WEBVTT

1
00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Studio A Here at Proven Winners

2
00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified radio

3
00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:13.839
<v Speaker 1>podcast and YouTube show with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick Weist,

4
00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. So here we

5
00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:20.079
<v Speaker 1>are at the end of twenty twenty four, and boy,

6
00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.760
<v Speaker 1>time flies when you're having fun, get out the old

7
00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:26.600
<v Speaker 1>record player and be inspired. We need to hear from

8
00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:29.399
<v Speaker 1>the chairman of the board, Old Blue Eyes himself, Frank

9
00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Sinatra regrets. I've had a few, but then again too

10
00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.920
<v Speaker 1>few to mention. I did what I had to do,

11
00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:39.159
<v Speaker 1>and I saw it through without exemption. I planned each

12
00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.719
<v Speaker 1>charted course, each careful step along the bye way, and

13
00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:46.719
<v Speaker 1>more much more than this. Well we did it our

14
00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:47.759
<v Speaker 1>way right.

15
00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I think the Frank Sinadra song That's

16
00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Life can also apply looking back at the garden over

17
00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the past year.

18
00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:59.320
<v Speaker 1>But yes, exactly. Well, you know, if I'm out and

19
00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.119
<v Speaker 1>about and i'm place where they're doing karaoke, I've got

20
00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:05.719
<v Speaker 1>to get up there and do a little Frank Sinatra myself.

21
00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Although it's usually New York, New York. We started the

22
00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:14.439
<v Speaker 1>year in twenty twenty four with your resolutions the resolutions

23
00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:17.159
<v Speaker 1>of our listeners and our viewers, and we heard you.

24
00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:20.879
<v Speaker 1>You love plants, you want better watering solutions which include

25
00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:25.159
<v Speaker 1>drip irrigation and the capture of rain water, less waste,

26
00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and more efficiency and control. Labor Saving Tips was a

27
00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:34.519
<v Speaker 1>popular show that we did. You're interested in drought tolerant

28
00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:38.000
<v Speaker 1>plants and you're going to learn about flash drought coming

29
00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:43.000
<v Speaker 1>up in segment four and taking the irritation out of

30
00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:49.519
<v Speaker 1>irrigation and Stacey I learned also that resolutions don't necessarily happen,

31
00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:51.560
<v Speaker 1>because here we are at the end of the year

32
00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:54.159
<v Speaker 1>and my tool shed is still a mess.

33
00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's the intention that counts when it

34
00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.359
<v Speaker 2>comes to resolutions. At least you intended for things to

35
00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:02.959
<v Speaker 2>to go a certain way, doesn't mean they always happen.

36
00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Your heart was in the right place.

37
00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:06.640
<v Speaker 1>My heart was in the right place, of course. In

38
00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:10.080
<v Speaker 1>this past year, also we had our one hundredth episode

39
00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of fun. We talked about garden

40
00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Topia and we celebrated by discussing that topic, essentially, how

41
00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we love turning our outdoor spaces into a living space,

42
00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:27.319
<v Speaker 1>a piece of well, let's say, piece of magic right

43
00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.520
<v Speaker 1>in our own backyards and so that was fun to

44
00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:33.159
<v Speaker 1>talk about too. But I think what was really great

45
00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:37.319
<v Speaker 1>this past year, Stacey, was both of us having the

46
00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:43.840
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to show the progress on our gardens and how

47
00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:47.560
<v Speaker 1>they're coming along. And you know, you made a real

48
00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:51.280
<v Speaker 1>impact with that. I'm going to call it a bold

49
00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:53.159
<v Speaker 1>move you made in your neighborhood.

50
00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I did make a bold move, and yeah, that was

51
00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:00.319
<v Speaker 2>definitely it had a real cascading effect on others parts

52
00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:01.639
<v Speaker 2>of the garden. I'm going to talk about that in

53
00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:04.599
<v Speaker 2>segment too, because you know, every year, if you're a gardener,

54
00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:08.439
<v Speaker 2>you learn. Every year there's you always learn something, usually

55
00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:10.639
<v Speaker 2>more than one thing, but a lot of stuff. And

56
00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:13.120
<v Speaker 2>this year, for a variety of circumstances that I will

57
00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.840
<v Speaker 2>get into, it was just a tremendous learning year. And

58
00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:20.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, it takes a bold move to get bold results.

59
00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:23.719
<v Speaker 2>So no regrets, if anything. I've been spending the last

60
00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.919
<v Speaker 2>couple of weekends feeling pretty darn sad that I'm not

61
00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:27.879
<v Speaker 2>sitting out in the garden.

62
00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too, me too. It really affects me at

63
00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:33.479
<v Speaker 1>this time of the year, and looking forward to you

64
00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about that. For me, of course, in my garden,

65
00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I learned that I love the combination of cannas and

66
00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:44.240
<v Speaker 1>ornamental grasses that I don't miss dealing with turf. I

67
00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:48.240
<v Speaker 1>have nothing against turf, but I just don't miss having turf,

68
00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:51.719
<v Speaker 1>especially the watering aspect of it. I just don't miss it.

69
00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:56.680
<v Speaker 1>You can landscape with deer pressure. Building your soil at

70
00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:01.879
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season is important and well planted containers.

71
00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.360
<v Speaker 1>They of course can change from year to years, so

72
00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:08.960
<v Speaker 1>they give you variety and provide the exclamation points in

73
00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:13.199
<v Speaker 1>a landscape design. And Stacey a couple shows that we

74
00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:15.800
<v Speaker 1>did too. There was a lot of interest in rhythm,

75
00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:20.920
<v Speaker 1>repetition and layering in the landscape. Now that's another thing

76
00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I learned this past year. I say layering strange.

77
00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.160
<v Speaker 2>That did sound a little strange, Yes.

78
00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:28.439
<v Speaker 1>It does, And people pointed that out to me. So

79
00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.319
<v Speaker 1>what is it is? It almost sounds like I'm saying

80
00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Larry okay.

81
00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.079
<v Speaker 2>But layering, Yeah, you're taken out a syllable.

82
00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:37.759
<v Speaker 1>Am I kind of okay?

83
00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:41.240
<v Speaker 2>But you know again, languages here to be understood. I

84
00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:43.800
<v Speaker 2>knew what you meant, and that's what really matters.

85
00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I'm just pointing that out because I recognize

86
00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:51.639
<v Speaker 1>it and I'm working on it. There is another thing

87
00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:54.399
<v Speaker 1>that I learned, and we learned on the show is

88
00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:59.839
<v Speaker 1>that there's a big interest in easy to grow plants,

89
00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:05.199
<v Speaker 1>and that show was very, very popular. And why not because, again, Stacy,

90
00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:07.199
<v Speaker 1>as we said many times over the course of this

91
00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.759
<v Speaker 1>past year, we do live in the golden age of

92
00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:10.360
<v Speaker 1>plant breeding.

93
00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:13.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know that whole concept I've always I know,

94
00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.600
<v Speaker 2>people love to talk about easy to grow plants because

95
00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:17.959
<v Speaker 2>they want big results with little effort. And we all do.

