v Speaker 2>up yet. And he actually shows how to clear your aura.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got case studies of people who actually improve

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<v Speaker 2>their life, improve their health, improve their wellness by clearing

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<v Speaker 2>their field. Now, the title of the book that we're

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<v Speaker 2>featuring today is called Aura Surgery, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a misnomer because he's not actually cutting into people, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's clearing and he's clearing out these pockets of karmic

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<v Speaker 2>patterns that are influencing people in a profound manner. And

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<v Speaker 2>so this is something that really takes us to the

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<v Speaker 2>next level. We didn't have anything like this twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was a program director. It was more sensing

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<v Speaker 2>your aura, sensing what's going on with your aura, and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to improve the aura. This work that we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>discussing today actually identifies the oric patterns and then it

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<v Speaker 2>identifies the problems that are in the oric fields. So

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<v Speaker 2>this might sound we will do a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>but we had to be open minded and this is

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<v Speaker 2>what we have a variety of interesting people on destiny,

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<v Speaker 2>Destinies or the Anxious Little Sister. The other part is

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of these programs on destiny are complement

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<v Speaker 2>to Earth agents. And you know what I mean. That

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<v Speaker 2>means that our ancestors use these techniques. Our ancestors didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have machinery, so they used the body as a tuning

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<v Speaker 2>fork to tune in higher frequencies for health, for wellness

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<v Speaker 2>and so on. So today's program is or a surgery

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<v Speaker 2>healing comic patterns and unconscious conflicts in the human energy field.

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<v Speaker 2>And my guest today from Germany is doctor Matthias Kuhnlin.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of us have heard the term aura and here

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States there's people that work with auras

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<v Speaker 2>and there's aura cameras that have been around for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a former program director, I remember going and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing conferences where there were exhibits that could capture the aura.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how valid those were, but it's still

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<v Speaker 2>of a great interest. Today we're speaking with a doctor

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<v Speaker 2>who has developed a practice of oral surgery and this

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<v Speaker 2>is something that's brand new to my mind. And he

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<v Speaker 2>has written a book called Aura Surgery, Healing, Comic Patterns

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<v Speaker 2>and Unconscious Conflicts in the Human Energy Field. My guest

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<v Speaker 2>today is Matthias Kunlan and he's a doctor of neurology,

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<v Speaker 2>founder of the Institute of Aura Surgery, and he practices

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<v Speaker 2>near Munich, Germany. So we're gonna learn about this today.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna learn just exactly what is this all about

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<v Speaker 2>and the practical application of aura surgery. So but Tias,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Destiny.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Cliff, thank you for the invitation. I'm pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to the United States. And yeah, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the new book. I'm very proud and happy that

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<v Speaker 1>i can publish a book in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get some background on this. What is

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<v Speaker 2>the history of this? In other words, how did you

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<v Speaker 2>come about developing it? And I'll ask you a two

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<v Speaker 2>part question. We do know that people like Edgar Casey

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<v Speaker 2>spoke about aura energy light healing in a place called Atlantis.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, he was a great psychic and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get too much into that, but is there

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<v Speaker 2>a history behind your discovery of this? Did you uncover

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<v Speaker 2>it through research or how does this come to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the history is quite practical. It was the aching

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<v Speaker 1>the pain of the back of my wife. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the history all about. My wife, Christina had a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with her back. She had a lumber spine protrusion of

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<v Speaker 1>her disc pressing on her spinal nerve, causing pain all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And that was for many years, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a neurologist I did everything I could do that time.

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<v Speaker 1>We found out by m or Ai that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a disc pru protrusion and one could exactly see whoe

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<v Speaker 1>the problem was and which problem it was. So from

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<v Speaker 1>the diagnostic point of view, everything was fine, but the

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<v Speaker 1>therapy did not work out. That was the problem. We

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<v Speaker 1>tried a lot of different things, physiotherapy, osteopathy and much more.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no indication for an operation, so we had

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<v Speaker 1>no real good solution for our problem. And simply by chance,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife Christine is a journalist, she found out that

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<v Speaker 1>there is something like called aura surgurgery. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>therapist in Switzerland who practices that, and well, she was

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<v Speaker 1>curious and simply tried what this would if this would

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<v Speaker 1>succeed with her, and she traveled to United States and

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<v Speaker 1>it was one session of one hour. And since that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is now more than ten years ago, well,

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<v Speaker 1>everything was gone, every pain was gone. She could again

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<v Speaker 1>live her former life, she could go to sports to

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<v Speaker 1>do her sport activities. So that was a huge, very

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<v Speaker 1>impressive situation that time. And that was the time when

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<v Speaker 1>I started thinking if my conventional approaches were always right,

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<v Speaker 1>or if there is something else between earth and the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>which if there is another perspective, this informational perspective, which

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<v Speaker 1>could lead to the success.

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<v Speaker 2>So your wife had a herniated disk and after.

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<v Speaker 1>Once so fated it was just a protrusion, not so

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<v Speaker 1>far a prolapse, but it was a protrusion. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum variant of a disk problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she was in significant pain. I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>when she did certain activities and movements.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, yeah, right, and yes please yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And did she how long had she had this condition?

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<v Speaker 1>Well it was round about for four years, amazing, And we,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned, we tried everything from the therapeutical point

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<v Speaker 1>of view. There was nothing which really succeeded. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a short relief, but after some time it came back.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there was no therapeutic approach which really worked out,

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<v Speaker 1>and just this or a surgical treatment succeeded. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was just once and one our treatment. And since then

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<v Speaker 1>that was again that problem. And then I started to

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<v Speaker 1>study a little bit about that method, and I found

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<v Speaker 1>out that our seminars, well one could learn this method.

