Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.
Speaker 2: I typically don't discuss the details of my past work
Speaker 2: because some of us kind of, you know, fairly general.
Speaker 2: But one of the most interesting part of my career
Speaker 2: was the work as a program director for a conference
Speaker 2: called Whole lifeex But we were based in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: but we did and held about seven to eight conferences
Speaker 2: around the United States. And one of the roles that
Speaker 2: I played was evaluating new topics from a variety a
Speaker 2: wide variety of content. A lot of it's faded and
Speaker 2: it's considered new aged. But it's funny to think that
Speaker 2: there are so many topics that are morphed into new things.
Speaker 2: And one of the topics is the aura. And we're
Speaker 2: going to be featuring the aura today with a physician
Speaker 2: from Germany who has taken the whole idea of aura
Speaker 2: into an area that I have just never conceived of.
Speaker 2: Before we go to that, I just wanted to bring
Speaker 2: up the fact that this isn't new to me and
Speaker 2: I had to evaluate for years. I had to evaluate
Speaker 2: people who had wanted to speak in lectures or workshops,
Speaker 2: or I had everything for people channeling animals. It come
Speaker 2: through their body and they would take on the channel
Speaker 2: material where people were bringing in the dearly departed people,
Speaker 2: aliens channeling aliens channeling well known people and not so
Speaker 2: well known people who are who were coming across to
Speaker 2: express themselves and let us know that we need to
Speaker 2: do things differently. Wellness was a huge topic. I mean
Speaker 2: everything from cancer research, vitamin therapy, nutritional research, personal growth,
Speaker 2: which cuts across a huge industry and it's still very
Speaker 2: viable today. At the end of the days when we
Speaker 2: were doing the tours, we had people like Wayne Dyer,
Speaker 2: Mary Ann Williamson, Deepak Chopra, I mean Redfield, all these people,
Speaker 2: people who are now not in the same vogue as
Speaker 2: they were, but still prominent in their research.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, and I was trying to be open
Speaker 2: minded as much as I can. But a lot of
Speaker 2: it was challenging for me. And I'm not a religious person.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't that I was necessarily revolted or unhappy
Speaker 2: or felt that they weren't ready to be placed on
Speaker 2: stage to give a lecture, workshop or intensive. It was
Speaker 2: just that a lot of it was just coming forth
Speaker 2: out of any place, you know. I mean it was
Speaker 2: just like whatever you could think of was placed on stage,
Speaker 2: you know, or they were looking for an audience. Today's
Speaker 2: program is on auras, and auras have always been of
Speaker 2: interest to my to me because the Maya and a
Speaker 2: lot of indigenous people understand the aura and work with
Speaker 2: it in a healing manner. I work with it to
Speaker 2: be strengthened. Some shaman can discern through looking at the aura,
Speaker 2: what is happening to a person's body, mind, and spirit,
Speaker 2: and this is important, and we don't really pay attention
Speaker 2: to the aura unless you're dealing with somebody who is
Speaker 2: psychic awareness, and somebody whose psychic can actually peer and
Speaker 2: look at the aura and see what's going on. About
Speaker 2: two decades ago, a scientist developed an aura camera, and
Speaker 2: you might have seen pictures of people putting their fingers
Speaker 2: on this piece of metal and they could actually take
Speaker 2: a photograph of it. There's other cameras that are bigger
Speaker 2: that can take like a halo shot of your head.
Speaker 2: But it really hasn't gotten much further than that, because
Speaker 2: obviously it's a big investment to build a whole machine.
Speaker 2: But at some point you would think that they would
Speaker 2: do something like that. Today's program is with an md
Speaker 2: N allopath who has discovered through research that he can actually,
Speaker 2: he can actually determine a person's wellness, mental, body, mind,
Speaker 2: and spirit through a series of questions and many of
Speaker 2: them are karmic. And this is what's kind of compelling
Speaker 2: about the show today, is that a lot of people,
Speaker 2: according to him, are dealing with karmic problems, past lives,
Speaker 2: ancestors who did terrible things, and they haven't cleaned it
Speaker 2: up yet. And he actually shows how to clear your aura.
Speaker 2: And he's got case studies of people who actually improve
Speaker 2: their life, improve their health, improve their wellness by clearing
Speaker 2: their field. Now, the title of the book that we're
Speaker 2: featuring today is called Aura Surgery, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: a misnomer because he's not actually cutting into people, but
Speaker 2: he's clearing and he's clearing out these pockets of karmic
Speaker 2: patterns that are influencing people in a profound manner. And
Speaker 2: so this is something that really takes us to the
Speaker 2: next level. We didn't have anything like this twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: When I was a program director. It was more sensing
Speaker 2: your aura, sensing what's going on with your aura, and
Speaker 2: trying to improve the aura. This work that we'll be
Speaker 2: discussing today actually identifies the oric patterns and then it
Speaker 2: identifies the problems that are in the oric fields. So
Speaker 2: this might sound we will do a lot of people,
Speaker 2: but we had to be open minded and this is
Speaker 2: what we have a variety of interesting people on destiny,
Speaker 2: Destinies or the Anxious Little Sister. The other part is
Speaker 2: that a lot of these programs on destiny are complement
Speaker 2: to Earth agents. And you know what I mean. That
Speaker 2: means that our ancestors use these techniques. Our ancestors didn't
Speaker 2: have machinery, so they used the body as a tuning
Speaker 2: fork to tune in higher frequencies for health, for wellness
Speaker 2: and so on. So today's program is or a surgery
Speaker 2: healing comic patterns and unconscious conflicts in the human energy field.
Speaker 2: And my guest today from Germany is doctor Matthias Kuhnlin.
Speaker 2: Most of us have heard the term aura and here
Speaker 2: in the United States there's people that work with auras
Speaker 2: and there's aura cameras that have been around for decades.
Speaker 2: And as a former program director, I remember going and
Speaker 2: seeing conferences where there were exhibits that could capture the aura.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how valid those were, but it's still
Speaker 2: of a great interest. Today we're speaking with a doctor
Speaker 2: who has developed a practice of oral surgery and this
Speaker 2: is something that's brand new to my mind. And he
Speaker 2: has written a book called Aura Surgery, Healing, Comic Patterns
Speaker 2: and Unconscious Conflicts in the Human Energy Field. My guest
Speaker 2: today is Matthias Kunlan and he's a doctor of neurology,
Speaker 2: founder of the Institute of Aura Surgery, and he practices
Speaker 2: near Munich, Germany. So we're gonna learn about this today.
