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Speaker 1: Good morning, hobby friends. Welcome to Hobby Hotline. This is

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episode three hundred and thirty of Hobby Hotline. I'm your host,

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Logan Ward, and with me today is the rookie card specialist,

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Victor Roman Senior.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing, Victor, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 3: Good morning guys. More importantly, good morning to the chat.

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Speaker 1: Yep and the man who needs no introduction, the Han

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solo of the Hobby Uncle Rich Klein.

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Speaker 2: How's it going, hello, Chat?

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Speaker 4: It's it's all good. It's a beautiful Saturday morning here

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in DFW. We're supposed to be like in the seventies

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all week, which is in February. One of the reasons

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I have never moved back to New Jersey. I'm not

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a big fan of winter in February.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be sixties here. I remember a few

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years ago I was it was like this, it was

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very warm, and I went out on my mountain bike.

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I was mountain biking. I came home and I had

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a tick made in February. That's that's unheard of anyway.

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It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Kim with a great comment. The last forty eight hours

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have been a hell of a year in the hobby

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you know, there's a thing sometimes a week is a year,

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and sometimes a year is a week. These forty eight

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hours is a year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's been uh, it's been crazy, and we're going

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to talk about it here in a minute, but I

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want to do I do want to give a shout

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out to Rex and crew at the Sports Card Shop.

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I'm sure we're on the big screens right now, so

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that's cool. But really, before we get started, I do

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want to say that we want to send our thoughts

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and prayers to the family and friends who have lost

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loved ones in the tragic aviation accident in Washington.

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Speaker 2: That's very sad.

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Speaker 4: And don't forget the accident in Philadelphia last night too.

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Speaker 2: I had not heard about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there was a plane, I guess a medical

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plane that crashed into a neighborhood in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, So.

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Speaker 4: We've had back to back days of that.

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Speaker 1: So well, you know, they say these things coming three

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so let's I don't even to think about it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, John, I'm proud of the fact that I still

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have enough hair to have an earl morral cut at

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my at my age, we were in both Spencer Thompson's

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one million Cubs chaff. We were talking about Earl morral

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this morning because Row was mentioning how Bob Greasey doesn't sell,

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so we mentioned Earl Morrele was the quarterback for the

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Dolphins during most of their undefeated season, and then I said,

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if you want a great career history, go to his career.

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He's had. He had some ups and downs that are amazing.

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He may even had a better flattop haircut than John Unitas,

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which is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I was kid, I had a flat top.

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There's some pictures of me with the flat top. I'll

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have to dig those out one day and scare everybody.

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Speaker 4: We should all host one day with our childhood.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just just have the photos up there. Yeah,

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that would be That would be hilarious. So yeah, looking

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at the chat, there's a lot of a lot of

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good mornings here. Good morning from Dean Hodges four fifty five.

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He gave a video like yeah, everyone hit that like

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buttons he Stevens. He's being Marravel today, Victor.

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Speaker 3: So that's about fifteen minutes away from me, maybe twenty

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minutes away from me. I'm wondering is there a card

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show or something out there? That I missed, or you're

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going out there for other reasons.

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: Uh One Me and coach project there's Bo, Good morning Bo.

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All right, So we're I think we're kind of caught

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up on the chat. So we're gonna go ahead and

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we're gonna we're gonna talk about this subject that's actually

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the the big elephant in the room, so to speak,

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backyard breaks. There were some crude comments about future miners,

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a daughter that this breaker.

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Speaker 2: Has yet to have.

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Speaker 1: They were pretty disparaging comments.

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Speaker 2: It's really set the hobby on fire.

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Speaker 1: Me personally, I don't I think I don't condone this

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kind of behavior, you know, because you know, you've got

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little kids that that are very impressionable that are watching

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these backyard breaks guys for you know, because they have

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a lot of antics and they have a lot of

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stick and things like that, and they they're popular, you know,

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and when.

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Speaker 2: They say things like this, that's that's not good.

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Speaker 1: It's not good. So Victor, I'm gonna go to you first.

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What are your thoughts just you know, starting out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I you know, I hate to regurgitate what

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everybody else has been saying, but it kind of a

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bummer right, It's just one heck of a way to

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start off twenty twenty five. But I'm looking at it

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a couple of ways. One is what I keep hearing

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kind of like the term degenerate, right, And I really

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I always often looked at that word as kind of

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a that sort of thing. But when I looked up

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the word, I looked up the word. I'm a nerd,

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and I like to look up words. I'm just I

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do that kind of thing. But the word degenerate is

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a decay of morality. Okay, We're kind of really diving

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into a dark subject that really has no place.

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Speaker 2: In a break in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: And then on the other side of things, what I

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don't hear a lot of people talking about is the

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heart of the matter. What is that the root of

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all of this? And there's a there's an old Bible

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verse that says, out of the abundance of the heart,

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the mouth speaks, And that's the kind of thing that

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I feel we're dealing with, is what is coming out

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is what's truly inside of the heart of that person.

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And unfortunately it's unfortunate, but that's kind of where we're

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at now.

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Speaker 2: The bigger question.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion is, what are they going to do

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about it? And it doesn't seem like so far, we're,

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what forty eight seventy two hours into this thing, I

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haven't heard of a corporate decision that has been made yet.

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Speaker 1: No, I have not heard anything from whatnot. From what

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I understand, backyard breaks is by far their most popular

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channel of their I assume it makes the most money

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for them. You know, it's it's making me wonder, you know,

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is this going to be a deal where it's it's

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money over morals?

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Speaker 4: You know? Right?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: And And one other thing that I'd like to add

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is a lot of times, like I can understand somebody

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saying something stupid. I mean, it happens to me, it

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happens to all of us. I've said things that I

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instantly regretted saying. But it wasn't like a one handoff

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common It was like the conversation, that topic conversation just

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kept going and going and going, and it's like, Okay,

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now we've crossed the line, and that's what needs to

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be dealt with. There's there needs to be consequences for

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this type of behavior.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I totally agree, Rich, What are your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to attack this from a totally different point

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of view, and I'm not going to talk about the comments.

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But the whole thing with Backyard Breaks is I think

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they try to stretch things as far as they can,

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if not further. At a recent Dallas card show, they

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were actually set up with a breaking table or whatever

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in the main room and they came to the young

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lady happy and by the way, she announced on Facebook

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she and her husband have just celebrated their thirty third anniversary.

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So Jerika is a very sweet lady. Ryan helps at

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the Dallas Card Show. He's a great grater for Dallas

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Card Show. So I mean they're both actively involved in

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the hobby and they just and I sit with Jerika

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because it's ever an hour to every show because it's

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fun to see who the dealers come. How you know,

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what goes on at a show, and it still gives me,

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as a person who's promoted shows some things. And these

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guys from Backyard Breaks sort of sauntered over and said, oh,

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by the way, we're leaving, you know, that's sadly, and

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they were probably actually going to do something fun. And

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I was sitting there and I was trying to get

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them to the point, hey, hey, we have a chance

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to go to a football game tomorrow. That's really fun

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to you know, really special. We've never been able to

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go there. All you had to do is come up

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with an excuse like that to say, hey, I've got

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to go somewhere tomorrow. But they were like, we're more

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important than the show. And that's the attitude I have.