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<v Speaker 1>And I traveled to Switzerland a couple of times and

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<v Speaker 1>well learned it from the scratch. How to what things

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<v Speaker 1>are important? How is this working? It is more or

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<v Speaker 1>less information medicine. And we are living in the age

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<v Speaker 1>of information technology. But we understand so for just information

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<v Speaker 1>in the context of computers, but everything is information, also

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<v Speaker 1>the biological systems or information, and it is disruptive information

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<v Speaker 1>which we carry with us, which we inherit from our ancestors,

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<v Speaker 1>coming from different things. Maybe I can tell afterwards a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, for example, is the flight escape from former times,

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<v Speaker 1>war times and so on, This is all in us

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<v Speaker 1>as disruptive information. That this causes problems psycho emotional problems,

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<v Speaker 1>but also somatic problems and illnesses.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk a bit about talk a bit Matthias about classically

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<v Speaker 2>trained medicine, which is what you are. You're a allopath,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is very This is a great deal of reasoning.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you cross over into this aura medicine, which

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<v Speaker 2>is totally off the books, is illogical according to most

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<v Speaker 2>all paths, and would be rejected by the universities who

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<v Speaker 2>teach doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think yes. Well, concerning the if we stick

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<v Speaker 1>to the example of this lumber spine problem, the regular

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<v Speaker 1>treatment would be an orgetic medication and well then physiotherapy

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<v Speaker 1>in order to try to train the body to strengthen

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<v Speaker 1>the muscles. That everything is ameliorating again. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>not the point, because this is just a symptom related treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>One has to ask, is there an information behind and

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<v Speaker 1>behind any disease? I've found out now during this well

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<v Speaker 1>ten years I'm practicing or researchery in the meantime, I

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<v Speaker 1>found out that every disease there is a disruptive information

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<v Speaker 1>and if there is a cleo logic behind all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So knowing which oregon is ill or affected, one can

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<v Speaker 1>immediately say what information have to be looked for some

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<v Speaker 1>disruptive information and concerning for example, the lumber spine or

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<v Speaker 1>always the question of so called devaluation conflicts. So this

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<v Speaker 1>person must have suffered a devaluation conflict in different context,

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<v Speaker 1>is either private or in his profession. And behind these

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<v Speaker 1>conflicts there are the so called chromic patterns. These are

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<v Speaker 1>the basic patterns we inherit from our answers, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are round about eighty chromic patterns described. I have written

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<v Speaker 1>several books in the meantime, textbooks Textbook of Reseurgery, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're around about eighty chromic patterns, and we inherit

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<v Speaker 1>them from our ancestors. And the most common and the

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<v Speaker 1>most often found charmic pattern is the so called slave yoke,

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<v Speaker 1>and this comes from the history of human society. Slavery

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<v Speaker 1>always has been a big thing in history of mankind,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a disruptive information many people carry around.

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<v Speaker 1>And every chromic pattern has its specific symptoms. And for example,

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<v Speaker 1>He is devaluated by his colleagues or by his friends

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<v Speaker 1>because he well represents a slave to the outer world.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets humiliated, he gets devaluated and This is not

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<v Speaker 1>just by a chance. This is the consequent, the consequence

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<v Speaker 1>of his burden with that slave yoke. People with a

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<v Speaker 1>slave yoke don't like speaking in front of many people.

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<v Speaker 1>They always feel some pressure online on their shoulders, they

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<v Speaker 1>have neck pain, They sometimes have problems with their spine,

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<v Speaker 1>aching pain in their spine. And yes, so they are

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<v Speaker 1>always working. They can stop working. They always dependent in

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<v Speaker 1>their lifestyle that depends on other people. They are not

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<v Speaker 1>self determined. So this is all typical symptoms of this

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<v Speaker 1>chronic pattern of the slave yoke. And every of these

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<v Speaker 1>eighty described patterns has its specific collection of symptoms.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to talk a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 2>framework for oral surgery or surgery excuse me, and the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of a morphogenic field. Talk about the morphogenic field,

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<v Speaker 2>please well.

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<v Speaker 1>Slavery is a good example for the morphogenic field because

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<v Speaker 1>not every person has ancestors with that background historic background

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<v Speaker 1>as a slave. But it's the morphic field where these

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<v Speaker 1>information are lying and it is sufficient. For example, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at a film in television or in cinema

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<v Speaker 1>where there are brutal scenes of slavery, for example, you

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<v Speaker 1>can acquire a so called indirect psychotrauma. This causes a

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<v Speaker 1>disruptive information in your subconscious mind and from that point on,

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<v Speaker 1>if not in any case, but in some cases you

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly feel yes, some of these symptoms described before coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the slave yoke. So one is always should take

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<v Speaker 1>care what you see, what films you are looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>for example. But everything has some well consequence in this

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<v Speaker 1>mental context, and this is saved in the morphogenic field.

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<v Speaker 1>And this can be yeah inherited by the following generations,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it causes again problems in this following generation.

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<v Speaker 1>There is even a rule of inheritance. Typically the grandparents

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<v Speaker 1>inherit to their grand children. There is one generation skipped.

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<v Speaker 1>The parent generation is skipped, and then the grandchildren's city generation.

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<v Speaker 1>The disruptive information can be measured again, all these can

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<v Speaker 1>be measured. There are computer systems which are not you,

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<v Speaker 1>as you remarked, but every energetic burden in the organ

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<v Speaker 1>can be measured. And you can ask those systems which

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<v Speaker 1>disruptive information stands behind all that, and you get clear

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<v Speaker 1>answers from that systems. And by this you can exactly

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<v Speaker 1>find out how this works and what general what information

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<v Speaker 1>are the the source problem of all that. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a symptom therapy. It's a well origin source oriented information

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<v Speaker 1>oriented therapy which is working here or a surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>So as a therapist, you are also at least it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like you're also the instrument in some ways. You're

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<v Speaker 2>detecting the misalignments and the problems. It sounds somewhat like radionics,

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<v Speaker 2>where you're working with an instrument and fine tuning and

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<v Speaker 2>understanding what the problems are. Talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>being the instrument.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether there are different possibilities to find out which disruptive

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<v Speaker 1>information are in the patient. One is these computer systems,

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<v Speaker 1>the so called non linear systems. It's by your resonance

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<v Speaker 1>systems the way you can see where are the energetic

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<v Speaker 1>disturbances and what disruptive information or cause the cause for

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<v Speaker 1>all that. But you also can do, for example, kinesiological

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<v Speaker 1>testing of the patient. You do not have to use

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<v Speaker 1>computers in any case. You can do that without problems,

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<v Speaker 1>without any computer. You just test the patient directly. The

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<v Speaker 1>patient is standing in front of the therapist. In my

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<v Speaker 1>case it's me, and then I make the people say

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<v Speaker 1>some terms. For example, the person tries to stand still

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<v Speaker 1>if I push from behind, and if he can stand still.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him to say slave yoke, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>can push from behind. And if he has that information

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<v Speaker 1>of slave yoke, this disruptive information inherited from for example,

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<v Speaker 1>from an ancestor, or acquired through an indirect psychotrauma, or

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<v Speaker 1>whereever it comes from, the person will fall. It will

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<v Speaker 1>not the patient will not stand and he will fall.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the sign for me that he has

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<v Speaker 1>that problem, this information which I have to treat them.

