Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z
Speaker 1: Boston Radio. Thanks very much, Nical. It is indeed debate
Speaker 1: night here in Massachusetts. The top of the ticket in Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: as elsewhere, of course, is the presidential race. But in Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: right behind is the US Senate race, which pits the
Speaker 1: incumbent US Senator, a two term US Senator, Liz Warren,
Speaker 1: against John Deaton, the Republican challenger. We're going to get
Speaker 1: to that in just a moment. Let me introduce myself.
Speaker 1: My name's Dan Ray. Let me tell you how the
Speaker 1: program's gonna work tonight. We're gonna speak in just a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes with Amy Carnevalley. She's the head of
Speaker 1: the Massachusetts Republican Party. I will take a few phone
Speaker 1: calls after Amy leaves, if you would like to join
Speaker 1: me and give me your prediction or your preview as
Speaker 1: to what you think will happen tonight. I have some
Speaker 1: questions for Amy Carnavalley. We're gonna get to Amy right after.
Speaker 1: I remind you that Rob Brooks is actually taking phone
Speaker 1: calls this hour, So the real debate will start at
Speaker 1: eight thirty. We'll run from eight thirty to nine and
Speaker 1: at nine thirty, we'll come back. I'll tell you exactly
Speaker 1: what I thought in a complete honesty. Whoever want in
Speaker 1: my opinion, and that I want to hear your opinion.
Speaker 1: So let's first off, this is sort of the pre
Speaker 1: debate part of the program. Amy Carnavalley, the chair of
Speaker 1: the Massachusetts Republican Party. Welcome, Amy. How are you tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Good to be with you, Dan, Thanks
Speaker 2: for having me.
Speaker 1: It's always absolutely before we get to John Deaton and
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, which is the main course tonight, if you will,
Speaker 1: how's the Republican Party doing? Across the board? The Republican
Speaker 1: Party that you've inherited as a weekend party, it's probably
Speaker 1: at its weakest point ever you've taken over the ship,
Speaker 1: as it were. I give us a sense as to
Speaker 1: have you made some improvements. Have there been some steps
Speaker 1: in the right direction this summer and fall. Give us
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of an update on the
Speaker 1: Republican Party in Massachusetts, and certainly don't make it an
Speaker 1: autops seat.
Speaker 3: Okay, not at all.
Speaker 2: Thanks for asking that question, Dan, and we actually have
Speaker 2: a lot of great news to report. As you noted,
Speaker 2: I did inherit a party that was at a low point.
Speaker 2: Two years ago, we had lost seats as Republicans, but
Speaker 2: since that time we have rebounded. We had a special
Speaker 2: election a year ago in a state Senate seat and
Speaker 2: we were successful and electing Peter Durand to that seat
Speaker 2: and actually flipped a seat from Democrat to Republicans in
Speaker 2: the state Senate. And we have recruited a terrific batch
Speaker 2: of candidates who are running in November. We're running over
Speaker 2: seventy candidates across the Commonwealth, and we're looking seriously at
Speaker 2: adding to our seats in the State Senate. And in
Speaker 2: a presidential election, that's a hard thing for Republicans to do,
Speaker 2: but we do expect to make gains in the State
Speaker 2: Senate and we're looking to either hold her ad seats
Speaker 2: in the State House as well. So we're feeling great
Speaker 2: about the position we're in, and of course the issues
Speaker 2: are on our side as Republicans.
