WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:04.559 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z 2 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:10.439 Boston Radio. Thanks very much, Nical. It is indeed debate 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.439 night here in Massachusetts. The top of the ticket in Massachusetts, 4 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:19.320 as elsewhere, of course, is the presidential race. But in Massachusetts, 5 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:23.839 right behind is the US Senate race, which pits the 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:28.160 incumbent US Senator, a two term US Senator, Liz Warren, 7 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:31.559 against John Deaton, the Republican challenger. We're going to get 8 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:33.799 to that in just a moment. Let me introduce myself. 9 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:35.320 My name's Dan Ray. Let me tell you how the 10 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:37.960 program's gonna work tonight. We're gonna speak in just a 11 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.679 couple of minutes with Amy Carnevalley. She's the head of 12 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.240 the Massachusetts Republican Party. I will take a few phone 13 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:47.320 calls after Amy leaves, if you would like to join 14 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:50.399 me and give me your prediction or your preview as 15 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:53.920 to what you think will happen tonight. I have some 16 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:57.000 questions for Amy Carnavalley. We're gonna get to Amy right after. 17 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.000 I remind you that Rob Brooks is actually taking phone 18 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.280 calls this hour, So the real debate will start at 19 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:05.640 eight thirty. We'll run from eight thirty to nine and 20 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:08.159 at nine thirty, we'll come back. I'll tell you exactly 21 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:11.439 what I thought in a complete honesty. Whoever want in 22 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.599 my opinion, and that I want to hear your opinion. 23 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:17.760 So let's first off, this is sort of the pre 24 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:21.120 debate part of the program. Amy Carnavalley, the chair of 25 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.840 the Massachusetts Republican Party. Welcome, Amy. How are you tonight? 26 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:27.319 I'm doing great. Good to be with you, Dan, Thanks 27 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:27.879 for having me. 28 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:32.920 It's always absolutely before we get to John Deaton and 29 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:38.519 Elizabeth Warren, which is the main course tonight, if you will, 30 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:42.760 how's the Republican Party doing? Across the board? The Republican 31 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:47.200 Party that you've inherited as a weekend party, it's probably 32 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:51.920 at its weakest point ever you've taken over the ship, 33 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.959 as it were. I give us a sense as to 34 00:01:56.120 --> 00:02:01.359 have you made some improvements. Have there been some steps 35 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:04.560 in the right direction this summer and fall. Give us 36 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:06.959 give us a little bit of an update on the 37 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.639 Republican Party in Massachusetts, and certainly don't make it an 38 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:10.240 autops seat. 39 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:13.039 Okay, not at all. 40 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.800 Thanks for asking that question, Dan, and we actually have 41 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.039 a lot of great news to report. As you noted, 42 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.759 I did inherit a party that was at a low point. 43 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:26.319 Two years ago, we had lost seats as Republicans, but 44 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:30.280 since that time we have rebounded. We had a special 45 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:34.360 election a year ago in a state Senate seat and 46 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:38.599 we were successful and electing Peter Durand to that seat 47 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:42.120 and actually flipped a seat from Democrat to Republicans in 48 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:45.039 the state Senate. And we have recruited a terrific batch 49 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:49.240 of candidates who are running in November. We're running over 50 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:55.599 seventy candidates across the Commonwealth, and we're looking seriously at 51 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:59.000 adding to our seats in the State Senate. And in 52 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:03.360 a presidential election, that's a hard thing for Republicans to do, 53 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:06.360 but we do expect to make gains in the State 54 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:08.800 Senate and we're looking to either hold her ad seats 55 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:11.960 in the State House as well. So we're feeling great 56 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.199 about the position we're in, and of course the issues 57 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.159 are on our side as Republicans. 58 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:19.199 Well. I had one of your state Senate candidates on 59 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:23.680 last week, Kelly Doner, who's on the South Coast, and 60 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:27.000 she was able to bring to light this story about 61 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.159 EBT cards and the fact that in a state of 62 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:33.120 eight of about little six point seven million people. There 63 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.520 is something like two point six million, two point six 64 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:41.080 million EBT cards floating around. This was a freedom of 65 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:46.800 Information Act that this candidate, Kelly Doner, brought forward. She's 66 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.439 a thirty two year old female running for an open 67 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:55.479 state Senate seat. Have your candidates and other races alluded 68 00:03:55.479 --> 00:04:01.599 to that seemingly numerical disparity of a great magnitude? 