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Speaker 1: And folks will live the Sasquatch Experience Radio show is

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your folks, Sean with your hosts Sean Parker and James Baker.

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Melissa Hovey off tonight, and we've got some great guests tonight.

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Wind up for bj Hollows, who's a writer from Alabama

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who joined us last weekend. This James and I's guest

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at the two thousand and eighties Coast Bickfoot Conference. And

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Craig Willheater from Texas. He's the chairman of the Texas

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Bigfoot Research Conservancy. He'll be having his own conference later

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on in the month. So, folks, there's a little bit

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of news items here. Fifty years ago today. Fifty years

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ago today, the term bigfoot was coined the newspaper. That

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newspaper reported the Jerry Crewe foot track finds in The

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Humble Times October fifth, nineteen fifty eight. Andrew Genzoli, while

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we pronounce his name, and I don't care at the moment,

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but only knows it's an important day. But the tracks

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do not matter. Those made by Ray Wallace. Ray Wallace,

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of course, the big hoaster, who I like to take

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credit for those footprints, and they do not match up

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so kind of an important piece of Bigfoot history. James,

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you let us my good friend.

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Speaker 2: You are where I am. I've felt it was an

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interesting experience driving there, driving back from the cool things

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that he did. I'll chance to get to a conference

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to at least just to get to some of the

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PPS functions. Take the time.

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Speaker 1: It was a hell of a good time had by all.

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There over five hundred and sixty people in attendance on

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the final talies. According to Eric Haltman, of course, the

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conference chairman, it was a good time. I had a blast,

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spent a lot of time with Craig Wildheater and Stan

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Goodon and Dj Hollis. Got some birthdays to point out

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quick today, James. Our good friend John cart Wright's birthday

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was yesterday. He turned one hundred and eighty. Wow, I

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guess we had a few weeks ago. Linda Quayle Succi,

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her birthday is coming up in the next few days,

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So just like to wish them a very happy birthday

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and thank you for being listeners of the show and

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supporters of the last last year, going on two years

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at the end of the month, James, two years we've

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been on the air. It's kind of amazing, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and eighty years old.

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Speaker 1: He's well probsolved one hundred and eighty years old with preservatives.

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Craig Wolfe was in the chat room. Got a nice

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little turn out here. Show is starting tonight at ten

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pm Eastern. A little light but well worth it. So, James,

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aren't you start with the bake shopper. When we went

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along to our guests, I know Dog Keating is going

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to be calling in briefly for an announcement regarding an

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event he has coming up this week as a James,

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go ahead, take it away.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, hey, you know we had this nice trap.

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The one thing I learned during the Salt trap was

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if you're going to use the GPS, make sure you

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have a map back go. GPS is a phenomenal they'll

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tell you where you are, they'll tell you where you're going.

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But there are occasions, you know, the GPS show a

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criple line that doesn't seem to go anywhere, and then

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you teup to six level purple lines where a twenty

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minute ride becomes two hours. Yet we found that was

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and then we also found this on the ray to

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and from the conference was even if you do your

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Google maps print out the actual version of the map

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that shows you your side streets and stuff like that,

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because when you get lost and you don't know quite

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where you are, turning out on end does not really

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do crap for you. You know, you know, it turned

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a nice trip into you know, an extra forty five

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minutes because we weren't quite sure where we were. And

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I'll tell you it wasn't is. There was a point

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where I was gonna push forker out a car. Yeah,

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supplyed when.

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Speaker 1: You go somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Oh, although it was a great trip, And if you

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ever have a chance to go any of these things,

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please do. But I mean, I think my my thing

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of the day is if you do planning to go

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any wall one, make sure you know where you're going,

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someone knows where you're going, and then you bring the

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map or you know, and that will help you out.

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Speaker 1: But bring a visual map, because every one of those

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map quests has to get us to and from the conference.

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we ended up adding a lot of time onto our trip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, uh, yeah, I know that we turn

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the cross tacks that were being punt out the map

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just to turn loft here. I'm like, well we missed

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Speaker 1: Yeah that it was a good time anyhow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the thing is the GPS, this phenomenal idea.

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we learned that night were sometimes the GPS doesn't do

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Speaker 1: Speaking of GPS, I have Craig will Heater and b J.

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Hollis in along with us tonight. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 3: Say good, Hey, I'm doing fine.

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Speaker 1: Kara about the GPS problems that we were going on

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a smooth ride and then all of a sudden everything

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went purple. Well, you know, the GPS, it doesn't it uh,

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it doesn't necessarily tell you the way.

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Speaker 4: That you want to go. It tells you the way

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that it wants to go. And I think that what

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our problem was was that why it was showing us,

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uh you know, rotting us back. It was actually showing

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us what what it wanted to do, but it wasn't

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what we wanted to do. And so when we see

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all that purple, it just kind of threw us off. Uh.

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Speaker 2: My my favorite line is that whole time was when

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uh James said, no wonder we can't find big, but

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we can't even find a conference, which was.

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Speaker 4: Just hilarious to me.

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Speaker 1: We did fantastic. There are a lot of lights that weekend, BJ,

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but I'm sure you'd like to forget about most of them.

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Speaker 3: Do there?

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Speaker 2: I got them all down on paper. Let me tell

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you that I'm there.

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Speaker 3: But it was. It was quite a bit that was

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supposed to be off the record.

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Speaker 2: A lot of off the record we created.

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Speaker 3: I think pretty much was off the record, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Craig, I think the one you missed it was

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we had gotten up earlier in the morning to get

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ready for the conference, and we were down at breakfast

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and I said, damn it. I said, we here's a family.

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We sleep as a family. And I think I said

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we we shower as a family.

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Speaker 2: Make your own waffles, as that the best thing for

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the hotel, make your own waffle, like you know what,

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We're so goddamn lady, We're just gonna give you some

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syrup and some butter and oat.

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Speaker 1: Now, the worst part was the Marlborough lady. Oh, my god,

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thank you, super Man. Where's the milk? Superman? Thank you?

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Thank you awful And I think she actually the funniest

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part about this is she I think she had flipped

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in the shower at her hotel room and she fell

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and actually broke or fractured her arm on the soap

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dish or something.

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Speaker 2: All over.

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Speaker 1: She was obviously ellebriated, but it was funny. Nonetheless, h

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thank you Superman.

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Speaker 2: You know, I read that a lot, usually not that

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of a drone of the tongue. You know, before we

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digressed into a tirade.

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Speaker 1: Of drunken debauchery, we do have a conference to discuss,

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and everybody, we all started fighting at the meat and

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greet dinner, and that was a good time. We had

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dinner with Craig and Stan Gordon and Kelly Beverly. But

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I moved ahead. I moved ahead, and I was just

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gonna let Cred all everybody got her side trip that

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Friday before really kicking off the conference.

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Speaker 2: Wend fall came in the morning when Lea seven a

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full and spoiled with a special package that's worked out

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really well. My little package or that was not any

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illegal pharmaceuticals. It was a nice statue that we were

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taking to a lady who had her stolen from her

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from her store, and Craig was nice enough to uh

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get her a replacement statue. And we begin our journey

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from Williamsport, Pennsylvania, and Craig from Texas to come here

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to a little wicked ink town of around a Polo,

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Pennsylvania and bring a little happiness to make to miss

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Nikki Hosack's life.

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Speaker 3: That's right, little did she with sandwiches and beer?

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Speaker 2: That's right, sand which is did she?

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Speaker 1: Little? Did she know? The happiness us.

