Speaker 1: Welcome to teen Girl Talk.
Speaker 2: Teen Girl Talk.
Speaker 1: I'm ceuzy Coota, I'm freaking Coda, and this week we
Speaker 1: are going way way back twenty five years ago and
Speaker 1: talking about but I'm a Cheerleader, a.
Speaker 2: Movie that makes conversion camp look way more fun than
Speaker 2: it actually is.
Speaker 1: I mean, this movie is both about camp and is
Speaker 1: very campy, like it's hearing RuPaul's voice out of drag
Speaker 1: is so disorienting, and.
Speaker 2: So it's so nice to see Clay Devall like she
Speaker 2: was like big in the nineties and early odds, like.
Speaker 1: When she whenever she was like brooding. In this movie,
Speaker 1: she reminded me so much of Josh Harnett, which then
Speaker 1: reminded me of The Faculty.
Speaker 2: God, I Love The Faculty.
Speaker 1: A nineties horror movie that needs no notes. Perfect eight
Speaker 1: plus ten out of ten.
Speaker 2: Okay, especially because at the end when John Stewart appears,
Speaker 2: like with all the wounds that have happened to him,
Speaker 2: he used like the thumbs up and then like his
Speaker 2: donut falls off his finger because his.
Speaker 1: Fingers got bitten off by a monster.
Speaker 2: I know Joss Hearnett cut them off, like with the
Speaker 2: he pulls off the paper shredder not the paper like
Speaker 2: the paper cutter blade the same. Yeah, math Reagan kills
Speaker 2: the one dude inm Reagan. Uh also very pumped for.
Speaker 2: With Reagan two point zero coming out pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Obviously we'll be covering that. Bill has never seen the
Speaker 1: first one, so when we saw the preview the other day,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that looks good. He's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know the premise, and I was like, how is
Speaker 1: that possible.
Speaker 2: I'm really glad they kept both the PG thirteen versions.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't need R rated horror
Speaker 2: movies like PG thirteen anyway.
Speaker 1: Can I have this thing in high school where we
Speaker 1: loved the edited for TV Comedy Central version of Saving Silverman?
Speaker 1: And then I lent that VHS to a friend because
Speaker 1: there was another I think maybe I'd also taped Fight
Speaker 1: Club on that VHS and I never got a back
Speaker 1: and I was so mad because the like unedited version
Speaker 1: is less funny because it's just cusses instead of them
Speaker 1: yelling like die fake friend. It's like die f slur
Speaker 1: or fward or something.
Speaker 2: So what happens is what's his name?
Speaker 1: Jason Big It's big Man.
Speaker 2: Things is like his girlfriend fiance is like meet your
Speaker 2: new friends. They're like business people and like Steve, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Steve Son and Jack Black see them and they're like
Speaker 2: in the original movie, they're like fuck you fake friends.
Speaker 2: Insteady're like die fake friends.
Speaker 3: Which is like not necessarily better, Like I get that
Speaker 3: it's not a cup, but again, somebody Central was like
Speaker 3: basic cable.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they could say cusses if they wanted.
Speaker 2: Well, they have. They have the whole episode where in
Speaker 2: South Park where they said, like shit, a whole bunch.
Speaker 2: But but also, okay, so this is the last thing
Speaker 2: I want to say, and then we'll get into the
Speaker 2: movie because it's very good. I really enjoyed this movie.
Speaker 2: So I was in the hospital h for I just
Speaker 2: had something going on with my tonsils, and I watched
Speaker 2: Avengers and because there was nothing really else to watch.
Speaker 2: But it was a weird edited version where they cut
Speaker 2: out some of the cusses and with kind of a
Speaker 2: lot of the cusses. And there's the part where Captain
Speaker 2: America fights himself because of time travel and he is
Speaker 2: supposed to stop and look at his butt and go,
Speaker 2: that's America's ass, and he does that in the movie,
Speaker 2: but they cut out that's America's ass. So he just stops,
Speaker 2: looks at his butt for good five seconds, says nothing,
Speaker 2: and then leaves gets better.
Speaker 4: I think keep the version of Avengers where Steve Rogers
Speaker 4: is just a pervert about himself, a creepy, silent pervert.
Speaker 2: I mean it is a good butt like but anyway,
Speaker 2: we're gotta be talking about well, in this first shot,
Speaker 2: we get a lot of butts and a lot of
Speaker 2: female anime. So our movie opens with chick habit by
Speaker 2: April April March a movie. I remember first hearing in
Speaker 2: death Proof by Quentin Tarantine.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You said, yeah song. I remember first seeing death Proof,
Speaker 2: and I feel like.
