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Speaker 1: It is time for the Big Twelve at sixte breakdown time.

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We're going the count preaching here with you for the

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comprehensive look at both the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 2: And the Southeast Conference. We begin each and every week

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with our hot takes.

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Speaker 1: Last week time, I had a hot take on the

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Big Twelve that the league was better than what people

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gave it credit for.

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Speaker 2: And then I think multiple teams from the Big Twelve

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can make the playoffs. This week, I'll go to the.

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Speaker 1: SEC with my hot take talking about the conference as

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a whole.

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Speaker 2: Here and I had this discussion with Bo the other day.

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Speaker 1: We're talking over texts, and from what I've seen is

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there is not one elite team in this conference. Hear

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me out for a second, folks, before you bite my

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ass over this pause, look at the landscape. Okay, Georgia,

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they lose to Bama this past week at home. Bama

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had lost to Florida State, Texas has lost to Ohio State,

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LSU lost to ole Miss. I don't think ole Miss

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is that great. Oh You's undefeated and job and tears out.

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Vandy is undefeated, Mississippi State is undefeated.

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Speaker 2: It's anyone's guess who's gonna win this conference.

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Speaker 1: And you have another number of teams that I think

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can still win the national championship out of this conference.

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But there's not a clear favorite right now. There's not

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one team that stands out among the rest. That doesn't

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mean that everyone's bad. It just means everybody's good but

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not great. And that is going to set up a

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mess when we talk about tie breakers of trying to

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determine who goes to Atlanta for the SEC championship game and.

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Speaker 2: Who's going to end up in the College Football Playoff

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and all.

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Speaker 1: And with that said, I think that's a fair thing

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to say. I think this is still the best conference

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in the country. It's the deepest conference in the country.

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What I would say, what when you compare the Big

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much better at the top. They are top heavy with

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Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois. You know

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it's top heavy, but their depth really sucks. Okay, Purdue's

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a bad football team, Northwestern's a bad football team. The

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SEC maybe they don't have the teams at the top

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like the Big Ten does, but I look at the

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bottom of the league.

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Speaker 2: Arkansas is probably the worst team in the conference.

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Speaker 1: Arkansas would run rainbows around Northwestern and Purdue, Kentucky, Mississippi State,

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these bottom feeders, they're a whole lot better than what

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we're talking about. Are these bottom teams in the SEC,

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so in the Big Ten. So that's my take this week, Tom,

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I don't see one elite team. I think if you're

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a team like Oklahoma, for example, or Tennessee, that's probably

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good news for you. That makes playing field a little easier,

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even with the tough schedule week in week out, you

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know what you're expecting. There's not one dominant team that

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you're looking at like, oh shit, we got to play

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these guys. I think that it's it's it's a pretty

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equal playing field of sorts right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And I think OU's real first test.

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pretty good game, but I think their first real test

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is red River and then it gets a little bit

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harder from there. But there's no real team to me

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either that stands out on paper. Is just a powerhouse

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that we're going to come kick you in the teeth

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each week. And you know, we thought that maybe Bama

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at first was gonna be downhill, and we talked about

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Kaitlyn de Bores saying, oh, man, is he.

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Speaker 4: Cut out for this? Is he?

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Speaker 3: Can he show his face in Tescaloosa after you know,

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a rough start to the season a little bit, you know,

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against FSU, and and FSU looked really good and then

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they lost to Virginia. But then Bama comes out and

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lays the hammer down and beat Georgia. So there's not

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really anybody there's you know, there might be a Tier one,

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a Tier one B. It's just a you could just

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call it a Tier one. Yeah, there's no there's not

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Speaker 5: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you on that front.

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Where do you want to go this week? You missed

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out on my soil? Willoquy to Mike Gundy last week,

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he's he's yesterday's news now, So where do you want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna go to Oklahoma State. I do

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like what they've done.

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Speaker 3: I like what Meacham has done, and but we'll maybe

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talk about the next week.

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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 3: To this Vandy Alabama game this weekend, very intriguing. You

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got Diego PV saying that you know, if we go

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out there and play our game, it won't be close.

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I like the confidence, I really do, and I like

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what Vandy's been able to do. But I think with Alabama,

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I think this is a defining moment. They're not going

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to let that happen again. My hot take this week,

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Speaker 4: Pull it up. I think Alabama covers, and I think

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Speaker 2: Alabama's ten and a half point favorites at home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, give me Alabama by at least seventeen. That's what

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like Vanderbilt. I like the story. I'm rooting

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for Vanderbilt. I just think Alabama's going to come out

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and be like, we're not letting that shit happen again.

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And it's definitely not going to happen at in Tuscaloosa.

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That's not going to happen. Brian Dennis Stadium is not

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going to let that happen.

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Speaker 1: All Right, We'll see how that plays out. Let's let's

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talk about some headlines. Let's begin in Arkansas. Sam Pittman

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fired Tom I think everybody's on the same page when

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it comes to Sam.

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Speaker 2: Pittman that he was well liked.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the most respected coaches in college football.

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be the head coach there. When they hired him, Arkansas

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was still dealing with a lot of buyout money that

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they owed other coaches. He wasn't really their first choice.

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to pitt State, grew up and grow Oklahoma. I think

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if I remember right.

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Speaker 2: Like that, that wasn't gonna work.

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Speaker 1: He was improvement from what they had previously with Chad Morris,

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Chandler's dad, who might be the worst.

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Speaker 2: Coach in their program history. But that's not really saying much.

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Speaker 1: But with that said, you know, you had their ad

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come out say this week, we didn't really give him

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the resources that he needed. But it's still not an excuse.

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resources in to that program, and we know that there's

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money in Northwest Arkansas with Walmart, Tyson Foods and all that,

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then there's a lot of potential.

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Speaker 2: To work with.

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Speaker 1: They have world class facilities Northwest Arkansas is beautiful, and

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then they're in the best conference of the country too.