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<v Speaker 2>HM, can you explain your word as a therapist, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're non contact right, You're not contacting the person.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk us right, walk us step by step through an

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<v Speaker 2>actual perhaps diagnostic session and then the treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well or surgerally. From this its definition, it's defined as

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<v Speaker 1>the a non invasive surgical procedure, the contact less without

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<v Speaker 1>touching the patient in the subtle body, in the aura

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<v Speaker 1>of the patients. And this is done via surgical instruments

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<v Speaker 1>and via surroguts. Why surroguts and why surgical instrumvents. If

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<v Speaker 1>you touch a person, this makes all these subtle feelings disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>This situation just is sent can be feeled by a

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<v Speaker 1>person if there is no direct contact with this somatic

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<v Speaker 1>body so I'm working via surrogates. And these surrogats are

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<v Speaker 1>place holders, for example, an anatomy textbook and I put

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<v Speaker 1>we sit opposite to each other, the patient and me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I put that put that textbook on his thighs.

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<v Speaker 1>The patient is just sitting there. Well, he's in a completely,

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<v Speaker 1>if possible, relaxed mode if he does not have many

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<v Speaker 1>much pain, but the relaxed mode and just sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>with open eyes with closed eyes, no difference. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I start to take a surgical probe or at pair

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<v Speaker 1>of tweezes. And then I, for example, if he has

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with his goll bladder, pain with his goll bladder,

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<v Speaker 1>or then I just push the tweezes on the picture

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<v Speaker 1>of the gall bladder in the anatomy textbook. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is called the resonance. If there is an energetic disturbance

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<v Speaker 1>in the gold bladder, and if I push the tweezes

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<v Speaker 1>here on the gall bladder, the patient can feel it

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<v Speaker 1>in himself exactly at the position where his somatic gal

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<v Speaker 1>bladder is located. This is a quant physic entanglement phenomenon phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 1>So this shows me or the patient then tells me okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I feel a slight pressure, a slight tingling, a

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the signal for me as a therapist

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a resonance. Resonance is here, Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>answer coming from the patient. It's for me the sign

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<v Speaker 1>that there is an energetic disturbance and that gall bladder

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<v Speaker 1>and on the other side that the subconscious mind of

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<v Speaker 1>the patient is ready for a treatment. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>the way of diagnosis. It's going via resonance.

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<v Speaker 2>that he is as a or a surgeon. So before

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing the therapy. Are you sitting with the patient

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<v Speaker 2>and intending to have a positive outcome to the session?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any dialogue that sets up the the resonance

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<v Speaker 2>resonance of the actual therapy session.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, you typically in or a searcher. We do

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<v Speaker 1>not talk a lot. It's not psychotherapy. It's a complete

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<v Speaker 1>different approach. I just if a patient comes, I ask

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<v Speaker 1>problems he has? Does he have pain anywhere? Does he

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<v Speaker 1>have a inflammation, a humor, is something else? He just

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<v Speaker 1>tells me about his actual problems. I do not do

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<v Speaker 1>a complete history of the patient that thinks this is

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<v Speaker 1>not relevant in this context. I just asked him his

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<v Speaker 1>concrete situation, and then I start with kinesiological testing. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>if he has a gal bladder problem, I know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>from my well experienced that it is a for example,

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<v Speaker 1>a territory anger conflict, which might be the reason for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So cut all the gull bladder problems. If they are

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<v Speaker 1>bladder inflammation or pain from the gal bladder or stones

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<v Speaker 1>in the goal bladder, it's all the same from the perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>from the disruptive information. It's a so called territory conflict,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just test that territory conflict if it's existent

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's not. In most cases I find immediately

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<v Speaker 1>then the well according information. But there are also some

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<v Speaker 1>patients who do not suffer from that information or do

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<v Speaker 1>not show that information. It, for example, has a karmic background.

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<v Speaker 1>There is ecarmic pattern of the so called medical trials,

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<v Speaker 1>which also can cause problems with the goal bladder. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's all due to my experience. It's just the testing

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<v Speaker 1>of one two minutes, and I know where it comes from,

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<v Speaker 1>just from the experience. Nothing else do you I If.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying these are karmic patterns, can you identify where

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<v Speaker 2>they came from? In other words, the generations they came from?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they deepen the person's past? Talk about us, talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the identification of karmic illness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, again again. You can detect economic patterns in those

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<v Speaker 1>nonlinear systems, and you can test it kinesiologically. I can test,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, territory conflict or territory anger conflict, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the person will lose its stability as a sign that

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<v Speaker 1>there is this disruptive information existence. Then I can continue,

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<v Speaker 1>I can ask where does it come from. I test,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, for territory anger conflict coming from the ancestors

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<v Speaker 1>on the father's side, coming from the ancestors from the

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<v Speaker 1>mother's side, I can even ask which generation is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it, for example, the territory anger conflict coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the grandmother mother's side. So it's just all about testing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to just try to find out where

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<v Speaker 1>it comes from. And if I do not find that

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<v Speaker 1>information coming from the ancestors, there is a third possibility,

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<v Speaker 1>a third possible source of information, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>former incarnations. So it's three different sources where those information

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<v Speaker 1>can come from. It's the ancestors from the mother's side,

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<v Speaker 1>from the father's side, and the former incarnations. And again

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<v Speaker 1>concerning the former incarnations, the same rules apply as for

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<v Speaker 1>the inheritance coming from the ancestors. It's again the grand

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<v Speaker 1>and parents' generation passes to the grand children generation. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the same situation with the former incarnations. The same

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<v Speaker 1>rule applies here as well. And I can ask all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but usually I don't because it does not have any implication,

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<v Speaker 1>not any consequence for the therapy. So the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested in which exists, which disruptive information exists in

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<v Speaker 1>the patient, never mind where it comes from. The only

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<v Speaker 1>exception is when if I find the information of sexual abuse,

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00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 1>then I try to find out out of which generation

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<v Speaker 1>of or out of which source that disruptive information originates.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to learn more about these eighteen karmic patterns

439
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>that you identified eight zero. Oh my god, So it

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<v Speaker 2>must run the whole gamut of conditions, and not that

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<v Speaker 2>we want to spend the whole time talking about them.

