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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty KFI.

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<v Speaker 2>AM A six forty bill Handle here Monday morning, January sixth.

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<v Speaker 3>We start the year, and we're starting it on a roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Incredible bad taste, scatological references, certainly sexual references that are

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<v Speaker 2>just very close to the line, right, Neil.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't listen to the show, sir, Okay, thank you

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<v Speaker 4>very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to separate myself as much as possible, even

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<v Speaker 1>though one of those references might have come from my mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>Fair enough, step back, Oh, separate myself?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? Done, all right? And another segment.

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<v Speaker 2>We made some changes, as you are aware of on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, especially starting this year. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we have tried for a few weeks and now

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we know that Neil is on from eight to

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<v Speaker 2>eight thirty on Friday with Foody Friday. We have added

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<v Speaker 2>from a thirty to nine ask Handle Anything, because well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk a little bit about other changes,

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<v Speaker 2>but because it's fun and the segment is ask handle Anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and you ask me, and you know, I'm brutally honest

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, and I've gotten embarrassed a few times,

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<v Speaker 2>and here's what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>You call in and we record your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you go to the iHeart app doesn't cost the

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<v Speaker 2>KFI page, so you have to do it during the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And up in the right hand corner you'll see a microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>Just click on that microphone and start recording. Fifteen seconds

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<v Speaker 2>is what you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond that, we cut you off because it's just a question.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear what you think politically. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't give a rats about any of that. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a question and I will answer it. And how do

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<v Speaker 2>I what questions? I have no idea, Neil and and

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<v Speaker 2>choose the questions I have not heard them, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it is my immediate response.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is great fun. So go to the iHeart.

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<v Speaker 2>App, KFI page, microphone right hand corner, click ask the question,

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<v Speaker 2>and if your call is good enough or stupid enough,

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<v Speaker 2>and it gets chosen, we I get to answer your question.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, for everybody who we do ask aloud,

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<v Speaker 2>to ask the question, you will win absolutely nothing. There

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<v Speaker 2>is no upside other than embarrassing me or asking me

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you'd like to know. All right, now, here's the

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<v Speaker 2>California lawmakers are proposing protecting K twelve K to twelve

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<v Speaker 2>students they're families from mass deportation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's symbolic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a response to what President upcoming President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>President Electrump has said with the mass deportations, the massy

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<v Speaker 2>deportation are not going to happen as we know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be more certainly.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got AB.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty nine at SB forty eight. It's to keep federal

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<v Speaker 2>agents from detaining undocumented students or their families on or

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<v Speaker 2>near school property without a warrant. Now, when's the last

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<v Speaker 2>time a federal agent came onto school property to arrest.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone a student who is illegal? Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is simply a response, and you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see more and more of this. Kevin Johnson, a law

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<v Speaker 2>professor at UC Davis, says, in no way can these

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<v Speaker 2>bills override federal law. But it's responding to concern in

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<v Speaker 2>the community that it's not safe to take your kids

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<v Speaker 2>to school. See what ends up happening is you have

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<v Speaker 2>the undocumented community that frankly runs scared a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>being deported. More so it's going to be more so

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<v Speaker 2>now that President elect Trump is going to take office.

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<v Speaker 3>On January twentieth.

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<v Speaker 2>So AB forty nine would require immigration agents to obtain

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<v Speaker 2>written permission from the superintendent before coming onto school property,

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<v Speaker 2>which they don't anyway, it bars agents from being in

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<v Speaker 2>rooms where children are present. When's the last time an

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<v Speaker 2>agent walked into a schoolroom, a kindergarten class and slammed

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<v Speaker 2>handcuffs on a six year old because illegal? By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's no way to know that those kids are illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court, and we're going back to I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was what nineteen eighty two where the Supreme Court ruled

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<v Speaker 2>that public schools have to enroll all students regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>immigration status.

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<v Speaker 3>And they don't ask even so, what changes?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, nothing, really, I'll tell you what the what the

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<v Speaker 2>big issue really is, and that is law enforcement and

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<v Speaker 2>or particularly prisoners in jails informing ICE that someone is

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe an illegal alien.

