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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Christina and Carmen and this is another

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episode of a Spooky Tales podcast for all things a

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spooky true crime in Latin America. Today we have a

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haunted story from Columbia and then we also have a

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teue crime case from Central America. I was telling Carmen

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before we hit record here though, that last episode was

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our two hundred episode and we didn't even didn't announce it,

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We didn't prepare anything. Yeah, that's a big milestone. Yeah,

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two hundred episodes. So yeah, that happened. J Yeah, go us.

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We're still been here the whole time. You have been

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here the whole time. There was never a change in hosts. No, no,

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we miss him jam Yeah. All right. Before the topics

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that we have planned today, we do have a listener

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story and if you have a story that you want

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We love receiving your stories. So yeah, this is from

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someone their name it is not on here, So if

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Sorry there. Hopefully you recognize your story. Okay, so it goes. Hi,

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I'm new to your podcast. I have been listening non

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stop to catch up. I'm finally at twenty twenty two

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with the Historic Women episodes. That was a while ago.

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It was in twenty twenty two. Wow, like we were saying,

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I forget how old this podcast is now. I wanted

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to first say thank you for calling Booklet dictator. You're welcome.

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So far, I've been the only other person who's been

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like they're on their way to dictatorship, and everyone just

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gives me the side. But the way they've been trying

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to raise history is wild, down to wanting to remove

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the headstones of former gang members. You can't erase history.

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And at the end of the day, these are people.

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A gay activity in the SATA came for so many

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of the whares awful, very true. Yes, Yes, I also

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have a spooky story. When I was sixteen, I lived

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behind a church in North Hollywood. My mom was at

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work and I was sitting on my bed when I

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looked towards my door. If you went and left, you'd

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go into the bathroom, and right you go into the

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living room through a short hallway. Well. Crawling towards the

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bathroom with the back legs straight and in a ripped

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up and dirty white shirt was a girl with long

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black hair, not Samara from the ring so it sounds like,

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and her skin looked kind of yellow. It scares the

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shit out of me. I begged my boyfriend to stay

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on the phone until my mom came home. When she did,

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she asked what was wrong, and I asked if anyone

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was in the bathroom. She said no. Then I told

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her what I saw, and she asked me if I

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was high, and then yelled at me about why I

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didn't crawl out the window and couldn't give her a

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heads up because what if the thing attacked her? True?

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Oh my god, I'm sorry, but I love your living action.

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It was like first told me, wrong with you for

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running away? And why didn't you tell me the thing

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could still be here? Are you trying to come inside here?

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Oh my god. So we're talking about Castillo Maroquin today

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and it is located in Chia, Colombia, a city and

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municipality in the department of gundin America, ten kilometers in

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north of Boota because of how closer it to ba

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Chia is now a suburb of the city. So before

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the castle was ordered by Lorentzo Maroquin Ossolio, it was

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in acienda called Acinda Eda Buena, owned by the Maruquin family.

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Lorentzo Marouquin was a son of former Colombian President Jose

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Manuel Marroquin, and this is where the name of the

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castle comes from. Construction for the castle began in eighteen

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ninety eight and was completed by nineteen hundred. Architect Gaston Lelaque.

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Is that Spanish name not? I think it's European lilarge

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yea Gueston Ghastan like Ghistan being the beast. Yeah. Anyway,

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that guy designed the castle and was influenced by European

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architecture and Renaissance art, which made it the only type

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of a building of its kind in the region. This

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time period in Columbia was full of turmoil, and we

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won't get much into it because it's a lot and

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this is not a history podcast or so DAEs Unknown,

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which is our history podcast. Yes, but there was a

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revolt after revolt, ultimately leading to a civil war. The

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Marouquin family, or specifically Jose Manuel Maruquin, came into presidency

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after a coup. I'm like, why did the names how familiar?

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I guess maybe that's that's because you just did a

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whole four part series on the Panama Canal. No wonder.

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This is all happening when Banama was still part of Colombia,

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and there were many reasons for the war, among them

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being Banama wanting independence, which surprisingly the US is involved in.

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Not surprisingly, It's like, you know, no, yeah, the surprise

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surprise me mon TikTok where the guy is just like

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sitting there and the songs it's a surprise surprise, something

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that's not a surprise, and then he lives them and

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he's like, surprise surprise. Okay, yeah, I think I have

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seen that. That's all I say. I see and saying

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it yeah, yeah, my bad, that was my bad. So yeah,

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this was all happening while the castle was being built

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on their ACNDM. Initially, the Marouquin family used the castle

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as their home their primary residence, but over the years,

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the castle has drawn several admirers and has also had

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several owners, which include a writer, oil tycoon, and a

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cartel boss diverse. Very Currently, the state owns a castle

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and it is managed by the educational institution, the National

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Pedagogic University. But the experiences of the Maroquin family until

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the very last owners have made it my believe the

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castle is a magnet for bad energy and that it

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causes tragedy for its owners and employees. Jose Manuel Marroquin,

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the former president, his own mom is said to have

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been a victim of the castle's curse. His mom disappeared

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while visiting the chapel located in the attenda, according to legend,

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while the rest of the family was in the chapel

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about to start praying at the rosary like they did

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every day. I'm sorry, every day is too much, right,

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it really is. Yeah, But back then everyone was even

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more Catholic than now. Yeah. By everyone, I mean all

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the Latinos. You know, they had just been converted, not

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that long ago they had. I was just going to

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say that next. Wow, it's like we're twins and we're matching, right,

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Oh my god. The twining is like extra today. That's why.

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It's because we're matching, not only physically, but when we match,

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it's like the mental connection is the Okay, so that

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excused herself from the rosi, which honestly, I would also do.

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It was January sixth, a day that is infamous in

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many areas. Oh god, it really is twenty places, in

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many time periods and in many countries across time and space. Wow. Okay,

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it was January sixth, eighteen twenty eight. She went to

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grab a shawl because she was cold, but she never returned.

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That's kind of crazy to just go get a shawl

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and never returned. Yeah, it is a little bit out there. Yeah, okay.

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After weeks of searching, the family found her shawl near

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the Bogota River, but she was never seen again. Then

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the rumor started. Campsinos believed she was taken by demons. Honestly,

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that would have been my first thought to in eighteen

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twenty eight. Yeah. Others say she fled with the Frenchman. Interesting.

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I wonder what's going on there that they were like French.

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It was a Frenchman she took off with him. Interesting. Indeed,

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there was even a detO that began after she disappeared.

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People would say this when they didn't know what was

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going on. Imagine sucking dying and everyone starts saying this,

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Imagine you're dying.

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Speaker 2: Imagine her mom goes and missing because she likes to

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get a shaw and then you don't know what happened

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to her, but you find the shawl next to the

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river and she never comes back. And then the compassinos

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around town or everyone, I guess, whenever they don't know

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what's going on, they all say, I love that it rhymes.