69 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.000 Yeah, you know so, I actually just happened to tune 70 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:08.080 in and I listened to the interview you had with Kelly, 71 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:11.599 and she's done a fantastic job just as a candidate 72 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.800 drawing attention to this EBT issue. Imagine what she would 73 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.120 do if she was actually elected to the seat. And 74 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.480 we actually think she has a great chance of doing 75 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:24.839 that because she's gotten the attention not only of inde 76 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:29.120 Republicans and independents, but also Democrats who care about transparency 77 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:33.319 and accountability of our taxpayer dollars. So, Kelly is a 78 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:37.319 fantastic job, fantastic job, and she's been working with some 79 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.600 of our leaders in the state Senate and State House 80 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.519 echoing that message on the EBT cards because too many 81 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.800 Democrats on Beacon Hill are not asking the hard questions 82 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.319 and when they are asking the questions. They're kind of 83 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.399 pushed to the side by the Democratic leadership, who at 84 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.399 this point do not feel that they're accountable to tax 85 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:59.480 payers in the Commonwealth, and we're looking to change that 86 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:01.920 as republic Wilkins, Well, one. 87 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:05.519 Thing which would be great if we had a stronger 88 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.560 two party system, and I guess that responsibility, a huge 89 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.000 responsibility falls to you. Maybe a big step tonight, we'll 90 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:16.279 be taken with the Warren Daton debate. I've had Daton 91 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:20.360 on the show. Elizabeth Warren has never deigned to darken 92 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:25.040 our doorways, which is okay, that's her choice. Tell us 93 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.560 a little bit about John Daton, and also, this is 94 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.720 a huge night for him because you never get a 95 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:34.319 second chance to make a first impression, and this will 96 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:37.360 be his first impression for many people who have never 97 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:39.680 seen him, perhaps never heard him before. 98 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.600 You're right, this is a big night for John. He's 99 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:48.120 a US Marine, veteran, cancer survivor, father to three daughters, 100 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:52.720 a trial attorney, and someone who came from extreme poverty 101 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:59.319 to be a successful individual. And he's running as someone 102 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:02.920 who wants to back to the community. He's running really 103 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:08.720 as an independent minded Republican who has talked about wanting 104 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.680 to work with good people on both sides of the aisle, 105 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.120 and that that's a real change from what we have 106 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:19.800 now under center Senator Warren, who has is an extreme 107 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.600 partisan in Washington, d C. And I think really undisputedly 108 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:30.600 has has chosen to pursue a path of partisanship and 109 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:35.279 progressive nature. And you know, I would just ask, you know, really, 110 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:37.639 what has Senator Warren done over the last twelve years? 111 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.399 What has he achieved for the taxpayers of Massachusetts and 112 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:44.199 the individuals in Massachusetts. And I think that's what we'll 113 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.639 hear John Deaton talk about during the debate and and 114 00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:52.160 talk about the need for a different perspective in Massachusetts 115 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:57.439 and in the opportunity to talk to voters about where 116 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:59.680 he stands on some of these issues and how he 117 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.319 would represent people in Massachusetts better than Senator Warren has 118 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:04.879 done over the last twelve years. 119 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:07.439 Well, Dean is in a tough spot tonight because one, 120 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.519 he has to be respectful of the office of her 121 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.279 incumbency and also has to be respectful as a male, 122 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:16.759 to be respectful of his opponent, who has a much 123 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:20.319 higher name recognition and also a lot more money in 124 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:23.959 the Bank, So it's a very interesting needle he will 125 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:26.879 have to thread tonight. Have you had a chance to 126 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:28.720 talk with him in the last few days and give 127 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:30.759 us a sense of how you think he's going to 128 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:33.120 handle that sort of delicate balance. 