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and then just because you have the nil money means

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that you got to take it another step up. Look

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at Texas Tech. Texas Tech is overspending to bring in players.

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I saw report that Texas Tech is having to spend

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like thirty to thirty five percent more on players than

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other schools would. They're having to pay them more to

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come to Texas Tech. If Arkansas is going to be

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a good threat, they're gonna have to do the same

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thing Texas Tech is doing in that sense, and maybe

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even more so having to live in Arkansas instead of

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staying in the state of Texas trying to get these

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Texas high school recruits.

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Speaker 2: So with that, like I.

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Speaker 1: Would say, Tom, you know, whoever takes this job, and

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this I think is a message for the fan base too.

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to nine games every year. If you can make the playoff,

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if you can be a national title contender, that's fantastic.

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is they look at who they've been, you know, going

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back to the days of Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson

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and Barry Switzer and all these big names they've run.

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Speaker 2: Through that program.

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Speaker 1: They want to be something, and I understand it, but

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there's a part of reality sets in kind of like

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what Nebraska's had to go through now, where hey, we

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just need to be competitive.

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Speaker 2: That needs to be the goal.

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Speaker 1: And I think if the next head coach can do that,

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Speaker 2: That a success.

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Speaker 1: With the Arkansas program, I think that's what they need

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to accomplish first, and then we could talk about, Okay,

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where can they go to be a title contender from there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you mentioned Walmart money, and I don't

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think the Waltons really give that much. If I recall

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spend some conflict between Arkansas and Walmart in recent years,

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and maybe they need to ask for forgiveness or something

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to try to ease that over. Well, And it's not

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like the Waltons don't even give to the athletics, because

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they give a lot to baseball, and the baseball team

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is usually you know, probably two to three out of

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four years going to go to Omaha. Yeah, they've been

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good since I've ever kept track of them, So the

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money it could be there. I don't know if you

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don't know, well, I was gonna say something, but i'll

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I don't know who's asked. You'd have to kiss, but

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I mean the PA, Yeah, put the lips to go

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on and get to kissing because it's there. But sure,

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I think you're right even with money. Now you mentioned

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Texas Tech spending that money. I would much rather play

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in Faetteville than in love Itck if I was, if

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it's pretty easy. But you know, if Texas Tech can

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do it and get the money, then why can't Arkansas.

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seven and nine games is what you kind of shoot for.

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Speaker 3: Maybe one of those years you end up like TCU

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and you get into the National Championship. You know, but

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you're not gonna be competing for a Natty every you know,

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in and out each year. But I think whoever takes

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this job, I think you have to put some realistic

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expectations on it. Yeah, the Sam Pittman thing, his nail

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in the coffin? Was that Notre Dame fake punt? That

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was just I know he could he should have just

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walked off the field after that. I don't know why

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they did that, but that was the nail in the coffin.

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And I'd like to know how many cold beers he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably a few. Bobby Patrino's back the disgraced for

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Arkansas head coach. You know, you look at Bobby Patrino

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an employee that he was having an affair with and

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the motorcycle crash that was embarrassing. That was one of

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the worst things that's happened to that athletic department of

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what they went through. And yet they're giving this guy

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another chance. And the reason why is because he won there.

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In my lifetime, he had the most successful season that

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that Sugar Bowl team that they had was the best

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team that we've seen in Arkansas in my lifetime. So

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that's why they're giving him this chance. And he's got

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exciting offenses. I mean, even after Arkansas and all that

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he coached. Lamar Jackson at Louisville. You know, Bobby, I

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think Tom getting this interim job. There's some old guard

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that want him to get this, and if he wins games,

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he's got a shot.

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Speaker 1: Mind Arkansas giving him this chance because of the history.

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scandal was how long ago, and he's been oc for

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a couple of years now without any problems that we

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with it now. Do I expect him to get that

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job long term? No, but he'll have a chance to

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prove himself here. If they can pull off some upsets,

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if he can get Taylor Green going, then he very

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well might be the man for the job. But I

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don't mind him getting this opportunity. Do you have a

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problem with Bob Patrino getting this chance?

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Speaker 4: I think he let him.

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Speaker 3: I think it would have been awesome if he would

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have showed up to the pressure in a neck brace.

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Speaker 4: That would have been great.

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Speaker 2: First home game he's got to roll out in a motorcycle.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think I think could get the fan

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base fired up a little bit. I mean, you know

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they're not going anywhere this season, so you might as

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well give them something to talk about.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think you give him a chance.

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Speaker 3: And you know you don't. I don't think you have

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to go and make a higher super right away. I

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think you gotta lay the groundwork of whoever's got to

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lay the plan, the foundation of you know, what do

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we want out of Arkansas football? And then because I

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don't know, I'm not in the room, but it feels

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like they kind of have no direction.

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Speaker 4: They don't know who they want to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they need to figure out hammer down who what

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what do they want their identity to be.

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Speaker 1: That coaching search is gonna be fascinating to follow, because

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I've seen it kind of all over the place.

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Speaker 2: It could go to Bobby.

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Speaker 1: He'll have a chance to earn Ittt. Lastly, is the

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big name I've heard the watch. He's an Arkansas guy.

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He's had a lot of success at s MU. But

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then you see what he's got rolling at SMU, and

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they got plenty of money there in Dallas and they're

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playing in the ACC, which is much easier living than

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the SEC. Does he really want to leave that right

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now to go home to Arkansas? But everybody's different about

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how they feel about coming home. It might be something

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where it's too good for him to.

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Speaker 2: Pass up potentially.

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Speaker 1: And then we've seen John Gruden's name pop up, you know, GJ.

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Speaker 2: Kenny's name has been one to mention.

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Speaker 1: John Summeroll at Tulane has been another one that I

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really like for that job. And I think John Somerol's

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probably going to be on the minds of some of

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these SEC jobs coming up in the future. And then

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I think there's an outside chance of Mike Gundy. But

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you know, Mike Gundy had some of the problems that

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Sam Pittman did the last couple of seasons.