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Everything is better in Spanish first of all, like than English,

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but believe it also yeah, the fact that it rhymes. Yeah,

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leave it to Latinos to take this tragedy of a

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children losing their mother, a husband losing his wife, and

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then they're gonna make it rhyme. They're gonna start saying

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it after they don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. No one's saying no, it's a we're lost

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in the sauce. No, Like I'm gonna try to remember

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this to just adopt it. Also, yeah, to start saying it,

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and so in English it would be but it isn't rhymes.

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That's not as cool. No, And honestly, I had a

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little trouble transcendent in so it'd be like if you're

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talking about something and then you're like, well that and

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also the thing with the Nida will be known in eternity, right,

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Like they're not going to know any of this until

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we die, and then it's not gonna happen. Yeah, like

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we'll never know until yeah, yeah, very macabb. The family

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later tried to calm these rumors down by putting out

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a death certificate which had the date of January seventh,

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eighteen twenty eight as her time of death. It stated

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that her body was found in a body of water

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between two buildings in Yea Babuena. Strangely enough, it was

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almost exactly where the castle would end up being built. Weird.

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The reports stated she had injuries on her head and

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a dislocated shoulder. Instead of putting down rumors about her disappearance, though,

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people just had more questions, something that remains a mystery today.

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One thing is sure, though, Since her disappearance, strange things

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started happening in the castle. A standal workers began to

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hear this reams of a woman by the small lake.

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They all believed that was crying because her son was

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all alone without a mother. Oh, and then they said, esan,

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oh my bad, that's not even wow. She said it

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all wrong, not even how it goes, doesn't even rhyme

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when I said it's wrong. When she died, her son

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Jose Manuel Marukin would take charge of the assenda business.

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So he took over the assenda business because sadly, his

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father also died. It could be said her death marked

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the start of the castle's curse. During one of the revolts,

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one of the many rules of the time, the assenda

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was burned down. It had to be rebuilt from the ruins.

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Then tragi continued to affect the family. Five of the

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eight Maruquine children all died mysteriously, all in a span

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of a month. Still, the family persevered and things were

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turning around. The country's rich were getting richer, and in

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this turn of the century was when Lorentzo Maruquin had

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the famous castle built. The castle became the presidential house

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during Columbia Civil War. It was also where politicians gathered

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to do political things like negotiating the cell of Panama

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and the Panama Canal. And if you want to learn

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more about that, checkout Studas Unknown Who are Carmen talked

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about it for four episodes. Yes, for that reason, it

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became a dangerous place and a target. Now we're in

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the a thousand day War. At some point during all

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of this, a Panamanian tried to bomb the castle with

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the president in it, but he felt As years passed,

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the Maroquin family began to leave their home for Spain

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until it was completely abandoned. It fell into a period

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of disarray, and the family eventually did away with the castle.

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They sold it in nineteen fifty two to writer and

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doctor Roberto Estrepo, who in return did not do much

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to clean up the castle's reputation. He turned the castle

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into a psychiatric hospital. Well, that will further fuel cursed allegations. Yes,

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oh yeah, he's never beating the curst allegations by turning

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this into a psychiatric hospital. But he died four years

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after this endeavor, fueling the castle's curse. There it is

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not bidding the curse allegations. During its time as a hospital,

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there were many reports of patients dying by suicide. One

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patient hung herself from the main balcony and another hung

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herself from a nearby tree. And in nineteen seventy the

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Venezuela oil tycoon Guillermo Villas mel purchased a property he remodeled.

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It added a pool and additional bedrooms for guests. Gulledmo

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decorated the home with beautiful and luxurious furniture he purchased

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from all over Latin America. He put flamingos in the

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property and had over two hundred horses. Flamingos horses very luxurious.

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I mean two hundred horses. That's pricey, that's flamingos. Come on, right,

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I didn't you think about the flamingos. I just think

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about how expensive horses are. Sadly, he never got to

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live in his dream home. On the day he was

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set to move in and throw a party to show

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off his new house, his plane crashed again for their

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feeling the talk of the curse. Wow, never beating the

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curse allegations, Nope. The castle's history took a more sinistter

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turn in the eighties and nineties after it was purchased

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by the cartel boss Juan Camilos and Patabasquez, who was

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connected to Pablo Escobat and Gonzalo Rodriguez Gacha. His nickname

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also happened to be El Brujo. Okay. He was accused

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of being paranoid and killing anyone he believed to be

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an informant. He allegedly practiced black magic in the castle

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with the help of a local Bruja. He wanted to

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use it against his enemies. They said he did satanic

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rituals involving animal sacrifices in the gardens and midnight forest gatherings.

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Midnight forest gatherings, I want to be invited to one

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of those bright but not by El Brujo, who is

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also a drug trafficker. No like someone else. He had

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two white horses that mysteriously died. He was killed in

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nineteen ninety three during a firefight with police. His death

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was the end to all the Bruchhelia and the castle,

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but not the end to the curse or the hauntings

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don Dun Dun. After his death, it became a state

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property and visitors could rent it out for events and parties,

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But tragic events continue to happen on the estate once

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in a while during a party or wedding. When something

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goes wrong, like the electricity stops working, people believe it's

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part of the curse. In July twenty twenty four, Brandon,

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I'm sorry, Brandon. Stephen Rodriguez, who was twenty seven, died

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while working on their property. In addition to Rodriguez's death,

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two other workers were also injured when they were helping

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to set up the music festival nexus Fest, which was

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scheduled to start July sixth. Chias Mayor Leonardo Donoso took

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to social media to announce that the death and injuries

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were a result of a accident. Colleagues told Brandon Rodriguez's

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mother that he was setting up a flag on a

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flag when he was struck by an electric shock. The

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mayor ended up canceling the festival that was supposed to

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happen on the sixth, again not beating the curse allegations.

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I mean, that's cursed. He was up on a flag

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pole and then he was hit by lightning. Yeah, like

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you know how rare that is. Only a curse would

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explain that. Yeah. And so that's only one of the

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issues right at the castle, because in addition to the curse,

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there's also a haunting or haunting's plural Okay, more than

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one visitors claimed to feel anxious, heavy, and sad. Even

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when it's supposed to be a happy celebration. They hear footsteps,

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only to turn around and see no one there. People

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also see orbs around dawn. They have also seen the

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spirit of a dog dragging chains. One security guard who

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works the night shift, claims to have seen one of

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the castle's most famous ghosts, a spirit nicknamed La s Angna.

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He was making his rounds when he saw a woman

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in the distance. When he tried to approach her, she vanished.