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<v Speaker 2>But can you give us perhaps highlights on the most

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<v Speaker 2>fundament like maybe the top four that you run into.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, As I mentioned, the most often found a

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<v Speaker 1>comic pattern is that slave yoke, and this comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the humans, where slavery was always a

447
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<v Speaker 1>big thing and still today is a big thing. Now

448
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<v Speaker 1>we are in a different context of slavery. We are

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<v Speaker 1>financial slaves for example, in our actual society. In former

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<v Speaker 1>times it was slavery. In the United States, we had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of slavery and so on. But they are

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<v Speaker 1>other karmic patterns. For example, a very often found karmic

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<v Speaker 1>pattern is that one of the karmic patterns of hanging.

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<v Speaker 1>Millions of people have been hung in former times and

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<v Speaker 1>this information, this Disruptive information also exists in the morphic

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<v Speaker 1>field and affects many people. Typical symptoms of this hanging

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<v Speaker 1>pattern is completely different from, for example, the chromic pattern

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<v Speaker 1>of slavery of the slave yoke. Hanging causes, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>stiffness of the neck, the feeling that it is a

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<v Speaker 1>tightness on the neck. People do not stand for example, ties,

461
00:39:50.119 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 1>they cannot close their shirts, They have children often repetitively, inflammation,

462
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<v Speaker 1>sore throat, tonsilitis et say. They have a high degree

463
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<v Speaker 1>of justice uh this that everything has to be correct

464
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<v Speaker 1>what they do. They have a fear of examination for

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<v Speaker 1>example in school about school exams. They suffered from migraine

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<v Speaker 1>from tinatus. So this is a completely different our collection

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<v Speaker 1>of symptoms related to the karmic pattern of hanging. Another

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<v Speaker 1>often found pattern, for example, would be the pattern of

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<v Speaker 1>failed escape. Failed escape is related to all these well,

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<v Speaker 1>the people expelled from some their countries who are fleeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have now one hundred millions of refugees for

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<v Speaker 1>example worldwide, and this also cause heavy problems. This causes

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<v Speaker 1>again disruptive information to this person, to these people affected,

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<v Speaker 1>to these refugees and the people who have that they

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<v Speaker 1>are dreaming of escape, about flight they have. This is

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<v Speaker 1>also inherited for example, the grandchildren of our grand parents

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<v Speaker 1>who were for example in Germany, who had two world

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<v Speaker 1>wars and who had to flee, and we're refugees. These

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<v Speaker 1>grandchildren are dreaming of the escapes from their grand They

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<v Speaker 1>have a disbalance in their pelvis, they have problems with

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<v Speaker 1>the lumber spines, so they have psycho emotional problems, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have somatic problems. And one thing again, another very

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<v Speaker 1>often found comic pattern is that comic pattern of the

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<v Speaker 1>medical trials. Because everything we have in medicine started originally

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<v Speaker 1>as a medical trial. Every therapy started as a trial.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just the idea that some therapy could work out,

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<v Speaker 1>that some medication could do and not only harmed the patient.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just the question of tried error to

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<v Speaker 1>find out does it have any good consequence or does

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<v Speaker 1>it just cause unwanted side effects. And again this medical

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<v Speaker 1>trial pattern that you can also be found very often

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<v Speaker 1>in people. Actually we are living at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest medical trial in history, according to these COVID vaccinations.

494
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:26.159
<v Speaker 1>This was also a big medical trial, So we have

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<v Speaker 1>another new situation in this morphic field. According to this

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<v Speaker 1>economic pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fascinating to hear about that. Of course, we only

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<v Speaker 2>can scratch the service on eighty different conditions. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>present a little bit about some case studies talk about

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<v Speaker 2>if you can, I think you include conditions like panic attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>People who have panic attacks. Can you talk about and

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<v Speaker 2>give us an idea of how you when about a

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<v Speaker 2>therapeutic approach to that person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is a good question, as so many people

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<v Speaker 1>have panic attacks. If a patient with a comes to

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<v Speaker 1>me with a panic attack, the first thing I have

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<v Speaker 1>to examine is if he suffers from the chromic pattern

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<v Speaker 1>of hanging. As mentioned before, this panic attack I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to mention, panic attacks are typical symptoms associated with that

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<v Speaker 1>chromic pattern of hanging. This is the feeling of this

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly without any warning coming feeling of tightness in the

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<v Speaker 1>neck which is associated to the panic attacks. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing one has one has to examine, is this

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<v Speaker 1>due to this chromic pattern of hanging. If I found

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<v Speaker 1>find that, if I can test it, if the patient

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<v Speaker 1>is not stable in pushing him from behind, if he

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<v Speaker 1>mentions that term, then I take the scissors and remove

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<v Speaker 1>that the rope around his neck just by well cutting

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00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 1>it in the aura, not directly touching his somatic body,

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<v Speaker 1>but just taking this rope with one hand, just virtually

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<v Speaker 1>by pure imagination, and with the other hand with the scissors,

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00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I cut the rope and then I removed that rope

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<v Speaker 1>from his neck and throw it away, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after that I retest the patient and again

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<v Speaker 1>I let him say hanging, and then suddenly he stands still,

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<v Speaker 1>and these symptoms with associated with this panic attacks disappear

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<v Speaker 1>in the best case. And well, this is my experience

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<v Speaker 1>that this works out in most cases. So in most

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<v Speaker 1>cases is that pattern of hanging which has to be

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<v Speaker 1>examined and looked for.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I am curious to know if you have done

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<v Speaker 2>any research on terms of like a history of this

533
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<v Speaker 2>work you're doing, Like the ancient Egyptians may have done

534
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>similar types of therapy that you have intuited in your work,

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<v Speaker 2>and can kind of like find parallels or common ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you talk a little bit about what you've discovered

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of past civilizations using this therapy?

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<v Speaker 1>Will I have read books about that, and this approach

539
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<v Speaker 1>is not new what I'm doing in our resurgery. What

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<v Speaker 1>is new is the usage of surrogates and surgical instruments.

