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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW this Tuesday evening,

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty sixth, Thanksgiving Week, one of my favorite weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of the year and something special to tout to promote

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of tonight's show is going on this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend at Heritage Fellowship Church in Florence to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill McGrain, Linda McGrain, and their special speaker this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>who is here to help you with the power of

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<v Speaker 1>God and the Holy Spirit, And let's get right to it. Guys. Hello, Bill, Hello, Linda,

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Alex Hello, Hello here all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to have you be a part of this, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're excited to share with you and your audience the

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<v Speaker 2>Kingdom Life Beyond Imagination Conference Expand your Health, Wealth and Relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be at Heritage Fellowship Church in Florence, Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday, November twenty ninth, in the evening at seven

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen and.

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday all day from nine to five.

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<v Speaker 2>Where doctor Alex Lloyd will be the primary speaker sharing

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<v Speaker 2>about how people can get to the real healing of

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<v Speaker 2>the root issues in minutes, whether it be health, wealth

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<v Speaker 2>or relationships. And then in the afternoon, Linda and I

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<v Speaker 2>will be doing the Three Keys to Troubleshoot your marriage

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<v Speaker 2>to take it to the next level. However, what we'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to do is to give doctor Alex Lloyd because

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<v Speaker 2>he's our feature speaker. Maybe Linda, why don't you just

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<v Speaker 2>introduce him because you have a great intro for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just that's a Lloyd has been in our

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<v Speaker 3>life through a God connection, and he has made not

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<v Speaker 3>only everything that we do, but everything that we give

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<v Speaker 3>to everybody else just extential, just beyond measure really in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of being able to flow in the space and

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to be all we were made to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be for God.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm turning it over to doctor Alex Lloyd.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thank Linda, Thanks Bill, and I'm honored to be

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<v Speaker 5>here and I can't wait to get to Cincinnati, except

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<v Speaker 5>I'm torn because Thanksgiving is one of my favorite times

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<v Speaker 5>of the year too. But we're gonna celebrate it here

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<v Speaker 5>in Nashville and then come to Cincinnati. And if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 5>I really hope you can make it. Everything is free.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe it's being live stream for free as well.

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<v Speaker 5>And just to briefly tell you what I'm going to share,

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<v Speaker 5>my wife and I Hope had been married thirty eight years,

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<v Speaker 5>and after about a year and a half we started

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<v Speaker 5>having severe marriage problems. And part of it was that

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<v Speaker 5>I was an idiot, and the other part was that

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<v Speaker 5>my wife, Hope, we found out after business three doctors,

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<v Speaker 5>was clinically depressed and we tried everything, we did, all

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<v Speaker 5>the medications. I was in ministry at the time, full

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<v Speaker 5>time ministry, so I didn't know anything about health.

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<v Speaker 6>And we.

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<v Speaker 5>Tried medications for about three years, and they did not

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't help her. In fact, some of the side

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<v Speaker 5>effects were worse than the depression. So I went back

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<v Speaker 5>to graduate school, uh, not as a career path, but

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<v Speaker 5>to try to find something that could help my wife.

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<v Speaker 5>And to me, what it boils down to, we all

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<v Speaker 5>know we want love, we want health, we want success

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<v Speaker 5>whatever that is for me from God. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's different for every person. Their their success is not

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily millions of dollars, but internal love, joy, peace and

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<v Speaker 5>being right with the Lord and other people. And to me,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a couple of scriptures. One guard your heart above

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<v Speaker 5>everything else, for from it flows the issues of life and.

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<v Speaker 4>The heart of the spiritual heart, which.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe psychology kind of calls the unconscious and subconscious.

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<v Speaker 5>That's where love is, but it's also where fear and

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<v Speaker 5>selfishness comes from. Genesis, I believe four or six says

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<v Speaker 5>the heart of man is inclined toward evil from his youth.

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<v Speaker 5>So I discovered a process that's not counseling or talk therapy,

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<v Speaker 5>takes about five or six minutes to do that can

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<v Speaker 5>go into your unconscious mind and find memories that are

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<v Speaker 5>resonating a stress, fear, anger, selfishness signal and neutralize that signal.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's twenty six double blind studies from universities published

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<v Speaker 5>in Purview journals about this technique and nothing else, and

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<v Speaker 5>they've all found that it works for everything from cancer

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<v Speaker 5>to depression and anxiety and all. So UH, this has

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<v Speaker 5>been a dream of mine. I've been a for profit

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<v Speaker 5>business ever since then, and my wife, Hope, has not

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<v Speaker 5>been depressed in a long time now. But I've wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to do nonprofit because that's that's where my heart is,

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<v Speaker 5>that's where I came from. So I'm so excited that

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<v Speaker 5>Heritage is giving me the honor of doing this UH

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<v Speaker 5>in Cincinnati this weekend, and I just can't wait to

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<v Speaker 5>get there now.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Lloyd. I'm going to keep well ahead. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we don't have a lot of time. Go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead with what you're going to say, Bill, I would well.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to let people know that this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in Florence, Kentucky, not in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Heritage Fellowship Church in Florence, Kentucky, which is

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<v Speaker 2>close to Cincinnati. And one of the exciting things is

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<v Speaker 2>is that this is going to get people an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>that when they register for free online, what they do

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<v Speaker 2>is they go to mgrain dot com, mc grne dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>That's mc grn e dot com. And when they get

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<v Speaker 2>on that page, they're going to see a Kingdom life picture.

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<v Speaker 2>They click on that and then they register for free

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<v Speaker 2>for the event. When they register for free, they will

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<v Speaker 2>get an email that in doctor Lloyd is making available

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollars value of being able to identify your

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<v Speaker 2>true It's called the True You Test, and it's free

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<v Speaker 2>and you take it and it identifies what the issues

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<v Speaker 2>of your heart are. And then there are some printouts

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<v Speaker 2>that they'll want to take with them if they're coming

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<v Speaker 2>live to the event and if people can't attend live

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<v Speaker 2>on the event, you will be getting an email giving

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<v Speaker 2>you the link that you can watch on stream wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you are.

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<v Speaker 1>So once again give your address, We've got time for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and give the event dates.

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<v Speaker 2>So again the it's a Heritage Fellowship Church Friday, November

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty ninth, seven fourteen pm and Saturday all day

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<v Speaker 2>from nine am to five pm at Heritage Fellowship Church

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<v Speaker 2>in Florence, Kentucky. And the way that they can register

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<v Speaker 2>it's free. They can register at McGrain dot com, mc

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<v Speaker 2>gran e dot com. Look for the picture that says

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<v Speaker 2>Kingdom Life, click on that and then you can register

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<v Speaker 2>your name and email and you'll receive an email with

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<v Speaker 2>all the instructions and details that they need.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic and the true you test there as well from

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Lloyd. Have a blessed Thanksgiving y'all, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that wants to take it out there to Herds

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<v Speaker 1>Fellowship Church in Florence seven fourteen Friday evening and then

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<v Speaker 1>all day on Saturday. Thank you so much and God

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<v Speaker 1>bless you all.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, God, blank you you bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Hatter coming up next.

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<v Speaker 7>It would suck if I was in a coma because

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<v Speaker 7>I'd miss Mike McConnell.

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<v Speaker 8>If you were in a coma, you probably wouldn't care

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<v Speaker 8>about the weather and traffic.

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<v Speaker 5>But he'd missed the news and sports and the investment

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<v Speaker 5>news and all those McConnell last.

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<v Speaker 4>Starting your day getting the latest word and a healthy

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<v Speaker 4>dose of my infects you is Mike mcconnald's charm makes

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<v Speaker 4>you feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>No coma's for me. I want McConnell, So tune in

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<v Speaker 1>and get the goodness you deserve.

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<v Speaker 6>Coma free is.

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<v Speaker 1>The way to be if you love Mike McConnell.

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<v Speaker 9>Mike McConnell. Tomorrow morning, get by on seven hundred wl W.

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<v Speaker 10>We'll hear the radio ads about the irs. They tell

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<v Speaker 10>you to be afraid to be scared, and they try

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<v Speaker 10>to frighten you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the Nightcap as we go a full three

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<v Speaker 1>hours tonight. Dave Hatter is joining us for this segment,

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<v Speaker 1>Tech Cook, our high tech guru, the guy with the

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<v Speaker 1>aluminum foil hatch so the can't read his thoughts. First

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<v Speaker 1>and foremost, Dave Hatter, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing good, Gary, Jeff, but I'm a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>worried about the NSA than the aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you. You know, well, they're working together.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you watch the History channel?

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<v Speaker 4>Could could be yes, ancient aliens. I love that guy,

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<v Speaker 4>the guy with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair, the Greek guy with the hair. Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't pronounce his name. There's a story you sent

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<v Speaker 1>me about a Google AI chatbot that responded with a

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<v Speaker 1>threatening message. It was simply human, please die. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>expect more of this from AI? This is what this

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<v Speaker 1>is my deepest, darkest fears. Is there the robots are

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<v Speaker 1>out to kill us?

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<v Speaker 4>Dave?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it true?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Gary, Jeff, I don't. I don't think we

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<v Speaker 4>have to worry about Skynett becoming aware and send the

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<v Speaker 4>terminators to wipe us out at the time too. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is just a perfect example of how

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<v Speaker 4>these tools have not really lived up to their promise

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<v Speaker 4>so far. You know, in the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been an enormous amount of hype and her hyperbole

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<v Speaker 4>around AI, Generative AI in particular, which is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>And while I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to dismiss the fact that these tools, when when

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<v Speaker 4>you understand what they can and can't do, can give

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<v Speaker 4>you an enormous productivity boost. You know, they have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of problems, and I think one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>why the bloom is off the roads to an extent

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<v Speaker 4>with these tools is because people are starting to see that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they just hallucinate, They make things up from

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<v Speaker 4>whole cloth, They do crazy stuff like this. And while

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<v Speaker 4>they've come a long way since the days of Tay,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you remember ta Microsoft rolled out

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<v Speaker 4>a chatbot on Twitter back in around twenty sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 4>within twenty four hours it just went completely off the

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<v Speaker 4>rails and they shut it down. It was saying all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>While these newer platforms have supposedly built in all kinds

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<v Speaker 4>of guardrails to keep you from getting information they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>want you to have and to prevent this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they still occasionally fail. So yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>you'll see more of it, you know. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>it's any reason to be alarmed. My personal opinion, based

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<v Speaker 4>on what I know, is that these generative AI tools

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<v Speaker 4>like chat, GPT and Jimini and rock from X and

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<v Speaker 4>others are nowhere close to being sentient or super intelligent

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<v Speaker 4>you know, again, I think the bloom is somewhat off

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of it is hyped.

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<v Speaker 1>So it shouldn't be worried if my AI is telling

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<v Speaker 1>me to die, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Think so, Garriage, if I would just laugh and keep going,

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<v Speaker 4>because at this point, you know, they have no agency.

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<v Speaker 4>How is it going to get you?

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<v Speaker 10>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, maybe you can shut off your bank account

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<v Speaker 4>or something through a cyber attack, But at the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you have to worry about that too much.

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<v Speaker 4>Until the robotic flamethrower dogs show up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you might need to be concerned, as you and

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<v Speaker 4>Now that that's a legitimate point, though, Garriy Jeff. Clearly

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<v Speaker 4>and so forth almost always is way behind whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. The number of older adults who have lost one

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<v Speaker 1>last four years, according to the Federal Trade Commission. Can

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is just so depressing and so despicable because

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<v Speaker 4>think about it for a second. If you're an older

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<v Speaker 4>you can just go out and earn that money again, right,

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<v Speaker 4>think you know, older people are targeted a because in

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<v Speaker 4>many cases they're a lot less technologies saving than younger people,

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<v Speaker 4>and be in many cases they have money worth stealing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, your average twenty two year old doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>it's worth stealing, So you know, it makes entirely good

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<v Speaker 4>sense to me from a criminal's perspective, why you'd want

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<v Speaker 4>to target those people. Again, it's sad, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>all of this fraud is sad and despicable, but the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that they're going after elderly people and potentially stealing

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<v Speaker 4>to continuously raise awareness about these things because people think, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this has never happened to me. You know, I'm too

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<v Speaker 4>to people, your money is worth stealing, and it's these

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<v Speaker 4>attacks thanks to things like AI, whether it's voice cloning

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<v Speaker 4>text so it was full of grammatical errors and so forth,

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<v Speaker 4>which makes it harder to figure out if something is

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<v Speaker 4>fake or not are arising. You know, folks need to

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<v Speaker 4>for this sort of thing. And you know, folks need

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<v Speaker 4>help them stay aligned with the latest and greatest out there,

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<v Speaker 4>because sadly it's getting worse.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the most common scam, Dave? If you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Well per the FBI. The FBI has a website called

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<v Speaker 4>encourage folks to check this out, trying to regularly. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not only full of public service announcements that warn't about

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<v Speaker 4>these kind of things, but every year they put out

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<v Speaker 4>that are a lot more manageable and leading the multiple report.