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First of all, I love a spirit the cute nickname, Yeah,

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me too. No one is sure at what point the

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spirit of La Sancna visited the castle during her lifetime,

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but she ended up there in her afterlife. Those who

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have seen her all describe her in the same way.

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She's a very tall dressed in all black and her

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face is always covered. She roams the north side of

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the castle crying and carrying a dead animal in her arms.

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That's kind of weird. She roams around crying, and then

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she sits on a rock near the back of the castle.

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Because of the crying, some have compared her to La Na.

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But when La san ConA makes a gesture of sitting

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down bending her knees, they rise and her legs grow

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so much that in the end she's not seen, remaining

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hidden behind the enormous and lanky legs. I'm trying to

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picture it, but I can't I picture like, I'm kind

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of picturing it, like, Okay, she's like sitting down, but

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her legs grow like so big to cover her, so

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that all you see is a pair of legs. Are

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her legs in front of her? Yeah, ok hmm. But

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it says she sits down bending her knees. Oh okay, no,

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I think she's I think I get it, like like yes,

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but her knees. I get it. I get it. Now.

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If you want a demonstration, you can watch this on YouTube. Yeah,

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Carmenta demonstrated. Yeah, okay, where was I So that's where

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her name Sancona comes from. I put this in parentheses

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the Spanish translation because I'm like, I don't understand what

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they're saying, like where legs go where? But okay, want

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to mention it. Gando estavan elevandolnao calfinan no selave lasormes

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e largiruchasuas Vietna's so her legs are too long, And

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I guess that's what means maybe like linky like linky legs.

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Oh maybe missus long legs, mother long leg in twenty fourteen,

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a production crew visited the castle with the intent of

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filming a documentary. None other equipment worked, and camera operators

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kept hearing whispers and sounds from empty rooms. Don't like that. No,

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not at all, No at all. While trying to film,

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one camera person felt a cold hand touch their shoulder. No.

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When they turned to see who was touching them, No,

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one was nearby. Another crew member passed out and began convulsing.

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They had to stop filming and quit the project. Some

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workers claimed to see the figure of a woman hanging

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from the bank from the main balcony, which is where

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one of the patients died by suicide. Others have seen

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Elina Vesa in the property and the headless horseman. Okay, oh, okay,

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sleepy hollow. No, this is the Colombian one. Yeah, And

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have we talked about I don't remember that. I honestly

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don't remember. I don't Maybe we haven't. No, we've talked

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about other headless figures and Dcinka Vesa, I remember that, Yeah,

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and then other figures on horses, but not a headless horseman.

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So he's seen that, a black horse with red eyes

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and an ear piercing wine. Sightings of the horsemen date

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back to before the castle's existence, from the ascianda days. Maybe. Yeah.

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Workers of the castle today try to avoid staying past

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seven thirty pm for some reason. Almost always from that

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time until nine pm, the figure of a six foot

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tall man dressed in black roams the garden at the entrance.

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He's then seen walking away and vanishes into the surrounding forest. Okay,

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what the hell? Why is there so many spars a law?

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I think it's because there was an acnda before. And honestly, yeah,

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aciendas are always terrible and they're always good. Happened there? No, no, Wow,

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that's Castillo Marquin. Wow, it had been a while since

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we had like one long haunted place. Yeah. I like

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that was fun. Yeah, fun and scary and cursed. Yeah. Okay,

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I guess we'll take a little outbreak here and come

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back with my half of the episode. And we're back,

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so we'll just hop right into my case. On January first,

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twenty twenty two, a hundred family was enjoying their New

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Year celebration in the island of Rotan, Induras. We have

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actually talked about in another episode La Brujacleo. Is that

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episode all taking place in Rotanas, but this is a

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tourist location known for its beautiful beaches, and then, sadly,

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what should have been a fun vacation turned into one nightmare.

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This was the day that changed our lives forever, and

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one with unexpected ties that are still not answered today.

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Angie Penya, Lizzie Pena, and their mother, Michel Melgaries were

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spending time together on the beautiful beaches of Ratan, and

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they had a lot to celebrate. Angie had just graduated

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with the bachelor's in business from Yuna tech U Nivesida

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Technologica Central Americana in de Gusi, Galpas, where the family

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lived together, also the capital of Onuras. She loved music, sports, life.

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She wanted to start her own business. Everyone knew she

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had a fright for sorry, everyone knew she had my

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decx yaha, it's just like a Friday. They all knew

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she had a bright future ahead of her. Sadly, all

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of that changed. On the first of twenty twenty two,

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around four pm, twenty two year old Angie and twenty

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four year old Lizzie rented two jet skis together. They

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went out onto the West Bay Beaches and while they

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were out there, Lizzie lost sight of her sister Angie.

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At first, stave like, oh, she'll reappear in a second. Here,

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I just can't see here right now, but you know,

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then ten minutes went by and there was still no

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side of her anywhere, and now Lizzie was worried that

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she couldn't find her sister. She called her mom, Michelle,

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and told her, I can't find Angie. And so Michelle

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ran from the hotel room down to the lobby begging

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for the hotel's help, like find help find my daughter, please,

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and they said no, we can't. We don't have anyone

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to go search the hotel or the water. So then

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she ran out to where the girls had rented the

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jet skis, and this place also refused to help. They

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said there wasn't enough gas for them to go out

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and search. Michelle then offered to pay for gas, and

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they were still like, nah, we can't help. Wow. Yeah,

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she tried the lifeguards. They also refused to help it,

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which is bodd honestly. Yeah, and sadly this marks how

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the rest of the search and investigation into her daughter

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would go. She found the same uncooperative attitude wasn't just

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limited to the hotel, but the Roatan police officials too.

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Michelle realized that she would have to work to figure

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out what happened to her daughter herself because no one

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else was helping. She left behind her life in Tegucigalpa

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and moved to Rotan permanently to dedicate herself to finding Angie.

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She paid for private air searches. She paid for hotel

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employees to go out and search on jet ski's, paying

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for their gas, which they were unwilling to do that day,

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but later when she paid, they did it. It apparently

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takes money to have some cooperation. Yeah, she followed every

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tip she came across the Luckily, the Coast Guard of

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Belize were cooperative. They started their search on the second

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of January after a call from the Benyat family that

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was like, our daughter was out there. She went missing,

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so they started searching. They searched the k's and I

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don't like, I'm not a tourist, I don't know what

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this is, but apparently there's like kisks their gays in

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Spanish c A. Yes, I guess it's just like a

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type of area in the beach. I don't know, but

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they have different names. Like there's skayet, buttonwood, hunting little

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water jacks. They're all different like resorts, I think. Okay,

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that was not very like you know when there's like

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a like a long coast and then like it goes

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like this and there's like a maybe is it like that? Okay,

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So they're just like small, a small, low elevation sandy

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island on the surface of a coral reef. And so

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they searched case between Belize Dratan, these caves, hunting little

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little water jacks and button wood, and they searched for

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three three days. The Coast Guard did the Belize Coast Guard.