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<v Speaker 2>And it used to be right at the front door

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<v Speaker 2>person was released, Ice was waiting right there pick them

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<v Speaker 2>up and set them up for deportation.

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<v Speaker 3>Now no cooperation whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically, the prisons and public institutions do not tell authorities.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to be fair, those people are arguing, oh, they

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<v Speaker 2>tell authorities, so they can't tell authorities and bad guys

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<v Speaker 2>are being released. Serious felons are still being reported, and

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<v Speaker 2>ICE does come in for serious felons. But the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of it, it's basically a philosophy that we that is,

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<v Speaker 2>we California do not help federal authorities with deportation or

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<v Speaker 2>picking up what is people that are perceiving to be

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<v Speaker 2>and may in fact be and are probably illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a fight the California has and the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is is I believe California, the schools, the legislature absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>believe the phrase, the statement there is no such thing

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<v Speaker 2>as an illegal person. People are not illegal, actually they are, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just to let you know, there are plenty of people

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<v Speaker 2>that are illegal, because look at the definition of.

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<v Speaker 3>Illegal being in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>Without permission, without the right to be in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>That's illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're saying they're illegally here, but a person

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<v Speaker 1>to put that on them as being illegal is more

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<v Speaker 1>of a pejorative about the individual rut than.

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<v Speaker 3>So Therefore, fell in are not felons. They are merely

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<v Speaker 3>convicted of a felony.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can't call felons felons. I, for example, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I are not bald. We are simply follicularly challenged. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bald, okay, so am I And if I were here,

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<v Speaker 2>if I were here illegally, I would be illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not a question of just phraseology.

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<v Speaker 2>It's beyond that, and it is a question of substance

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to dealing with people and saying that

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<v Speaker 2>the status of someone is more important than the law.

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<v Speaker 2>The law is subservient to someone being here illegally, the

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<v Speaker 2>law really doesn't matter. And we have laws now that,

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<v Speaker 2>for example Los Angeles where the city the school districts

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<v Speaker 2>pay for a term and legal help for people who

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<v Speaker 2>are for kids who are illegal, or they're have family

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<v Speaker 2>members who are illegal and are looking at deportation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a question of how you view it.

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<v Speaker 2>And as usual, the pendulum swings both ways, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see the pendulum swinging right back with President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in office. And a lot of it is bluster

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<v Speaker 2>from the president because that's simply the way Donald Trump runs.

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<v Speaker 2>He believes in bluster, he believes in making statements as

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<v Speaker 2>bargaining chips. Nothing is really going to change, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is simply a philosophical statement. California says, well, basically, the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom line is whatever he says, we're going to go against.

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<v Speaker 3>And he his statement is whatever they say.

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<v Speaker 2>That is California and New York liberal states, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to go against by definition.

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<v Speaker 4>Well aren't they both blustering at that point? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it's a well it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a blustery day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a blustery four years now. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Flying, but I don't know if you've noticed, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>have noticed that the airlines are going seriously premium, cheap tickets,

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<v Speaker 2>frontier spirit uh ah, They're all adding premium items, premium services.

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<v Speaker 2>And why because we know that the airlines make more money.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember it used to be that you got

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<v Speaker 2>two bags for free across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be on Southwest you could sit wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you want. It used to be you could sit in

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<v Speaker 2>an emergency seed. All you had to do was book.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't cost you any more money. Well, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>those days are gone. Now they charge for everything. At

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<v Speaker 2>Southwest is still the only airline that you still get

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<v Speaker 2>too bad for free.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's going to end.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to end, because every other airline charges for bags.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you talk about the super cheap airlines, super

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<v Speaker 2>bargain airlines, you pay for everything. You even pay for

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<v Speaker 2>carry on bags, you pay for where you sit, you

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<v Speaker 2>pay for how.

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<v Speaker 3>Quickly you board the airplane. You just pay, pay pay

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<v Speaker 3>junk fees on.

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<v Speaker 2>The airlines charge buckets of money on those super cheap flights,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not cheap in the end. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>the airlines aren't making enough money with that crap.