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The feeling Backyard Breaks has towards everyone, and they have

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sixty employees. Has noted they're the biggest what not breakers

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and they've done a lot of stuff that is not

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great but money and stuff Trump saw and that was

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an example of what they did at the Dallas card show,

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of their flouting rules. And the next day, the funniest

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thing is somebody took the table no relations. Somebody came in,

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Oh yeah, we got a table for you, and and

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the setup was much more professional than the one day

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that they had had the day before, and it was like, hey,

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take a look, it's this is a really professional you know,

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for a card show. This is a very nice setup.

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They had done a much better job than the BYB

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people had. And this is just the latest example of

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BYB not doing the right thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you make a great point, rich in that I can.

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I can even you know, look at it differently if

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this was their like first offense. But but there has

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been like multiple strikes, right, and it's like, uh, strike three,

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You're out. Isn't that the you know, when when does

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 4: This might be strike eight?

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Speaker 2: You know. It's like it's like me with restaurants here

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in town.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to them three times, you know, if if

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I've had a bad experience, I'll you know, once I

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get three, I don't go anywhere. I mean, how many

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how many strikes do these guys deserve?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like what richid eight? I mean, I

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don't know, it's it's hard of.

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Speaker 4: It, you know, and nobody's perfect, but they they've been

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stretching the barriers far more aggressively than most people in

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the hot Yeah. That's and I think, as kN just

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pointed out in the in the chat, how many of

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their supporters are more newer people to the hobby, since

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you know who came us since the pandemic and are

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part of them, we'll call it the new ros in

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the hobby instead of the more traditional hobbyists.

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Speaker 2: Probably the majority yeah, probably.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, I used to collect

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hot wheel and I had a lot of run ins

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with hot wheel collectors. One I actually pushed my son

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down when he was little to try to get to

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hot wheel. I actually had my my safety threatened. Somebody

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threatened to come and burn my house down over hot wheel.

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So I used to think that the hot I got

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to think that the hot wheel's hobby is like got

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some of the worst people in it. And until you know,

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and I was proud to be in the card collecting community,

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we didn't have things going on like that. We didn't

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have the push and the shoving, the you know, people

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people trying to outdo each other, you know, the greed,

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that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Then the pandemic hit and now we have all those things.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I think the card collecting hobby has gotten

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worse than the hot wheels hobby.

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Speaker 2: To me, that's very sad and logan.

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Speaker 4: The funniest thing that this is when I started collecting,

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I would go through boxes at card shows and it

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was hyper competitive. Forty years ago, forty forty five years ago,

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it was hyper competitive. You know, everybody's trying to get

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the best thing. Now, at least in the Dallas card

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show when we go through the value boxes. You know,

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we've talked about this on Doctor Beckett's podcast, Him and I.

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There's everybody. I don't want to say we cooperate with

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each other. But there's no fighting, there's no thing. We

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just there's enough boxes. We just figure it out, you know.

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realm than there was forty five years ago. Which but

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video somebody shot of all these people running at Walmart

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or Target when they just put out some new blaster

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boxes and basically scooping up everything. And you know, almost

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as you said, pushing kids to the side or pushing

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adults to the side.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, there's there there were you know,

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I heard reports of people putting you know, putting trackers

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on people's cars, you know, the the airpads or pods.

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I forget what they were doing, but they were doing

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all kinds of crazy things. So you know, I you know,

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going back to backyard breaks, you know, what kind of

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what kind of message does this send to young kids?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: And also what kind of message does this send to

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to people trying to enter the hobby. To me, it's

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a it's a very bad message. It's one that I

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don't think we can we can overlook. I think I

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think there needs to be something done about this. I

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mean they've crossed the line. I mean, I get it.

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You can have some bro stick and say some lude things.

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Speaker 2: I can.

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Speaker 1: I get that, you know, but this is a line

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that was crossed, and this is a line that should

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never ever be crossed.

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Speaker 4: And if you and Victor have kids, correct, yes, I

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only have nieces and nephews. I don't have any kids.

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I found out one day we were going to get

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temporary custody of my five year old great nephew. And

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we had them for about four months while my wonderful

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niece was sorting out some sorting out some issues. And

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year old, even for only four months, was the most

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tiring thing I think I'd ever done in my life.

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You know, I will tell you it was really tiring.

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And I was, you know, and I was in better

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shape six years ago too. But if anybody had ever

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said anything like that in front of him. I probably

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would have hit him. I probably would have thrown the

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biggest punch I could have thrown that. And that's where

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we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, hey, Logan.

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Speaker 3: Before we transition to the next topic, I want to

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give an update on my man Cave project. But I'd

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love for you to show that Whatnot policy that you

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showed me before the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna I was actually to get to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what not has a policy about let me find

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it up here on the board. What out has a

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policy about you safety, And here it is. It says,

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what Not has zero tolerance for any activity or interactions

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that endanger the safety and well being of minors.

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Speaker 2: This includes the following.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm want to go down to the bottom when

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bottom bullet point because that's the one that really applied here.

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It says any activity, comment, item, or display sexualizing miners

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or otherwise encouraging the physical abuse of a minor, whether

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real or fictional. So they apparently don't put up with that,

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but I'm wondering if they do. You know, in my opinion,

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they should do something about this. But I have has

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anybody heard anything about what not statement I've not heard

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a statement from Nope, I haven't heard anything.

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Speaker 4: I really missed a lot of this. I don't live

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my life on the interwebs like some people, but I've

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heard about this and it's as I said, as Kin says,

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I rarely try to get off my even keel, but

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this throws me off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, this, this is a line that should

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never be crossed. And they're there.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking that anybody that is associated with them,

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you know, whether it's what not or you know, tops

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or whoever, you know, this may be a place where

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you need to cut ties. That That's what I'm thinking,

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you know, in my opinion, I mean, what do you

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guys think about that?

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Speaker 4: I think the chat's got the tone debta on and

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I can't say I disagree with most of the comments

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in the chat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah there's been. Yeah, I'm a girl dad too, I

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have four daughters myself, and this kind of stuff just

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creeps me out. But there's also I think, you know,

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some somebody made a common freedom of speech, and I.

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Speaker 2: Agree with that.

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Speaker 3: There is there is that that's our constitutional right. But

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at the same time, our speech has consequences, and.

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Speaker 4: Well, actually just said that that our freedom of speech

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doesn't mean freedom of consequences.

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Speaker 3: Correct, correct, And and that's that's that's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Man, that exactly.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, and you know, I'll live in Memphis, Okay,

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so you know, we have a lot of crime here

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and people do whatever they want because they don't fear

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the consequences. And that's I think that's something that that's

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going on here.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's almost exactly what. You know, these

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guys are gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: They know, I think they know that there's probably not

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going to be, in my opinion, any consequences towards it

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at all, and they're gonna keep all. They're gonna keep

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on trucking. The hobby has a very short memory, unfortunately,

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and they know they allow people to do bad things,

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but then they welcome back, welcome them back with open arms.

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Speaker 2: I don't don't. I don't understand that. I've never understood.

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Speaker 4: Logan's there's a saying on that fifty fourth time stuff,

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Trump's Paul part in the punt, But the whole key

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is and I wrote some this is a I'm going

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to kind of quote a line I wrote on Sports

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Collectors Daily many years If I went up the river

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for ten years and I came back and I found

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twenty or thirty t thirty two thirty one of the

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fan cards, of which I believe three or four are

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totally known period Edward Warder Titan had one. John Ramirez

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own's one. I know Leon Muckey at one point on

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one that got sold in his heritage type auction maybe

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eight nine years ago. There may be one more that

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crawled into the world since then. But that's about it.