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Michelle and Lizzie joined on several of these searches, almost

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ever research they were out there with the coast Guard.

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Local fishermen were also helping look for her. On the

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third of January, the Ondura Air Force also joined the search,

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and they did this like every day. They were flying

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f hundred feet just trying to see what they could see,

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and they were just like making sweeps of this area.

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On the fourth, the family made a public statement begging

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for the public's help to look for Angie, and they

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were also calling out the Roatan government for not helping

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and not being cooperative, and yeah, everyone found it extremely

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odd that they hadn't found the jet ski at least,

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because like find not being able to find someone, I

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think you can explain away, like oh, they just didn't

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they haven't resurfaced or something, but a whole jet ski,

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Like they were like, why haven't we found that at least? Yeah,

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it's weird. Yeah, And the Rotan authorities insisted that Angie

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had drowned in some jet ski accidents, and they refused

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to state like if there was any other explanation for

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her disappearance. Michelle, on the other hand, began to believe

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there was a possibility that Agie did not disappear out

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in the sea like the Roatan officials were stating. She

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believed that if she had disappeared out in the sea

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in this jet ski accident, the jet ski would have

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been found or she would have been found herself with

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a resurfaced at some point, and so she was starting

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to believe that's like not even what happened. Finally, on

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the eighth of January, whole seven days after Angie disappeared,

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around four forty of that day, the Belize Coastguard and

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Belie fishermen came across an orange life fest and a

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red cable. They turned these over to the Honduran authorities

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on the tenth of January and they came to the

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conclusion that this was Angie's life fest and a red

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cable that was the kill switch for the jet ski

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that she was using when she went missing. But when

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they showed the vest to Lizzie, who you know, left

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that day with her sister on the jet skis, Lizzie

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insisted that this was not her vest. She was not

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wearing this interesting and so she was like, that's not hers,

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but they didn't listen. Then the Belize Coast Guard, the

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Onduda's Coast Guard, and local fishermen. They were making two

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rounds of searches every day. These searches covered thirty to

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thirty five nautical miles. Each time they returned, they gave

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the same update La Patria. The patrol concluded the search

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and reports that they were unable to locate Miss Jipana.

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This report changed on the eighteenth of January because just

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after two thirty pm, local fishermen that were part of

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the search team came across what seemed to be Angie's

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jet ski. It was found in the mangroves, and those

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are like these like watery trees almost the roots go

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into the water and they're like just floating there, I guess.

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So it was found in the mangroves on the eastern

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side of Jack's K facing Buttonwood k areas that they

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had already searched. If you recognize those names from a

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00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,640
little bit before. Yes, And also I was just gonna say,

467
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:51,680
like if somebody left it there, right, So this jesski

468
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:55,880
that was found was then towed to the tarpaulin k

469
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,680
and it was handed over to officials. The jet ski

470
00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:03,680
was completely intact. It looked a little too new, especially

471
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,039
for having been found in the mangroves and having been

472
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,279
supposedly floating in the water for eighteen days, and for

473
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,799
having travel hundreds of kilometers between it floating in the

474
00:28:13,839 --> 00:28:17,400
water them taking it back to that cave from the

475
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,279
other cavee like it should have looked worse than it did.

476
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,519
So Michelle then traveled to Placentia to take a look

477
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:27,839
at the ski, and she was like, why does this

478
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,240
ski look so intact and clean? Like this doesn't make sense.

479
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,880
She grew suspicious. She felt like they weren't even searching

480
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,400
the correct place anymore, and that Aggie had not gone

481
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,319
missing out in the sea like she was very suspicious now.

482
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:44,200
Also in the jet ski there was ear rings and

483
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,079
a necklace that also looked like new, like they should

484
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:50,000
have looked damaged if they had been out in the water.

485
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,960
According to Michelle. She was asked if these blanks and

486
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,759
Angie she wasn't sure, but also again they just looked

487
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:59,279
undamaged and they were out in the ocean for almost

488
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,839
twenty days on the eighteenth that these things were found,

489
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:04,079
the jet ski and the jewelie on the jet ski.

490
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,119
But Michelle wasn't the only one growing suspicious. Back in

491
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:12,400
on Duras Janelli das the girls Tia, she was also

492
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,039
starting to question things because she had been receiving pictures

493
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,079
from during the trip from the girls and Michelle, and

494
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,440
like according to her, nothing was liing up either. She

495
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,680
could not believe that in the numerous searches of the

496
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,680
area the jeske had not been found until the eighteenth

497
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,920
and then when I was founded, it looked clean and intact. Yeah,

498
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:33,440
if it had been in an accident like you would

499
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,839
think it would look like it. I don't know yeah, right,

500
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,640
I don't use Jeki's so I don't know neither, but

501
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,119
presumably it's been exposed to elements in eighteen what eighteen days, right,

502
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,880
you said it was yeah, yeah, so I mean it

503
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,920
wouldn't look back pegginy or yeah. Yeah. Then something new

504
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,000
came to light that cemented Michelle and Janelli's suspicions. A

505
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:00,599
new witness came forward and he stayed that he was

506
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,880
sure he had seen Angie on her jet ski near

507
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,640
West End, another tourist area in Roatan, northeast to the

508
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,440
area where the girls had gotten the jet skis. The

509
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,759
witness saw all the news reports that were it was

510
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,240
like all over the media, and so he was watching

511
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:21,240
the news and he was like, why that I saw her?

512
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,759
And he realized like it was the first of January

513
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:28,519
when he saw them from his hotel balcony. He saw

514
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:33,559
Angie on her jet ski with an Islander, so a

515
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,119
Roatan local, and he remembers her because her vacency was

516
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,519
very bright and it was a very bright pink. Okay,

517
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,240
you notice it right away, yes, But more than that,

518
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:49,000
she looked uncomfortable in her interaction with this local. Then

519
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,799
he saw another man approach the man and Angie, and

520
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,000
this other man looked like he gave the islander, the

521
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,640
Roatan local, some money. With this new information, Michelle went

522
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,759
to the authorities and begged them to take a look

523
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,440
at the cameras of this hotel that the man was

524
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,759
in and of nearby businesses. But it was too late

525
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:11,119
because when the police went over to ask for this

526
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,880
information to be handed over, the hotels and the businesses

527
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,599
had deleted everything from the first several days of January Wow,

528
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,559
which again further cemented Michelle's suspicions that something was going

529
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:25,960
on here, something was fishy, nothing was adding up. Then

530
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,359
it got worse when at the end of January, the

531
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,319
principal investigator assigned to the case, Carla Savalla, quit answering

532
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:35,960
the family's messages and she blocked Michelle's phone number. So

533
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,640
the family started to believe like there's more going on here.

