Speaker 1: Well, everybody, Jimmy Bucky wee Bed podcast on Tony Berman
Speaker 1: here once again with Juck Melody, Chuck.
Speaker 2: How's it going really good? Tony.
Speaker 3: We had practice in the indoor today outside yesterday.
Speaker 2: Uh so we avoided any rain that may have happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it did or not. We were inside.
Speaker 2: It did in fact rain, and we did, in fact
Speaker 2: avoid it.
Speaker 1: All right now, it is absolutely beautiful, perfect and so
Speaker 1: we did get to see practice number two some standouts.
Speaker 1: In the afterwards. We talked with Nate, Robert Spurlittle, Bo
Speaker 1: Jackson and Can out of Jackson.
Speaker 2: We could talk a little bit about that, I suppose
Speaker 2: as we go on.
Speaker 1: But the number one thing that I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about today was the number one guy who impressed me
Speaker 1: the most, And as we talked to people who are
Speaker 1: also at practice, that's the first name that kept coming up,
Speaker 1: and that is wide receiver Devin n Qwan, who made
Speaker 1: He had at least two long catches. One of them
Speaker 1: was a touchdown. You have another one where and the
Speaker 1: one that he caught for a touchdown was Yeah, Dominic
Speaker 1: Kelly in coverage, Yeah, sliding kind of over the shoulder,
Speaker 1: dropped in by Julian saying, great catch. I have another
Speaker 1: one where he's going up over the middle, goes way
Speaker 1: up to get it, catches it, comes down, spins out
Speaker 1: of a tackle, keeps running. And this dude was awesome
Speaker 1: again today, even better today than he was yesterday, and
Speaker 1: yesterday I was really impressed. So now like why fonts
Speaker 1: on him? And welcome to the Buck Eye Weekly Podcast.
Speaker 1: Is I might have to double all of my numbers
Speaker 1: for him this year.
Speaker 3: You know, Tony, we were talking about yesterday and I
Speaker 3: said to you, I'm of the opinion that he is
Speaker 3: going to be the clear number two guy in terms
Speaker 3: of production, and that was kind of your feeling as well,
Speaker 3: like I don't think it's a question at this point.
Speaker 3: And it almost felt like the way the guys were
Speaker 3: reacting to him, like it feels like they all get
Speaker 3: that too. And this was one of maybe I don't
Speaker 3: know the knocks on him, but maybe the questions on
Speaker 3: him was, yeah, he can do the stuff, getting the
Speaker 3: ball yards after catch, how's he gonna be catching the
Speaker 3: ball down field? My gosh, man, the guy for a
Speaker 3: dude who's not very big, right, doesn't have very long limbs,
Speaker 3: got a real knack for the ball in the air
Speaker 3: and the catch he made on Dominic Kelly in the
Speaker 3: end zone. Everybody was fired up. I mean, I'm supposed
Speaker 3: to be professional. I got a little fired up too.
Speaker 3: Tony apologized for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if I remember, I've been to try to
Speaker 1: also throw in some one of the blocking drills where
Speaker 1: the receivers are going and just like running into Anthony
Speaker 1: Schlegel on Devin mcew and what Adam.
Speaker 2: I kept going at him.
Speaker 1: It was like wrestling with him, and he just looks
Speaker 1: like he's having time of his life at Ohio State.
Speaker 2: That's time of their life there for the defensive backs
Speaker 2: covering him. Man. Just that was also my big question
Speaker 2: with him is is there somebody.
Speaker 1: That can come down with football like Carnilge did And
Speaker 1: so far he has and he's the play action throwing
Speaker 1: jeep to him right now is very very effective. And
Speaker 1: that's when Ohio State's and base or when they're in nickel,
Speaker 1: he's getting open and he's getting open all over the place.
Speaker 3: And so the question now is you never wanted ever
Speaker 3: to I'll tell you what number four as in Jeremiah Man.
Speaker 3: He even looks faster this year. It's just remarkable. He
Speaker 3: looks so amazing out there in a room full of megafreaks.
Speaker 3: He just stands out as an alien every time, and
Speaker 3: it's just so hard not to watch him basically do everything. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he looks tremendous. Brock Boyd with a couple of
Speaker 3: smooth catches today, one with the little yards after catch
Speaker 3: that he came down with, got the ball punched out.