Speaker 1: Well. I had one of your state Senate candidates on
Speaker 1: last week, Kelly Doner, who's on the South Coast, and
Speaker 1: she was able to bring to light this story about
Speaker 1: EBT cards and the fact that in a state of
Speaker 1: eight of about little six point seven million people. There
Speaker 1: is something like two point six million, two point six
Speaker 1: million EBT cards floating around. This was a freedom of
Speaker 1: Information Act that this candidate, Kelly Doner, brought forward. She's
Speaker 1: a thirty two year old female running for an open
Speaker 1: state Senate seat. Have your candidates and other races alluded
Speaker 1: to that seemingly numerical disparity of a great magnitude?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know so, I actually just happened to tune
Speaker 2: in and I listened to the interview you had with Kelly,
Speaker 2: and she's done a fantastic job just as a candidate
Speaker 2: drawing attention to this EBT issue. Imagine what she would
Speaker 2: do if she was actually elected to the seat. And
Speaker 2: we actually think she has a great chance of doing
Speaker 2: that because she's gotten the attention not only of inde
Speaker 2: Republicans and independents, but also Democrats who care about transparency
Speaker 2: and accountability of our taxpayer dollars. So, Kelly is a
Speaker 2: fantastic job, fantastic job, and she's been working with some
Speaker 2: of our leaders in the state Senate and State House
Speaker 2: echoing that message on the EBT cards because too many
Speaker 2: Democrats on Beacon Hill are not asking the hard questions
Speaker 2: and when they are asking the questions. They're kind of
Speaker 2: pushed to the side by the Democratic leadership, who at
Speaker 2: this point do not feel that they're accountable to tax
Speaker 2: payers in the Commonwealth, and we're looking to change that
Speaker 2: as republic Wilkins, Well, one.
Speaker 1: Thing which would be great if we had a stronger
Speaker 1: two party system, and I guess that responsibility, a huge
Speaker 1: responsibility falls to you. Maybe a big step tonight, we'll
Speaker 1: be taken with the Warren Daton debate. I've had Daton
Speaker 1: on the show. Elizabeth Warren has never deigned to darken
Speaker 1: our doorways, which is okay, that's her choice. Tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about John Daton, and also, this is
Speaker 1: a huge night for him because you never get a
Speaker 1: second chance to make a first impression, and this will
Speaker 1: be his first impression for many people who have never
Speaker 1: seen him, perhaps never heard him before.
Speaker 2: You're right, this is a big night for John. He's
Speaker 2: a US Marine, veteran, cancer survivor, father to three daughters,
Speaker 2: a trial attorney, and someone who came from extreme poverty
Speaker 2: to be a successful individual. And he's running as someone
Speaker 2: who wants to back to the community. He's running really
Speaker 2: as an independent minded Republican who has talked about wanting
Speaker 2: to work with good people on both sides of the aisle,
Speaker 2: and that that's a real change from what we have
Speaker 2: now under center Senator Warren, who has is an extreme
Speaker 2: partisan in Washington, d C. And I think really undisputedly
Speaker 2: has has chosen to pursue a path of partisanship and
Speaker 2: progressive nature. And you know, I would just ask, you know, really,
Speaker 2: what has Senator Warren done over the last twelve years?
Speaker 2: What has he achieved for the taxpayers of Massachusetts and
Speaker 2: the individuals in Massachusetts. And I think that's what we'll
Speaker 2: hear John Deaton talk about during the debate and and
Speaker 2: talk about the need for a different perspective in Massachusetts
Speaker 2: and in the opportunity to talk to voters about where
Speaker 2: he stands on some of these issues and how he
Speaker 2: would represent people in Massachusetts better than Senator Warren has
Speaker 2: done over the last twelve years.
Speaker 1: Well, Dean is in a tough spot tonight because one,
Speaker 1: he has to be respectful of the office of her
Speaker 1: incumbency and also has to be respectful as a male,
Speaker 1: to be respectful of his opponent, who has a much
Speaker 1: higher name recognition and also a lot more money in
Speaker 1: the Bank, So it's a very interesting needle he will
Speaker 1: have to thread tonight. Have you had a chance to
Speaker 1: talk with him in the last few days and give
Speaker 1: us a sense of how you think he's going to
Speaker 1: handle that sort of delicate balance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have spoken with John.