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<v Speaker 4>But usually you see things like cryptocurrency scams, which often

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<v Speaker 4>come from this idea of pig butchering, where people will

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<v Speaker 4>get a text or they'll get an email, Hey sendyr

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<v Speaker 4>are we meeting tonight for a movie? Right? And it's

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<v Speaker 4>just completely farcical, made up. I got one of these

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<v Speaker 4>the other day. As a matter of fact, someone sent

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<v Speaker 4>me some weird text about you know, was I going

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<v Speaker 4>to be at this event? I don't know who it

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<v Speaker 4>came from. I don't know anything about the event. But

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of times they'll send these out because they

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<v Speaker 4>and then eventually it often leads to Hey, I'm making

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of money in cryptocurrency. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 4>about it. And then they'll often lure people in that

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<v Speaker 4>and then your money's gone. That's when they say that

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<v Speaker 4>people are losing like one hundred thousand dollars in more.

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<v Speaker 4>That's often the sort of scam there's Sometimes they're romance scams,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. Sometimes it's the traditional tech support scam. Those

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<v Speaker 4>are still real prominent. Hey, this is Microsoft calling Gary, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 4>your computer has a virus. Why don't you let me

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<v Speaker 4>Like, try to call Microsoft or Google when you actually

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<v Speaker 4>have a problem and see if you can get a

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<v Speaker 4>They are not calling you to tell you that you

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<v Speaker 4>have a virus on your computer. Do not give someone

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<v Speaker 4>that calls you out of the blue, with no previous relationship,

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<v Speaker 4>access to your device. Nothing good can come of it, Thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You real quick, Dave Black Friday coming up the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this week, right after Thanksgiving and then Cyber Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of scams out there. What's the number

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that people need to look out for if

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, lots of scams every year around there, and especially

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<v Speaker 4>if more people are online more often. You know, look

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<v Speaker 4>for the deal that's too good to be true. Looks

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<v Speaker 4>for you know, it could come as an email, it

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<v Speaker 4>could come as a tax. You know, they're targeting people

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<v Speaker 4>click here. You know, it's always about awareness, which is

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<v Speaker 4>why I appreciate chatting about this stuff with you. Yet

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<v Speaker 4>it's always about skepticism and slowing down and taking a breath.

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<v Speaker 4>At any time there's any kind of urgency, whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>a deal that's too good to be true or it's

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<v Speaker 4>some terrible thing that is going to happen, step back,

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<v Speaker 4>on X, don't click the links, don't call the numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>On your own. Open up your web browser and go

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<v Speaker 4>to www dot Amazon dot com, Walmart dot com, or

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<v Speaker 4>the links they send you. All of those can be spoofed.

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<v Speaker 4>You on your own, go to the website that purports

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<v Speaker 4>to have that great deal and see if you can

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<v Speaker 4>find it. Right, that's that's the best way to minimize

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<v Speaker 4>of these scams.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I got an email the other day

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<v Speaker 1>that I was going to have a chance to buy

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<v Speaker 1>my own island for like fifty bucks, and I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I did, right in the middle of Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right, Dave had her heaving. Have a happy Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>You got any big plans just family.

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<v Speaker 4>Stuff or yeah, family's coming over to our house.

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<v Speaker 1>since you've already got people coming over, two more won't

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<v Speaker 4>zero are welcome. Come on down. We'll have a good

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<v Speaker 4>old time and we'll break out the tins oil and

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<v Speaker 4>get out the fair day cages. It'll be a rocketly

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<v Speaker 4>good nurse back garag yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'll bring my I'll bring my Tesla coil perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, right, take care Dave, thank you, thankscarea jet.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nightcap continues seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 9>News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred wl Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 13>A step closer to beginning repairs with the nine point

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<v Speaker 13>This afternoon, the Ohio Department of Transportation said that all

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<v Speaker 13>additional shoring towers have been installed. There are ten in

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<v Speaker 13>says the militia will start Friday as they will start

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<v Speaker 4>Traffic is it's a pain no matter where you're going

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<v Speaker 13>Cincinnati City Councilman Seth Wallshawn with Scott Sloan as the

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<v Speaker 13>President elect Trump promising to impose twenty five percent tariffs

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<v Speaker 13>Recently, the National Women's Soccer League announced that Cincinnati was

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<v Speaker 13>among three finalists in the running for an expansion franchise.

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<v Speaker 8>Cincinnati's awarded a new franchise in the National Women's Soccer League.

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<v Speaker 8>Hamilton County is ready to put up five million dollars

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<v Speaker 8>to help that team find a training complex in talent.

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<v Speaker 8>Money's included in the new county budget for next year.

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<v Speaker 8>Commissioned President alisiha Rings would like to see the training

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<v Speaker 15>That would be a great thing. The National Women's Soccer

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<v Speaker 15>League and has an amateur sports facility and it is

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<v Speaker 15>gonna We're gonna be able to bring tournaments and high

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<v Speaker 15>school kids get scholarships and now with a national soccer

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<v Speaker 15>I mean this would be huge since IGN is one

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great historians of our day and also

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<v Speaker 1>a senior Fellows of Discovery Institute. He writes wonderful, wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>books like Rediscovering Amra, which is one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>history books that I've ever read, about American traditions and

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<v Speaker 1>how important they are to keeping this country, this great

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<v Speaker 1>republic together. He's also a father and he has become

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Scott Powell joins us tonight to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little Thanksgiving and to talk about President Trump's cabinet, which

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<v Speaker 1>is rapidly coming together. I have joked that Trump's cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>has come together faster than an Ikea Zoom video to

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<v Speaker 1>this point. Scott Powell, how are you.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm great, Gary, Jeff. Nice to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have considered you ever since Rediscovering America. The

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<v Speaker 1>first time we spoke, and then I read the book.

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<v Speaker 1>What a great, great history book, and it's and it's

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<v Speaker 1>more than a history book because it gets to the

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<v Speaker 1>real heart of the real heartbeat of what America is

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<v Speaker 1>and just what the foundations are that the nation was

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<v Speaker 1>built upon and how important they are to us maintaining

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping that republic. If we can, well, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and redirect first to President Trump's cabinet. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think has been important in these nominations, in these picks,

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<v Speaker 1>and what does it portend for our immediate future?

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<v Speaker 10>Scott Well, I think what impressed me the most was

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<v Speaker 10>the speed at which he appointed is various cabinet leaders.

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<v Speaker 10>Was done very quickly, and he appointed what I would

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<v Speaker 10>say are controversial people from the establishment point of view,

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<v Speaker 10>which basically means that they're the right that they're the

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<v Speaker 10>right appointments. Yeah, you know, our country has been captured

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<v Speaker 10>by a globalist elite that I think we've all woken

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<v Speaker 10>up to the fact that these globist elites and they

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<v Speaker 10>cross party lines, maybe more on the Democrat side than Republican,

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<v Speaker 10>but nonetheless there are people that whose allegiance to the

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<v Speaker 10>limited government of America as envisioned by the founders, that's

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<v Speaker 10>gone they're they're no longer you know, beholden you know,

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<v Speaker 10>to the Constitution, but rather they they have come to

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<v Speaker 10>believe that that that that there will be a new

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<v Speaker 10>global order and that they want to have a seat

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<v Speaker 10>at the table. And so they are basically involved in

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<v Speaker 10>facilitating many much of the agenda of the of the

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<v Speaker 10>new global order. So it means acqui then acquiescence to China,

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<v Speaker 10>it means embracing the Green New Deal. Uh, it means

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<v Speaker 10>you know, unlimited federal spending because it's it's all you know,

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<v Speaker 10>printed money, it's fiat currency. So uh, these folks are

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<v Speaker 10>from the old school. But what we need now is

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<v Speaker 10>a correction on the course of America because we are

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<v Speaker 10>going to destroy ourselves if we don't get our spending

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<v Speaker 10>reformed and if we don't rebuild our military so that

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<v Speaker 10>we're feared in the world. We need to get rid

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<v Speaker 10>of the dei in doctrination, the critical race theory, and

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<v Speaker 10>restore merit as the primary driver of hiring and firing

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<v Speaker 10>of in both the public sector and the private sector.

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<v Speaker 10>There is no there is no place for racial quotas.

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<v Speaker 10>That was not the vision of Martin Luther King, certainly,

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<v Speaker 10>and it shouldn't be our vision either. We want the

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<v Speaker 10>best people. And what happens over the long run by

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<v Speaker 10>living that way is that it elevates everybody. It means

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<v Speaker 10>that the people that thought that they could get a

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<v Speaker 10>preferential treatment because of their race, if that game is over,

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<v Speaker 10>then guess what happens. People begin to say, Hey, we've

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<v Speaker 10>got to compete on an even playing field with everybody else.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, let me let me take Asian, Latino, black,

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<v Speaker 10>doesn't matter. We got to compete and we got to

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<v Speaker 10>you know, we've got to be great students and great performers,

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<v Speaker 10>and then our future, you know, the world is our oyster.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you are on a roll, and I'm sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>slow yet, but something you said just struck me about

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<v Speaker 1>something that happened in the state where I live, the

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<v Speaker 1>Commonwealth of Kentucky. We're right across the river from Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the ballot issues this November was school choice,

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<v Speaker 1>to give parents actually the choice and the money if

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<v Speaker 1>they chose to get out of a public school. Where

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky is one of only two states in the nation

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<v Speaker 1>that don't have some form of school choice. And what

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about is the teachers' unions versus that meritocracy

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<v Speaker 1>that you're talking about, the competition you're talking about, because

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<v Speaker 1>if a parent knows they can get their child a

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<v Speaker 1>better education at a private school, but they can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>it because of the handcuffs that are on them as parents.

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<v Speaker 1>But it should be available to everyone. Meritocracy should be

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<v Speaker 1>open to everyone, not just blacks or whites, or Hispanics

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<v Speaker 1>or men or women. It should be open for the

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<v Speaker 1>best to rise to the top, and for those who

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<v Speaker 1>work harder and those who work smarter should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to be recognized and should be in those positions where

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<v Speaker 1>they have this freedom. And that's what you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>in essence, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh? Absolutely absolutely this is.

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<v Speaker 1>And the sad thing, Scott is the teachers' unions won

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<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky and we still have no school choice.

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<v Speaker 10>I know. It's a shame. It's a shame, and that's

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<v Speaker 10>why you need strong leadership from Washington, from the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 10>I believe his appointee for the Apartment of Education is

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<v Speaker 10>basically going to put herself out of a job that

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<v Speaker 10>she's going to preside over a department that is going

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<v Speaker 10>to be closed. I certainly hope that that's the case.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what I've heard. But I sure hope that that

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<v Speaker 10>is what happens, because you know, before nineteen seventy seven,

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<v Speaker 10>we had no Department of Education, and schools in America.

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<v Speaker 10>Public schools in America were far better than they are now.

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<v Speaker 10>No schools have gotten worse.

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<v Speaker 1>American public schools were number one in nineteen seventy nine

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<v Speaker 1>when the implementation of the federal Department of Education took

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<v Speaker 1>place under the Carter minister number one. We're twenty fourth now.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh and that's barely twenty fourth. I think it's actually

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<v Speaker 10>lower than that, really, but yeah, I do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>I think there's certainly there are certainly some schools in

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<v Speaker 10>some districts somewhere that would be higher in the ranking.

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<v Speaker 10>But overall, with the urban with populations concentrated in the

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<v Speaker 10>urban areas, and with the politics of the urban areas,

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<v Speaker 10>I think you just can't help but realize that the

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<v Speaker 10>schools are really a disaster in most of the urban areas.