Speaker 2: We thought the knee was down, but he still had
Speaker 2: to run. Still got to run. Gotta run, you gotta run.
Speaker 1: And one of the things I've noticed in these first
Speaker 1: few days of practice, when somebody's running, Keenan Bailey will
Speaker 1: run with them and coach them up a little bit
Speaker 1: on the route that they're they're jogging.
Speaker 2: Chris Henry Jr. Again was he looks completely comfortable.
Speaker 1: He's rotating in with the ones and twos, and a
Speaker 1: lot of guys are That's that's how camp goes. It
Speaker 1: was interesting then, as we're talking ones and twos to
Speaker 1: see yesterday Day one Austin Cirivell a left tackle or
Speaker 1: left right guard, and Ian Moore at left tackle. Today,
Speaker 1: Austin Siravell back at left tackle, Josh Padilla at right guard.
Speaker 2: Later on you saw a little bit of Ian Moore
Speaker 2: at right tackle.
Speaker 1: So, as Ryan Day said after practice, they're gonna move
Speaker 1: guys around, see what guys can do, and that's what
Speaker 1: they did.
Speaker 2: And it was good to see Ian Moore getting some
Speaker 2: reps at right tackle book yesterday and today so that
Speaker 2: they know more about him as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and uh, you know, the the look of that
Speaker 3: offensive line coming together. I noticed with the young guys,
Speaker 3: uh the uh Max Riley freshman Max Triley, who was
Speaker 3: you know, pretty much guard all spring, they were working
Speaker 3: him with the centers today and we did see some
Speaker 3: bad snaffs. But I'm not sure what what the what
Speaker 3: the move is there, but just something I noticed that
Speaker 3: they hadn't done before.
Speaker 2: But we will see.
Speaker 3: Like we talked about, you know, yesterday, the mixing up
Speaker 3: of who's going to be that that sixth guy or
Speaker 3: the odd man out Padilla, Phil Daniels or Ian Moore,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be Ian Moore.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and I did have some people telling me that
Speaker 1: James Smith was given Josh Bidia some trouble he can
Speaker 1: do that, and it's like, well, I mean, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's going to happen as we see more one. It's
Speaker 1: interesting to see like James Smith so far right now,
Speaker 1: still working with the Two's what he did in his finger.
Speaker 1: He moves all around, like I said, They move up
Speaker 1: and down with the ones and the twos, like all
Speaker 1: of the tight ends basically worked with the ones. At
Speaker 1: some point today Nate Roberts, I asked him, how how
Speaker 1: deep are.
Speaker 2: You guys this year compared to last year? Tight end?
Speaker 1: He's like, just as deep I now, deeper, much more versatile,
Speaker 1: which I would agree with because they can all they
Speaker 1: all have experience doing basically both both spots. Now we
Speaker 1: all know it's the year of the tight end, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's an interesting versatile group that could help
Speaker 1: that offensive line even more anybody else, anybody else stayed
Speaker 1: out on offense?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, all right, listen, Isaiah Wes we talked about yesterday,
Speaker 3: and we were talking, are we thinking, you know, sixty
Speaker 3: forty this year? Because Isaiah does look so good Ryan
Speaker 3: Day Peyton Pierce talked about him yesterday.
Speaker 2: Today it was an even more.
Speaker 3: Impressive day for Isaiah out there than it was yesterday,
Speaker 3: at least from what I saw. I know you were
Speaker 3: closer to him yesterday, but today we got to see
Speaker 3: it all and Isaiah looks so much more explosive.
Speaker 2: He looks so much quicker. Laterally.
Speaker 3: We know last year he already led the team in
Speaker 3: mistackles forced per carry, which is his neck, he's tough
Speaker 3: to bring down. So if he's looking better with his
Speaker 3: cuts and laterally in quickness, and he's better physically than
Speaker 3: anybody else that he showed that last year, I don't
Speaker 3: know how this isn't a fifty to fifty, like you know,
Speaker 3: who's going to lead this team in rushing? Like this
Speaker 3: is a coin flip at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said yesterday, it'll be interesting. The
Speaker 2: real interesting thing is who leads with them and carries.