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<v Speaker 1>This is more or less a well point which is

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<v Speaker 1>very specific for our resurgery. And there is the saying

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<v Speaker 1>energy follows attention, and by using these instruments and by

544
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:48.880
<v Speaker 1>using surrogates, I can increase or maximize my attention. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the effect that by this I can maximize the well

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00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 1>mental energy I'm developing. It sounds a little bit strange,

547
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<v Speaker 1>but this is more or less or everything behind that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to see, for example, in an anatomy book, what

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<v Speaker 1>are the situation, what is the typical topographic situation the

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<v Speaker 1>anatomic anatomical situation of the sitis. I'm just working in

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<v Speaker 1>and by using instruments again, I can increase my attention.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a different approach than just by working just

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<v Speaker 1>with the hands. By using these instruments, I increase that attention.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is all about energy follows attention, the success

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00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the the rate. The success rate depends on the energy

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to develop as a therapist. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a well something which I have not read in any

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<v Speaker 1>of those books from ancient history, this usage of surrogates

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<v Speaker 1>and instruments.

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<v Speaker 2>But do do you show that perhaps the Chinese in

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<v Speaker 2>their development of acupuncture or herb medicine may have followed

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<v Speaker 2>similar patterns or similar h history in developing their therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you see a kind of a similarity in

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<v Speaker 2>either Chinese, Egyptian or perhaps even Mayan medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, well, I have learned acupuncturing myself. I studied a

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<v Speaker 1>lot the traditional Chinese medicine, and uh, well, Chinese medicine

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00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>follows a similar pathway because they say it's all about energetics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the energetic disturbance in the meridians of the organs,

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<v Speaker 1>and every disturbance causes some magic problems and psycho emotional problems.

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<v Speaker 1>As it is the same and or a surgery but

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<v Speaker 1>using instruments, using surrogats. According to this, what I called

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<v Speaker 1>the quant physic entanglement phenomen is something which is not

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<v Speaker 1>described there. This a specific for horror surgery. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>you touching, for example, the patient, if you put a

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<v Speaker 1>needle into the acupuncture point for example, is it done

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<v Speaker 1>in occupuncture traditional Chinese medicine, you touch the body. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a complete different thing because by this you just

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<v Speaker 1>are not able to cause or provoke any resonance anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Because all these things happening in the subtle body of

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<v Speaker 1>the human.

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<v Speaker 3>Is.

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<v Speaker 1>Resonance is just possible without any touching. That's the thing about.

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<v Speaker 1>What the secret about all that you put the needle

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<v Speaker 1>into accupuncture point. This is not feasible anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

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<v Speaker 2>with my guests today, doctor Matthias Coonland discussing his new

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<v Speaker 2>book Aura Surgery. We'll be right back with you. My

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<v Speaker 2>guest today is Matthias Kunlan, who has written a new

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<v Speaker 2>book called Aura Surgery. This is looking at the aura,

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<v Speaker 2>determining the karmic and energetic imbalances and clearing the aura

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<v Speaker 2>of those issues. I want, if you can to describe

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<v Speaker 2>the surrogate, because I understand the surrogate as a replacement

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<v Speaker 2>for the actual patient himself or herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I studied reiki, which is a Japanese technique and we

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<v Speaker 2>use surrogates for distant healing work. Please describe the surrogate

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<v Speaker 2>and how that is the tool for diagnostics.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the best surrogate to use is the anatomy book

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<v Speaker 1>Textbook of anatomy. Because old everything and the organ is

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<v Speaker 1>illustrated there and one can see exactly what nerves, what vessels,

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<v Speaker 1>what organs are located topographically, And according to this, it

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<v Speaker 1>is easy for somebody who is experienced in anatomy to

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<v Speaker 1>find out where is the maximum of resonance. The patient

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<v Speaker 1>just answers that. He tells me, now I can feel this,

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<v Speaker 1>this tangling or this pressure most so it's the way

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<v Speaker 1>to find out where is the maximum of the energetic disturbance.

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<v Speaker 1>But just to find out this energetic disturbance and to

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<v Speaker 1>try to do any therapeutic therapy there without knowing the background,

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<v Speaker 1>and the background is the this is mentioned information, this

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<v Speaker 1>coin mid pattern, all this conflict situation, it won't work out,

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<v Speaker 1>it won't succeed for the long term. So one has

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<v Speaker 1>this on one hand side. It's the energy, but much

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<v Speaker 1>more important is the information behind all that. One has

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<v Speaker 1>to program a or to counter program the information which

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<v Speaker 1>is in the patient. That's the way our surgery succeeds

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<v Speaker 1>for the long term. So it's not the energy medicine

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<v Speaker 1>in this conventional approach, it is information medicine, where one

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<v Speaker 1>has to exactly find out which is the disruptive information

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<v Speaker 1>and how can I remove that?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do in the phase of a peer

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<v Speaker 2>reviewed paper. Is this something that is Are they open

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<v Speaker 2>to this the medical establishment and the success rate or not?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the regular magazines are not interested in that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I give a lot of seminars in Switzerland, in Austria,

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<v Speaker 1>in Germany. From the fifty two weekends, I spent nearly

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<v Speaker 1>every second weekend somewhere to give seminars. I have many

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<v Speaker 1>physicians as participants in the seminars. They are less seminar

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<v Speaker 1>last week and we were one hundred participants, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people coming in order to learn that. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>not publish in the regular magazines because they won't publish

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<v Speaker 1>it in any case. And I do some research as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I can. I'm not a I have now

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<v Speaker 1>clinic behind me, now university behind me. I also do

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<v Speaker 1>not have the money to do that. It would be

636
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<v Speaker 1>very interesting to do all that research, but it is

637
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>cost intensive and personal intensive. But if some opportunity opens up,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be very interested for that. And well, this

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<v Speaker 1>all I can say is it's all my experiences and

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00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the experiences of the participants of my seminars. We are

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<v Speaker 1>discussing a lot I document a lot I have written

642
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:48.760
<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, three textbooks, huge textbooks, textbook of a reseurgery,

643
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:54.679
<v Speaker 1>textbook of bioprogramming, because their are brain relays in the

644
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:59.519
<v Speaker 1>brain where you also can find resonance according to the

645
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:05.599
<v Speaker 1>different conflicts, which are also around about eighty conflicts. So

646
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:09.519
<v Speaker 1>this is all very well documented, but not more because

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<v Speaker 1>it's simply beyond my possibilities.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I understand completely, Matthias. What is the success rate

649
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:20.760
<v Speaker 2>of karmaic therapy, this work that you're doing if somebody

650
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 2>comes in with a chronic condition, how successful are you?

651
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Is it multiple therapeutic approach or what is one time enough?