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Speaker 5: Little town.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, Nikky six back is Ward's the town

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they're so much is phenomenal. Those that Mike's headed lemonade

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year and you can sint to have beverage drives go

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ready for you, and I'll tell you that those are

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the better turkey sandwiches I have had.

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 2: You feel d though we did break her sign because

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Speaker 1: They're gonna burn in hell, James, w at least.

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Speaker 2: I'll get to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: They're lighting the fire together. Jack asked, all right, before

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we're go any further, we've got don keating on the line.

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Don Keating has something you don't tell everybody about an

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Speaker 4: Bring the honor of Shawn. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: I just want to make a note of the fact

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that with coming Saturday at Salt Fork State Park Lodge,

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we're going to have a special guest speak around. That

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will be mister Eric Allman, who just hosted the East

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Coast Bigfoot Conference. Eric's going to be attendance and he's

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going to be sharing many, many different slides on our

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punt presentation. He's going to talk about how the conference land.

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Ohio and again it will be just coming Saturday at

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eight pm Saltfork State Park Lodge, and hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Many of you will be able to make it cool.

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I hope so, Don, and thank you for calling with

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that and you folks, it's really important that you get

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to these meet and greets. Wasn't a great opportunity to

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network with fellow researchers and you know, find out what

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everybody's doing. And Don, thank you for putting on these

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Speaker 2: Hey, don are you still online? Is there a website

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or something they can go to to get the information,

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a phone number or somebody to contact and get them mister?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they can go to www, dot A, I C

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dot net okay, and it's always under a recent under

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recent news or upcoming events. It's always in one of

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those sections. So it's a it's a good idea and

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it after that at Softwork State Park next weekend.

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Speaker 2: And if you have pictures of all travel travelers to

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make you six bat together, Crypto Mum, Crypto mumber dot com,

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or you can check my MySpace gyms be wild. We

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have a lot of good pictures from the conference and

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also from that trap to turn soft God's where it belongs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely check out a picture, folks, And I posted

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them to go on the blogs that I've got a

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lot of pictures on MySpace dot com slash Sean Falker.

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James has this on MySpace dot com slash James by

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Wild and of course they're always available on cryptomundo dot

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com and look for the uh I believe it's the

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post called Nicky's Quick six. Thanks cry Cryptomundo, Thanks James

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for you started a bug.

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Speaker 2: Thing there who lived an the fun time and every

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you can also check the local paper. And then they

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had a little one on that the hole stituation, and

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better the whole story behind it. I mean both.

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Speaker 4: Well, what happened was is with Nicky Ship in the

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p store, I think in January, and her husband had

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had contacted us, and so we'd emailed back and forth,

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and I told him that Crypto Mendo would replace the

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statue for him if it never showed back up, and

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and so it never did show back up. And at

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at the point if I was getting ready to come

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up to uh, Pennsylvania for the conference. Since their store

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was only I think about thirty five miles or so

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from where we were staying in New Stanton, I UH

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contacted Designed Tuscano and asked them if they would donate one.

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mee because I didn't want to have to carry that

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thing on the on the airplane. And so I had

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him had him shitt it to Sean since h he

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was staying at a hotel not far from mine, and

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so I called him into action to the special mission,

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and UH it was delivered to him and and he

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brought it up with him and then we hooked up

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on Friday and drove up before the dinner and UH

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and the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: And history it was folks, I know. UH, the scenery

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was wonderful. So it was a good time. I had

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a blast hanging out with Craig and uh BJ, BJ

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tell us some of your impressions you got from the

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first day, and so just keep in mind that BJ

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had no idea what he was getting into. Uh. We

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had met just briefly over a phone review and I

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invited him to be my guest up here at the conference,

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and I think we.

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Speaker 2: Had a good time.

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Speaker 1: DJ. What do you think it was?

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Speaker 2: It was fast. I mean I got to say again,

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thank you guys so.

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Speaker 3: Much for.

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Speaker 2: Wep into no regrets whatsoever. You guys have took me

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on one hundred percent and through me into every situation

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you could And I think I saw just about everything

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I possibly could ask for, so any inditional impressions, It

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was just it was great and it was so wonderful

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to see it's just trying to turn out and so

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many serious people who were taking the taking the big

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Foot community by storm and making up a lot of

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or finding a lot of good flats and information for

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layman like me is kind of new to the community.

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It was really great to see some of the old

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games you've been on it for years and kind of

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picking their brains. You know, do you think the conference

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achieve its goal and keeping it simple for you know,

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as you said, even the way person who didn't have

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a clue what Bigfoot was, or you know, even to

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the extent of Bigfoot being known. You know, just speaking

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for myself, I would say certainly, you know, I walked

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in just knowing, you know, having watched a couple of

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documentaries year and then I always having an interest. But

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when I sat down fourth and have my little program,

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and that was enough to guide me through most of

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the most of the lectures. Took a lot of notes

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and the pictures are really helpful, and everyone ever had

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their own little take on things, you know, so whether

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there was a tree twist or most scientific roles of

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tumbling caster that sort of thing, and they there was

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certainly something forever. It was quite the smortgage board of

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bigfoot if he asked me, so I got it online,

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that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: The conference on it R James.

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Speaker 2: We thank you for coming along this because five pleass

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you know, it's always nice to have a fresh perspective

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all what's going on. And I'll tell you that one

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thing I did deals about the conference was everybody was kind.

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Everybody was professional about it. You know, there wasn't any

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you know, people laughing or people you know, hey, it's

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this is just you know, the people that came to

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the conferences actually wanted to learn something. And I think

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even if they didn't believe that, you know, big footer

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is what we believe it is. They took something. They're

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late from the conference. It's the only important thing, right.

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I think he has the right of me. When I

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got back to you here, the first thing everyone wanted

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to know in Alabama, well, did you see bee fruit

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is real? And you know, I just told him that

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it was just it was so it was so welcome

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to see a community if people are so committed, not

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that may bee proving or part too proving or disproving.

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You know that you guys are open to everything, just

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kind of getting to the bottom of it. So you know,

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how to keep explaining they're not just people who are

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die hard no matter what. He's right there in front

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of me. You know, there's there's people who are are

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taking this really seriously. And so I think the fresh

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perspective and I think people even outside the community said

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and understand kind of what you guys do, which is

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kind of my goal thing writing about it.

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next probably thirty minutes to actually go through the conference program,

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uh and get everyone, you know, if anyone has an opinion,

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get you know, an depending on the speakers. The first

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peak we had, of course was Eric Alton and Eric

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getting over away of our bigfoot studies in Pennsylvania and

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some recent investigations conducted by the PBS. And I thought

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it was a very good presentation.

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Speaker 2: James, Yeah, I you know what, Eric did a phenomenal

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job of the conference. If anybody should stand up, you

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know that did the most work on that, that would

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be Eric.

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Speaker 3: Eric.

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Speaker 2: Eric probably didn't sleep that whole weekend, yet he was

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one hundred percent you know, with it and understand what

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was going on. And he was he was, you know,

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telling stories and hey, keeping an eye on this and

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keeping an eye on that. Because you could tell that

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he put a lot of work into it and it

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was something that he did to do, not because it

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was something that you know, it was a label a

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love almost you know, but that yeah, his first when

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he explained some exciting and a lot of the PBS

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was formed and stuff like that. I think it really

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it really gave me an idea of why we have

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conferences be suck. Yeah, I agree completely. And what I

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really liked about Almonds presentation, you took us all the

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way back to you know, the Native American tribes of Pennsylvania,

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Sufia and Lina. Again, I took us Honora from eighteen

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thirty eight, the first first documented starting up till you

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know the two hundred and fifty setings that the TVs

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has had in the last ten years. So I took

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quite a stain and really simplified it and broke it down.

