1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Dental Pros of Utah is located in American Fork at 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,759 one ninety eight South eleven hundred East. Dental Pros is 3 00:00:05,799 --> 00:00:08,599 a proud sponsor of Cougar Sports with Ben Crittle, Go 4 00:00:08,679 --> 00:00:12,160 Cougar's This is Cougar Sports with Ben Krittle at It's 5 00:00:12,199 --> 00:00:14,679 time for the Cougar Beat. Getting the dish from the 6 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:17,399 local reporters that covered Cougar athletics. 7 00:00:18,359 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cougar Sports here on one O, three, 8 00:00:20,199 --> 00:00:22,839 nine and ninety eight three esp and the fan Ronald 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,039 the three man Weaver. We salute Brett always bringing the 10 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:28,039 hammer a farewell he has taken off. 11 00:00:28,039 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: Appreciate Brett joining us. 12 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: Just a reminder as we get into the last hour 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,479 here on your one to three, nine and ninety eight 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,439 three network, you ta ESPN, RADED Network that Ben is 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,920 going to be back tomorrow. We appreciate everyone that's been 16 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,560 showing up and showing out. We have had a great cast, 17 00:00:42,799 --> 00:00:44,719 the likes of Matt Brown of Extra Points dot Com. 18 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:47,719 We played the Colonies of Hockey sound from media availability 19 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:48,840 as well as Andrew Gentry. 20 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: I think that's funny that you know he ran into 21 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:53,479 j Hill at the airport. I think the guy actually 22 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,479 who we're going to have on the line. 23 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: He actually asked him, you know, the question about the 24 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,920 full circle moment of Michigan and all that and Kyle Whitningham. 25 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,520 That was pretty crazy. But I don't know, I just 26 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,319 feel like the old is community small. I feel like 27 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,719 this whole Michigan Utah BYU thing Andrew Gentry running into 28 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:11,079 you know, Jay Hill at the airport, like this is 29 00:01:11,079 --> 00:01:12,599 the that's the way it goes. I don't have a 30 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:15,400 small airport from Chicago, but I can tell you that 31 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,120 after being there, and it's pretty interesting that everybody said 32 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,439 that the lines are going to be long. And I 33 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:22,519 walked right into Terminal five Delta on Sunday at six 34 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,439 o'clock and my flight boarded at six thirty, and maybe 35 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,879 I'm just blessed and there was no line and I 36 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,760 walked straight through. I've gotten through security going to and 37 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,040 from Chicago within less than ten minutes. I can tell 38 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:34,200 you that it was probably somewhere between the six of 39 00:01:34,239 --> 00:01:36,560 the seven minute mark. So I guess I'm just blessed. 40 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:37,879 But you know, all you can be blessed. You can 41 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:40,560 be blessed because I'm gonna give you an opportunity to 42 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,120 get some tickets. Wu Tank Klang is coming to Utah 43 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,760 First Credit Union Amphitheater September twenty ninth. You don't want 44 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,719 to miss your chance to see the hip hop legends 45 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,439 take the stage again. Listen to Espen the Fan all 46 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,000 week long. 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Jay, thanks for joining us today. 76 00:02:55,319 --> 00:02:56,719 Speaker 4: My pleasure is great to be on. 77 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:57,599 Speaker 3: Of course. 78 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I gotta have the with this beautiful weather, 79 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:03,120 this beautiful Tuesday, March twenty fourth, I got to have 80 00:03:03,159 --> 00:03:05,080 the best golfer in the state of Utah that covers 81 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,400 the BYU beat on. 82 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,479 Speaker 3: Have you golf today? Do you got anything planned? 83 00:03:09,479 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: I know you were looking around the sky yesterday, smile 84 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:13,360 and I already talked about a little trip. 85 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: I know you're planning some golf stuff, Jay. Yeah. 86 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: I had a company meeting today, so I wasn't able 87 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,120 to get out. Then I had a project due that 88 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:25,560 I just wrapped up kind of a BYU basketball season rap, 89 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,599 okay article that I did, But yeah, I'm gonna try 90 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,439 to get out tomorrow. It's you just this weather right now. 91 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:34,199 You cannot pass it up. That's for sure. 92 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:34,879 Speaker 3: I agree with it. 93 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:37,199 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of a beautiful walk and maybe some ice 94 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,080 cream with the little one. 95 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:40,479 Speaker 3: You're not wrong. You can't beat this weather, no doubt 96 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:40,840 about it. 97 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: You said BYU basketball season recap, you were out there. 