652
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<v Speaker 1>As soon as you've resolved one karmic pattern professionally, you

653
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>have to know how to do that, because every karmic

654
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:48.719
<v Speaker 1>pattern has his special hints. There is exact you have

655
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to know how to resolve that. But if you do

656
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 1>that professionally, you can't be quite sure that it won't

657
00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:00.480
<v Speaker 1>be there in two or three years if the patient

658
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:04.119
<v Speaker 1>should come again and for a re examination. I often

659
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:08.679
<v Speaker 1>have that situation or sometimes have that situation. The patients

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00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 1>come again after two or three years, especially in Switzerland,

661
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:17.440
<v Speaker 1>because people in Switzerland always want to be very sure

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00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>about everything, and so they come up two years, three

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00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:27.559
<v Speaker 1>years later again, and then we re examine ginesiological testing

664
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.599
<v Speaker 1>and then I find out that is still stable. So

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00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>this comic pattern, if you resolve that once, it won't

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<v Speaker 1>appear again. This is my experience. The different situation you

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00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:50.320
<v Speaker 1>find in conflicts, Conflicts can come again, they can relapse,

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00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:53.719
<v Speaker 1>and this is due to the fact that, for example,

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00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:59.079
<v Speaker 1>somebody can be devaluated by his partner or by his

670
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:04.400
<v Speaker 1>boss in the office again, or he can acquire a

671
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 1>or suffer from a from a territory conflict or from

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00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.679
<v Speaker 1>another of this eighty conflict. So there is no guarantee

673
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:22.519
<v Speaker 1>that this conflict won't reoccur, but the probability that one

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00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:28.239
<v Speaker 1>suffers from a new conflict is diminished if it is

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00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:33.519
<v Speaker 1>if the karmic pattern behind all that has been successfully resolved.

676
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<v Speaker 1>So the probability of acquiring a new devaluation conflict is

677
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:45.119
<v Speaker 1>minimized if you have resolved the chromic pattern of the

678
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:49.719
<v Speaker 1>slave yoke. If a person without a slave yoke is

679
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:54.199
<v Speaker 1>they will devaluate it. It says, well, it's up to you.

680
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Don't bother me. I'm not interested, just go away, leave

681
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>me alone. If somebody as a slave yoke in him,

682
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:07.039
<v Speaker 1>he takes that personally, he gets a huge burnt out depression.

683
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:11.840
<v Speaker 1>In the severest case, he commits suicide. This is the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's very important to find out these charmic patterns.

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01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.679
<v Speaker 1>To resolve the patterns, then the probability to suffer again

686
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:23.559
<v Speaker 1>any conflicts is diminished.

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01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.800
<v Speaker 2>While you're treating a patient, you must be taking some

688
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:36.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of a history matthias, and I mean what you're

689
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:42.480
<v Speaker 2>getting as a therapist, how you're extracting the karma, and

690
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:45.239
<v Speaker 2>so when they do show up again, because you must

691
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:48.360
<v Speaker 2>deal with hundreds of different people, how do you go

692
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:54.280
<v Speaker 2>about chronicling the therapy that you're applying.

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01:00:56.719 --> 01:01:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, every patient gets a documentation after history and II

694
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:09.960
<v Speaker 1>FI computer system a database where I collect the comic patterns,

695
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the conflicts, the miasmatic patterns I have found in that session.

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01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:18.840
<v Speaker 1>This is all documented. Every patient gets an email with

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01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a complete documentation with a description of his things found

698
01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in that one hour session. And then if the patient

699
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:32.719
<v Speaker 1>comes again, we can well check what was there two

700
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.360
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and if we then retested, we see if

701
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:41.360
<v Speaker 1>it stands the still or if he falls down. But

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<v Speaker 1>the as I mentioned, the the experiences that all the

703
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:53.480
<v Speaker 1>comic patterns stay remain stable for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing, fantastic. Let's talk about a few conditions that

705
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:03.880
<v Speaker 2>you featuring your book, and I'd love to hear more

706
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:09.880
<v Speaker 2>about somebody. I think somebody had diabetes. That's a big one.

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01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Lots of people have diabetes. What is the karmic pattern

708
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:19.519
<v Speaker 2>for diabetes and what's the treatment?

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01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, this depends on the question if this person has

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01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:31.639
<v Speaker 1>a type one or type two diabetes. Type one is

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01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the early onset diabetes. For example, in children, it's a

712
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:46.320
<v Speaker 1>failure of the pancreatic B cells, the Lanahan's B cells.

713
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.239
<v Speaker 1>It is called it's the production site of the insulin,

714
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and school medicine says that it is more or less

715
01:02:54.360 --> 01:03:02.639
<v Speaker 1>virus infections which affect those B cells, which the delete

716
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:06.559
<v Speaker 1>does bees or demolish. These be sales and then the

717
01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:09.360
<v Speaker 1>pop that the person is not able to produce any

718
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:14.440
<v Speaker 1>insulin anymore. So this is type one. From the energetic

719
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.800
<v Speaker 1>informational point of view, the situation is different. It is

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01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:24.360
<v Speaker 1>not mainly the virus infections. It is so called well

721
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the English word if somebody is in Deutsche. In Germany,

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01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:37.679
<v Speaker 1>it's stroibe conflict. If the has a situation in life

723
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:41.079
<v Speaker 1>which he does not like. For example, if a child

724
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:44.679
<v Speaker 1>goes to school at the age of six years, it

725
01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:49.840
<v Speaker 1>starts school and it has to change his situation from

726
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the protected parenthood at home, from the protected situation at

727
01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:04.880
<v Speaker 1>home and has to enter the the hostile situation, the

728
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:10.480
<v Speaker 1>hostile atmosphere of school. Then this conflict arises, and this

729
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:17.360
<v Speaker 1>is then more or less causing a energetic disturbance in

730
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 1>those b cells causing those diabetes. This is that what

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01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I found, what I can find regularly in all those patients.

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01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:30.039
<v Speaker 1>So it's all the questions if viruses, for example, are

733
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the primary factor in that scenery, or if they just

734
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:41.239
<v Speaker 1>arise because there is a primary energetic disturbance in a

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01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:47.800
<v Speaker 1>certain oregon, and the viruses then come additionally as a

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01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:52.000
<v Speaker 1>secondary phenomenon, but not as a primary problem. This is

737
01:04:52.079 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 1>also a complete different well perspective in the role of germs,

738
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:08.199
<v Speaker 1>of bacteria, of viruses, in all that understanding in this

739
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:17.320
<v Speaker 1>energetic informational perspective. And they tried two diabetes for adults. Well,

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01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:23.079
<v Speaker 1>this is of course school medicine says it's a nutritional problem.