Speaker 1: When Tarantino got so much credit for using that song,
Speaker 1: this movie came out before that, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think it's used way better here. But I
Speaker 2: can see I understand why it works in both things.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, the leaders in this one like
Speaker 2: like hang pooch, chick have it, you know, hang it up, Daddy.
Speaker 2: And then in the movie it does sound kind of
Speaker 2: like a like a car rivving, like the guitar part
Speaker 2: like that d darn Darren do anyway, So yeah, we're
Speaker 2: just seeing a bunch of cheer leaders doing some jumps,
Speaker 2: and we're focusing so heavily on like you know them.
Speaker 1: It's it's like a sort of like a very leering gaze.
Speaker 5: Yes, and and so then we cut to Natasha Leone
Speaker 5: plays Megan, the head cheer leader, and she is super
Speaker 5: stoked for the upcoming game.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, let's kill him. Her boyfriend is definitely
Speaker 1: like the prototypical or archetypical nineties hunk, and he the
Speaker 1: kissing is not a good watch. I know that it's
Speaker 1: exaggerated for effects. I was like, I need this scene
Speaker 1: to end. It's like they've never well, she's not really
Speaker 1: kissing him back at all. So he's doing like two
Speaker 1: and they're making out in the car and she is
Speaker 1: thinking back to all of the cheerleaders again and she's like,
Speaker 1: I have to go to dinner and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on. And then there's more. I would call it
Speaker 1: tongue forward kissing. It's not not great.
Speaker 2: He just he just comes at her like a lampary,
Speaker 2: just wide open, like circular, just trying to swallow her face.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, oh, there's ever like you ever
Speaker 2: need to Like I've always heard that.
Speaker 1: When she's flashing back to him when she's in the camp.
Speaker 1: It's without sound because she's having sort of like a
Speaker 1: replay of different moments where she's realized that that she
Speaker 1: is gay, but just of visual him being like.
Speaker 2: So I was like, come on, yeah.
Speaker 1: It was effective. I was like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: The part for me is like, how did she date
Speaker 1: this man for two years?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Before before we go on, I just want to
Speaker 2: quickly I think we do have to quickly say some
Speaker 2: trigger warnings. We are probably gonna to be talking about
Speaker 2: homophobia and conversion camps and probably transphobia at a certain point.
Speaker 2: If I think of any others, check the show notes.
Speaker 2: That will be the complete ones that I'll pick up
Speaker 2: on the editing. I don't mention them now. So she
Speaker 2: gets home, Mary gets home, Megan, Megan, Yeah, Megan gets home.
Speaker 2: And oh also her friend is Michelle Williams.
Speaker 1: Like this is like pre Michelle Williams being like nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also Melanie Lynskey is in this is like everyone is
Speaker 1: a baby in this movie obviously because it was twenty
Speaker 1: five years old or twenty five years ago. But Melanie
Speaker 1: Lindsey I was like, is she actually Australian? Because I
Speaker 1: did not pick up on that at all. In Okay,
Speaker 1: so dyl is here, Jill says, yes, she is. So
Speaker 1: they allowed her just to have like her natural accent,
Speaker 1: but I didn't pick up at it at all. I've
Speaker 1: seen her in a ton of stuff, including yellow Jackets.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's really interesting. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: But she is also at the camp so but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's sorry, I'm skipping ahead. So Michelle Williams like, this
Speaker 1: is absolutely like such a bit part and it's so
Speaker 1: interesting to like see her as like a supporting character
Speaker 1: because I feel like that never happens.
Speaker 2: But it's just like going like watching Revenge of the
Speaker 2: Creature the Black Lagoon and there's just a random scientist
Speaker 2: and it's Clint Eastwood and you're like, wow, really here,
Speaker 2: huh let me know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you're gonna say Helen Maren was in
Speaker 1: it or something.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think Helmere now how long has been
Speaker 2: some garbage. But she's just like I want to be
Speaker 2: Jathan Staphan's mom in the past and Furors movies, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, come on, like, who wouldn't. So have you seen
Speaker 1: the video of him, uh trying out for the Olympics,
Speaker 1: jes them. Yes, he tried out to be twice to
Speaker 1: be on the diving team.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, and now he's just like I will use
Speaker 2: my fists to take out the anger for not being
Speaker 2: an Olympic.
Speaker 1: So like, I just feel like this is there are
Speaker 1: people that are so determined that they're going to succeed
Speaker 1: in something, and you know, like even I think even
Speaker 1: to try out for the Olympics, you have to be
Speaker 1: a pretty accomplished sports per athlete. I cannot remember the
Speaker 1: word for athlete. You have to be a pretty accomplished athlete.
