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<v Speaker 1>More than a century ago, in the quiet foothills of

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<v Speaker 1>Alberta's Rocky Mountains, two brothers built a small life together

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<v Speaker 1>along the banks of the Bow River. What began as

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<v Speaker 1>a simple frontier story of imagination, hard work, and opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>would eventually take a dark and violent turn. One spring

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen oh four, that quiet stretch of land became

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<v Speaker 1>the scene of a brutal murder that shocked the small

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<v Speaker 1>community of Canmore. Now, the place where it all happened

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<v Speaker 1>still carries the memory of that crime in its name.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we discussed that story and the place that is

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<v Speaker 1>simply called dead Man's Flats.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked

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<v Speaker 2>and Grim, a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>The following podcast, audience, listener, take a good drink of that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my favorite one, actually is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I don't okay, you guys didn't hear it, but

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole had a massive coughing fit right when I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to record the intro. So make sure you're good. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure your voice is all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you Sometimes when I'm doing like newborn sessions

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, I'll be completely fine, like.

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<v Speaker 1>All photographing them just clarity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sorry, I'm a photographer, as my other jumb right

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<v Speaker 2>into the lingo. And do you know when you like

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<v Speaker 2>aren't allowed or shouldn't cough even though you're completely fine,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you've been completely fine all day, but then you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation and your body just like has this

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<v Speaker 2>need to cough.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh definitely, Okay, I can demonstrate that exact thing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally can. Okay, you ready, Okay, you're itchy right

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<v Speaker 1>now somewhere Oh yeah, I already was, I know, but

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<v Speaker 1>like right now, someone right now is thinking just think

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<v Speaker 1>about you're itchy. There's gonna be somewhe where you're itching.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably like your back or your knee or your elbow.

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<v Speaker 1>Something is gonna itch and you're gonna be cursing my

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<v Speaker 1>name right now because I said it. It's the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with coughing or murphy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is think about breathing, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or blinking, or where your mouth has your tongue sitting

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<v Speaker 1>inside of it? Where does your tongue sit?

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<v Speaker 2>How many people are like fuck off right now, probably

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<v Speaker 2>just getting just irate with us.

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<v Speaker 1>My bad, sorry, but it proves exactly what you're saying. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that Murphy's law, like when you shouldn't be doing something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when it's like, well, now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like yeah, because when you're reading the intro there,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have to be really quiet and then and

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<v Speaker 2>I was fine, but then all of a sudden, this

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<v Speaker 2>tickle and it just like progressively got worse and I

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to hold it in and I just couldn't anymore. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, I do that a lot at newborn sessions,

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<v Speaker 2>do being like I don't want parents to think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sick and I'm not sick, but then my body's like

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<v Speaker 2>a you're gonna call screw.

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<v Speaker 1>You anyways being sick and where your tongue should sit

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<v Speaker 1>inside your mouth if you're itchy? 're not all set aside?

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<v Speaker 1>Have an interesting Canadian case for you today. Yeah, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, there is not a lot of detail

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding this case, so I did the best I could

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<v Speaker 1>because of the lack of detail. This might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a shorter episode, but I think it

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<v Speaker 1>did pretty good. Okay, it's a bit of a well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a true crime case mixed with a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>history in there too.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on, these are both places that I want to well,

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<v Speaker 2>can more I've never been to and it's like right

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<v Speaker 2>by a bamf. It's another place I want to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>How have I not been to these places?

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<v Speaker 1>I've only driven through because I have gone to Calgary

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<v Speaker 1>Comic and Entertainment Expo many times because I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a nerd and you're not. So I've driven through

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<v Speaker 1>there on my way to Calgary many times without you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been through these places and I know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where this is. Haven't been to the place, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>been through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, let's hear about this.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you step back in time more than a century,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rocky Mountains would feel very different than they are today.

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<v Speaker 1>Long before highways cut through the valleys and travelers passed through.