98 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,199 Speaker 3: I believe it was in Portland. Take us through. 99 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: Fans are going to say heartbreaking last summer, call it 100 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:53,360 the most disappointing season in BYU history. That's all left 101 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:55,680 up there for debate. But how would you recap the 102 00:03:55,719 --> 00:03:56,479 season as a whole. 103 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's so many ways to describe it, 104 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,960 up and down. Rocky, it's the word AJ used, disappointing. 105 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:09,919 I don't. I I saw where some media outlets have 106 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,919 called it a waste of a season. I think that's 107 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:14,080 way too harsh. I think you can say it was 108 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:19,759 unsatisfying or disappointing. But I mean they still, you know, 109 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:23,199 they still did some amazing things, obviously centered around AJ 110 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:27,600 Debonca and everything that he did. I was just thinking though, 111 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,279 if you'd told me at the start of the season, 112 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,160 if you'd say, Aj Debonsa is going to maintain his status, 113 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,319 is the number one pick in the draft. AJ Debuonca 114 00:04:37,439 --> 00:04:40,839 is going to lead the country in scoring. AJ Debonsa 115 00:04:40,959 --> 00:04:42,839 is going to be a candidate for National Player of 116 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:46,360 the Year. Aj Debonsa is going to be a consensus 117 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,439 ap all our consensus, all American ap A Smith, all 118 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,160 the different ones that put one out. I would have 119 00:04:54,199 --> 00:04:57,319 said by used final four. I honestly would have if 120 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,839 you had just told me what Aj was going to accomplish. 121 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:04,639 So he accomplished all that. So I got to say, 122 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,319 in that realm, you have got to say that this 123 00:05:07,519 --> 00:05:12,720 was a wildly successful season. Maybe not imediately, maybe ten 124 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,199 years down down the road, when when you look back 125 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,439 at this season and say Aj debounce has changed BYU basketball. 126 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:24,600 And so in that aspect, I've got to say that 127 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,560 it was a successful season. Now, because of the expectations, 128 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:32,920 the anticipation everything, the Final four or bust, all the 129 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:36,079 logan slogans that were out there. Because of all that, 130 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,839 I will I will admit this was a disappointing season. 131 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,240 Because of those expectations, but I think if you dig 132 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,360 a little deeper, I think a lot was gleaned from 133 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,199 this season that will really help BYU in the future, 134 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,879 that will really set this program up to succeed. We've 135 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,319 already seen it with Bruce Branch committing to play for BYU, 136 00:05:56,399 --> 00:06:01,000 a five star prospect, and and but I just think, 137 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,199 you know, to call it a waste is really way, way, 138 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,680 way too harsh. To say it was not satisfactory. Yeah, 139 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,160 you can go there, but that's kind of where I 140 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,839 stand on it. If that makes sense, it does. 141 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I don't think I'm in the 142 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,240 conversation of waste. I can hear disappointment. I'll say that 143 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,319 even there are disappointing moments. I think that's fair. That's 144 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,800 on the table. But you just gave all the reasons 145 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,360 of why it wasn't. And we've heard Jason Mcat how 146 00:06:25,439 --> 00:06:27,319 we played that sound. A lot of people are saying 147 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,160 that it wasn't. You know, the numbers of the nial 148 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,800 of influx of all this, they're saying to be why 149 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:35,480 you get the best return on investment, and it is 150 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,399 Bruce Branch. The third is that the return on investment, 151 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,439 because we've seen it now right, number one year old, 152 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:44,120 number one high school, number one jugal now have committed 153 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,480 to be all you. Kj's play, kJ, Perry's youet to play. 154 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:49,319 We're expecting anticipating him to play next season. But if 155 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:51,920 Age's number one pick yiggor was a lottery pick last year, 156 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:56,600 top ten, it's just Bruce Branch commits five three five 157 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,120 stars in the last three years. To me, I think 158 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:02,079 that's what quality and if that is. And I don't 159 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:04,759 know what the national media wants. 