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Has the really interesting pictures of a year of finding

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a live of a tree, which I really found interesting

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and give me to be a good perspective.

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Speaker 1: Of what what kind of things that might be going

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on in Pennsylvania. So really enjoyable. One of my favorites

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probably anything you like.

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Speaker 3: To a correct well, you know, I'm all about the

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after party conferences are you know, great places to the

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network and meet people.

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Speaker 6: But you know, on the side, like the freaking town

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of Peanut butter Pie. You did have a pound to

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pie that was huge, that was.

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Speaker 1: At the plate, waved like a tom Jamers dropped it

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when she gave it to me.

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Speaker 2: Yet you ate at all?

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Speaker 8: No, I did.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that was gonna but I made room

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before We're going from the Drumman and we have a

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caller from the eight one seven area for every one

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seven drum they are a Sasquart experience. Sean Ford James Baker,

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B J. Hollows and Craig wools Heater car. Wow, that

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had been funny if we could have understood it. Ass

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he's square, yellon And I tell you, I wonder who

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that is?

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Speaker 3: Eight one seven is my area? Could?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Hopefully they had a bad connection or

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bad case.

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Speaker 3: And Jazz I was the post the number in the

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chat room, so we can all we can all call

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him back later. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's a funny story. Last Sharing Anniversary, Shadow was a

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guy from Michigan kept calling in and I told him

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if he didn't stop, I was going to read his

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number over the air, and he didn't believe me. And

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I read his number of the air, and I haven't

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heard anything from him since.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't he like a fourteen year old kid

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or something. His mom smacked him.

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Speaker 1: Up on the head. Uh, yeah, something else, something else?

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And then no, that was not one of the chatters

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in the room, asks if that was apple crab Dick. No,

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that's not the same to apple crab Dick. But uh,

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I have a feeling he'll be calling in sometime in

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the near future. I got an email from him.

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Speaker 3: Says that threatened to run him over with a newspaper truck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, James, that lady survived, run it cow.

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Speaker 1: Survived. That's another story.

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Speaker 2: That's the story he could tell other people. I'll tell

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you that I've had an interesting life to be of

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in different places.

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Speaker 1: Some went along.

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Speaker 2: Yellow mean dream.

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Speaker 1: So our next. The next presenter at the conference was

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one of my favorite was a Bob Chance from Maryland.

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Bob was a dynamic speaker. I really felt he captivated

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the audience and and you know, spoke about uh, you know,

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a little on his book Green by Chance, and he

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was James.

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Speaker 2: Bob didn't even need a microphone. He had the whole

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room just enticed on what he said. He moved around

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the room. You know a lot of things he made sense.

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He said, you saw if you expect that you're gonna

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see big flat by walking down the woods in three hours,

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you're confused, go home, have the cookie, get all with

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your life. He said. Youn't expect to see wilderness creatures.

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Expect to be there a couple of days, he says,

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because at first, anything that you're gonna see needs to

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be acclimated that you exist and that you're not a threat.

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He says, you know, you don't. You don't You don't

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see You're not going to be out there for a

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couple of hours and see everything unless it's a chance encounter.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: He said, how to talk to how you could tell

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the difference between somebody who's just you know, kind of

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throwing smoke, or somebody might actually have seen something. And honestly,

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the man, the man even in the beginning, he said, Love,

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you know, I've had some trouble last month, the last

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couple of months, he says, but at the end of

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the day, I've done the best I can do, you know,

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help just cause.

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Speaker 1: Be doing anything you like that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, I really like the real look listening

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about I think you're right, Jens, he really done. How

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to around about the microphone is kind of you could tell.

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You could tell he was a former science teacher. You know,

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he had no problem getting up there and chatting the

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crowd of something. I really liked that.

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one point, and he just kept saying, you young people

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need to get exposed to dirt and water and you know,

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kind of getting them back out there into actually hunting

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in the woods, you know, seeing what might be out there,

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and he really stresses scientific aspect of it too. He

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kept saying, you know, do not tell them to conclusions.

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People aren't ask you why aren't there any bodies. He

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gave three theories of perhaps why there aren't anybodies. He

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really kept it scientific throughout and kind of stress that

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that's the way to to give more credibility in the

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field is to keep it on those terms. And he

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called it the big foot, the ultimate endangered species of

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something I hadn't heard before, but I thought it was

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definitely worth taking note of.

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Speaker 1: That was interesting to me. I know, you were selling

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a few copies of his book Green by Chance, and

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if you can get that on Amazon dot com or

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any other fine book dealing establishment. Next guest speaker we

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was interesting. I believe this was her first presentation, and

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she gave when don keating so brazen Lee asked her

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about skunk apes and Florida, because if you know Diane,

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she'll tell you, you know, very matter of fact that

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there was no skunky and she had a very interesting presentation.

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James I know you were pretty interested into her presentation.

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Speaker 2: Well, she she did a lot of things. She broke

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00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,119
down a lot of the things. Was she chow you

480
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,640
a track and a lot of it was hard to

481
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,599
do a track. And you know she she mentioned that

482
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,039
if it has bread plows, it's not a fat squatch.

483
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,279
If it's got claws, it's probably a bear. But she

484
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,279
showed you different tracks and said, look, this is what

485
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,599
the track would look like for this animal to swip

486
00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:35,359
the track. Why is the track elongated yet it's still

487
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,279
a bear and alligator. It's because in the sin that

488
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,519
she was using it, when you pressed your foot across

489
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:43,880
it actually made it look like a longer track, but

490
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,920
there actually was one track. The fact wasn't that she

491
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:51,599
was actually one of the most interesting speakers. But I

492
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,079
you know, before I had chilled a fall along because

493
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,079
I was next to Bob Chance and Snakes and they

494
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,519
kept trying to get it out. I mean, I had

495
00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:04,279
talked to her on the meat free afterwards, and I

496
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:08,920
had talked to her when we went to the tour,

497
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,880
and she actually stated, you know, some of the theories

498
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,640
I had had about some people had seen misplace dates

499
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:18,559
or some people mistake as a bear. She actually shared

500
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:24,039
many sightings of how that is completely possible, So I

501
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:26,319
mean she was a really informative woman. I got to

502
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,839
date both can make it up from Florida and they

503
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,480
worked as a team. Who one came from the audience,

504
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:32,200
you know.

505
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a very good medization. I totally enjoyed it.

506
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,240
And I also enjoyed being out into the woods with

507
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:46,079
Donna Corse, who has a unique ability to traverse any

508
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,440
terrain in her bare feet, which was kind of interesting,

509
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:53,599
but it was. It was a good tour.

510
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.

511
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: If anyone interested in any video on the tour, James

512
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,200
and I posted a couple on our conference brond if

513
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480
He's Coast Bigfoot at blogspot dot com. It was a

514
00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:06,559
little bitty we put together there and preparation and kind

515
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:09,759
of like a journal of our experience at the conference,

516
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:11,799
and it was the little blog site. You can go

517
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:14,920
on there and check out the three videos that we posted.

518
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: All saw the video on my midspace and I'll tell

519
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:21,039
it that a couple more out as time goes on.

520
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,599
My big issue right now is I've got a new

521
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,880
program that I'm working with and I'm still trying to

522
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,079
get the ins and out of it. That's I'm addicted

523
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,599
to store.

524
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,079
Speaker 3: He is.

525
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: He created a bigfoot on spore, folks, to tell you

526
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,519
how much free time James Baker has, ladies. His social

527
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:40,640
calendar is open. We have a couple of callers here,

528
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,279
one from the six sixth two area. Could I know?