Speaker 2: I know some of the individuals who have helped him
Speaker 2: prepare for the debate this evening, our people who worked
Speaker 2: in the former Baker administration under Charlie Baker, some of
Speaker 2: his top policy advisors, and certainly you know, thinking about
Speaker 2: the Baker administration and Charlie Baker and how he prepared
Speaker 2: for a debate, you know, John has benefited from some
Speaker 2: experienced individuals and thinking about how to present issues and
Speaker 2: talk about issues to a populace in Massachusetts who tends
Speaker 2: to be very independent minded. So I think he's had
Speaker 2: the benefit of some strong counsel and I'm anxious to
Speaker 2: see how he does tonight. And I know his heart
Speaker 2: is really in talking about how he really wants to
Speaker 2: give back and serve the people of Massachusetts and provide
Speaker 2: a more independent voice here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: All Right, Amy Connavelli, thanks very much you help me
Speaker 1: set it up tonight. I'm going to let you go
Speaker 1: because I'm sure that you want to get your popcorin
Speaker 1: popped and everything to watch the debate. We will get
Speaker 1: reactions after the debate. Feel free if you have a
Speaker 1: strong point of view one way or the other. At
Speaker 1: nine thirty, you can certainly come back and join us.
Speaker 1: Rob will give you the inside number. In the meantime.
Speaker 1: If I don't talk to you, we'll talk. We'll get
Speaker 1: you on here hopefully soon, you know, at least one
Speaker 1: more time in advance of the election of November fifth,
Speaker 1: because I think it's so important and there's much more
Speaker 1: to talk about on politics. You and I haven't talked
Speaker 1: in a while, So thanks so much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 1: I promised i'd keep it for ten minutes, and I
Speaker 1: think I'm right at that level right now. Okay, Thanks Amy.
Speaker 2: Thank you Dan, and thanks for all of you do
Speaker 2: to draw attention to these important policy issues.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Make sure Rob will give you the calling line when
Speaker 1: you're off the air now if you folks would like
Speaker 1: to call in, we have about seven or eight Minutes's
Speaker 1: got to take quick commercial break, which I will do,
Speaker 1: and if a couple of calls want to tell me
Speaker 1: what they're looking for, tonight. That's fine. We will air
Speaker 1: the debate for you. It's being hosted by the Boston
Speaker 1: Globe in channel four. John Keller and they an editor
Speaker 1: for the Boston Globe, will be the panel, asking both
Speaker 1: Senator Warren and the GOP challenger John Deaton the questions
Speaker 1: and we will give you. You'll hear the debate from
Speaker 1: a thirty to nine thirty and then I will be
Speaker 1: right back. And I want you to load up these
Speaker 1: phone lines. Whatever you think in the meantime. If you're
Speaker 1: on the line, stay there. If you're not, give us
Speaker 1: a quick call and try to get you in six
Speaker 1: months seven two, five, four, ten thirty six month seven nine, three, one,
Speaker 1: ten thirty. It's debate night in Massachusetts for a big
Speaker 1: United States Senate seat. These Senate seats only come around
Speaker 1: once every six years. They actually are less common. They
Speaker 1: get a six year during presidents only get a four.
Speaker 1: Back on Nightside right after this, Now back to Dan
Speaker 1: Ray live from the Window World to night Side Studios
Speaker 1: on WBZ News Radio. Okay, I want to get a
Speaker 1: couple of quick callers in here to see what they're expecting,
Speaker 1: what they hope to see in Tonight's to make let
Speaker 1: me start off with Katie in Dandrews. Hi, Katie, welcome
Speaker 1: first up this hour and Nightside.
Speaker 4: Go right ahead, Katie, Hi, I just have a question
Speaker 4: about you know, if you could just talk about the
Speaker 4: biggest differences between the Inn and Warren. It's so chaotic.
Speaker 4: I was just wondering if you'd give me like a
Speaker 4: couple of bullet points to differentiate between the two candidates,
Speaker 4: like what's the most important differences that you see?