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<v Speaker 3>So now it's premium seating.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean Jet Blue, which was all one class

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<v Speaker 2>is now they have a first class section.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna see Southwest.

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<v Speaker 2>You pay for where you stand in line to board

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<v Speaker 2>the airplane. Spirit which was one of the cheaper airlines,

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<v Speaker 2>file for Chapter eleven in November. American Delta, United the

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<v Speaker 2>three largest. They're projected to account for ninety seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the industri's operating profit. Why is that Because American,

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<v Speaker 2>Delta and United have premium services, they have first class,

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<v Speaker 2>they have the premium economy class economy plus. Budget airlines

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<v Speaker 2>don't have it, and those budget seats and they're getting

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<v Speaker 2>more and more crammed. The airlines aren't making enough money.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact, they're losing money, Neil, you r mic

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I was doing something, sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so that's because most of the people that ride

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit are also filing for Chapter eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good point, the first thing. But the second thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how they can make tons of money on

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit charge five hundred dollars a foot any for taking

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<v Speaker 1>your shoes off. Oh, very good, And that's a they

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<v Speaker 1>will make so much money, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a reason, by the way, for all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is, well, there are a couple reasons. First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, there's too many of these super bargain airlines.

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<v Speaker 2>They're competing against each other in a big, big way.

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<v Speaker 2>The other reason is they pay the same for labor,

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<v Speaker 2>for fuel, for landing rights. And it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 2>you have all first class and you go up to

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<v Speaker 2>a terminal at lax or all economy where you're crammed

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<v Speaker 2>in like sardines.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same cost.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the airlines, if you have plenty of premium seating,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have plenty of business class, if you have

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of economy plus, you're simply going to do better.

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<v Speaker 2>Where there's an interesting stat here we go, so far

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<v Speaker 2>this year, fifty seven percent of Delta's revenue has been

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<v Speaker 2>generated through sales other than main cabin sales, other than

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<v Speaker 2>the main seats. Over half is the premium seating. That's

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<v Speaker 2>where they make all of their money. You go to Delta,

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<v Speaker 2>and Delta has eight flights a day LA New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Two of them have the cheapest seating still available. It's

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of my disposable income I spend

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a whole different world, just.

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<v Speaker 2>More expensive to fly and you need whatever services, and

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're done, guys with this on. Hey, it

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<v Speaker 2>case with Wayne? And Wayne is retiring from the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and Wayne, let's spend a few minutes before we get

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<v Speaker 2>into case talking into the case. Do they have a case?

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<v Speaker 2>You've been with the show for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>How long you've been with.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, well with the station thirty three years on air

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<v Speaker 5>and capacity thirty and I don't remember. If you can

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<v Speaker 5>remember when this happened, either of you, then I can

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<v Speaker 5>tell you how long I've had a connection to.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bill Handle show.

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<v Speaker 5>You used to do every year live shows, a live

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<v Speaker 5>variety kind of show with songs and comedy and all

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<v Speaker 5>this stuff. And one of the earliest ones used to

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not as vegacy as you. What's the real one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we did it at the Rio's the other one,

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's talking about the Mirage.

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<v Speaker 5>Wherever it was. Somebody asked me, Hey, do you play keyboards?

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<v Speaker 5>I said yeah, and I said, oh, well come to

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<v Speaker 5>to Mandala Bay, Mandala Bay. Yes, Bill is correct. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, all right, great And then so anyway, what

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<v Speaker 5>sing this song called Remembering Lacey, which was about Lacy Peterson,

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<v Speaker 5>who was murdered for all intention purposes by her husband,

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<v Speaker 5>Scott Peterson, although he still denies it that a real

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<v Speaker 5>person had written it and performed it. It's terrorist, It's

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<v Speaker 5>the worst song in the world, and you guys made

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<v Speaker 5>me play and sing it, and then some of you

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<v Speaker 5>first whenever that was I don't it was kind of

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<v Speaker 5>ten years ago for those people that are recent listeners

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<v Speaker 5>to the show. Although we're moving back into some of

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<v Speaker 5>the crazy stuff because political correctness is taking not as

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<v Speaker 5>an important role in life. This show used to be