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<v Speaker 10>The public schools. This is why kids kids graduate well

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<v Speaker 10>below there. You know, their their grade level for reading

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<v Speaker 10>and math and so forth. And it's a shame because

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<v Speaker 10>they can't get a good start in life unless the

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<v Speaker 10>schools have prepared them, and the schools are failing. So

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<v Speaker 10>let's know what we do in Florida. In Florida. In Florida,

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<v Speaker 10>every family gets a gets a credit. So I send

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<v Speaker 10>my daughter to a Christian private school, and I get

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<v Speaker 10>a about a seventy five hundred dollars credit that goes

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<v Speaker 10>directly to the school to subsidize the tuition. The tuition

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<v Speaker 10>is is more than twice that, yeh, but that's seven

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<v Speaker 10>five hundred dollars. Is everybody's eligible for it, and so

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<v Speaker 10>it's it's it's certainly greatly appreciated by by by people

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<v Speaker 10>who can't you know, who really can't afford to you know,

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<v Speaker 10>pay the full boat. Yes, so they can send their

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<v Speaker 10>kids to a private school if they think that's the best.

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<v Speaker 10>So you know, that offers the best education option based

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<v Speaker 10>on where they live and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>On the cabinet picks, Scott, how disappointed were you that

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<v Speaker 1>the Matt Gates nomination got shot down for Attorney General?

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<v Speaker 1>Very well, he was a major disruptor, and we need

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<v Speaker 1>we need major disruptors, as you mentioned at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>We need people who are you know, considered radical by

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<v Speaker 1>the establishment. In Washington, d C. To make real effective change, and.

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<v Speaker 10>I think he had. He certainly had the qualities of

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<v Speaker 10>character to do that. Perhaps the perhaps he really led,

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<v Speaker 10>he would be at the top ranking of courage, determination

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<v Speaker 10>of not caring what others thought. He would do what

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<v Speaker 10>he thought was right no matter what, and he would

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<v Speaker 10>persist at it and be courageous, and he would use

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<v Speaker 10>his position to be an effective communicator. I think he

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<v Speaker 10>basically was always very effective in communication. Yeah, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 10>maybe more so than like MARJORW. Taylor Green and others

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<v Speaker 10>who tend to be, you know, maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 10>they're not as good. Matt was very good. But you know,

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<v Speaker 10>in politics, as in everything in life, things don't always

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<v Speaker 10>work out the way we think they should. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 10>we have to just recognize when to fold our tent

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<v Speaker 10>and and and and move on. If Matt had things

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<v Speaker 10>in his past that could be really create a big

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<v Speaker 10>controversy and prevent his nomination from going going through, perhaps

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<v Speaker 10>it's better for him that he did withdraw. I can't.

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<v Speaker 10>I can't answer that. Only he knows the calculations that

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<v Speaker 10>he made. But I think you'll have a role to play,

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<v Speaker 10>and he's not going away, So all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I tell you what, Scott. Let's let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break and when we come back, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite holiday, Thanksgiving. What do you want? Great? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Powell Rediscovering America on the Nightcap one more time

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<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred WLW. Hey, if you're like most Americans do,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a ton of debt and you're paying. In

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<v Speaker 1>continuing our conversation with Scott Powell on Thanksgiving week here

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<v Speaker 1>on the Nightcap and let's talk about Thanksgiving. You write

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<v Speaker 1>about it along with other fantastic, great American holidays in

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<v Speaker 1>Rediscovering America. Give me your thoughts on Thanksgiving and why

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<v Speaker 1>this holiday is so darned important.

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<v Speaker 10>Scott, Well, I consider it really the core American holiday,

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<v Speaker 10>and I do so for many reasons. Number one, gratitude

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<v Speaker 10>is probably one of the most important things for all

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<v Speaker 10>of us to have embedded in our subconscious and our character,

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<v Speaker 10>in our disposition towards others. When you say thank you

634
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<v Speaker 10>to people, when you show gratitude for people, I tell you,

635
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<v Speaker 10>it changes the whole dynamic. If you're polite to the

636
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 10>cash register and you thank them for what they do,

637
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.800
<v Speaker 10>you've just made their day. So we want to make

638
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 10>each other's day. So gratitude is it's like the holy

639
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 10>grail of making other people's day, and if you practice it,

640
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 10>you will be amazed how you're appreciated and return. It's

641
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<v Speaker 10>really great. But Thanksgiving was not a holiday that was

642
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 10>supposed to happen with the Pilgrims. You know, the Pilgrims

643
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 10>embarked on a voyage across the Atlantic. They weren't the first,

644
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.280
<v Speaker 10>but this was the first. This was one of the

645
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.559
<v Speaker 10>early efforts at colonization. The first one in Jamestown really

646
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 10>failed because it was just men that came over, so

647
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 10>there was no plan on family formation and having children

648
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 10>and really having a colony that would sustain itself. But

649
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 10>the Pilgrims were all families, and the Mayflower was about

650
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.920
<v Speaker 10>half Pilgrims and maybe a little more than half Pilgrims,

651
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<v Speaker 10>and the rest were secular people. Some of them may

652
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<v Speaker 10>have had believed Christian beliefs, but they weren't part of

653
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<v Speaker 10>the separatist group. There was a group that knew each

654
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<v Speaker 10>other from being in the wilderness in Holland for about

655
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 10>ten years, ten or eleven years. Because they were persecuted,

656
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 10>they had to leave England, so the Pilgrims made this

657
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 10>voyage across as dangerously they were blown off course so

658
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 10>that they couldn't get to their sponsored territory. The Virginia

659
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<v Speaker 10>Company sponsored the Mayflower the ship, and it's very expensive

660
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<v Speaker 10>to sponsor a big ship sure and provision it and everything,

661
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 10>but they were all they were sponsored to go to

662
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<v Speaker 10>the Virginia territory in northern New Jersey. But stormweather blew

663
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<v Speaker 10>them off course and they ended up off Cape Cod.

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<v Speaker 10>And it was at that point that they began to

665
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<v Speaker 10>have a mutiny. And it was not the separatists, it

666
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<v Speaker 10>was not the Christians that were mutiny, because they were faithful.

667
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<v Speaker 10>They believe that God had brought them to the place

668
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 10>where they needed to settle. But the others were very

669
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<v Speaker 10>anxious and threatened mutiny. And so in the wisdom, it

670
00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:21.559
<v Speaker 10>was the Pilgrims who had the wisdom to say, well,

671
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<v Speaker 10>we've we've got to quell this unrest, and we're going

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<v Speaker 10>to do it by creating a compact wherein we all

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<v Speaker 10>agree that we will be democratically governed, that everyone will

674
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<v Speaker 10>have an equal voice, and that we we vote on

675
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 10>all major initiatives in our colony, how we do things,

676
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 10>and so forth and so everybody signed, all all the

677
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.639
<v Speaker 10>males on board, secular and separatists, Christian and non Christian,

678
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 10>all signed the Mayflower Compact. That was a forerunner to

679
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 10>the future of America, to the Constitution of the United States.

680
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<v Speaker 10>So that was, you know, that was really remarkable.

681
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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, the the the Pilgrims were really motivated for

683
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<v Speaker 10>you know, by a by a spiritual quest for for freedom.

684
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<v Speaker 10>And you know what's also remarkable about the Pilgrims is

685
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<v Speaker 10>that they they were similar to the Israelites in their

686
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 10>exodus from Egypt. They they the Pilgrims announced that the

687
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<v Speaker 10>leader of the Pilgrims, which was Bradford, William Bradford, he

688
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<v Speaker 10>he he said in his in his message to everybody,

689
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<v Speaker 10>that they were they were leaving England to go to

690
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<v Speaker 10>the New World, and that he viewed he viewed the

691
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:49.840
<v Speaker 10>voyage across the ocean just as the Israelites viewed the

692
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 10>exodus from oppression of the Egyptian the Pharaoh and going

693
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<v Speaker 10>to the Promised Land Canaan. That's exactly what he said.

694
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<v Speaker 10>He put every one with a mindset that they were

695
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<v Speaker 10>going to God's Promised Land. And boy, they needed that

696
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 10>faith because They had a very very tumultus journey, and

697
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 10>you know, they almost lost the ship. A main beam

698
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.559
<v Speaker 10>was broken, and that's one reason that they didn't They

699
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 10>didn't want to continue to go to their their destination,

700
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<v Speaker 10>the Virginia Company location in just south of the mouth

701
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 10>of the Hudson River. And then they just said, we've

702
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 10>got to survive and get to, you know, the land

703
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 10>that God guides us to. And it turned out that

704
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 10>Plymouth was a perfect place. It was almost you know,

705
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:42.960
<v Speaker 10>it had to been God's hand because the original Indian

706
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 10>tribe that was there was very warlike, but they had

707
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 10>been wiped out by a pandemic, some kind of an

708
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 10>epidemic destroyed the whole tribe. So this fertile land with

709
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<v Speaker 10>a with a you know, a spring running through it,

710
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.639
<v Speaker 10>a springfield stream, because you need you need fresh water,

711
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<v Speaker 10>uh to be successful to live, it had it all

712
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 10>and it was it was abandoned. In other words, there

713
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:11.360
<v Speaker 10>was not a there was not really a tribe there

714
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.480
<v Speaker 10>that they had to displace, and so and so it

715
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:19.239
<v Speaker 10>was that they they settled. But they they one of

716
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<v Speaker 10>their major you know, one of their major achievements too

717
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.440
<v Speaker 10>early on was that they they made a peace treaty

718
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<v Speaker 10>with the Wampanoag, with the Wamponomac tribe, which was the

719
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<v Speaker 10>biggest sort of umbrella tribe, and that was broken by,

720
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<v Speaker 10>you know, by massasoyat Uh, the Indian chief, with the

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<v Speaker 10>help of well he he was the Indian chief. He

722
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<v Speaker 10>couldn't speak English, so he couldn't communicate with the Pilgrims.

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<v Speaker 10>But Squanto Uh, you know, played a you know, played

724
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<v Speaker 10>a major role in uh in translating. Now, how did

725
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<v Speaker 10>squad how would how would Squanto know English? Well, it

726
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:01.840
<v Speaker 10>turns out God arranged that because he was kidnapped years

727
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.119
<v Speaker 10>before he went to Europe. He was taken to Europe,

728
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<v Speaker 10>he escaped from the from the prison that he was

729
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.599
<v Speaker 10>in Spain and got made his way to England, wherein

730
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<v Speaker 10>he knew that he wanted to go back to his

731
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 10>tribe and so he knew that he needed to, you know,

732
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<v Speaker 10>learn English because that was the language that he would

733
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<v Speaker 10>have to use to persuade to persuade some ship captain

734
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<v Speaker 10>to put him up a lot of passage. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>So anyway, so that was a very unique achievement and

737
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<v Speaker 10>it was unique among all the Indian all the treaties

738
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<v Speaker 10>with Indian tribes never lasted that long, but the pilgrim

739
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.280
<v Speaker 10>wamping on the Pea Street lasted more than fifty years.

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<v Speaker 10>There was peace, and there was not just peace, there

741
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 10>was harmony because the tribe that that came to know

742
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 10>the Pilgrims first was not a warlike tribe, and they

743
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 10>helped the Pilgrims learn what to plant and how to plant,

744
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 10>how to fish, how to survive. And so after the

745
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 10>first season, Uh, they decided the Pilgrims decided that they

746
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<v Speaker 10>needed to give thanks to God for the harvest, eager

747
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<v Speaker 10>as it was, because it was not a robust part.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it all began. But and the question for

749
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<v Speaker 1>another time is who brought the cranberry sauce? Scott Howe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's such a joy to talk to you, especially

751
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<v Speaker 1>about stuff that's so important, like uh.

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<v Speaker 10>Like, well, thanks Thanksgiving is really a special time, and

753
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 10>so you know, listeners ought to get get Rediscovering America.

754
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 10>You might get it in time for Thanksgiving, but it

755
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 10>has a chapter in there that will literally blow your

756
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.679
<v Speaker 10>mind about the significance of everything that happened leading up

757
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.960
<v Speaker 10>to that Thanksgiving. Uh, Gratitude dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>God, Bless you, thank you so much, Scott.

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<v Speaker 10>We got wonderful yep, Happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving to you

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<v Speaker 10>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the nightcap and it rolls on after the news

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<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred w l.

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<v Speaker 9>W News Traffic and Weather News Radio seven hundred wl Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 13>Wrapping up securing of the bridge with the ten o'clock report.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm Sean Gallagher breaking now. This afternoon, the Ohio Department

766
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:21.320
<v Speaker 13>of Transportation said all additional shoring towers were finally up

767
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<v Speaker 13>to support that section of the ifour seventy one bridge

768
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 13>that was damaged in a fire and closed southbound lanes.

769
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<v Speaker 13>This is a big step to starting repairs on the

770
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<v Speaker 13>big back bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Down the bridge.

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<v Speaker 8>Holiday travels with the tray say it's gonna be tougher

773
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.079
<v Speaker 8>than usual the peak times. Look for long delays approaching

774
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 8>the Brent Spence Bridge south on seventy five and from

775
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 8>westbound Fort Washington.