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Speaker 2: I think he would be a fit.

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Speaker 1: Culturally, but I think the game has passed by Gundy

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in a sense. I don't know if you're if you

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want to replace your fired coach with another coach that

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just got fired for not doing so hot the last

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couple of seasons. With that said, like I would say

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that lastly in Summer all we're probably the favorites, but

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we've seen some crazy stuff go down before with this

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Arkansas job. Like Tom nobody thought Brent Beelima was gonna

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be the head coach at Arkansas and leave what he

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had a good thing going to Arkansas and at A

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Wisconsin and they pulled that off.

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Speaker 2: So who knows what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be very interested.

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Speaker 3: I think it's one of the more entertaining coaching searches

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out there.

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Speaker 4: Obviously in my eyes are on in Oklahoma State. But

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when you just.

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Speaker 3: Look at and I think like Oklahoma State and their

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coaching search, I think they kind of know who they

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want and kind of we've seen that. And you look

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at Virginia Tech, they kind of have a groundwork of

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who they are. I think Arkansas, you find out who

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you are late. You know, you're right, you got all

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that down. This is what we want, this is what

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we want to be able to accomplish. Here's our assets,

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here's what we can do, and then match it to

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the coach. I think you got to get that lined

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out before you just go willy nilly higher and whoever

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the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: A couple more headlines here for you. Paul Finebaum, the

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SEC Network host. You see him on the Paul Finebaumb

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show SEC Nation. He told Klak Travis about kick this

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week that he is potentially interested in running for the

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US Senate in his home state of Alabama, and that

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he is looking to potentially replace Tommy Tubberville, the former

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Auburn head coach who is running for governor in that state,

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and Fine Bob has been the voice of the SEC

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for a long time.

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Speaker 2: He's seventy years old.

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Speaker 1: He says he was inspired by Charlie Kirk with the

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assassination on his life that occurred a few weeks ago.

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And he's considering this now and he seems pretty serious

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about it. He's already talking about the dates that the

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primary is and when a decision has to be made.

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Some people are saying, is he doing this as a

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negotiating tacket to.

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Speaker 2: Get a raise out of ESPN.

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Speaker 1: I think he's pretty serious and I think it's gonna happen.

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And honestly, I think with that type of name recognition,

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he's well liked. Alabama and Auburn fans both like Finebaum.

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He's more popular than Tuberville was. I wrote an article

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for the Last Roud in Sports this week. Tubberville won

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the Republican primary and the general election in that state

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with sixty percent of the vote in both races. If

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Fine Bomb runs, I think he's gonna be in the

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United States Senate and maybe the legend is gonna be

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his pr rep. Maybe we get Marty and McGee and

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Laura Rutledge involved or something here. I mean, this is

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bizarre and for ESPN that would leave quite the whole

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in the media space of what Paul Feinbaum is occupied here.

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see this coming, but the more I think

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about it seems like a realistic possibility here tom.

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Speaker 3: You know, with Tommy running for you know, go and

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I think I think Paul will jump in.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll win. I mean, it's the playbook's already there.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, I don't I don't know what the

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odds are on that if he does enter his name,

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and I would I would put money down that he

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would win it. Yeah, I'd be very shocked if he didn't.

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Speaker 4: He'd have to say some real off the wall stuff.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see him on the Senate floor.

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna take calls on c SPAN like he

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does in the Fine Bomb Show? I mean probably, There's

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there's a lot of possibilities here, and I don't know

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what the SEC network does. Maybe Marty Smith and Ryan

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McGee potentially take over, or maybe they bring in Josh

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paid or something from on three. But yeah, that would

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be quite the gap to fill if ESPN ends up

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losing Paul fine Bomb. But we'll certainly be followed it

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and see where things go from there.

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Speaker 2: One more headline.

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Speaker 1: John Mattier, the Oklahoma quarterback out this week against Kent State,

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but boots on the ground at Chipotle have discovered that

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the hand injury is okay. It reached the Texas aggs

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message boards and then we got a picture of the hand,

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and now the talk is that he could be playing

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against Texas. Texas an early favorite for next week's matchup,

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as is OU passed Texas in the polls and the

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Ape pole this past week as the number five team

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in the country. Here Tom kind of looking ahead of

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that matchup and a lot more time to talk about

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next week. I think Oklahoma is a better team than

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Texas right now, but we really just won't know until

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a John Mattier is out there and be what he

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looks like at this point. Does he have his full

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range of motion? Is he gonna throw the ball like normally?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 1: I don't think Oklahoma can win without John Mattier. I'm

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not trusting Michael Hawkins one bit. But if he's out there,

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can he overcome that and beat Texas?

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Speaker 2: I think that Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Call me crazy if you're talking about them. If your

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hope for Oklahoma was then being a playoff or national

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title or SEC contending team, I think you gotta you

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gotta beat Texas and then go through your gauntlet and

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your schedule from there. I think having John Mattier back

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next week has got to its got to be vital

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for this team, and not just back but play at

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a high level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't you know what is doctor Shin?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Uh, he's you know, world renown.

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Speaker 3: It seems like I've been someone enjoying the memes made

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of him. I think, if you're OEU, you need to

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keep everybody healthy this week. Don't go out and punch

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kins state in them out there trash team. Just get

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it done, be done with it, and then get everybody ready,

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get everybody help. If he going in to red River

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and you know, Arch Manning still young, my Tier a

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little bit more seasoned. You know, Arch, I guess has

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been a part of the red River but Tier never has.

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But I think if you're John Mattier, I think if

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you're this this could be a Heisman statement if he

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If he comes in and plays well and the injury

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doesn't affect him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be something to watch for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get to the Big twelve and

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SEC slate of games for this week. We'll go rapid

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fire through these contests real quick, starting on Friday night

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in the Big twelve, Town twenty three ranked BYU taking

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out of West Virginia BYU eighteen and a half point favorites.