534
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,079
They started to think that the government or the state

535
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:45,200
of Rotan was involved on its yeah, and they started

536
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,319
to feel like Angie's disappearance was a little too close

537
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,680
to a twenty seventeen cas or a twenty six year

538
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,079
old Marta Fabriola Males also went missing while on a

539
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,000
jet ski what what is going on? And she was

540
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:04,799
never found. To this day, Martha has not been found.

541
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:10,559
Martha's own mom. When the media was publicizing Angie's case,

542
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,799
Martha's own mom, Fanny, met with the media and said

543
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:18,160
that you know, her daughter disappeared in the same way,

544
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,920
in the same area as Angie, but she couldn't afford

545
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:24,200
to continue the search, like Michea's mom and like it's

546
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,599
crazy that they need money. He shouldn't need money for that. Yeah,

547
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,559
seven months went by with zero news and the family

548
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:33,480
decided to try and ask for the government's help. They

549
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,160
wrote a letter to Onduas, the government of Ondurdas, about

550
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,920
how things were adding up in the investigation, about how

551
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,039
the Rotan government, like local government, was unwilling to help them.

552
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:47,839
And on top of that, they had hands it over

553
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,880
Angie's phone two investigators in Ratan, and it seemed like

554
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,519
someone had been using Angie's phone. Her picture from her

555
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,160
WhatsApp profile was deleted, and Angie had been removed from

556
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,400
group chats, and she was showing up as online on

557
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,079
whatsapped because it tells you when someone is online. So

558
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,920
during those seven months, yeah, during those seven months, wow,

559
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,400
they had handed over the phone and someone deleted her

560
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,880
picture from WhatsApp, removed her from group chats, and just

561
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,039
once in a while it said she was online. And

562
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:24,359
they're like, obviously it shouldn't they shouldn't be seeing that. Yeah,

563
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,720
because they handed over the phone. It shouldn't be. There

564
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,119
should be no activity on it, right, And at the

565
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,559
end of the letter, they expressed their belief that she

566
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,119
had not gone missing out on the sea, but instead

567
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:39,079
she was taken somewhere closer to the hotel for the

568
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,559
purpose of sex trafficking. They believed the state was involved

569
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,319
in this trafficking ring, and after they sent this letter,

570
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,400
the government of Honduras did quickly get like working. They

571
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,160
assigned new investigators to her case. Wow, and by the

572
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:58,319
end of this new investigation, it seems that Michelle's suspicions

573
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,200
were validated. So authorities never it's just at least it's

574
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,319
not public. They've never disclosed what led them to this

575
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,360
next part of the investigation. But something was uncovered during

576
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,159
this new investigation that led them to a man named

577
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,119
Gary Lee Johnston. Gary Yeah, Gary Lee, Gary, what are

578
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,480
you doing there? Get out of there? An American that

579
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:26,320
had been living in Dratthaan for six years. Oh, they

580
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,840
rated his property looking for Angie. So something led them

581
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,760
to believe she was there. I don't know, I feel

582
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,280
like I'm not even saying words anymore. I was just

583
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:43,480
like just incoherent grunts. I heard Gary and I was like,

584
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:50,920
bitch starts crowling. Okay, So something led them to look

585
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,360
for her at his property, and sadly they didn't find her.

586
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,920
But they did find a twelve year old girl some

587
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,840
sources say seven but underage either way, a minor, a

588
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,760
barely clothed miner in his apartment that had been a

589
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,679
missing for a while. She had been trafficked to his apartment.

590
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,000
I think that they shouldn't allow older white men to

591
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:21,199
go to these kind of countries or just be banned

592
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:22,840
from it. And I know that sounds wrong, but I

593
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,519
think that we need to think about the what did

594
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:30,440
they call it? Pastro tourism? Oh? The past part, bros.

595
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,480
Is the I guess link term. Well, because sadly sex

596
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:37,519
tourism isn't even like it's it does involve trafficking. And yeah,

597
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:41,440
like it's called sex tourism, but it's involves trafficking and

598
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:46,400
exploitation of miners always, you know what I mean so yeah,

599
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,679
bad old white man from entering tourist areas. Please yes. Anyway,

600
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,039
So on top of the underage scroll, they found trafficked

601
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,559
in his property, they found the bay didn't say that

602
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:04,599
Angie had been wearing when she went missing. What Yeah?

603
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:09,360
And they also found ours of child sex abeest material.

604
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,440
Ooh what the fuck? On top of that, I knew

605
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,119
it the minu he said, Gary, I was like, but yeah,

606
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:19,440
what I mean, like your bells were ringing for a reason. Oh,

607
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:23,239
sixty three year old Gary Johnston owned the condemn Minium

608
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,719
building where he lived. So like, why is this man

609
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,639
able to go to another country, buy own condo building

610
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:34,119
and exploit girls? Yeah? For real? So he owned this

611
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,039
building where he lived, but nobody else really knew him.

612
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,480
He kept himself and he was arrested on August twenty ninth,

613
00:36:41,559 --> 00:36:46,840
twenty twenty two, and Deputy Security Minister Julisa bien Weba

614
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,320
stated that they believed he was not working alone, that

615
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,000
he was never are Yeah, of course they never are,

616
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,599
and that he was part of an international network of

617
00:36:54,679 --> 00:36:58,199
human trafficking that went by the name Delta Teams. What

618
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:03,199
and so? Then and in April twenty twenty four, two

619
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,840
Americans were arrested for abducting women to be part of

620
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,599
this trafficking ring. Oh my god. They were William James

621
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,119
Murdoch and Harold Green along with an undurant man named

622
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:21,760
Gustavo Treco. And there's another person authorities believe were involved

623
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,880
the disappearance of Angie. So these three they have connected

624
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,280
to Angie somehow. They haven't made this public, but that's

625
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,400
what They were arrested for trafficking and for being connected

626
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,400
to her disappearance. The fourth man is Anthony Frank Grayson,

627
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,199
but he has been like he like ran off. He's

628
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,599
missing somewhere like nobody can find him. They're unable to

629
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,119
locate him. But he was the owner of a hotel

630
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:50,079
boutique called The Dock in Ratan, and authorities believe that

631
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:53,280
this is where the trafficking ring worked out of. They

632
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,760
operated out of his hotel, the Dock, and they also

633
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,840
believe Angie Beenya was at the Dock for at least

634
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,440
three days. At some point, these men were all charged

635
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:07,559
and arrested. It seems that were awaiting trial. I can't

636
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:11,039
find any new information, but as of twenty twenty four,

637
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:14,639
they were arrested and their lawyers insist that their clients

638
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:19,079
were not involved with Angie Beanya's disappearance. Michelle's mom is

639
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,760
still holding out hope that her daughter is out there alive.