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00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Way traffic is it's a pain no matter where you're

777
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<v Speaker 4>going Right now, I can't imagine what it's going to

778
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 4>be like here in the days ahead.

779
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 8>Did Counsel Seth Walston pressing Odoff for answers on reopening

780
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 8>the four seventy one bridge damaged by the fire four

781
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.039
<v Speaker 8>weeks ago, but he says he's been told that's not

782
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:55.960
<v Speaker 8>gonna happen until early next year.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know what the timeline is yet. We're expecting

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<v Speaker 4>and man, they said yesterday they're expecting to begining a

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<v Speaker 4>schedule by the end of this week.

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00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Wells Chelsea, Scottsland.

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<v Speaker 8>Demolition work tearing out the damage to deal beams starts Friday.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Brian Coltson's radio so WL.

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<v Speaker 13>No Dot is planning to give a clearer picture of

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<v Speaker 13>the time frame on when those lanes will reopen when

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<v Speaker 13>they hold a media briefing tomorrow morning at ten o'clock.

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<v Speaker 13>Now the latest traffic and weather together and still showing

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<v Speaker 13>restrictions due to an earlier accident seventy one north bound

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<v Speaker 13>between the Wilmington Road and State Route seventy three exits.

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<v Speaker 13>Also restrictions State Route seventy three both ways between Old

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<v Speaker 13>Denny Road and Denny Road.

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<v Speaker 17>Now the latest forecast from the No Feared Dentist Weather

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<v Speaker 13>Seymour clouds increase tonight, the low down to thirty four,

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<v Speaker 13>cloudy sky's Wednesday, a chance of late afternoon rain, a

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<v Speaker 13>high at forty seven, then rain Wednesday night, mixing in

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<v Speaker 13>with snow in the overnight hours, the low down to

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<v Speaker 13>thirty five. Thanksgiving Day, cloudy with a chance of in

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<v Speaker 13>snow mainly the first half of the day, coming to

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<v Speaker 13>an end around one o'clock. A high of forty three

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<v Speaker 13>right now partly to mostly cloudy sky. It's thirty nine degrees.

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<v Speaker 13>Ohio State Highway Patrol says that a woman is dead

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<v Speaker 13>after an accident along Interstate seventy one south near US

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<v Speaker 13>sixty eight in Clinton County this evening, which dick cause closures.

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<v Speaker 13>They say, right around six o'clock, a vehicle driven by

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<v Speaker 13>thirty two year old Lorn Shore of Chillicothe struck a

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<v Speaker 13>pickup truck, causing his vehicle to go into the median

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<v Speaker 13>while the pickup went into the right lane. Shore was

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<v Speaker 13>hospitalized with injuries, while his eighteen year old passenger, identified

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<v Speaker 13>as eighteen year old mckel Reinhardt, who was from Chillicothy,

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00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 13>died from her injuries at a local hospital. Nobody in

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<v Speaker 13>the pickup truck was hurt. College basketball action tonight, a Bray,

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<v Speaker 13>Kentucky the defeating Western Kentucky at rupp Ana. As the

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<v Speaker 13>Cats remain undefeated following that eighty seven to sixty eight

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<v Speaker 13>victory number twenty two with a seventy five sixty six

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<v Speaker 13>win over South Carolina Monday night, as they'll take on

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<v Speaker 13>Michigan in the Fort Myers Beach Division Championship Game Wednesday night,

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<v Speaker 13>a thirty tip on fifty five KRC sixteenth rank do

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<v Speaker 13>you see will host Alabama State Wednesday night. That's a

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<v Speaker 13>tip off at seven here on the Big One. Earlier

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<v Speaker 13>today and the Miami RedHawks defeated Mercers seventy five seventy

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<v Speaker 13>two in the Fort Myers Pomps Division Championship Game. The

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<v Speaker 13>new college Football Playoff rankings released tonight, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas,

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<v Speaker 13>Penn State, and Notre Dame the top five. Miami, Georgia, Tennessee, SMU, Indiana,

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<v Speaker 13>Boise State, and Clemson round off the top twelve in

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<v Speaker 13>that order, But when it comes to seating in the

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<v Speaker 13>twelve team bracket, Oregon, Texas, Miami, Boise State, Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 13>Penn State, Notre Dame, Georgia, Tennessee, SMU, Indiana and Arizona

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<v Speaker 13>State in that order. Our next update is at ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm Sean Gallagher, News Radio seven hundred w LW.

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<v Speaker 2>Life is short and if we spend our time suffering

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<v Speaker 2>with pain in, it takes away our joy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a very good way to love. He's right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to be happy when you're in constantly. We're

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<v Speaker 1>back into the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW and starting

842
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<v Speaker 1>this hour tonight with someone a longtime acquaintance of this program.

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<v Speaker 1>I consider my radio friend for sure, even though we've

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<v Speaker 1>never met in person, talked numerous times. As you may

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00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>or may not know, he is the executive director of

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<v Speaker 1>the Climate Science Coalition of America, author of four books

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<v Speaker 1>on energy, climate change, and sustainable development, over one hundred

848
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>thousand copies in print. The book that he had out

849
00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:45.360
<v Speaker 1>last was it's been a little over a year. The

850
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Green Breakdown, the coming renewable energy failure. He predicted it,

851
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 1>and it seems to be many pieces of that failure

852
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 1>are coming to pass. Steve Gorham, Welcome back to the show.

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00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing, Hi, Gary, Jeff, great to join you.

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00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 7>Happy Thanksgiving to you and Thanksgiving and yeah, the green

855
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 7>breakdown appears to be coming quickly. There's a lot of things,

856
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 7>and I think the COP twenty nine Climate Conference and

857
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 7>buckaweiser Baijan is just another example.

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<v Speaker 1>It's now over.

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<v Speaker 7>There were sixty seven thousand people that attended something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go to isiser Bazan? I have not, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

862
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:33.599
<v Speaker 7>It's right on the coast of the Caspian Sea, though,

863
00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:35.519
<v Speaker 7>I think, and it's actually the first place in the

864
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<v Speaker 7>world that oil wells were thrilled, I understand, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>very ironic. They hosted it this year and if you

866
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 7>go there, you can see all these oil dereks all

867
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<v Speaker 7>around the city and then also in the sea as well,

868
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 7>and so it's it's it's very ironic. And the president

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<v Speaker 7>Ilhan Alijev said on the first Dai that oil and

870
00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.159
<v Speaker 7>gas was a gift of God.

871
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then the.

872
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:03.960
<v Speaker 7>OPEC folks backed them up. But you know, a lot

873
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.039
<v Speaker 7>of the delegates have pledged at COP twenty eight, they

874
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<v Speaker 7>pledged they were going to get rid of oil.

875
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<v Speaker 12>So it's kind of a crazy situation.

876
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, with that kind of an opening to

877
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>COP twenty nine this year seems totally at odds with

878
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 1>what has been done at these conferences. In the past,

879
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.679
<v Speaker 1>including you just referenced COP twenty eight and the call

880
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of fossil fuels and oil altogether. So

881
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if the people who are hosting the event

882
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and the people who are attending event seemed to be

883
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>praising oil, now, what's changed in the last year.

884
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<v Speaker 7>Well, things are very much at odds. In that meeting,

885
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 7>it was, it was it really could be called a failure,

886
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.079
<v Speaker 7>although they always they always declare these things of victory.

887
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:54.840
<v Speaker 7>You know, they get together at the end and say

888
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:57.519
<v Speaker 7>we've all agreed. But they were doing they weren't. They

889
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 7>were doing things like not calling on the Indian repres

890
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.360
<v Speaker 7>who had had objections. I understand they expelled Javier Milay

891
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:08.360
<v Speaker 7>and the whole Argentina delegation.

892
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:08.679
<v Speaker 1>Because they weren't.

893
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:09.840
<v Speaker 12>They weren't getting in line.

894
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:15.159
<v Speaker 7>And finally they agreed on three hundred billion annually from

895
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:20.920
<v Speaker 7>the rich nations to the poor nations, which was called

896
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 7>insulting by many of the nations there. They wanted a

897
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:24.159
<v Speaker 7>lot more money.

898
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:25.960
<v Speaker 12>They wanted over a trillion dollars a year.

899
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<v Speaker 7>And then, of course we have the shadow of the

900
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 7>President Trump coming into office, who withdrew from the Paris

901
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:41.360
<v Speaker 7>Climate Agreement, in twenty eighteen the twenty fifteen Paris Climate Agreement,

902
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:44.119
<v Speaker 7>and Biden restored it, but Trump says he's going to

903
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:48.719
<v Speaker 7>withdraw again. So it's really a mess in many many ways,

904
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.719
<v Speaker 7>and it should be a mess. You know, if you

905
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 7>look at what this has actually done. The top twenty

906
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 7>nine is the twenty ninth of these. They've been doing

907
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:02.440
<v Speaker 7>him since nineteen ninety five. They spent five trillion dollars.

908
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 7>But the world energy share of coal, oil and gas

909
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.880
<v Speaker 7>is still eighty one percent in twenty twenty one, the

910
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 7>same as it was in nineteen ninety nine. And you know,

911
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.280
<v Speaker 7>if you look at well as what's going on, we've

912
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 7>had global energy consumption is up forty seven percent over

913
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:26.840
<v Speaker 7>the last two decades, and carbon dioxide emissions are up

914
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 7>forty four percent over the last two decades, and they

915
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:33.480
<v Speaker 7>want them to all disappear, and they want the energy

916
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:35.599
<v Speaker 7>used to go down. These are things that are just

917
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 7>not going to happen, and it's all starting to break down.

918
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, and like you said, it's all starting to break down.

919
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.639
<v Speaker 1>And this is the point of part of the book

920
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Green Breakdown is that they're not dealing with reality.

921
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.840
<v Speaker 1>These people aren't dealing with the truth. They're dealing with

922
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 1>something that's kind of a fantasy that they can get

923
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.760
<v Speaker 1>rid of all those carbon emissions with a snap of

924
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>a finger or with the signing of some document. And

925
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 1>yet you mentioned the the agreeing on three hundred billion

926
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>dollars from the wealthy countries in the world to the

927
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.800
<v Speaker 1>poorest countries in the world. Wasn't there an a mission

928
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago by somebody at the UN and

929
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:25.519
<v Speaker 1>this climate panel that's that it admitted that this was

930
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 1>really about redistribution of wealth and it wasn't about saving

931
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the environment. That's that's all this is is redistribution of wealth.

932
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 7>And actually that's one of the big goals. Another goal

933
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:40.079
<v Speaker 7>of the United Nations is is to have a world government.

934
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.480
<v Speaker 7>That's what part of it is as well. And well,

935
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, and who can blame the poor nation? So

936
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 7>so Europe and US have said, okay, we got this

937
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:53.079
<v Speaker 7>climate problem, we got these storms getting worse, we have

938
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:56.119
<v Speaker 7>this disaster, and we caused it over the last three

939
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 7>or four decades. And so they all, you know, they're

940
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.239
<v Speaker 7>all here at these big conferences to get handouts. They

941
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 7>want they want billions of dollars to be transferred and

942
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.280
<v Speaker 7>and who can blame them, But it's you.

943
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 12>Know, the thing is, this isn't going to do This

944
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 12>isn't going to.

945
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.639
<v Speaker 7>Affect global temperatures, all this money, it isn't going to

946
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:17.760
<v Speaker 7>affect sea level rise. It's it's really the biggest superstition

947
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.840
<v Speaker 7>in modern history. It's a bunch of nonsense. And I

948
00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 7>think we may be right for the fall in Trump's

949
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 7>first administration. Really not the case. Uh, he was kind

950
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 7>of late putting together his team, but now there's terrific

951
00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 7>Momentumies named them all and he selected a bunch of

952
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 7>folks that are really going to make changes.

953
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Tell tell me, Steve, tell me Steve about Lee Zelden

954
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:43.159
<v Speaker 1>is the head of the e P A.

955
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah so so.

956
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 10>Uh.

957
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 7>Former Congression Representative Zelden came from the state of New York,

958
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 7>and uh he is you know, he's voted on a

959
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:55.880
<v Speaker 7>bunch of climate issues in the past. He's a he's

960
00:53:55.880 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 7>a climate skeptic as uh, as a the press has announced.

961
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 7>He also has said that he's interested in protecting clean

962
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.480
<v Speaker 7>air and clean water, which same as President Trump. But

963
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 7>he doesn't think carbon dioxide is something that's causing a problem.

