Speaker 1: Good morning. How are you doing today, Gary, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2: How are you doing well.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to share a conversation with you because
as I have paged through this book, I'm getting visions
of your next book. And I think it's called mahomes
versus read because, I mean, we're living in a time
of NFL history where the connection, the collaboration between the
coaches and those players is so valuable, and you're giving
us the inside journey as to how this even happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's just a fascinating story because
of what they accomplished together and how unlikely and it
was to happen in the first place. So you know,
I really approach this thing like this. This is such
a fascinating topic with an unanswered question of who deserves
the most credit. And I mean I loved researching and
writing this book and I hope it's enlightening for the
readers that I really took the behind the scenes of
the greatest dynasty in NFL history. Well.
Speaker 1: See, the thing is is that in watching this story grow,
because I've been apart since day one of the of
that first Super Bowl win, even when they took on
the Carolina Panthers in the Super Bowl. It's always been
a part of my life. But what I've always seen
though is Belichick is the master of the dojong in
martial arts, and Tom is the student. So I've always
seen Belichick as being the leader and Tom is growing
into the shoes where he can now become the master.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it was that way early on that
there's no question that Belichick was, you know, the dominating
presence on that team, and that Tom was just happy
to be there is as a six round pick who
was given a chance to to make a team as
a four string quarterback in his rookie year and then
having an opportunity to play in the second year when
when Drew Bledchel hurt. But yeah, I think early on
you definitely look at Belichick and say, yeah, it's his
team and he's the one that decided whether to play
Brady or not. He's the one who drafted him. But
certainly as it went on, I think it was definitely
more Brady.
Speaker 1: Aren't you proving that this is still a conversation inside
the man cave, because I mean inside your book, I
mean you talk with Parcels Johnson as with so many
other people, and to me, this is what it's all about,
is that if we can hear from those that have
lived the life and now as regular armchair quarterbacks, we're going, oh,
there's a deeper journey here, and you're presented it for
us inside this book.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean I always aim to do that
in my books, is to take people behind the scenes
and tell them things they don't know. I mean, everybody
knows they got to ninth Super Bowls together on one
to six and all that stuff, but you know, the
inner workings of it, the ups and downs, the arc
of their relationship. I think that's where you know, my
my books, I always try to aim for stuff like
that so that ticketing people can read it and walk
away saying, you know, I didn't know that, or you
know this, this is this just give me something to
really think about.
Speaker 1: Well, see, it helps me understand the game even more
because you know, we all sit there and see that
the plays, you know, just go after another after another
four quarters in a row, but we don't know what
it took to get to that field and the years
of practice and basically you've got to be able to
have trust between the coach as well as a player.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I think that you mean in
terms of.
Speaker 1: Me, Well, well, even with you sharing this story, you're
part of this relationship as well, dude, I mean, coming
then you're you're an important part of this because you're
building a foundation for the generations that did not get
to experience Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I feel like anybody, any author, Hey,
obviously helps to have, you know, good relationship with the
and the trust of the people that you're writing about.
Speaker 1: Oh, please do not move. We're just getting started with
Gary Myers. Hey, thanks for coming back to my conversation
with sports writer Gary Myers. The name of the book,
Brady Versus Belichick, the Dynasty debate. They trust that you've
got to have to be able to get out there
on that field and play with other people that aren't
the quarterback and the coach. You've got to make that
whole entire engine work, you know, like a Ford engine
where the piston's got to be talking to the gas tank.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, I think that it's kind of
a cliche, but it's really true that you know, football
is really the ultimate team sport that no guy can
do it by himself. That some are more important than others,
but the coach and the quarterback are the two most
important pieces of any team, especially championship teams. And the
trust that Brandan Belchick built in each other early in
their relationship carried them through two decades and through some
rough periods where if they didn't already have such a
strong bond professionally, it would have broken them apart as
a was it took twenty years for that to happen,
So that's really a testament to who they are as individuals,
any personal differences they might have had, and I think
that did start to develop seven eight years into their relationship.
I think there was already such a foundation there that
it was it was able to withstand Spygade and losing
that game to the Giants and the David Tyree catch
and going ten years without winning Super Bowls. I mean
that could have broken up any other relationship that wasn't
built on such a strong foundation.
Speaker 1: What's so fascinating about this And I think my connection
with Brady versus Belichick, the dynasty debate is because it's
continuing to live even in my life here in Carolina,
because we've got Belichick, who's over there with the Tar
Hills every Sunday, I've got Tom Brady on my Fox
Sports the coach of our team was once one of
the leaders of Tom Brady when he was down there
in Florida. And so this is a continuation. And what
this does, this gives me a clear path of how
I'm in my moment of now there was something that happened,
and you really clear up that picture.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you saying that. And you know the
great thing about this is there's really no right opinion.
It's just you have an opinion. Some people might say,
you know, Belichick is the greatest coach of all time
and he made Brady, or some people who can say, well,
Brady turned out to be the greatest quarterback of all time,
and Belichick would have been nothing without him, because he
didn't succeed before or after without him. That's what makes
us really fascinating is that you can argue for either
one of them. I took ultimately I sided with the
Brady argument in my book. But if somebody said to me,
I need you to write a book and come to
the conclusion that it's Belichick, I would have had plenty
of ammunition to say it was Belichick. It wasn't wouldn't
have been what I believed, And I probably wouldn't have
written that book if I didn't believe in it. But
I'm just saying they both was so good and accomplished
so much that you could have presented the argument either way.
Speaker 1: See, because in the same situation, I find myself asking
the question about, all right, who who wins when it
comes to the Chicago Bulls. Is it Michael Jordan or
is it the coach? I think it's Michael Jordan and
and you know everybody else on the team and then
here comes the coach. But you've got to have that
coach to keep that gail together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would agree that, you know, Phil
Jackson was really fundamental fixed Championships. But you know, would
Phil have won without Jordan and Pippen? Would he have
won in LA without Kobe and Shaq? I don't. I
don't think so. I don't think the great coach overcomes
not having great players, but I think the great players
can overcome not having like the greatest coach of all time.
So it's such a fascinating argument and dynamic.
Speaker 1: Wow, I just love what you're doing because you're giving
this a better picture as sports fans, and you're also
just bringing everything together. Where can people go to find
out more about you, Gary, because I love where your
heart is when it comes to sharing sports.
Speaker 2: Well, they can follow me on Twitter if they want,
Gary Myers, M Y E R S N Y So
Gary Myers, New York, or you know, to get my books,
not just not only this book, but all the books
I've written, you know, got to Amazon, and this book
Brady Versus Belichick goes on sale, you know, Tuesday, tomorrow,
September sixteenth, So I hope you know people are into
the subject and want to learn more about it, and
I appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 1: Well, I bet you Fox Sports is all over this
because you know they Terry Bradshaw is going to be
all over this book, and I hope that he really
does start dropping some good plugs here.
Speaker 2: Well, that'd be nice if you know, Terry, gim McCall
and tell him that.
Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay,