WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.080 Where's the room for them on the sidewalks? Or are 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.679 you going to build something? Is that the idea that 3 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:10.039 we have behind a boring company to go underground for 4 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:12.039 the robots to walk around or fly above? 5 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:13.359 Where's the room for them? 6 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:17.879 Well? Actually, actually you can. You can fit all humanity 7 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:22.960 on the poor in the city. That's how small humans 8 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:26.760 are and octopus doesn't mind being pastically how much room. 9 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:27.199 Do people take? 10 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:29.440 And and this is why I think just having it 11 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:31.320 in the back of your mind that all eight billion 12 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:37.479 people on Earth can fit on one floor in the 13 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:38.520 city of New York. 14 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:41.960 So play. Another way I think meet is if you're find. 15 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.759 A cross the country and you'll go is to drop 16 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:47.600 a water blapoon on someone you you will fail. 17 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:50.000 Because it's empty. 18 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:52.280 We used to do that when we were in eighth grade. 19 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:59.280 We got them though. Yeah, So so Kaitlin, don't worry. 20 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:01.439 There's enough for so One of the things I think 21 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:04.719 about when you talk about Optimus is that there are 22 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.560 so many functions that it can perform. What's going to 23 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:09.959 be left for humans? Is there a job that humans 24 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:12.319 going to have other than just living? And you know 25 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:16.680 this great abundance that you're going to create what's going 26 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:17.120 to happen? 27 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:20.200 Well, I think there is this question of coming, Oh 28 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:24.480 how you write me? If the robots can do everything? 29 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:29.000 But we see lots of example where even though machines 30 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:34.519 can do much better humans sool like athletic experts, or 31 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:38.079 let's take up a mental school like chess, computers are 32 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:41.159 so good at your phone not even connected to the internet, 33 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:46.560 can beat magnus calls easily, but yet chess is that full. 34 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:47.959 Time huts and popularity. 35 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:53.120 So really, machines being better than something doesn't mean we 36 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:56.239 drives that doing. 37 00:01:55.959 --> 00:02:00.400 The functions that you see these robots doing is what 38 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:01.200 what are they going to do? 39 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:02.879 And why is that? How are we going to have 40 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:05.040 a billion of them? And we have eight billion people. 41 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.519 Look like it's gonna take us a minute to make 42 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.080 a billion robots. So you know, I don't love you, brace, 43 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:11.759 but but I think we will. 44 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:16.159 There will ultimately be billions, billions of human robots on 45 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.439 a way to think that is, who want to not 46 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.879 one their own postal R two D two T three 47 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:28.039 p oo like pretty much goos you know three po. 48 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:32.039 Even better like your personal help for buddy robot. 49 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.240 It would be great, Uh, you could teach you teach 50 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.120 your kids taking balk from a walk, get the groceries, 51 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:42.039 you know, chat cushats, you know, protect you where need 52 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:45.919 is great? And then how many robots would it be 53 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:50.479 an industry providing products? So it's probably three or four 54 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:53.960 to one relative to humans, which which suggests that total 55 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:57.520 number of robots will be somewhere around maybe his highest 56 00:02:57.520 --> 00:02:58.000 forty billion. 57 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.599 Don't forty forty billion? Maybe give you thirty billion robots. 58 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:02.639 It's a lot. 59 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:07.240 So the Japanese company is Kokop. Those robots that are 60 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:11.039 used in manufacturing are fifty one hundred thousand, one hundred 61 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:14.159 and fifty thousand. And you're describing a robot as twenty 62 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:16.479 thousand dollars. We have to have a million a year 63 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:19.159 to do that, with ten million a year to get 64 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:22.240 to twenty thousand dollars. And is that something that's going 65 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.360 to be affordable for people? Are they going to be rented, 66 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:26.680 They're going to be purchased corporations. Are we going to 67 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:28.759 get some kind of carried interest once they buy them 68 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:29.199 from us? 69 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:30.879 How is that going to work? Or don't we have 70 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:31.520 the model yet? 71 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:34.560 My rough guess is that the costs to get sold 72 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:39.120 their labor materials for optimus after we reach a million 73 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:41.800 units of study state production, So call it a year 74 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:44.479 after reaching a million units a year because it takes 75 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:45.960 a lot of effort to. 76 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:48.120 Improve the cost. 77 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:51.360 But at that point, I would expect the bullet the 78 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.479 labor materials to be twenty to thirty thousand dollars in 79 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:56.400 count year dollars, and that's a pretty I think that's 80 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:57.520 a pretty safe estimate. 