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<v Speaker 1>By the thousands, the mountains were a lot quieter, The

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<v Speaker 1>forests were thicker, the towns were smaller, and much of

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<v Speaker 1>the land between them while they remained wide open and untouched,

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<v Speaker 1>very vast and untamed. Now. In those days, people came

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<v Speaker 1>west chasing opportunity. Some arrived with dreams, you know, striking

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<v Speaker 1>it rich in the mines. Others hoped to carve out

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<v Speaker 1>a much more simple life on the land, raising animals,

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<v Speaker 1>farming what they could and building homes whenever the valleys

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<v Speaker 1>allowed it. Now, life in the mountains could be peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful, but it was also very isolated, stood miles apart,

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<v Speaker 1>and news traveled extremely slow, and when something happened in

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<v Speaker 1>those remote places, it often unfolded far from the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>of the outside world. Most days would pass very quietly,

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<v Speaker 1>but every so often something would happen that people simply

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't forget. It may be a single random moment, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a violent act, even a story whispered between neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>until the land itself began to carry the memory of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes those stories linger long enough that the place

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<v Speaker 1>where they happened eventually makes you know what its way

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<v Speaker 1>into history, even potentially its name of the land itself. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Long before this place became a rest stop along the

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<v Speaker 1>Trans Canada Highway, the Bow Valley area in Alberta, Canada

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<v Speaker 1>was already an important route through the Rocky Mountains. For

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of years, Indigenous groups, including the Stony Nakota, used

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<v Speaker 1>the valley as a natural corridor through the rugged life landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>Later came explorers, furd traders, and settlers, all following the

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<v Speaker 1>same path. Carved by the Bow River as it wound

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<v Speaker 1>through the mountains, and by the late eighteen hundreds the

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<v Speaker 1>region was beginning to change. The arrival of the Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Railway in eighteen eighty three opened the valley to

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<v Speaker 1>large numbers of newcomers. Coal was soon discovered in the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding mountains, and the small settlement of Canmore quickly grew

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<v Speaker 1>into a busy mining town. Workers arrived from across Canada

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<v Speaker 1>and even Europe, drawn by the promise of a steady

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<v Speaker 1>job in the mines and the chance to build a

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<v Speaker 1>new life on the frontier. But despite the growing industry nearby,

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<v Speaker 1>much of the surrounding land remained quiet and isolated. Now

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<v Speaker 1>just southeast of Canmore, the Bow River flattened out as

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<v Speaker 1>it flowed past the base of Pigeon Mountain. Here the

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<v Speaker 1>river spilled across a stretch of low, open ground, an

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<v Speaker 1>area locals simply referred to as the flats in the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen hundreds. It was very peaceful, dotted with small

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<v Speaker 1>homesteads and farms that were far removed from the noise

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<v Speaker 1>of the mines. It was on this quiet stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>land along the banks of the Bow River that a

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<v Speaker 1>small dairy farm once stood, and it was here, in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring of nineteen o four, that a violent crime

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<v Speaker 1>would take place and give the landscape the ominous name

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<v Speaker 1>of dead Man's Flats. But long before the story of

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<v Speaker 1>dead Man's Flats unfolded in the Canadian Rockies, it began

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of kilometers away in rural France. The Marrat family

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<v Speaker 1>lived in the Overne region, a rugged area of mountains

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<v Speaker 1>and farmlands in central France. Their parents, Pierre and Anne Marat,

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<v Speaker 1>were cattle farmers, raising their children in a modest rural

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<v Speaker 1>life built around hard work and survival off the land.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Pierre and Anne had a total of six children,

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<v Speaker 1>though two of them unfortunately died young, which was not

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<v Speaker 1>the most uncommon for the time. The four surviving siblings

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<v Speaker 1>were Jean Louis, Francois, and their younger sister Eugenie. Like

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<v Speaker 1>many young men in the area of France, the brothers

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<v Speaker 1>spent time in the military. Several of them served in

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<v Speaker 1>the French Army, gain experience that would later shape their

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<v Speaker 1>lives in rather unexpected ways, but Francois in particular had

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<v Speaker 1>a difficult military history. At some point during his service,

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<v Speaker 1>he was discharged from the army, though the exact reasons

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<v Speaker 1>are not entirely clear in any sort of surviving records,

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<v Speaker 1>but that might highlight some things later on. Now. Life

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<v Speaker 1>in rural France at the end of the nineteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>could be difficult. Opportunities were limited, and many young men

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<v Speaker 1>dreamed of leaving for a place where fortunes could be made.