Speaker 1: So like I don't think that's anything just you're at
Speaker 1: it seems like he, you know, he was pretty doing
Speaker 1: okay before he became one of the biggest movie stars
Speaker 1: in the world. He just had that vibe about him
Speaker 1: that like if it wasn't going to be that, it's
Speaker 1: going to be the gals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we had this this olympian come from our
Speaker 2: hometown and like like he came in, he came in
Speaker 2: like less in his event, and like all these people
Speaker 2: were like commenting on the Facebook page our town made
Speaker 2: for him, or like people from our town made for him,
Speaker 2: and we were all coming to the fan, he's like
Speaker 2: he came sixteenth in the world, like eight billion people,
Speaker 2: he's the sixteenth best at this, like you know, and
Speaker 2: like I couldn't, Like I've seen his I've seen his
Speaker 2: uh routines. I couldn't do what he does, Like he
Speaker 2: does trampoline that that shit's insane because you're going like
Speaker 2: twenty feet in the year and then doing sick flips
Speaker 2: like it was.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would really love to know what soapbox
Speaker 1: people are getting on to criticize an olympian, Like I
Speaker 1: would be like, please send me your CV. I would
Speaker 1: love to know about your accomplishment.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's probably it's probably the same people who will
Speaker 2: go on the subreddits and just like, oh, she's not
Speaker 2: as hot. I'm sure. I'm like, uh huh, you probably
Speaker 2: look like warmed up goat cheese. Like all these dudes
Speaker 2: coming on like female actors and are on acts like
Speaker 2: a bit fugly looking old I'm like, yeah, huh.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing, right, Like, if you're not
Speaker 1: in the game at all, it's like easy to criticize
Speaker 1: because there are no stakes, right, Like, no one's going
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, hey, you're like bad at dating.
Speaker 1: Or generally being in the world because they're like, Nope,
Speaker 1: not even trying, Like I hate quit before. It's not
Speaker 1: even quit before your head, it's quit before you stride.
Speaker 2: It all like didn't even qualify.
Speaker 1: Did not play so okay. The premise of this film
Speaker 1: is that Natasha Leoni and I love I think it's
Speaker 1: like a long Island accent, but I love that her
Speaker 1: New York accent comes through in parts because she's like
Speaker 1: clearly supposed to be living in the Midwest. But Natasha
Speaker 1: and I like to describe the aesthetic of this film.
Speaker 1: There there was this vibe about nineties indie film where
Speaker 1: a lot of vintage clothing, super bright colors, uh, sort
Speaker 1: of anachronistic scenes like uh John Waters movies or Todd Haynes,
Speaker 1: where everything is sort of proceeding as usual, right like
Speaker 1: uh over critical parents. Everything in her her life pre
Speaker 1: camp is like beige, beige and browns. Once she's tricked
Speaker 1: into going to the camp after an intervention run by
Speaker 1: RuPaul whose name is Mike, which just feels strange. Rue Ball,
Speaker 1: even out of drag is roughly seven feet tall, that
Speaker 1: is wearing the smallest shorts you've ever seen. So then
Speaker 1: just looks like seventy percent legs. So that's why I
Speaker 1: like in Heels, Ruehaul is like it has to be
Speaker 1: like a f tall, Like I'm not even joking, like
Speaker 1: so tall, but they Megan's dad is played by Bud Court,
Speaker 1: who is both in Places the Accountant in the Life
Speaker 1: Aquatic with Steve Zisu, as well as is in Harold
Speaker 1: and Maud, which is like a really big movie. When
Speaker 1: I was in college, it had like a resurgence. But uh,
Speaker 1: they it seems like this is mostly his wife's doing.
Speaker 1: That she is religious and upset that her daughter is
Speaker 1: possibly a lesbian, and they tell her like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be two months and then you'll get to come
Speaker 1: home from camp, and she's like, what are you guys
Speaker 1: talking about. Initially, Megan doesn't deny being a lesbian. She's
Speaker 1: just kind of like, what are you guys talking about?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, the reasons for thinking she's a lesbian is
Speaker 2: that she's into Melissa Etheridge and into vegetarianism.
Speaker 1: But also though, Frank that weird poster in her locker
Speaker 1: that is just a headless bikini body for the because
Speaker 1: it is strange, not because there's anything wrong with being gay,
Speaker 1: like everyone could be gay all day, happy pride, but like,
Speaker 1: why doesn't the woman have a head?
Speaker 2: I mean that's a fair points.