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If I found twenty of them, even if I went

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to jail for ten years before finding them, you know

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what would happen. People would be saying, rich Helmas, do

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you want for those cards?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, they sure would. It's kind of how this is.

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Our hobby is rolling these days, and it's very very

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sad to me. Like I said, I used to be

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really proud of it, and I'm not so proud of it.

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Speaker 4: Logan. That's why I like playing in the world. I

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play in the dollar boxes, the quarterboxes. Can't really screw

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that up too.

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Speaker 2: Much, No, you really can't.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, you're you're having fun, you're enjoying the hobby,

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and that's I think that's that's what it's af.

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Speaker 4: And I do buy an occasional packer box. Heritage High

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Numbers is coming out, I will buy a box of

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Heritage High Numbers. I will buy a jumbo pack of

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Tops one on February twelve or thirteenth when it comes out,

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and that will be sufficient for the short term. So

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I actually get to play a little in the New

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Card World and then I'll go back to my quarter

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on dollar Box.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I do.

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Speaker 1: I do want to make one more comment about this.

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You know, I'm not pro cancel culture, canceled or you know,

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I mean cancel culture. But you know, but this to me, again,

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I keep saying this, but it just draws the line.

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This is the line you should never cross, and they've

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crossed it. And again there needs to be, in my opinion, consequences.

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Speaker 4: They didn't cross it. They storm passed it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they stampeded right through it, didn't they.

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: And you know I talk about cancel culture. You know

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it's that in itself. That's a whole nother story. But

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I'm gonna say something here really quick. There was a

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NASCAR Truck Series driver that lost his sponsorship in his

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ride because of something his dad said like thirty years ago.

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That to me is abs third. But you know this,

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this is a whole different you know, this is a

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whole different story, and it's it's it's just it's hard

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for me to put this into words. I just my

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jaw dropped when I saw this.

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Speaker 2: My session.

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Speaker 1: My son called me, he goes, You're not going to

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believe what's going on? And I went and looked, and

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it is like unbelievable. Can't believe somebody would ever go there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and and of course it's just the latest, as

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Ken says, it's the latest stupidity on my hobby. And

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we have a long we have a long running topic too,

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that's not a stupidity topic, but has certainly brought out

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the conspiracy theorists in the world coming up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we do.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of, you know, and I have to

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admit I am somewhat of a conspiracy theorist.

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Speaker 2: Every so often I wear the tin foil hat. So so.

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Speaker 1: All right, so before we get to that, I do

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want to talk about who you guys are are rooting

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for on the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, well, yeah, okay, can I start with that one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, I like, uh, it.

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Speaker 3: Was earlier in the chat. I think it was John

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Keating who said, he apology he wants to send its

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condolence to the.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and the city Chiefs in advance.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty confident.

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Speaker 4: And he lives in Philly, he lives in the area.

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Get it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm on board, Like I am divided because I

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see that Philly.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, is the better too.

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Speaker 3: But then on the and I'm rooting for but at

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the same time, I cannot deny that the having a

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three peat would be pretty amazing for the sport, for

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the hobby. So that's my tug of war that I

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have to figure out before next Sunday.

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Speaker 4: And I have an absolutely beautiful niece, married two kids

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in Kansas. She and her husband are both Chiefs fans.

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And the question is should I want to have say, Okay,

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you're rooting for the Chiefs, so I have to root

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for the Chiefs, or should I be the the pain

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in the butt uncle and just say, you know, I

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think I need to root for the Eagles to counterbalance

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what you're doing. You know, It's as Victor said, and correctly,

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there's something really nice about having a truly great team

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in the NFL. And I mean Mahomes has played in

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the you know, and Kelsey and some other guys, they've

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played in seven straight conference championship angers. I mean, that's

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that's amazing. That is you know, super Bowl number four.

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I believe they're in. Yeah, you know, that's a sign

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of a great team. And when you have a dynasty,

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you either become a lot of times you become a

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love it or hate it. And it's good for the

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hobby and it's good for the sport to have a team.

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But it's also good to see the Eagles if they win.

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They won against the Patriots in twenty eighteen, I believe,

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and then if they win this year, you know, they'll

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beat the two teams that are like the dynasties of

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their time. And so you have that counter balance. Like, hey,

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I think outside of Kansas City and the other people

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who like mister Mahomes and mister Kelsey and miss Swift

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and all those people, I think you're gonna find most

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of the country is real is rooting for the Eagles,

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believe it or not.

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Speaker 3: You know, somebody told me at work and maybe the

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help the chat can help me confirm this. But somebody

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told me at work yesterday that the NFL is going

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to start starting next season, they're going to start reviewing

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all roughing the passer calls.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's going to be brought up. They can't actually

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do that until the rules are changed. I believe they

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can do that d make that official during the rules

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you know, the rules meeting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's topic number one and during the off season.

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I guess there's going to be a big push for you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, I mean that's because the two penalties against

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the Titans were kind of shaky at best. I mean,

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there was one where the Titans seat each other more

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than they hit Mahomes, and Mahomes has also on one

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of the plays, he went out of bounds, kind of

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00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,839
slowed down to try to you know, which is smart football,

475
00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:46,119
but it's but it was an obvious play. They didn't

476
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,000
call it, but he when he was pushed, he was

477
00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:51,519
still in bounds. You know, that was a totally legal push.

478
00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:53,680
And it's a good thing. There was no gruffing the

479
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,039
passer called, or no one's sports him like conduct called

480
00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:58,279
on that because you would have said he was in

481
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,319
bounds that's allowed, and he wasn't sliding or anything, and

482
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,720
it's the late slides. And I think, you know, the

483
00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:07,440
AHL has a rule called flopping. I think the NBA

484
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,279
has a flopping rule. Looks like the NFL is gonna

485
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,559
join the flopping rule too.

486
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: Why would they implement such a rule.

487
00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:19,079
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of flopping in soccer. I

488
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,400
saw I saw like a meme or something on Twitter. Uh,

489
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,960
I guess last year or so. It showed, you know,

490
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,880
a guy getting supposedly, you know, he was flopping in

491
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,799
soccer and he was like holding his ankle and things

492
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,319
like that, and he wouldn't get up. And then it

493
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,039
showed a cyclist who wrecked and it was all bloody.

494
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,359
Is is his jersey and everything was all tore up

495
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,559
and he gets back on his bike and Go's just funny.

496
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,880
But as far as who I'm rooting for, I'm rooting

497
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,559
for the Eagles. You know, I'm an Alabama guy. My

498
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,559
wife graduated from Alabama, so we're in Alabama family. We

499
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,480
do have that tie to the I'm rooting for the Eagles.

500
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,880
But I did find something interesting on Twitter about who

501
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,599
people are rooting for throughout the country, throughout the United

502
00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:00,640
States and I'm gonna show this really quick. So, okay,

503
00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:05,039
Missouri is for the Chiefs, Vans for Eagles, and everyone

504
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,319
else wants to see em mediority.

505
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: I think I saw in the chat somebody mentioned how

506
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:17,279
they want a sinkhole to just take the super super

507
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,279
domed down with it.