964
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:17.239
<v Speaker 7>So he's going to be an EPA administrator, and we

965
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 7>have a bunch of big things going on right now

966
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:25.800
<v Speaker 7>with the EPA. The EPA passed regulations to reduce emissions

967
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.719
<v Speaker 7>from power plants in April, and that would require a

968
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.360
<v Speaker 7>ninety percent reduction. It would require closing Vallna coal plants,

969
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:38.320
<v Speaker 7>It would require natural gas plants to put in expensive

970
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 7>carbon dioxide capture and storage technology that has certainly is

971
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:46.400
<v Speaker 7>currently being challenged by twenty five states and a bunch

972
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:50.559
<v Speaker 7>of industry groups in court, and they're going to take

973
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 7>that down, I think when they.

974
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Get to the Supreme Court.

975
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.000
<v Speaker 7>And oh, by the way, it may be that the

976
00:54:56.199 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 7>Justice Department decides not to defend that regulation from the EPA.

977
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 7>This is very possible under a Trump administration. There's also

978
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 7>standards to reduce carentoxide emissions from cars and trucks, which

979
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.719
<v Speaker 7>would force the automakers to sell sixty eight percent of

980
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:20.440
<v Speaker 7>their vehicles by twenty thirty two electric vehicles. And we're

981
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.159
<v Speaker 7>finding out now that people don't want them.

982
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Nobody nobody wants the evs. The infra pressor isn't set up,

983
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's expensive, and then you have to deal with

984
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the lithium batteries and the fires that have consumed whole

985
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:40.599
<v Speaker 1>lots of cars and garages and stuff. We've watched the

986
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.039
<v Speaker 1>reports and we'll talk about that in a moment. But

987
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a whole seed change with this Trump administration, not

988
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 1>just with the EPA, but you mentioned the Department of Justice.

989
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be radically different because it's been so

990
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:55.760
<v Speaker 1>radical in the past four years.

991
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:02.920
<v Speaker 7>And the second big appointment is Chris Wright as Energy Secretary.

992
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 7>He's been involved in about twenty percent of the oil

993
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.800
<v Speaker 7>and gas on shore in the US. He found a

994
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 7>company called Liberty Energy, which fracts twenty percent of on

995
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:18.880
<v Speaker 7>shore wells nationally. And he's another big critic. And of

996
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 7>course the Department Energy is a huge pusher of all this.

997
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:27.400
<v Speaker 7>They're the ones who are are redistributing the Inflation Reduction

998
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 7>Act money, and they also have the seventy five dollars

999
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:35.719
<v Speaker 7>tax credit for new evs comes through the Department of Energy.

1000
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:37.440
<v Speaker 7>By the way, you know, if you buy a used

1001
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:40.079
<v Speaker 7>DV there's also a credit, and then if it's sold

1002
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:41.920
<v Speaker 7>a third time, there's another credit.

1003
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:42.599
<v Speaker 12>From the federal government.

1004
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:46.199
<v Speaker 7>There's an endless stream of credits on these evs. And

1005
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 7>mister Trumps said he's going to get rid of all

1006
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 7>that good. So Chris Wright is going to do a

1007
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:55.199
<v Speaker 7>whole bunch of things that are also going to get

1008
00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:58.519
<v Speaker 7>us back to sense sensible energy policy and collapse a

1009
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 7>out of this push for for a green cars and

1010
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:04.320
<v Speaker 7>trucks and everything else.

1011
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, look, Steve, this is the trademark of

1012
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a Trump presidency and it was the first time around.

1013
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Is the deregulation and the and and less centralization of

1014
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:20.079
<v Speaker 1>our government from the Department of Education and the Department

1015
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of Energy. And you can just go through each one

1016
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of these bureaucratic agencies in Washington, d c. That are

1017
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:31.000
<v Speaker 1>going to not wield the kind of the kind of

1018
00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 1>power they are wielding. Is giving freedom back to Americans

1019
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to decide to choose what kind of car they want

1020
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to drive, to decide what kind of stove they're going

1021
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:46.559
<v Speaker 1>to have in their home, and and all of the

1022
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:50.239
<v Speaker 1>rest of that. And I just it's it's a new

1023
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.639
<v Speaker 1>day in America just because of deregulation alone. And I

1024
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:55.559
<v Speaker 1>think it's a good thing.

1025
00:57:57.400 --> 00:57:58.000
<v Speaker 12>Well, it is.

1026
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.159
<v Speaker 7>It's going to it's going to keep costs down a

1027
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:03.480
<v Speaker 7>little bit. Although we have we have this Ai revolution.

1028
00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:07.360
<v Speaker 7>That's that's just boosting demand for electricity like crazy. All

1029
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:09.119
<v Speaker 7>that's gonna help drive costs up.

1030
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need more energy than ever. And if if

1031
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:17.920
<v Speaker 1>wind and solar are not reliable, which they're not reliable

1032
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>because the sun doesn't alls shine and the wind doesn't

1033
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:24.719
<v Speaker 1>all was blow. Uh, And the batteries are suspect that

1034
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>store these things and they you know, takes so much

1035
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:33.880
<v Speaker 1>power just to maintain the power that's collected, the energy

1036
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:38.519
<v Speaker 1>that's collected. You talk about sustainable energy in the book,

1037
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, how do you rank wind and solar

1038
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.079
<v Speaker 1>as energy sources? They're all right if you're on a farm.

1039
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.239
<v Speaker 1>My Congressman Thomas Massey, who wants to get rid of

1040
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Energy, by the way, and good luck

1041
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:56.519
<v Speaker 1>to him, but he has been off the grid using

1042
00:58:56.599 --> 00:59:01.599
<v Speaker 1>solar power for his farm for over a debtad he said, Okay,

1043
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 1>it's expensive, but I'm in favor of the all above approach.

1044
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And and and that's kind of what you advocate for too,

1045
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

1046
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 7>But wind and solar are okay, and I'm not I'm

1047
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:18.760
<v Speaker 7>not opposing those, but we have all these incentives. You know,

1048
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:21.920
<v Speaker 7>there's eighty billion dollars a year fiscal year twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 7>That's going from the Inflation Reduction Act to wind and

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<v Speaker 7>solar and and again the taxpayers and a lot of

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00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 7>the solar are go to people that are are wealthy,

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<v Speaker 7>they can afford to put it on the rooftops, and

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<v Speaker 7>so it comes from the middle class taxpayers, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>it's funnel to them. Just not just not something government

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<v Speaker 7>should be doing. We should get out of all those

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<v Speaker 7>those tax incentives. And I think mister Trump is going

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<v Speaker 7>to cut a lot of that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The other the other part of this is the reliability

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<v Speaker 1>and the danger. You mentioned the AI revolution, which is

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<v Speaker 1>going to require more energy than we've ever thought we

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<v Speaker 1>could even generate. And you know, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>the APA is talking about a ninety percent reduction in

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<v Speaker 1>fossil fuel use and all the rest. Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we need more. What about nuclear energy is a sustainable source?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, nuclear is a good thing. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 7>very reliable. The problem with nuclear is cost and also

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<v Speaker 7>it's difficult to build new nuclear facilities. It takes a

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<v Speaker 7>long time, and part of that is regulations. As I

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<v Speaker 7>think I mentioned before, I spoke at a group called

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<v Speaker 7>the Plastic Pipe Institute, and those guys said, when they

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<v Speaker 7>usually sell a pipe, there's about five pages of regulations,

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<v Speaker 7>but if they sell something to the nuclear industry, there's

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<v Speaker 7>about an inch of regulations just to sell, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>reporting just to sell plastic pipe. And so we have

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<v Speaker 7>a big problem with costs because of regulations for nuclear.

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<v Speaker 7>But what people don't know right now, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of headlines about Microsoft and Amazon and Google locating data

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<v Speaker 7>centers next to nuclear plants, and that's all good and

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<v Speaker 7>restarting nuclear plants, But there are two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 7>co fired power plants right now that are in planning

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<v Speaker 7>or being constructed in the United States, and that is

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<v Speaker 7>really going to be the big, big winner, as it

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<v Speaker 7>should be.

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<v Speaker 12>It's very low cost.

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<v Speaker 7>And with the exception of carbon dioxide, we shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 7>called the pollutant. It's very very low emissions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, CO two. CO two is a necessary component of

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<v Speaker 1>our atmosphere. I mean CO two is necessary for life.

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<v Speaker 1>The answer it is the question has always been how

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<v Speaker 1>much is okay? And when is the balance upset if

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<v Speaker 1>there's too much CO two. At this point, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have nearly the amount of CO two that some people

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<v Speaker 1>say we should have in our atmosphere, and certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>the highest in Earth's history.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's lower than in the past, but you know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's amazing. Nothing is net zero, Nothing is zero

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<v Speaker 7>CO two. If you build any kind of a building

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<v Speaker 7>and you put glass in it, and you put copper

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<v Speaker 7>in it for pipes, and you put ceramic in it,

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<v Speaker 7>and you put wood and steel and concrete, all of

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<v Speaker 7>those things release carbon dioxide when they're manufactured and when

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<v Speaker 7>they're transported. You can't even build a grass hut that

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<v Speaker 7>is net zero. If you cut down wood and grass

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<v Speaker 7>and build a grass hut, you will release carbon dioxide.

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<v Speaker 12>That's the way the world is.

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<v Speaker 7>So as you say, this is this is crazy, This

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<v Speaker 7>this idea that we go for net zero in the

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<v Speaker 7>United Nations, pushing this just never going to happen.

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<v Speaker 10>Are you are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you hopeful and encouraged with Donald Trump coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency and the prospect of all this deregulation going on? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Are are you positive about this? Steve A Long while

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<v Speaker 1>I am. The rest of the world obviously is you

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01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.760
<v Speaker 1>wrote in the Green Breakdown, the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The Inflation Reduction Act. People always talked about, Oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't pass the Green New Deal. Well, they basically got

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<v Speaker 1>the Green New Deal passed when they passed the Inflation

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<v Speaker 1>Reduction Act. And I wonder if there's any move a

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<v Speaker 1>foot in Congress to maybe rescind that.

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<v Speaker 7>It's going to be difficult because I think there are

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<v Speaker 7>many there are many Republican representatives that are getting money

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<v Speaker 7>sent to.

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<v Speaker 4>Their district for a lot of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 12>So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think mister Trump has also said he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to stop paying it to what extent he can for

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<v Speaker 7>the stuff that hasn't been already allocated. But we'll just

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<v Speaker 7>have to see how this goes.

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<v Speaker 10>Again.

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<v Speaker 7>The economics are a favor a sensible policy. For example, California,

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<v Speaker 7>right now they're going to I think they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 7>a rate pay revolt. They have. If you have an

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<v Speaker 7>air conditioner and you run it in California, it costs

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<v Speaker 7>you in July or August, it cost you a thousand

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01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:02.719
<v Speaker 7>dollars for electricity each month. And electricity in California is

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<v Speaker 7>going up fifty percent in the last three years fifty

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<v Speaker 7>three years, and people just can't can't live this way,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's all because of these Green policies out there.

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<v Speaker 7>So wherever this this stuff is being deployed, it's it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be it's going to be a big, big

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<v Speaker 7>deal and people are going to push back.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah well, thank you for your time tonight, and I

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01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:27.000
<v Speaker 1>know that you'll be available later on down the line

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01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:29.719
<v Speaker 1>anything big develops, and we're looking for some big things

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<v Speaker 1>after the first of the year with the new administration.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Gorham, author author of The Green Breakdown, The Coming

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01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Renewable Energy Failure, and you can still find it's still

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<v Speaker 1>out there, Steve, Thanks again for your time and Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving once again, sir, Thank.

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<v Speaker 12>You Gary Jef.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it. It's the nightcap and it continues in

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<v Speaker 1>moments on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 16>If you're looking for a healthy, fun family tradition on

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<v Speaker 16>Thanksgiving Day, here's your answer. The Western and Southern Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 16>Day Race sponsored by secret.

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<v Speaker 1>By his own estimation, the fourth time that Tim Hale

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<v Speaker 1>and I have had a chance to talk about. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is Tim Hale, a thirty three year old Army Reserve

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<v Speaker 1>veteran who was incarcerated for nearly three years in the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington d C. Gulag in prison for nonviolent offenses simply

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<v Speaker 1>by being at the Capitol on January sixth with other

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<v Speaker 1>people who supported President Trump in the election that we

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<v Speaker 1>all know now legally proven in court was fought with fraud,

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01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:41.159
<v Speaker 1>with fraud in Pennsylvania and other places. We know this

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<v Speaker 1>by court verdicts over the summer. But Tim Hale, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a great, great turn of events for you and

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<v Speaker 1>for the other January sixth defendants, and for America in

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<v Speaker 1>general when it comes to actually having constitutional rights again

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<v Speaker 1>and respected at the highest levels of government. How are you?