160 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:07,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, I mean I don't think the national media 161 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:13,839 understands how AJ embraced this community and how in a way, 162 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:17,120 if AJ had not had a good experience at b YU, 163 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,040 if it had gone sour for whatever reason, it would 164 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,720 have been kind of disastrous for BYU. But the opposite happened. 165 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,240 He embraced the place. Everybody loved him, He loved BYU. 166 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:34,360 And he said that from the podium after the Texas loss, 167 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,319 when he easily could have been discouraged or sad and 168 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:43,439 you know, vented some frustration. Instead, he basically said what 169 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,959 was really in his heart and on his mind. And 170 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,079 so yeah, I when people talk about return on investment, 171 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,079 I mean, look at the Merihit Center's been packed. Look 172 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,560 at the schedule they were able to put together only 173 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,120 because of AJ schedule that I don't think non conference 174 00:07:58,199 --> 00:08:01,360 schedule that will ever be duplicated because they just do 175 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:04,000 not have that type of guy that did say hey 176 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,160 we want you know. I mean the fact that they 177 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,759 were put in primetime, that Texas game up primetime when 178 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:12,160 all the other games were going on. That's the game 179 00:08:12,199 --> 00:08:16,000 that CBS, TBS, all the stations chose to put in 180 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:19,519 primetime in the East. And it was because of AJ 181 00:08:19,639 --> 00:08:22,920 DEBATSA even over Duke all the other teams that were 182 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,279 playing that day. So yeah, I think I think BYU, 183 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:28,600 I think it was worth every penny and then some. 184 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:31,279 I mean, I think he was worth millions more to 185 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,799 BYU in the big picture. 186 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:33,799 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 187 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: I think when you look back on it five ten 188 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:37,879 years down the line, you just said, Agy debonds have 189 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,159 changed to bye to have a player like that Jay. 190 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,200 And look, you've covered BYU way longer than anyone else. 191 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,120 You've been doing this this beat a long time. This 192 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,440 is the first time we've seen a player of that caliber. 193 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,159 From everything I've heard in my short time covering come 194 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,440 to BYU be this successful elevate the program and probably 195 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,840 a change Biu's trajectory as long as Kevin Young is here, 196 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,000 probably for you know, all time and eternity. I hate 197 00:09:03,039 --> 00:09:04,679 to go like spiritual and say that, but I believe 198 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,480 as long as Kevin Young c if AG is the 199 00:09:06,519 --> 00:09:09,200 number one pick J, the floodgates are just going to open, 200 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,000 like BYU is gonna get I shouldn't say whatever they want, 201 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,759 but the high level talent is going to be like 202 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:16,080 BYU's the spot that I can be in, especially if 203 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,080 they the right cultural fit. 204 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:22,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly. Kevin always uses the phrase proof of concept 205 00:09:23,159 --> 00:09:25,159 and the next time he goes into a home. You know, 206 00:09:25,399 --> 00:09:27,559 obviously with Bruce Bratt, she's already done it. But the 207 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,559 next time he, I mean, AJ Debonca is proven of 208 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:34,639 concept if there ever was such a thing. The fact 209 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,279 that you know, I mean, as of right now, it 210 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:39,200 looks like all the momentum is in his favor to 211 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,360 be the number one pick. And I mean that's all 212 