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<v Speaker 1>News of opportunity overseas, especially in North America, so bread

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<v Speaker 1>quickly through villages and farming communities. For the Marrit brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>that promise of opportunity eventually became too strong for them

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<v Speaker 1>to ignore, and by the late eighteen nineties, two of

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<v Speaker 1>the brothers made a decision that would set the entire

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<v Speaker 1>story into motion. They would leave France behind and try

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<v Speaker 1>their luck in Canada. It was in eighteen ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>when the two brothers, Jean and Louis, left France and

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<v Speaker 1>set out for North America. Like thousands of other immigrants

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, they arrived with very little money in

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<v Speaker 1>their pockets, but with the hope that Canada offered a

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<v Speaker 1>chance at a much better life. Their journey eventually brought

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<v Speaker 1>them to the Beau Valley area in Alberta, a remote

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<v Speaker 1>but rapidly developing place in the Rocky Mountains. The small

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<v Speaker 1>mining town of Canmore had begun to grow after the

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<v Speaker 1>coal was discovered in the surrounding mountains, and the Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Railway made it easier for everyone in supplies to

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<v Speaker 1>reach the region. Now. When John first arrived in canon More,

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<v Speaker 1>he found work as a night guard at the dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>storage area used in the local coal mines. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>glamorous work, but it was steady, and it gave him

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to get established in the new region and country. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>over time, John began building something of his own. It

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<v Speaker 1>was along the Bow River flats, not far from the

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<v Speaker 1>base of Pigeon Mountain. There he started operating a small

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<v Speaker 1>dairy farm. The land there was relatively open compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the surrounding mountains, and the nearby river made it very

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<v Speaker 1>suitable for farming. Life here on the flats was quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>The nearest town was Cammore, which was several kilometers away,

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<v Speaker 1>and the dairy farm sat in a stretch of valley

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<v Speaker 1>where the river widened and slowed as it passed through

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<v Speaker 1>on the low ground.

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<v Speaker 2>That kind of sounds like heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>It does sound like heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Having a little farm in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people nowadays kind of dream

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<v Speaker 1>of having something like that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because it so I'm picturing like this piece

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<v Speaker 2>of land it like overlooked the river and had like

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<v Speaker 2>just like a picturesque kind of view.

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<v Speaker 1>Right yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically oh and then they yeah, had cows like oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, Now the flats is like it is very flat,

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<v Speaker 1>so like he's probably not too high above the river.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like very big banks or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, like picture if even more pretty?

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<v Speaker 1>Really oh definitely, Yeah, the picture like that river rising

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<v Speaker 1>would soon like engulf the land if there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>major flood or something like that. Right. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that was exactly common, but just an idea on how

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<v Speaker 1>flat it was. So you have to think, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this area was it was shaped by the river, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually it kind of flattened out, carving its way through

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains, and then slowly it became a smaller stream

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<v Speaker 1>of water over the years, the decades, the centuries, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because yeah, honestly, living by water like that could

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit freaky. We have some areas in

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<v Speaker 2>our town that are pretty close to the river and

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<v Speaker 2>they flood like every few years. Yeah, it's occasional, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like that must kind of be stressful and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sok.

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<v Speaker 1>Seing the water is so good for the soul though,

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<v Speaker 2>It just fills your cup.

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<v Speaker 1>It does. Now. Jean worked hard to build a stable

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen hundreds, another member of the Marritt family would

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<v Speaker 1>two that word of the Marrett brothers new life in

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<v Speaker 1>after that their younger brother, Francois decided to follow them

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't exactly easy. There were long days of work

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<v Speaker 1>After about fifteen months of working with his brother, he

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<v Speaker 2>That is fair, okay, we have ten chickens and I

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<v Speaker 1>That's only I.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't imagine how many cows they have. But also he

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<v Speaker 2>would have kind of known what this work was like, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he would have had to help. I imagine their farm

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his parents had a bit of a farm as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so he should have known. It's not like, you know

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, maybe he didn't. Like I guess it would

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<v Speaker 2>be different though, working for your brother versus like your parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Per se too well, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of it might have been, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>Life to the same thing basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so maybe it was just that swap. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>what he's expecting. Yeah, and then a lure of well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's to come of these industries that are progressing? Bigger money?

