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<v Speaker 1>Your summer back back of information. I love how they

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<v Speaker 1>just cover everything. Fifty five KRC the talk station atoh five,

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty five KRC, the talk station by the Times

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<v Speaker 1>here wishing everybody very happy Thursday slash Friday. Bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the r I heard media aviation expert Jay Ratliff and

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<v Speaker 1>as with a distinct pleasure to welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five KRC Morning Show doctor Jed Hardings, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the president of the Cincinnati Classical Academy. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>them online. It's sincey with y sincy Classical dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>Get in line. It is an amazing education opportunity, classical

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<v Speaker 1>education and this is the kind of thing and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really truly amazing. Welcome back, doctor Hardings. It's a pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>to have you on the program. Every time I see

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<v Speaker 1>your website, I just stare in awe. You got almost

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand students from sixty three zip codes in the

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<v Speaker 1>greater Cincinnati area. That is a huge draw. If you

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<v Speaker 1>build it, they will come. And in terms of people

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<v Speaker 1>clamoring for a better education for their children, guess what

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<v Speaker 1>you find it It's in Santa Classical Academy. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Harding's pleasure to have you here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much, Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a line all the way around the block

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<v Speaker 1>to get in? I know you're accepting applications at least

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<v Speaker 1>cording to the website for the twenty five to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six school year, currently it's K through nine correct.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. Yep, We're going to have nine hundred sixty

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<v Speaker 2>students this fall, just in a few weeks here in

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<v Speaker 2>kindergarten through ninth grade, and then we'll of course be

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<v Speaker 2>adding a grade level each year until we're fully through

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<v Speaker 2>the twelfth grade with thirteen hundred students.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, demand, I imagine his outstrips supply in terms of space.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people will be applying for these nine hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they've already applied. I mean, that's nine hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixty that we have room for, and then there's a

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<v Speaker 2>further wait list over five hundred long. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a real struggle to meet the growth and the

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<v Speaker 2>demand through these years, especially on a charter school budget.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, the big news now is that we

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<v Speaker 2>do have that solution in place. We bought the property

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<v Speaker 2>in Blue ash By Summit Park, signed the purchase agreement

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<v Speaker 2>just less than eighteen months ago, and now we're ready

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<v Speaker 2>to open it as our middle and high school campus.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really wonderful. And you know, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a grand opening celebration on August eighteen. This is

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<v Speaker 2>open to the public. It's an open house for two

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<v Speaker 2>hours from four thirty to six thirty, with a formal

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<v Speaker 2>ribbon cutting ceremony and everything. You know, maybe, Brian, we

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<v Speaker 2>hope you'll consider coming out to join us, because really

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<v Speaker 2>just thirty minutes of visiting the school will give you

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<v Speaker 2>a different idea of what education can and should be well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I look at your curriculum and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really just so healthy and refreshing to see how you

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<v Speaker 1>approach learning explicit phonics, you know Latin. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you teach Latin at the SINSI Classical Academy. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of reasons that people should still be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>learning Latin because it's the core foundation for our language.

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<v Speaker 1>Classics reading, and I love reading the classics and I

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<v Speaker 1>still do as an adult, and I think that's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about building your thought processes and your logic and

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<v Speaker 1>learning ability by reading classical education. You got the seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six curriculum and Singapore math. What is Singapore math

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the kind of math or teaching in

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<v Speaker 1>public schools for example.

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<v Speaker 2>Singapore. It's based on a program used in Singapore, which

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<v Speaker 2>has been the number one country globally in math instruction

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<v Speaker 2>for a decade in running. So they must be doing

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<v Speaker 2>something right. But it's just it's it's no, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the new quote new maths as we've heard about in

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<v Speaker 2>public schools. It's just common sense maths the way you

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<v Speaker 2>would you would have been taught and I was taught.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also it's also explaining a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>about the concepts underlying the arithmetic manipulations rather than just

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<v Speaker 2>memorizing the rules for for instance, how to do long divisions.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've had some great success with students who've been

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<v Speaker 1>through the since a classical academy. Are you tracking where

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<v Speaker 1>what they have done after lead departing the since classical

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<v Speaker 1>academy and the success that they're having.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course we don't have graduates yet, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>starting our first freshman class. But the test results, Brian

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<v Speaker 2>has been you know, off the charts. The school exceeds. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we just calculated this, which is that a student at

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Class School Academy is three and a half more

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<v Speaker 2>times likely to test as proficient in math, reading, and

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<v Speaker 2>science compared to the Ohio average Ohio public school three

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<v Speaker 2>and a half times more likely to be proficient.