508
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, actually, actually, my son, Tyler sports guy, he

509
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,839
he posted that and I thought it was pretty pretty faint,

510
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,759
so pretty cool, all right, So I guess we can

511
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,720
probably move on to our next subject. I mean, let me,

512
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:35,519
in fact, let me get caught up on the chat

513
00:24:35,559 --> 00:24:37,640
real quick. I'm trying to scroll back out.

514
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'll give an update because I've had

515
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,640
like three questions already asked in the chat. I don't

516
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,079
want to feel I don't want to make them feel

517
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:47,559
like I'm ignoring him. So here's an update with the

518
00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:51,480
man cave being built. I started this project around Halloween

519
00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:54,599
time October thirtieth, I think it was. I hired some

520
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,319
contractors to help me do the remodel. The contractors came in,

521
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,640
knocked it out, did their porch. I decided, in an

522
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,279
effort to save some money, that I will tackle some

523
00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:08,960
of the work myself, especially on the finishing like base boards,

524
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,720
molding doors, that kind of thing. Well, then I ran

525
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:15,559
into a structure issue with my doors, which I'll get

526
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,759
into in a video, but that kind of delayed things.

527
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:22,279
And then the holidays rolled around and it was like, man,

528
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:24,480
this is a really bad time to start this kind

529
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,920
of project during the holidays, so that slowed things down.

530
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,200
But I am I will be finishing up that project today.

531
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,359
I have two bifold doors to hang, and I have

532
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,559
the televisions to hang, and it's done, and then I'll

533
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:40,599
be releasing a video. This will probably be the last

534
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:45,039
Hobby Hotline where I am upstairs. I am very urgently

535
00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,400
wanting to get downstairs because this room is really, really bright.

536
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,079
It's a sun room, and I have right now. I

537
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,640
had to hang some makeshift curtains on the windows because

538
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,039
it is like super bright in here this early in

539
00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:01,599
the morning. But yeah, we'll be heading downstairs real soon.

540
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was wondering about that when you got

541
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,599
on earlier. It's like, wow, Victor's not in his normal place. Yeah, okay,

542
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:08,759
well that's cool.

543
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: And Victor was great hearing you discuss the words degenerate

544
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:16,000
because I love how you research things. I'll still tell

545
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,680
the story of how when I mentioned the word I

546
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:21,920
mentioned diogenies, you actually did a ten minute video.

547
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,599
Speaker 3: Well you called me a diogenies and I didn't know what, Like,

548
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,799
what the heck did he just call me?

549
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: Did he?

550
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: There was no insult, you know, you know that was

551
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,920
a famous Greek person of the before the common error.

552
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so I guess we can move on

553
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,200
to the next topic. This has a lot again. This

554
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:46,000
is what we were alluding to with the conspiracy theorist.

555
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,599
It is the ongoing saga over the Paul Schimes debut

556
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,920
patch card. Seems to be a lot of people are

557
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,880
speculating that this eleven year old kid doesn't exist. This

558
00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:01,720
was all a ruse, you know, by fanatics and things

559
00:27:01,799 --> 00:27:05,119
like that. I will say this, you know, going back

560
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,440
to our previous subject about the comments from backyard breaks.

561
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,799
If I had an eleven year old kid and he

562
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,559
pulled this card, I don't think I would want his

563
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,440
picture all over. I can see that point. But what

564
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:18,839
I can what I would like to see is like

565
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000
maybe the dad coming out and say, hey, my son

566
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:23,440
pulled this card and now here it is. He's got

567
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,599
it in his hand and all this because we've never

568
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,559
seen any kind of picture of anybody holding this card

569
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,400
being proud that they pulled it. You know, I would

570
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,960
if I pulled that card, the world would know about it,

571
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,079
they would know who I was.

572
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,599
Speaker 2: I would be extremely proud. I mean, maybe they'd want

573
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:40,839
their privacy. I don't know.

574
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: But again, there's a lot of strange things going on.

575
00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:47,359
And then there's these journal entries, which you know, a

576
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,119
lot of people are thinking are fake. And of course

577
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:54,799
Fanatics is actually in this card, and people are going, hmm,

578
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:58,160
that's maybe that's a conflict of interests. So there's a

579
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,640
lot of weird things going on surrounding this card.

580
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: So rich, what are you thinking?

581
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: You know, one thing is and I'm going to kind

582
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,519
of tease Doctor Beckett and I were taking some podcasts

583
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:16,200
yesterday and we were talking about nineteen ninety two football

584
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:19,559
products and football companies, and a lot of them didn't

585
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:21,759
survive more than a you know, till ninety three or

586
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:24,640
ninety four, but there were a lot nineteen ninety two.

587
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:26,720
The old joke in ninety two was if you pay

588
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,279
the NFL or the NFLPA five thousand dollars, you can

589
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,000
get a license. Yeah. One of the companies that was

590
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:35,480
doing that. Did their first product in ninety one and

591
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:37,880
then did a better job of it in ninety two

592
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,839
was NFL Pro Line, and they had complete cooperation from

593
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:45,160
the league. They would dressed these people up in zoobos

594
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,680
or other you know, league approved attire. The ninety one

595
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,960
boxes had like one autograph every five boxes. Ninety two

596
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,720
I believe was one per box. So Fanatics has taken

597
00:28:57,079 --> 00:29:00,400
what the NFL did in the early nineties and moved

598
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,839
it to another level. They have done what they're with this.

599
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,359
They've done what they promised to do when they first

600
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:09,720
started in sports card. We want to control the whole process.

601
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:13,519
The debut patch is a great idea. I agree that

602
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:16,680
that's a great idea. And whoever pulled the card the

603
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,480
finat it ended up, it's now going to be sold

604
00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:23,039
off Fanatics collectibles and they and the great conspiracy theory

605
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:25,200
part of it is did they orchestrate the whole thing

606
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,680
up to and including finding some kid to write.

607
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:28,559
Speaker 2: A journal entry.

608
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: James wrote in his History of Baseball book, you can

609
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:37,079
always tell when a story is a legend because everything's

610
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,440
just too pat every part of its believable. But when

611
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,920
you look at it as a whole is it really believable?

612
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,559
And that's the reaction people are having to this. It's

613
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:47,880
not that every part of the store, every part of

614
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,119
the story is believable, yes, but as a whole, is

615
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:55,279
it really believable? And that's where the conspiracy theory stuff

616
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,799
is coming, you know, like, for example, did they kid

617
00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:59,839
really pull it on Christmas Day? I will tell you

618
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:04,359
story on that. Our local store, Triple Cards of Plano,

619
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:08,359
is part of a consortium of stores where the owner

620
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,200
owns a bunch of Triple Cards. He also owned some wax.

621
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,400
He also was involved with Sappi's and the Beasts in

622
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,880
this area. He's very very considerate where every places, new stores.

623
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,799
They had the first year they ever had the Secret Santa,

624
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:26,440
they had a secret Santa thing. And I drew somebody

625
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,880
to give my my things to who had actually given

626
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,599
me donations in the past, and they always said, you know,

627
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,200
try to go above you know the limit if you know,

628
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,880
if you feel like it. Well, he's given me donations,

629
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,519
He's always given me good grace. That shows when I

630
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:43,200
buy from him. Hecky, I was willing to give his kid,

631
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,920
who's who's a collector to and plays above the price.