Speaker 1: Like there is a discussion about objectification later in the movie,
Speaker 1: but I was like, what a funny prop. Like they're
Speaker 1: whoever did the prop work on this movie must have
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun because they also showed this
Speaker 1: gigantic body villow that has a flower and I'm using
Speaker 1: quotation marks because it's like very like yonic and they're like,
Speaker 1: even your art looks like this. And so she ends
Speaker 1: up at the camp and is given the tour by
Speaker 1: Melanie Lynsky, who is sort of like the teacher's pet
Speaker 1: to Mary who runs the camp, maryusl By. She looks
Speaker 1: really familiar, but I can't tell what else she is in.
Speaker 1: I feel, Jeffy moyaty, what has she been in?
Speaker 2: Give mee keep going and I'll find some stuff.
Speaker 1: So Melanie Linsky's character says, it's pretty simple. In the morning,
Speaker 1: we do outdoors, uff after lunch we have to go inside.
Speaker 1: We get some free time. And on weekends it's uh
Speaker 1: family therapy, pretty straightforward. And she shows Megan the chart
Speaker 1: and there are five steps to no longer being gay,
Speaker 1: and like, obviously everything in this movie is very tongue
Speaker 1: in cheek and it's all satire.
Speaker 2: The entire house is blue and pink.
Speaker 1: And deep greens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like it's too much for the eyes sometimes. Oh,
Speaker 2: she was in Foxfire.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's definitely not how I remember her.
Speaker 2: Copland Casper a brother's kiss. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. Maybe she just has that like
Speaker 1: eighties villain vibe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mary has her son, Uh.
Speaker 6: Has her son Rock, who is Okay, so I have
Speaker 6: a super brief tangent about I believe it's pronounced Sebrian
Speaker 6: or Sabrian Eddie Sybrian.
Speaker 1: He was married to one of the Real Housewives And
Speaker 1: I read her memoir and he left her for Leanne Rhymes,
Speaker 1: left the Real Housewife for Leanne Rhymes, this Real Housewives book,
Speaker 1: and I'm so sorry I cannot remember her name. I
Speaker 1: read it, I think last summer. And I don't really
Speaker 1: watch Real Housewives. I haven't watched them at all. Like
Speaker 1: I know the memes because I'm a person who exists
Speaker 1: in the world huge seething, Like I am honestly shocked
Speaker 1: that lawyers were not involved with this memoir because she
Speaker 1: like she aired him out, but in this movie because
Speaker 1: he was like a pretty boy of the nineties into
Speaker 1: the early two thousands, and in this he's considered one
Speaker 1: of Mary's successful converts. He and Mike RuPaul's character are
Speaker 1: making eyes at each other throughout the entirety of the film,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't. I don't think he gets a ton
Speaker 1: of speaking on He actually speaks in like two scenes.
Speaker 2: He mostly just seems to hang out and pose phallically.
Speaker 1: Yes, so, like we said, like, this movie is high camp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Brandy Glanville drinking.
Speaker 1: And yes, yes, I so like I haven't listened to
Speaker 1: a celebrity memoir book club in a while, but when
Speaker 1: I was like driving more, I would listen to it
Speaker 1: and I would read the celebrity memoirs her Like again,
Speaker 1: I I don't know, Like, I don't know a lot
Speaker 1: about the law. But I thought that people were not
Speaker 1: allowed to say such skating things. But I guess I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it was worked into the divorce papers.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Yeah, do you want to read
Speaker 1: someone eviscerating their eggs and naming names?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: It happened in that book put on.
Speaker 2: Your put on your tailist with playlists, then well, just
Speaker 2: have a night, just have a night to yourself reading
Speaker 2: this book.
Speaker 1: By contrast, I just read a book, a memoir where
Speaker 1: a woman was married to another writer and then as
Speaker 1: their marriage dissolved, like they were separated, and in the
Speaker 1: midst of the divorce she was seeing like a rock star.
Speaker 1: She does not name any names. She keeps things vague.
Speaker 1: There's like at one point she mentioned that she uh
Speaker 1: was not going to talk about I might be mixing
Speaker 1: two memoirs. I think I am, because I read a
Speaker 1: memoir directly after that of a woman who like was
Speaker 1: in advertising and then is now an author and kind
Speaker 1: of her own brand, and her second husband she like
Speaker 1: agreed to not talk about his kids. I might be
Speaker 1: complating the two. Like again, there was like all this
Speaker 1: negotiation around who is allowed to say what, and it
Speaker 1: does not just not seems like that's what happened with
Speaker 1: drinking and tweeting.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's probably part of the divorce. Semans like, fine,
Speaker 2: you get this, but I could like fucking tell all
Speaker 2: my book. It's like fine, whatever. So there's not like
Speaker 2: actually that much plot to this movie. It's mostly just
Speaker 2: we're moving from scene to scene. We see the men
Speaker 2: learning to be masculine, like they're doing war games. And
Speaker 2: one of them is Dante Brosco, the voice of Zuko
Speaker 2: from Evati Last Airbender.