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<v Speaker 1>That's outstanding. But I imagine, you know, the children who've

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<v Speaker 1>left the since I classical academy, say at grade nine,

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<v Speaker 1>probably have a profound advantage and leaps ahead of folks

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<v Speaker 1>in the same situation who've been through K through nine

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<v Speaker 1>in the public schools. I mean that might serve they

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you would think so. But there are many

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<v Speaker 2>students where we can look to see if that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we've had a retention rate at the school between

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<v Speaker 2>ninety right around ninety eight percent, so very students are leaving,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were particularly cited that ninety five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>our eighth graders from last year have returned to the

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<v Speaker 1>I have to think, and you correct me if I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Harding's that a parent who hears about the Sinsant

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<v Speaker 1>Classical Academy and enrolls their child there and whatever efforts

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<v Speaker 1>they have to go through to get their child from

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<v Speaker 1>wherever they're living over to the Sinsant Classical Academy physical location.

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<v Speaker 1>Those folks are truly concerned about ensuring that their children

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<v Speaker 1>get a great education. I have to imagine that parents

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<v Speaker 1>like that who would go through this process and through

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<v Speaker 1>the extra logistical hurdles to get there, get their children

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<v Speaker 1>there each and every day. The children are probably I

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<v Speaker 1>have to imagine, very disciplined. They're not problematic, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not disruptive. Coming from a solid background, you have less

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<v Speaker 1>interruptions in classroom and better opportunity to actually teach as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to deal with disciplinary issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's correct. I think that families are

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<v Speaker 2>driving a long way, in many cases an hour each way.

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<v Speaker 2>They're making a lot of sacrifices because what's more important

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<v Speaker 2>than the education of their children. What their children are

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<v Speaker 2>being exposed to for you know, forty hours a week,

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<v Speaker 2>and their families that have done their homework and value

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<v Speaker 2>this and seek for their children an education. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to you know, teach them the three RS

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, give them good skills, but it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to teach their children moral character, pacivil virtue.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was hoping to hear from you. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know I've said a.

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<v Speaker 2>Million times habits of mind, heart and soul.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind heart, and yep, what a profound shift from the

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<v Speaker 1>what you get in the since they are in the

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<v Speaker 1>public schools generally speaking. You know, doctor, I've always said,

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<v Speaker 1>the second best gift my parents ever gave me, after

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<v Speaker 1>the gift of life, was a gift of education. I

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<v Speaker 1>was commenting and reflecting earlier in the program, if we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking to the help squad about people on life's

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<v Speaker 1>margins needing a leg up. Is how blessed I am

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<v Speaker 1>to not have to look back. And you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>parents save me from that by getting me a solid education.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to take care of myself because of

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<v Speaker 1>my education background. And here it is right there, Sin

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<v Speaker 1>Sant Classical Academy. Now, going back to your new facility

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<v Speaker 1>again next to the Summit Park, how many more children

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to be able to serve there? Beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the nine hundred and sixty that you take care of.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we'll have capacity to go up to thirteen hundred students.

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<v Speaker 2>Total between our two campuses. So we have the lower

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<v Speaker 2>school campus K through four in Reading, Ohio, and then

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<v Speaker 2>three miles away at some at Park in Blue Ash

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have capacity for another eight hundred and fifty students,

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<v Speaker 2>which will be grades five through twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you need more space to expand as the years

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<v Speaker 1>roll on, you keep adding an additional grade or will

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<v Speaker 1>this new space along with the other space satisfy your needs.

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<v Speaker 2>We've built all the space in the past nine months

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<v Speaker 2>that we will need to go all the way through

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<v Speaker 2>twelfth grade. That's great, problem solved. We are excited. We're

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<v Speaker 2>excited to gove in this campus. We're excited to grow

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<v Speaker 2>over the next three years and just to focus on

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<v Speaker 2>education and learning. I mean for the board and for

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<v Speaker 2>all the supporters. Most of the campus development problem that

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<v Speaker 2>is solved. So you know, I think it's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest stories in education in Cincinnati in the last

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<v Speaker 2>decade or more at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I just kind of wonder if you can

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<v Speaker 1>explain my listening audience. I know you're a Hillsdale College

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<v Speaker 1>member school, but this wasn't there one day and the

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<v Speaker 1>next thing you know, you've got a since Ani classical Academy.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you launch this effort? How is it that