81 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:01.360 When you're improving costs with cars, your idea is that 82 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:04.759 everything we buy from other people to use in our cars, 83 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:08.120 we know exactly how much it costs, and therefore we 84 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:10.159 can tell someone how much we're going to pay for 85 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:12.479 what we're buying from them, and if it doesn't, if 86 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.360 they're making too much, then we make that stuff ourselves. 87 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.480 Is that the same kind of idea we have in 88 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:19.759 this robots where we're going to it should be much 89 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:20.680 simpler to make in. 90 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.759 A car or my rom because in a hand. 91 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:25.360 That the hand is, the hand is extremely complex. There 92 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:29.360 are fifty actuators in the hand in the hand and 93 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.720 for actuators the motor, yeah, actuator is the motor Gearbucks 94 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:35.680 and par electronics, So that's one hundred per robot. Really 95 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:41.639 a lot of loot actuators and sensors. Approximately, there's a 96 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:42.519 lot of complexity. 97 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:44.560 Why is that important? Why is it important that we 98 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:45.639 have such a complex hand. 99 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:48.279 In order to do dexterous tasks, you have to have 100 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:53.000 hand with the sensitivity, precision, and degrees of freedom of 101 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:55.680 a human hand, you know. The So something that is 102 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:59.319 we find easy to do, like kick up a screwdriver 103 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:04.759 or ranch or even say thread a needle or play 104 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:08.600 the guitar, actually require a lot of dexterity. But one 105 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.360 of the reasons we think we can achieve sustainable abundance, 106 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.759 which is sort of the news of the revised version 107 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.800 of the company's goal, because it was accelerate sustainable energy, which, 108 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:19.600 as you mentioned, we've we've done that. 109 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:23.480 Our new all this sustainable abundance. So that's abundance for. 110 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:26.360 All, and but in a way that is sustainable that 111 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.360 does not destroy any of the national worlds. 112 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:30.720 How do we decide who gets what? 113 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:33.399 Somebody wants to buy my house, they can just come 114 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:34.639 in and start living there. 115 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.560 Well I'm not sure why. I mean, I do have 116 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:39.759 a nice house, so. 117 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:45.519 I can certainly see to see the appeal the robots 118 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:47.439 will bill to make anyone else you know, as long 119 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.879 as you don't just on it being in a particular location, 120 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.439 you can have Robsill be able to build you a counsel. 121 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:57.560 So but the reason for pandect dexterity is we won't 122 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:02.959 be able to do like surgery and precision medical actions. 123 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.480 So imagine a world where everyone has access to the best. 124 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:10.279 Search literally everyone, and Optimus will have the level of 125 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:13.839 precision that is frankly superhuman and will be able to 126 00:06:13.879 --> 00:06:18.839 do medical procedures of very sophisticated medical procedures, any medical procedure, 127 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:21.360 perhaps things that really humans can't even do because they're 128 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:22.800 too they're too difficult. 129 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:24.519 And that will be available to anyone. 130 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.279 People often talk about liminating poverty in providing great medical care, 131 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.160 but they never actually have a solution, and money doesn't 132 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:34.600 solve it because there are only so many it's a 133 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:36.959 very limited number of great doctors and surgeons. 134 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:40.040 They don't grow on trees, but now they don't get 135 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:40.800 built in factories. 136 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.600 So I sent you a year or two ago an 137 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:45.759 article about a young man who was an interview in 138 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.839 Barns and he was thirty three at the time, and 139 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:50.800 he'd become a portfolio manager and he lost his legs 140 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:54.240 to a It was a Paralympic performer and he lost 141 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.639 his legs to man eating bacteria. And I said, is 142 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:58.120 there anything we can do to get him out of 143 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:01.079 the wheelchair? And you said yes to is in three 144 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.199 or four years we can give him an optimus body 145 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:09.319 and then we can use you know, transistors in his head, 146 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.000 in his brain, so let him function as a normal person, 147 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:15.439 dance and sing and walk and run. Have we been 148 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.360 able to make progress in that area. 149 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:20.319 Yeah, So that's a compost of bovine companies. One is 150 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:23.480 being neural Link and the other being Tesla. Neural Link 151 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.319 is also making good progress. Now has I think over 152 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:30.759 ten patients with neuralink implants and these people who didn't 153 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:32.920 have the ability to remove their farms or legs in 154 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.680 some cases were completely locked in like speck step hooking. 