529
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,279
This is Henry May Henry on the air.

530
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,599
Speaker 8: Hey, Hey, they Hey James Sean. I it was my

531
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,519
first opportunity to talk to you all since the conference,

532
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:57,839
and I'm in enjoying seeing all the different photos on

533
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:04,160
the different MySpace pages and the and the videos and

534
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,839
things like that of the tour. Very cool stuff.

535
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: I know.

536
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 8: Craig's conference is coming up in a couple of weeks.

537
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,400
I would make it if I could, Craig, but my

538
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,240
youngest niece has a birthday the same day, so and

539
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,799
she wants me to attend her birthday party, so my

540
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,480
family priorities come first.

541
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:27,839
Speaker 3: Well, then really, we'll just go ahead and postpone the conference,

542
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:29,880
so you make it, then we'll put it back.

543
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 8: To see No, don't do that on my account.

544
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: We'll howdly. Looking at the way merchandise sold at the

545
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,279
East Coast conference, you know, we could have really used

546
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:41,359
your sales support there.

547
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I wish I could have made it there. You know,

548
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,599
maybe I'll make it in No. Ten because I know

549
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:50,039
Eric's taking a year off.

550
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know you've got to get out there

551
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,920
and do your financial support as the Big Foo shows

552
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,599
you love and folks, if you're interested, we are selling

553
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554
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555
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556
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you two can have a CD of the Best of

557
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558
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,920
maya infomercial there for the moment.

559
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: There's a lot of probably gonna put a video presentation

560
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,279
together too. Actually have a friend of ours that works

561
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:25,240
the same post video.

562
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: His name is Dan.

563
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: He's doing he's doing a documentary for a prost he's taking.

564
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,240
We may introvert some of his video into ours and

565
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:38,680
put out something kind of like our MySpace video is

566
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:44,759
doing a little bit more of a production quality. Let's say, hey, Craig,

567
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,319
make sure you spend us plenty of pictures from yours

568
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:49,440
because we'd like to see how that we were there.

569
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,799
Speaker 4: Preatures in the conference. Hopefully there'll be people taking preatures.

570
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,119
Usually I'm so busious, you know, as though it can

571
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,240
tell you it's hard to do, uh have a camera,

572
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:04,200
would even be taking pictures, but uh, I'm sure someone will.

573
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 8: I wanna ask Craig about, uh how Operation Forest Vigil

574
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:08,920
is going.

575
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,119
Speaker 4: Well, we in one of the areas uh down in

576
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,960
the Big Ticket. We don't know how it's going. We

577
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:20,599
haven't been down there since uh Hurricane Ike blew through,

578
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:24,119
so hm, I know there's a lot of closures down

579
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,480
there as well, some of the units of the Big Ticket.

580
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,720
So uh, I think there's talk of this coming week

581
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,400
end some of the team down there to do some

582
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,680
recon check out the cameras, uh see if everything's still there,

583
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,319
and uh service to cameras.

584
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,319
Speaker 3: That are.

585
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,839
Speaker 8: Now y'all got how many areas covers Miss Canons.

586
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: I I think we've got cameras and I think about

587
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,200
four different.

588
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: Areas in while uh Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas and Louisiana.

589
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: While a lot of one lot a whole. You know,

590
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,000
it's a lot of cameras when you gotta get out

591
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:06,640
and maintain them. But uh as far as uh a

592
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,000
lot of cameras versus square footage of a forested area

593
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,519
in that poor state area. There's uh sixty five million

594
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:17,920
acres uh pision lands in those four states. Uh you figure,

595
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:23,599
uh we've got about uh point uh six cameras perm

596
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:25,160
per million acres.

597
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: Sort of.

598
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: Uh, I thot real good right now?

599
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought the uh I hadn't I had a

600
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,359
chance to listen to the most recent bethcast. I listened

601
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:39,400
to number five when they talk when they first mentioned

602
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,880
about the uh, the the the the camera.

603
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 8: Project some very fascinating sense, you.

604
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: Know, and and I I don't end the very I

605
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,200
mean not very spring for ever in the rog all

606
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,599
that way, and in the heat, my gosh, but.

607
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,359
Speaker 4: The as eat no less, it's tough conditions, for sure.

608
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, it most certainly is them. But yeah, somebody was

609
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,039
asking in the chat room. I believe it was Kite Squatch.

610
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:11,680
And there's been rumors about the availability of the DVD

611
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,720
for the East Coast conference.

612
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,839
Speaker 1: There's no rumor, there's no speculation, there's no anything, because

613
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:20,680
at this point there is no DVD of the two

614
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,880
thousand and eight hees suposed to put conference the moment

615
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,279
I do know that we have a lot of law

616
00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:29,119
footage of all the speakers, and you know, what we're

617
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,599
going to do with that is solely up to the

618
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:34,079
director of the TNSVANA big Foot Society, Eric Coleman, Right.

619
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:37,039
I mean, it's it's a lot of work to be

620
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:41,200
done on you know, all the all the footage has

621
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,279
been taken to go through and edit it and you know,

622
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,759
put it together in some sort of presentable fashion. So

623
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:48,359
I'm sure if it's going to be coming out and

624
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,839
will be coming out any time soon.

625
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 8: H One more thing, Sean, you're gonna be celebrating two

626
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,039
years next week.

627
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:59,319
Speaker 1: Next week or the week after. I haven't decided yet

628
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,119
on what we're going to do. A lot of people

629
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:04,319
are wondering what's going on with the shows beyond the

630
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:07,720
Edge Radio and the Sasquatch experience, and there's been a

631
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,880
lot of activity going on for myself with work and

632
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,119
conferences and different projects we're working on. So unfortunately the

633
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,799
shows have suffered because of that. But it's the content

634
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,960
that's going to be provided on these shows that are

635
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160
really where you folks are going to benefit from So

636
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:26,240
that I apologize are having.

637
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:29,839
Speaker 3: Shown me real is it the shows that have suffered

638
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,920
or is it actually the listeners that have suffered a

639
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,519
little bit of.

640
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: I think anytime the listeners listen, they suffer, but they

641
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,359
keep coming back every week.

642
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,359
Speaker 8: All right, That's basically all I wanted to ask. Thanks

643
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,759
for answering my questions, and Craig, good luck with the

644
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:57,039
conference in two weeks. Yeah, you're welcome, and I'll be

645
00:33:57,119 --> 00:33:59,759
watching for the coverage on the internet and things like that,

646
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,039
and I'm sure you'll probably get as much a newspaper

647
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:06,279
coverage as Eric did and also as Don did when

648
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:06,920
he had his.

649
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: We can only hope.

650
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, guys, I'm gonna take off. Thanks, thanks again,

651
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,400
and you'll take care.

652
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling Henry, Henry mury Foyette folks, former co

653
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,960
host All Around Big Flip Guy, wind back. Thank you

654
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:30,559
for calling you, Henry mt folks. Lot of applause, All right, everybody,

655
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:34,519
We right? What's that?

656
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: That was clopping?

657
00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: Right?

658
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:37,159
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was clapping?

659
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,039
Speaker 2: That was no other good gud.