640
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,880
She maintains her belief that the same people helping her

641
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,760
search for her daughter were involved police judges. She's like,

642
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,800
they're having they have someone's help because yeah, their past,

643
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,639
yeah right, and with like the owner of this boutique

644
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:39,880
operating a sex ring, someone has to know and someone

645
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,199
is keeping it hidden to let them get away with

646
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,840
these things. Yeah. As of the end of twenty twenty four,

647
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,039
the case seems to be stuck. Angie is still missing

648
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,519
and Anthony Frank Grayson has not been found to bring

649
00:38:53,559 --> 00:39:00,119
in for his arrest. So wow, I hope Angie is

650
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:04,280
found me too. And it's like it also begs the

651
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,840
question why we're the local authorities so insistent she went

652
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,079
missing and we're like refusing to help, Like it's it

653
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:13,440
really does seem like something more. It makes it it's

654
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:17,000
very fitchy behavior. That the fact that the first over

655
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:21,639
two weeks of when she first went missing, that they

656
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:25,400
were completely unhelpful, and then it took that letter for

657
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,599
more like something else to happen. Yeah, well, and then

658
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:34,400
the involvement of a yeah yeah, outside agencies to look

659
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,199
into it, Yeah, which makes the seem like there are

660
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:43,960
involved probably, yeah for sure. Yeah, that's that's the more

661
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,800
suspicious part. But yeah, I hope she's still I hope

662
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,239
she's found. And yeah, that was the case of Antipinia

663
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:56,719
that I think. It's like, it's an important story to

664
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,440
tell because it brings a lot of issues to mind adults,

665
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,760
Like we already talked about it's a whole passport bro

666
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,519
and sex tourism, which is predatory. And I agree with

667
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,519
you that old white men should be banned from Latin

668
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:15,639
America and the Philippines. Yeah, and wherever else they go,

669
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,920
the Global South, the Global South, anywhere that's not here, honestly,

670
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,840
because that's where they come from from here, you know

671
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,760
what I mean. And there's a whole well, I mean,

672
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,599
like we said that, Yeah, there's a whole movement of

673
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:33,599
men looking for women from the Global South because they

674
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:38,239
believe women from the Global South are more submissive and

675
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,679
also like desperate to lead their situations, so exploiting them. Yeah,

676
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,360
disgusting behavior. Oh no, go ahead, I was just gonna

677
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,199
say they believe that women from here United States are

678
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,639
to have become too not feminized, because that's the wrong

679
00:40:57,679 --> 00:41:01,960
word masculine. I guess like they have like they're two

680
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:06,119
feminists for their liking. They stand up for the rights

681
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:09,559
too much, so that's why they look to the Global South,

682
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:13,559
which there's a large feminism movement in the Global South too.

683
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,239
Like this is into ridiculous. Yeah, they don't even know. Now,

684
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,599
have you seen on TikTok there was like a white,

685
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,000
old white guy who was yes his thing. Well, I

686
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:26,639
didn't see it on TikTok, but I watched the YouTube.

687
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,519
Do you watch Kat Black on YouTube? No? She has

688
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:33,639
been making content for the longest time. I think I

689
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,880
first discovered her like twenty fifteen probably, oh wow, and

690
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,920
she I don't remember how I found her, but she's

691
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,679
a trans black woman. She's been making videos about politics,

692
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:52,199
trans rites, feminism, current issues sometimes just like internet things

693
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,199
for a long time. And that's where I saw this

694
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,559
man that you're bringing up. I'm pretty sure it's the

695
00:41:56,599 --> 00:42:01,679
same man, the guy with the wife from Vietnamese wife, yeah,

696
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,800
or my Filipino wife. I think it's I want to

697
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,000
say it's Filipina. Yeah, yeah, so he would he would

698
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,119
start every video my Filipino wife, blah blah blah blah,

699
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:12,760
my Filipino wife, like anyone who starts off like my

700
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,840
Latina wife, my Mexican wife, my Filipine Like, they don't

701
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,239
see you for you, they are fetishizing you. Yeah, there's

702
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,920
nothing I hate more. Did you see also that? I

703
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,440
think it's like a screenshot going around. If you're a

704
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,440
white man and you're starting off any tweet as mentioning Latina.

705
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,000
Has just stop something like that. I mean, go on.

706
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,679
I haven't seen it, but a while back he made

707
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,519
another TikTok where he was like, my Filipino wife has

708
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:42,079
become too americanized. She divorced me, Well, she was trying

709
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:45,239
to divorce him. They didn't actually getting divorced. I was

710
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,800
reading still together. You know why, because she found out

711
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:54,239
she was pregnant sow baby trapped her. My heart goes

712
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,960
out to her. Yeah, oh, I can't even say that anymore.

713
00:42:57,039 --> 00:43:03,400
It's been just do it in Spanish, goes out to her.

714
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,679
They're so fucking dumb. We're not going to get into that.

715
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,159
But I just can't stand the videos of when that

716
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,960
first happened, where all the people were like my heart

717
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,039
goes out to you and then they're like doing it

718
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,960
with their hand up and then everyone says gense videos

719
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,559
and they're like, yeah, flip your hand around or do

720
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:27,400
like a wide shot. Like yeah, there's too many stupid

721
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,199
things going on right now. But I want to write

722
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,880
up another point about this about sex trafficking right and

723
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,400
I think I've been to countless trainings about you know,

724
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,000
in the social social work world. That's hard to say

725
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,920
all the once all the W words, you know, but anyway,

726
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,119
I've been to a lot of like sex trafficking and

727
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:59,119
c sex, which is child sexual ex wait sex commercially

728
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:03,880
sexually exploited child children. Okay, that's set. It's uh yeah,

729
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,519
so it's like a term for sexually exploited children basically,

730
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,599
they just you know, they say se SEC. So I've

731
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:12,519
been to a lot of trainings about that sex trafficking

732
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,360
sea SEC. There's a lot of organizations around that help

733
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:19,400
se SEC youth and whatever. But I think that there's

734
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,480
a huge miss in peace and a lot of these

735
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:26,039
kinds of trainings. One of those is that if sex

736
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:31,679
work wasn't so stigmatized, then victims of sex trafficking would

737
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,599
not feel a shame to come forward and leave those

738
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:39,320
worlds because sometimes they're they're right, it's forced, right, But

739
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,760
a lot of times children that are trafficked, they grow

740
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,199
up like this and then they stay in the world

741
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,800
of in the sex world is what they know because

742
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,920
it's what they know, but also because there's a stigma

743
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,400
to it and they're there's shame around around it, so

744
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,599
they they don't feel like they can ask for the

745
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:01,920
help that they need or whatever else do anything else

746
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,320
because of the shame tie to sex world, sex work.