Speaker 2: We're gonna learn just exactly what is this all about
Speaker 2: and the practical application of aura surgery. So but Tias,
Speaker 2: welcome to Destiny.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Cliff, thank you for the invitation. I'm pleased
Speaker 1: to talk to the United States. And yeah, let's talk
Speaker 1: about the new book. I'm very proud and happy that
Speaker 1: i can publish a book in the United States.
Speaker 2: I want to get some background on this. What is
Speaker 2: the history of this? In other words, how did you
Speaker 2: come about developing it? And I'll ask you a two
Speaker 2: part question. We do know that people like Edgar Casey
Speaker 2: spoke about aura energy light healing in a place called Atlantis.
Speaker 2: Of course, he was a great psychic and I don't
Speaker 2: want to get too much into that, but is there
Speaker 2: a history behind your discovery of this? Did you uncover
Speaker 2: it through research or how does this come to you?
Speaker 1: Well, the history is quite practical. It was the aching
Speaker 1: the pain of the back of my wife. That is
Speaker 1: the history all about. My wife, Christina had a problem
Speaker 1: with her back. She had a lumber spine protrusion of
Speaker 1: her disc pressing on her spinal nerve, causing pain all
Speaker 1: the time. And that was for many years, and as
Speaker 1: a neurologist I did everything I could do that time.
Speaker 1: We found out by m or Ai that there is
Speaker 1: a disc pru protrusion and one could exactly see whoe
Speaker 1: the problem was and which problem it was. So from
Speaker 1: the diagnostic point of view, everything was fine, but the
Speaker 1: therapy did not work out. That was the problem. We
Speaker 1: tried a lot of different things, physiotherapy, osteopathy and much more.
Speaker 1: There was no indication for an operation, so we had
Speaker 1: no real good solution for our problem. And simply by chance,
Speaker 1: my wife Christine is a journalist, she found out that
Speaker 1: there is something like called aura surgurgery. There is a
Speaker 1: therapist in Switzerland who practices that, and well, she was
Speaker 1: curious and simply tried what this would if this would
Speaker 1: succeed with her, and she traveled to United States and
Speaker 1: it was one session of one hour. And since that time,
Speaker 1: and this is now more than ten years ago, well,
Speaker 1: everything was gone, every pain was gone. She could again
Speaker 1: live her former life, she could go to sports to
Speaker 1: do her sport activities. So that was a huge, very
Speaker 1: impressive situation that time. And that was the time when
Speaker 1: I started thinking if my conventional approaches were always right,
Speaker 1: or if there is something else between earth and the sky,
Speaker 1: which if there is another perspective, this informational perspective, which
Speaker 1: could lead to the success.
Speaker 2: So your wife had a herniated disk and after.
Speaker 1: Once so fated it was just a protrusion, not so
Speaker 1: far a prolapse, but it was a protrusion. This is
Speaker 1: the minimum variant of a disk problem.
Speaker 2: And so she was in significant pain. I would imagine
Speaker 2: when she did certain activities and movements.
Speaker 1: Right right, yeah, right, and yes please yeah?
Speaker 2: And did she how long had she had this condition?
Speaker 1: Well it was round about for four years, amazing, And we,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, we tried everything from the therapeutical point
Speaker 1: of view. There was nothing which really succeeded. It was
Speaker 1: a short relief, but after some time it came back.
Speaker 1: And so there was no therapeutic approach which really worked out,
Speaker 1: and just this or a surgical treatment succeeded. And that
Speaker 1: was just once and one our treatment. And since then
Speaker 1: that was again that problem. And then I started to
Speaker 1: study a little bit about that method, and I found
Speaker 1: out that our seminars, well one could learn this method.
Speaker 1: And I traveled to Switzerland a couple of times and
Speaker 1: well learned it from the scratch. How to what things
Speaker 1: are important? How is this working? It is more or
Speaker 1: less information medicine. And we are living in the age
Speaker 1: of information technology. But we understand so for just information
Speaker 1: in the context of computers, but everything is information, also
Speaker 1: the biological systems or information, and it is disruptive information
Speaker 1: which we carry with us, which we inherit from our ancestors,
Speaker 1: coming from different things. Maybe I can tell afterwards a
Speaker 1: little bit, for example, is the flight escape from former times,
Speaker 1: war times and so on, This is all in us
Speaker 1: as disruptive information. That this causes problems psycho emotional problems,
Speaker 1: but also somatic problems and illnesses.
Speaker 2: Talk a bit about talk a bit Matthias about classically
Speaker 2: trained medicine, which is what you are. You're a allopath,
Speaker 2: and this is very This is a great deal of reasoning.
Speaker 2: How would you cross over into this aura medicine, which
Speaker 2: is totally off the books, is illogical according to most
Speaker 2: all paths, and would be rejected by the universities who
Speaker 2: teach doctors.
Speaker 1: I would think yes. Well, concerning the if we stick
Speaker 1: to the example of this lumber spine problem, the regular
Speaker 1: treatment would be an orgetic medication and well then physiotherapy
Speaker 1: in order to try to train the body to strengthen
Speaker 1: the muscles. That everything is ameliorating again. But this is
Speaker 1: not the point, because this is just a symptom related treatment.
Speaker 1: One has to ask, is there an information behind and
Speaker 1: behind any disease? I've found out now during this well
Speaker 1: ten years I'm practicing or researchery in the meantime, I
Speaker 1: found out that every disease there is a disruptive information
Speaker 1: and if there is a cleo logic behind all that.
Speaker 1: So knowing which oregon is ill or affected, one can
Speaker 1: immediately say what information have to be looked for some
Speaker 1: disruptive information and concerning for example, the lumber spine or
Speaker 1: the spine itself or the muscles and the joints. It's
Speaker 1: always the question of so called devaluation conflicts. So this
Speaker 1: person must have suffered a devaluation conflict in different context,
Speaker 1: is either private or in his profession. And behind these
Speaker 1: conflicts there are the so called chromic patterns. These are
Speaker 1: the basic patterns we inherit from our answers, and they
Speaker 1: are round about eighty chromic patterns described. I have written
Speaker 1: several books in the meantime, textbooks Textbook of Reseurgery, for example,
Speaker 1: and they're around about eighty chromic patterns, and we inherit
Speaker 1: them from our ancestors. And the most common and the
Speaker 1: most often found charmic pattern is the so called slave yoke,
Speaker 1: and this comes from the history of human society. Slavery
Speaker 1: always has been a big thing in history of mankind,
Speaker 1: and this is a disruptive information many people carry around.
Speaker 1: And every chromic pattern has its specific symptoms. And for example,
Speaker 1: somebody who has that slave yoke, he often develops devaluation conflicts.