Speaker 1: Well, again, depending upon your perspective, they're both a pro choice,
Speaker 1: so that's an issue that you know. Dayton has basically
Speaker 1: clarified he's pro choice, so a lot of people might
Speaker 1: vote the Democratic Party might be willing to give him
Speaker 1: a chance. I think there's a lot of differences in
Speaker 1: terms of their their philosophy and how they different issues
Speaker 1: that would come up before them. But I think mostly
Speaker 1: we need some Republican representation. I think here in Massachusetts
Speaker 1: in the US Senate, because we when there's a it's
Speaker 1: most most states have one of each, and I think
Speaker 1: that Liz Warren has been there. I'm not particularly I
Speaker 1: don't like Liz Warren's personality. She's not available to most people.
Speaker 1: She was more interested in running running for president, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, than doing Ted Kennedy did, which was always
Speaker 1: bring home the bacon to Massachusetts. And you know, Ted,
Speaker 1: there was no better senator at helping Massachusetts. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know if how good Deeton would be
Speaker 1: at that, but he would be at least a different
Speaker 1: point of view in the Senate representing Massachusetts. So if
Speaker 1: there is a Republican president, maybe we would have one
Speaker 1: senator who would have that President's here. It's going to
Speaker 1: be a closerction. I have no idea how it's going
Speaker 1: to come out, So I just think balance here, and
Speaker 1: I think we would do better if we were if
Speaker 1: we were truly a two party state. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: Thank you, helps, Katie, thank you very much. Let's keep
Speaker 1: going here. I'm going to go to Patty in New Hampshire.
Speaker 1: Patty got about a minute left here before I get
Speaker 1: to take a break. You were next all the nightside, Patty,
Speaker 1: go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Hi.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm a former Massachusetts resident, but I've been
Speaker 5: living in New Hampshire for a long time, but I
Speaker 5: am a Republican and I recently visited with a friend
Speaker 5: over the weekend from Everett Massachusetts. And you know, they
Speaker 5: say there's no election fraud going on, but yet and
Speaker 5: he used to be a police officer, so he told
Speaker 5: me that for him and his wife, he got four
Speaker 5: bit ballots in the mail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, Patty, I would say that happens, but
Speaker 1: I don't consider that on the fraud that's going to
Speaker 1: impact an election. Look, you know the vice president will
Speaker 1: be will win Massachusetts whether you like it.
Speaker 5: What happens, I mean, what happens with the Let's say
Speaker 5: that they hypothetically filled that off for ballance, would they
Speaker 5: accept them?
Speaker 1: I would hope not. But again, I think in a
Speaker 1: state where there'll be probably three million voting, this is
Speaker 1: going to every election is going to be some mistakes,
Speaker 1: but I don't consider that to be election fraud unless
Speaker 1: it's done intentionally on a broader scale. Patty called me
Speaker 1: again another night when much more time and we can
Speaker 1: discuss this in greater depth. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: calling tonight. And you've fled the people's Republic of Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Okay, going to take a very quick
Speaker 1: break here. We will be coming back to you before
Speaker 1: the debate, but take a very quick break, and then
Speaker 1: I'll be back to wrap up this half hour. It's
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've got a little over a minute left here for
Speaker 1: me just to set up this debate again. It's going
Speaker 1: to be at the WBC studios, place that I'm very
Speaker 1: familiar with, having worked there for thirty one years. It
Speaker 1: will not be broadcast on Channel four, my understanding, is
Speaker 1: going to be broadcast on Channel thirty eight, which is
Speaker 1: the sort of the sister station or whatever, the little
Speaker 1: brother station of Channel four. I watched that for the
Speaker 1: Patriots postgame shows fifth quarter, but tonight you'll be able
Speaker 1: to watch it there or Betty, I just listen to
Speaker 1: it right here on WBC. As soon as it wraps up.