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<v Speaker 18>I am so good. I can't stand it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 18>I'm not just good. I'm good enough. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 18>much for having me back on This is such a

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<v Speaker 18>phenomenal occasion, and I couldn't be happier.

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<v Speaker 1>So January twentieth, we're all looking to January twentieth, the

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<v Speaker 1>day that President Trump has inaugurated again as our commander

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<v Speaker 1>in chief, who's vowed to pardon all January sixth defendants,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least as many as he possibly can, and

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<v Speaker 1>he could do all of them, and he should. But

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<v Speaker 1>what led up to this, and what has happened since

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<v Speaker 1>January sixth of twenty twenty one is a travesty not

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<v Speaker 1>only of justice but a trampling of rights not seen

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe since America's Civil War in the eighteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were many people who were jailed in the

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<v Speaker 1>interim after January sixth for social media posts and once

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01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:15.800
<v Speaker 1>they were reading this is crazy. So what exactly got

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<v Speaker 1>you in the whoscal on January sixth? Tim? Just for

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<v Speaker 1>people who haven't heard your story before, let's do a

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<v Speaker 1>quick review.

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<v Speaker 18>Sure, sure, you know, I worked an overnight shift as

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<v Speaker 18>a security contractor for the military, and I was also

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<v Speaker 18>the union rep. But a very bad relationship with management

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<v Speaker 18>because of that, because they violated a lot of laws,

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01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:40.519
<v Speaker 18>and so they actually tipped off NCIS.

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<v Speaker 12>I was at the Capitol.

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<v Speaker 18>They didn't know I did anything bad or anything, but

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<v Speaker 18>the NCIS came to my house looking for me. They

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<v Speaker 18>found my roommate. They strapped my roommate with a wire

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<v Speaker 18>and they tried to get them to incriminate me while

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<v Speaker 18>I was drinking, and they then framed me as a

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<v Speaker 18>domestic terrorist. And it was a long journey after that.

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<v Speaker 18>They ended up putting me in solid terry confinement for

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<v Speaker 18>about a year in the DC Jail called it the

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<v Speaker 18>DC Gulag. Spent about two years in the DC jail,

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<v Speaker 18>and then another year in federal prison after that, to

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<v Speaker 18>spend about three years behind bars for walking through the

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<v Speaker 18>Capitol building. And there's your justice system, America. I was

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<v Speaker 18>also the amateur comedian, and so they tried to take

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<v Speaker 18>satire of mine and frame me as a far right

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<v Speaker 18>extremist because as you just mentioned, people, they could take anything,

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<v Speaker 18>like they took memes off of my phone to make

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<v Speaker 18>me seem like I was a domestic terrorist. I mean,

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<v Speaker 18>this is the fate of America. It's very Orwellian. But

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<v Speaker 18>I'm glad that this is nearing its end, thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this Department of Justice, the one you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>which I mean, that's about as a real a term

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<v Speaker 1>department of justice as the Inflation Reduction Act. But this

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice also trying to put somebody in prison

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<v Speaker 1>for a meme about the election in twenty sixteen with

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<v Speaker 1>telling Democrats that they could vote the day after the election.

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<v Speaker 1>They I mean, I don't know if they were ever

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<v Speaker 1>successful in putting that person in jail for that meme.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thought police have been alive and well since

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<v Speaker 1>January sixth of twenty twenty one in America, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>about to be defunded, I hope by President Trump.

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<v Speaker 18>I hope so too. I also hope they defund NPR.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, they try to use NPR hit pieces about

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<v Speaker 18>me at my sentencing hearing, and this is publicly funded,

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<v Speaker 18>publicly funded NPR articles were used by the prosecution to

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<v Speaker 18>try to sentence meet over twice my guidelines. That's how

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<v Speaker 18>I got four years instead of twenty months. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 18>it's quite it's quite an incestuous relationship they needed. I

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<v Speaker 18>hope Elon Musk and Vi vak Ramaswami, I hope they

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<v Speaker 18>defund NPR. That's that's that's number one on my agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, it's it's been one of the bulls

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<v Speaker 1>eyes that Trump has pointed out already the incoming Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>They already said, uh, you know, we're gonna let them

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<v Speaker 1>survive on their own. I thought that only only communist

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<v Speaker 1>countries had state run media, state funded media. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that was happening in America. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that. But we've seen example after example after

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<v Speaker 1>example of this. I mean, we've got PROVDA alive and

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<v Speaker 1>well in this country right now, and taxpayers should not

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<v Speaker 1>be funding it.

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<v Speaker 18>I couldn't agree more. Yeah, I mean, it's a modern

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<v Speaker 18>day Operation Mockingbird. You know, this state propaganda. That's all.

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<v Speaker 18>It is, good narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to point out something I just saw today,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a an article, a column that came

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<v Speaker 1>out yesterday as a matter of fact, by the great

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<v Speaker 1>legal mind Jonathan Turley, and he talks about here's the title,

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<v Speaker 1>Congress's January sixth investigation looks less and less credible. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was in the Hill, so if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>check it out, he says, on January sixth, twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>the nation rock by the disruption of the certification of

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden as our next president. With Donald Trump set

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<v Speaker 1>to return to the White House in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>it is astonishing how much of that day remains a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of intense debate, and he said those divisions are

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<v Speaker 1>likely only to deepen after a slew of recent reports

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<v Speaker 1>that have challenged the selective release of information from the

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01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:32.960
<v Speaker 1>House January sixth committee. And you just talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>an NPR NPR was used in your trial against you.

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<v Speaker 1>But he said January sixth remains as much a political

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01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:47.359
<v Speaker 1>litmus test as a historical event, whether you refer to

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01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that day as a riot or an insurrection, puts you

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<v Speaker 1>on one side or the other of a giant political chasm. Chasm.

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<v Speaker 1>They never charged Donald Trump with the insurrection. They never

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01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:02.560
<v Speaker 1>charged any of the January sixth defendants with insurrection. How

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<v Speaker 1>come that drum beat was riveted into our heads over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again by mainstream media, also part of the

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01:12:11.039 --> 01:12:14.720
<v Speaker 1>state run media or state sponsored media.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, because it was purely a trocity propaganda. That's why

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01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:20.960
<v Speaker 18>they never released all the video. They just wanted you

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01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.079
<v Speaker 18>to see the same thirty second clips as someone break

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01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:25.920
<v Speaker 18>in a window for three years because it again, it

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01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.079
<v Speaker 18>was just about a narrative. Then again, you saw what

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01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:30.439
<v Speaker 18>they tried to do with him in State Plate Colorado,

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<v Speaker 18>where they tried to use the fourteenth Amendment, Yeah, the

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01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:35.840
<v Speaker 18>insurrection clause to bar him from office. I mean, this

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01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:39.119
<v Speaker 18>was just a ploy they sabotaged the twenty twenty election,

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01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:41.319
<v Speaker 18>and if he didn't go down quietly, they wanted to

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01:12:41.399 --> 01:12:44.680
<v Speaker 18>use that to sabotage the twenty twenty four election. I mean,

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<v Speaker 18>that was the ultimate That was the end result, was

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01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:50.159
<v Speaker 18>that they would prosecute him if he didn't keep quiet.

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<v Speaker 18>And that's what they ended up doing, and so I

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01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:55.720
<v Speaker 18>think they used us as tools against him, and then

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<v Speaker 18>I think it was part of a long game they had.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, as you mentioned, they only showed the portions of

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01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the video that supported the prosecution side. In most of

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<v Speaker 1>these trials of people, there is a sheriff and I'm

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01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:18.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to remember his name, a sheriff from Williamstown or

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01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Williams County, Williamson County in Tennessee. A sheriff's deputy who's

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01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like seventy years old, who was arrested and was still

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01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in jail, and I'm trying to think of his name.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you and I have talked in the past,

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01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:34.840
<v Speaker 1>there were plenty of people, in fact, people that you

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01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 1>were in a cell with at one time or another,

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01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:42.319
<v Speaker 1>who you know and admitted they were informants for the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI and the powers that be, and they got less

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01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:52.000
<v Speaker 1>time than you did because I guess they were snitching

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01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:55.319
<v Speaker 1>on the side of the people in power at the time.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, I mean, that's what makes the part of saying

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01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:03.520
<v Speaker 18>a little contentious between you know, Jay six Ers, Like

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01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:07.279
<v Speaker 18>I personally think that I don't think it's about who

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01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:09.159
<v Speaker 18>was violent or who was peaceful. I don't think it's

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01:14:09.159 --> 01:14:12.840
<v Speaker 18>about who had misdemeanors or felonies. I think I think

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01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:15.680
<v Speaker 18>that pardons should be I think pardons should be for

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01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:17.960
<v Speaker 18>those who went there for the right reasons. And I

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01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:21.680
<v Speaker 18>think that if you went there to screw over other protesters,

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01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:23.640
<v Speaker 18>if you went there to entrap people, if you went

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01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:25.239
<v Speaker 18>there to hurt Trump, or if you went there to

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01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:27.920
<v Speaker 18>hurt the election or the country, then maybe you don't

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01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.359
<v Speaker 18>get a pardon. I think it's a little more nuanced

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01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:32.640
<v Speaker 18>than most people make it out to be. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 18>I mean I always look at it like this. The

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<v Speaker 18>one of the lead FBI guys from the Wolverine Watchman

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01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:42.159
<v Speaker 18>stead napping plot, that fake kidnapping plot in Michigan, he

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01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:46.000
<v Speaker 18>got promoted after that to the DC office. So like

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01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:49.600
<v Speaker 18>when you look at the Wolverine Watchman kidnapping thing, two

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01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:52.319
<v Speaker 18>thirds of those dudes ended up being informants. So how

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01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:55.159
<v Speaker 18>many people with the thousands and pon thousands of people

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01:14:55.399 --> 01:14:58.239
<v Speaker 18>in DC on January sixth, how many of them might

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01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:01.159
<v Speaker 18>have been bad actors who had infiltrated the crowd. You know,

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01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:02.399
<v Speaker 18>I think there was a.

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<v Speaker 12>Lot of it.

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<v Speaker 18>And I met, as you just mentioned, I met, I

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01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:08.079
<v Speaker 18>met a few bad actors and they don't care. The

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01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:10.760
<v Speaker 18>public doesn't know this, but they deserve to know. That's

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01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:13.720
<v Speaker 18>why I hope. I hope that he stops the prosecutions.

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01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:16.279
<v Speaker 18>When he gets in, I hope he releases my friends

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01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:18.640
<v Speaker 18>who are in prison. But before the pardon is I

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01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:21.399
<v Speaker 18>hope that he gets control of the DOJ, maybe the

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01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:24.960
<v Speaker 18>DoD and even DHS, And I hope he gets lists

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01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:27.199
<v Speaker 18>of all the actors that were there that day to

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01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:30.079
<v Speaker 18>set us up and just you know, check the list

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01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:32.520
<v Speaker 18>if you see any similar names on the defendant list,

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01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.720
<v Speaker 18>maybe cross those ones off. That's just my preference.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple defendants Tim Hale report being denied bailed despite no

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01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:42.359
<v Speaker 1>prior criminal records. Were you one of those?