Speaker 1: He is devaluated by his colleagues or by his friends
Speaker 1: because he well represents a slave to the outer world.
Speaker 1: He gets humiliated, he gets devaluated and This is not
Speaker 1: just by a chance. This is the consequent, the consequence
Speaker 1: of his burden with that slave yoke. People with a
Speaker 1: slave yoke don't like speaking in front of many people.
Speaker 1: They always feel some pressure online on their shoulders, they
Speaker 1: have neck pain, They sometimes have problems with their spine,
Speaker 1: aching pain in their spine. And yes, so they are
Speaker 1: always working. They can stop working. They always dependent in
Speaker 1: their lifestyle that depends on other people. They are not
Speaker 1: self determined. So this is all typical symptoms of this
Speaker 1: chronic pattern of the slave yoke. And every of these
Speaker 1: eighty described patterns has its specific collection of symptoms.
Speaker 2: I want you to talk a little bit about the
Speaker 2: framework for oral surgery or surgery excuse me, and the
Speaker 2: idea of a morphogenic field. Talk about the morphogenic field,
Speaker 2: please well.
Speaker 1: Slavery is a good example for the morphogenic field because
Speaker 1: not every person has ancestors with that background historic background
Speaker 1: as a slave. But it's the morphic field where these
Speaker 1: information are lying and it is sufficient. For example, if
Speaker 1: you look at a film in television or in cinema
Speaker 1: where there are brutal scenes of slavery, for example, you
Speaker 1: can acquire a so called indirect psychotrauma. This causes a
Speaker 1: disruptive information in your subconscious mind and from that point on,
Speaker 1: if not in any case, but in some cases you
Speaker 1: suddenly feel yes, some of these symptoms described before coming
Speaker 1: from the slave yoke. So one is always should take
Speaker 1: care what you see, what films you are looking at,
Speaker 1: for example. But everything has some well consequence in this
Speaker 1: mental context, and this is saved in the morphogenic field.
Speaker 1: And this can be yeah inherited by the following generations,
Speaker 1: and then it causes again problems in this following generation.
Speaker 1: There is even a rule of inheritance. Typically the grandparents
Speaker 1: inherit to their grand children. There is one generation skipped.
Speaker 1: The parent generation is skipped, and then the grandchildren's city generation.
Speaker 1: The disruptive information can be measured again, all these can
Speaker 1: be measured. There are computer systems which are not you,
Speaker 1: as you remarked, but every energetic burden in the organ
Speaker 1: can be measured. And you can ask those systems which
Speaker 1: disruptive information stands behind all that, and you get clear
Speaker 1: answers from that systems. And by this you can exactly
Speaker 1: find out how this works and what general what information
Speaker 1: are the the source problem of all that. It's not
Speaker 1: a symptom therapy. It's a well origin source oriented information
Speaker 1: oriented therapy which is working here or a surgery.
Speaker 2: So as a therapist, you are also at least it
Speaker 2: sounds like you're also the instrument in some ways. You're
Speaker 2: detecting the misalignments and the problems. It sounds somewhat like radionics,
Speaker 2: where you're working with an instrument and fine tuning and
Speaker 2: understanding what the problems are. Talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: being the instrument.
Speaker 1: Whether there are different possibilities to find out which disruptive
Speaker 1: information are in the patient. One is these computer systems,
Speaker 1: the so called non linear systems. It's by your resonance
Speaker 1: systems the way you can see where are the energetic
Speaker 1: disturbances and what disruptive information or cause the cause for
Speaker 1: all that. But you also can do, for example, kinesiological
Speaker 1: testing of the patient. You do not have to use
Speaker 1: computers in any case. You can do that without problems,
Speaker 1: without any computer. You just test the patient directly. The
Speaker 1: patient is standing in front of the therapist. In my
Speaker 1: case it's me, and then I make the people say
Speaker 1: some terms. For example, the person tries to stand still
Speaker 1: if I push from behind, and if he can stand still.
Speaker 1: I asked him to say slave yoke, and then I
Speaker 1: can push from behind. And if he has that information
Speaker 1: of slave yoke, this disruptive information inherited from for example,
Speaker 1: from an ancestor, or acquired through an indirect psychotrauma, or
Speaker 1: whereever it comes from, the person will fall. It will
Speaker 1: not the patient will not stand and he will fall.
Speaker 1: And this is the sign for me that he has
Speaker 1: that problem, this information which I have to treat them.
Speaker 2: HM, can you explain your word as a therapist, because
Speaker 2: you're you're non contact right, You're not contacting the person.
Speaker 2: Walk us right, walk us step by step through an
Speaker 2: actual perhaps diagnostic session and then the treatment.
Speaker 1: Well or surgerally. From this its definition, it's defined as
Speaker 1: the a non invasive surgical procedure, the contact less without
Speaker 1: touching the patient in the subtle body, in the aura
Speaker 1: of the patients. And this is done via surgical instruments
Speaker 1: and via surroguts. Why surroguts and why surgical instrumvents. If
Speaker 1: you touch a person, this makes all these subtle feelings disappear.
Speaker 1: This situation just is sent can be feeled by a
Speaker 1: person if there is no direct contact with this somatic
Speaker 1: body so I'm working via surrogates. And these surrogats are
Speaker 1: place holders, for example, an anatomy textbook and I put
Speaker 1: we sit opposite to each other, the patient and me,
Speaker 1: and I put that put that textbook on his thighs.
Speaker 1: The patient is just sitting there. Well, he's in a completely,
Speaker 1: if possible, relaxed mode if he does not have many
Speaker 1: much pain, but the relaxed mode and just sitting there
Speaker 1: with open eyes with closed eyes, no difference. And then
Speaker 1: I start to take a surgical probe or at pair
Speaker 1: of tweezes. And then I, for example, if he has
Speaker 1: a problem with his goll bladder, pain with his goll bladder,
Speaker 1: or then I just push the tweezes on the picture
Speaker 1: of the gall bladder in the anatomy textbook. And this
Speaker 1: is called the resonance. If there is an energetic disturbance
Speaker 1: in the gold bladder, and if I push the tweezes
Speaker 1: here on the gall bladder, the patient can feel it
Speaker 1: in himself exactly at the position where his somatic gal
Speaker 1: bladder is located. This is a quant physic entanglement phenomenon phenomenon.
Speaker 1: So this shows me or the patient then tells me okay,
Speaker 1: now I feel a slight pressure, a slight tingling, a
Speaker 1: slight pointing here in my area of the gall bladder.