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:44,600 he could ask for, you know, when Kevin Young recruited 213 00:09:44,639 --> 00:09:47,399 him to BYU, and I mean, what more could you 214 00:09:47,399 --> 00:09:49,320 ask for? Of course, they're not going to promise that 215 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,600 you're going to win a national championship and all that 216 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,279 other stuff. But the one thing that they could promise 217 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,919 him was that he would develop and he would be 218 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,919 an NBA, you know, top three pick, which he's certainly 219 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,440 gonna be. So AJ delivered on his promise, and Kevin 220 00:10:04,519 --> 00:10:08,360 Young and Byu delivered on there. So win win, I mean, 221 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,480 I know they didn't get a win in the NCAA tournament, 222 00:10:10,519 --> 00:10:13,279 but win, win all the way around, and on almost 223 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,000 every other aspect that you look at. 224 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,879 Speaker 2: Win, win all the way around. A lot of people 225 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:19,759 are gonna be happy. And he gave fans the season that. 226 00:10:19,879 --> 00:10:23,200 I mean, you drop forty on Utah forty point triple 227 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:25,799 double baptisms highlights. 228 00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: I mean, look, you're gonna. 229 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: Look back and be like, yeah, the return on investment 230 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,200 was there. Let's discuss the future though we know what 231 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,120 AJ is gonna do the rest of this roster. Where 232 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,639 do they go from here? Your counterpart, Jackson Pain has said, 233 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,799 back to the basket big. It seems like they're missing 234 00:10:40,799 --> 00:10:42,879 that k Baketa was great. I don't know if I 235 00:10:42,919 --> 00:10:45,279 agree with the be too experiment how that worked. Maybe 236 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,519 he doesn't need another year development. I'll be happy to 237 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,720 eat crow if I'm wrong, but you look at the 238 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,440 schools that are competing, even like a Tuggler with Houston, 239 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,399 you gotta even need a freak defensive guy, a guy 240 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,039 that can post up because it just it seems like 241 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,879 the bigs, you know, let him down and it was 242 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,879 to injury a little bit this season as well. 243 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they definitely need. Kevin said they needed 244 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:12,200 a more rugged player, more rugged inside players. Kevicaida had 245 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,720 a good career. He was slightly undersized and you know, 246 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:19,440 otherworldly athletic as everybody saw. He could jump out of 247 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,919 the gym, but he he had some liabilities offensively, He 248 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:27,919 couldn't shoot free throws very well. But most importantly, he 249 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,000 was not a low post scorer other than on lobs. 250 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,919 He cannot catch the ball with his back to the 251 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,360 basket and make a move and score like Foos could 252 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:39,559 a year ago, even despite being as undersized as he was. 253 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,279 So yeah, I agree. Kevin Young said it several times 254 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:48,159 the other night after the Texas lost the Holy Grail, 255 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,440 and college basketball is shooting and they need shooters. And 256 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,039 if you look at March Madness, you look at all 257 00:11:53,039 --> 00:11:55,440 these teams that are advancing, they're the teams that most 258 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,919 of them can hit the three pointer consistently, and byu, 259 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,080 especially when Nitchie went down, But even before that, they 260 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,639 were showing cracks did not make shots. They did not 261 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:11,240 have consistent shot makers from the outside. Alexa came in 262 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,240 and helped him a little bit in that regard, but 263 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,559 he was wildly inconsistent. So I would say those two 264 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,000 things they need. They needed shot makers, and they need, 265 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:24,039 like Jackson said, a big, burly kind of a low 266 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,000 post score with some rebounding skills. I personally, I think 267 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,840 they had to keep Beato. I don't know what they're 268 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:33,000 paying him. It's obviously quite a bit if they got 269 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:36,799 him out of the G League, But personally, I think 270 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:39,559 you keep him because not of the starting center. I 271 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,279 don't think he was a starter in a Power Flour 272 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,320 conference on a