747
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,960
I mean, this makes sense. Yeah, And so like I

748
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,400
feel like that's like always missing from these trainings and

749
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,760
that's why, like the discussions around feminism, around sex positivity

750
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,840
are so important, because if people are ashamed, they're never

751
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,280
going to come forward for help. Like shame is the

752
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,719
number one thing of you know, keeping these things like

753
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,320
secret and hidden. And yeah, so I just wanted to

754
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,960
mention that that's important. Yeah, thanks for bringing that up

755
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:39,480
and your perspective as a social worker. Latina TM. Yes, yeah,

756
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:46,000
you're welcome. La capital e capital L yes, yes, Indian

757
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:50,679
Old English. Yeah. Okay, Well with that, we'll take a

758
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:59,119
little outbreak here and come back with spooky recommendations and

759
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:04,800
we're back. Do you have any spooky recommendations? I started

760
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,000
listening to Thirst, which you recommended. Actually, I don't know

761
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:09,639
if you gave it as a speaker recommendation or we

762
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,840
just talked about it in one of our Patreon episodes.

763
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,800
It was a vampire media. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

764
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,599
not done yet. Where am I at? I'm curious. I'm

765
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:27,159
still at the perspective or point of view of the past. Okay,

766
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,199
And honestly, that was so good to me. It is

767
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:36,119
so good so far. I loved just okay, her trying

768
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:40,440
to survive, going from house to house, the yellow fever. Yes,

769
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,280
so I guess you should say what it's about, right,

770
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:50,440
But Christina finished it. So it's Thirst by Marina. You.

771
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,639
I don't know how to say this. You skook you suok.

772
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,880
Maybe it's spelled y u s z c z uk.

773
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,960
She just shrugged for everyone not watching anyway. So it

774
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:11,960
is the nineteenth century, the twilight of Europe's bloody well,

775
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,000
I don't know how pronounces were backanles whatever, and the

776
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:20,480
vampire vampire must escape. She arrives to the coast of

777
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,199
Buenos Aidis and for the second time in her life

778
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,920
watches as villages transform into a cosmopolitan city. She adapts,

779
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
intermingles with humans, and attempts to be DISCREETE that's the

780
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,159
part that I'm at right now, and it's absolutely beautiful

781
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:36,679
the way it's written. Okay, then goes on in present

782
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,440
day Buenos Itis, a woman finds herself at an impasse

783
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:42,719
as she grapples with her mother's terminal illness and her

784
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,320
own relationship to motherhood. When she first encounters the vampire

785
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,480
and a cemetery, something ignites inside the two women, and

786
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:52,880
they cross a threshold from which there's no turning back.

787
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,840
But echoes of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein Thirst place with the

788
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,599
boundaries of the gothic genre while exploring the limits of

789
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:05,559
female agency, all consuming desire, and the fragile vitality of

790
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:09,119
even the most immortal of creatures. But Yeah, I'm really

791
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:12,559
liking it. I love the Yeah. When she finds herself

792
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,639
in the villa, I guess it would be the empty villa,

793
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,840
and she just kind of like chilling there until I

794
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,599
don't want to spoil it too much, but until she's

795
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,519
forced to leave the villa, I guess, yeah, And then

796
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:27,360
she ends up living in the cemetery, which is I mean,

797
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,199
that's in the summary, so that's not a not a spoiler. Yeah,

798
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,280
but yeah, there's just there's so much love, and it's

799
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,119
all kind of love straight love, lesbian love, because it

800
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:44,079
all yeah, and it's yeah, it's just it was very

801
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:49,159
interesting to see her in the past surviving. I love

802
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,760
reading like a like about the past, but like in

803
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,880
a gothic like type of novel, you know, like Isabel

804
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,880
that's like, that's what gotic and that's what this first

805
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:00,920
half I guess. I don't how is it like half

806
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,159
of it or more? Pretty much? Okay, pretty much half. Yeah,

807
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,280
that's what the first half is giving. And I was

808
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,280
again not a huge fan of the second half. If

809
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,039
I could have just read the first half, I called

810
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:15,840
it a day, but I was like, to finish. I know,

811
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,760
we need to do our book club episode. I felt

812
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,760
it also, we really do we need to do the

813
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,039
book club episode? To start those notes? I did start them,

814
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:27,880
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, I really want us to do

815
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,920
it so that we can pick our next book. I

816
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,519
know there's so many possibilities for the next book too,

817
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,559
And I think that we need to consider changing the

818
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,559
name of the book club because I actually read very

819
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:48,719
fast now that i'm again, but I don't, so we can't. Okay,

820
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:53,039
so I don't have speaking recogmindations. I honestly don't know

821
00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:58,119
what I've been doing other than oh, sorry, I've been dying.

822
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:02,320
That's what happened. You were sick, Well, first I was sick, No,

823
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:05,599
but then I got my period again, and y'all, I'm dying.

824
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,400
When I have an extreme fatigue, I literally need to

825
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,840
sleep her off all over and just start sleeping anyway.

826
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,239
So then my life is wasted while I'm on my period.

827
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:19,079
I hate it. I'm seeking medical hope because, yeah, I

828
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:21,400
have plans to go to the gym, but I literally

829
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,840
can't wake up. I'm so fatigued. I'm in so much pain.

830
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,840
It's miserable. So i'n't been doing anything. Today I finally

831
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,559
feel normal again. Well like yesterday, I felt a little better.

832
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,760
But yeah, that's why I haven't been watching anything scary.

833
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,360
I did randomly start watching this show called Day Zero

834
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:42,880
on Netflix. It's a thriller. It's new, and I started

835
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,840
watching it because the cast was stabbed to Robert de Niro.

836
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:52,000
Angela Bassett is the president. Ok. Wow, I actually would

837
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,400
have watched her in anything. I love her. Yeah, so

838
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:59,039
she's the president in this show. You never watched Breaking Bad.

839
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:03,760
But what's his name? He's, for some reason one of

840
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,079
my other favorite white men. He's married to Christian Jesse guy.

841
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:13,960
Oh wait, his name is, isn't it Jesse Plemons? Yes, yeah,

842
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,920
I don't know why I know that, honestly, because I

843
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,360
don't really watch anything. Because he's married to Kristen Dunce.

844
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:23,400
Could be it could be. Okay, Well, for some reason,

845
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,679
I love that man. I don't watch anything that he's in.

846
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,360
He's a really good actor. I've seen him only, I

847
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,840
feel like, in a few other things, and I don't

848
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,760
remember most of them. But I watched he kills or

849
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,079
type movie. He's like a villain most of the time, too, right,

850
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:42,800
isn't he? Yeah? Yeah, So he's in this The Mean Girls.