Speaker 1: And this is the signal for me as a therapist
Speaker 1: that there is a resonance. Resonance is here, Well, the
Speaker 1: answer coming from the patient. It's for me the sign
Speaker 1: that there is an energetic disturbance and that gall bladder
Speaker 1: and on the other side that the subconscious mind of
Speaker 1: the patient is ready for a treatment. So this is
Speaker 1: the way of diagnosis. It's going via resonance.
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Speaker 2: that he is as a or a surgeon. So before
Speaker 2: you're doing the therapy. Are you sitting with the patient
Speaker 2: and intending to have a positive outcome to the session?
Speaker 2: Is there any dialogue that sets up the the resonance
Speaker 2: resonance of the actual therapy session.
Speaker 1: No, No, you typically in or a searcher. We do
Speaker 1: not talk a lot. It's not psychotherapy. It's a complete
Speaker 1: different approach. I just if a patient comes, I ask
Speaker 1: him why he is here, why, what are the actual
Speaker 1: problems he has? Does he have pain anywhere? Does he
Speaker 1: have a inflammation, a humor, is something else? He just
Speaker 1: tells me about his actual problems. I do not do
Speaker 1: a complete history of the patient that thinks this is
Speaker 1: not relevant in this context. I just asked him his
Speaker 1: concrete situation, and then I start with kinesiological testing. For example,
Speaker 1: if he has a gal bladder problem, I know exactly
Speaker 1: from my well experienced that it is a for example,
Speaker 1: a territory anger conflict, which might be the reason for that.
Speaker 1: So cut all the gull bladder problems. If they are
Speaker 1: bladder inflammation or pain from the gal bladder or stones
Speaker 1: in the goal bladder, it's all the same from the perspective,
Speaker 1: from the disruptive information. It's a so called territory conflict,
Speaker 1: and I just test that territory conflict if it's existent
Speaker 1: or if it's not. In most cases I find immediately
Speaker 1: then the well according information. But there are also some
Speaker 1: patients who do not suffer from that information or do
Speaker 1: not show that information. It, for example, has a karmic background.
Speaker 1: There is ecarmic pattern of the so called medical trials,
Speaker 1: which also can cause problems with the goal bladder. So
Speaker 1: it's all due to my experience. It's just the testing
Speaker 1: of one two minutes, and I know where it comes from,
Speaker 1: just from the experience. Nothing else do you I If.
Speaker 2: You're saying these are karmic patterns, can you identify where
Speaker 2: they came from? In other words, the generations they came from?
Speaker 2: Are they deepen the person's past? Talk about us, talk
Speaker 2: about the identification of karmic illness.
Speaker 1: Yes, again again. You can detect economic patterns in those
Speaker 1: nonlinear systems, and you can test it kinesiologically. I can test,
Speaker 1: for example, territory conflict or territory anger conflict, and then
Speaker 1: the person will lose its stability as a sign that
Speaker 1: there is this disruptive information existence. Then I can continue,
Speaker 1: I can ask where does it come from. I test,
Speaker 1: for example, for territory anger conflict coming from the ancestors
Speaker 1: on the father's side, coming from the ancestors from the
Speaker 1: mother's side, I can even ask which generation is it?
Speaker 1: Is it, for example, the territory anger conflict coming from
Speaker 1: the grandmother mother's side. So it's just all about testing,
Speaker 1: and I have to just try to find out where
Speaker 1: it comes from. And if I do not find that
Speaker 1: information coming from the ancestors, there is a third possibility,
Speaker 1: a third possible source of information, and this is the
Speaker 1: former incarnations. So it's three different sources where those information
Speaker 1: can come from. It's the ancestors from the mother's side,
Speaker 1: from the father's side, and the former incarnations. And again
Speaker 1: concerning the former incarnations, the same rules apply as for
Speaker 1: the inheritance coming from the ancestors. It's again the grand
Speaker 1: and parents' generation passes to the grand children generation. This
Speaker 1: is the same situation with the former incarnations. The same
Speaker 1: rule applies here as well. And I can ask all that,
Speaker 1: but usually I don't because it does not have any implication,
Speaker 1: not any consequence for the therapy. So the only thing
Speaker 1: I'm interested in which exists, which disruptive information exists in
Speaker 1: the patient, never mind where it comes from. The only
Speaker 1: exception is when if I find the information of sexual abuse,
Speaker 1: then I try to find out out of which generation
Speaker 1: of or out of which source that disruptive information originates.
Speaker 2: I'd like to learn more about these eighteen karmic patterns
Speaker 2: that you identified eight zero. Oh my god, So it
Speaker 2: must run the whole gamut of conditions, and not that
Speaker 2: we want to spend the whole time talking about them.
Speaker 2: But can you give us perhaps highlights on the most
Speaker 2: fundament like maybe the top four that you run into.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, As I mentioned, the most often found a
Speaker 1: comic pattern is that slave yoke, and this comes from
Speaker 1: the history of the humans, where slavery was always a
Speaker 1: big thing and still today is a big thing. Now
Speaker 1: we are in a different context of slavery. We are
Speaker 1: financial slaves for example, in our actual society. In former
Speaker 1: times it was slavery. In the United States, we had
Speaker 1: a lot of slavery and so on. But they are
Speaker 1: other karmic patterns. For example, a very often found karmic
Speaker 1: pattern is that one of the karmic patterns of hanging.
Speaker 1: Millions of people have been hung in former times and
Speaker 1: this information, this Disruptive information also exists in the morphic
Speaker 1: field and affects many people. Typical symptoms of this hanging
Speaker 1: pattern is completely different from, for example, the chromic pattern
Speaker 1: of slavery of the slave yoke. Hanging causes, for example,
Speaker 1: stiffness of the neck, the feeling that it is a
Speaker 1: tightness on the neck. People do not stand for example, ties,
Speaker 1: they cannot close their shirts, They have children often repetitively, inflammation,
Speaker 1: sore throat, tonsilitis et say. They have a high degree
Speaker 1: of justice uh this that everything has to be correct
Speaker 1: what they do. They have a fear of examination for
Speaker 1: example in school about school exams. They suffered from migraine
Speaker 1: from tinatus. So this is a completely different our collection
Speaker 1: of symptoms related to the karmic pattern of hanging. Another
Speaker 1: often found pattern, for example, would be the pattern of
Speaker 1: failed escape. Failed escape is related to all these well,
Speaker 1: the people expelled from some their countries who are fleeing.