660
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: Jeames girl Seed. The next speaker that was after Dian

661
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,039
was I think bordering Dennis and he was talking about

662
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:55,079
the I got said digital camera where now I could

663
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:57,159
be misunderstood on this James because we were having a

664
00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:59,360
lot of activity at the table and some other events

665
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,119
going on in the I didn't really get a chance

666
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:05,159
to fully pay attention. But the real innovations not exactly

667
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,880
in the camera itself, but in the casing or what's

668
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,519
the deal with that? Now I understand it, and maybe

669
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:16,840
I'm wrong, But how the wrong with it? Most cameras

670
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,679
they make a sound or the murtors actually make a

671
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,880
small sound where to you doesn't sound that much, but

672
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,280
to animals as they pick it up because the hearing

673
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,079
is a lot better in the tunes of different songs,

674
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,159
kind of like dogs canari aks, so that we can't.

675
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,519
So what I guess what he did was is he

676
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:39,159
made the case thing so it eliminated that vibration and

677
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:43,880
it eliminated that sound so that the new camera that

678
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,159
she that he has now won't won't admit any sound.

679
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:50,280
And that he did was he took a regular camcorder

680
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,280
that he could buy from Mike let's say best Buy,

681
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,119
because you know, Circuit City is on a fifty seven

682
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,400
cents to show we don't see them being around a

683
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,000
long time. But but you basically put that next to

684
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:06,559
a microphone and you can actually hear the noise coming

685
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:09,599
off of it with his camera. The way the casing

686
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,119
has made it felt without that noise, you didn't have

687
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:16,039
to hear. You couldn't hear anything. And that's what they're

688
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,840
trying to say, is the big reason why Big Philip

689
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,360
sous Qualee animals in general don't get pictured by the

690
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,840
camera is the simple fact is that they can hear

691
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,639
the noise from a distance, so they avoid the area.

692
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:34,599
His camera doesn't make any noise, so they're folding and

693
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:41,039
avoid the area. Very interesting. Do you say anything about that?

694
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: Oh no, that was a really great actually snip away

695
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,199
from lunch at that time where I talked to Bill

696
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,760
quite a bit prior to conference and during the conference

697
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,559
about the camera, and he showed me kind of the

698
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:52,920
inner workings of it in the box that you bury underground,

699
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,280
the signal a sense to the camera, and how the

700
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,679
camera can actually run on a battery for six months.

701
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:00,480
I think he said, just it sleeps when movement that

702
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:02,760
he waked up, and it takes a picture, and I

703
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,400
really can check it out in the six months you

704
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,400
can go on one particular guy, which sounds like a

705
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,679
heck of an improvement, you know, there's some good possibilities

706
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:11,280
at this camera.

707
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean being a good guy. He's he's been

708
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:19,960
working on technology for years. I'ven't known him since I

709
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:24,159
met him at Don's conference, probably in either two thousand

710
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,719
or two thousand and one, and we've we've worked with

711
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,199
him before on some other projects and looking forward to

712
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,280
getting one of the uh I got the systems out

713
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,800
in the field to do some field tisting down here

714
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,719
in Texas.

715
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good guy.

716
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: I know.

717
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed the funeral and check out the spend

718
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,800
with him there at the conference and once the one thing,

719
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,800
the unfortunate thing about the conference is that everybody's so busy.

720
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

721
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, every time you turn around, someone's snapping a

722
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,840
photograph for uh. Everybody has questions and you're pooled one way.

723
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,320
And it was a really exciting time for us. I know,

724
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,840
we spent a lot of time at our terrible which

725
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,400
we didn't sell anything, but it was good because we

726
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,480
got to sit next to Stan Gordon, who's a wealth

727
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:14,960
of information on bigfoot servings in Pennsylvania and some unusual

728
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,480
happenings in Pennsylvania, which is very James.

729
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: We also got to meet Bob Crain, which you know

730
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:28,119
someone I spoke to a lot upon you The man

731
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,360
is really interesting, especially in person, because you know story

732
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:32,880
he tell.

733
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: Bob's Bob clin is a great guy, a former police

734
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,400
chief of a Maine police department. I don't remember which

735
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,639
town exactly, but he has some interesting plans coming up

736
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:46,199
for the Bigfoot quests. I hope you all stick around

737
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,480
for and I let him announce those. But really nice,

738
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,679
very nice to meet him and Mike Killing of that show.

739
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,239
You spent a lot of time talking to these people

740
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,480
and being part of their show and building this uh

741
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:02,159
this you know, Bigfoot network, and it's just really nice

742
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,639
to finally put a face to a name, and it

743
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:06,920
was an enjoyable time.

744
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 4: For all of us, you know.

745
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: The second part of the hour that was given to

746
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,840
Builder and Guinness was given up for Mike Frizell, who

747
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,760
directs the Enigma Project. Mike isn't you know, one of

748
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,679
the nicest guys I think I've ever met, A very

749
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,199
very smart guy. He seems like he should be teaching

750
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:30,679
college courses. But yeah, he was discussing Theedar, which is

751
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,920
a new venture joint venture between the Virginia Bigfoot Research

752
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,440
organization and the ENIGMA Project, and CEDAR stands for the

753
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,639
Center for the Exploration and Documentation of Phenomenaly Reports and

754
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:44,840
they're going to be investigating, if you know, more than

755
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,159
just bigfoot. But I wish them the best and I

756
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,639
really look forward to more information on that group. Their

757
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:54,559
website will be coming out in a few months and

758
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:57,800
you can go see that at CEDAR files dot org

759
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,559
and hopefully all of you will check them out and

760
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:02,960
give them your support. Mike and bildrined in us a

761
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,760
great gentleman and it was just a pleasure, uh, meeting

762
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:12,760
them and sharing some big foot discussion. Moving on and

763
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,119
after that was a Billy Road from Virginia who was

764
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,880
one of my favorite speakers. A Billy was fun. Yeah,

765
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:26,320
I mean he brought a very I'm lacking the word,

766
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,079
I lacking the words, but it was very I should say, casual,

767
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:33,519
but comfortable, very inforn of. I mean he had some

768
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:34,239
good stories.

769
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: James, he had a country style. When he te he talked.

770
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:42,639
When he talked, he talked, you know even why and

771
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,119
he he uh when he spoke to him, I lived

772
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:50,559
like you were sitting in his living room, and you know,

773
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,480
he felt comfortable to speak with you, and he knew

774
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:57,920
what he was talking about. You know, he was another

775
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,960
person that toutured the room without trying.

776
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: Mhm, b J. How was your experience were?

777
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good, as you asked. Came to talk

778
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,119
to him a couple of weeks before the conference. That

779
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:12,519
was a good day to meet him as well.

780
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

781
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: Something that I thought was really interesting is they're doing

782
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,599
out there. They're training training eagles to track.

783
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:19,199
Speaker 3: Uh.

784
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: So he has a peetle named Atomy. He put on

785
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,960
a power point there and every weeks only started training

786
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,840
a dog to catch sense and kind of work on

787
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:29,920
uh tracking a big foot like creature, which I think

788
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,880
is really innovative techniques. You know, it may not be

789
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,760
the I Gotcha camera, but it's certainly making good use

790
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239
of the resources at hand. So that was something unique

791
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,159
to d and stand When else really mentioned kind of

792
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:42,400
getting animals and dogs and sent tracking involved U in

793
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,760
the stirp. So that was I thought pretty interesting, uh

794
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,599
thing they're doing there in Virginia. It was interesting because

795
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:51,000
you know, one of the things you hear is that,

796
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,440
you know, a negative reaction towards dogs from the Sasquatch,

797
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,280
and I've never really heard of anybody really specifically training

798
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:02,760
dogs to go out and seek these creatures. And I

799
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,920
really hope there's some success with the project because it's

800
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,480
pretty neat, and of course no harm comes to Little

801
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:09,920
Autumn because as we know, the Sasquad isn't a big

802
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:16,679
fan of the Canaine. So it was kind of a

803
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,000
kind of an interesting piece there from Billy After Billy

804
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:24,400
was probably I would say one of the more unique

805
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,679
presentations in that of Sally Ramsey who was showing off

806
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,920
a ginormous tree twist. And Sally was pretty interesting. Sally

807
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:41,840
and the tree twist found by Olaf Siemens, and.