Power four conference team, But I think 273 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,000 he's a good enough rim protector and guy down there 274 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,919 that can swallow up some minutes, take up some fouls 275 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,039 that you maybe keep him if he's guy, if the 276 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:59,240 value is right for both sides. But certainly they need 277 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,919 to get a guy that can score down low on 278 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,759 a consistent basis, and obviously they didn't have that this year. 279 00:13:06,159 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 3: They didn't. 280 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: I brought up the conversation of you know, could Ali 281 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,879 Khalifa helped the team? 282 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: Now? 283 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: I know Ali, His game shape readiness is different at 284 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,799 Louisville than it was at BYU. But when he was 285 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,919 on a hitting threes, it really stretched a defense. So 286 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,200 we'll see what they do in the offseason. How much 287 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:23,080 roster turnover do you expect, though, because the guys on 288 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,960 this roster didn't perform, I have to assume that Kevin 289 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,720 and the players themselves are going to probably look at 290 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,840 what's the best for them too. I think he said 291 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,279 it's not just us, it's what do other players want 292 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:35,440 to do. How much roster attrition do you expect going 293 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,679 into the next season. 294 00:13:38,279 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I was looking at it. They lose 295 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,120 for five guys if you count aj for sure, then 296 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,120 so that brings eleven guys on the roster right now 297 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,799 or eligible come back, including kJ Perry the junior college transfer, 298 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,000 and Dawson Baker and Nate Pick and some other guys 299 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,120 that are maybe questionable because of the injuries. I think 300 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,559 of that group of eleven, I think six come back 301 00:14:03,919 --> 00:14:07,840 or six or seven ish in that range. So I 302 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,440 don't you know they don't have. I don't think the 303 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:13,320 turnover is going to be huge like some schools and 304 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,320 the whole rosters turned over, but yeah, I think it's 305 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,320 going to be significant. I think I think some guys 306 00:14:19,399 --> 00:14:21,840 are going to be showing the door basically, you know, 307 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,879 pat on the back, thanks for what you did, but 308 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,559 you just basically don't provide enough value. And that's what 309 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,720 it's all about in this day and age of nil 310 00:14:29,799 --> 00:14:33,039 and rev sharing is is the player's got to provide 311 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,039 value the value that you're paying him. And some of 312 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:39,399 these guys frankly don't want to name names, but just 313 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:42,759 did not this year, and that was one of the 314 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:45,720 reasons for the kind of why the season collapsed a 315 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:48,679 little bit is I think they overvalued some of these 316 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,039 guys out of the transfer portal that got him in here, 317 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,759 and then they just the talent evaluation was off. These 318 00:14:55,799 --> 00:14:57,879 guys were not as good as they were supposed to 319 00:14:57,879 --> 00:15:01,240 be and and wouldn't be why you suffered a few 320 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:03,159 injuries and they were in a major hole. 321 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you bring up a good point. 322 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,399 Speaker 2: Whatever the resources allocated to the guys were, it doesn't 323 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,399 matter at this point the season's over. But even then, 324 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,000 it didn't get the return on investment like it did 325 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,080 with other things. I think you did see some stuff 326 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,679 down the stretch from obviously Alexi coach Cunard. 327 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: I think Dominique's defense. 328 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: There's there's a couple of guys who I think if 329 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,519 they wanted to come back, you know, might have their place. 