Speaker 1: Now we have now one hundred millions of refugees for
Speaker 1: example worldwide, and this also cause heavy problems. This causes
Speaker 1: again disruptive information to this person, to these people affected,
Speaker 1: to these refugees and the people who have that they
Speaker 1: are dreaming of escape, about flight they have. This is
Speaker 1: also inherited for example, the grandchildren of our grand parents
Speaker 1: who were for example in Germany, who had two world
Speaker 1: wars and who had to flee, and we're refugees. These
Speaker 1: grandchildren are dreaming of the escapes from their grand They
Speaker 1: have a disbalance in their pelvis, they have problems with
Speaker 1: the lumber spines, so they have psycho emotional problems, and
Speaker 1: they have somatic problems. And one thing again, another very
Speaker 1: often found comic pattern is that comic pattern of the
Speaker 1: medical trials. Because everything we have in medicine started originally
Speaker 1: as a medical trial. Every therapy started as a trial.
Speaker 1: There was just the idea that some therapy could work out,
Speaker 1: that some medication could do and not only harmed the patient.
Speaker 1: And it was just the question of tried error to
Speaker 1: find out does it have any good consequence or does
Speaker 1: it just cause unwanted side effects. And again this medical
Speaker 1: trial pattern that you can also be found very often
Speaker 1: in people. Actually we are living at the time of
Speaker 1: the biggest medical trial in history, according to these COVID vaccinations.
Speaker 1: This was also a big medical trial, So we have
Speaker 1: another new situation in this morphic field. According to this
Speaker 1: economic pattern.
Speaker 2: That's fascinating to hear about that. Of course, we only
Speaker 2: can scratch the service on eighty different conditions. Can you
Speaker 2: present a little bit about some case studies talk about
Speaker 2: if you can, I think you include conditions like panic attacks.
Speaker 2: People who have panic attacks. Can you talk about and
Speaker 2: give us an idea of how you when about a
Speaker 2: therapeutic approach to that person.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is a good question, as so many people
Speaker 1: have panic attacks. If a patient with a comes to
Speaker 1: me with a panic attack, the first thing I have
Speaker 1: to examine is if he suffers from the chromic pattern
Speaker 1: of hanging. As mentioned before, this panic attack I forgot
Speaker 1: to mention, panic attacks are typical symptoms associated with that
Speaker 1: chromic pattern of hanging. This is the feeling of this
Speaker 1: suddenly without any warning coming feeling of tightness in the
Speaker 1: neck which is associated to the panic attacks. So the
Speaker 1: first thing one has one has to examine, is this
Speaker 1: due to this chromic pattern of hanging. If I found
Speaker 1: find that, if I can test it, if the patient
Speaker 1: is not stable in pushing him from behind, if he
Speaker 1: mentions that term, then I take the scissors and remove
Speaker 1: that the rope around his neck just by well cutting
Speaker 1: it in the aura, not directly touching his somatic body,
Speaker 1: but just taking this rope with one hand, just virtually
Speaker 1: by pure imagination, and with the other hand with the scissors,
Speaker 1: I cut the rope and then I removed that rope
Speaker 1: from his neck and throw it away, and that's it.
Speaker 1: And then after that I retest the patient and again
Speaker 1: I let him say hanging, and then suddenly he stands still,
Speaker 1: and these symptoms with associated with this panic attacks disappear
Speaker 1: in the best case. And well, this is my experience
Speaker 1: that this works out in most cases. So in most
Speaker 1: cases is that pattern of hanging which has to be
Speaker 1: examined and looked for.
Speaker 2: I'm I am curious to know if you have done
Speaker 2: any research on terms of like a history of this
Speaker 2: work you're doing, Like the ancient Egyptians may have done
Speaker 2: similar types of therapy that you have intuited in your work,
Speaker 2: and can kind of like find parallels or common ground.
Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about what you've discovered
Speaker 2: in terms of past civilizations using this therapy?
Speaker 1: Will I have read books about that, and this approach
Speaker 1: is not new what I'm doing in our resurgery. What
Speaker 1: is new is the usage of surrogates and surgical instruments.
Speaker 1: This is more or less a well point which is
Speaker 1: very specific for our resurgery. And there is the saying
Speaker 1: energy follows attention, and by using these instruments and by
Speaker 1: using surrogates, I can increase or maximize my attention. It's
Speaker 1: the effect that by this I can maximize the well
Speaker 1: mental energy I'm developing. It sounds a little bit strange,
Speaker 1: but this is more or less or everything behind that.
Speaker 1: Just to see, for example, in an anatomy book, what
Speaker 1: are the situation, what is the typical topographic situation the
Speaker 1: anatomic anatomical situation of the sitis. I'm just working in
Speaker 1: and by using instruments again, I can increase my attention.
Speaker 1: It is a different approach than just by working just
Speaker 1: with the hands. By using these instruments, I increase that attention.
Speaker 1: So this is all about energy follows attention, the success
Speaker 1: the the rate. The success rate depends on the energy
Speaker 1: I'm able to develop as a therapist. And this is
Speaker 1: a well something which I have not read in any
Speaker 1: of those books from ancient history, this usage of surrogates
Speaker 1: and instruments.
Speaker 2: But do do you show that perhaps the Chinese in
Speaker 2: their development of acupuncture or herb medicine may have followed
Speaker 2: similar patterns or similar h history in developing their therapy.
Speaker 2: And do you see a kind of a similarity in
Speaker 2: either Chinese, Egyptian or perhaps even Mayan medicine.
Speaker 1: Now, well, I have learned acupuncturing myself. I studied a
Speaker 1: lot the traditional Chinese medicine, and uh, well, Chinese medicine
Speaker 1: follows a similar pathway because they say it's all about energetics.
Speaker 1: It's the energetic disturbance in the meridians of the organs,
Speaker 1: and every disturbance causes some magic problems and psycho emotional problems.
Speaker 1: As it is the same and or a surgery but
Speaker 1: using instruments, using surrogats. According to this, what I called
Speaker 1: the quant physic entanglement phenomen is something which is not
Speaker 1: described there. This a specific for horror surgery. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you touching, for example, the patient, if you put a
Speaker 1: needle into the acupuncture point for example, is it done
Speaker 1: in occupuncture traditional Chinese medicine, you touch the body. So
Speaker 1: it's a complete different thing because by this you just
Speaker 1: are not able to cause or provoke any resonance anymore.
Speaker 1: Because all these things happening in the subtle body of
Speaker 1: the human.
Speaker 3: Is.
Speaker 1: Resonance is just possible without any touching. That's the thing about.
Speaker 1: What the secret about all that you put the needle
Speaker 1: into accupuncture point. This is not feasible anymore.