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<v Speaker 5>so offensive, so astoundingly offensive. For example, we used to

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<v Speaker 5>do songs, remember the songs, the parody songs we used

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<v Speaker 5>to do. One of them I remember was Welfare Queen

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<v Speaker 5>and you cannot talk about poor people on welfare.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that is so offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were parody songs we used to do. And so

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<v Speaker 2>Wayne was part of that group. And we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>miss you. So let's do this. We're gonna finish up

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<v Speaker 2>the first segment in the moment, and then we're actually

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do the last.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they have a case? So Wayne, what are your plans?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not one hundred percent sure yet. You and I

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<v Speaker 5>spoke off the air. You were very nice to call me,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, you know that I'm looking at some

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<v Speaker 5>possibilities kind of going back to doing what I was

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<v Speaker 5>doing with the FEDS, but doing it on behalf of

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<v Speaker 5>defendants private, private, private investigation, analysis, sentencing recommendation function. But

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<v Speaker 5>also there's a very small low power FM community all

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<v Speaker 5>volunteer radio station in Richmond, Virginia, where I will be living,

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<v Speaker 5>and I may just help them with the stuff that

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of a radio station doesn't really want to

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<v Speaker 5>deal with, like FCC compliance.

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<v Speaker 3>So not on the end, No, No, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the It's kind of like a college station.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a guy who for two hours plays world music,

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<v Speaker 5>two people talk about the mayor or that they don't

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<v Speaker 5>like or whatever it is. I'm not interested in any

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<v Speaker 5>of that, but to help them behind the scenes with

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<v Speaker 5>the FCC stuff, apparently, I'm being told, would be very helpful.

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<v Speaker 5>And also honestly, there's a lot of bike trails that

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<v Speaker 2>I have made fun of Wayne and his bike riding,

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<v Speaker 2>and Wayne is a very serious, serious bike rider, to

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<v Speaker 2>the point where in Wayne's case, here are your choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Either you buy a new car or you buy one

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<v Speaker 2>of his bikes. And he's got two of them. I

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<v Speaker 3>First all, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't know bikes could be I didn't know bikes could

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<v Speaker 5>It would be a used car or one of my bikes,

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<v Speaker 5>not a new car. And just I will say this

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<v Speaker 5>to you, I just got up with great pleasure. I

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<v Speaker 5>get to say this to you. Now I have three Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>So how about a grass bike or a clay bike.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't play on both, court, don't give me ideas. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>next time I talk to you, I might have six bikes.

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<v Speaker 3>So Wayne, let's do our last. Do they have a case?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 5>You will have to decide what happened in an employment

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<v Speaker 5>dispute between the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America

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<v Speaker 5>Knachham Rabinowitz, as well as Dose one through one hundred,

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<v Speaker 3>Or do you as not the messaiak? Do I have that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what a machiach is maskach, I know

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<v Speaker 5>That is a person who oversees the production of food

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I know that they do that. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, you knew there were people who oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They all have to be certified.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a scam beyond a scam because there are different

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<v Speaker 5>I should have known my last segment on this show

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<v Speaker 5>with you, I would have to inch away from the

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<v Speaker 5>microphone from something that you would say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a mafia. It's mafia is what you're hiring? Alright?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, okay, yeah, mister Markel was a mash killach for ou.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the short for the Union of Orthodox Jewish congregations

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<v Speaker 5>grew sour when he says he was promised by Rabbi

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<v Speaker 5>Nachmann Rabbi Rabinowitz a promotion and a race which never came.

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<v Speaker 5>So and also that he said he worked some overtime

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<v Speaker 5>and he filed some employment related claims against oh you,

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<v Speaker 5>and ou went to court and said you must dismiss

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<v Speaker 5>these outright because of the ministerial ex The ministerial exception

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<v Speaker 5>was found by courts over the years and is now

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely enshrined. It's under the First Amendment because it protects

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<v Speaker 5>the religious organizations from being sued for their decisions regarding

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<v Speaker 5>who they employ. But is only if you are a

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<v Speaker 5>cannot sue you, no matter what minister. Of course, has

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<v Speaker 5>to the religious mission of the religious organization. So an