632
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:50,000
The pri the the amount of money at the time.

633
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,480
You know, they took the box and there was a

634
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:55,720
prize for opening, like if you got a card worth

635
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:57,640
more than next dollars, you would get you know, an

636
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,799
extra thing free. But they did open that box that night.

637
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:03,519
They opened that box Christmas Day, and they got the

638
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:06,200
case sitting. Whether it was Pokemon or the Magic or whatever,

639
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,920
there was well above the money. I said, you know,

640
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,400
if you'd opened it that night, you would have gotten

641
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,640
another box. But they took the box home. So it

642
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,119
is very plausible to have a box opened on Christmas Day.

643
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,319
How many people open boxes on Christmas Day?

644
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: Well, I could say this.

645
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,279
Speaker 1: I bought I bought some boxes for my son, some

646
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,960
football boxes, and he I mean soon as he opened them,

647
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,839
you know, unwrapped them. He busted them, mean that quick.

648
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but a lot of people do wait till Christmas Day.

649
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,920
They'll wrap it up and they open it. And so

650
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:37,039
every part of the story is believable. But as the whole,

651
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,279
that's where people are looking.

652
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know there's a people there's people going, hey,

653
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:46,480
this thing double dined with PSA. So you know, and

654
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,079
a lot of people look at the autograph and they

655
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,079
go there's no way that can be a ten autograph

656
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:53,200
because apparently people showed, you know, they zoomed in and

657
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,440
showed where it went into where the patch was. So,

658
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,480
you know, like I said, there's a lot of people

659
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:01,039
that are wearing the tinfoil hats. I would like I

660
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:04,400
wish Chris was on here to talk about the p

661
00:32:04,519 --> 00:32:06,720
s a side of it from when it hit the building.

662
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,359
I would love to know some details about that, if

663
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:11,359
he could even divulge anything.

664
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,519
Speaker 4: Well, Chris posted some about something about that on his

665
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,200
Facebook page. I don't know how detailed it was, but

666
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,799
he did post on his Facebook page when it came in.

667
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:23,039
By the way, I'm subbing for Chris today. Yeah, we

668
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:25,160
traded by the way, he was originally supposed to be

669
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,680
on today.

670
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: So but uh, you know me personally, I think I

671
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,359
think it's a legit story.

672
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,039
Speaker 4: Uh.

673
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: I just the only thing I want to see out

674
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,799
of it is somebody, some real happy lottery ticket winner

675
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,920
showing their face.

676
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: Whether you know, you know.

677
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 4: There's a state look that you cannot protect your identity

678
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,960
if you're a lottery winner. Yet if I want a

679
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,759
big lottery I would probably not want it to be publicized. No,

680
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:53,680
and there's that element.

681
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,839
Speaker 1: Too well, you know, and the fact that the card

682
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,559
was pulled during Christmas and we just we heard about

683
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:01,799
it a month later. You know, maybe they were smart,

684
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,599
you know, like what I've talked about in the past,

685
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,119
where Okay, you pull something big, or you hit the

686
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,640
lottery or whatever, you go hire a lawyer, you go,

687
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,319
you go get an account, you go do all these

688
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:16,119
things first before you announced that you actually actually won

689
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,400
or pulled this card or whatever.

690
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,079
Speaker 2: So maybe that's what they did.

691
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,119
Speaker 4: And you know, and there's all sorts of stuff. I

692
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,920
saw somebody who posted you know, they did not you know,

693
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,599
like Tops on January third announced this card had not

694
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:32,799
surfaced and they but it was announced the next day. No,

695
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,960
I remember they didn't stay pulled. They said surfit right.

696
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:39,000
You know, that's also part of the conspiracy theory. You know,

697
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,960
everything has become you know, we're great at conspiracy theories

698
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,640
in this hobby.

699
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

700
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,599
Speaker 4: One thing I'm not going to say it is or

701
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,319
it isn't, but it's but give I want to say something.

702
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Give fanatics credit. They have done a masterful marketing job

703
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,599
with this, and they've also hit one of their mattress.

704
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:59,119
They said, we want to control this whole process from

705
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,279
making the card to selling the card. Well, guess what

706
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:03,799
other than getting the card graded a PSA because they

707
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:06,519
don't know if a grading company yet. Yeah, they've controlled

708
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,960
the whole process. That is actually well within the mantra

709
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:13,119
of what Fanatics has announced they would do. So this

710
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480
is actually very consistent with what they've talked about in

711
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:16,960
the past.

712
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: The only thing I throw a red flag on is

713
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:24,559
and I guess this was proven that Fanatics was notified

714
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,360
of this redemption on January third, and they didn't release

715
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,719
the announcement until January what was it, twenty fourth or

716
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,280
twenty sixth, somewhere in there, And so why was that?

717
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,880
Why did that happen? So there's a lot of theories

718
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,760
on why that happened. To me, that's the only part

719
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:48,280
that Candaly seems a little sketchy. I think though, to

720
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,440
agree with you, Rich if you were I like watching

721
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,519
the show Shark Tank on occasion, but if you were

722
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:57,840
to take that business model to the Sharks and tell

723
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,039
them that you're going to man factor the card, distribute

724
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:04,400
the card, you're going to get the card graded, and

725
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,880
then you're going to get the card sold, the Sharks

726
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,159
would probably think that that is a brilliant business plan.

727
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,039
What we consider as conflict of interest may appear more

728
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:22,920
like business genius. I don't think there's anything illegal because

729
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,880
they own the licenses for everything, so they've kind of

730
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:30,760
they are operating within the sphere of their authority, right,

731
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,199
And so yeah, the optics, right, we kind of don't

732
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,159
like it, we don't, you know, but as far as

733
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,519
them doing something illegal, and I don't think there's nothing there.

734
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,079
Speaker 4: No, there is nothing illegal at all about anything in

735
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,639
this process. And it's brilliant marketing. Yeah, And as I said,

736
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,280
they've done what was done thirty years ago by the

737
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,880
NFL and taken it to another level. And you know,

738
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,800
in terms of the marketing, the publicity, what great publicity

739
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,599
they had. I believe Rex posted the day they announced,

740
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:01,159
when the bounties all came out, how many people were

741
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,760
coming into his store to buy buy those packs. You know,

742
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,920
everybody wanted the lottery tickets. You know, it's one of

743
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,800
those things. And I want to when Orlando just brought

744
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,559
up an interesting point, and I want to kind of

745
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,000
address that in a different way. You're right, Orlando, it's

746
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:21,360
a monopoly, but the leagues wanted the leagues and the

747
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,559
players associate the leagues especially want to have a monopoly.

748
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:26,559
I have a really good friend of mine. He had

749
00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:30,079
an NFL funtal license twenty five thirty years ago, and

750
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:32,880
the NFL called him and says, we're not going to

751
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,159
renew your license, and it's nothing bad that you've done.