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm not on the message board book Guy
Speaker 2: Insider's message board.
Speaker 1: I said maybe like seventy thirty or like I said,
Speaker 1: there like a thirty percent chance that Isaiah West leads
Speaker 1: them into rushing And that feels really low to me
Speaker 1: right now. And just watching him against today and he
Speaker 1: had no pads, no tackling, there's still there's no thudding,
Speaker 1: but they are there's some hitting a little bit going on.
Speaker 2: He is running at many.
Speaker 1: Tackles, but when he gets out there's like a swing
Speaker 1: pass where he got to the quarter and just zero
Speaker 1: to sixty instantly and showed off some of the speed
Speaker 1: that I don't think people think maybe he didn't have
Speaker 1: as much of last year, that's right, but he and
Speaker 1: he looks, He looks every bit of whatever you want
Speaker 1: to running.
Speaker 2: Back to look like right now. Now.
Speaker 3: Some people I heard say that they thought maybe Bo
Speaker 3: was a little dinged up. He talked, he was asked
Speaker 3: that he said he's fully healthy. That doesn't necessarily mean
Speaker 3: he is, but he said he was. But it just
Speaker 3: feels like the energy in there, the energy it feels
Speaker 3: like again, And it felt like this yesterday. If you
Speaker 3: didn't know who the starting running back was and you
Speaker 3: were just coming in to watch practice you hadn't seen
Speaker 3: last year, you would say it's thirty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's been running with the Ones. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I have got I haven't gotten to see
Speaker 1: as much of Bo Jackson. This This falls so far
Speaker 1: because I've been just the way things are split up
Speaker 1: and watching the Ones more and for so for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing for Isaiah Westbourne that I am Bo Jackson
Speaker 1: it's still you know, no legend beg yet right that
Speaker 1: he'd be out a couple of days. So we'll see
Speaker 1: if he's back tomorrow. I don't know looking forward obviously
Speaker 1: to seeing what he could do. Nothing major there from
Speaker 1: what we've been told.
Speaker 3: So I got one note on the tight ends before
Speaker 3: we move, uh, watching every individual group in practice. Keenan
Speaker 3: Bailey has talked consistently for a couple of years about
Speaker 3: wanting to be the toughest group on the team because
Speaker 3: he understands that and he did say this in twenty
Speaker 3: four you know, we're the least talented group on the team.
Speaker 3: I don't think he says that anymore, but he's always
Speaker 3: wanted those guys to be the toughest. They practice with
Speaker 3: the most intensity of any group. And that really stands
Speaker 3: out to me because if you're gonna try to say that,
Speaker 3: back it up and practice they do the most fiery group,
Speaker 3: the hardest hitting and just just something to put out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like I said, lots of us oftelity.
Speaker 1: I've got people ask him like, well, who's what the
Speaker 1: ones they're all they're all rotating it there, and like
Speaker 1: Nate Roberts said, they've got five guys that can play.
Speaker 2: To start practicing was.
Speaker 1: Like Benet Christian and maxell Blanc running with the ones
Speaker 1: and then everybody else gets in there.
Speaker 2: And we've seen max le Blanc makes them plays the
Speaker 2: last couple of days, which is good.
Speaker 1: He saw Brody Lennon catching the touchdown on Nick later
Speaker 1: with a couple of pads, So yeah, they're they're producing.
Speaker 2: And as we know, again you have the tight end
Speaker 2: the defensive line.
Speaker 1: You got to spend some time with Kinana Jackson talking
Speaker 1: about what the player this for him this year.
Speaker 3: So and again something we also talked about yesterday, if
Speaker 3: you can find somebody to be the Kenyada last year,
Speaker 3: to be that solid strong side defensive end, then you
Speaker 3: could potentially free up Kenyada to be more of a
Speaker 3: Caden Curry role. And he was asked about this year
Speaker 3: what we may see different from him, and he said,
Speaker 3: last year, I think I sacrificed.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 3: This year, I'm going to get to play a little
Speaker 3: more all over. And you know, you get the sense
Speaker 3: that he really wanted to do that, and we know
Speaker 3: that he did that for a little spell last year
Speaker 3: when he asked for it, and I feel like it
Speaker 3: was part of the plan all along.