129 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:36.160 Yeah, I have spoken with John. 130 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:39.480 I know some of the individuals who have helped him 131 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.519 prepare for the debate this evening, our people who worked 132 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:47.079 in the former Baker administration under Charlie Baker, some of 133 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:53.120 his top policy advisors, and certainly you know, thinking about 134 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.800 the Baker administration and Charlie Baker and how he prepared 135 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:59.800 for a debate, you know, John has benefited from some 136 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.560 experienced individuals and thinking about how to present issues and 137 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:08.800 talk about issues to a populace in Massachusetts who tends 138 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.879 to be very independent minded. So I think he's had 139 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:15.680 the benefit of some strong counsel and I'm anxious to 140 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.959 see how he does tonight. And I know his heart 141 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.360 is really in talking about how he really wants to 142 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:27.079 give back and serve the people of Massachusetts and provide 143 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:29.879 a more independent voice here in Massachusetts. 144 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.120 All Right, Amy Connavelli, thanks very much you help me 145 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:33.720 set it up tonight. I'm going to let you go 146 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.039 because I'm sure that you want to get your popcorin 147 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:39.919 popped and everything to watch the debate. We will get 148 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:44.120 reactions after the debate. Feel free if you have a 149 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.000 strong point of view one way or the other. At 150 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:48.360 nine thirty, you can certainly come back and join us. 151 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:50.840 Rob will give you the inside number. In the meantime. 152 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:53.399 If I don't talk to you, we'll talk. We'll get 153 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:56.240 you on here hopefully soon, you know, at least one 154 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.320 more time in advance of the election of November fifth, 155 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:02.360 because I think it's so important and there's much more 156 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.879 to talk about on politics. You and I haven't talked 157 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:07.759 in a while, So thanks so much for joining us tonight. 158 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:09.399 I promised i'd keep it for ten minutes, and I 159 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.279 think I'm right at that level right now. Okay, Thanks Amy. 160 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:14.559 Thank you Dan, and thanks for all of you do 161 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:16.799 to draw attention to these important policy issues. 162 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:18.080 Appreciate it. 163 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:21.360 Make sure Rob will give you the calling line when 164 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.879 you're off the air now if you folks would like 165 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:26.399 to call in, we have about seven or eight Minutes's 166 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.240 got to take quick commercial break, which I will do, 167 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.519 and if a couple of calls want to tell me 168 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.519 what they're looking for, tonight. That's fine. We will air 169 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.320 the debate for you. It's being hosted by the Boston 170 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.799 Globe in channel four. John Keller and they an editor 171 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.480 for the Boston Globe, will be the panel, asking both 172 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.480 Senator Warren and the GOP challenger John Deaton the questions 173 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.080 and we will give you. You'll hear the debate from 174 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.440 a thirty to nine thirty and then I will be 175 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:58.799 right back. And I want you to load up these 176 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.080 phone lines. Whatever you think in the meantime. If you're 177 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:02.480 on the line, stay there. If you're not, give us 178 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:03.840 a quick call and try to get you in six 179 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:07.120 months seven two, five, four, ten thirty six month seven nine, three, one, 180 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.080 ten thirty. It's debate night in Massachusetts for a big 181 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.000 United States Senate seat. These Senate seats only come around 182 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:18.399 once every six years. They actually are less common. They 183 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.440 get a six year during presidents only get a four. 184 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.559 Back on Nightside right after this, Now back to Dan 185 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.600 Ray live from the Window World to night Side Studios 186 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:31.240 on WBZ News Radio. Okay, I want to get a 187 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.519 couple of quick callers in here to see what they're expecting, 188 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:35.320 what they hope to see in Tonight's to make let 189 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:38.519 me start off with Katie in Dandrews. Hi, Katie, welcome 190 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:39.799 first up this hour and Nightside. 191 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:44.360 Go right ahead, Katie, Hi, I just have a question 192 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:47.200 about you know, if you could just talk about the 193 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:52.200 biggest differences between the Inn and Warren. It's so chaotic. 194 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.240 I was just wondering if you'd give me like a 195 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.440 couple of bullet points to differentiate between the two candidates, 196 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:00.720 like what's the most important differences that you see? 197 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:04.559 Well, again, depending upon your perspective, they're both a pro choice, 198 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.240 so that's an issue that you know. Dayton has basically 199 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:11.039 clarified he's pro choice, so a lot of people might 200 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.919 vote the Democratic Party might be willing to give him 201 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.679 a chance. I think there's a lot of differences in 202 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.919 terms of their their philosophy and how they different issues 203 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:23.039 that would come up before them. But I think mostly 204 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:27.360 we need some Republican representation. I think here in Massachusetts 205 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:33.679 in the US Senate, because we when there's a it's 206 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.679 most most states have one of each, and I think 207 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.440 that Liz Warren has been there. I'm not particularly I 208 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:44.039 don't like Liz Warren's personality. She's not available to most people. 