752
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,440
We are reducing our licenses from three hundred to thirty

753
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,599
because it's a lot easier to manage. And as a

754
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:44,960
you know, so to speak, a private entity, they have

755
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,039
the right to do that. And even though they said,

756
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,119
we love you, you pay your bills on time. You know,

757
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,719
he was an accountant, he had an accounting background. He

758
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,280
always did perfect accounting. You know, everything was done to

759
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,519
the tee. They just go, you're you're, you're one level

760
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:00,320
below and so we're just going to go with the

761
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,679
bigger person. And there was no acrimony, nothing bad. It

762
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,719
was a legitimate business decision to reduce the licenses they

763
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,280
had from three hundred to thirty. A monopoly is well

764
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,280
within the realm, especially the way Fanatas is doing where

765
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,039
they have buying from the players and the leagues. You know,

766
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:22,239
this is what they want to what they want to do.

767
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:25,039
I'm not saying again, this is this and we can

768
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:28,400
agree or disagree whether we lik it in the hobby,

769
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,320
but it is something consistent with what they want to

770
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,239
do as a company.

771
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

772
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:36,119
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but that's a great looking signature.

773
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,599
Speaker 2: I agree. I think he did well. I mean didn't they.

774
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,079
Speaker 1: I think there was a video where they showed him

775
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:43,840
actually signing that car before they.

776
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:46,079
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a great looking signature.

777
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: I do see where it's like hitting the foil there.

778
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that doesn't affect the signature. I guess it's this.

779
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,719
Remember it's the autograph. You're not talking about what it's hitting.

780
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,599
You're actually looking at. If you're an autograph grad, you're

781
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:03,840
grading the autograph, not does it touch the you know, Yeah,

782
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,800
if the autograph is a ten, it's a ten. You know,

783
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,960
excuse me, But if the card is a ten, it's

784
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,360
a ten. Now. I haven't seen anybody disagree that it's

785
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,559
not a nice signature or that it's not a nice card.

786
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,599
You know, it's you're not seeing, oh this is an

787
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:19,159
eight and an eight. You're not hearing that. And I mean,

788
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,840
let's be honest, that's a beautiful Again, that's just a

789
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,280
good looking I agree.

790
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,199
Speaker 1: It's not a scribble scribble as we call it on

791
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,599
nascard radio where they just kind of just put a

792
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:32,360
little whatever, you know.

793
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:33,559
Speaker 3: For two initials.

794
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little a little slash on there, and they

795
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,719
call that a signature.

796
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

797
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: I agree, that's that is a nice looking card, all right.

798
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: So I guess let's move on to our next subject,

799
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:49,519
and it is PSA price increases in the backle PSA,

800
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,280
I think on January seventeenth, raised their prices and it's

801
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,320
starting to get pretty pretty hefty degrade a card these days.

802
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,519
You you don't want to grade any common cards. You're

803
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,239
going to be grading some bigger cards.

804
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: And I know, I know for a fact. You know,

805
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,079
and I am pro p s A got the hat.

806
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:08,599
Speaker 4: Well you're a ps A Hall of Famer.

807
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:10,199
Speaker 2: Come on, this is true.

808
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,679
Speaker 1: Uh, it's getting it's getting harder and harder for me

809
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,760
to to get cards graded. I'm actually living off their

810
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,039
special I'm trying not to just send in cards at

811
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:25,400
the regular prices. So what do you guys think about

812
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,880
more price increases at p S. I mean, I know

813
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,800
they've got a lot of cards, and I guess a

814
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,280
way to stem the orders coming in is to increase

815
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,239
prices and that will slow it down at least in theory.

816
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: Well for me as a as a P S A

817
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:45,639
A Fi Sonato myself, I felt like the price increases

818
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,639
were minimal at my I think it was like a

819
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,000
dollar on the lowen bulk right where the big increase

820
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,639
was on the high end stuff. I think that's all

821
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,960
like one hundred dollars increase if I'm not mistaken, if

822
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,800
I remember right. But people who are really grading those

823
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,239
types of cards don't have they don't have a problem

824
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:11,000
paying the.

825
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 4: Extra hundred times.

826
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 3: But on the low end. You know, again, I'm like,

827
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,679
I'm like, I'm doing the same thing you are, Logan,

828
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,440
and that's I'm living off the specials on the grand

829
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,559
scheme of things. It is making me, you know, think

830
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:32,199
twice about sending in you know, lower end cards, and

831
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,920
I think they've been trying to manage that for some

832
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:38,760
time now. You know, there's a lot of debate on

833
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,760
whether you should be sending in base cards. Well, you know,

834
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,800
I don't have a problem sending in a base rookie card,

835
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,639
but you know maybe that you know, a twenty eighteen

836
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,519
base card of Steph Curry might be a little you

837
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:58,440
gotta think twice about making that move because you know

838
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,719
secondary market rice is on that, So you just better

839
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,320
off just buying that outright instead of sending one in

840
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,800
because now the price is it doesn't justify the means.

841
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,360
So and and I think as far as the backlog

842
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,679
is concerned, I think they're they're making a good move

843
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:16,960
as far as getting ahead of the curve, and they're

844
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,519
trying to manage the amount of flow that's coming in.

845
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,320
And I think that's a good thing. But I think

846
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,199
they might have over overbit on that. For I guess

847
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,960
that game stop thing is what's really causing this backlog.

848
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:34,320
So they they're gonna have to they're gonna have to

849
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,000
straighten this mess out, hopefully sooner rather than later. I

850
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:40,280
hear it's only supposed to be like two or three weeks.

851
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,599
I wish again, Chris, I wish Chris would have been here,

852
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:46,000
you could have spoken on it. But yeah, we'll see

853
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,239
what happens. We'll see what happens. I got I got

854
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,199
my next batch ready to go, and I'm hoping that

855
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,039
it's uh, we cleared this up quick.

856
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,199
Speaker 4: Okay. I'm gonna provide again a little different way of

857
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,039
looking at it. I work for a company. That is,

858
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,440
when I started at COMCE in twenty seventeen, it was

859
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,639
a quarter per card to send the card in. It's

860
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,119
now fifty cents a card. We're still getting tons of

861
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:10,440
cards in. But we've had the same issues. You know,

862
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:13,599
there are issues. There's also you know, there are things

863
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,639
we do to mitigate some of the costs on some

864
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,559
of the things. We have things called fresh pulls we

865
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:24,440
have at shows. Sometimes there were discounts for select and

866
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:27,760
elite processing and all. But you know, one of the

867
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,920
things that was that we were all running over time.

868
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,360
When we were at a quarter per card, we were

869
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,159
just we were just struggling to keep up with what

870
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,239
we had. And that was eight years ago, pre pandemic.

871
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,360
We were getting very busy, just even before the pandemic began.

872
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,239
And price increases are you have to run the numbers

873
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,039
and see what works. And you know, I'm sure Tim

874
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,960
Julie and the upper management at com see run the

875
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:57,199
numbers all the time. I guarantee you, Nat Turner and

876
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,079
the people at PSA run the numbers and see what's

877
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:03,719
going to work. And if the numbers don't work after

878
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,880
being implemented, then things will get adjusted again, or specials

879
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,559
will be run. So these are things companies have to do.

880
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:13,840
I remember when I was at Beckett, you know, when

881
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,039
dinosaurs roam the earth. You know, it was a big

882
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:21,239
thing when Doctor Jim and the team raised the price

883
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,239
of the magazine from two fifty to two ninety five.

884
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:28,320
And he wasn't real happy about going from two fifty

885
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,639
to two ninety five, but it was a necessary business move.

886
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:34,960
You know. I run a show for my synagogue. I

887
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,599
always wanted to be one dollar to get in the door.