851
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,039
You know the is her name Janet? She's Katie's friend

852
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:53,760
the Yeah, yeah, okay, Janet Janet from The Lebanese Girl. Yes, yeah,

853
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,760
she's too. Yeah. She is also really good in this role,

854
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:03,440
so she's in it. A lot of big names of

855
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:08,360
the favorite white man, Dan Stevens Quieter. I told you

856
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,039
he's in that vampire movie. Oh, he's also in Legion.

857
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:15,000
He's like a villain in the movie, right, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

858
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:18,519
he's in this show too. All your favorite white people,

859
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,880
all of my favorite white people, and Angela Bassett like, yeah,

860
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,840
you can't go wrong. So I don't know. I'm almost

861
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,280
done with it, and honestly, like, the actors are all

862
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:36,039
so good, and but I'm like, where's the story going? Interesting?

863
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:38,719
And I've seen criticus of the show where it's like

864
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,559
the cast were stacked, but the writers just I don't know,

865
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:44,760
it wasn't there like something they lost the pot. It's

866
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,559
that's what it seems like. So I don't know how

867
00:52:48,599 --> 00:52:51,000
I feel about it yet. I'm almost done with it

868
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:53,440
because it's very short. It's like a six episode thing.

869
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,920
So but I'm kind of feeling like, yeah, the actors

870
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,559
are all really good in their roles. Each one is

871
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:05,280
killing it, but where is the story going? Yeah, That's

872
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,880
what I feel about it. So I don't know if

873
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,079
I recommend it. I just wanted to say I'm watching

874
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:13,719
it because I was impressed with the cast because sorry,

875
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,639
that made me laugh, because it was a top notch

876
00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:18,760
cast and I'm like, all right, I have to check

877
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,400
this out. These are again my very white people, Robert

878
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,079
de Niro, Jesse Plemmons, Dan Stevens, and then Angela Bassett

879
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:27,639
was president. So I'm like, I gotta watch this, but

880
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,360
I guess the whole premise I guess of the show

881
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,639
is this event called Day zero is what they're calling

882
00:53:33,679 --> 00:53:37,199
it after it happened. But somebody shuts off all the

883
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,480
electronics systems in the US for one minute on this

884
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:44,480
day that they're calling Day zero. And so because all

885
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,599
these things shut off at the same time, planes don't

886
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:50,480
planes don't know where they're going, they crash, Trains don't

887
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,840
know where they they can't. It's like, what's the thing

888
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,360
that was going to happen from ninety nine to why

889
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,119
two K? It's like why two K? Yeah, but for

890
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:03,400
twenty minute? Yeah. Then actually happened while in the show,

891
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:10,000
right right right, not not irl, but like three thousands

892
00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:12,440
something people died from this. And then there's like the

893
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,400
whole countries on edge because it was an attack, and

894
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,519
first of course they're trying to be in Russia. Then

895
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:22,960
they're like, okay, who caused this? Meat answers, Yeah, a

896
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,280
little spoilery, But because this happened, they put together a

897
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,280
commission that's gonna like try and figure out what happened.

898
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,360
And they give this commission like all the power in

899
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,320
the world. They can violate people human rights right like

900
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,199
the Constitution because they're trying to figure out what happened.

901
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,440
And Robert de Niro is in charge of this commission

902
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:48,960
and he was former president. Interesting. It's a good premise.

903
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,719
It sounded so interesting. And again I'm on episode five,

904
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,400
but I'm like, all right, but like like things are happening,

905
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,840
but it's just not I don't know something's missing. But

906
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:02,079
I'm still going to finish it because I'm only what

907
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:03,920
episode away ye at this point and okay, yeah, I

908
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,960
mean at that point you might as well finish. Yeah. Yeah,

909
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,800
it's an interesting premise. And again the cast was sacked

910
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,400
and that's enough to hold me there. So yeah, but

911
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:19,280
I don't know if I recommended it, and yeah, that

912
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,760
is on my head and I guess shout out to

913
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,119
our newest patron member. I forgot to look at your

914
00:55:27,159 --> 00:55:29,199
name of that out. I'm sorry, but thank you for joining.

915
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,119
Thank you for joining. If you want to help us

916
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,599
with mutual aid or looking for different organizations once a month,

917
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,400
don't need to, you know, join the Patreon because twenty

918
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,079
percent of that goes to that mutual aid help. But also,

919
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,119
you know, if you want to hear episodes where we

920
00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:50,119
read scary stories to each other, it's usually me reading

921
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,639
them to Carmen. We just said one about mirrors and

922
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:54,519
it was very fun. It was a fun episode. It

923
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,760
was it really was very scary stories. Yeah. Also before that,

924
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,519
I talked about our favorite evm hire media. We're gonna

925
00:56:01,519 --> 00:56:03,400
go to Mexico next month, and if we don't die

926
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,920
in the plane then yeah, if we make it to Mexico,

927
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,880
then we were planning on recording some content for Patreon

928
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,880
as well. So yeah, other than that, I don't know

929
00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:17,719
anything else to add. No, I think that's it. Okay,

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stay a SPOOKI and we'll catch a real on next time.

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Bye bye. As Booktels is hosted by Christina and Carmen,

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produced and edited by Christina, researched by Christina Carmen, and

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with the help of Don shout out with Don. If

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you aren't joying the podcast considerably, going to say five

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star review, we would really appreciate it. If you don't

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want to the Professor review, just don't leave a review,

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but don't leave anything lower than that, please, I'm just kidding.

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You can reach out to the podcast at a Spooktels

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at gmail dot com. You can go to our website

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at bukitos dot com and fill out the contact form.

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If you want to support the podcast, you can join

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our Patreon, where we send exclusive stickers, have bonus episodes.

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Eight dollar members get an exclusive key chain. It's super cool.

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I got new ones and these ones are huge. And

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if you you want to support, but you can or

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don't want to join the patreon, that's fine too. You

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can also get some merch. You can find shurets to

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say as spooky and old English letters. There's a beanie.

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I love the beanie. There's also a hat. There's a

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no Mamus shirt which is a fan favorite. There's a

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lot of options, crap tops, sweaters. It's almost swetter weather.

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We're nearing a spookie season, so yeah, get your hoodies.

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You're gonna need them. If you don't want to do

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all that, that's fine too. You can just listen like

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you're listening now, and that's the best support that you

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can give us, Like I always say in our ad

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break and yeah, if you like history, you can follow

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Estoia's Unknown Mining, Carmen's other podcasts, and you can find

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a Spooky Tails on all of our socials at Spooky

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Tells All. This is in the show notes and we

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appreciate every single listen. Thank you so much, stay as

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Spooky