741
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:28.559
<v Speaker 1>But these nutritional problems don't come just by themselves. It's

742
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:40.440
<v Speaker 1>existence conflicts, mainly conflicts for existential conflicts people have. They

743
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:52.599
<v Speaker 1>have so called conflicts of a lack of love of protection.

744
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It's the society problems we have. Well, just the people

745
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:01.920
<v Speaker 1>are acting with their elbows against each other. They are

746
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:06.960
<v Speaker 1>not collaborative, they are hostile between each other. These causes, simply,

747
01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:13.320
<v Speaker 1>these causes, certain conflicts, and this, in my experience, are

748
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 1>responsible for the malnutrition. People try to start eating the

749
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:24.920
<v Speaker 1>wrong foods, but not because it's so funny, but because

750
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:28.800
<v Speaker 1>they suffer from conflicts and they try to make that

751
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:35.039
<v Speaker 1>a little bit tolerable for them by eating, for example,

752
01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:40.880
<v Speaker 1>lots of sugar. So everything is caused by well has

753
01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:42.239
<v Speaker 1>his mental background.

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01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:48.960
<v Speaker 4>I would say the books called Aura Surgery, Healing, Karmic

755
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Patterns and Unconscious Conflicts in the Human Energy film I

756
01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:56.920
<v Speaker 4>guess today has been Matthias, Doctor Matthias Kulan.

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01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:03.440
<v Speaker 2>What does the future look like if we begin applying

758
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:08.599
<v Speaker 2>this therapy widely? Is this something that is going to

759
01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:13.400
<v Speaker 2>address chronic and terminal conditions? I want to talk about

760
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.639
<v Speaker 2>a terminal condition in a minute, But what is your

761
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:18.119
<v Speaker 2>vision for this?

762
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, my vision is that information medicine is the knick

763
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:31.239
<v Speaker 1>next big step in medicine because in the meantime, we

764
01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 1>have well done all that morphological approach for many centuries

765
01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 1>and the last decades, and we try to find out

766
01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:48.559
<v Speaker 1>what is what morphological changes are they were doing a

767
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:52.960
<v Speaker 1>cheating analysis and so on, and try to fix all that.

768
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.639
<v Speaker 1>But I doubt that we will succeed in that field

769
01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:03.280
<v Speaker 1>doing just going this orphological pathway. We have to change

770
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the perspective. We have to acknowledge that there are disorders

771
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:17.439
<v Speaker 1>or mental reasons for every disease, and these diseases are

772
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:21.520
<v Speaker 1>not real diseases, because if you study that background, you

773
01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:26.520
<v Speaker 1>will find out that any somatic reaction is some sort

774
01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:32.039
<v Speaker 1>of a counter reaction which is sense giving in the consequence.

775
01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:38.359
<v Speaker 1>And so just going always deeper and deeper in hoping

776
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:45.039
<v Speaker 1>that we will find the solution. Somehow, I doubt that

777
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.880
<v Speaker 1>this is the right approach. I think it is. The

778
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:52.199
<v Speaker 1>next approach is some sort of a digital approach in medicine,

779
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:59.239
<v Speaker 1>digital in the sense of information and detecting disruptive information

780
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:04.600
<v Speaker 1>in the in deleting this disruptive information. And this works

781
01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:08.439
<v Speaker 1>very well. This works, as I can say from the

782
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:12.560
<v Speaker 1>last years. I'm doing this now very intensively, and this

783
01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:17.359
<v Speaker 1>is probably the future, because it's all about the information.

784
01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:23.760
<v Speaker 1>As the great quantum physicists are saying that we are

785
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:31.560
<v Speaker 1>mental beings. We are not just flesh and blood. We

786
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 1>are spiritual beings. The human beings as well as the animals,

787
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and all the somatic consequences we have is the consequence

788
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:45.439
<v Speaker 1>of this mental disorders.

789
01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I want you to if you would please comment about

790
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 2>one of your patients who presented bronchial carcinoma, and I'm

791
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:02.960
<v Speaker 2>curious how if he came in with say an X

792
01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:09.760
<v Speaker 2>ray showing this cancer, how it was resolved.

793
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's clear that one has to state that the

794
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:25.920
<v Speaker 1>best choice would be to examine every person in a

795
01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:31.880
<v Speaker 1>very early age in order to find out with karmic patterns. Well,

796
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:36.119
<v Speaker 1>if he has any karmic patterns on everybody. Every person

797
01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:39.279
<v Speaker 1>suffers from charmic patterns, but many of them and this

798
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 1>cormic patterns should be resolved as soon as possible. If

799
01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:49.039
<v Speaker 1>he is able to resolve them, his whole life will

800
01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:57.159
<v Speaker 1>will go in another direction. His faith will change, his

801
01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:02.159
<v Speaker 1>character will change. Also, the diseases he will, under circumstances

802
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:06.239
<v Speaker 1>get to will change. If somebody comes with an X

803
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:09.640
<v Speaker 1>ray of his broncal carrid cinoma. This is already in

804
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 1>a very late stage. This corridcinoma is already existent. One

805
01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:20.239
<v Speaker 1>has to ask if there is a background, a spiritual

806
01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:24.760
<v Speaker 1>background for his cardcinoma of the bronchi. And there are

807
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:30.960
<v Speaker 1>three specific conflicts described in this context. One is the

808
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:43.399
<v Speaker 1>territory anxiety conflict. Another one is a it's all about

809
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:48.039
<v Speaker 1>anxiety conflicts or a speechless less conflict is it called.

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01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:54.800
<v Speaker 1>And if you test such a patient kinesiological testing, then

811
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:59.119
<v Speaker 1>one he will fall and he will get instable with

812
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:04.319
<v Speaker 1>one more of these typical conflicts described in the context

813
01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:08.439
<v Speaker 1>of the bronto cod cinoma. So nevertheless, what he is

814
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:12.399
<v Speaker 1>doing if he gets an operation by school medicine, this

815
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:16.800
<v Speaker 1>is fine for me, But he has to resolve that information.

816
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:22.199
<v Speaker 1>And I can say that if it's in an early stage,

817
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:29.279
<v Speaker 1>many patients have even succeeded just by deleting this information.