96
00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, even as a professional horticulturist. Yeah, I don't

97
00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.279
<v Speaker 2>want to work super hard to get a little bit

98
00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:25.079
<v Speaker 2>of results. I want to work very little and get

99
00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of results, exactly. And when we did our

100
00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:30.360
<v Speaker 2>nostalgia show and we had those great pictures, those vintage

101
00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.600
<v Speaker 2>gardening photos, it really hit me that so many people

102
00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.240
<v Speaker 2>automatically assume that plants are going to be higher maintenance

103
00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:44.319
<v Speaker 2>based on these antiquated practices that really aren't that relevant anymore.

104
00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.759
<v Speaker 2>And yes, I would say that, you know, almost all

105
00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.279
<v Speaker 2>plants nowadays are going to give you huge results with

106
00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:51.319
<v Speaker 2>little effort, and it then just becomes a matter of

107
00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.439
<v Speaker 2>you picking the right plants for your conditions so you

108
00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:56.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have to, you know, break your neck trying to

109
00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:56.759
<v Speaker 2>take care of them.

110
00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Well said, Well said, we got a quote from a

111
00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:08.759
<v Speaker 1>listener that really resonated with us, Adriana, myself, you, And

112
00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:11.959
<v Speaker 1>that is just a simple comment. Shade is hard.

113
00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wouldn't know. I barely have any but I

114
00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:17.399
<v Speaker 2>take their word for it that you know, I mean,

115
00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:20.240
<v Speaker 2>we do have to make plant recommendations frequently for people

116
00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:23.680
<v Speaker 2>who deal with shade, and yeah, it does limit your

117
00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.120
<v Speaker 2>plant palette. But I've got a quote in response to that,

118
00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:27.519
<v Speaker 2>and it's a quote that I use a lot when

119
00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I do garden talks by Orson Wells. The enemy of

120
00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:35.680
<v Speaker 2>art is the absence of limitations. Without any limitations and

121
00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:39.879
<v Speaker 2>you have unlimited options, it's very difficult to do anything.

122
00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.439
<v Speaker 2>So when you have that limitation, even though it's shade,

123
00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:45.079
<v Speaker 2>and you say, okay, I've got to make something magical

124
00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:49.399
<v Speaker 2>with these five or ten plants or whatever, then you

125
00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:51.639
<v Speaker 2>can make art. But if you have unlimited options, you

126
00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:52.839
<v Speaker 2>don't even know where to get started.

127
00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.000
<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful, That is really good. Yeah, there was big

128
00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:59.079
<v Speaker 1>interest in the subject. As a matter of fact, the

129
00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:03.040
<v Speaker 1>show that we put together about sunshade and part Shade

130
00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:06.240
<v Speaker 1>and explaining plant light needs. If you want to look

131
00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:12.120
<v Speaker 1>it up, it's episode seventy five. That show was very,

132
00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.560
<v Speaker 1>very popular. And then it was after that we heard

133
00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:18.480
<v Speaker 1>from doctor Allan Armitage who says, it's common sense, no

134
00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.160
<v Speaker 1>such thing. There's no such thing as a sun loving

135
00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:25.959
<v Speaker 1>or shade loving plant. Plants don't love anything. They tolerate.

136
00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a shade tolerant or sun tolerant plant. And then

137
00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.519
<v Speaker 1>he went on to say that he his point, this

138
00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is his opinion. He feels that a sun tolerant plant

139
00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:41.519
<v Speaker 1>is a plant that can handle the sun during the

140
00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:43.879
<v Speaker 1>hottest part of the day one to four pm in

141
00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.839
<v Speaker 1>the afternoon. So, for example, a hosta can take a

142
00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of morning sun that it can't take that afternoon. Yeah.

143
00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I agree with that completely, especially as a full

144
00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:55.319
<v Speaker 2>sun gardener. If it's looking bad in that one to

145
00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:59.040
<v Speaker 2>four range, especially when you try not to water and

146
00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:03.240
<v Speaker 2>or you have very andy soil, you start to questions

147
00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.160
<v Speaker 2>inclusion in your garden exactly.

148
00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:07.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, you go back and you think about all

149
00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:09.399
<v Speaker 1>the things that we talked about in this past year,

150
00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:12.959
<v Speaker 1>and it was a learning year. One thing that I

151
00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.959
<v Speaker 1>learned and really struck me was the fact that the

152
00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:22.399
<v Speaker 1>show about edging really resonated with people. I think a

153
00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:25.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are no different than you and Iah.

154
00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:26.759
<v Speaker 1>They struggle with edging.

155
00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not a fun or easy or inexpensive thing to

156
00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.320
<v Speaker 2>resolve in your yard. And once you make that investment,

157
00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:37.559
<v Speaker 2>it is worth it. But it's definitely going to cause

158
00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.200
<v Speaker 2>some financial pain to come up with a good financial pain,

159
00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.960
<v Speaker 2>physical pain from installing it. All of the above. It's

160
00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.279
<v Speaker 2>a come with a good edging solution. It is one

161
00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of the biggest challenges in the garden, no question.

162
00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:51.799
<v Speaker 1>You bet. And we continue to learn and moving forward,

163
00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we continue to learn because well, let's face it, life

164
00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:59.440
<v Speaker 1>comes at you fast and things are changing very quickly

165
00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:03.559
<v Speaker 1>in this world of AI. And one episode that we

166
00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:06.360
<v Speaker 1>did this past year that I really liked, and Stacy,

167
00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.799
<v Speaker 1>you led the charge on this. I like to call

168
00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the episode Liar Liar Plants on Fire. People are gifting

169
00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.159
<v Speaker 1>right now, and we talked about how the internet is

170
00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:21.679
<v Speaker 1>teeming with fake AI generated plants and digitally manipulated photos,

171
00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.799
<v Speaker 1>and we gave some tips on how to spot them.

172
00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:27.720
<v Speaker 1>This is an issue that's not going to go away.

173
00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:29.799
<v Speaker 2>No, And you know, it did seem like it went

174
00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:32.799
<v Speaker 2>away when kind of the main gardening season, you know,

175
00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.639
<v Speaker 2>went down. People weren't shopping online as much anymore. But

176
00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.519
<v Speaker 2>I have every confidence they come February March, it's all

177
00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:41.679
<v Speaker 2>going to come roaring back. It's going to be worse

178
00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:44.440
<v Speaker 2>than it was before. In fact, my mom sent me

179
00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:46.480
<v Speaker 2>a picture the other day that she had gotten off

180
00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.559
<v Speaker 2>some social media site. It was clearly fake. It was

181
00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:53.039
<v Speaker 2>like purple butterflies, like literally butterflies, and say like, oh,

182
00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:55.279
<v Speaker 2>this is a whatever begonia and then it put in

183
00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:58.559
<v Speaker 2>big letters, this is not AI And it's like, oh, well, okay,

184
00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.360
<v Speaker 2>then if you say so, you know, and so, yeah,

185
00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.879
<v Speaker 2>we do have to be on alert. We should. Maybe

186
00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll have another Hall of Shame this coming spring,

187
00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.320
<v Speaker 2>after the ads really start rolling out.

188
00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's do that. I'm going to watch for that. I

189
00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:16.039
<v Speaker 1>really like that. And of course finally we were reminded

190
00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:19.720
<v Speaker 1>what gardeners have. There is always something to look forward to,

191
00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.399
<v Speaker 1>and you don't get old when you are looking forward

192
00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.039
<v Speaker 1>and stacy. Of course, personally, that's something I learned this

193
00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.399
<v Speaker 1>past year, getting my Medicare card and turning sixty five.

194
00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It was momentous for me. But I'm holding on to

195
00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that that gardeners never get.