Speaker 2: I'm coming back.
Speaker 3: I want to be that and he, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of confirmed that that is what we're going to see
Speaker 3: out of him this year, and that is exciting news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to back off of my first
Speaker 1: round draft pick prediction for him or the potential that
Speaker 1: he has ten plus sack potential.
Speaker 2: I think he was six and a half last year
Speaker 2: and so he's got He was I tepical. He looks
Speaker 2: how you will your defensive ends to look. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: He's ball, he's big, he's still long and lean like
Speaker 1: it's physically I don't know how it all fenced, like,
Speaker 1: how it all works, but he's just the prototype there
Speaker 1: defensive tackles. It's basically been the same since we've It's
Speaker 1: saw John Walker and Will Smith and Knows and Edrick
Speaker 1: Houston and James Smith at three Tech and mixing in
Speaker 1: some Jamarios Simeon and some Jason Moore, Roughen and Jason Moore.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I learned much there that we
Speaker 2: did already know today.
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing that I saw on defense,
Speaker 1: well we can before we get to the secondary, where
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: I will say.
Speaker 1: Riley Penny John was working off ball some today as well,
Speaker 1: where as yesterday he was only at the Sam.
Speaker 2: Today he was back at the Will and also Sam.
Speaker 1: So that was good to see. They opened up the
Speaker 1: Nickel today. We did not see it at all yesterday.
Speaker 1: So your first team nickel right out of the gate,
Speaker 1: freshman Jay Timmons.
Speaker 2: No surprise.
Speaker 3: We talked about him in our one hundred snap show
Speaker 3: that you know that might be the guy that we
Speaker 3: see double or triple that one hundred stap club for
Speaker 3: the freshman right there at that nickel spot. He's a natural.
Speaker 3: The buzz about him has been just off the charts.
Speaker 3: And you know, we heard Devin Sam just talk about
Speaker 3: him yesterday in a way that sound a little bit
Speaker 3: different than you talk about most freshmen, and it's it
Speaker 3: certainly seems like that is the case. The guy is
Speaker 3: the real deal. We're gonna see a whole lot of
Speaker 3: them this year.
Speaker 2: Well, Earl Little said he was making plays as soon
Speaker 2: as he walt in. Wow.
Speaker 1: Basically, so I'll have to write about him, I suppose,
Speaker 1: because yeah, he's just as like I don't know how
Speaker 1: else we could say all, just go back and watch
Speaker 1: yesterday show. He's just a football player. He's a ball
Speaker 1: at and that's basically all you need to know. And
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to try not to get hung up
Speaker 1: and saying like remember Antoine Winfield as a true freshman nickelback.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that because that's sacrilegious, but
Speaker 1: it does pose this interesting question of.
Speaker 2: So when they are.
Speaker 1: With the five defensive backs, who's your starting five? And
Speaker 1: like right now, Terry Moore and Leroy Roker have been
Speaker 1: with the twos. The first team of safeties have been
Speaker 1: Jayala Leclay in the back end, you're a little in
Speaker 1: the box, and then Jay Timmins or you know, I
Speaker 1: would I suspect Jermaine Matthews might be that guy as
Speaker 1: well as that number one nickel. And then we also
Speaker 1: saw Jermaine Matthews interestingly like open with like the twos
Speaker 1: and the threes at quarter finished with the ones. I
Speaker 1: think some of this may be just like snap down
Speaker 1: one of the other guy's reps. And Jermaine Matthews as
Speaker 1: a senior doesn't need all of this necessarily the same
Speaker 1: work that everybody else does. But what are you making
Speaker 1: of this secondary right now, and I will say dominic
Speaker 1: Kelly gave up a couple of couple of long passes
Speaker 1: to Devin McEwan or, who I'm contending will be your
Speaker 1: husband a favorite. So no shade there, but your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this secretary so.