808
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: It was just it was different.

809
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: James, Oh, I got the thumb on that there drag,

810
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,599
Well was it from Mississippi?

811
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: There?

812
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: I bought that whole thing up from North Carolina? North Carolina,

813
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,519
I get the state's mixed up. Sorry, yeah, but the

814
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:03,000
fact is, you know they discuss about what the tree

815
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,679
twists might look like or hairy. How can you know

816
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,519
you don't really get the real effect and actually physically

817
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,199
look at one and look how the wind couldn't have

818
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,480
knocked that around. Something had been beating on that to

819
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:18,960
get it to twist. The lay good it gives you

820
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,239
a grander scare of that, you know what they're talking

821
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,519
about when they find these random you know, people go, well,

822
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,159
you know, we found this weird thing in the middle

823
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:31,239
of the mirror that makes no sense and there's no

824
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:34,599
animal around that will do that. And then you know

825
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,199
the wheel of this big branch in that's got you know,

826
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,320
the bark just ripped, either offered or twisted so much

827
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,480
around it you could tell that something that's been playing

828
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,920
with it for like four or five hours.

829
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,199
Speaker 1: Well, you know, let's find a dandy to speculate that's

830
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,360
what's made that tree twist. But you know, none of

831
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,239
us were there, none of us saw anything actually physically

832
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,480
do it. And Craig and I have some discussion on

833
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,920
that as well, and there was a lot of uh

834
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:05,800
speculation going on about that too many right else and

835
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,159
not in my fact, Greg, wouldn't you agree.

836
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,519
Speaker 4: Oh certainly, I mean, you know it it was very interesting.

837
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:16,159
It's uh, you know, it's it was pretty amazing that

838
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:21,320
you know, in my eyes, there's no evidence of that

839
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,880
sasquatch related. I don't know what could have done it,

840
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,760
but I don't jump on the bandwagon that The first

841
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:34,199
thing that you should jump on as.

842
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:38,599
Speaker 3: The what created it? Is a sasquatch? I know that.

843
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 4: Uh that's certainly controversy out there, and I'm sure there

844
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,920
would be in the in the chat room as well,

845
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,320
but you know, it's just my opinion. I mean, I

846
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,400
don't know what created that, and uh so I'm certainly

847
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,920
not gonna say that the sasquatch did. There's anything you

848
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,199
make you put it there?

849
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: Well? Oh yeah, I mean if for an outside looking in,

850
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,719
it was a really interesting thing to see. And I

851
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,480
actually I talked to a lot of the night before

852
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:07,239
and he may, ad, you see the treech you see

853
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,360
the twist that brought in. I had no idea who

854
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,000
was talking about, you know, I had to actually see

855
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,000
it with my own eyes. But yeah, it's interesting. I

856
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,480
guess the question that I never had answer is what's

857
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:19,639
the point for what? Where was wor some series behind

858
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:21,599
the tree twist the pigs that would do with for

859
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:25,880
for tracking purposes or for locational purposes and navigation. I

860
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,159
wasn't really sure why I would That's something I'd be

861
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:31,480
interested in hearing some series on. But yeah, I enjoyed

862
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,320
seeing it all the thing. That was quite an interesting

863
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:35,599
artifact to have, right there and it might have been

864
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:38,400
the most uh. I think. I think people really wanted

865
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,519
to have something physical in the room, you know, and

866
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:42,400
that's when you're the one piece of physical evidence that

867
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,400
was in the room with everyone. So it was a

868
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:48,639
hit for that reason alone. I mean, it was chargeable.

869
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:50,159
Speaker 1: I mean, it took two or three men to look

870
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,280
it into the building. And you know, my question is

871
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,639
into the velocity it was fabricated. My question to what

872
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,119
is is you know what made it? And we just

873
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,320
can't go off assuming that every trust in a tree

874
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,800
twist in the wa was just speak for me. Well,

875
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,159
you know, I agree Sean, and the question I had

876
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,920
and I don't know if I poised it, well, Stan

877
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,440
Gordon and I talked about it because you know as

878
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,880
well as I do. Stan Gordon has been doing these

879
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,360
investigations for years and years and years and it just

880
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,360
aughts the same as mine with the tree twists is why,

881
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:30,039
I mean, would why would that be the case. Why

882
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,440
is everyone's assumption that it's sasquatch. I mean, like I said,

883
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:37,519
I don't know what could have done it, if it's

884
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:39,719
read related or what.

885
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:46,519
Speaker 4: Machinery, But I'm just not ready to until I see

886
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:50,719
a sasquatch actually grabbed the branch and twisted around.

887
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,559
Speaker 3: Tired it or not.

888
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 4: I'm not ready to say that it's sasquatch related.

889
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,679
Speaker 2: Oh and I'm not saying that definitely something. I'm just

890
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,920
saying that it just seems like the wind couldn't have

891
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:01,800
possibly done that.

892
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I mean.

893
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: It just seems too you know, wrapped, you know, the

894
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:10,480
wind that would have broke offer it wouldn't have wrapped

895
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,400
it around. It's easy easily. That's why I'm you know,

896
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,760
I not did a person who knows, But the fact

897
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,400
is that, you know, you got to wonder where you

898
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,400
know there's something natural. It doesn't seem like it's a

899
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:25,000
natural event, you know what I mean, Like it there

900
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:27,239
was a real stormy weather and then there there's this

901
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,159
tree that's all mangled up. Well, the thing I want

902
00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:36,480
to that I wanted to pose and I didn't pull

903
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:40,239
it publicly. But but the fact was that, you know,

904
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,440
people are always speculating that well, you know, these tree

905
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,199
twists are found in the areas of reported sasquatch activity.

906
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,760
But the question I had, well, you know, is anybody

907
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,679
looking into areas where there's no sasquatch related activity, and

908
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,880
are they finding these same kind of trees there twist?

909
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,960
You know, I mean if somebody's wanted to do the

910
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:05,599
research on it and wants to say that a you know,

911
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,079
fast watch doing this, well then we can know these

912
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:11,639
when there's no fasquatch activity, and you know, if you're

913
00:48:11,639 --> 00:48:13,719
seeing these same times of things, then maybe that would

914
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,760
rule it out.

915
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we may not ever know what made

916
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,280
the tree twist, but the fact of the matter is

917
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,159
it was still interesting enough to document and we do

918
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,239
thank them for bringing it. It was a hell of an

919
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,880
effort it took to get it here. It took, as

920
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,599
I said, two or three men to even lifted into

921
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:31,480
the conference hall. And it was interesting and thank them

922
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:33,159
for sharing it. But you know, at this point it's

923
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:35,239
still that leaves a lot of doubt in my mind.

924
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,639
Is that what could have you know, if it was

925
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:39,000
made by big footer and even just asked the question

926
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,519
what could have made it or Craig as you pointed out, why, Well,

927
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,679
you know, people talk about when couldn't have done that?

928
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,760
But you know I can show you pictures and bonds.

929
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:55,000
You know, we've done whether the research for years. You

930
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,039
can show you have pictures of two buffalos that are

931
00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:00,360
driven all the way through through an oak tree, you know,

932
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:03,760
in a storm. So I mean storms and the weather

933
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:09,519
in nature can do some strange things than you. They can.