330 00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: But we'll see. 331 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: I don't know who it will be, but the name 332 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,200 that has been flowing out there. Kevin was pretty declarative 333 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,639 in the post game, and we know Kevin Young doesn't 334 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:35,320 say anything Jay that he doesn't want to say. He 335 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,159 says that to your point about shooting more shooting around 336 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,080 Rob Wright, I was like, oh wow, did that conversation 337 00:15:40,159 --> 00:15:42,919 already happen? You know, is he anticipating that? But more 338 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,200 shooting around Rob right? Is if Rob Wright's gonna come 339 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,159 back now he told you. You know, when you're at 340 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,200 the Big Tel Tournament, it's either by you or pro 341 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,240 there's no in between, go to another school. So it's 342 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,759 either Rob Wright comes back for one more year. He's 343 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:57,360 taken off the go start his professional career. Do you 344 00:15:57,399 --> 00:15:59,799 believe Rob Wright comes back for once one more season? 345 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: B YU, Yeah, I do, I really do. I believe 346 00:16:04,559 --> 00:16:07,399 based on what Kevin. Kevin said of building the roster 347 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,399 around Rob Wright, Uh, with shooters, based on that, based 348 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,799 on what Rob told me. There's a few other signs. 349 00:16:16,759 --> 00:16:23,080 We've just Rob's done something for Coasta Vita. It's been 350 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,440 out there. I think that's pretty much a local Utah restaurant, 351 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:29,759 So I doubt they would be, you know, putting all 352 00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:33,519 these commercials out there if and all that, if Rob 353 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:36,759 was was leaving, so all those things stacked up kind 354 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:39,519 of lead me to believe that, yes, he is staying. 355 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,519 And Uh. And you know, let's one of the things 356 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:46,039 you guys have probably talked about ad on him on 357 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,759 your show is that these guys can make more money 358 00:16:48,799 --> 00:16:52,840 in college nowadays than they can in the NBA, you know, 359 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,600 especially if you're not a first round NBA draft pick, 360 00:16:56,159 --> 00:16:59,799 and Rob almost certainly wouldn't be. So, yeah, he can 361 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,200 make I don't know what he's making. I'm assuming it's 362 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,359 you know, it's well above a million dollars a year, 363 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,079 and he frankly could not make that in professional basketball NBA, 364 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,519 Europe anywhere. So it would you know, financially, it just 365 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,440 would be if he's going to stay in call, if 366 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,200 he's not going to you know, go to the pros. 367 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,240 It would be really behoove himself to stay at BYU. Yeah, 368 00:17:25,519 --> 00:17:26,559 in college in particular. 369 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not wrong. And I think he likes BYU. 370 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: And I look, I know this is how it is 371 00:17:31,559 --> 00:17:33,680 when you look at Rob and this is what you know. 372 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:36,279 Sometimes it looks like on the court maybe I know 373 00:17:36,319 --> 00:17:38,720 people say the body language. He's just a very mellow guy, 374 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:41,519 so it looks like, oh, he might not like it. 375 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:44,079 But when he's at the women's basketball game last night 376 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,920 and watching at the WBI T and he's with Tyler, 377 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,599 he's with Xavion, he likes it here in Provo. He 378 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,960 likes the fans, like taking pictures with people, dabbing people up. 379 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,359 But sometimes you know, when you're calm, cool and collected 380 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,480 and laid back, it doesn't get that vibe. But I 381 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,240 think Robin Joyce's time in Provo from what I'm seeing. 382 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I never I haven't had a really 383 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,119 a one on one conversation with Rob since mid January 384 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,359 by on phone, other than the little time we had 385 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,839 after he lost his tooth in Kansas City. But I've 386 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,200 asked him several times how with it going, you know, 387 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:20,599 as a double minority and all that in provo and 388 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:24,000 every time he's just said he loves it, loves the 389 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,079 kind of laid back nature of the place. He's okay, 390 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,440 kind of what he called being in a fish bowl 391 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:32,559 where everybody recognizes you. He said that was something he 392 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:36,799 had to get used to. But yeah, he's never said 393 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,880 anything remotely negative in my conversations with him about about 394 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:42,640 being at BYU. 395 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: This is going to be He's gonna be a big 396 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,920 part of the offense if he comes back. I remember 397 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,559 talking to Jordan Brady in the off season and Jordan 398 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,279 straight up said, hey, we expect him to have a 399 00:18:50,319 --> 00:18:51,599 big year and improving. 