Speaker 1: Which which character Dolf. Oh, Dolf has definitely been in
Speaker 1: other stuff because I recognize Okay, I've never seen Hawk, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But like a voice, like it's such a good voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, damn, he seems so familiar. Also,
Speaker 1: the whole blonde guy that he makes out with also
Speaker 1: seems familiar. But I don't know what I recognize him from.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So throughout, like so we meet our girls are
Speaker 2: it's gonna be old women. One of them is grandplayed
Speaker 2: by Clay Deval, who is just like our punk like independent.
Speaker 2: She's just you know, angry all the time.
Speaker 1: She smokes cigarettes. She is angsty. The goth girl is
Speaker 1: obsessed with her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for obvious reasons. Then we got Snade, who is
Speaker 2: our golf girl. Then we got Jan, who is just
Speaker 2: masculine presenting but is actually a straight female. But Mike
Speaker 2: doesn't believe her and'scon's like, honey, look at yourself.
Speaker 1: Melanie Lynsky's character came on to Jan and Jan just
Speaker 1: seems to compete.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're constantly talking about the root of like what
Speaker 2: made you gay, and it's all these ridiculous things like
Speaker 2: make Megan finally says like, my dad got fired and
Speaker 2: my mom had to go to work, and I guess
Speaker 2: that's what made me like gay, which is of course dumb.
Speaker 1: You know. Your Dad's like that was only nine months
Speaker 1: and Mary's like, yes, it was definitely that your mom
Speaker 1: is domineering and your dad is evasculated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like everybody else's things are equally ridiculous because
Speaker 2: you know they are, because it's a ridiculous concept.
Speaker 1: Clean Theval's dad is an ass and the worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is dropping the F slur constantly, and he's
Speaker 2: basically like if she isn't straight, he's gonna cut her off.
Speaker 2: But Clean Theval and National Leoni start catching feelings one another,
Speaker 2: and like when they're scrubbing the floor is to learn
Speaker 2: what women do. They start, you know, scrubbing a little
Speaker 2: bit closer, and they're also playing with their baby doll.
Speaker 2: That's antopic, correct, Then that squirts weird dark blue liquid
Speaker 2: on people.
Speaker 1: So they fall into I think it's like an anime trope, right,
Speaker 1: the like from friends to lovers.
Speaker 2: Enemies to lovers.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, that's just like dating the lovers, my friend.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this like I wouldn't admit to
Speaker 1: reading this. I just don't read like anime stuff. But
Speaker 1: she has been listening to like a lot of like
Speaker 1: anime type like romance books, and she prefers like the
Speaker 1: from enemies to lovers stuff because it usually involves like
Speaker 1: a very strong willed woman like coming along to this
Speaker 1: guy who's like fine, but there has to be a conflict,
Speaker 1: you know, before they get together. But she's like, it's
Speaker 1: so much better than when it's like rich guy, poor woman.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, trying to read that. That's
Speaker 1: not horrible.
Speaker 2: I mean that's fifty but right there, I guess he's
Speaker 2: trying to read that. Everybody who's into Twilight.
Speaker 1: Frank, first of all, how dare you malign me another Twilighters?
Speaker 1: I think there is crossover, but I don't think it's everyone, Like,
Speaker 1: why would I need to read another Twilight? I have Twilight?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's just like no, I mean, if
Speaker 2: I've said my piece about how like I don't like
Speaker 2: the oh look, how rich I am? Like you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to take you to this place. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter because you're rich, Like, who cares? He took
Speaker 2: me to you bought plane.
Speaker 1: Tickets, completely charmless eating buy plane tickets, Frank, he has
Speaker 1: a jet. Come on, get real, what do you think
Speaker 1: it's eating? In conversial light? Ridiculous? Edward Cullin, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this, and I will stand on business with this.
Speaker 1: Edward Colin is so much more charming because he's like
Speaker 1: a soft boy, and he's a sad boy but not
Speaker 1: like a weird and like, obviously Twilight is problematic in
Speaker 1: so many ways, but so many different ways. And Fifty
Speaker 1: Shades of Gray because Edward's always just like I feel
Speaker 1: like Christian Gray is a mutant of Edward, because Edward's like,
Speaker 1: I'm so sad I've never loved and I you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to defile you, where like Christian Berry
Speaker 1: is like I only know her violence and like being
Speaker 1: with me is going to destroy you. And so no,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't I rebuke you. I
Speaker 1: rebuke your claim that people who love Fifty Shades of
Speaker 1: Gray are Twilight fans.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, it that that is fair I.