155 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:39.519 And they can now communicate and think as quickly, almost 156 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.040 as quickly as we're communicating right now, which is very cool. 157 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.240 And that's that's going to continue to accelerate. What we 158 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:49.040 can do is a neuralink implant that is taking signals 159 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:52.920 from the motor cortex brain and also receiving signals from 160 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:56.800 the semato quarters. Amatter of sensory cortex and then give 161 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:01.439 someone uh who's lost their legs fimis legs and so 162 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:04.199 you I mean, we're really getting like the six million 163 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:06.040 dollar man here, I mean from back in the day. 164 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:07.319 I don't know if you watched that show, but I 165 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:07.600 watched it. 166 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:08.879 Watch I watched it. 167 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:10.680 Yeah, that was pretty hmmm. 168 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:15.279 Yeah, And we can actually give someone superhuman cybor capabilities 169 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:17.680 like the six million dollar man, but less than six 170 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:20.800 million dollars in the next day at age. I mean 171 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:23.319 six million dollars back then was fourteen in these days 172 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:27.720 it's leg millon. But we're much less than that. I mean, 173 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.000 like for something that that would be reasonable and affordable, 174 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:33.240 you know, it might be well like sixty thousand dollars 175 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:35.039 type of thing, and you can take signals from neural 176 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:37.320 laying to mind that would be transmitting to legs, and 177 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.799 transmit those to the attached optimous robot legs and he 178 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:43.440 would actually be able to run fast than a human, 179 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.120 just like six million dollar. 180 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:49.679 Man in ruralin sounds really exciting, It sounds unbelievably excited. 181 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:54.200 The switch to XAI. So three years ago, you. 182 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:57.200 Were here and you would either just purchased or about 183 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:01.320 to purchase, you know, Twitter, which you've renamed X. And 184 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.240 you were widely criticized for that. 185 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:04.639 And yes it was right. 186 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:08.440 In fact, you even mentioned here on stage that you 187 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:11.120 didn't want to have anyone else be angry at you 188 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:15.000 because you had enough people trying to kill you already totally. 189 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.759 So you were buying you were buying X and it 190 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:20.919 was forty two billion dollars I think, and you were 191 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:23.000 in the process of raising money. And I called you 192 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:25.360 up and you hadn't called me to solicit me. And 193 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:27.960 I called you up and I said, I would like 194 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.320 to invest with you one hundred million dollars in this 195 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:34.000 and it was sixty million dollars for one of our 196 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:37.879 funds and forty million for me. And and you said really, 197 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:42.840 said yeah, You said really, And I said yeah. 198 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.279 And you told me that you thought. 199 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.360 I would make a double and I said, well, I 200 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:51.159 hope so, but to me, it felt like you made 201 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:54.720 us eight billion dollars in Tesla and be not very 202 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.720 appropriate if I didn't support this new venture that you 203 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.879 were doing. So we invested and then the day that 204 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:06.639 we pay the money, we marked it down seventy So man, this. 205 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:08.360 Is this is how I know your a true friend 206 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:13.960 run because this is a you know, I do regard 207 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:14.440 to you as. 208 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:16.840 A as a true, true, entrusted friend. 209 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.480 And you know, the test of friendship I got more 210 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:27.759 to the storyship. The test of friendship is is who 211 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.080 supports you when the chips are down and the tans 212 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:31.480 are tough and everyone's against you. 213 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.240 That's a real friend and that's you run. 214 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:33.840 Thank you. 215 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:37.159 So so we did invest that one hundred mark down 216 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.919 to thirty and then about a year later we started 217 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.840 getting phone calls from edge funds who always seem to 218 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:44.159 know things we're not supposed to know. 219 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.600 Yeah, yeah, they do, right, And. 220 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:51.120 They started saying, I'd like to buy your stock for 221 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:52.799 what you paid for it, and I said, I think 222 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.919 I'd rather wait to say in which I did. And 223 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:59.799 then and then change the name to X and change 224 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:04.639 the configuration of business. And then from that you bought 225 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.360 Twitter and it came together in a social network along 226 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.279 with this, and all of a sudden, we have a 227 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:14.960 business that has incredible data. Did you buy this for 228 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.120 the data that no one knew about? But their data 229 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.799 with six hundred million people talking with each other, it's 230 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:21.759 a physical. 231 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:22.679 Data that no one else has. 232 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.559 And then you started rock, which is based on our 233 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.960 data and everyone else doesn't have that, they got digital stuff. 234 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.120 And then when they have grock, then we need more 235 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.799 data centers, and you're building those. And in a space 236 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:39.200 of a very short time, less than months, you built 237 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:42.720 a data center which is four times as large as 238 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:46.879 anyone else on the planet, twenty five thousand what other 239 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.440 people had in CPUs, and we built it in GPUs 240 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:55.080 one hundred thousand more powerful. And then you know, now 241 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:58.000 we're going to go to hundreds of that. But the 242 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:00.799 bottom line is the investment that we made. We put 243 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:02.799 up more money and we have a total of three 244 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.120 hundred and fifty million dollars invested over the past two 245 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.559 or three years, and now it's worth seven hundred million dollars. 