888
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,000
I wanted you to, you know, and we always ran it. Hey,

889
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:42,840
you know, if you really want to come in, just

890
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,440
come on, you know, come in. You know, now we're

891
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,679
two dollars. And one of the reasons for two dollars

892
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:50,800
is for various reasons. We have a security officer or

893
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:56,280
a police officer at the shop, and there's there's reasons

894
00:43:56,599 --> 00:44:00,840
both religious based and safety based to do that, and

895
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,960
it frustrated me. The very first time we raised it

896
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,960
from one to two dollars was after a shoot. We

897
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
didn't raise at the first show. We had a shooting

898
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:11,559
at the Alan alt Leckmall like two weeks before the show.

899
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:13,760
We great, you know, what's probably a good idea to

900
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,119
have increased security, have a police officer here. The police

901
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:20,880
officer was approximately I forgot if it was fifty or

902
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,719
fifty five dollars an hour to half him. We absorbed

903
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,119
the cost because I wasn't going to raise a price

904
00:44:26,159 --> 00:44:28,199
two weeks before the show. I was going to honor

905
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,719
whatever price I had posted. I'm not raising a price

906
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,119
two weeks before the show to have people come in.

907
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:36,719
A few people did help and give us extra money

908
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,719
towards that, and I'm very appreciative. But sometimes costs go up,

909
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,039
and when costs go up, you have to figure out

910
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,239
how to do things.

911
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: Orlando makes a great point, you know. There you go,

912
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:47,840
there's your answer.

913
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: SGC. By the way, SGC, don't forget his own by

914
00:44:51,559 --> 00:44:52,159
PSA two.

915
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, this is true.

916
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: You know, I'm all in with PSA. I'm a set

917
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,480
registry guys. So you know the only thing that that

918
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,760
I guess I probably don't like about these price increases

919
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,159
is that it makes it hard for me to try

920
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:10,519
to put any new sets on the set registry because

921
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,559
there are common cards that are just not worth grading

922
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:15,519
at that price. So it makes it tough. But I

923
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:20,199
will say that PSA. They sent me a coupon code

924
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,719
for a credit. It was one hundred and fifty dollars

925
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,639
towards my order. This has been several months ago to

926
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,519
help It was a set registry thing where they to

927
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:32,000
help offset costs, you know, to get cards that you know,

928
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:35,440
common cards graded. So that was actually really nice and

929
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,400
I hope they do something like that again soon.

930
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: Thank you for posting that on X by the way,

931
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,280
because I took advantage of that special myself.

932
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you did. You have to go back and

933
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,800
look for emails and yeah, yeah found you got a

934
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,719
code too. Yeah, that was very helpful.

935
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: And I thought it was a PSA Hall of Famer

936
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:54,079
deal only.

937
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: No, it's for ever. It was for everybody.

938
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,599
Speaker 1: Well I don't know if it was for everybody, but

939
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:04,079
it was for I think that registry members. So yeah,

940
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:07,800
and you're talking about the backlog. I had some orders

941
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,480
that took about a month between the time that they

942
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,280
actually hit the p s A mothership and we're actually

943
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,119
put into the system. But then since then, uh, especially

944
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,480
this week, I have seen a lot of movement. I've

945
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:23,480
got like four orders and man, they're just going bam

946
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:26,280
bam bam, they're going from grading to encapsulation.

947
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 2: They're the q A.

948
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,599
Speaker 1: I mean they're going quick, quick, quick, and I actually

949
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,599
have one that's actually on its way back. So I think,

950
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:35,119
what's once they get into the system. I think maybe

951
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,920
there's a there there could possibly be an issue with

952
00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:40,639
you know, just the receiving side of the of the

953
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:43,079
house because they they're getting so many packages.

954
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: But once they get into the system.

955
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: They seem to be moving quite well, at least from

956
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,159
from you know, my vantage. I don't know about you, Victor.

957
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,079
All right, So, uh, one more thing that I wanted

958
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:58,960
to talk about. Let's see here you've got that.

959
00:46:59,719 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

960
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: I do want to show something real quick.

961
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: I didn't talk about this with you guys, but I've

962
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,440
been getting a lot of mail lately, and there's there's

963
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,760
some really good packaging things that I have seen that

964
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,920
are people people are making. Uh And trust me, I'm

965
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,079
not getting paid by anybody to talk.

966
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: About these things. But one of the things I saw was.

967
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:24,679
Speaker 1: The clicking field and you can put you can put

968
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,039
cards in here inside and then you can seal the envelope.

969
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,000
It's it's made by a company called shipping Shield. You

970
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:33,599
can go to shipping shield us dot com.

971
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: But these are nice. They're very light, but these protect

972
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,159
the cards.

973
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: And I've gotten a couple of these in the mail

974
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:40,880
like this, and I just thought it was really neat

975
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,719
that people are making these kind of solutions to help

976
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:44,199
the hobby.

977
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 3: You can put a top loader in that or what

978
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,119
is that just a penny sleep.

979
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,199
Speaker 1: I think it's a top loader. Let me see if

980
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,079
toploader will fit in here? No toploaded, there'd be a.

981
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,039
Speaker 2: Penny sleeve, a penny sleeve.

982
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, I guess if you're doing a plane

983
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:00,440
plain lie envelope, you know that you can put that

984
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:01,400
in here or.

985
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: That in the envelope.

986
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

987
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, you can see it, see it. It's

988
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,960
made by shipping ship. And then something else. I really

989
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:10,559
I saw that somebody sent a card in. Actually it

990
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:14,159
was a graded card. It was sending this box from

991
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,840
No City Designed. And this box opens up and you

992
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,840
can put a graded card in. Let's see, I've got

993
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,599
a graded card somewhere. We'll put put the card in.

994
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 4: That's interesting.

995
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what I think is good and I actually

996
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:28,760
ordered some of these, is you can put the graded

997
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,480
card is you can see you put the Grady card

998
00:48:30,519 --> 00:48:32,800
in there, and you can shut it and then you

999
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,000
can put it in a in a bubble mailer, and

1000
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:37,000
I think the card is gonna gonna make it to

1001
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:37,599
you just find.

1002
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: In fact, that's how I got this box.

1003
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:42,039
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's really and these are things that

1004
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:45,079
I was totally unaware of until I actually received some

1005
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:45,639
of the mail.

1006
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: And like I said, I actually went and bought some

1007
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:47,800
of these.

1008
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,639
Speaker 1: You can buy, like I think the minimum mortars twenty five,

1009
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:53,679
So I bought like twenty five, and they were they were,

1010
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:57,320
you know, very very inexpensive. Really, but you can go

1011
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,880
to No City Design and find me. I just thought

1012
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,320
that these were neat. I just wanted people to know

1013
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,480
about them, and if you need supplies to ship, because

1014
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,639
I know we got a lot of folks out here

1015
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:10,360
that ship a lot.

1016
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:12,199
Speaker 2: Of cards, that this would be helpful.

1017
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,079
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's it's an additional expense, but

1018
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,320
I think it's it's worth it actually to think about this.

1019
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff.