Speaker 1: Worked at the movie theater and that third stupid Fifty
Speaker 1: Shades of Gray movie came out. A woman came up
Speaker 1: to me to buy tickets, and I was like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing up her tickets. She takes a picture of
Speaker 1: Oh god, Jamie not Jamie Kennedy. What's the name of
Speaker 1: the actor who plays Christian Gray. I don't know, Jamie Jornan,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Deill shirtless.
Speaker 7: She takes a picture of a shirtless man and puts
Speaker 7: it in my face and goes, who doesn't want that?
Speaker 7: Who doesn't want that? Im a service worker. I did
Speaker 7: not know how to reply to this question because I
Speaker 7: was like, me, I don't want that, but also, what
Speaker 7: the hell is happening?
Speaker 1: Those are the kind of people who like fifty Shade
Speaker 1: people who go to a service worker and be like,
Speaker 1: look at this happen making man, What do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Tell me what you think?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't want to go Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 2: will take back what I said. Despite the fact that
Speaker 2: the then.
Speaker 1: Like hurd him like a pair of like when I
Speaker 1: turn the way he talks about things, because they have
Speaker 1: him doing an American accent. For whatever reason, he decided
Speaker 1: to do it very flat, so he sounds like a
Speaker 1: sadistic robot, and it is like robot is just saying
Speaker 1: a sense of shit to me. But no, we don't
Speaker 1: need to talk anymore about fifty shades.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry for comparing the two. Gray was a
Speaker 2: Toilight fan fiction, but then fifty shays Gray spawned Harden,
Speaker 2: which makes vidchas a Gray way worse. Harden sucks way
Speaker 2: like way more.
Speaker 1: I would one thousand percent rather watch After than fifty Grey.
Speaker 1: W After is so messy and so ridiculous and gave
Speaker 1: us fucking kift fucking trouble, which is amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, So on the on the dude side,
Speaker 2: we have us.
Speaker 1: Him being like, are you gonna go put my intimacy? No, no,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: He has his office that's in the ocean off of Seattle. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because just a quick, just the quick explain that if
Speaker 2: you will get one of the posters hit the way
Speaker 2: his office is set up, he's looking at the space needle,
Speaker 2: but the only way he will get the space needle
Speaker 2: from that certain angle is his if his the building
Speaker 2: that his polishing company is is in the off like
Speaker 2: in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Would be amazing if he just structured his entire life
Speaker 1: around being the real life Lex Luthor. No, because like
Speaker 1: I would be more interested, like Luther.
Speaker 2: Has charisma anyway, So, uh, you know, on on our
Speaker 2: gentleman side, we have Dolph and Clayton and they get
Speaker 2: caught making out dolphins xiled he. We also get two
Speaker 2: more characters who are ex ex gays, and they are
Speaker 2: Larry and Lloyd. Larry is played by Richard by Richard Maull,
Speaker 2: who voiced two Face on Batman the Amid series.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, he's the one with the very deep boys. Yes,
Speaker 1: the taller one with the beard.
Speaker 2: Kind of like David Harbor.
Speaker 1: Do you know who I thought he looked like? I
Speaker 1: thought he looked like that actor who plays Putty and
Speaker 1: the Tick in Time Held and the what's his name?
Speaker 2: What something?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: I can't believe the name.
Speaker 1: His name is something?
Speaker 2: Well, we've always talked about this movie. Okay. So eventually
Speaker 2: the girls all decide to sneak out to everybody decided
Speaker 2: to sneak out to a gay bar, and Meghan and
Speaker 2: Graham finally confronted their feelings and they start making out.
Speaker 1: But this couple picks them up and drops them off.
Speaker 1: Like at first there was like they're not going to
Speaker 1: like party with these kids, are they? But they don't.
Speaker 1: They drop them off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the par Is called something offensive that I
Speaker 2: don't really want us to repeat a whole bunch. They
Speaker 2: get home okay, but the next day Mary finds a
Speaker 2: finds a match book. She confronts all the girls, all
Speaker 2: the girls, but Hillary. Hillary wasn't allowed to go up
Speaker 2: for obvious reasons because she was snitched. We all know
Speaker 2: what Hillary would have done. And then we get like
Speaker 2: Graham and Megan. Eventually one night they sneak out, you know,
Speaker 2: they make love, but then they're.