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Speaker 2: West Virginia is a bad football.

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Speaker 1: Team BYU late night game at Lavelle Edwards Stadium.

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Speaker 2: I expect him to just run it up here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think it'll be close either.

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Speaker 1: I was taking on Cincinnati eleven AM on Saturday, Cincinnati

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with an upset win a KU last week, and Iowa

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State is gonna be without two of their starting corners

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and they're a one and a half point underdog going

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on the road here rock Obec. What we've seen from him,

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Tom is he's kind of carried that team with their

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deficiencies at wide receiver and trying to get that run

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game going and all that. I don't know if he

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can carry a defense on top of that. I like

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Iowa State here, but I expect this game to be close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's gonna be close too, and I

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think Rocco is gonna have to do a lot of

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carrying this game.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Granted, Kansas had no business losing last week, but credit Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: They got it done.

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Speaker 3: But I'll still take OURWA State here, but I wouldn't

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put money on it.

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Speaker 1: Case State taking on Baylor. Baylor six and a half

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point favorites. Sawyer Robertson's been fantastic seventeen touchdowns, three interceptions.

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K State looked pretty good in that road wind they

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had against UCF within the last couple of weeks. Here, Tom,

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I'm not buying that KSE State has necessarily turned a

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corner here.

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Speaker 2: I like Baylor at home. That offense is tough.

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Speaker 3: Stop you know what, Baylor, they played well against Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 5: That's nine.

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Speaker 4: That's not saying much.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that k State turned the corner either,

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but I do think I'm gonna take KSE State here.

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I've been burned, but all I'm ready to be hurt again.

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Speaker 1: OSU take it out of Arizona. Arizona twenty and a

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half point favorites. The Wildcats sitting at three and one.

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After a rough season last year, Brennan entered twenty twenty

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five on the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: No Fafida has.

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Speaker 1: Looked really good throwing the football, eight touchdowns, two picks.

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They're twenty and a half point favorites at home against

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Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: Doug Meacham not a bad first showing in that loss

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to Baylor. I don't know if you call that a

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moral victory.

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Speaker 1: They did fire their defense coordinator, Todd grant Ham, and

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my guy, Clint Bowen gets a shot to be the

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DC and stillwater happy for him to get that opportunity.

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I've been rotting on Clint Bowen, the former Kansas interim

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head coach and defensive coordinator. With that said, Tom, I

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don't think Arizona State or I don't think Arizona is

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winning by twenty and a half here, but I'd be

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very surprised if it's not a touchdown or more that

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they win this game by right.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I was all I was gonna say, is

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Oklahoma State covers?

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Speaker 1: There you go, Texas Tech taking out Houston Houston's four

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and ZHO squeaked by an overtime last week against Oregon

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State on the road, Morton a little banged up. He's

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expected to play though Houston Tom credit where credits do?

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Willie Fritz doing a really good job. They've improved from

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what they were a year ago. But Texas Tech way

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too much horsepower. I think they could run away with

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this one and get this on the road here at Houston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. Now, if Houston does win,

485
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watch out, but I like Tech here.

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Speaker 1: TCU take it on Colorado in primetime on Fox. TCU

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extra day off after that Friday night loss to Arizona

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State Hoover. He's played well, eleven touchdowns, four interceptions on

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the season. Looking to bounce back after that loss. Colorado's

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got some quarterback issues. They've gone back and forth tween

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Salter and a couple other guys. I think TCU kind

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of inserts their will here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too. I like tc in this

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one as well.

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Speaker 1: Big weekend for KU and Chiefs fans because you could

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double dip, and I've heard of folks doing this of

497
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going to the Kansas UCF game in Orlando and then

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Monday night go up to Jacksonville for the Chiefs Jags game.

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Doesn't that sound like a fever pitch? Weekend of sorts,

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KYU looking to bounce back. Take it on UCFKU four

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and a half point favorite.

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Speaker 2: Tom. I expect this game to.

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Speaker 1: Be somewhat close because KU's defense has a lot of

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problems right now. Jalen Daniels looks phenomenal, but that defense

505
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is struggling. Emmanuel Henderson looks like one of the best

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receivers in the country. He's been great, but until he

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get this defense going, I think UCF can keep this close.

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Speaker 2: I think four and a half feels about right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems I think I wouldn't bet on it,

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but that seems right on the money.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's head to the SEC now and go

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over to those slated games. Eleven am Kentucky taking on Georgia.

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Georgia at home, coming off the lost Tobama last week. Kentucky,

514
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I don't think is that great of a football team

515
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that did keep things close with the Ole miss a

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couple weeks ago. Georgia off the loss here, this is

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a bad place to be if you're Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I think Kentucky's about to get

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smacked around.

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Speaker 1: Texas taken on Florida Texas six and a half point

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favorites Arch Manning going on the road. I believe for

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the first time since he's been in the SEC, his

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first SEC road game.

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Speaker 2: Tom, Florida.

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Speaker 1: If if they lose this one by double digits, if

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it's not pretty this this could be it for Billy

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Dapier Here, I think Texas wins, and I expect this

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to be by ten or more.

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Speaker 2: I think this might be. This might finally be it

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for our sweet prints.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it might.

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Speaker 3: It might be, And I think from what I've seen

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from just fan comments, they wanted to be. I think

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you'll see or you'll find a lot of Florida fans

535
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rooting for Texas here.

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Speaker 2: And big Vandy taking on Alabama Vandy five and oh

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sixteenth in the country going on the road, Bamaton and

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that point favorites. Tom. You said earlier you like Bama

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big in this game.

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Speaker 1: I like the way Diego Pavilla is playing, but kind

541
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of like what we're talking about with Rockobeck at Iowa State,

542
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I don't think he can do enough. I think that

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you just look at the talent, like Alabama overmatches Vandy

544
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in almost every way except the quarterback position.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's right there.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think Simpson's that bad as not Diego,

547
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but I think they'll just be overmatched. And you know,

548
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if it was in Nashville, okay, maybe a little different.