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<v Speaker 1>this wonderful organization that people are that there is in

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<v Speaker 1>fact a line around the block trying to get in.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it that it got started and it even

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<v Speaker 1>exists right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor myself and a couple others just had the idea

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<v Speaker 2>when we discovered, you know, that there was this classical

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<v Speaker 2>education and we're enamored with it as the solution to

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<v Speaker 2>all of the ills that plague our other schools and

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<v Speaker 2>universities and colleges. We just got together and just started

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<v Speaker 2>doing the work in twenty nineteen, and it took about

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<v Speaker 2>three years to apply to Hillsdale and get affiliation to

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<v Speaker 2>use their curriculum and have the school's support in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of instruction and guidance, and open the doors in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know my listening audience can help out. You

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<v Speaker 1>do accept donations to this Insie Classical Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, Go to Cincy Classical dot org and click

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<v Speaker 2>on the giving page. We accept gifts and all forms,

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<v Speaker 2>the state, gifts, one time, contributions, you name it. We

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<v Speaker 2>would love to have any one support, especially because the

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<v Speaker 2>financial challenges are real. Charter schools get about a third

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<v Speaker 2>less funding than the average state school. We get about

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<v Speaker 2>nine thousand dollars per student from the state, and compare

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<v Speaker 2>that to you know, twenty or twenty five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>that you know Indian Hill or Wyoming or Sycamore school

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<v Speaker 2>districts receiving funding. So it's yeah, we're getting the same

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<v Speaker 2>test scores you know, or better so, and we're teaching

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<v Speaker 2>with some different aims. So I think it's a really

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<v Speaker 2>worthy cause that really transcends considerations just of where your

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<v Speaker 2>kids are going to school. This is a national movement,

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<v Speaker 2>a restoration of the education needed for a free thinking

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<v Speaker 2>and self governing citizenry. So I think that that would

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<v Speaker 2>be an appealing cause for everyone, regardless of whether you

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wish you had the resources to take an

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<v Speaker 1>helping them secure a solid future where they can in

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<v Speaker 1>fact take care of themselves. They do think critically and

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<v Speaker 1>can logically and reasonably analyze things, as opposed to just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, churning out something that was memorized by some

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<v Speaker 1>woke professor or teacher. You know, God bless what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>out all the information at Sincey with a Y Sinceyclassical

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<v Speaker 1>to get in, I'd do it for your child. You'd

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<v Speaker 1>be doing all lifetime's worth of benefit. Doctor Harding's anything

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<v Speaker 1>else you want to add for we part company today.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that covers it. I we'd appreciate the

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<v Speaker 2>support of anyone who believes in teaching how to think,

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<v Speaker 2>not what to think, who thinks it's important to learn logic, economics, history, government,

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<v Speaker 2>moral philosophy. Come on out and join us on August

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<v Speaker 2>eighteenth for our open house four thirty to six thirty

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll have a celebration afterwards. And Brian, I really

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>On August eighteen, four thirty to six thirty at the

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<v Speaker 1>Blue or at the Summit Park campus location. Doctor Hardings,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you, sir. Keep up the great work and

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to another school year of learning excellence at

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<v Speaker 1>the Sinsante Classical Academy.

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<v Speaker 2>I do too, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of my friend. It's eight eighteen right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I fifty five kro City Talk station. Oh if only

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<v Speaker 1>all the schools taught that way, and only if only

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<v Speaker 1>all the auto repair places charged like Foreign Exchange, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>all be a lot happier. Don't go to the dealer

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<v Speaker 1>to get your automobile fixed. If you had an imported

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<v Speaker 1>car traditionally manufactured or a Tesla and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>save money, automobile repair expenses have gone through the roof.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that they were affordable at any given time, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know that could really be a problem, as we

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<v Speaker 1>learned earlier with the help Squad. Yeah, Foreign Exchange won't

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<v Speaker 1>charge you as much, though it's critically important you will

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<v Speaker 1>get an a SC certified Master technician working on your car.

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<v Speaker 1>They do have access to your manufacturer's technical information. They

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<v Speaker 1>do software upgrades and programming for all the imports you

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<v Speaker 1>can throw at them, and you get a full warranty

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<v Speaker 1>on parts and service, and they don't charge as much,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, all things being equal, although I would

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<v Speaker 1>argue Foreign Exchange probably treats you better than the dealership.

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<v Speaker 1>They're really friendly folks, But for saving money is the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line. That is the bottom Line of foreign Exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>Learn more online,