196
00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Old, No, because there's always something to you know, to

197
00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.399
<v Speaker 2>get up for. And I have known so very many

198
00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:47.240
<v Speaker 2>gardeners who have lived well into very old age nineties,

199
00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:50.240
<v Speaker 2>late nineties, hundreds, because Yeah, there's something about it that

200
00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.320
<v Speaker 2>either keeps you mentally, physically or spiritually young. Not sure which.

201
00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm looking forward to the next segment. Stacy's going

202
00:10:57.919 --> 00:11:01.399
<v Speaker 1>to share with us more on her project that really

203
00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.440
<v Speaker 1>resonated with people, a bold move in her neighborhood that's

204
00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.559
<v Speaker 1>coming up next here on The Gardening Simplified Show.

205
00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Proven Winners, Colored Choice Shrubs cares about your success in

206
00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:21.600
<v Speaker 2>the garden. That's why we trial and test all of

207
00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:24.159
<v Speaker 2>our shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they

208
00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.919
<v Speaker 2>outperform everything else on the market. Look for them and

209
00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:32.159
<v Speaker 2>the distinctive white container at your local garden center Greening's

210
00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Gardening friends, and welcome back to The Gardening Simplified Show.

211
00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.879
<v Speaker 2>It's our last show of twenty twenty four, which is

212
00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:39.320
<v Speaker 2>wild to think about.

213
00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe you know.

214
00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:43.759
<v Speaker 2>It's like every year we go through these backdrops and

215
00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.120
<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, oh, it's the spring backdrop already, it's

216
00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.799
<v Speaker 2>a summer backdrop already, and it just kind of feels

217
00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.639
<v Speaker 2>like the whole year just accelerates and I can't believe

218
00:11:51.639 --> 00:11:54.559
<v Speaker 2>we're already at the end. But you know, I, like

219
00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.840
<v Speaker 2>most people do, get really reflective at the end of

220
00:11:57.879 --> 00:11:59.879
<v Speaker 2>the year about all sorts of things. But yeah, this

221
00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:02.559
<v Speaker 2>was definitely a massive year in the garden. And like

222
00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I said, you always learn every single year. You're learning

223
00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:08.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff in the garden. Oh I like that plant. Oh

224
00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't like that plant. I'm never planting that again.

225
00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.000
<v Speaker 2>You know. Oh, I am definitely going to deadhead that

226
00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:17.600
<v Speaker 2>northern seaoats before winter, even though it's pretty, because I

227
00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:21.039
<v Speaker 2>don't want northern seaoats coming up everywhere. Ask me how

228
00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I know that one. But you know, this year has

229
00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:27.879
<v Speaker 2>definitely been a huge one for me. So the videos

230
00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:31.559
<v Speaker 2>are available on our YouTube channel. But I did a

231
00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.960
<v Speaker 2>huge project. So we took out our entire lawn. Now

232
00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:36.000
<v Speaker 2>not like I have a huge yard, it's a regular

233
00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.279
<v Speaker 2>suburban quarter acre lot, but we took on all the grass.

234
00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Called a company had them take out the grass, and

235
00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.440
<v Speaker 2>that was kind of an ongoing process. They did it,

236
00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:47.840
<v Speaker 2>there was mistakes, we had to wait and then they

237
00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.840
<v Speaker 2>came back and then finally Memorial Day weekend we get

238
00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:55.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight yards of mulch delivered to replace all of

239
00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:58.279
<v Speaker 2>this grass that's gone away, and we have basically, you know,

240
00:12:58.399 --> 00:12:59.600
<v Speaker 2>almost like a clean slate.

241
00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Was there a specific thing that tipped the scales

242
00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:07.279
<v Speaker 1>to cause you to do that or is this something

243
00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:09.519
<v Speaker 1>you've been always dreaming about and doing it?

244
00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a great question, and I can't really pinpoint one

245
00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:17.679
<v Speaker 2>specific thing. But you know, I always had imagined that,

246
00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:20.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, our yard would not just be like grass

247
00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:21.600
<v Speaker 2>with some beds, that it would be, you know, a

248
00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:25.200
<v Speaker 2>full garden that you go through. And you know, it

249
00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:27.799
<v Speaker 2>took me and my husband a long time, I think,

250
00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:29.279
<v Speaker 2>to kind of figure out what we want to do.

251
00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's a little bit frustrating to spend a lot

252
00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:33.799
<v Speaker 2>of time, but you need to know where do we

253
00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.159
<v Speaker 2>hang out, where do we gravitate towards, where's the light good?

254
00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Where is their shade? You know, when we come home

255
00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:43.399
<v Speaker 2>on a summer afternoon, where's the shade that we can

256
00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.240
<v Speaker 2>sit in because we have a very sunny yard. So

257
00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.200
<v Speaker 2>it took us a long time, I think, to identify,

258
00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:50.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, what we wanted out of it, and I

259
00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:55.120
<v Speaker 2>think last year it all came together and so yeah,

260
00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.039
<v Speaker 2>by the time this year rolled around, we had decided

261
00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.480
<v Speaker 2>that we were going to go for it, that our

262
00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:02.080
<v Speaker 2>grass was terrible such than it was are weed patch,

263
00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:05.159
<v Speaker 2>which is basically what it was barely alone, you know,

264
00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:07.919
<v Speaker 2>that it was terrible and not you know, not worth

265
00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.279
<v Speaker 2>really keeping, and that we were just ready to go

266
00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:15.320
<v Speaker 2>for it, and no regrets. We're both really happy. Still

267
00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:17.519
<v Speaker 2>have a long way to go. Twenty twenty five is

268
00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:20.240
<v Speaker 2>going to be a big phase two year, but I'm

269
00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:23.799
<v Speaker 2>very excited about it. And yeah, So one of the

270
00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:27.000
<v Speaker 2>biggest things though that happened as a result of all

271
00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:31.960
<v Speaker 2>of this work with the lawn removal is it kind

272
00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:35.360
<v Speaker 2>of messed up my usual vegetable garden planting. Okay, you know,

273
00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:38.480
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I did not get the mulch in

274
00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.360
<v Speaker 2>until Memorial Day weekend, so the end of May, very

275
00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:46.879
<v Speaker 2>last weekend in May. Now, most people in Michigan here, yeah,

276
00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.240
<v Speaker 2>most people in Michigan have their vegetable gardens like ready

277
00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to go, like they're basically just waiting for things to

278
00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:55.600
<v Speaker 2>grow and watering at that point. And I have not

279
00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.080
<v Speaker 2>even put a single vegetable in the ground at this point,

280
00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:01.679
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I had put the vegetable garden in

281
00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:02.960
<v Speaker 2>in the new place where it was going to go,

282
00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.759
<v Speaker 2>it would be impossible to try to maneuver around it

283
00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:08.080
<v Speaker 2>and put the mulch. So we just waited. So that

284
00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.799
<v Speaker 2>means that I did not plant my vegetable gardeners even

285
00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:13.840
<v Speaker 2>start planting it until the first weekend in June.

286
00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

287
00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Now, a lot of people would probably say it's not

288
00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.440
<v Speaker 2>even worth it, not even going to bother, but no,

289
00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:22.600
<v Speaker 2>not me, because I was excited, you know, if we

290
00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.399
<v Speaker 2>got this big project. And also I know, okay, maybe

291
00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.240
<v Speaker 2>things will be a little bit late, but that's okay,

292
00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.279
<v Speaker 2>So get seeds, you know, get all of this stuff,

293
00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:32.039
<v Speaker 2>get ready to do it.