209 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.720 She was more interested in running running for president, in 210 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.279 my opinion, than doing Ted Kennedy did, which was always 211 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.879 bring home the bacon to Massachusetts. And you know, Ted, 212 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:58.360 there was no better senator at helping Massachusetts. And I 213 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.200 don't know, you know if how good Deeton would be 214 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.799 at that, but he would be at least a different 215 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.360 point of view in the Senate representing Massachusetts. So if 216 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:10.480 there is a Republican president, maybe we would have one 217 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.320 senator who would have that President's here. It's going to 218 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:15.080 be a closerction. I have no idea how it's going 219 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:17.480 to come out, So I just think balance here, and 220 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:19.480 I think we would do better if we were if 221 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:21.639 we were truly a two party state. That's my opinion. 222 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:26.080 Thank you, helps, Katie, thank you very much. Let's keep 223 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:27.919 going here. I'm going to go to Patty in New Hampshire. 224 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:30.080 Patty got about a minute left here before I get 225 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:32.399 to take a break. You were next all the nightside, Patty, 226 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:33.200 go right ahead. 227 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:34.559 Hi. 228 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:38.399 Yeah, So I'm a former Massachusetts resident, but I've been 229 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.279 living in New Hampshire for a long time, but I 230 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:47.879 am a Republican and I recently visited with a friend 231 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:53.679 over the weekend from Everett Massachusetts. And you know, they 232 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:58.399 say there's no election fraud going on, but yet and 233 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:02.279 he used to be a police officer, so he told 234 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:04.600 me that for him and his wife, he got four 235 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:05.799 bit ballots in the mail. 236 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.399 Yeah, that's yeah, Patty, I would say that happens, but 237 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.399 I don't consider that on the fraud that's going to 238 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:15.399 impact an election. Look, you know the vice president will 239 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.360 be will win Massachusetts whether you like it. 240 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:23.039 What happens, I mean, what happens with the Let's say 241 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:26.519 that they hypothetically filled that off for ballance, would they 242 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:27.240 accept them? 243 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.480 I would hope not. But again, I think in a 244 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.600 state where there'll be probably three million voting, this is 245 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.480 going to every election is going to be some mistakes, 246 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.559 but I don't consider that to be election fraud unless 247 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:42.159 it's done intentionally on a broader scale. Patty called me 248 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:44.039 again another night when much more time and we can 249 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.639 discuss this in greater depth. Thank you so much for 250 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:51.000 calling tonight. And you've fled the people's Republic of Massachusetts. 251 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:53.159 Thanks very much. Okay, going to take a very quick 252 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:55.399 break here. We will be coming back to you before 253 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:57.720 the debate, but take a very quick break, and then 254 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:01.200 I'll be back to wrap up this half hour. It's 255 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:06.639 Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. Okay, 256 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:08.399 we've got a little over a minute left here for 257 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:10.399 me just to set up this debate again. It's going 258 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.759 to be at the WBC studios, place that I'm very 259 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:15.759 familiar with, having worked there for thirty one years. It 260 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:18.200 will not be broadcast on Channel four, my understanding, is 261 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:21.720 going to be broadcast on Channel thirty eight, which is 262 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:25.679 the sort of the sister station or whatever, the little 263 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:29.039 brother station of Channel four. I watched that for the 264 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:33.039 Patriots postgame shows fifth quarter, but tonight you'll be able 265 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:34.799 to watch it there or Betty, I just listen to 266 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.240 it right here on WBC. As soon as it wraps up. 267 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:40.159 We will be back on John Keller. It's going to 268 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.080 be the host. It will also be an editor from 269 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.720 the Boston Globe there to ask questions of Senator Elizabeth 270 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:48.360 