1020
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: I just ended up. I used to cut my hand

1021
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,760
now a couple of pieces of cardboard to kind of

1022
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,159
like sandwich the cards. I've since stopped doing that because

1023
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:33,840
it's time consuming and I just didn't have the time

1024
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,639
to take on such a task. But I ended up

1025
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,920
going on Amazon and I found a pre cut pieces

1026
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,079
of cardboard already in like a bundle of like one

1027
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:48,840
hundred for like nineteen ninety five, and I jumped all

1028
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,840
over it, and man has that been And they're perfectly

1029
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,320
machine cut, you know, really nice, and it just saved

1030
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,960
a bunch of time. But this is like next level

1031
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,880
stuff now with the putting inside the little box and

1032
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,400
that I still have to sandwich the cards and tape

1033
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:08,960
each side so that that still.

1034
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: Takes a little bit of time.

1035
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,639
Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to get little things to save

1036
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,679
time when you're you know, listing and shipping and shipping

1037
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,880
and listing, as Bau would say. But yeah, I'm interested

1038
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,880
because I know bo on his program. You know, we've

1039
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,079
had the talks about, you know, people leaving a negative

1040
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:29,159
feedback because you shipped the card in a in a

1041
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,920
what do they call that, Oh my goodness, not a

1042
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,360
top loader but the one the card saver, card saver,

1043
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:39,400
thank you. So there's been debates, right, should I ship

1044
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,159
on a card saver or shipping a top loader? I

1045
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,440
ship in top loaders, I have, but I have seen

1046
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,800
people get upset about you shipping their card in a

1047
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,199
card saver. I'm wondering how they would respond to that

1048
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,400
little that first one you showed.

1049
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,159
Speaker 4: And don't forget they also get upset. There's painters tape

1050
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:00,639
for something on the cardloaders too, to help keep the

1051
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,960
card in the holder. I mean, if somebody will find

1052
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,039
a complaint about everything.

1053
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:07,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, does that have a little sticky tab on it?

1054
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,519
Speaker 2: Logan? It does not.

1055
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: You can just put a little piece of tape on there, Okay,

1056
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,360
but it kind of looks like it does, but it

1057
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,239
really doesn't.

1058
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: Okay. It tells you do not tuck that in because

1059
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,760
it possibly damage the card. Yeah, I wouldn't mind, you.

1060
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 4: Know, honestly, all the cards I do, I haven't bought

1061
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:26,039
or sold mail order in so many years that so

1062
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,360
I'm gonna be honest. There's enough here in Dallas area

1063
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,559
where for me, this whole conversation is a little bit irrelevant,

1064
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,920
understanding that we're very lucky here that I don't have

1065
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,239
to worry about stuff outside the area, so to speak.

1066
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the fact that there's a lot of

1067
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,800
innovative people doing some innovative things in.

1068
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,159
Speaker 2: The hobby to actually help collectors.

1069
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,559
Speaker 1: And like I said, These are a couple of examples

1070
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,639
of these things, and again I had no idea anything

1071
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,599
like this existed till I got it, and they were

1072
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:57,960
easy to find on the internet.

1073
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna check them out, Logan, thank you.

1074
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, these boxes are great. I mean, I'm going to

1075
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,159
reuse this box that somebody sent me. And like I said,

1076
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:06,719
I bought a twenty five pack of these of these

1077
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,119
so when I I don't ship a lot of stuff,

1078
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:11,719
when I do, I'm definitely gonna use this box with

1079
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,079
a bubble.

1080
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,559
Speaker 3: So people wants to know if they're made from recycled materials.

1081
00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:19,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't say I don't see the recycled I

1082
00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,079
don't see the recycled symbol on any I love that

1083
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:27,559
question though, Yeah, so yeah, yeah, the rainforest doesn't like this.

1084
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:30,559
Speaker 2: Let's see.

1085
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:34,039
Speaker 1: Uh says he may shipped cards in cereal boxes back

1086
00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:35,039
in the early two thousands.

1087
00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 2: You go, yeah, people who are doing that.

1088
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: But we're approaching the top of the hour. I think

1089
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,639
that was a nice lighter touch to anadon.

1090
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1091
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,159
Speaker 1: I thought I thought everybody would like that. Like I said,

1092
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:48,440
I I kind of went crazy one night, Rich. I

1093
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:50,880
got on the internet and I was looking for funny

1094
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,840
name cards, and I found a bunch and I ordered

1095
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,679
all of them, and some of them came in those boxes,

1096
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,559
so I thought it was really really neat.

1097
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,199
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm glad You're Sophomoric Slabs collection is

1098
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,280
trucking right along.

1099
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,639
Speaker 2: It is. I've I've got a backlog.

1100
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:08,039
Speaker 1: Actually I'm just trying to release one or two a week,

1101
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,119
but I've got a backlog of probably thirty that I've got.

1102
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 2: So it's it's I found a lot of funny names.

1103
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,039
Speaker 4: So but you probably have some names I have. I

1104
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:19,239
try to find you name. When I see an interesting name,

1105
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,000
I send them to you.

1106
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I really appreciate that.

1107
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,559
Speaker 1: And I got a lot of friends out there that

1108
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:26,119
are always sending me names and things.

1109
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: So it's it's very helpful. So that's really cool.

1110
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,639
Speaker 4: See that. That way, you're going to have the number

1111
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:33,800
one registry of Sophomoric Slabs.

1112
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: Yes, no, no doubt.

1113
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's let's close this.

1114
00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: Down, all right.

1115
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's just let me say that I want

1116
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:46,199
to thank everybody for spending their Saturday morning with us.

1117
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1118
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,679
Speaker 1: Next week we will return with your favorite hobby host.

1119
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,079
So I'm not sure who's going to be on next weekend.

1120
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 4: I know doctor Jim's one of the three.

1121
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: Doctor Jim. Well, that's that's a must watch for sure.

1122
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:01,199
Speaker 1: Uh So I do want to tell happy collecting, have

1123
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,360
a happy collecting weekend. If you're going to a show,

1124
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,079
that's great. I wish I was going to a show,

1125
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:08,039
went to one last week. I always loved going to those.

1126
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,480
And uh, do you guys have any final parting words?

1127
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 4: Hey, this was the only weekend in DFW without a

1128
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,760
card show. I'm glad I could be on today.

1129
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: We're glad to grad to have you.

1130
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: Rich I gotta show card or they're gonna get mad

1131
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:20,719
at us.

1132
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, let's do that.

1133
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 4: Let me no card to show, So the two of

1134
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,159
you show cards.

1135
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll show a card. What you got there, victory,

1136
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,559
it's kind of hard to see.

1137
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,519
Speaker 3: Aitln Clark, rookie, go ahead, that's all I am.

1138
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,039
Speaker 2: Okay.

1139
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: I've got this really cool Richard Petty Zebra PSA ten

1140
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:39,880
card that I got in mailed the other that.

1141
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: I love that card.

1142
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:44,159
Speaker 1: It's it's also a high number in this year's twenty

1143
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:46,159
twenty four select which are very tough.

1144
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 4: I mean, and I have a couple of cards on

1145
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,400
my desk. This is one of the great photos nice

1146
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,880
and the official card at my desk, and so it

1147
00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:58,880
forgive me this is a little bit sexist, but she's beautiful.

1148
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:08,519
Speaker 1: On that note, on that, on that note, i think

1149
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:11,519
I'm getting getting ready to uh, to play the outro

1150
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,840
real quick. So everybody, have a great weekend. Glad you

1151
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,360
could make it, and we will see you guys later