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<v Speaker 18>That is correct? Yeah, a lot of us, A lot

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01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 18>of us were held in spite of the Bail Reform

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01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:55.199
<v Speaker 18>Act in DC. In fact, there was a ruling called

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01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:57.880
<v Speaker 18>the Montreal decision. Some people ended up getting released because

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01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:00.000
<v Speaker 18>of this ruling and others didn't. They were very select

1347
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:02.359
<v Speaker 18>active in how they applied it. But the ruling was

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01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:06.600
<v Speaker 18>that if you had no connections to extremeist organizations, if

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01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 18>you had committed no new crimes after January sixth, then

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01:16:10.479 --> 01:16:12.680
<v Speaker 18>you were good to go, but they didn't apply that

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01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:17.000
<v Speaker 18>across the board. Yeah, many, many people were detained for

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01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:20.520
<v Speaker 18>no reason other than for narratives they want to They

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01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:22.880
<v Speaker 18>want to portray people like Julian Cater, for instance, as

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01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:26.319
<v Speaker 18>cop killers, when no cops died at the Capitol. Well

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01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:28.399
<v Speaker 18>say the same thing with the oathkeepers. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is not just a new thing in Washington,

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01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:36.119
<v Speaker 1>d C. I mean used to be to be elected

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01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:37.960
<v Speaker 1>mayor of Washington, d C. You had to be a

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01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:43.880
<v Speaker 1>crack addict. There's been documentation of pre dawn raids affecting

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01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:48.600
<v Speaker 1>dozens of families where the FBI or whomever was raiding

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01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.399
<v Speaker 1>their homes to arrest them for being at the Capitol

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01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:56.000
<v Speaker 1>on January sixth, used flashback devices which actually started fires

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01:16:56.039 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and caused fire damage inside these defendants' homes. There's new

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01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:06.079
<v Speaker 1>evidence that and I mentioned this earlier, tim suggesting some

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01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.720
<v Speaker 1>defendants were charged based on social media posts and reading choices,

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<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned your meme. And here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If people get pardoned, shouldn't they be made whole as

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01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:24.000
<v Speaker 1>much as the government can do that financially, because of

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01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:28.439
<v Speaker 1>the legal fees and because of the time lost at work,

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01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:33.039
<v Speaker 1>maybe they've lost jobs, they've lost businesses. I mean, shouldn't

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01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:35.880
<v Speaker 1>there be a push by the Department of Justice now

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01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:41.319
<v Speaker 1>to make these people whole? A pardons nice and being

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01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.760
<v Speaker 1>released from the gulags in the prison is even nicer.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, these people have been damaged on spurlish

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01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:56.039
<v Speaker 1>charges now for almost four years. But what's the remedy

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01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:57.039
<v Speaker 1>there legally?

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<v Speaker 18>Well, I think that I think you're right. I mean,

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01:18:00.520 --> 01:18:02.960
<v Speaker 18>they you know, they do, they do deserve to be

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01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.359
<v Speaker 18>made whole. The problem is, and you, I mean you

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01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:08.520
<v Speaker 18>had mentioned shouldn't the DOJ be doing this now? They

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01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:12.399
<v Speaker 18>absolutely should. They should also stop prosecuting people and kicking indoors,

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01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:14.920
<v Speaker 18>but they're just not. Unfortunately, this is going to have

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01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:18.760
<v Speaker 18>to wait until the new administration. Uh, it's just it's

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01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:21.880
<v Speaker 18>the same old story. They're just they're ramping up the arrests,

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01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:25.039
<v Speaker 18>they're not stopping them. And so yeah, they should be

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01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:28.800
<v Speaker 18>working towards this. The Supreme Court just overturned the one

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01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:32.039
<v Speaker 18>felony charge I had that that fake obstruction charge that

1388
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:35.720
<v Speaker 18>went back to Enron. The Supreme Court overruled it, and

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01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:38.800
<v Speaker 18>they still haven't dropped it from my case after I

1390
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.760
<v Speaker 18>already served my sentence. It's like, it's this is crazy.

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01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:46.000
<v Speaker 18>They don't care. They they just don't care. It's totally vindictive.

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01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:48.520
<v Speaker 18>But you know, when we get new blood in there

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01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:51.439
<v Speaker 18>and we actually get control, I think that's when you're

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01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:53.840
<v Speaker 18>gonna start seeing, you know, some restitution there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:58.399
<v Speaker 18>I think people people should be people should be compensated

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01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.880
<v Speaker 18>for losing their homes, for losing their jobs. So a

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<v Speaker 18>lot of the defense I met were not just blue

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01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:08.560
<v Speaker 18>collar workers like they were businessmen. They made their own

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01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:11.800
<v Speaker 18>they were small businessmen, they made their own livelihoods. They

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01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:14.840
<v Speaker 18>lost everything, you know. I mean, you can't get that back.

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01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:17.279
<v Speaker 18>You can get those years back. How much money do

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01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:18.880
<v Speaker 18>you put on a year of your life.

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01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:23.600
<v Speaker 1>No doubt about that. And the great dichotomy too, is

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01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:27.279
<v Speaker 1>what happened with the National Guard. When there were the

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01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:30.560
<v Speaker 1>riots near the White House where they burned the church

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01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and President Trump came out with the Bible. The National

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01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Guard was allowed to be there, but the requests or

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01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:42.439
<v Speaker 1>the offer of National guardsmen at the Capitol on January sixth,

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01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that President Trump made to both Nancy Pelosi's sergeant at

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01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:51.399
<v Speaker 1>arms in the House and Senator Schumer's sergeant at arms

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01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:56.199
<v Speaker 1>in the Senate were both denied. No, we got this handled.

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01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all of it smells like the most colossal

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01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:02.279
<v Speaker 1>set of up in the world. That was just when

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01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>we saw them the political law fair that they that

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01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:09.920
<v Speaker 1>they pursued against Donald Trump as soon as he announced

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01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:12.479
<v Speaker 1>he was running again. So, I mean, it's it's no

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01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:17.880
<v Speaker 1>big secret that they have been using their position of

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01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:22.880
<v Speaker 1>power to silence political foes and political dissent. That is

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01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:25.159
<v Speaker 1>that is straight out of the USSR.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, I mean, and it's it's like I just said,

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01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:32.920
<v Speaker 18>it's it's flagrant. They don't care that we know. They

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01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:35.039
<v Speaker 18>know that we know, and it's not an issue to them.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, Pelosi's on video. It took us three years

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01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:41.800
<v Speaker 18>to get it, but she's on video taking responsibility for

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01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:44.279
<v Speaker 18>the fact that there was no National Guard. She's on

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01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:47.000
<v Speaker 18>video saying this is my fault, and she it is

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01:20:47.039 --> 01:20:49.600
<v Speaker 18>her fault. It's also Mayor Bowser's fault. She's in charge

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01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:51.960
<v Speaker 18>of the Metro PD. Pelosi was in charge of the

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01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:55.840
<v Speaker 18>Capital PD. We have body cameras from METROPD officers from

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01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:58.880
<v Speaker 18>January sixth, and after they get called to the situation,

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01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.279
<v Speaker 18>they realize how out number they're like, they set us

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01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:04.600
<v Speaker 18>up and they're responding to each other like, yeah, absolutely,

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01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:07.159
<v Speaker 18>they set us up. And who's they? They answered to

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01:21:07.239 --> 01:21:10.680
<v Speaker 18>Nancy Pelosi, even Mayor Bowser, So yeah, the Democrats set

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01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:13.359
<v Speaker 18>them up. And honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if there

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01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:15.680
<v Speaker 18>were some Rhinos inside Congress who were part of it too.

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01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:18.560
<v Speaker 18>They hate Trump that much, I wouldn't be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, we've seen the Liz Cheney's and the

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01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Adam Kissingers of the world kissing up to the Marxist

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01:21:26.920 --> 01:21:30.720
<v Speaker 1>in office. Who are Democrats? Tim Hale? Where can people

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01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:32.399
<v Speaker 1>find you? What are you doing these days?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 18>I'm getting ready for vindication. You know, there's a lot

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01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:42.199
<v Speaker 18>of things I'm working on. Obviously, I'm talking to a

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01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:46.039
<v Speaker 18>magnanimous fellow such as yourself right now, sir. You know

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<v Speaker 18>I'm working on some things, some writing. I'm actually writing

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<v Speaker 18>on the Gateway Pundit. I'm actually publishing articles about January

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01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:57.279
<v Speaker 18>sixth defendants. Yeah, if people want to follow my trolling,

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01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:00.800
<v Speaker 18>you can find me on Twitter, Tim Hale, criminally funny

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<v Speaker 18>J sixer And as always, sir, I appreciate you having

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<v Speaker 18>me on. And one last thing I'd like to plug.

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<v Speaker 18>Thanksgiving and Christmas are coming up, So there's still a

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<v Speaker 18>couple of months till we get those pardons. So if

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<v Speaker 18>anybody wants to help J six families, please go to

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<v Speaker 18>Patriotfreedomproject dot com. Any donation you make would make a

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<v Speaker 18>world of difference. Thank you so much for having me back.

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<v Speaker 1>The repeat the organization again, Tim, it is.

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<v Speaker 18>Patriotfreedomproject dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sir, God bless you, and Happy Thanksgiving, Tim.

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<v Speaker 18>Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, indeed it should be a happy new year for

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<v Speaker 1>you and everybody else. A new sheriff in town. All right, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>We continue on this nightcap in just a moment after

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<v Speaker 1>a break on seven hundred WLW. The nightcap been to

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<v Speaker 1>another hour on this Tuesday evening on seven hundred WLW

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<v Speaker 1>without any further ado because my guest tells me his

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<v Speaker 1>phone dying. At any moment, we could be cut off,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll get in as much good stuff as we

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<v Speaker 1>can in the meantime. Trevor Louden is an author, filmmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>public speaker from christ Church, New Zealand. More than thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years he's researched radical left, Marxist and terrorist movements and

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<v Speaker 1>their covert influence on mainstream politics and we certainly have

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<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of that in this country. Really, over

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<v Speaker 1>the last hundred years or so, the Communists and the

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<v Speaker 1>Marxists have been trying to take over this last bastion

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<v Speaker 1>of freedom on the globe. To talk about that and

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<v Speaker 1>his film Beneath Sheep's Clothing, Trevor Louden, how are you doing, Trevor?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey? Good?

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<v Speaker 12>What I'm doing great? Hell are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic? So we'll we'll get as much of this as

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<v Speaker 1>we can while your phone is still working. First, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me tell me about the film Beneath Sheep's Clothing and

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<v Speaker 1>what do you.

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<v Speaker 12>Do pay released a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 6>It's s done by a warman, Julie Bieling, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 12>In it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see Janus and the alex Human and many others.

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<v Speaker 6>And what it is is looking at how communism is

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<v Speaker 6>being implemented in America, you know.

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<v Speaker 12>How they go about it.

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<v Speaker 6>The woman Julie Bieling originally serves as a missionary in

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<v Speaker 6>Russia not long after the collapse of communism and studied

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<v Speaker 6>for many years the implementation of communism in that country.

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<v Speaker 11>And was really really interested in the parallels that she

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<v Speaker 11>was seeing back in America and So it's my contention,

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<v Speaker 11>I think, and many of the others, that we're in.

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<v Speaker 12>A communist revolution.

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<v Speaker 6>It's largely complete, and President Trump, in my opinion, as

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<v Speaker 6>a major disrupted to that. But we need to understand

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<v Speaker 6>how this works has been implemented because most people do

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<v Speaker 6>not recognize it.

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<v Speaker 12>For what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>So the film helps people to understand why it is

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<v Speaker 6>and how it works.

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<v Speaker 12>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting that and very very telling that

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<v Speaker 1>in Kamala Harris's speech when she finally spoke about losing

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<v Speaker 1>this latest presidential election, she said, ayah, We've got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep fighting. And that's the thing about communist and Marxist

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<v Speaker 1>they do not give up easily when they've been rebuked

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<v Speaker 1>and rebuffed. They keep coming at you, don't they.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, that driven people.

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<v Speaker 6>And my last book was actually about Kamala Harris as

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<v Speaker 6>a Marxism. You know, she's a pro Chinese communist. She's

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<v Speaker 6>a Maoist, as was the VP to Waltz by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well, and with his associations in China. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean her her father is a well known Marxist professor.

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<v Speaker 6>And this wasn't just her dad and mom was a Marxist.

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<v Speaker 6>She went to a Marxist social club in Great School.

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<v Speaker 6>She she hooked up with the Marxist Willie Brown. She

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<v Speaker 6>was the protege of the Marxist, the very wealthy Mark

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<v Speaker 6>Steve Phillips, associated with the Marxist leaders of Black Lives

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<v Speaker 6>Matter everywhere you look, as pro Chinese Communism with Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no time to take a breath now in

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<v Speaker 1>America that Donald Trump is back in office and he

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<v Speaker 1>will disrupt this movement that is deep seated, not only

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d c. In our federal government, but in

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<v Speaker 1>our schools. They've started infiltrade churches, and I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>film goes through all of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it takes a wide ranging approach because most Americans

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<v Speaker 6>they see all these negative phenomenon They see a wide

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<v Speaker 6>open border. They see indoctrinations and schools, they see the

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<v Speaker 6>transgender movement. They see the gutting of the military, They

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<v Speaker 6>see the destruction of the energy industry.

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<v Speaker 12>They see all of these things, you know, woke sport,

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<v Speaker 12>WoT religion.