294
00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:34.519
<v Speaker 1>I want to quickly mention that is significant for those

295
00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:36.720
<v Speaker 1>of you who do not live in Michigan and are

296
00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.320
<v Speaker 1>watching and listening to the show, because this was one

297
00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of those years where we had our last frost date

298
00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:43.759
<v Speaker 1>like the third week of April.

299
00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was very early.

300
00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:46.480
<v Speaker 1>People were busy planting.

301
00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Early, definitely, And if I had been, you know, ready,

302
00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I might have planted like some lettuce and greens and

303
00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:53.879
<v Speaker 2>those kind of spring crops earlier, but I had nothing.

304
00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.720
<v Speaker 2>So on top of this already late start, I had

305
00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:02.679
<v Speaker 2>gone to get tomato plants at this great place out

306
00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:05.759
<v Speaker 2>in Detroit. I've got amazing the nicest tomato plants I

307
00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:08.120
<v Speaker 2>have ever purchased at the best price. I mean, I

308
00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.879
<v Speaker 2>always hype to plant these tomato plants so much so

309
00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that I let I took them outside. The night before

310
00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna plant them. They had been sitting on

311
00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:20.039
<v Speaker 2>my porch because, you know, deer. I have a terrible

312
00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:23.799
<v Speaker 2>deer problem. I have a lot of deer visiting, and

313
00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:27.559
<v Speaker 2>deer love tomatoes. Not something that people, I think would expect,

314
00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.039
<v Speaker 2>but they are crazy about tomatoes. They have like a

315
00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, like they can't help themselves. When there's a

316
00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.279
<v Speaker 2>tomato plant around, they just eat it to a nub.

317
00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think, okay, well, I'm gonna get the tomato

318
00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.000
<v Speaker 2>plants out there. I'm gonna get them ready to go.

319
00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:42.679
<v Speaker 2>So tomorrow morning I'm gonna get up, I'm gona hit

320
00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.039
<v Speaker 2>the gron running and start planting. But of course I'm

321
00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.120
<v Speaker 2>not gonna leave them out because of the deer, so

322
00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I put them under my picnic table. Now, my picnic

323
00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:53.399
<v Speaker 2>table is one of those big old fashioned type you know,

324
00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.600
<v Speaker 2>with that's all connected into one, so there's not really

325
00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:00.879
<v Speaker 2>a lot of space between the bench and the table. Well,

326
00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I woke up the next morning and gosh darn it,

327
00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:09.279
<v Speaker 2>those deer stuck their stupid little faces in between the

328
00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:13.400
<v Speaker 2>table and the seat to eat every single part of

329
00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:16.960
<v Speaker 2>those tomato plants that they possibly can. And it couldn't

330
00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:18.640
<v Speaker 2>have been comfortable. I mean they would have had to

331
00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.279
<v Speaker 2>contort and twist their neck in such a position to

332
00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.319
<v Speaker 2>get these tomatoes. But they took every single bit of

333
00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.680
<v Speaker 2>them that they could reach, Oh dear, every single and

334
00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I had I think I had six plants under there,

335
00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:37.599
<v Speaker 2>and did Detroit. I was tempted. But you know what

336
00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:43.039
<v Speaker 2>what I realized is I looked at these nubs. I said,

337
00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:47.559
<v Speaker 2>they are nubs with a lot of roots, and that's okay.

338
00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I saw the potential and you know of tomato. Of course,

339
00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:53.440
<v Speaker 2>when I say nubs, I mean there was like maybe

340
00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:55.839
<v Speaker 2>an inch or two, like there was really nothing left.

341
00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.359
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I got some some extra plants from

342
00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:01.240
<v Speaker 2>a friend who had too many, so I had some

343
00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:03.359
<v Speaker 2>that were kind of full size. But I went and

344
00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:05.839
<v Speaker 2>I planted them anyway, and I said, all right, I'm

345
00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.759
<v Speaker 2>just gonna hope for the best. I'm going to fertilize them,

346
00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.200
<v Speaker 2>which of course I would do anyway, but I gave

347
00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:13.559
<v Speaker 2>him a little extra fertilizer, like maybe every week instead

348
00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:17.599
<v Speaker 2>of every two weeks like I usually do. And when

349
00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:21.400
<v Speaker 2>tomato season hit, no, I did not have any tomatoes.

350
00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Everyone else did. But let me tell you, four weeks

351
00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:28.119
<v Speaker 2>after peak tomato season, I had the best crop of

352
00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:33.319
<v Speaker 2>tomatoes I have ever had in my entire life. Nice shocking,

353
00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the most beautiful tomatoes, the tastiest tomatoes. They

354
00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:42.160
<v Speaker 2>were largely free of any kind of like pasts or disease.

355
00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you should do it again, I think I might.

356
00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:46.759
<v Speaker 2>And so this is what it really is all about

357
00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:49.319
<v Speaker 2>to me, is that this, you know, what would seem

358
00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:51.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a setback at the beginning of the season

359
00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:55.839
<v Speaker 2>actually ends up being a great opportunity to learn and

360
00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.359
<v Speaker 2>to really question the conventions that we practice a lot

361
00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:02.480
<v Speaker 2>in garden. You know, we just assume like, hey, this

362
00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.359
<v Speaker 2>is the way it's always been done. And it really

363
00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:08.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of brought home to me how dangerous and you

364
00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:11.519
<v Speaker 2>know that mentality is to have it is much better

365
00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.799
<v Speaker 2>to take that experimental approach, whether it is by necessity

366
00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:19.279
<v Speaker 2>or you know, just because it happens that way, or

367
00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:21.240
<v Speaker 2>because you want to try it that way. So never

368
00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.519
<v Speaker 2>ever be discouraged and say, oh, well, so and so

369
00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:26.480
<v Speaker 2>told me that if I plant tomatoes in the middle

370
00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:29.160
<v Speaker 2>of June, I'm never going to get any tomatoes. It's

371
00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.000
<v Speaker 2>worth it. The other thing along these lines, that was

372
00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:34.720
<v Speaker 2>probably one of the biggest discoveries, and this is something

373
00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that I am definitely doing from here on out. That

374
00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:40.400
<v Speaker 2>late start on the vegetable garden also meant that I

375
00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:44.160
<v Speaker 2>planted dill. I believe it was also like the first

376
00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:46.960
<v Speaker 2>or second weekend of June. Now, most people would plant

377
00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:50.240
<v Speaker 2>dill in spring, like probably early May or something like that,

378
00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:53.799
<v Speaker 2>but no, this still got planted sometime like first half

379
00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:59.079
<v Speaker 2>of June, and I had the most gorgeous and productive

380
00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.559
<v Speaker 2>and lush I have ever seen in my life.

381
00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

382
00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Right now, Usually when people plant dill, it gets like

383
00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.559
<v Speaker 2>a skinny little stem. You know, by the time the

384
00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.319
<v Speaker 2>cucumbers are coming in your dell's like barely holding on

385
00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:12.960
<v Speaker 2>for dear life. You probably got to go to the

386
00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.279
<v Speaker 2>farmer's market to buy some if you're gonna make pickles.