Warren and her Republican challenger John Deeton. I would say, 271 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.600 listen to the question, see who represents your point of 272 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:53.559 view better. I'll give you my recap. I will tell 273 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.679 you what I truly think of the debate and who 274 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.039 won who lost about an hour from now. But I 275 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:02.120 all also want you to light these phone lines up 276 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:04.639 and let me know. If you think Elizabeth Warren, one, 277 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.440 just tell me why. If you think John Daton, one 278 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.039 tell me why, and we'll have a good opportunity to 279 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.840 really talk about the debate as soon as it finishes 280 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:17.679 at nine thirty. So for now I'm going to sign off, 281 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:19.720 sit back just like you and listen to the debate 282 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.679 that's going to be broadcast on Channel thirty eight. My 283 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.039 name is Dan Ray. This is night Side. You're listening 284 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:29.600 town PC, Boston's news radio. All right, we're having just 285 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.000 a little bit of a problem making our connection. That 286 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:34.639 was perfectly timed, by the way, so I'm pretty good 287 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:38.960 at that. But we will either either they have delayed 288 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.080 the start of the debate or we will join it 289 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:45.919 in progress and as soon as we hear the conversation 290 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.600 underneath all now, they're sending a signal down the line. 291 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.440 It's amazing sometimes when you deal with the networks, they 292 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:55.879 tend to be right on to the second. And again 293 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.200 it's a little more complicated, but we will have the 294 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:02.799 audio of this debate. I'm insured in totality again. It's 295 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:06.559 Elizabeth Warren, the incumbent US senator, from Massachusetts. She is 296 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:10.799 our senior senator. She's now seeking her third term in office. 297 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.840 She is going to be debating John Deeton, who won 298 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:18.519 the Republican primary this summer. Again. Deaton, political newcomer, never 299 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:23.600 held elective office in Massachusetts. A litigator trial lawyer by trade, 300 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:27.919 grew up in Michigan in extreme poverty. Elizabeth Warre, of course, 301 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.080 grew up in Oklahoma. She would also claim that she 302 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:34.000 was in extreme poverty. But when you look at Deaton's 303 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:39.120 life story, he and his family literally were on welfare. 304 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:42.919 He had his own personal problems, but went into the 305 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:46.360 Marine Corps, changed his life around quite a bit, then 306 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.440 came out apparently the first high school graduate of anyone 307 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:54.879 in his family not born with a silver spoon in 308 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:58.480 his mouth, for sure. And tonight we'll have an opportunity 309 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.120 to not only take the measure both of them standing 310 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.400 side by side and listening to them talking with one 311 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.960 another side by side, but also to be able to 312 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:10.599 evaluate what differences they might have and what proposals they 313 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.759 might have. Obviously, one is a Republican, the other is 314 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:17.599 a Democrat. I'm assuming that Warren is going to press 315 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:23.119 Deeton on his support for the Republican standard bearer President 316 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.559 Donald Trump. Because Donald Trump is not a popular figure 317 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:31.799 in Massachusetts. Certainly Vice President Harris will carry massachusetts eleven 318 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:34.400 electoral votes, so she can pretty much put those in 319 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.640 her column. Right now, we have seen neither of the 320 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:40.880 two major candidates campaigning in Massachusetts, which gives you an 321 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:47.680 indication in all honesty of how close this state, how 322 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:52.279 these candidates consider Massachusetts winnable. They're spending their time in 323 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:56.759 North Carolina and Georgia and Arizona and Michigan and Pennsylvania, 324 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:02.319 Nevada in Minnesota to Wisconsin. This seven or eight states 325 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.640 at the outside that will ultimately you can take all 326 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.319 the states that are Trump states, and you won't get 327 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:10.599 to two seventy. You take all the states that are 328 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:13.839 Harris states, you also won't get won't get to two seventy, 329 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:16.519 and in order to be elected president, you got to 330 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:19.319 get to two seventy. But some combination of those seven 331 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:23.359 or eight states, whichever way they fall, will produce a winner. 