400 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: He did. 401 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,799 Speaker 2: He had career highs I think in a lot of things. 402 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:57,279 So I'm not surprised that Kevin Young wants to bring 403 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,039 him back. If that would be the case, j We'll 404 00:18:59,039 --> 00:18:59,480 get you out of. 405 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: Here on this. How does that coexist? 406 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: I guess with you know, the kJ Perrys of the world, 407 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,000 because you have to think with kJ Perry, Dawson, Nate 408 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,559 rob that's I love all those guards. When you look 409 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:10,440 at what their skill set brings. How do you get 410 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,799 the chemistry and make it co exist? 411 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, that's gonna be a big, a big task 412 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,720 for Kevin and his staff. Of those four guys you mentioned, 413 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,759 I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they lose one of 414 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:27,119 those guys, gotcha, because of what you just said. How 415 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,960 you know, there's only a certain amount of minutes that. 416 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:32,279 Speaker 3: Go along, so much ball to go around, Jay, right, You. 417 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,799 Speaker 4: Know Dawson can play the two a little bit, and yeah, 418 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,920 other positions, he doesn't necessarily need to have the ball 419 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,799 in his hands a lot like like we know that 420 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,759 Rob does. So it'll be interesting to see it. 421 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: Definitely will be interesting to see Jay. Before I'll let 422 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,359 you go, appreciate you joining us today. What's the best 423 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,440 way we can support you? What you do, how you 424 00:19:50,519 --> 00:19:52,480 do it? Where the socials? Where's the website? 425 00:19:53,759 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm on mostly on ax at Drew ju and 426 00:19:58,039 --> 00:20:02,440 then on our website Deseret Dot, Calm, Backslash BYU Sports 427 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,960 you can find all my coverage Jackson Pain, Dick Harmon, 428 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:09,279 Dave McCann. The list goes on and on. Now we 429 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,119 try to cover BYU as best as we possibly can. 430 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,599 Speaker 3: Well, you guys do a good job. 431 00:20:13,599 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: The only thing I'm gonna make sure I tell Brett 432 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,359 Kenny and all of that none of you four can be. 433 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,079 Speaker 3: On the golf team. 434 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,799 Speaker 2: That is not okay, all those names you mentioned, We 435 00:20:22,839 --> 00:20:25,200 will get smoked in June if all of you are 436 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,599 allowed to be on the same team. 437 00:20:27,319 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 4: We're gearing up. I'm throwing out that throwing this out 438 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,880 right now, we are gearing out. 439 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:35,279 Speaker 3: I do see every year the Desert dudes just comes in. 440 00:20:35,319 --> 00:20:36,119 It takes about it. 441 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,039 Speaker 2: Don't think I've never surprised y'all got some good dudes 442 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:40,279 that could golf. But you know, make some room for 443 00:20:40,319 --> 00:20:41,839 you know, the three man weave. You know, you need 444 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,359 a little bit of a you need a little bit 445 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,119 of flavor. I can stand out like Rob right in 446 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,440 the group. You know, I can stand out, you know, 447 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,559 a little bit o kJ appreciate your time today. We'll 448 00:20:50,599 --> 00:20:50,880 let you go. 449 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining you, bet Ronnie, thanks for having me on. 450 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,319 Speaker 3: Of course I was Jay Drew of the Desert News 451 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:55,960 and the Cougar Bead. 452 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate Jajo and I had to throw that little joke 453 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,319 there at the and hey, look I got I got 454 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:00,839 a little bit of flavor. I got some good here. 455 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,720 I got some good melanin in the skin. You know, 456 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,279 I'm a little bit of a vibe so come join me. 457 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,839 Come join me, but you need to join the Audion 458 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,119 Men's where get yourself and elevate suit today. 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