387
00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:20.559
<v Speaker 2>But I planted it late and it did gloriously. It

388
00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:23.200
<v Speaker 2>was honestly the nicest dell I've ever seen. It was

389
00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:25.000
<v Speaker 2>like a grocery store a bunch of dill or something.

390
00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:28.160
<v Speaker 2>It's deal and it was and it flowered and flowered,

391
00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:30.039
<v Speaker 2>so it didn't just do that one kind of bolting

392
00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:32.599
<v Speaker 2>thing where it gets like one stick with one flower

393
00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.240
<v Speaker 2>on top. It was just covered in flowers. It was

394
00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:37.440
<v Speaker 2>actually an attractive garden.

395
00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Plants and the aroma.

396
00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I love dill, and you know, when you have enough

397
00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:43.519
<v Speaker 2>of it like that, you can use it a lot more.

398
00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Usually you're kind of like, you know, plucking off individual

399
00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:48.799
<v Speaker 2>leaves that aren't like sad and yellowed as you try

400
00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.799
<v Speaker 2>to make your your pickles or whatever. So I am

401
00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:56.400
<v Speaker 2>definitely going to be sewing dill at different points in

402
00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the season. So rather than just do you know, like

403
00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:02.640
<v Speaker 2>one crop in spring, I will definitely be sewing dill

404
00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:07.079
<v Speaker 2>in that sort of early to mid June timeframe and

405
00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:09.240
<v Speaker 2>hoping for a repeat. And I was harvesting that stuff

406
00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:10.720
<v Speaker 2>into November, not even lying.

407
00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:15.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, you inspired us to plant more garlic. Now

408
00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I think you're inspiring us to try more dill next

409
00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:21.039
<v Speaker 1>year in the garden.

410
00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's cool, right, It is really cool, And

411
00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>so you know that's what I would just encourage anyone,

412
00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:29.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, give things a try experiment mix things up.

413
00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.160
<v Speaker 2>If you say, like, oh, you know, I can't grow dill,

414
00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:35.440
<v Speaker 2>it's just two weak and it's not a good plant.

415
00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe by shifting things a little bit you

416
00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:40.799
<v Speaker 2>could have great results. It's like we had a question

417
00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:43.839
<v Speaker 2>from a listener last week about she said that she

418
00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:46.519
<v Speaker 2>had squash bugs in Mexican bean beetles. Yeah, and most

419
00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:50.200
<v Speaker 2>of the recommendations to thwart those pests is to actually

420
00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:53.359
<v Speaker 2>plant a little bit later than usual because they have

421
00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.160
<v Speaker 2>adapted their life cycles to our planting cycles. So it

422
00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:59.960
<v Speaker 2>can be really amazing. Again, whether it's because of X

423
00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.519
<v Speaker 2>sternal factors or a decision that you made, or whatever,

424
00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:05.759
<v Speaker 2>there's always something to learn. And it has just been

425
00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:10.000
<v Speaker 2>an incredibly eye opening year for me, and I'm just

426
00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:13.480
<v Speaker 2>really really grateful for that opportunity, and it makes me

427
00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:15.200
<v Speaker 2>even more fired up for twenty twenty five.

428
00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:17.680
<v Speaker 1>We use a lot of basil in our garden. Did

429
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you grow a lot of basil?

430
00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my gosh, I had the best basil. Adriana is

431
00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.880
<v Speaker 2>laughing because she came over and saw my basil and

432
00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:26.359
<v Speaker 2>couldn't even believe her eyes. I mean, and I did

433
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:29.319
<v Speaker 2>end up planting them in twenty inch containers, which did

434
00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.559
<v Speaker 2>obviously help, and I did fertilize them okay, which also helped.

435
00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:36.359
<v Speaker 2>But my basil were like the size of like boxwoods.

436
00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I think they were like three feet tall by three

437
00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:41.759
<v Speaker 2>feet wide. I had more basil than you know what

438
00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:45.160
<v Speaker 2>to do with, and honestly, it all came from one

439
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:47.599
<v Speaker 2>six inch pot that I bought at trade her Jaws.

440
00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:50.640
<v Speaker 2>So we'll definitely be doing that again.

441
00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:52.839
<v Speaker 1>You have basil instincts, I do.

442
00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.160
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I always happy to talk about vegetable gardening,

443
00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and just again as a note of encouragement, always be

444
00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:01.440
<v Speaker 2>open to the pop stabilities in the garden and of

445
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.480
<v Speaker 2>course in life as well. So we're going to take

446
00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a break. When we come back, we're going to give

447
00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you a plant on trial, and you want want to

448
00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:18.160
<v Speaker 2>miss that, so please stay tuned. At proven Winner's Color Choice,

449
00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:21.160
<v Speaker 2>we've got a shrub for every taste and every space.

450
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Whether you're looking for an easy care rose and unforgettable hydrangea,

451
00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:27.759
<v Speaker 2>or something new and unique, you can be confident that

452
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:30.079
<v Speaker 2>the shrubs and the white containers have been trialed and

453
00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:33.000
<v Speaker 2>tested for your success. Look for them at your local

454
00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:38.119
<v Speaker 2>garden center. Greeting's Gardening Friends and welcome back to the

455
00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for us to put a

456
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:42.400
<v Speaker 2>plant on trial, which is to say, we're going to

457
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.160
<v Speaker 2>tell you about one of the three hundred and twenty

458
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 2>five plus proven Winner's Color Choice Shrubs variety, and you

459
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:50.480
<v Speaker 2>can decide if you are going to put it in

460
00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>your garden or not. And since we are talking about

461
00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:57.799
<v Speaker 2>what we learned this past year, it reminded me of

462
00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:01.160
<v Speaker 2>a saying that's common among gardeners. You got to grow

463
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:01.759
<v Speaker 2>it to know it.

464
00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, makes sense.

465
00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:06.680
<v Speaker 2>And we talk a lot about a lot of different

466
00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:09.200
<v Speaker 2>plants on the show, and a lot of times I think,

467
00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, our listeners will get really excited about something,

468
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's it's good to kind of use

469
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that as your initial spark to grow something, but nothing

470
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.079
<v Speaker 2>is a substitute for actually having it in your garden.

471
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>And there are so many plants that I have, you know,

472
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:28.240
<v Speaker 2>obviously learned about working here, Plants that I have seen

473
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:31.119
<v Speaker 2>here in our trial gardens right around Studio A, as

474
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:33.920
<v Speaker 2>well as in our display gardens not far away. You know,

475
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:37.880
<v Speaker 2>plants that I've seen for years and it's not until

476
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.839
<v Speaker 2>I bring them into my own garden that I just

477
00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:46.119
<v Speaker 2>my eyes are truly opened. It's so different when they're

478
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:48.920
<v Speaker 2>in your own hands versus when you're just seeing them

479
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.119
<v Speaker 2>at a public garden or at a nursery or anything

480
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:52.599
<v Speaker 2>like that.

481
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I experienced that with my neighbors, and they will see

482
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.599
<v Speaker 1>plants that I'm growing and then they're like, you know,

483
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try that, and they go out. And

484
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I had a neighbor who did that with Pugster bugg

485
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>nice one. Yeah, this pasture and loves them.

486
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, if I figure hates if something is

487
00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:14.480
<v Speaker 2>going wrong, I can at least ask grict what's going on,

488
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and it'll help me with it.

489
00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I'll come over and help, you know.