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Speaker 2: guest today is Matthias Kunlan, who has written a new
Speaker 2: book called Aura Surgery. This is looking at the aura,
Speaker 2: determining the karmic and energetic imbalances and clearing the aura
Speaker 2: of those issues. I want, if you can to describe
Speaker 2: the surrogate, because I understand the surrogate as a replacement
Speaker 2: for the actual patient himself or herself.
Speaker 1: Yes, and.
Speaker 2: I studied reiki, which is a Japanese technique and we
Speaker 2: use surrogates for distant healing work. Please describe the surrogate
Speaker 2: and how that is the tool for diagnostics.
Speaker 1: Well, the best surrogate to use is the anatomy book
Speaker 1: Textbook of anatomy. Because old everything and the organ is
Speaker 1: illustrated there and one can see exactly what nerves, what vessels,
Speaker 1: what organs are located topographically, And according to this, it
Speaker 1: is easy for somebody who is experienced in anatomy to
Speaker 1: find out where is the maximum of resonance. The patient
Speaker 1: just answers that. He tells me, now I can feel this,
Speaker 1: this tangling or this pressure most so it's the way
Speaker 1: to find out where is the maximum of the energetic disturbance.
Speaker 1: But just to find out this energetic disturbance and to
Speaker 1: try to do any therapeutic therapy there without knowing the background,
Speaker 1: and the background is the this is mentioned information, this
Speaker 1: coin mid pattern, all this conflict situation, it won't work out,
Speaker 1: it won't succeed for the long term. So one has
Speaker 1: this on one hand side. It's the energy, but much
Speaker 1: more important is the information behind all that. One has
Speaker 1: to program a or to counter program the information which
Speaker 1: is in the patient. That's the way our surgery succeeds
Speaker 1: for the long term. So it's not the energy medicine
Speaker 1: in this conventional approach, it is information medicine, where one
Speaker 1: has to exactly find out which is the disruptive information
Speaker 1: and how can I remove that?
Speaker 2: What do you do in the phase of a peer
Speaker 2: reviewed paper. Is this something that is Are they open
Speaker 2: to this the medical establishment and the success rate or not?
Speaker 1: Well, the regular magazines are not interested in that. And
Speaker 1: I give a lot of seminars in Switzerland, in Austria,
Speaker 1: in Germany. From the fifty two weekends, I spent nearly
Speaker 1: every second weekend somewhere to give seminars. I have many
Speaker 1: physicians as participants in the seminars. They are less seminar
Speaker 1: last week and we were one hundred participants, one hundred
Speaker 1: people coming in order to learn that. But I do
Speaker 1: not publish in the regular magazines because they won't publish
Speaker 1: it in any case. And I do some research as
Speaker 1: much as I can. I'm not a I have now
Speaker 1: clinic behind me, now university behind me. I also do
Speaker 1: not have the money to do that. It would be
Speaker 1: very interesting to do all that research, but it is
Speaker 1: cost intensive and personal intensive. But if some opportunity opens up,
Speaker 1: I would be very interested for that. And well, this
Speaker 1: all I can say is it's all my experiences and
Speaker 1: the experiences of the participants of my seminars. We are
Speaker 1: discussing a lot I document a lot I have written
Speaker 1: in the meantime, three textbooks, huge textbooks, textbook of a reseurgery,
Speaker 1: textbook of bioprogramming, because their are brain relays in the
Speaker 1: brain where you also can find resonance according to the
Speaker 1: different conflicts, which are also around about eighty conflicts. So
Speaker 1: this is all very well documented, but not more because
Speaker 1: it's simply beyond my possibilities.
Speaker 2: Oh, I understand completely, Matthias. What is the success rate
Speaker 2: of karmaic therapy, this work that you're doing if somebody
Speaker 2: comes in with a chronic condition, how successful are you?
Speaker 2: Is it multiple therapeutic approach or what is one time enough?
Speaker 1: As soon as you've resolved one karmic pattern professionally, you
Speaker 1: have to know how to do that, because every karmic
Speaker 1: pattern has his special hints. There is exact you have
Speaker 1: to know how to resolve that. But if you do
Speaker 1: that professionally, you can't be quite sure that it won't
Speaker 1: be there in two or three years if the patient
Speaker 1: should come again and for a re examination. I often
Speaker 1: have that situation or sometimes have that situation. The patients
Speaker 1: come again after two or three years, especially in Switzerland,
Speaker 1: because people in Switzerland always want to be very sure
Speaker 1: about everything, and so they come up two years, three
Speaker 1: years later again, and then we re examine ginesiological testing
Speaker 1: and then I find out that is still stable. So
Speaker 1: this comic pattern, if you resolve that once, it won't
Speaker 1: appear again. This is my experience. The different situation you
Speaker 1: find in conflicts, Conflicts can come again, they can relapse,
Speaker 1: and this is due to the fact that, for example,
Speaker 1: somebody can be devaluated by his partner or by his
Speaker 1: boss in the office again, or he can acquire a
Speaker 1: or suffer from a from a territory conflict or from
Speaker 1: another of this eighty conflict. So there is no guarantee
Speaker 1: that this conflict won't reoccur, but the probability that one
Speaker 1: suffers from a new conflict is diminished if it is
Speaker 1: if the karmic pattern behind all that has been successfully resolved.
Speaker 1: So the probability of acquiring a new devaluation conflict is
Speaker 1: minimized if you have resolved the chromic pattern of the
Speaker 1: slave yoke. If a person without a slave yoke is
Speaker 1: they will devaluate it. It says, well, it's up to you.
Speaker 1: Don't bother me. I'm not interested, just go away, leave
Speaker 1: me alone. If somebody as a slave yoke in him,
Speaker 1: he takes that personally, he gets a huge burnt out depression.
Speaker 1: In the severest case, he commits suicide. This is the difference.
Speaker 1: So it's very important to find out these charmic patterns.
Speaker 1: To resolve the patterns, then the probability to suffer again
Speaker 1: any conflicts is diminished.
Speaker 2: While you're treating a patient, you must be taking some
Speaker 2: kind of a history matthias, and I mean what you're
Speaker 2: getting as a therapist, how you're extracting the karma, and
Speaker 2: so when they do show up again, because you must
Speaker 2: deal with hundreds of different people, how do you go
Speaker 2: about chronicling the therapy that you're applying.
Speaker 1: Well, every patient gets a documentation after history and II
Speaker 1: FI computer system a database where I collect the comic patterns,
Speaker 1: the conflicts, the miasmatic patterns I have found in that session.