Speaker 1: Called Like the night before read well, graduation is coming up.
Speaker 1: They all got past except for one of the guys,
Speaker 1: Aiden I think he he does not pass. And at
Speaker 1: this point, like they're trying to, uh like basically soften
Speaker 1: the blow, and he's like, I don't need to hear
Speaker 1: from you guys. You all know what you are and
Speaker 1: you're lying like you know who you want and I
Speaker 1: know that you know that. And now you're like trying
Speaker 1: to console me, but like you're fake, and he storms off.
Speaker 2: And like you kind of just kind of wonder where
Speaker 2: he's going, like because like basically every parent has been
Speaker 2: like you have to do this or you don't come home,
Speaker 2: which is unfortunately how it goes for a lot.
Speaker 1: Andre. I'm sorry, I said Aiden, but it's Andre. And
Speaker 1: Andre is like, not wrong because Joel is like, oh,
Speaker 1: but you're just like so handsome and so warm and
Speaker 1: so clean, weird ad But Andrea's like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear it. And so now when and when Megan's
Speaker 1: parents are brought in, like because basically Mary is going
Speaker 1: to try to pressure them all to snitch at each
Speaker 1: other and admit that they snug out to the bar.
Speaker 1: And when Mary's parents are not Mary's Megan's parents are
Speaker 1: brought in, they say, like, we know you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: involved in any of that, because if you were, like
Speaker 1: that would be it. And so like Megan is obviously
Speaker 1: dismayed by this, but Mary's like, great, so we can
Speaker 1: move forward, and you're going to simulate with Rock. And
Speaker 1: Megan's like, looks out the window. Rock's out there dancing
Speaker 1: with the weed Wager too, I think a roof all
Speaker 1: song and it says, I don't think that's gonna work.
Speaker 1: And Mary's like Rock Knock it Off, and so Megan
Speaker 1: gets kicked out and Mary decides to pass on Rock
Speaker 1: to Graham. The scene where they are simulating the intimacy
Speaker 1: is horrible and I did not like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, Megan has left. She has nowhere to go,
Speaker 2: and she ends up going to Larry and Lloyd's house
Speaker 2: and they are very welcoming and oh uh Dolph is
Speaker 2: there wearing Pride pajamas. Yeah, it is amazing, And they
Speaker 2: start formulaing a plan to go save Graham and Clayton.
Speaker 1: And I think something that's worth pointing out is saying, like,
Speaker 1: obviously there is this like pretty severe and terrible conservative
Speaker 1: movement happening in this country right now, but like Pride
Speaker 1: has been a thing, and there has been such strides
Speaker 1: made in the nineties, Pride was not nearly as visible,
Speaker 1: Like the idea of a corporation contributing to Pride would
Speaker 1: be like what are you talking about? Like it was
Speaker 1: so unheard of. So like the fact that this movie
Speaker 1: was kind of so ahead of its time where it's
Speaker 1: like like functioning in these spaces like yes, being gay
Speaker 1: as normal and like totally acceptable, and people who don't
Speaker 1: understand that are crackpots and weirdos. Like these conversations were
Speaker 1: not being had in any sort of like public discourse really,
Speaker 1: like i mean, gay marriage, what was it pass for
Speaker 1: like another decade? So like this movie was so forward
Speaker 1: thinking in a time where like the country clearly, I
Speaker 1: mean the country has always hated women, but they really
Speaker 1: really hated women in the late nineties early two thousands.
Speaker 1: We're having a regression. We're back to really hating women again,
Speaker 1: obviously with like the laws being past, et cetera. But like,
Speaker 1: I think there is a reason that this movie has
Speaker 1: sustained as like a cult classic and sort of like
Speaker 1: a can't be favorite, because it's like it had this
Speaker 1: foresight that not a lot of people had.
Speaker 2: And yeah, despite like we've mentioned before, yeah, like it
Speaker 2: is goofy, it is silly, but like it still has
Speaker 2: something to say. You know, like you can be you
Speaker 2: can be silly and you can bet Goofy, but like
Speaker 2: but that just frees you. It just gives you, like
Speaker 2: you know, it lists your spirit to then kind of
Speaker 2: tackle the hard problems because like you know, we one
Speaker 2: of the big things that's always been like always been
Speaker 2: in the LGBTQ community is just like the way parents
Speaker 2: abandon their children, and we see that in this movie
Speaker 2: and it's you know, played for laughs and it's not
Speaker 2: that dire, but you can still basically show this to,
Speaker 2: you know, somebody who doesn't understand, like this is what happens.