549
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Brian Didns Stadium is going to be rocking. They know

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what happened last year. They don't want that to happen again.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's oh you taking on Kent State, No job,

552
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Mattier this week. We will see Michael Hawkins get the start.

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Oh you should win that decisively and then sneaky good

554
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game in prime time on Saturday night. Texas A and

555
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M taking on Mississippi State A and M six in

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the country. I think this line's too big at sixteen

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and a half. I like what I've seen from Jeff

558
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:53,119
Levy squad. There a Mississippi State, a lot of Maroon

559
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involved in this game. Marcel Reid playing very well at

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the quarterback position. I like Texas A and M, but

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as Earl friendly course that once said closer than the

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experts think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too, and the boy Mississippi State

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already beat Arizona State. I mean, I like A and

565
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M here, but it's gonna be a sneaky one.

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Speaker 1: More to come on the program. We're gonna be joined

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by TJ Reeves. Tune in Big twelve Radio with a

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look at this weekend's slate of games coming up on

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the other.

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Speaker 2: Side, Stay with us, join us now the program.

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Speaker 1: This week, I was going back over our list of

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guests of who's been on recently, and somehow it has

573
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been over a year since we've talked to TJ Reeves,

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and yet I spend time with this guy.

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Speaker 2: Every single week. I know it was long overdue that

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we bring him back on the program.

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Speaker 4: TJ.

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Speaker 5: Listen, It's great to be with you.

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Speaker 6: The official appearance on The Jones Report has not happened

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for a year. The unofficial conversations are up to about

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two hundred and seven. The other stuff that you and

582
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I do together, where we appear on each other stuff

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officially happens. But I I did not realize that I

584
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have been avoiding you for a year on the Jones Report.

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Speaker 5: I am negligent in that regard.

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Speaker 6: Great to be with you, and man, is there a

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ton to talk about in the college football world and more?

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, let's start in the Big Twelve Conference and TJ.

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What I've seen from this league in the first month

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of the season. I look at I see a very

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good Texas Tech team, a really good Iowa State team,

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and then everybody else after that. What do you think

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of how the league shape it up after this first month.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a pretty good assessment.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, Arizona State fan would say, hey, what about US

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beating Baylor at Baylor, beating TCU, etc. They lost a

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wild game to Mississippi State this conference. I think you

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can make the argument, just like a year ago, for

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about six teams, wouldn't you say right now that could

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probably win it? That includes obviously the top two Iowa

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State in Texas Tech. But can't you make an argument

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for Arizona State right now? Could you not make an

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argument for Brigham Young again at the end of the year,

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what about a TCU And there's and there's probably a

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couple other ones that that could get in the mix somehow.

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Someway Utah probably can come back around with Dan Peter

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at quarterback. This is a wide open thing for the

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horse race at the end. And remember, Arizona State basically

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played their way in the last four or five games

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of the season. They kept winning, got into the title game,

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and then won the title game.

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Speaker 5: But I would agree with you.

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Speaker 6: Right now, Iowa State and Texas Tech have distinguished themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and looking at Texas Tech first, Joey maguire had

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a lot of pressure on him with that roster that

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they bought, second richest in college football at twenty eight

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million dollars according to ON three heading into twenty twenty five.

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And now we're starting to see the fruits of their

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labor payoff that you could actually buy wins here in

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college football. This is this is quite the experiment that

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I think a lot of people around the country are

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keeping close tabs on outside of Lubbock too.

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Speaker 6: And again, they've spent ridiculous money on the nil. But

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they're not the only ones across the board. There are

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probably ten or twelve programs that went this route of

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give me six, seven to eight improvements in the transfer portal.

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And it's ridiculous. I'm a lot older than you. It's

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ridiculous that we're here, but we're here with We're gonna

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spend twelve, fourteen, sixteen million dollars and buy us some players. Legally,

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that's what's going on. That's what Texas Tech did, and

631
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it will be fascinating. I guess another one of the

632
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subplots here for this road game in Houston is Baron Morton,

633
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the quarterback has been injured with a concussion. He's apparently

634
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cleared the concussion protocol. It's Hammond, right, It's Will Hammond

635
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as the backup quarterback, and he played well in the

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remainder of the Utah game after Morton got hurt. He's

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also played earlier in the year as well. Might they

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00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440
use the dual quarterbacks in h Town at Houston on

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Saturday night.

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Speaker 5: I'm fascinated by that.

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Speaker 6: Plus you have what the defensive coordinator of Texas Tech

642
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is a former Houston player, and there's another coach I

643
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believe it's a former Houston player.

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Speaker 5: So you got some Texas Tech Houston Cougar.

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Speaker 6: Ties that are also a part of this old Southwest

646
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Conference opponents too in the sixties and the seventies and

647
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the eighties, way back when a lot a lot around

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this Texas Tech Houston game.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Iowa State taking on Houston, the other team we

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mentioned there. I know you've been a big fan of

651
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rock Obeck for a long time that you and his

652
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,599
dad go back away yep, And here they are five

653
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and oh start, They've played some close games. The offense

654
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has come along pretty nicely there, and you go on

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the road to Cincinnati, which I think is much better

656
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than any of us anticipated. I saw firsthand what they

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did to Kansas last week. They're sitting at three and one.

658
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Now Cincinnati's actually favored in this too. This is quite

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the track game here for Iowa State.

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Speaker 6: All right, So you're better to speak to this than me.

661
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But Sworsby has been tremendous, and you, as you just said,

662
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saw at first hand. He led the game winning touchdown

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drive in the final minute or two of that one.

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And that's impressive for Scott Saderfield's group because there had

665
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been some questions that, Okay, they lost the game the Nebraska.

666
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They then played Eddie George and Bowling Green. My god,

667
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we've lived long enough that the Heisman Trophy winner Eddie

668
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George is now a coach at Bowling Green.