Speaker 3: Far, I think it's a great spot to be in
Speaker 3: because I think the emergence of Dominic Kelly and the
Speaker 3: emergence of Jay Timmins has given you this scenario where Okay,
Speaker 3: now we got a couple of odd men out, and
Speaker 3: I think that most likely to your point about Jermaine,
Speaker 3: it's more that he's he's kind of locked in there
Speaker 3: and that he's going to be that guy that plays
Speaker 3: the majority of those reps across from Devin, but that
Speaker 3: Dominic Kelly will play there a lot as well. And Jermaine,
Speaker 3: we know we can play the nickel. But if Jay
Speaker 3: Timmins is as good as is, you know, we're kind
Speaker 3: of feeling like he might be. I think he's gonna
Speaker 3: better than Jermaine, and I think he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said yesterday, he's probably Jay Timmens as your
Speaker 1: starting dime in some fascets. But Leroy Ruff was also
Speaker 1: the dime last year at times as well, So the
Speaker 1: options that they have this year, I.
Speaker 2: Kind of just see it right now.
Speaker 1: If I were to make a guess, I would say
Speaker 1: that Jery Matthews and Sanchez are your starters at quarter
Speaker 1: like long passing downs, Jamaine Matthews slides inside and and
Speaker 1: Dominic Kelly comes in. But they're gonna find something for
Speaker 1: Jane Tempans' that's what That's what you keep hearing behind
Speaker 1: the scenes and when you see him out there with
Speaker 1: the ones I'm dating two of practice, what other judgment
Speaker 1: are you supposed to make?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it doesn't stand out is out of place either.
Speaker 3: He looks like he knows exactly what he's doing and
Speaker 3: he moves great. It's it's it's legit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to see anything else from not really to
Speaker 1: hear that anything else from today that just stands out
Speaker 1: other than shout out to I love the shout out
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 3: It's from the drive by ball punching. This is something
Speaker 3: we saw emphasized coming into the twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 3: Early in the spring and then in the preseason they
Speaker 3: really wanted to focus on punching the ball out. We
Speaker 3: saw it executed early in the twenty twenty four season
Speaker 3: Michigan State, and then it kind of died off and
Speaker 3: we didn't see the effort and it just kind of
Speaker 3: petered out. I think we're seeing a lot of that
Speaker 3: this year, trying to force the turnover, punching the ball
Speaker 3: out working great here in practice. We saw a couple
Speaker 3: of them today. It seems like something will see them
Speaker 3: carry into the season. Will it be something that they
Speaker 3: that they continue to emphasize throughout the season as we
Speaker 3: saw again we saw peter out in twenty four, but
Speaker 3: that is something that stood out to me in the
Speaker 3: first two days. We're seeing a whole lot of that,
Speaker 3: trying to force the turnover in that way. So we'll see,
Speaker 3: well and coach just tell you you get what you emphasize.
Speaker 3: And losing the guys that they did on defense.
Speaker 1: I think focusing on turnovers and keeping this new defense
Speaker 1: from being out there as long as they have, to me,
Speaker 1: I think that would help. So one, let's see one
Speaker 1: last things that I have one last thing that I
Speaker 1: wanted to throughout that. I'll just say this favorite ALKI
Speaker 1: looks bigger to me last time I saw him in
Speaker 1: the spring it's like, boy, you know, he's a little fetter,
Speaker 1: but now he looks like he's a full.
Speaker 2: Full on running back. But that's it for me. Anything else,
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 3: Well, one other thing, Kenyatta Jackson said at Pisatani lay
Speaker 3: as a finesse guy. Now he's got the power to
Speaker 3: back it up. Also said that bo Atkinson worked his
Speaker 3: butt off after practice every day to get to what
Speaker 3: we're seeing now, which is a much better version of
Speaker 3: bo Atkinson.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we will be back on Sunday or Saturday at
Speaker 1: the Wady for the practice number three. First, you can
Speaker 1: find all of our coverage at Buckeye Insiders dot com.
Speaker 2: We'll have more for you.
Speaker 1: I'll write up a practice report. We bounce on your
Speaker 1: message board as well. That was fantastic times to joining
Speaker 1: you can't remember follow this season along with us because
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be pretty darn good.
Speaker 2: So that will do it from here. Thank you all
Speaker 2: for tinian and we'll talk to.
Speaker 3: You all later.
Speaker 2: Was it through a way?
Speaker 3: Don't no one tell me I wish you'd never.
Speaker 4: Meant nothing where if you could
Speaker 1: Tell me that's the mots all right, we could steal
Speaker 1: currently tonight