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<v Speaker 6>They see all these things, but they don't connect them.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't understand all aspects of the same Marxist revolutionary movement,

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<v Speaker 6>and much of it is leaked right back to China.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's connecting the dots so people understand how all

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<v Speaker 6>these so called separate phenomena are and d linked.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to Trevor Louden, from a spokesperson for the

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<v Speaker 1>film Beneath Sheep's Clothing, about the encroachment of Marxism and

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<v Speaker 1>communism in the United States of America and how it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to what was done in the Soviet Union. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Marxist regimes tend to always eventually fall apart. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the good news, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, well it is.

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<v Speaker 6>But can you imagine the world if America went fully

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<v Speaker 6>Marxist and China and Iran and all the communist regimes

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<v Speaker 6>are allowed to run the world for a few years.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you imagine what we'd looked like? Yeah, it will

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<v Speaker 6>destroy itself, but it's like it's like cancer.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, cancer.

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<v Speaker 6>Invade your body and will eventually die when it destroys

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<v Speaker 6>the host. And that's what communism does. If communism took

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<v Speaker 6>over America would destroy America. But can you think of

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<v Speaker 6>the god awful damage that would be done to all

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<v Speaker 6>of us in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly, well, and we saw a lot of evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>that in the last term, the last president, during Barack

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<v Speaker 1>Obama's eight years in this country, the war.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, Barack Obama was Most Americans still do not understand

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<v Speaker 6>to this day that Barack Obama is and always has

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<v Speaker 6>been a hardcore communist who paved the way for what

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<v Speaker 6>Biden did, and Kamala Harris would have, you know, basically

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<v Speaker 6>sealed the deal. One of the first things she would

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<v Speaker 6>have done.

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<v Speaker 12>Is legalized thirty or forty.

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<v Speaker 6>Million illegal immigrants and give them citizenship and voting rights.

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<v Speaker 6>Then they would have had a permanent majority. You couldn't

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<v Speaker 6>never have voted them out. Ever, it's very well can

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<v Speaker 6>you imagine the damage they would have started to do

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<v Speaker 6>to the country at that point, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean they they've already began, you know. It's very telling

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<v Speaker 1>too that Kamala Harris only one states that have no

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<v Speaker 1>voter ID laws.

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<v Speaker 12>Trevor hmmm, yeah, yeah, Well that's that's a big part.

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<v Speaker 12>As Stalin famously said, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Counts the vote counts.

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<v Speaker 6>The votes that counts, So vote fraud, you know, destroying

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<v Speaker 6>voter and TG is a big part of the communist movement.

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<v Speaker 6>That's how that's how the communist dampower in Venezuela. They

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<v Speaker 6>defraud every single election. That's just standard practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the Wolk ideologies too, that had been pushed, which

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is promising to end. DEI is d o

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<v Speaker 1>a as the Trump people like to say. And and

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<v Speaker 1>that is another stop gap to kind of halt this

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<v Speaker 1>this movement. And you mentioned in the film and in

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<v Speaker 1>the lead up to the film and the information about

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<v Speaker 1>the film that this has been this is not just

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<v Speaker 1>a new thing with Barack Obama or Kamala Harris or

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. This has been going on in this country

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<v Speaker 1>for over one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, it's a century old.

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<v Speaker 6>Phenomenon, and Barack Obama kicked it into overdrive, especially if

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<v Speaker 6>they're legal immigration and Obama Care and the gutting of

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<v Speaker 6>the military and all that kind of thing. Then Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Biden brought in, you know, under his watch, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Black Lives Matter rampaged across the nation. That's a Chinese

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<v Speaker 6>operation right there.

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<v Speaker 12>We had the.

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<v Speaker 6>COVID lockdowns, COVID mandates, all dictated by the Chinese controlled

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<v Speaker 6>World Health Organization. You know, we were under Chinese control

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<v Speaker 6>for two and a half years through COVID, and you

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<v Speaker 6>know Kamala was.

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<v Speaker 12>Ready to seal the deal.

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<v Speaker 6>Kamala was going to put the icing on the car

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<v Speaker 6>and bring this country to full on one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 6>Soviet style Chinese style socialism. And thank god that that

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<v Speaker 6>did not occur. But look, look, I think people need

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<v Speaker 6>to understand if Trump, Trump's going to do a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of great things to turn this back.

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<v Speaker 12>But we've got to be part of this.

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<v Speaker 6>Movement going forward because in two years time, if things

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<v Speaker 6>don't go well, the Democrats take back the House and

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<v Speaker 6>then they take the White House again in twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's back to back to square one. Well, we

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<v Speaker 6>will blow the final chance we have to save this nation.

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<v Speaker 1>A good first step, I believe, and Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>vowed to do this, promised to do this. I'm counting

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<v Speaker 1>on him to do this. Transgender people will not be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed in our military anymore, a direct one and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>degree turn of what we've seen in the military. Where

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what is this deal that the artists have

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just to create chaos and decimate the family

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<v Speaker 1>structure traditionally in America to claim that there's no difference

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<v Speaker 1>between men and women and that you can go from

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<v Speaker 1>one to the other regardless of what the science says.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean xx is x x and x Y is

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<v Speaker 1>x y. I'm sorry, no amount of therapy or drugs

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<v Speaker 1>or surgery is going to change you chromosomally to make

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<v Speaker 1>you the other sex just at your whim because of

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of mental defect.

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<v Speaker 12>Well it is.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the whole basis of wisd and civilization is

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<v Speaker 6>on objective truth, objective science, objective law, objective religion, where everything.

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<v Speaker 12>Is laid out very clearly.

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<v Speaker 6>And I is A and b ASP and black as white,

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<v Speaker 6>white as black, you know, black as black and white

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<v Speaker 6>as what. So, So if you look at the military,

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<v Speaker 6>you know transgending is designed to destroy military discipline. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>that's what is to reduce military effectiveness. The family is

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<v Speaker 6>under attack because the main the bedrock of a western, stable,

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<v Speaker 6>western society are sound, functioning families. So if you can

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<v Speaker 6>weaken the family structure, create divisions in the family, that

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<v Speaker 6>weakens the whole society. So it'll al must be seen

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<v Speaker 6>in the context of a revolutionary process.

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<v Speaker 12>That's the key thing.

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<v Speaker 6>This isn't just stupidity, This isn't just a bunch of

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<v Speaker 6>fruitcakes acting up. This is a very cold calculating scientific,

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<v Speaker 6>sociological revolutionary process directed by the Chinese and other enemies

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<v Speaker 6>of America. You know, a major Chinese businessman funds the

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<v Speaker 6>transgender movement. Why would they do that, you know, if

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<v Speaker 6>it isn't to weaken the main enemy coming of China.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, Trevor. They're not doing it in communist China.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly the opposite. In communists China, they know how

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<v Speaker 1>important those structures are.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, because they understand they're getting ready for war

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<v Speaker 6>and they need tough men who know maths and science

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<v Speaker 6>and whatever. So they don't have an eerie faery education

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<v Speaker 6>that we have here. They want to have strong guys.

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<v Speaker 6>And the same principle applies with drugs. In China, they

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<v Speaker 6>execute marijuana dealers, but they give tax incentives to the

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<v Speaker 6>companies that produce the precursors for the fentinyl that kills

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<v Speaker 6>our kids. So it's not that they're anti drugs. They

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<v Speaker 6>just don't want them there. They want them to wreck

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<v Speaker 6>our society. They don't want any of this transgender stuff

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<v Speaker 6>effeminate men and their society. They just want to encourage

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<v Speaker 6>in our society because they want to strengthen their society

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<v Speaker 6>and weaken out. It's very scientific and it's very logical,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's only logical when you see it in a

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<v Speaker 6>revolutionary context.

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawn. In your birth country of New Zealand, they've

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much taken over, haven't they.

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<v Speaker 12>The Marxist and we recently elected a.

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<v Speaker 6>Moderate conservative in partnership with a very strong libertarian conservative

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<v Speaker 6>party called the Association for Consumers and Taxpayers, which I

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<v Speaker 6>used to be the vice president of. So there's a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of a lot of it's a bit like Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of the bad stuff's been pushed back. But

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<v Speaker 6>under Cinda Adurned for instance, and Crucipkins are a Maroist,

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<v Speaker 6>an actual pro Chinese Marlist, and Jesinda a durn An,

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<v Speaker 6>actual Marxist. We had a we had a horrible situation

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<v Speaker 6>for three or four years in New Zealand. Was very

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<v Speaker 6>heavy socialism, very heavy suspress, suppression of free speech, all

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<v Speaker 6>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>There are European countries too, where the Conservatives have mounted

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<v Speaker 1>new challenges to the Marxist and the Communists and have

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<v Speaker 1>began to swing back towards the right or right center.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a global movement to fight back

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<v Speaker 1>against this evil isn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>This is what I say. You know we are, this

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<v Speaker 6>is a movement. You know, Communism is not about sharing

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<v Speaker 6>the wealth. Communism is about centralizing all wealth and all

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<v Speaker 6>power in a very few hands, which is why the

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<v Speaker 6>globalists and the communists are almost indistinguishable. So what we're

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<v Speaker 6>seeing as the tyrants have got worse and more obvious.

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<v Speaker 6>We really saw this during COVID. The grassroots people around

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<v Speaker 6>the world have finally woken up to the fate that

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<v Speaker 6>we could lose our countries, our children, even our civilization.

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<v Speaker 12>It is that crucial.

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<v Speaker 6>So now we've see these populist uprisings in New Zealand, Australia,

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<v Speaker 6>in Italy and Holland, Canada, United States, but where they're

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<v Speaker 6>all looking to America. They're all absolutely thrilled that Trump

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<v Speaker 6>has got back into office, absolutely thrilled because they see

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<v Speaker 6>what he's going to do, what Melee is doing in Argentina,

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<v Speaker 6>what Maloney is doing in Italy, as the way forward,

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<v Speaker 6>as the shining example to show people that socialism is

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<v Speaker 6>not inevitable, it can be defeated, it must be defeated

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<v Speaker 6>and must be crushed for human freedom to survive. So

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<v Speaker 6>I'm very optimistic with what I see going on around

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<v Speaker 6>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the film's been out for a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>and can people still view that online or wherever?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, just it's beneath cheap's clothing.

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<v Speaker 6>Just go to the website Google ats or get it

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<v Speaker 6>on Amazon. But seriously, it is an absolutely riveting film.

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<v Speaker 6>It is educational, entertaining, and and it doesn't patronize in

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<v Speaker 6>any shape or form. It is very very hardcore at

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<v Speaker 6>truth telling, but done in a very very inspiring way.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's it's a must see.

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<v Speaker 12>It really is a must see. But these sheep's clothing, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's not patronizing like Joe Biden saying, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're black and you don't vote for me, you

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<v Speaker 1>ain't black. It's it's not that, all right, Trevor Loud.

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<v Speaker 6>This is saying, if you're an adult human being, you

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<v Speaker 6>deserve liberty and you better well stand up against those

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<v Speaker 6>who want to take it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, thank you so much for your time. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>your phone held out for the whole.

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<v Speaker 12>Sex quite miraculous.

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<v Speaker 1>So God God must have wanted us to do this interview, Trevor.

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<v Speaker 12>It's all exactly exactly. So it was a pleasure, and

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<v Speaker 12>thanks so much to your listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, thank you, sir, have a great, great rest

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<v Speaker 1>of day and happy Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, thanks same to you, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, bye bye, bye bye. Trevor Lawden. Beneath Sheep's clothing

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<v Speaker 1>is the film. Google it, Safaria to check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to do the same, because I'm very,

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<v Speaker 1>very interested in watching this documentary play out the same

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<v Speaker 1>way we've been watching the Marxists continue their march in

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<v Speaker 1>America until Donald Trump. And like he said, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to remain vigilant. We've got to stop this in our schools,

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<v Speaker 1>in our churches, in our government, in our businesses. This

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<v Speaker 1>is this has got to be halted right here, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our moment to take back the country. And

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean for for white men to take back

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<v Speaker 1>the country. It doesn't mean for any group, but for

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<v Speaker 1>each individual American citizen to take back our birthright and

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<v Speaker 1>get it right again where family matters, where God matters,

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<v Speaker 1>and where free enterprise matters away from a centralized government.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff tonight on the night Cap, and we continue

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<v Speaker 1>in moments after a news break, Gary Jeff with uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see who we got Jared Not, who has written

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<v Speaker 1>a book called Tiny Blunders, Big Mistakes. Oh like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>sending long range missiles to Ukraine to start World War

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<v Speaker 1>three before Donald Trump can take office. Maybe it's all

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<v Speaker 1>coming up on seven hundred WLW.

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