490
00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>For me, the plant that really totally changed the way

491
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 2>that I think about it, and it's not today's plan

492
00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.839
<v Speaker 2>on trials. It's already been a plant on trial, but

493
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>it's just so emblematic of this approach is lemone lace elderberry.

494
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

495
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So of one of our most popular plants. It and

496
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I've always admired it, I've always liked it, but when

497
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I had it in my own garden, I fell in

498
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:41.759
<v Speaker 2>love with it, and it is one of my absolute

499
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.599
<v Speaker 2>favorite plants. I just love the way that it looks.

500
00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:48.240
<v Speaker 2>It's just there's just something so different about bringing it

501
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 2>into your own space versus just kind of observing it elsewhere.

502
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:56.319
<v Speaker 1>See and that plant for me is der villa. Now

503
00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:58.839
<v Speaker 1>do you call it deer villa or durvilla?

504
00:25:58.920 --> 00:25:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I say der villa?

505
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so dr villa, the kodiak der villas.

506
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh great, lan.

507
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Once I got that into my landscape, saw how it

508
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:09.880
<v Speaker 1>was drought tolerant, the fall color, and I had that

509
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>same experience with that plant.

510
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's so wild, like you think that you're

511
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 2>just looking at the same plant, but it really does

512
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:19.240
<v Speaker 2>make a huge age difference. So I would encourage you

513
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.559
<v Speaker 2>to always, you know, take that risk, find a place

514
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to put something in your garden. Remember you can always

515
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>move it. As Rick so often says, his plants are

516
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.720
<v Speaker 2>eligible for frequent flyer miles. Has our mind, many many

517
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 2>things have been moved, and yeah, it does set them

518
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:33.359
<v Speaker 2>back a little bit, but you know what, it's worth

519
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:35.119
<v Speaker 2>it to get the look that you want. And that's

520
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.680
<v Speaker 2>how you learn. Again, this is all about learning and

521
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.039
<v Speaker 2>uh and really that's that's what I love about gardening

522
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 2>is I could never you know, I've got to learn

523
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:45.839
<v Speaker 2>something new every day. That just keeps you, uh and

524
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 2>you have to fail now and then definitely have to fail.

525
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:51.240
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I don't. I don't like garden failures

526
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.160
<v Speaker 2>get me down too much. You just I just kind

527
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 2>of say, well, I'm not going to buy that again.

528
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh same here. That's why we have a compost pile exactly.

529
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>But today's plan on trial I wanted, since we're talking

530
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.440
<v Speaker 2>about what we learned, I did want it to be

531
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>a plant that I actually grow in my garden. And

532
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 2>most of those because I am so enthusiastic about them,

533
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:14.160
<v Speaker 2>if they've earned a spot in my garden because the

534
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.799
<v Speaker 2>colors work, or the habit works or whatever, I've already

535
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>covered them as plants on trial. So I had to

536
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.160
<v Speaker 2>dig a little deeper for this one. But it's a

537
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>plant that definitely deserves it's dew and it is glow

538
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 2>girl birch leaf Spyria. Have you ever grown this plant?

539
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I have not grown it. I'm aware of the plant,

540
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 1>have not grown.

541
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, So it is actually a native Spyria. Now, most

542
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 2>people when they think of Spyria, they're thinking of either

543
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 2>the bridal reaf Spyria, which she has the white flowers

544
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 2>for us here in Michigan in may Or. Of course,

545
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the Japanese spiria, which is the tidy, little mounded guy

546
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 2>with pink flowers usually in June for us, and those

547
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>are great Sviyria. They are definitely the most common. But

548
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 2>they're both native to Asia, so most people don't realize

549
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:01.079
<v Speaker 2>that there are actually a number of Spyriea that are

550
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>native to North America.

551
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 1>And that's interesting. But I want to hone in on

552
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>something here. Then you said something that I think is

553
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 1>really profound. The plant has to earn a spot in

554
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>your garden. In my garden, Yeah, why does this plant

555
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>earn a spot?

556
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, for a couple of reasons. Number one, it is

557
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 2>native and it's in my native plant garden. Now, I

558
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>don't have like an absolutist native mentality towards my garden

559
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>because I have a lot of different gardens I have.

560
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, I have a succulent garden. I'm working on

561
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:34.319
<v Speaker 2>a new African garden of plants that are native to Africa,

562
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 2>so I like to mix it up. I have a

563
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.319
<v Speaker 2>little Asian inspired garden just based on where the plants

564
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>are from. So, you know, because space is still limited,

565
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't have an arboretum at my disposal. It has

566
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>to be something that first of all, can withstand the

567
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:52.039
<v Speaker 2>conditions in my yard, which are not which are challenging

568
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.440
<v Speaker 2>sun drought because I have really sandy soil, and I

569
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 2>try not to provide supplemental water because I don't want to,

570
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and of course dere so that's it's tall order.

571
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're keeping score at home, Stacey and

572
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I both live along the Lake Michigan shore line. You're

573
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.559
<v Speaker 1>a little further south than me, but same kind of condition.

574
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean my garden was once upon a time

575
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 2>a sand dune, so now it's a sand dune that

576
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>houses on it.

577
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 1>But we also benefit from the tempering effects of Lake Michigan,

578
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>so you know, you win some and you lose.

579
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, That's why I can do things like grow rosemary,

580
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I have a lot of other plants

581
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>where I'm really kind of you know, figs, I have

582
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>a fig kind of flirting with the hardiness on those plants.

583
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>But birch leaf Spyria earns a place in my garden

584
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Speaker 2>because it is native and because it's just a very

585
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.319
<v Speaker 2>pretty hard working plant. And I think of this one

586
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and the way that I've used it in the garden

587
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 2>is kind of a quote unquote shoes and socks plants.

588
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you'll hear garden writers talk about that, and basically

589
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:57.839
<v Speaker 2>what it means is it's just going to be kind

590
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.359
<v Speaker 2>of that low front of the border plant. I have

591
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>mine planted under a giant elderberry, and what it does

592
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.839
<v Speaker 2>is brings color and just a really really nice texture

593
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>in spring. This is an early to emerge plant, which

594
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 2>is nice. Every garden needs some of those, a mix

595
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>of all of those, and when it is in flower,

596
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 2>it is just it's just like toothachingly pretty. Glow Girl is.

597
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's a birch leaf spiria, as you might guess

598
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.839
<v Speaker 2>by the name. The foliage is shaped like birch leaves,

599
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:32.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of if you use your imagination, a little bit

600
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of like an oak leaf Hydrangea in that regard.

601
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 2>And what makes birch leaf which makes glow Girl spiria

602
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 2>different than other birch leaf spiria, is its foliage is yellow.

603
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 2>So it has like a you know, some yellows can

604
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>be really kind of brash and bright, and I do

605
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 2>like bold colors, but this is really just kind of

606
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 2>an elegant, soft yellow that is glowing. As you might

607
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 2>guess by the name glow girl in spring. Great companion

608
00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>for bulbs. I love it with bulb, especially Camassia, which

609
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 2>is a native bulb that has blue flowers. A little

610
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 2>bit later and sprang, great combination there and yeah, and

611
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 2>then it's just covered in clusters of white flowers. So

612
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 2>the flowers themselves do resemble a bit of bridal respirea.

613
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But I think this plant offers so much more than

614
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 2>bridal respiria because again, it has the tidy mounded habit

615
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 2>of the Japanese spiria that people like so well, and

616
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>it has that golden foliage, so it's a really nice combination.