934
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:13,119
And it was interesting. And another piece of evidence that

935
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:16,039
Salah presented well, and she hadn't call it evidence, but

936
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:20,519
it was a piece of interest was the game cam

937
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:23,760
photo that they shared. And I thought that was interesting

938
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,679
in the fact that there's a picture A and then

939
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,239
they have that have picture B, which is this exact

940
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,679
vicinity both. The one thing I did notice is that

941
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,400
there were different focal likes away. One was a little

942
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,039
bit closer than the other. But in the one photograph

943
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:44,840
is a distinct black object in the watered area. As

944
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,599
she points out, you can she's I don't want to

945
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:51,440
say she's modified the image, but the graphic designers or

946
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,320
whatever she the terms she coined, had brought enough detail

947
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,039
out of that so you could see what it was,

948
00:49:58,079 --> 00:49:59,880
and it looks like, you know, there's a distinct brow.

949
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,960
It's interesting and uh, it was just an interesting photograph

950
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:07,840
to me, she said. She pointed out that it's never

951
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,119
gonna prove anything to anybody. Uh, she doesn't know what

952
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:14,039
it is. But not in my life that I was

953
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:15,599
just thankful that she shared it with me because it

954
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:23,440
did piaup my interest a little bit big James, you

955
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:23,760
said with.

956
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm immutely round for a minute there.

957
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: It's just.

958
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: He said, I love to be with something that you

959
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,960
need to hear my refrigerator open in the photo be poor,

960
00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:43,800
you know. But yeah, the pictures and the stuff that

961
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,159
they brought with them, you know, did make a difference

962
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:49,039
of seeing it is more believed, being able to believe

963
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,920
with them, you know, just say we've seen these weird

964
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,519
things and this is what they point to. As the

965
00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:58,679
conference went on, there were a few other things that

966
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,920
they were kind of that, you know, going through signed

967
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,480
to different things, and I think that kind of that

968
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,079
kind of pushed me sometimes towards the other way that

969
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:11,840
some people believe too much and everything they see, Like

970
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,360
we're going on the guided tour and a woman was like,

971
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,920
there's some rocks on top of that stick, and I said, yeah,

972
00:51:18,039 --> 00:51:20,440
probably the construction guys that are making the Jass name

973
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:24,079
got bored, you know, But to her, anything she saw

974
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:25,440
it seemed to be like a sign.

975
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:32,159
Speaker 1: You know, great, did you anything you guys thought about

976
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:33,840
in the picture that was interesting.

977
00:51:33,519 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 4: Or well, I know there were some people there that

978
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:43,360
actually saw the actual photograph itself. I just saw what

979
00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:46,559
was god get you know, shown up on the screen,

980
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:49,199
and from the angle we were at, you know, I

981
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:54,239
could see a you know, a dark area. I wasn't

982
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,440
able to discern any detail from it or anything. So

983
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,719
I got with in that and the sail than you know,

984
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,639
with the photograph that suppose you know, supposed to this area,

985
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,280
and then very you know, a later shot that shows

986
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,920
something so you know it was a dark object in it.

987
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

988
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: As I pointed out too that the sorry DJ, give

989
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,599
me one moment, that the photographs were taken from two

990
00:52:22,639 --> 00:52:26,679
different cameras. The photograph with the object in question was

991
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,840
taken with a four megapixel trail camera. Was the area

992
00:52:31,039 --> 00:52:35,880
beforehand or the area taking was that before? After the

993
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:41,280
shot with the supposed object in the photograph, the area

994
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,960
was taken with an eight megapixel camera. So that sort

995
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,280
of noteworthy is because as you know, more megapixels and

996
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:47,880
I wanted you to blow it up more with more

997
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,760
detail and more clarity.

998
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've been jumping and said I have seen

999
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,000
see the picture the night before at dinner off started

1000
00:52:58,039 --> 00:52:59,880
with me, and it was it was really I mean,

1001
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,679
pretty clear that there's something there. But I mean personally,

1002
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:04,360
I don't I don't trust my head enough, you know.

1003
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,199
I just you had a big foot conference. Someone tells you,

1004
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,880
this is a picture of something that may or may

1005
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,400
not be a big butt, and automatically my mind's going

1006
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,440
in a way that I've seen clotures my eyes as

1007
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,559
much as I be apt in a more neutral environment,

1008
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:18,559
you know, all the same. That was really fascinating for sure.

1009
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:21,119
But yeah, I know, I guess you know, you can

1010
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,599
the pictures so much in the end, and if you're

1011
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,760
there knowing you're supports to maybe see a big boat, you're.

1012
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: You're mind going to play a trick on you their hat.

1013
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:29,599
Speaker 2: That's well, it's all the same, no question about it

1014
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:30,400
was really interesting.

1015
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the pictures were there. I mean, I

1016
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,119
was once again thankful for them to bring it. But

1017
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:41,599
it's the one thing to noticate it is that no

1018
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,480
clue is that we're not saying, you know, anybody's wrong,

1019
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:46,679
or we're not saying that nobody has any evidence. It's

1020
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:49,639
just taking an objective look of what was presented. And

1021
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,960
I said the same on myself is that you know

1022
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:55,960
those photographs they treat my interest. I was interested in those,

1023
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,599
and I thanked her personally. You know, I'm known as

1024
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:01,440
a pain in the ass. Uh, you know, the quote

1025
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,840
unquote romantics. But that's the one thing I require is

1026
00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:09,360
evidence before we start making these these claims. And I

1027
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,039
was really thankful personally that the boy she presented to

1028
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:15,000
the audience was, look, these are the photographs we have.

1029
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,519
They're compelling that they're not going to prove anything, and

1030
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:25,400
I appreciated that. The next, I believe, the last speaker

1031
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,880
we had for the night was I think I'm at.

1032
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 3: I wanted to I wanted to go ahead and make

1033
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:30,840
him up there.

1034
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: I guess living to Sally as one of the romantics

1035
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:39,960
that the worker is that well, is that what you

1036
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,039
were alluding to Sally was one of the romantics? Well,

1037
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,639
I was issusing, you know, the general romantics of a

1038
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:46,519
general category.

1039
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1040
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:51,679
Speaker 4: Well, I know, I know it's interesting. You know I

1041
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:56,000
know that she's isn't she involved with the bfo O?

1042
00:54:56,679 --> 00:54:59,599
I mean they you know, I don't really know that

1043
00:54:59,679 --> 00:55:02,599
much of about the whole deal, but you know, it's

1044
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:05,199
it's for me to thrail in everything that you know,

1045
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,880
not only is she involved, I guess in some formal

1046
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,000
fashion would be the bflo that she's also involved in

1047
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:15,880
film formal fashion that you know Janice Carter. So that's

1048
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:23,840
kind of a interesting uh uh relationship there with everybody involved.

1049
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, that's another thing you have to

1050
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,840
look at when you know the people presenting the evidence

1051
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:34,280
of the associations and their past histories and with uh,

1052
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,840
you know, in the field the associations and some of

1053
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,280
the situations they've been involved in. I know she's a

1054
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,920
big believer and supporter of jan Carter, but you know,

1055
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,639
as I said, the one thing that impressed me was

1056
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:49,440
her you know, objectivity she put forward from presenting the details,

1057
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,400
and I think that was a little bit more palatable

1058
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,159
to everybody in the audience. I think that made a

1059
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,800
uh made it a little bit easier for some people

1060
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,559
that very skeptical and I know the background to swallow it,

1061
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:06,320
even myself and I had a conversation with her engine

1062
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,360
Carter at the conference, and they understand where I stood,

1063
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,400
and I thanked them for providing us with what they have,

1064
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:16,320
but at the point told them that you know, I'm

1065
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,480
not gonna be believe her until they showed me the monkey.