246 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.399 Everything you touch is like that. It's the most unbelievable 247 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:12.120 thing I've ever seen. 248 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:17.360 So so everyone's investment in technology, and we are investing 249 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:21.480 in in the technology person best engineer on the planet. 250 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:23.639 So thank you very much. So the vision is the 251 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:27.320 question is did you buy X Did you do my Twitter? 252 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:28.519 Because of the data? 253 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:30.279 Is that? Did you have all this in your head 254 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:31.000 before you did it? 255 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.679 Not? Really, No, I just bought Twitter because I thought 256 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:38.679 it was having a negative effect on civilization and just 257 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:43.360 sort of pushing ideas that were anti civilizational. You know, 258 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.919 it's sort of having Short captured by the far left. 259 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:49.159 That's it's fair to say the radical left. I mean, 260 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:52.360 they wouldn'tn't regard themselves as such, but it was captured 261 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:57.600 by group of people whose vedical beliefs are those of 262 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.840 you know, deeply San Francisco book, which is about as 263 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.960 des get in America, that that that it wasn't a 264 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:08.440 good forum for debate because they suspended many people on 265 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:11.240 the right, including the president, as as a miracle is 266 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:14.759 sitting president, which is really unprecedented. 267 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:15.519 President. 268 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.159 I think we need to have a public square where 269 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:21.679 there's a true freedom of speech, and freedom speech is 270 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:25.720 freedom of speech is the bedrock of democracy. If there's 271 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:28.080 no freedom of speech, people kindot make an informed vote, 272 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:30.600 and if you can't make an yourform vote, you don't 273 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:34.480 have a real democracy. So that's the purpose of acquiring 274 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:36.679 twitters who try to bring it more to the center. 275 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:39.360 There's been no no left wing voices have been banned 276 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.919 or anything like that or suppressed. But what you're trying 277 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.320 to do is give equal weight to all parts of 278 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:49.679 the country so that they can be a public count 279 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:53.559 square where people can exchange ideas and hopefully not preserved violence. 280 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.440 I think that's that's fundamental. 281 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:59.600 To I think it's one of the It's like free 282 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.799 speech because the bedrock democracy is. It's why it's the 283 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.879 first Amendment. Is people came from countries where if they 284 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:09.120 could be killed or imprisoned what they said. And in fact, 285 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.639 this is happening all around the world, as even in 286 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:17.840 places like Writin. So that's anyway I didn't because I 287 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:21.799 felt like the civilizational risks had to be addressed. I mean, 288 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:25.600 if America is not strong, then what the businesses matter. 289 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:28.600 America is a central pillar that holds up a Western civilization, 290 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.399 and if that pillar falls, everything falls. 291 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:36.279 So you were one of the founders, the two founders of. 292 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:39.080 CHATCHBT and you know open AI and you had a 293 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:41.360 disagree and it was founded as a charity, and it 294 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.879 was your idea that you wanted to make sure, you know, 295 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.559 freedom of speech and all the things that you deem 296 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:50.559 important for good lives on our planet were followed safety. 297 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.240 The other founder, what he tried to do and did 298 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:57.200 was accomplished, is that he got control even though it 299 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.879 was your money, and he got control and you and 300 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.240 he said, you know, I would like you to stay, 301 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.320 and he said, I want to go. I don't want 302 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:08.039 to be a part of this, and uh. And he 303 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:11.039 offered you some ownership and you said I don't want it. 304 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:14.799 And so here you walk away from an ownership of 305 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:18.120 chat GBT. So you're obviously not doing all this stuff 306 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.279 for money. I mean you are, but I mean that's 307 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:23.080 not But I mean if you if you were only 308 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.360 about money, you would have never left something that's worth 309 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:31.120 five hundred billion dollars by itself. And so here you're 310 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:38.799 forming this new entity Grock to accomplish what you wanted 311 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:40.559 Chat GIBT to accomplish. 312 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:42.759 But you think that we have an advantage. 313 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:45.399 In this because of the data, because of the compute, 314 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:47.919 because of what and what are you going to do 315 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:48.440 with this? 316 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:49.000 Ultimately? 