Speaker 1: This is all documented. Every patient gets an email with
Speaker 1: a complete documentation with a description of his things found
Speaker 1: in that one hour session. And then if the patient
Speaker 1: comes again, we can well check what was there two
Speaker 1: years ago, and if we then retested, we see if
Speaker 1: it stands the still or if he falls down. But
Speaker 1: the as I mentioned, the the experiences that all the
Speaker 1: comic patterns stay remain stable for the future.
Speaker 2: That's amazing, fantastic. Let's talk about a few conditions that
Speaker 2: you featuring your book, and I'd love to hear more
Speaker 2: about somebody. I think somebody had diabetes. That's a big one.
Speaker 2: Lots of people have diabetes. What is the karmic pattern
Speaker 2: for diabetes and what's the treatment?
Speaker 1: Well, this depends on the question if this person has
Speaker 1: a type one or type two diabetes. Type one is
Speaker 1: the early onset diabetes. For example, in children, it's a
Speaker 1: failure of the pancreatic B cells, the Lanahan's B cells.
Speaker 1: It is called it's the production site of the insulin,
Speaker 1: and school medicine says that it is more or less
Speaker 1: virus infections which affect those B cells, which the delete
Speaker 1: does bees or demolish. These be sales and then the
Speaker 1: pop that the person is not able to produce any
Speaker 1: insulin anymore. So this is type one. From the energetic
Speaker 1: informational point of view, the situation is different. It is
Speaker 1: not mainly the virus infections. It is so called well
Speaker 1: the English word if somebody is in Deutsche. In Germany,
Speaker 1: it's stroibe conflict. If the has a situation in life
Speaker 1: which he does not like. For example, if a child
Speaker 1: goes to school at the age of six years, it
Speaker 1: starts school and it has to change his situation from
Speaker 1: the protected parenthood at home, from the protected situation at
Speaker 1: home and has to enter the the hostile situation, the
Speaker 1: hostile atmosphere of school. Then this conflict arises, and this
Speaker 1: is then more or less causing a energetic disturbance in
Speaker 1: those b cells causing those diabetes. This is that what
Speaker 1: I found, what I can find regularly in all those patients.
Speaker 1: So it's all the questions if viruses, for example, are
Speaker 1: the primary factor in that scenery, or if they just
Speaker 1: arise because there is a primary energetic disturbance in a
Speaker 1: certain oregon, and the viruses then come additionally as a
Speaker 1: secondary phenomenon, but not as a primary problem. This is
Speaker 1: also a complete different well perspective in the role of germs,
Speaker 1: of bacteria, of viruses, in all that understanding in this
Speaker 1: energetic informational perspective. And they tried two diabetes for adults. Well,
Speaker 1: this is of course school medicine says it's a nutritional problem.
Speaker 1: But these nutritional problems don't come just by themselves. It's
Speaker 1: existence conflicts, mainly conflicts for existential conflicts people have. They
Speaker 1: have so called conflicts of a lack of love of protection.
Speaker 1: It's the society problems we have. Well, just the people
Speaker 1: are acting with their elbows against each other. They are
Speaker 1: not collaborative, they are hostile between each other. These causes, simply,
Speaker 1: these causes, certain conflicts, and this, in my experience, are
Speaker 1: responsible for the malnutrition. People try to start eating the
Speaker 1: wrong foods, but not because it's so funny, but because
Speaker 1: they suffer from conflicts and they try to make that
Speaker 1: a little bit tolerable for them by eating, for example,
Speaker 1: lots of sugar. So everything is caused by well has
Speaker 1: his mental background.
Speaker 4: I would say the books called Aura Surgery, Healing, Karmic
Speaker 4: Patterns and Unconscious Conflicts in the Human Energy film I
Speaker 4: guess today has been Matthias, Doctor Matthias Kulan.
Speaker 2: What does the future look like if we begin applying
Speaker 2: this therapy widely? Is this something that is going to
Speaker 2: address chronic and terminal conditions? I want to talk about
Speaker 2: a terminal condition in a minute, But what is your
Speaker 2: vision for this?
Speaker 1: Well, my vision is that information medicine is the knick
Speaker 1: next big step in medicine because in the meantime, we
Speaker 1: have well done all that morphological approach for many centuries
Speaker 1: and the last decades, and we try to find out
Speaker 1: what is what morphological changes are they were doing a
Speaker 1: cheating analysis and so on, and try to fix all that.
Speaker 1: But I doubt that we will succeed in that field
Speaker 1: doing just going this orphological pathway. We have to change
Speaker 1: the perspective. We have to acknowledge that there are disorders
Speaker 1: or mental reasons for every disease, and these diseases are
Speaker 1: not real diseases, because if you study that background, you
Speaker 1: will find out that any somatic reaction is some sort
Speaker 1: of a counter reaction which is sense giving in the consequence.
Speaker 1: And so just going always deeper and deeper in hoping
Speaker 1: that we will find the solution. Somehow, I doubt that
Speaker 1: this is the right approach. I think it is. The
Speaker 1: next approach is some sort of a digital approach in medicine,
Speaker 1: digital in the sense of information and detecting disruptive information
Speaker 1: in the in deleting this disruptive information. And this works
Speaker 1: very well. This works, as I can say from the
Speaker 1: last years. I'm doing this now very intensively, and this
Speaker 1: is probably the future, because it's all about the information.
Speaker 1: As the great quantum physicists are saying that we are
Speaker 1: mental beings. We are not just flesh and blood. We
Speaker 1: are spiritual beings. The human beings as well as the animals,
Speaker 1: and all the somatic consequences we have is the consequence
Speaker 1: of this mental disorders.
Speaker 2: I want you to if you would please comment about
Speaker 2: one of your patients who presented bronchial carcinoma, and I'm
Speaker 2: curious how if he came in with say an X
Speaker 2: ray showing this cancer, how it was resolved.
Speaker 1: Well, it's clear that one has to state that the
Speaker 1: best choice would be to examine every person in a
Speaker 1: very early age in order to find out with karmic patterns. Well,
Speaker 1: if he has any karmic patterns on everybody. Every person
Speaker 1: suffers from charmic patterns, but many of them and this
Speaker 1: cormic patterns should be resolved as soon as possible. If
Speaker 1: he is able to resolve them, his whole life will
Speaker 1: will go in another direction. His faith will change, his
Speaker 1: character will change. Also, the diseases he will, under circumstances
Speaker 1: get to will change. If somebody comes with an X
Speaker 1: ray of his broncal carrid cinoma. This is already in
Speaker 1: a very late stage. This corridcinoma is already existent. One
Speaker 1: has to ask if there is a background, a spiritual
Speaker 1: background for his cardcinoma of the bronchi. And there are
Speaker 1: three specific conflicts described in this context. One is the
Speaker 1: territory anxiety conflict. Another one is a it's all about
Speaker 1: anxiety conflicts or a speechless less conflict is it called.