Speaker 1: We will be back on John Keller. It's going to
Speaker 1: be the host. It will also be an editor from
Speaker 1: the Boston Globe there to ask questions of Senator Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Warren and her Republican challenger John Deeton. I would say,
Speaker 1: listen to the question, see who represents your point of
Speaker 1: view better. I'll give you my recap. I will tell
Speaker 1: you what I truly think of the debate and who
Speaker 1: won who lost about an hour from now. But I
Speaker 1: all also want you to light these phone lines up
Speaker 1: and let me know. If you think Elizabeth Warren, one,
Speaker 1: just tell me why. If you think John Daton, one
Speaker 1: tell me why, and we'll have a good opportunity to
Speaker 1: really talk about the debate as soon as it finishes
Speaker 1: at nine thirty. So for now I'm going to sign off,
Speaker 1: sit back just like you and listen to the debate
Speaker 1: that's going to be broadcast on Channel thirty eight. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Ray. This is night Side. You're listening
Speaker 1: town PC, Boston's news radio. All right, we're having just
Speaker 1: a little bit of a problem making our connection. That
Speaker 1: was perfectly timed, by the way, so I'm pretty good
Speaker 1: at that. But we will either either they have delayed
Speaker 1: the start of the debate or we will join it
Speaker 1: in progress and as soon as we hear the conversation
Speaker 1: underneath all now, they're sending a signal down the line.
Speaker 1: It's amazing sometimes when you deal with the networks, they
Speaker 1: tend to be right on to the second. And again
Speaker 1: it's a little more complicated, but we will have the
Speaker 1: audio of this debate. I'm insured in totality again. It's
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren, the incumbent US senator, from Massachusetts. She is
Speaker 1: our senior senator. She's now seeking her third term in office.
Speaker 1: She is going to be debating John Deeton, who won
Speaker 1: the Republican primary this summer. Again. Deaton, political newcomer, never
Speaker 1: held elective office in Massachusetts. A litigator trial lawyer by trade,
Speaker 1: grew up in Michigan in extreme poverty. Elizabeth Warre, of course,
Speaker 1: grew up in Oklahoma. She would also claim that she
Speaker 1: was in extreme poverty. But when you look at Deaton's
Speaker 1: life story, he and his family literally were on welfare.
Speaker 1: He had his own personal problems, but went into the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps, changed his life around quite a bit, then
Speaker 1: came out apparently the first high school graduate of anyone
Speaker 1: in his family not born with a silver spoon in
Speaker 1: his mouth, for sure. And tonight we'll have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to not only take the measure both of them standing
Speaker 1: side by side and listening to them talking with one
Speaker 1: another side by side, but also to be able to
Speaker 1: evaluate what differences they might have and what proposals they
Speaker 1: might have. Obviously, one is a Republican, the other is
Speaker 1: a Democrat. I'm assuming that Warren is going to press
Speaker 1: Deeton on his support for the Republican standard bearer President
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Because Donald Trump is not a popular figure
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. Certainly Vice President Harris will carry massachusetts eleven
Speaker 1: electoral votes, so she can pretty much put those in
Speaker 1: her column. Right now, we have seen neither of the
Speaker 1: two major candidates campaigning in Massachusetts, which gives you an
Speaker 1: indication in all honesty of how close this state, how
Speaker 1: these candidates consider Massachusetts winnable. They're spending their time in
Speaker 1: North Carolina and Georgia and Arizona and Michigan and Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: Nevada in Minnesota to Wisconsin. This seven or eight states
Speaker 1: at the outside that will ultimately you can take all
Speaker 1: the states that are Trump states, and you won't get
Speaker 1: to two seventy. You take all the states that are
Speaker 1: Harris states, you also won't get won't get to two seventy,
Speaker 1: and in order to be elected president, you got to
Speaker 1: get to two seventy. But some combination of those seven
Speaker 1: or eight states, whichever way they fall, will produce a winner.