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<v Speaker 2>Right right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean next I have written here, Like many men

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bow Valley area at the time, he eventually

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<v Speaker 1>found work in the coal mines near Canmore. So the

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<v Speaker 1>coal mines probably paid a lot better. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more hard work, it's a lot more dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the basically the best paying job in the area. Now. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the third brother, Louis, he had his sight set on

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<v Speaker 1>something else entirely, the Klondike gold Rush. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>drawing thing for prospectors in the North and it was

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<v Speaker 1>pulling them in by the thousands, and Louis soon left

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<v Speaker 1>the Beau Valley area behind to try his luck in

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<v Speaker 1>the Yukon. Now, that left Jean and Francois in the

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<v Speaker 1>valley together. Now, by most accounts, the two brothers were

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<v Speaker 1>very different people. Jean was seen as responsible and hard working,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of man who built something for himself through

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<v Speaker 1>persistence and discipline. But Francois, on the other hand, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was quieter and a lot more unpredictable. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>described him even as withdrawn and even a little strange.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, these differences may have seemed harmless, but as

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<v Speaker 1>time passed in Beau Valley, the behavior of Francois began

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<v Speaker 1>to grow increasingly strange. According to later testimony, Francois started

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<v Speaker 1>to hear things that no one else could hear. He

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<v Speaker 1>claimed voices spoke to him, ones that he said belonged

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<v Speaker 1>to his dead parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, here, I just thought he was having trouble

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<v Speaker 2>adjusting to a new country.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a little bit more, a little bit more intense.

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<v Speaker 1>So he said they were coming to him and speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to him from beyond the grave. And along with the

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<v Speaker 1>voices also came a constant buzzing sound in his head

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<v Speaker 1>that he said he could never escape it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>always there. Now. As time passed, these experiences began to

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<v Speaker 1>shape how he saw the world around him in dark

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<v Speaker 1>and very strange ways. In fact, Francois became convinced that

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<v Speaker 1>his brother Jean was plotting to kill him. In his mind,

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<v Speaker 1>Jean had built some kind of invisible electrical machine that

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<v Speaker 1>he hid somewhere in the nearby forest. Francois said he

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<v Speaker 1>could hear this strange device whirling at times, even though

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<v Speaker 1>he admitted he had never actually seen it. Now, whether

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<v Speaker 1>he had seen it in his own eye or not,

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<v Speaker 1>though it didn't matter, because to him, this machine was real,

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<v Speaker 1>and the voices in his head reinforced this belief too.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Francois, the voice of his parents warned him

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<v Speaker 1>that Jean was dangerous and that he needed to defend

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<v Speaker 1>himself against Jean before it was too late.

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<v Speaker 2>Oo. Okay, this is not good now.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether the cause of this mental illness in Francois was

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<v Speaker 1>trauma from his early military service or something else entirely,

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<v Speaker 1>the paranoia continued to grow. Doctors who would later examine

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<v Speaker 1>him believed he was suffering from severe hallucinations tied to

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<v Speaker 1>a deep mental disorder that they couldn't really figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>Some experts even suggested the condition may have been linked

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<v Speaker 1>to his time serving in the French Foreign Legion in Africa,

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<v Speaker 1>where harsh conditions and years of extreme hardship could leave

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<v Speaker 1>lasting psychological damage. But in the quiet isolation of beau

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<v Speaker 1>Valley in the early nineteen hundreds, well, there were few

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<v Speaker 1>ways for someone struggling with mental illness to receive any help.

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<v Speaker 1>And my likely guess is probably the only way was

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<v Speaker 1>I bet at the bottom of a bottle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I mean even today it's still it's come

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculously far, but it's sometimes still somewhat misunderstood for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Back then it's like you kind of almost hooped.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on your own basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as francois fears deepened, the line between reality and

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<v Speaker 1>imagination began to blur more and more, and by the

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<v Speaker 1>spring of nineteen oh four, the situation had reached a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous point. Francois had become convinced that his brother was

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<v Speaker 1>an enemy who needed to be stopped. Then tensions in

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<v Speaker 1>inside France was mind reached a crescendo. The voices he

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to hear, the buzzing sounds, and his belief that

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<v Speaker 1>his brother was trying to kill him. Had all become

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<v Speaker 1>part of his everyday thinking, and on May tenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh four, something happened. Francois borrowed an axe from a