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<v Speaker 5>example I will give you where it has been found

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<v Speaker 5>and now they teach in religious schools, and there are

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<v Speaker 5>of the school and they can't sue for employment stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So this got Markel says, I'm not a minister. I

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<v Speaker 5>look at wine and beef and things, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>make sure that they're prepared properly so they can be certain.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not a minister in any way. And the OHU

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<v Speaker 5>group is not a religious group because they they make revenue.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes money their program of certifying things as kosher,

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<v Speaker 5>so you I can totally sue them. And the district

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<v Speaker 5>judge said, no, they're a religious organization, notwithstanding they generate

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<v Speaker 5>charity that nobody keeps the money. The money that's generated

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<v Speaker 5>is a for no private benefit. And you are a

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<v Speaker 5>minister for this purpose because you are a very religious

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<v Speaker 5>person yourself, who does this to help them in their

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<v Speaker 5>so they can practice their religion. Your vital, that role

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<v Speaker 5>is vital to furthering the religious aims of this organization.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a religious based organization meant to support a

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<v Speaker 5>Court of Appeals because this case is right out of

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<v Speaker 3>Here, whoa boy? Both arguments.

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<v Speaker 5>Are they a religious organization? Is he a minister for

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if they per se or a

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<v Speaker 3>Code, that you have to have the proper rules and.

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<v Speaker 2>Regulations, and that's what the kosher What this organization does

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<v Speaker 3>Now, is it religious?

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<v Speaker 2>It's mandatory under the Torah that you eat kosher, So

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<v Speaker 2>is that religious?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to argue that the connection is Wow, it

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to argue because of that, it really is

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<v Speaker 2>an administrative job and doesn't have religious overtones except that

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<v Speaker 2>the Talmud says you must eat that way, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that ensure that.

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<v Speaker 3>The law is upheld.

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<v Speaker 2>And the problem that I think that this organization has,

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<v Speaker 2>because I told you earlier, it's simply a question if

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<v Speaker 2>you pay these guys, that's what is about. And they

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<v Speaker 2>were nailed for declaring some ham and some lobster kosher

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<v Speaker 2>and they got caught.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell, did you just say, what?

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<v Speaker 5>What is anything that you that's hyperbolic. That's hyperbolic, comedy

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<v Speaker 5>and satire, not an assertion of facts.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an assertion of fact. Okay, Okay, well let them

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<v Speaker 3>sue me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let them sue me while I eat a ham sandwich

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<v Speaker 2>on a bagel. And I've said some pretty interesting things

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<v Speaker 2>about this organization, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it. By the way, whether it's two or not,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any facts to determine one way or

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<v Speaker 2>the other, other than I met someone who owns a

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant that tried to get a kosher certification and it

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<v Speaker 2>was crazy the amount.

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<v Speaker 3>Of money that was being charged by the organization.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, which way do they go? H he has no case.

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<v Speaker 5>They are and he is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. And and and what they.

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<v Speaker 5>Said is, look, this ministerial exception has to be viewed

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<v Speaker 5>broadly because the point of thing is to not to

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<v Speaker 5>interfere with religious organizations decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>So he is a minister for this purpose only.

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<v Speaker 5>He is a minister, and they are a religious organization.

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<v Speaker 3>And he could have.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone, I would have gone, I would have gone the

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<v Speaker 2>other way because I think both have great arguments.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're done, Wayne, Thank you for twenty something years of

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<v Speaker 2>being with us. I know this was your last day

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to miss you. Do I have that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to miss you, and now that you

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<v Speaker 2>are gone, my friend, we'll probably never talk again.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, coming out? Hey, it's done, You're finished, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>That is oh mad, I've been.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been required in order to get my final paycheck

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<v Speaker 5>to say you are a consummate professional and truly deserved

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<v Speaker 5>to be inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>I thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, We're done, guys, coming up, Gary and Shannon

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<v Speaker 2>back again tomorrow with more of the Shenanigans. Oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so stupid. This is KFI AM six forty more

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<v Speaker 2>stimulating talk radio. You've been listening to the Bill Handle

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<v Speaker 2>Show Catch My Show Monday through Friday six am to

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