1066
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:20,079
Speaker 3: You know.

1067
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't get a chance to talk to Jenna,

1068
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,119
but Michael thirty and I were entertained by her. I

1069
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:33,159
believe four year old to Hunter for a period of

1070
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,519
time there after the conference and her her daughter is cute,

1071
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:38,360
attic for sure.

1072
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:42,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was something else. She had me busted the

1073
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:49,280
seams for a few minutes, dancing around talking to everybody. Hilarious.

1074
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,440
So it brings us to the last speaker of the

1075
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:58,320
night there, guys, was Tom Lancaster, and Tom had the

1076
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:02,360
I think the off part of trying to make science interesting,

1077
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:05,719
and Tom had a lot of science he was discussing.

1078
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:08,840
But I think the biggest problem with the presentation is

1079
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,840
that everybody was getting up. That was the end of

1080
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,719
the night, and people were getting up and I think

1081
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,119
distracting some of the other people that really wanted to listen.

1082
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:19,800
Because Tom had a lot of science to go over,

1083
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,800
and some of it was very interesting, and I had

1084
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:29,159
to guilty that I got the world when he started

1085
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:31,039
going into the whole gts and everything. So I was

1086
00:57:31,079 --> 00:57:33,239
hoping that one of you find gentlemen on the line

1087
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,360
and I could fill me in on what Tom the

1088
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:41,679
meat potatoes of Tom's presentation. I don't know if you

1089
00:57:41,719 --> 00:57:43,599
caught any of that, James or DJ or, because I

1090
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:47,119
know Craig and I were discussing some of what Tom

1091
00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:51,000
was saying, and then it went pandemonium with the audience.

1092
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm going down and got something to eat. Well, I

1093
00:57:55,519 --> 00:57:57,920
came back to basically what he was trying to do

1094
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:01,599
is look at where tracks were d gp ass and

1095
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:05,119
then from there he was going to see if they

1096
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:11,039
pointed towards another track. But I think that he got

1097
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:14,519
sidetracked on some of the comments some of the other

1098
00:58:14,599 --> 00:58:17,559
people made, and that was where he kind of said,

1099
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:20,400
you know, they we're not tell sure, And you know,

1100
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:22,920
I think I think some of the people that weren't

1101
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:25,840
listening well or didn't want to listen to what he

1102
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,679
had to say kind of like gotting flustered.

1103
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: There was an old prick in the audience who was

1104
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,559
just a pain in the ass during that presentation, and

1105
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,119
I think it was the same man that was a

1106
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:42,079
pain in the ass to me on the Guard tour.

1107
00:58:44,119 --> 00:58:47,840
But it's one of the things you always got to expect,

1108
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,159
I guess when speaking of one of these conmises, is

1109
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:56,360
that someone's always going to have a heckler it did

1110
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,360
you anything you'd like to add to Tom's presentation? Ye,

1111
00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:02,519
good presentation. It was frustrating, right, everyone was kind of

1112
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,920
pitching midway through. It was a long day, so we'll

1113
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,000
give it to him. I think seven hours of straight

1114
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:10,480
presentations is tough for anyone. But he mentioned a lot

1115
00:59:10,519 --> 00:59:15,480
about looking for hydrogen sulfide and sillennium in the environment.

1116
00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:18,119
He's trying to do something with one of those. I

1117
00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:20,280
here which chemical compound. One of those have to do

1118
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,760
with reproduction for nursing milk, I think, and so I

1119
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,079
want to do with reproduction cycles and that sort of thing.

1120
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:28,840
But it's very I guess that it's got some really

1121
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,679
great ideas. Just trilling to listen in horror when squeaky

1122
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,440
chairs and people are wandering around, you know, kind of

1123
00:59:36,519 --> 00:59:38,599
leaving like you said. But yeah, definitely definitely a lot

1124
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:40,280
of marriage that he had had to work with. I

1125
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,239
think that's a lot of the most scientific group really

1126
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:45,239
working on the science back kind of thing. That a

1127
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,719
little validity, a little more validity to the field. So

1128
00:59:48,679 --> 00:59:53,159
it was good. It was really enjoyable. Well, correctly it

1129
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:55,760
has ended. Why don't you go and played the conference

1130
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,639
for the people that have been catching the archives so.

1131
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 4: You can get your information that Texas Bigfoot Batter organ

1132
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,840
the conferences. UH October eighteenth from Jefferson, Texas, Peter Burn,

1133
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:12,400
Henry Fahrenbach during a Holy Field Alton Higgins door, I'll

1134
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,519
call you. Kathy Strain is gonna be speaking now.

1135
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:17,719
Speaker 6: Uh.

1136
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,239
Speaker 4: Rick Moll will be there in attendance. Spent some time

1137
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,360
at Rick yesterday up in the Boggy Creek area, UH

1138
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:30,320
filming for a five monster episode of Monster Request. So

1139
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,519
that was interesting. Uh left the area about one thirty

1140
01:00:35,559 --> 01:00:38,360
this morning and got home about six thirty this morning.

1141
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,159
So but uh stick and I hired and kevinly Mosquito bites.

1142
01:00:44,239 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: Well, guys, that's all the time to have done there.

1143
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,679
But I thought the personally take a moment, thank you

1144
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,599
Craig for uh, you know everything at the East Class

1145
01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:52,760
State for conference recon. Had a good time. Finally nice

1146
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,599
to meet you and to hang out, and UH thanks

1147
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:56,679
for joining us here tonight.

1148
01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: Thereint no problem, guys, and DJ I'll go ahead all

1149
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,559
for sure, that's right, and UH, I'll be looking forward

1150
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:08,480
to coming to some of those future Texas conference In DJA.

1151
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: Margna was going to have then. I hope to make

1152
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,159
it DJ soon. It was a pleasure meeting you, and

1153
01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:18,760
I'm surprised you regained your son of the after studying

1154
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,679
a lucent with James and I, I.

1155
01:01:20,679 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: Will the guys would be doing thought from over this summer.

1156
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,719
I really would take out and been a day or

1157
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:26,519
two with you was a blos. I can't thank you enough.

1158
01:01:26,519 --> 01:01:27,840
I want to tell you real fast. When I was

1159
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,159
in the airplane on the ride home, I opened the

1160
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:32,880
sky Mall magazine and there in the sky Mall was

1161
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,679
the exact uh Perino Uh Sasquatch three day to Nicky

1162
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,559
right there they're selling right there on the airplane. It

1163
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:43,519
was unbelievable for all, unbelieved right toward all send studio.

1164
01:01:43,559 --> 01:01:45,119
But yeah, thanks again, guys. There was a block and

1165
01:01:45,159 --> 01:01:46,719
I got a lot of writing going on. I said

1166
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,119
the question that I'll be in.

1167
01:01:48,159 --> 01:01:49,079
Speaker 6: Test too, don't worry.

1168
01:01:49,519 --> 01:01:52,679
Speaker 1: Well, fantastic, keep those questions coming. Uh, folks, you've been

1169
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:55,719
listening to the Sasquatch Experience on Folker, James Baker, Credit

1170
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,320
Will Eater and BJ Hollows Uh keep on s question everybody,

1171
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,079
good night. We'll see you next week. Melissa Hovey will

1172
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:05,639
be discussing her casting project. So stick around because next

1173
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:08,480
week we'll be talking about Melissa's feet more.

1174
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: Will also be covering the dotted poor we there we go, Yeah,

1175
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,239
I all fye

1176
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: M hm