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Speaker 5: He was at Tennessee State.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 6: So Cincinnati beat them, but they didn't put the game

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away until late.

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Speaker 5: They beat them by like two scores.

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Speaker 6: Then they destroyed an FCS program, Northwestern State out of Louisiana. Cincinnati,

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and then they took a week off, so what did

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we really have? Well, they showed something, by I mean,

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Jalen Daniels was amazing in the Kansas game, and Cincinnati

678
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still beat them at KU.

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Speaker 5: I know, I'm not telling anything you don't already know.

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Speaker 6: So that was impressive. Now they're back home. I just

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like Iowa State the moxiea Beck. They run the ball,

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they're opportunistic on defense. I'm actually taking Iowa State in

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the upset, the slight upset from the handicapping perspective here,

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I think they will get the win on the road.

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Speaker 5: I think they will remain unbeaten.

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Speaker 6: But that is a fascinating early noon matchup Cincinnati and

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Iowa State. It's one of these new games in the

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Big Twelve that we have to get used to, where

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you know, Cincinnati and Houston and UCF haven't been in

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this league Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State. So whenever whenever

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we're seeing these games, you know, involving Utah and Texas Tech,

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or UCF and Kansas State last week, or now Iowa

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State and Cincinnati, it's definitely different.

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Speaker 5: For sure.

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Speaker 2: The only Power Conference with teams at all four time

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zones and.

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Speaker 5: They are crazy.

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Speaker 6: It travels and they basically start playing games at eleven

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AM Central Time, and they're still playing games after midnight

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Central Time with the Western teams. So you get the

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thirteen or maybe even longer hour buffet a Big Twelve

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football throughout the day.

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Speaker 1: That's for sure on about five different TV networks too. Now, yes, well,

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on top of that, in whatever streaming services.

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Speaker 6: There is no confirmation that Rachel Ray and the Food

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Channel will have one of the Big Twelve games this week.

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Speaker 5: That's about all that does not have it at this point.

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Speaker 1: I did see that True TV is simulcasting Oklahoma State

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Arizona this week.

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Speaker 5: So if I had another network.

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Speaker 2: Or something to watch on True TV outside of marchin

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Madness for Sports, you have that option now too.

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Speaker 1: The other game that intrigues me, I know, it's kind

714
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of a you know, a boring week of sorts. I

715
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,760
guess of the Big Twelve Colorado and TCU. You mentioned

716
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,000
that TCU team. I like Hoover. It was a close

717
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:33,239
loss last week. They're at Arizona State game. They probably

718
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,760
feel like they should have won if a couple of

719
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,440
plays go a different direction than they could have gotten

720
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,400
that win. On the Road and Colorado. They've had their

721
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,880
own issues at the quarterback position. These two teams kind

722
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,280
of have some history. That was Deon Sanders' first game

723
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,599
in Colorado here. What do you think about the horn

724
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,360
Frogs and their chances there against the Buffaloes?

725
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,559
Speaker 6: And I keep saying this over and over and over

726
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:00,199
again when Colorado steps up in competition. Yes, they won

727
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a couple of games last year against.

728
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Speaker 5: Texas Tech I Lubbock.

729
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Speaker 6: They also beat Cincinnati last year, but a lot of

730
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their other wins were against the bottom, the bad teams

731
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of the Big Twelve. When they stepped up, they had trouble.

732
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:18,599
So here again on this schedule, a step up right

733
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:21,400
away with Georgia Tech at home. Georgia Tech beats them

734
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,440
in the final minute. They win the two games with

735
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:29,119
Delaware and helped me on the other one was North Dakota.

736
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,920
Not North Dakota, it was yeah, no, no, it was Wyoming.

737
00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:34,719
Wyoming was the other one. But now they stepped up

738
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,079
last week with Brigham Young. They led the game fourteen

739
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,800
to nothing. They went back to Caden Salter at quarterback.

740
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They obviously have some weapons, but Byu overtakes them defensively

741
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,639
two or three drives. Salter throws a couple of key

742
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,000
picks through elite late key pick in the game, and

743
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:55,920
you got Colorado now on the road having to step

744
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up with TCU. TCU angry off the loss. Give me

745
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,079
the frogs. Give me the frogs here at home with Hoover,

746
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,800
They've got skilled receivers as well a couple of transfers

747
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:09,360
as well. For him, I think TCU can be one

748
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,599
of the teams in Dallas for the Big Twelve title game.

749
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:13,679
I do not believe in Colorado.

750
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Speaker 5: Being there, so I like TCU in this matchup.

751
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Speaker 1: Our friend Tim Brando was broadcasting that Arizona State TCU

752
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game on Friday night, and he was a strong advocate

753
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,159
for the strength of this conference, of the team's competing

754
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and he was talking about this league potentially getting multiple

755
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,519
bids into the College Football Playoff. TJ, do you see

756
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:36,079
that as a possibility, And if so, who are the

757
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:37,519
teams that you see could be making that.

758
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 6: Push you're talking about out of the Big twelve? Yes,

759
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out of the Big twelve? So who is that other team?

760
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Is it Brigham Young? Is it again ASU?

761
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Speaker 5: Somebody like that? Right now? I thought it was interesting.

762
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Speaker 6: I got the chance to interview Jerry Palm, who does

763
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a tremendous job with all of the analytics, strength of schedule.

764
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:59,880
I know you had him on the Jones Report and

765
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,280
on your coverage earlier right before the season began. So

766
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Jerry has been doing the analytics, the strength of victory,

767
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:09,880
the strength of schedule, the power rankings thing for college

768
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,239
basketball and college football for over thirty years. Jerry said

769
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,599
to me right now, I've got Iowa State firmly in.

770
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:19,400
I've got Texas Tech firmly in. And he said, somebody

771
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out of BYU Arizona State, like we were talking about earlier,

772
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is certainly lurking. There could be three big twelves that

773
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do get it. Probably not. They will do well to

774
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have two teams at the very end with all of

775
00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:37,519
the attention around the SEC and the Big ten strength

776
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and taking up probably eight spots. They're going to take

777
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up eight spots. It seems like every year, maybe more.