818
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:34.880
<v Speaker 1>This will not, not, of course now under circumstances, cause

819
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:40.439
<v Speaker 1>some protests from regular phycisions. But I just can say

820
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:44.399
<v Speaker 1>every bronto cod cinoma has its typical background from the

821
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:48.359
<v Speaker 1>informational point of view, and this has to be treated

822
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:55.319
<v Speaker 1>as soon as possible. Fantastic the is that there is

823
01:12:55.399 --> 01:13:02.479
<v Speaker 1>an Internet page. In domain ww W dot medic Codes

824
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:06.600
<v Speaker 1>dot net, you will find the so called digital clinic

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01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:11.960
<v Speaker 1>there and everybody is invited if he is interested. There

826
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:16.199
<v Speaker 1>is also an English version of the Digital Clinic. You

827
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:26.920
<v Speaker 1>can specify your symptoms, you carry the problems problems generally,

828
01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and there is the whole medicine more or less in

829
01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:35.079
<v Speaker 1>that database. And this medicodes database will present you the

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01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:42.039
<v Speaker 1>typical charmic patterns, the typical conflicts and the typical miasmatic

831
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:47.479
<v Speaker 1>patterns which have to be looked for, which have to

832
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:53.239
<v Speaker 1>be searched for in context of the specified symptoms. It's

833
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:57.520
<v Speaker 1>without any costs. It's cost free and you do not

834
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:01.079
<v Speaker 1>have to specify yourself. You do not have to specify

835
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.359
<v Speaker 1>your name. Just try and see what comes out.

836
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<v Speaker 2>So you go to the digital clinic and you find program.

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<v Speaker 1>I have programmed that myself with some software programmers.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so is it is it? Can you just go

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<v Speaker 2>to the digital clinic dot com or just say digital

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<v Speaker 2>clinic or do you actual.

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<v Speaker 1>Madi medicodes dot net is the is the domain? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have dot net, I have it, I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>In this you'll find the button called digital clinic. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you press on that. Then it starts, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you have to specify if you're right handed, left handed,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're male or a female, And then there is

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility to specify the symptoms, and it has a

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<v Speaker 1>searched function where there is the system makes proposals and

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<v Speaker 1>then you select the right one. You can specify more

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<v Speaker 1>than one symptoms or more than one illness uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can even check yourself. Even the system describes

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<v Speaker 1>what as a chromic pattern, is what typical symptoms that

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<v Speaker 1>this chromic pattern usually has, and most people find themselves

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<v Speaker 1>just by reading that description. And if you are not

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<v Speaker 1>sure about that, you can test yourself kinesiologically by a

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<v Speaker 1>swallow test. You try to swallow the term. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>you try to swallow the word slave yoke. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you are able to swallow, then the problem ability is

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<v Speaker 1>there that you do not suffer from that if it

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in the swallowing, then it might be existent in you.

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<v Speaker 1>So swallowing test how it works is described also, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can find out yourself. It's a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of self diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I let you go, you said that you do trainings.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there is there information on where someone can find

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<v Speaker 2>a physician or a therapist who is practicing your mercy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, right now I have the the the German

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<v Speaker 1>homepage it's called ourahiro ge dot me. But I'm right

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<v Speaker 1>now developing also the English version and I publish there

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<v Speaker 1>all the dates for the seminars in Switzerland, Germany and Austria.

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<v Speaker 1>So far there are now seminars in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe sometime there will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be fantastic, great pleasure having you on the program. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're presenting the future of healing, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is fantastic. And is there anything else you can present

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<v Speaker 2>to us that gives us information, like do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a YouTube channel or a seminar channel? People can hear videos,

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<v Speaker 2>watch videos off you present presenting material?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, right now it's mainly in Taman. We have now

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<v Speaker 1>right now developed an English version of a seminar of

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's seven hours. I mean or dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>all those eighty conflicts is explained exactly what conflicts are there,

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<v Speaker 1>What are the typical symptoms, which are the organs where

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<v Speaker 1>you can find or where they cause reactions on which oregon?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the comic background for each of those conflicts?

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<v Speaker 1>This will be published in the next few weeks, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is one choice, and another choice is that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm planning to do an English version of my regular

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<v Speaker 1>interview where introduced or resurchery. But this is more or

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<v Speaker 1>less very similar to that what we just have done.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Coulan. I really appreciate your time and much success

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<v Speaker 2>on this new book, and I hope to read more

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<v Speaker 2>about your work in the near future. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>Liv Thank you very much for that oneerful interview, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the best to all our viewers, and to you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tias didn't know, really or acknowledge anything about Edgar Casey.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a medical doctor and he probably wants to keep

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<v Speaker 2>his practice as pure as possible. I don't blame him,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a whole series of passages in Edgar Casey's reading.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know who Edgar cases he's a very

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<v Speaker 2>well known psychic who was able to go into a

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<v Speaker 2>trance and see someone's history, their past lives. In some

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<v Speaker 2>cases it was current lives, but most of the time

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<v Speaker 2>was past lives. And he spent a great deal of

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<v Speaker 2>time in a place called Atlantis, and the Atlantinians did

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<v Speaker 2>a hell of a lot of work with the aura.

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<v Speaker 2>They had light therapies, they had aura therapies where they

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<v Speaker 2>were clearing things, and I was curious to know if

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<v Speaker 2>any this is related, and I'd be love to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to one of his students or perhaps another person who

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<v Speaker 2>is a practicing or a surgeon. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they call themselves surgeons, but it'd be interesting to know

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<v Speaker 2>if they are reaching in and using the techniques from

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<v Speaker 2>that earlier period of time. So fascinating topic, definitely worth

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<v Speaker 2>a read. And he's got a number of case studies

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<v Speaker 2>in this book that are worth a good read. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's on Amazon, it is available digitally. He did not

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<v Speaker 2>do an audible version, so you won't find it in

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<v Speaker 2>that format. So or a surgery doctor Matthias Koonlan. If

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<v Speaker 2>We got a ton of gifts for you. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're up around fifty digital books that you can download some.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard some people have downloaded up to forty of them,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a lot, but they're downloaded. They're digital and

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<v Speaker 2>you get to read them on your laptop or your

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<v Speaker 2>Forward Slash Earth Ancients. Okay, that's it for this program.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to think my guest today, doctor Matthias Kulin,

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<v Speaker 2>coming to us from Germany. As always, the team of

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<v Speaker 2>guilteor Mark Foster and Feya bravar.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys rock.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, take care of you well and we will

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you later.

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