Speaker 1: And if you test such a patient kinesiological testing, then
Speaker 1: one he will fall and he will get instable with
Speaker 1: one more of these typical conflicts described in the context
Speaker 1: of the bronto cod cinoma. So nevertheless, what he is
Speaker 1: doing if he gets an operation by school medicine, this
Speaker 1: is fine for me, But he has to resolve that information.
Speaker 1: And I can say that if it's in an early stage,
Speaker 1: many patients have even succeeded just by deleting this information.
Speaker 1: This will not, not, of course now under circumstances, cause
Speaker 1: some protests from regular phycisions. But I just can say
Speaker 1: every bronto cod cinoma has its typical background from the
Speaker 1: informational point of view, and this has to be treated
Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Fantastic the is that there is
Speaker 1: an Internet page. In domain ww W dot medic Codes
Speaker 1: dot net, you will find the so called digital clinic
Speaker 1: there and everybody is invited if he is interested. There
Speaker 1: is also an English version of the Digital Clinic. You
Speaker 1: can specify your symptoms, you carry the problems problems generally,
Speaker 1: and there is the whole medicine more or less in
Speaker 1: that database. And this medicodes database will present you the
Speaker 1: typical charmic patterns, the typical conflicts and the typical miasmatic
Speaker 1: patterns which have to be looked for, which have to
Speaker 1: be searched for in context of the specified symptoms. It's
Speaker 1: without any costs. It's cost free and you do not
Speaker 1: have to specify yourself. You do not have to specify
Speaker 1: your name. Just try and see what comes out.
Speaker 2: So you go to the digital clinic and you find program.
Speaker 1: I have programmed that myself with some software programmers.
Speaker 2: Okay, so is it is it? Can you just go
Speaker 2: to the digital clinic dot com or just say digital
Speaker 2: clinic or do you actual.
Speaker 1: Madi medicodes dot net is the is the domain? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll have dot net, I have it, I have it.
Speaker 1: In this you'll find the button called digital clinic. And
Speaker 1: if you press on that. Then it starts, and then
Speaker 1: you have to specify if you're right handed, left handed,
Speaker 1: if you're male or a female, And then there is
Speaker 1: a possibility to specify the symptoms, and it has a
Speaker 1: searched function where there is the system makes proposals and
Speaker 1: then you select the right one. You can specify more
Speaker 1: than one symptoms or more than one illness uh, and
Speaker 1: then you can even check yourself. Even the system describes
Speaker 1: what as a chromic pattern, is what typical symptoms that
Speaker 1: this chromic pattern usually has, and most people find themselves
Speaker 1: just by reading that description. And if you are not
Speaker 1: sure about that, you can test yourself kinesiologically by a
Speaker 1: swallow test. You try to swallow the term. For example,
Speaker 1: you try to swallow the word slave yoke. And if
Speaker 1: you are able to swallow, then the problem ability is
Speaker 1: there that you do not suffer from that if it
Speaker 1: stuck in the swallowing, then it might be existent in you.
Speaker 1: So swallowing test how it works is described also, and
Speaker 1: then you can find out yourself. It's a sort of
Speaker 1: some sort of self diagnosis.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, you said that you do trainings.
Speaker 2: Are there is there information on where someone can find
Speaker 2: a physician or a therapist who is practicing your mercy.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, right now I have the the the German
Speaker 1: homepage it's called ourahiro ge dot me. But I'm right
Speaker 1: now developing also the English version and I publish there
Speaker 1: all the dates for the seminars in Switzerland, Germany and Austria.
Speaker 1: So far there are now seminars in the United States.
Speaker 1: Maybe sometime there will.
Speaker 2: Be fantastic, great pleasure having you on the program. I
Speaker 2: think you're presenting the future of healing, which I think
Speaker 2: is fantastic. And is there anything else you can present
Speaker 2: to us that gives us information, like do you have
Speaker 2: a YouTube channel or a seminar channel? People can hear videos,
Speaker 2: watch videos off you present presenting material?
Speaker 1: Well, right now it's mainly in Taman. We have now
Speaker 1: right now developed an English version of a seminar of
Speaker 1: I think it's seven hours. I mean or dealing with
Speaker 1: all those eighty conflicts is explained exactly what conflicts are there,
Speaker 1: What are the typical symptoms, which are the organs where
Speaker 1: you can find or where they cause reactions on which oregon?
Speaker 1: What are the comic background for each of those conflicts?
Speaker 1: This will be published in the next few weeks, I think.
Speaker 1: So this is one choice, and another choice is that
Speaker 1: I'm planning to do an English version of my regular
Speaker 1: interview where introduced or resurchery. But this is more or
Speaker 1: less very similar to that what we just have done.
Speaker 2: Doctor Coulan. I really appreciate your time and much success
Speaker 2: on this new book, and I hope to read more
Speaker 2: about your work in the near future. Thank you for
Speaker 2: joining me.
Speaker 1: Liv Thank you very much for that oneerful interview, and
Speaker 1: all the best to all our viewers, and to you,
Speaker 1: thank you very much.
Speaker 2: But Tias didn't know, really or acknowledge anything about Edgar Casey.
Speaker 2: He's a medical doctor and he probably wants to keep
Speaker 2: his practice as pure as possible. I don't blame him,
Speaker 2: but there's a whole series of passages in Edgar Casey's reading.
Speaker 2: If you don't know who Edgar cases he's a very
Speaker 2: well known psychic who was able to go into a
Speaker 2: trance and see someone's history, their past lives. In some
Speaker 2: cases it was current lives, but most of the time
Speaker 2: was past lives. And he spent a great deal of
Speaker 2: time in a place called Atlantis, and the Atlantinians did
Speaker 2: a hell of a lot of work with the aura.
Speaker 2: They had light therapies, they had aura therapies where they
Speaker 2: were clearing things, and I was curious to know if
Speaker 2: any this is related, and I'd be love to talk
Speaker 2: to one of his students or perhaps another person who
Speaker 2: is a practicing or a surgeon. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they call themselves surgeons, but it'd be interesting to know
Speaker 2: if they are reaching in and using the techniques from
Speaker 2: that earlier period of time. So fascinating topic, definitely worth
Speaker 2: a read. And he's got a number of case studies
Speaker 2: in this book that are worth a good read. So
Speaker 2: it's on Amazon, it is available digitally. He did not
Speaker 2: do an audible version, so you won't find it in
Speaker 2: that format. So or a surgery doctor Matthias Koonlan. If
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