778
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But I think the argument is there for the Big

779
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twelve to have a second team. I just don't know

780
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if it's a third team. If it is that third team,

781
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:54,119
give me like Asu Dellillingham's team with Sam levittt quarterback

782
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,840
Jordan Tyson's one of the best receivers in the country. Again,

783
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:02,119
they're another team that makes plays on defense. Arizona State

784
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,239
might be that third team that lurks for the college

785
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football playoff.

786
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Speaker 2: All right, let's stay in your neck of the woods.

787
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Speaker 1: You're in Tampa and there's some big college football goat

788
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,079
on this weekend. All eyes on what is going on

789
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,480
with the Florida Gators and Will Day here? Could this

790
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:19,519
be it for him? We've seen some big name coaches

791
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,519
fired the last couple of weeks, Mike Gundy, Sam Pittman.

792
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If they lose this game.

793
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Speaker 2: To Texas and don't.

794
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Speaker 1: Put up a good fight here, then are we looking

795
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,519
at Curtains for billion a pier? And does that become

796
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:33,639
the best job opening too?

797
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Speaker 6: There are plenty of Gator fans that would absolutely raise

798
00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:42,159
their hand and say yes, now, is that what Scott Strickland,

799
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the athletic director, is going to do? The man that

800
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:48,280
hired Napier, and Strickland has got some leeway here and

801
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,840
some credibility because he hired Todd Golden, the basketball coach,

802
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,159
and you and I were together as they won the

803
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,920
national title in San Antonio back in April. So it

804
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,400
doesn't hurt the ad when he picked a coach that

805
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:03,719
ends up winning a championship. What's hurting right now is

806
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,119
Napier lost games, lost critical games.

807
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:07,679
Speaker 5: Last year.

808
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,199
Speaker 6: The difference is he won a couple of big games

809
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:12,119
at the end of the season, including beating Florida State,

810
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,760
so that kept him around for the beginning of this year.

811
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:19,159
The offense has gone nowhere. Dj Lagway, the quarterback, seems

812
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:21,960
to have regressed. He's also been hurt. He's had a

813
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,079
bit of a foot injury. They come off a bye

814
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:27,920
week here, they come off of three losses in a row.

815
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 5: Tyler, if they lay the egg here.

816
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 6: If they're not good, if Texas comes in and were

817
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,320
to beat them decisively, I'm talking about seventeen points, twenty

818
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,280
one points or more, Strickland may not have a choice.

819
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,440
What I think he's hoping for is you at least

820
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,800
have a competitive showing even if you lose. The next

821
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,599
game is at Texas A and M for Florida. So

822
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:54,840
I mean, this is not going to get any easier

823
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,639
and not gonna get any better. And again, a lot

824
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,360
of the money people want Napier gone. He was the

825
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,519
coach at Luis the mocking nickname is sun Belt Billy.

826
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,119
That sun Belt Billy just doesn't have enough offensive innovation,

827
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,559
hasn't done enough with the talent pool that he has

828
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:15,360
a Texas whipping man. We might see another coach casualty

829
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,679
coming up here, because what are we up to with

830
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,119
Deshaun Foster being fired at UCLA, Brent Priye being fired

831
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,440
at Virginia Tech, Gundhi like you mentioned Pittman, you already got.

832
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,199
Speaker 5: Four Power five schools that have made.

833
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: A move, and Stanford's still looking for a head coach.

834
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,639
Speaker 5: Stamford's still looking right.

835
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 6: Frank Reich is the interim coach, but Florida might make

836
00:42:33,519 --> 00:42:36,840
number five here and soon where they just say we

837
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,400
can't defend this anymore, especially off the bye week.

838
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: Stay tuned.

839
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Also in your neck of the ones, big rivalry

840
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,679
game in Florida State and Miami in primetime on Saturday

841
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,639
night on ABC DJ A fantastic matchup. I think Miami

842
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,920
is a title contending team. Florida State looks much improved

843
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,719
from what they were a season ago. Even with the

844
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,039
law to Virginia last week in double overtime wasn't a

845
00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:03,719
bad loss.

846
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: I don't hold that against them too much. What do

847
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:06,960
you think about this matchup.

848
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,639
Speaker 6: Tremendous history behind this, going back to the eighties.

849
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:13,159
Speaker 5: I know I'm a little older than you.

850
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 6: The eighties of the nineties, this game was littered with

851
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,320
all Americans Heisman Trophy winners, you know, from Bernie Cozar playing,

852
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,320
Dion Sanders playing Michael Irvin. I mean, how about these

853
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,239
names that have been involved in this game. Charlie Ward,

854
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,920
Gino Torretta that won Heisman trophies, Guys like ray Lewis

855
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,960
that played in this game, the late Sean Taylor, Clinton Portis,

856
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:40,119
Jamis Winston, all of the names that have played in

857
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:43,880
this series. And so we talked about Florida and they

858
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,159
can't seem to find their way. Well, Florida State's off

859
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,199
a two to ten year last year, Tyler. They come

860
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:51,199
out of the blocks and they beat Alabama, and it

861
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,559
looks like right now, Alabama's good, if not really good,

862
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,800
and Florida State handled them in the opening game in Tallahassee.

863
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,239
So Mike Norvel made a lot of friends back. He

864
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,480
can make a lot more friends back with a win

865
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:06,639
over Miami. Now you mentioned Miami probably better on the

866
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:09,960
offensive line. In the defensive line, They've got an explosive

867
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:13,199
running back in Mark Fletcher that Florida State's going to

868
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,679
have to contend with Carson Beck the transfer from Georgia

869
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:23,719
is good, but Castellanos the transfer quarterback for FSU mobile

870
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,760
quarterback dual threat. This is going to be a wild game.