Speaker 2: Is what really happens is that, you know, the parents
Speaker 2: will say I never knew you and throw you out,
Speaker 2: and it's horrendously tragic because it's just like, that's your child,
Speaker 2: Like if you threw them out, you didn't love them unconditionally,
Speaker 2: which is what a parent needs to do. And in
Speaker 2: the end of the movie, Love Wins. Meghan tries to
Speaker 2: get Graham away, but Graham's scared because she doesn't know
Speaker 2: what the future is gonna be with Megan, like if she.
Speaker 1: Everyone is at graduation in pleather outfits.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: The women are in like pink pleather prom dress is
Speaker 1: and the men are in pleather tuxedos. And I hope
Speaker 1: for their sake, it was a cool day that day,
Speaker 1: because there's just have to be sweat factories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Graham's because Graham's dad is threnaling if you
Speaker 2: go if you you're gay, no trust fund, no college,
Speaker 2: no car, nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, her stepmom says the most fucked up thing where
Speaker 1: she goes, well, that's why your mom laughed. You want
Speaker 1: to lose your dad too, Like, first of all, we
Speaker 1: don't know why Graham's mom laughed, Like these these two
Speaker 1: people are so evil, Graham's mom could have died, Like
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't trust them as like narrators of
Speaker 1: the truth at all. But like what a hideous thing
Speaker 1: to say to someone.
Speaker 2: I'm just throw those out there. I'm going to one
Speaker 2: hundred percent say that. I'm gonna have one hundred percent
Speaker 2: surety Graham's dad cheated.
Speaker 1: On Graham's mom, Yes, with this terrible buffont woman granddads.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to everyone's hair this graduation
Speaker 1: seed so like the Gouf girl has been completely de gothed.
Speaker 1: But Graham's hair is like all piled on her head
Speaker 1: and like a little nest.
Speaker 2: They did they didn't.
Speaker 1: We've just seen her walk around with like a razor
Speaker 1: sharp bob for the entirety of the movie.
Speaker 2: They did too, Uh snade would the eighties did to
Speaker 2: Elie Shy? They deek offed her.
Speaker 1: Yes, she went through the de gothing process.
Speaker 2: Like that's the worst, Like like she looks so cute,
Speaker 2: like before her makeover and breakfast glob anyway.
Speaker 1: So like she also like, wasn't that guck before that?
Speaker 1: Frank not to you know, not to nitpick here.
Speaker 2: But admittedly your your caresh she was more art student. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so uh. At a certain point in this movie, Graham
Speaker 2: and Megan talked about like Megan's like, I love cheerleading.
Speaker 2: It's I love it so much. And Graham's like, I
Speaker 2: wish I loved anything as much as you love cheerleading,
Speaker 2: and that's like, gs, like, I'd love to see you
Speaker 2: do it. She's like maybe one day, and Megan does
Speaker 2: a cheer basically telling Graham she loves her, and then
Speaker 2: the two runoff like there's two contestants from the Bachelor
Speaker 2: of Vietnam. So at this point, Susie's Internet went out
Speaker 2: and we were unable to get her back on before
Speaker 2: she had to go to a different event. So I'm
Speaker 2: just going to close the episode on my own, Frank
Speaker 2: Cota solo style. So I think you can be said
Speaker 2: we both highly recommend this movie. It is super fun
Speaker 2: and it does tackle some issues that if you have
Speaker 2: people who are kind of confused about the LGBTQ situation.
Speaker 2: You can use this to lead them into like a
Speaker 2: larger discussion. And on that note, you know, both of us,
Speaker 2: we want to just say, you know, whoever you choose
Speaker 2: to love, whoever you choose to be, you know, we
Speaker 2: support you. You know, happy pride, and we're happy that
Speaker 2: you're here with us, and we hope you'll continue to
Speaker 2: be with us. Next week as we watch camp Rock,
Speaker 2: that's gonna be super fun. We have our links are
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Speaker 2: a bunch of fun stuff going on. I do another
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Speaker 2: my buddy Donnie we're covering de Grossi and I also
Speaker 2: have my own website, franklcota dot com where you can
Speaker 2: read my writings. This week I talked I wrote a
Speaker 2: poem about Father's Day, and I have another poem, you know,
Speaker 2: coming down the line, Coming down the Pipe for Friday. Oh,
Speaker 2: and I also talked about the new cycle Killer video
Speaker 2: starring a serious of Rowanan. It's really good. I think
Speaker 2: you should check that out as well. Not the article
Speaker 2: so much as the well check out the article, but
Speaker 2: also check out the video. She does an awesome job
Speaker 2: and I love that video so much so until next week,
Speaker 2: I'm Frank Coota and I speak you know. Farewell from
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