332 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:27.119 I suspect theoretically it could end up, I guess, going 333 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:30.400 to the House of Representatives, but hopefully we can avoid 334 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.680 that trauma. But tonight I'm sure Warren is going to 335 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:39.440 try to tie Dalton as closely as she can to 336 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.480 Donald Trump. It'll be interesting to see what Dalton has 337 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:46.599 to say. Warren spent a lot of money and has 338 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:49.039 had a lot of money in her war chest as 339 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:53.119 any senator, the United States senator will have millions upon 340 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:56.480 millions of dollars. Deton, on the other hand, had to 341 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.160 raise money. He only spent about nine hundred thousand dollars. 342 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:02.359 I'm trying to recall these figures off the top of 343 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:09.160 my head. In the primary campaign he actually had a primary. Warren, 344 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:12.599 on the other hand, as an incumbent, did not have 345 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:17.839 a primary. She had raised a total of twenty four 346 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.680 she raised Excuse me, well, these figures are a little interesting. 347 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.680 She had raised eighteen million and supposedly spent twenty four 348 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.200 million in cash on hand, she has five million. What 349 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.240 that essentially means is she started off with well in 350 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:36.720 excess of twenty four million, but she raised this year 351 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.680 eighteen million. And look, if you're a United States senator 352 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:42.640 and you want to raise some money, you just throw 353 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.759 a party for yourself and all of the lobbyists will 354 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:50.559 show up with their checkbooks wide open. On the other hand, Deaton, 355 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:53.880 in order to win this nomination. He's raised about one 356 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:57.359 point six that's a fraction of what Warren has raised. 357 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:03.519 He has spent in winning his primary, a good amount 358 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:08.720 of money. He outspent other his two opponents combined two 359 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:12.359 to one. He spent about seven hundred and fifteen thousand 360 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:16.880 dollars to win his primary. On the other hand, he 361 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:20.119 was able to maintain about little less than a million 362 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:22.839 dollars cash on hand. This is as of June thirtieth, 363 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.480 as were the statistics from Elizabeth Warren. Rob let me 364 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:27.960 ask you feel free to talk on my ear and 365 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:30.400 tell me if you hear any of this debate yet 366 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.559 it's still no audio. Okay, you're working on it. That's 367 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:39.000 good to know. Okay. I hesitate to have callers call in, 368 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:43.200 So I'm just going to continue here and basically give 369 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:47.400 people as much background on these candidates as I can. Obviously, 370 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:54.279 each of them have the endorsements that you would expect. 371 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.160 We have nine members in the House of Representatives, and 372 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:02.519 I'm certain that all of the Democratic members have endorsed 373 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:07.400 as well as Warren Senate made senator at market. They've 374 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:12.160 all endorsed her. She has the the democratic infrastructure in 375 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.799 the state. The governor of Massachusetts more heally the mayor 376 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:21.039 of Boston. She has a she has a deep bench, 377 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:24.559 as the Democratic Party does. The Republican Party in Massachusetts 378 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:29.160 obviously is a minority party. It's a weaker party, and 379 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:32.119 it's it's only grown weaker because of a lot of 380 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.880 infighting within the party. Now that would change if they 381 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:39.920 were able to make some progress. And you, you know, 382 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.279 you hope you'd like to think that you unless you're 383 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:47.480 a Democratic party operative, you would like to think that 384 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:53.359 you would be able to have two competitive parties. I 385 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.319 think those are the states that do the best in 386 00:21:56.359 --> 00:21:59.039 my opinion. You may disagree with me on that, but 387 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.400 I think if I was living in the state of Utah, 388 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:06.039 I would be advocating for a stronger Democratic party that's 389 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:10.519 a very republic or the state of Wyoming. Uh be 390 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:13.880 very important to have a Democratic party in the state 391 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:16.279 of war There should be a Democratic party in both states. 392 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.880 Now the debate is underway on Channel thirty eight, and 393 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:26.359 I'm watching. As we're talk we see Elizabeth Warren gesticulating 394 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:31.519 as she often does, and pointing, and she again I'm 395 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:36.720 not having any chance to hear what she's saying. She 396 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:39.960 looks exactly like you would expect Elizabeth Warren. Deton, on 397 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.480 the other hand, is looking into the camera. Rob. I 398 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:43.839 don't know what you want to do here. Give me 399 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:46.200 some guidance. If you think that that we're that we're 400 00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:49.559 gonna loose, what's that? Go ahead? Rob Okay. So here's 401 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:55.839