871
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,000
It would not surprise me if Florida State at home

872
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,960
wins the wild Saturday night game here and gets their

873
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,239
ACC season back on track. If they lose it, that's

874
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,159
two losses obviously for them, and it jeopardizes them for

875
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,360
the ACC title game already in the first week in October.

876
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,960
So there's a lot riding on this game Saturday night,

877
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:45,880
FSU Miami.

878
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait. We'll see how it all plays out,

879
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:49,880
all right, TJ.

880
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,559
Speaker 1: Before we go here, I had a run in this

881
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:57,239
week with some of Jason White's People of Comfort Solutions,

882
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,039
which if you're in this state of Oklahoma, you've seen

883
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:02,679
the bill boards and the ad. So Jason, why, I

884
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:04,400
think it's the only thing he's up to these days,

885
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:06,760
And you had a little quiz for me.

886
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 5: I guess so wait a minute.

887
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,159
Speaker 6: V Jason White, the former Oklahoma Heisman Trophy winning quarterback.

888
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,639
A lot of people don't realize he.

889
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 5: Won a Heisman Larry Fitzgerald.

890
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 6: Yes, he beat out Larry fit But then you said

891
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,599
back to me one of how many seven?

892
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 5: One of seven Oklahoma.

893
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,079
Speaker 6: Heisman Trophy winners. So we just talked about one of them.

894
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:34,679
That's Baker Mayfield, right, So Kyler, Sam Tyler, Kyler Murray.

895
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:38,320
There's another one. Sam Bradford is four? Whatt you coming

896
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,320
up with? Off the list?

897
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Billy Simms? Five?

898
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 6: Billy Simms, who just had a birthday. I want to say,

899
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,320
like last week.

900
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: He's got some little average barbecue at Oklahoma too.

901
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 5: He was electric.

902
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,199
Speaker 6: He was electric Billy Simms in the late seventies, right,

903
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:53,920
So that's five.

904
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: Toms Ritch is just checking in saying Jameel Holloway he

905
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,840
did not win a Heisman, actually.

906
00:45:58,559 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: Jabe Jameel Holloway.

907
00:45:59,760 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 4: No.

908
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,679
Speaker 6: Thomas Thomas Bridges is like backstage trying to give us hints.

909
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 5: Yes, who are the other two?

910
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: Steve Owens is six yees.

911
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,159
Speaker 6: Steve Owens was the option quarterback. Who's the other who's

912
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:13,360
the other one that we're leaving out? Somebody screaming it

913
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,800
out right now at the Jones Report podcast on who

914
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,719
the seventh one is?

915
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, I got it. This was well before you

916
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:21,880
at I's.

917
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,119
Speaker 5: Time, hillis y way way quiz me on should I

918
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:24,840
know this? Obviously?

919
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 6: Leroy Salmon's the original buccaneer from nineteen seventy six, the

920
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,000
great defensive lineman, the number one overall pick, but he

921
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:34,800
was not a Heisman Winner's fifty two god nineteen. This

922
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,360
is like the Bud Wilkinson teams with the leather helmets.

923
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,400
Is that what you're talking about? My God, Billy Vessels.

924
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,559
Billy Vessels, I would not have come up with on

925
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:48,559
my own. But it's an amazing cast of quarterbacks, Sam Bradford.

926
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: They all have statues in north and it's the only

927
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:54,519
stadium in the country with a Heisman Park.

928
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:58,079
Speaker 6: How about So you've got that whole group of Jason White,

929
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:01,280
Sam Bradford, Baker may feel Kyler Murray that we're all

930
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,280
around the same time.

931
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,599
Speaker 5: Yeah there, that's crazy.

932
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:05,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

933
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe John Materia's next.

934
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 6: So well, and I saw I saw something. He's still

935
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,639
out with the injury, right, he.

936
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: Will not play against Kent State, but they're hopeful he

937
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,239
plays against Texas next week.

938
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 6: All right, So the Texas game is the next coming

939
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:21,880
out party, uh for him? And so stay tuned. Is

940
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,840
that another Oklahoma? He'd be great, great nostalgic, great trivia

941
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,039
on that anything else, my friend?

942
00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 5: Or are we good?

943
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:28,199
Speaker 4: Uh?

944
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: Plug away? You have so much going on this weekend.

945
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 5: Too much, too much.

946
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 6: So Three Dog Thursday, the podcast and the show, the

947
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,800
video show is out on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Like as an underdog, this one.

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Speaker 6: I love Iowa State. I took them on three Dog Thursday.

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You and I hand to hand in hand going off

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the cliff together with a rock O Beck and the Cyclones.

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So the three Dog Thursday show and podcast is out

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right now. Wherever you get podcasts, go to the video

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Three Dog Thursday, search it up on YouTube. And also

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Big twelve Game Day on tune in. The three hour

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aud preview show on Big twelve Radio on tune In.

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Speaker 5: Tune In is the.

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Speaker 6: Exclusive digital home of the Big twelve Audio. We look

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forward to everything every week with previewing the games from

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nine am to noon Eastern eight to eleven am Central

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Time leading up to those early contests. Big twelve Game

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Day on tune In, and then I'm part of the

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Tampa Bay Buccaneers radio broadcast with our Hall of Fame

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voice me and Gene Deckerhoff on the call. I got

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to fill in for Gene a couple of weeks ago.

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As you know, Gene is back in the saddle here

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and we're all going out to the Pacific Northwest for

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Bucks and Seahawks at four eastern one Pacific time. In

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and around the Mariner's Craziness. I'll report back to you

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about how nuts it is for the Seattle Mirrors to

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be playing a playoff baseball game while the Seahawks are

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also playing in and around the same time.

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Speaker 5: Should be nuts. Listen, It's always great to be with you.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna make my way all the way out to

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the Pacific Northwest and back. Frequent flyer miles coming up,

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my friend.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to it. TJ, thanks for the time. As always,

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we'll try not to make it a year since you've

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been on the show again. Next time around and I

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get down the line.