Speaker 1: I suspect theoretically it could end up, I guess, going
Speaker 1: to the House of Representatives, but hopefully we can avoid
Speaker 1: that trauma. But tonight I'm sure Warren is going to
Speaker 1: try to tie Dalton as closely as she can to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. It'll be interesting to see what Dalton has
Speaker 1: to say. Warren spent a lot of money and has
Speaker 1: had a lot of money in her war chest as
Speaker 1: any senator, the United States senator will have millions upon
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Deton, on the other hand, had to
Speaker 1: raise money. He only spent about nine hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to recall these figures off the top of
Speaker 1: my head. In the primary campaign he actually had a primary. Warren,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, as an incumbent, did not have
Speaker 1: a primary. She had raised a total of twenty four
Speaker 1: she raised Excuse me, well, these figures are a little interesting.
Speaker 1: She had raised eighteen million and supposedly spent twenty four
Speaker 1: million in cash on hand, she has five million. What
Speaker 1: that essentially means is she started off with well in
Speaker 1: excess of twenty four million, but she raised this year
Speaker 1: eighteen million. And look, if you're a United States senator
Speaker 1: and you want to raise some money, you just throw
Speaker 1: a party for yourself and all of the lobbyists will
Speaker 1: show up with their checkbooks wide open. On the other hand, Deaton,
Speaker 1: in order to win this nomination. He's raised about one
Speaker 1: point six that's a fraction of what Warren has raised.
Speaker 1: He has spent in winning his primary, a good amount
Speaker 1: of money. He outspent other his two opponents combined two
Speaker 1: to one. He spent about seven hundred and fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to win his primary. On the other hand, he
Speaker 1: was able to maintain about little less than a million
Speaker 1: dollars cash on hand. This is as of June thirtieth,
Speaker 1: as were the statistics from Elizabeth Warren. Rob let me
Speaker 1: ask you feel free to talk on my ear and
Speaker 1: tell me if you hear any of this debate yet
Speaker 1: it's still no audio. Okay, you're working on it. That's
Speaker 1: good to know. Okay. I hesitate to have callers call in,
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to continue here and basically give
Speaker 1: people as much background on these candidates as I can. Obviously,
Speaker 1: each of them have the endorsements that you would expect.
Speaker 1: We have nine members in the House of Representatives, and
Speaker 1: I'm certain that all of the Democratic members have endorsed
Speaker 1: as well as Warren Senate made senator at market. They've
Speaker 1: all endorsed her. She has the the democratic infrastructure in
Speaker 1: the state. The governor of Massachusetts more heally the mayor
Speaker 1: of Boston. She has a she has a deep bench,
Speaker 1: as the Democratic Party does. The Republican Party in Massachusetts
Speaker 1: obviously is a minority party. It's a weaker party, and
Speaker 1: it's it's only grown weaker because of a lot of
Speaker 1: infighting within the party. Now that would change if they
Speaker 1: were able to make some progress. And you, you know,
Speaker 1: you hope you'd like to think that you unless you're
Speaker 1: a Democratic party operative, you would like to think that
Speaker 1: you would be able to have two competitive parties. I
Speaker 1: think those are the states that do the best in
Speaker 1: my opinion. You may disagree with me on that, but
Speaker 1: I think if I was living in the state of Utah,
Speaker 1: I would be advocating for a stronger Democratic party that's
Speaker 1: a very republic or the state of Wyoming. Uh be
Speaker 1: very important to have a Democratic party in the state
Speaker 1: of war There should be a Democratic party in both states.
Speaker 1: Now the debate is underway on Channel thirty eight, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching. As we're talk we see Elizabeth Warren gesticulating
Speaker 1: as she often does, and pointing, and she again I'm
Speaker 1: not having any chance to hear what she's saying. She
Speaker 1: looks exactly like you would expect Elizabeth Warren. Deton, on
Speaker 1: the other hand, is looking into the camera. Rob. I
Speaker 1: don't know what you want to do here. Give me
Speaker 1: some guidance. If you think that that we're that we're
Speaker 1: gonna loose, what's that? Go ahead? Rob Okay. So here's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do while I wait for this promised
Speaker 1: audio of the Boston Globe CBS News Boston debate, which
Speaker 1: is being broadcast on Channel thirty eight. Let me go
Speaker 1: to phone calls six one, seven, two, five, four, ten
Speaker 1: thirty six, one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. I
Speaker 1: could talk all night long about John Deaton and Elizabeth Warren,
Speaker 1: but I would much prefer to have you tell me
Speaker 1: what you think, or maybe you can even give me
Speaker 1: a little bit of your impressions. I have not heard
Speaker 1: any of the debate. I've watched it. Warren seems to
Speaker 1: be answering her questions and looking at the moderators, which
Speaker 1: is an interesting tactic when you watch a debate without audio.