617
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 2>It also has amazing fall color.

618
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that's great. And you're going to force me

619
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 1>to say the word again, even though I don't want

620
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 1>to say it. Layering. It is. The birch leaf spirea

621
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 1>is a perfect candidate, as you called it shoes and

622
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 1>socks for layering it.

623
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it is a great choice for layering. Now, we

624
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>do have it in our literature as reaching three to

625
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.240
<v Speaker 2>four feet tall and wide, and I will tell you

626
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.079
<v Speaker 2>mine has never come close to reaching that. I think

627
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.279
<v Speaker 2>probably because it is so dry, so it's drought tolerant.

628
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Enough to be able to with and growing with no

629
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.119
<v Speaker 2>supplemental irrigation. But as is often the case, if you

630
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>aren't providing those additional resources, or you don't have a

631
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 2>clay soil that's really moisture retentive, then it is going

632
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>to generally be a bit shorter. So it kind of

633
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 2>has a stunting effect, which actually works perfectly for me.

634
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I have no complaints about that. It's a really nice

635
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of one to two foot for me. But if

636
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 2>you do have it in more water, you know, or

637
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>in wetter conditions, it will definitely grow a bit more. Now,

638
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 2>I will say it does have one liability that you

639
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>should know about if you're thinking about it, and that

640
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 2>is that rabbits love the flowers. They leave the plant

641
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 2>mostly alone. They don't really, you know, cause any substantial

642
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>damage to the plant. But if your main reason for

643
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.599
<v Speaker 2>growing birch lely Spiria is going to be the flowers

644
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and you have rabbits, you probably aren't going to have

645
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of flowers. Because it blooms on old wood

646
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>because it's an earlier blooming spirea blooming in spring. And

647
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>what I've always found, and this is true of multiple

648
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>early blooming shrubs that are low growing. The rabbits are

649
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.839
<v Speaker 2>just so hungry at the end of fall beginning of spring,

650
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 2>and here's this plant, you know, putting energy into some nice, tender,

651
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>delicious flower buds, and the rabbits find them absolutely irresistible.

652
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you could use you know, a netting or

653
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>a repellent or something like that, but honestly, I do

654
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.240
<v Speaker 2>feel that Globe Girl birch Lee spirea is pretty enough

655
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that even if it doesn't flower, it's still worth growing

656
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>because the foliage is so attractive, the texture is so great,

657
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 2>the shape is so great, and you're gonna get fall

658
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 2>color on top of all that. It turns kind of

659
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>like a reddish pink and yellow and orange.

660
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 1>You know.

661
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I love when a shrub or a tree kind of

662
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>shades from darker colors on the outside to the lighter

663
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>colors inside. And it does that. It's such a pretty feature.

664
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And another benefit, Stacey, This is a hardy plant, isn't

665
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it It is.

666
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 2>It's extremely hardy and extremely heat tolerant, which is wild

667
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>hardy all the way down to USDA Zone three, heat

668
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>tolerant all the way to USDA Zone nine, so almost

669
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>everyone in our listenership no matter where you're at, can

670
00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 2>actually grow this. Again, it's a rate plant to just

671
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of underplant a larger shrub put at the front

672
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>of the border for a low hedge, just planting one

673
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>on its own. It's one of those plants that just

674
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>plays nicely with others, and that's a good thing. We

675
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>all need those helps us to accommodate the ones that

676
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 2>maybe are a little bit more aggressive visually aggressive in

677
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.079
<v Speaker 2>the landscape. But you'll be able to see pictures of

678
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.599
<v Speaker 2>glow Girl Spyria of course on the YouTube version of

679
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 2>the show, or just visit Gardening Simplified on air dot

680
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 2>com and look at the pictures there and all the

681
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>other information. You can also find a list of retailers

682
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 2>that you can look for this spring to add glow

683
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Girl brchless Spyria to your garden. We're going to take

684
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 2>a break. When we come back, we've got branching news,

685
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 2>so don't go away. The Gardening Simplified Show is brought

686
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.320
<v Speaker 2>to you by proven winners Color Choice Shrubs. Our award

687
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 2>winning flowering shrubs in evergreens have been trialed and tested

688
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 2>for your success so you enjoy more beauty and less work.

689
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Look for proven winners, color choice shrubs and the distinctive

690
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 2>white container at your local garden center.

691
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. As we reflect

692
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 1>on what we learned in twenty twenty four. In Branching News,

693
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 1>we look at well, something that a lot of people

694
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>experienced in the past year throughout the United States and

695
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 1>in various pockets, and that is drought, and drought is

696
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>difficult to deal with. And there's a new phrase to

697
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>add to your vocabulary, flash drought. Flash drought. This caught

698
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>my interest, Stacy. In twenty twenty four, they're saying many

699
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>areas experienced this, so it's a phenomenon that's existed for

700
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 1>many years, but has become more intense and variable in

701
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>recent decades. At least. That's what scientists are saying. While

702
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a normal drought is caused gradually by a lack of precipitation,

703
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a flash drought comes on quickly and is caused by

704
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 1>unusually high temperatures, strong winds, and cloudless days which allow

705
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>increased solar radiation, and this leads to high levels of

706
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>what they call evapo transpiration.

707
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I hope I'm saying avappo transforation. Yeah, It's crucial concept

708
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 2>for gardeners understand.

709
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely the weather can become so hot so fast that

710
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 1>it quickly sucks large quantities of moisture out of the

711
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.559
<v Speaker 1>soil and can lead to major crop losses. Flash droughts

712
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 1>occurred across the southern United States this past fall, and

713
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of course we experienced a lot of drought in the

714
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Ohio area this past year also, and they're saying that

715
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 1>flash droughts can happen right after torrential rains had soaked

716
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 1>the region, so many of these folks had near historic

717
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 1>wetness and then had drought all within sixty to ninety days,

718
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>some meteorologists are saying, and so they're referring to this

719
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 1>as flash drought. Kind of interesting.

720
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 2>It is interesting, and it's scary. You know. It's I

721
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>think when it comes to plants and drought tolerance, you know,

722
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>we talk about DNT tolerance, and that just means like

723
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the plant will survive it. It doesn't necessarily mean that

724
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>it will look good. And you know, I think one

725
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>of the insult to injury part of drought, aside from

726
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>all of the other things that happened for agriculture, is

727
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're just looking at your plants and they

728
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 2>look so sad and all of this. You know, you're

729
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 2>in high season, you're expecting everything to be beautiful and

730
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 2>you're full of joy, and the weather just has other plants.

731
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 2>So it becomes increasingly important, I think, to have plants

732
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 2>that can withstand, you know, huge extremes like that, and

733
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a plant like glob girls Byria, which

734
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>we were just talking about, plants that can tolerate extreme

735
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.239
<v Speaker 2>cold and extreme heat, because you never know what you're

736
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 2>going to experience exactly.

737
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And then here's something for branching news that you shared

738
00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>with me, Stacey. The buckets of.

739
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Doom love the buckets of deal, So do I.

740
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Five gallon buckets are often a source of standing water

741
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 1>where mosquitoes can breed, So we're moving from drought now

742
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to mosquitos breeding. But this simple idea turns that around

743
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>so that the humble bucket becomes your ally in the

744
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>fight for bite free access to your backyard. So maybe

745
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you've already tried to eliminate mosquitos at their source, cleaning gutters,

746
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 1>removing containers of standing water, get getting rid of excessive

747
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 1>mulch and shady areas or dense groundcovers like English ivy.