317 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:52.159 If you talk about connecting physical worlds and digital what 318 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:52.799 does that mean? 319 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.960 Yeah, Well, just going back to opening a for a second, 320 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:59.120 the reason I found it Opening Eye was because I 321 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:02.159 was concerned so of my conversations with Larry Page, used 322 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.440 to be a close friend of mine, that he was 323 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:07.240 not sufficially concerned about the dangers of AIS really came 324 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:10.720 to a head when at my birthday party, he, in 325 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:12.679 front of a large group of people, called me a 326 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:15.519 species for favoring. 327 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:21.799 Humanity over computers. I think that's problem. I was like, Larry, 328 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:23.279 what side are you on? 329 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:27.039 It sounds like you're on the side of the computers, 330 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.320 but you really need to be on team humanity here. 331 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.039 You know. After that, I was like, Okay, this is it. 332 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:34.840 We've got to have some counterbalance to Google, because Larry 333 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:36.480 doesn't seem to care if humans to make it or not. 334 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.159 So I thought, what's the opposite of Google. It would 335 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.639 be an open source nonprofit. And that's where the word 336 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:45.399 open in opening eye comes from. It it means open source. 337 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.320 And and then I provided. I provided all the money 338 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:53.200 beginning like what are the series APC rounds, and recruited 339 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.159 the key people like Elisi's guy, and put them everything 340 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:57.919 out of I actually even got them to deal with 341 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:01.240 Microsoft with with such actially got I got such to 342 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:04.200 donate some time from Azure and for all that, I 343 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:09.039 did not seek any financial reward back whatsoever. And the 344 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.519 reason I actually took down the offer for shares is 345 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.400 because I mean I felt like what shares and why? 346 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.799 Like nonprofits supposed to have shares these last time I checked, 347 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.160 not space nonprofits. They're not supposed to be big yourself 348 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.960 in richment. So that's why I tuned down the offer 349 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:27.039 of shares because it doesn't seem morally illegally defenseful with 350 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.799 with Xai, and we are startying late with Xai, and 351 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:34.680 ever only two and a half years before basically designing 352 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:35.240 from behind. 353 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:38.359 We al somewhat have been underdoing, but pretty good with. 354 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:41.000 Technology though I don't want to put myself in back here, 355 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:42.680 but I have pretty good with technology, and we are 356 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:45.319 advancing bester than any other way. And I think the 357 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.880 for technology adventures, the winner ultimately is the one that 358 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:50.200 is able to move the fastest. 359 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:54.400 So we're optimizing for the best technology, and we're doing 360 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:57.799 something different than others, others in a digital world and 361 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:02.319 we're physical through digital with move meant and visual and 362 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:03.920 other people can't match that. 363 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:06.039 And also we have the real time data. What does 364 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.759 that mean? Why should we do better than everyone else? 365 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:09.599 Why are we going to win? 366 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:11.880 Why are we going to at least be different than 367 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.680 everyone else? So we have a really strong business. 368 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:16.920 Well for sure, I think it doesn't make a strong business. 369 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:21.160 Actually, not too worried about that because even a small 370 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:23.599 player that is successful in AI will be worth a 371 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.839 lot because they will cut to result and productivity to 372 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:26.400 the economy. 373 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:27.960 So it's actually pretty easy to. 374 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:32.720 Achieve a got pretty easy, But I mean it's not 375 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.200 There will be many companies that are worth sustainably, some 376 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:37.920 one hundred billion dollars sustainably. 377 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:40.640 Then several question of like well how do we achieve 378 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:44.799 the lead? That comes down to three things. Are you 379 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:45.160 able to. 380 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.680 Attract the best talent? Are you able to bring the 381 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:50.519 most amount of AI hardware online? Can you can you 382 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:54.480 bring GPUs online faster than anyone else? And we've already 383 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:57.400 demonstrated that we can do that. Jensen Monk himself said 384 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.119 that he was blown away by half past exciting to 385 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:00.759 Stata Center. 386 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:03.359 Jensen said, there's only one human on the planet who 387 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:04.079 could have done that. 388 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:07.720 That's you. Yes, it made us think about are you 389 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:08.640 really human? 390 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:13.240 I keep talking about I'm an alien, but nobody believes me. 391 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:16.400 I mean when I got my green clod and said 392 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:19.000 alien registration part So I mean, you know I have 393 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:21.000 I grow from the government. 394 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:25.599 Actually, I've got some relatively. 395 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:30.680 Rare skills these days in America, getting hardware. 396 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.759 I mean, if you look at the biggest successes. 397 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.160 In manufacturing in America since World War Two, by far 398 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:37.759 our Tesla in spaces. 399 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:41.359 So so to stay Sam Grock for another minute. So 400 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:46.680 the idea of connecting physical and digital is that that's 401 00:19:46.759 --> 00:19:50.920