Speaker 1: Deaton has been told look into the camera. That's pretty
Speaker 1: obvious and evident to me that the the circumstances there.
Speaker 1: They're both playing to different audiences. Dalton. Obviously this is
Speaker 1: his I mentioned it to Amy Carnavalley last hour. This
Speaker 1: is John Deaton's best opportunity tonight. They will have a
Speaker 1: second debate on Thursday night in Springfield, Massachusetts. But this
Speaker 1: they say, you only get a first chance to make
Speaker 1: a first impression, and that is what John Deeton is
Speaker 1: trying to do tonight. Elizabeth Warren. I think most people
Speaker 1: have a point of view of Elizabeth Warren. She's she
Speaker 1: un seated Scott Brown back in twenty twelve after Scott
Speaker 1: Brown shocked the political world, and one they senate seed
Speaker 1: in twenty ten after the passing of former Senator the
Speaker 1: lates Senator Edward Ted Kennedy. So, if you'd like to
Speaker 1: join and give me an impression of what if you're
Speaker 1: watching a little bit of it, love to hear from
Speaker 1: you what you think six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 1: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.
Speaker 1: We can do a little bit of a civics class
Speaker 1: here if you will allow, and you don't have a choice,
Speaker 1: well you do have a choice. I hope you stick
Speaker 1: with me. Said it. Seeds come up in Massachusetts every
Speaker 1: six years. It's interesting because Senator can serve thirty years
Speaker 1: when you think about it, and only win election five times.
Speaker 1: A president can only serve eight years. Presidents are term limited.
Speaker 1: US senators are not term limited. As a consequence of that,
Speaker 1: Senators are very important figures, particularly as they move through
Speaker 1: their career, their second and their third term, because they
Speaker 1: build up some seniority, they get positions on important committees,
Speaker 1: and once they have shown staying power in the Senate,
Speaker 1: the lobbyists of K Street in Washington, that's where most
Speaker 1: of the many of the lobbyists offices aren't in Washington.
Speaker 1: They they're available. They get access to the senators, and
Speaker 1: in order to get access, they support the senators. That
Speaker 1: is really the game that all of us, as average citizens,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, are impacted by, because if you're a
Speaker 1: United States Senator, you get a six year contract when
Speaker 1: you get elected, and that's a pretty nice ride. You
Speaker 1: can kind of step off, get off the gas pedal
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, but in about year three
Speaker 1: or four, as your reelection approaches, you pick up the
Speaker 1: fundraising activities. And that's part of the problem the average
Speaker 1: person and I don't really even understand the complexities of it.
Speaker 1: And I've studied it for a long long time. I
Speaker 1: think I understand them. But the way the system has worked,
Speaker 1: the Senate passes the Internal Revenue Code, which is voluminous, voluminous,
Speaker 1: the sort of things that you and I know nothing about.
Speaker 1: We pay our taxes every April fifteenth, or maybe we
Speaker 1: get an extension until October fifteenth, but annually we have
Speaker 1: to pay our tax is if we're working for ourselves
Speaker 1: and we're running our own business and employing other people,
Speaker 1: it's a tremendous strain on individuals, those who are employees.