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<v Speaker 1>woman named Ella may Lauder. Now, borrowing tools between neighbors,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, wasn't unusual in small frontier communities like Beau Valley,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time there was nothing about the request

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed suspicious. But in hindsight, the moment carried a

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<v Speaker 1>much darker meaning, because that very axe would become the

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<v Speaker 1>weapon he used in the brutal act that followed. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>whether Francois had already decided what he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do or whether the plan formed some time later that

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<v Speaker 1>night isn't entirely clear, but what is known is that

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<v Speaker 1>the act stayed with him after he borrowed it. As

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<v Speaker 1>night fell over the quiet flats along Bow River, the

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<v Speaker 1>Merritt brothers returned to their usual routine. Their small cabin

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<v Speaker 1>sat in the isolated stretch of land where Pigeon Creek

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<v Speaker 1>met Bow River, surrounded by forest and open valley. To

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<v Speaker 1>anyone passing by, it would have looked just like another

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful evening in the mountains. But inside that cabin, however,

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<v Speaker 1>darkness had crept inside. It was in the early morning

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<v Speaker 1>of May eleventh, nineteen o four. The Quiet Dairy Farm

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<v Speaker 1>long Bow River was still wrapped in darkness, and around

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<v Speaker 1>five thirty a m. Francois Marette got out of bed

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<v Speaker 1>and retrieved the axe he had borrowed that day before,

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<v Speaker 1>while his brother Jean was still sleeping. Jean Marette was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two years old at the time. He was hard working.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a dairy farmer who had gone to bed

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<v Speaker 1>expecting to wake up and begin another day of work

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<v Speaker 1>on the farm, but he never got that chance. Francois

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<v Speaker 1>loomed over his brother, clutching the axe in his hands,

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<v Speaker 1>staring down as his brother slept, and then he attacked

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<v Speaker 1>him in his bed. The murder was sudden and brutal,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was carried out before Jean had any opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to defend himself, and once the attack was over, Francois

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<v Speaker 1>was left alone in the cabin with the blood and

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<v Speaker 1>his brother's lifeless body.

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<v Speaker 2>That is some savage ass shit, Yes, using an axe

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<v Speaker 2>as a weapon. I just don't think that I could

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<v Speaker 2>ever be okay with that, because that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's visceral.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the visual of anyone killing someone with an axe

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<v Speaker 2>just seems ridiculously brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to talk about getting personal in an attack,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think hammers and axes are the two

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<v Speaker 1>that like scream personal because it's going to be savage,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be bloody, it's going to be brutal,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And this brother, he was just sleeping. He caind

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<v Speaker 2>wonder though if he had, well, he would never probably

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<v Speaker 2>thought his brother would do something like this, But he

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<v Speaker 2>would have had to have noticed some sort of change

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<v Speaker 2>in his brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he did notice there was some change, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. Yeah, like you say, he would never

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, sometimes after afterward, he carried John's body outside and

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<v Speaker 1>brought it down to the nearby Bow river, and there

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<v Speaker 1>he disposed of his brother by throwing his body into

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the river flowed past the low, open stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>spread across the valley floor, so he wouldn't be taken

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<v Speaker 1>away very fast. In fact, he wouldn't have been taken

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<v Speaker 1>very far and before long the body would be discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>But at that moment, in the early morning light of

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<v Speaker 1>May eleventh, only one person knew what had happened, still

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<v Speaker 1>inside that cabin. But afterwards Francois did something that would

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<v Speaker 1>quickly draw attention to himself. Rather than fleeing the area,

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<v Speaker 1>he went about his morning almost as if you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing had happened, And at some point after the murder,

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<v Speaker 1>Francois traveled to Canmore, the small mining town several kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>away where he'd been working in the coal mines. When

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<v Speaker 1>he arrived, he reportedly began telling people that his brother

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to be coming to town that day because

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<v Speaker 1>he too did some work. He didn't just work full

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<v Speaker 1>time at the farm. So he was telling people, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>his brother's not going to be coming to work today.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not coming. Now. That was odd, It was odd

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<v Speaker 1>for him to make a statement like that, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go unnoticed. People paid attention when something seemed off

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<v Speaker 1>or out of place, especially when someone began offering explanations

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<v Speaker 1>for things before anyone had even asked any questions, And

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<v Speaker 1>so before long word reached the authorities, the Northwest Mounted Police,

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<v Speaker 1>the Law enforcement that was operating across the Canadian frontier

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<v Speaker 1>at the time began looking into the situation. Meanwhile, along

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<v Speaker 1>the Bow River Flats, Jean's body did not remain hidden

425
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:42.680
<v Speaker 1>after being thrown into the river. It drifted to that

426
00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:47.680
<v Speaker 1>shallow stretch and was eventually discovered. Once the situation became clear,

427
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the Northwest Mounted Police began investigating the killing, and their

428
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<v Speaker 1>attention quickly turned towards Francois.