748
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>But this is where the bucket of doom comes in.

749
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.840
<v Speaker 1>So the bucket of doom is essentially filling a five

750
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 1>gallon bucket about halfway full of water and then throwing

751
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>in some handfuls of leaf, litter and straw to let

752
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it ferment for a couple of days. Now, female mosquitos

753
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 1>find this concoction irresistible, a place to lay their eggs,

754
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and in this stew, you're gonna put a mosquito dunk. Now,

755
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 1>when I was in the garden center industry, we would

756
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 1>sell mosquito dunks. They are bt I believe it's pronounced

757
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Bacillis thningensis. And these dunks or doughnuts are put in

758
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the water, they're cakes or granules. It's a bacteria that

759
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:27.639
<v Speaker 1>occurs naturally in the soil and it kills mosquitoes in

760
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the larval stage. Once the eggs hatch, the wrigglers die

761
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>off quickly. And best of all, it's not toxic to mammals, amphibians,

762
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 1>reptiles or other insects. And so a recommendation here to

763
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>consider a bucket of doom in.

764
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 2>You're young, yeah, and you know, so basically what the

765
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>idea here is is that you are making a controlled

766
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and ideal environment for the female mosquitos to lay their eggs,

767
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 2>and then creating also an environment where they can't fell it,

768
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>because that's what the BT in the mosquito dunks does

769
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>is it actually prevents the development of the larva. And

770
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>so in the mosquito dunks are really not expensive. They're

771
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.239
<v Speaker 2>quite inexpensive. I think you get like a pack of

772
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 2>four for you know, under five dollars, so it's a

773
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 2>very affordable way to do all of this and you

774
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 2>don't even have to dump it out because you can

775
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 2>just leave it. And the scummier and yuckier and muckier

776
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:21.440
<v Speaker 2>it gets, the more the mosquitos are going to love it.

777
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.639
<v Speaker 2>So I don't really have a mosquito issue, you know,

778
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>knock on wood, being in such a dry place. But

779
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.519
<v Speaker 2>at my father in law's house, he has a terrible issue.

780
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 2>So I am definitely going to be trying this out

781
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>at his house coming up in twenty twenty five. So

782
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I know the timing's not great for this handy little tip,

783
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.000
<v Speaker 2>but try to make a note so that you could

784
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 2>remember if you have a mosquito issue to try some

785
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 2>buckets of doom this this coming season.

786
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a great idea and we'll put the

787
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>link there at our website, Gardening Simplified on air dot Com.

788
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 1>So taking a moment here in this segment, Stacy, as

789
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.159
<v Speaker 1>we look back on twenty twenty four, it's a good

790
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 1>time also to look at trends. We've talked to before

791
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>about the Garden Media Group and they always come out

792
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>with their garden trends, and this in this coming year,

793
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>they're reminding us that more than a quarter of US

794
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 1>cities are covered in pavement. So there's a renaissance. It's

795
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 1>not just an aesthetic appeal to add more plants to

796
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.519
<v Speaker 1>our cities and increasingly adopt strategies that we weave nature

797
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>holistically into our daily existence. And so they're looking at

798
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 1>a renaissance theme, a social retreat. And then also an

799
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>other trend that I thought was interesting. They're looking at

800
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:48.679
<v Speaker 1>is this place doesn't exist. In other words, there's blurred

801
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 1>lines there of course, talking about artificial intelligence and the

802
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>shifts towards anti reality, which makes plants and nature's nature

803
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.639
<v Speaker 1>so much more important to us in our daily lives.

804
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it makes sense. This is how it has

805
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>always been whenever there's been some sort of technological advancement,

806
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>there's been sort of a backlash and return to some

807
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>of the best qualities of nature and the way things were.

808
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>And of course I've been having fun. This is another

809
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 1>trend that they pointed out. I've been having fun creating playlists,

810
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.360
<v Speaker 1>a Spotify playlist, and of course at the top of

811
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.119
<v Speaker 1>the list is the Gardening Simplified Podcast. So make sure

812
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to look for our podcast or look for us on YouTube,

813
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're somebody who's out there listening to us

814
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 1>on radio, which is fine too, but they say grow

815
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:41.519
<v Speaker 1>your own way. Music in the garden is important, and

816
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 1>they share a playlist on Spotify.

817
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 2>See, I thought you were going to say that what

818
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 2>was at the top of your playlist was the Gardening

819
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Simplified theme song, And I was like, wow, that is

820
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>dedication right.

821
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, the actual show itself another trend lived

822
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:03.199
<v Speaker 1>in gardens, in other words, a genuine and seasoned esthetic

823
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 1>for authenticity. And we talked about that this past year,

824
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.559
<v Speaker 1>that things like wrought iron gates and maybe some planters

825
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:13.519
<v Speaker 1>that are you know, have seen better days as opposed

826
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 1>to the plastic swan.

827
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Plant ah, the good old plastic swan plant are the cauldron.

828
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 2>You've got to have all the greatest hits. Well, you know,

829
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.039
<v Speaker 2>I think, especially as more and more people live in

830
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 2>newer homes, it makes a big difference to have those

831
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 2>types of ornaments that have some age, and it gives

832
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 2>everything a little bit more sense of time and place,

833
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it implies that there's a story there.

834
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 2>And even if you bought something at an antique store

835
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 2>in a state sale and you don't know that story, well,

836
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 2>now you're writing your own. And I love that. I

837
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>love things that tell a story in the life too.

838
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 1>I think stories are so important and they connect us

839
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>as human beings. And you can do that in a

840
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 1>garden too. It adds authenticity living fences, hedges, and beyond foraging.

841
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 1>There's still a lot of interest in foraging, and of

842
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 1>course fresh flower and cutting fresh flowers, and then something

843
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they refer to as holy molely plants, more interest in

844
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:13.760
<v Speaker 1>plants with deep fenestrations, mirroring current fashion trends.

845
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Deep fenestrations.

846
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know, so I'm thinking like monstera Oh okay,

847
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>been a trend for a long long time, so I'd

848
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 1>have to admit I don't completely understand that. And then

849
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 1>they picked the very polarizing color of the year, teal.

850
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling it a polarizing color. I think teal is

851
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:39.599
<v Speaker 1>a color you either love or you do not like.

852
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, I think most people like it.

853
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah. I think it's polarized.

854
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.320
<v Speaker 2>All right. Well, it's named for the duck.

855
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>It's named for the duck.

856
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the duck. There's a duck called a teal and

857
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:54.880
<v Speaker 2>the little kind of color bar like a mallard has

858
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a color bar under its wings. The color of the

859
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 2>teals is teal, and that's what it comes from. And

860
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 2>teals are beautiful ducks, really really interesting to see.

861
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, well, any twenty twenty four on that noe, never

862
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>stop learning, Never stop learning. I love it. Put a

863
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.320
<v Speaker 1>cap on it, put a fork in it, Tap on

864
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.079
<v Speaker 1>the brakes. That's it for twenty twenty four. Looking forward

865
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty five, Stacy, meet you, and.

866
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I hope that you all have a wonderful new year ahead.

867
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Thanks Adriana, thanks Stacy, and thanks to you for supporting us.

868
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Look for us on YouTube, podcast or on radio.

869
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:33.599
<v Speaker 2>See you next year, See you next year.