Speaker 1: The money that you receive as an employee is tracked
Speaker 1: and reported to the IRS, and at the end of
Speaker 1: the year, sometime in early January, you get your W
Speaker 1: two form, and now you add up all of your
Speaker 1: income for any given year and you settle up with
Speaker 1: the government. But exect the exceptions to the intruder Revenue Code,
Speaker 1: the loopholes if you will, for certain industries. That is
Speaker 1: what That is what makes the US Senate run and
Speaker 1: the US House of Representatives as well. It's as simple
Speaker 1: as that. If a Senator agrees with you and says
Speaker 1: there should be a deduction or a tax credit for
Speaker 1: some cause or for some group, whether it's the pharmaceutical industry,
Speaker 1: whether it's agriculture, I will, I will, Rob. I promise
Speaker 1: whatever group is looking for a concession, when they round
Speaker 1: up enough Senators to secure that concession. Uh, that is
Speaker 1: a tremendous victory for that industry. And it means billions
Speaker 1: of dollars to that industry. That's why there's so much
Speaker 1: at stake in Washington. Okay, let me let me get
Speaker 1: some other folks in here. Again. I apologize profusely. I
Speaker 1: have no idea why we are not hearing the debate.
Speaker 1: I can tell you it's already twenty five percent over,
Speaker 1: and I will not have a benefit of hearing it
Speaker 1: tonight either, which is frankly very disappointing to me, because
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear this debate. If you want to
Speaker 1: give us your play by play, I'll appreciate it. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty.
Speaker 1: I have Joe and haberl who has been kind enough
Speaker 1: to call in and offer his thoughts. Hey, Joe, we're
Speaker 1: in a we're in an interesting situation today. How are you, Joe? Time?
Speaker 3: But I would like you to run for office because
Speaker 3: I know you have a lot of people that listen
Speaker 3: to you all over the state. So I'd rather have
Speaker 3: you run for office. And I think you do a
Speaker 3: good job.
Speaker 1: Well, Joe, I appreciate it. I never was tempted to
Speaker 1: do that because I always felt that I could be
Speaker 1: a better broadcaster, both in television and then eventually in radio,
Speaker 1: where my career took me. I'm not sure that I
Speaker 1: would be somebody who would be good at playing the
Speaker 1: game that so many in want. The longer you stay
Speaker 1: in Washington, the more power you accumulate. And whether you're
Speaker 1: a Speaker of the House or you're the President of
Speaker 1: the Senate. Of the Senate, I should say, the Senate
Speaker 1: majority leader, that's where the real power is.
Speaker 3: Well, I've listened to you a long time, and I
Speaker 3: think you're very qualified to have any kind of position
Speaker 3: in Congress or running for the president.
Speaker 1: Well you're kind, Joe, You're very kind. The other thing, too,
Speaker 1: is that I got to be honest with you. My
Speaker 1: job is pretty demanding in terms of my time. But
Speaker 1: my wife and I had two kids, a son and
Speaker 1: a daughter, and I really wanted to be home with
Speaker 1: them when they were young and wanted to be able
Speaker 1: to coach their sports, and that, to me was my
Speaker 1: most important responsibility. And I did that and both of
Speaker 1: them were doing very well, and so that was what
Speaker 1: my priority was. But Joe, I appreciate the endorsement.
Speaker 3: I can imagine you've been to Italy, You've been into
Speaker 3: I guess Ireland.
Speaker 1: Yep, the reason's been all over.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure the people in Ireland and Italy know
Speaker 3: who you are and would appreciate it if you did.
Speaker 1: Well. Joe, I appreciate that. In television, with my time
Speaker 1: in television, I got to broadcast from England, I got
Speaker 1: to broadcast from Germany, from Poland, from a bunch of
Speaker 1: countries around the world that I probably went to Germany
Speaker 1: several times when US hostages were brought home. But again,
Speaker 1: I've set out my path. I think I'm too far
Speaker 1: down the path to turn back now. Joe, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: If you ever changed, if you ever changed your mind,
Speaker 3: I'll vote for you.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, Joe, I appreciate it very much. Jo I'm
Speaker 1: told that we now finally have our debate, as we're
Speaker 1: going to join the debate in progress,