429
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here, I was thinking he could have just gone

430
00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:00.279
<v Speaker 2>into town and been like, my brother's on well, he's

431
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>not feeling good, he's gonna you know, he's at home sick.

432
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.559
<v Speaker 2>But then if they're going to find him anyway, because

433
00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the river gets very shallow, so.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Well, he could have just not said anything, maybe disposed

435
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of his brother in a different way, and potentially got

436
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>away with it. Yeah, you're talking like the early nineteen hundreds.

437
00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>On a farm, no one's going to question if you

438
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:21.400
<v Speaker 1>dig a little bit of a hole and bury something

439
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:21.640
<v Speaker 1>in it.

440
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Or even if he had just gone to work

441
00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:28.599
<v Speaker 2>too and like pretended like nothing was out of the normal,

442
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:32.759
<v Speaker 2>and then he just said this happened while he was

443
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.640
<v Speaker 2>at work or something, right, like, well, I don't I.

444
00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Mean he was attacked with an axe. You know, who's

445
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<v Speaker 1>going to attack him with an axe?

446
00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Might be some sort of person that's like, I don't know,

447
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:45.559
<v Speaker 2>doesn't like his brother could happen.

448
00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you're in a remote area in a cabin.

449
00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:51.519
<v Speaker 1>The likelihood of someone else coming in attacking him with

450
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>an ass is slim, is very slim. So he's going

451
00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:57.079
<v Speaker 1>to be suspect number one right away. So you have

452
00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to hide the body to try and get away with it.

453
00:24:59.799 --> 00:25:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But yeah, like you said, just bury a hole.

454
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.319
<v Speaker 2>He probably would have gotten away with it probably.

455
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Where did I leave off here? Okay? So once

456
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the situation was clear, the Northwest Mounted Police began investigating

457
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and their attention turned to Francois, and later that same morning,

458
00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 1>officers located him at Okaloosa Hotel in Canmore, where he

459
00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>was placed under arrest. From there, France who was taken

460
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.759
<v Speaker 1>into custody and charged with the murder of his brother.

461
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<v Speaker 1>For the people living in Bow Valley, the crime was shocking.

462
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Violent killings were extremely rare in small mountain communities of

463
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the early nineteen hundreds like this, and not long after

464
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.880
<v Speaker 1>his arrest, Francois was brought to Calgary. He was brought

465
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:40.319
<v Speaker 1>there to stand trial for the murder of his brother.

466
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:45.599
<v Speaker 1>During this time, serious criminal cases were smaller communities had

467
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to deal with these. They couldn't have the capacity to

468
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 1>take it on, so communities like Canmore, for example, they

469
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>were often sent to or sent to their culprits. They're

470
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>people who do these crimes to larger regions for the

471
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>courts and the capacity of them taking care of it

472
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:04.599
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. So the trial began almost two weeks after

473
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.519
<v Speaker 1>the killing, moving very quickly by modern standards.

474
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<v Speaker 2>We're no kidding, I'm like, I love a streamline this

475
00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:11.960
<v Speaker 2>is and also it was like, same day you killed

476
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 2>your brother, you're arrested exactly now.

477
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.119
<v Speaker 1>What followed in the courtroom left many people struggling to

478
00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:21.559
<v Speaker 1>understand what had been going through France Wois's mind. During testimony,

479
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.519
<v Speaker 1>Francois openly admitted that he had killed his brother, but

480
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the explanation he offered, while it was very unsettling to everyone.

481
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>He told the courts that he believed Jean was trying

482
00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to murder him using the aforementioned mysterious electrical machine hidden

483
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the forest. According to Francois, he heard the

484
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.599
<v Speaker 1>strange device for on multiple occasions, just describing that whirling

485
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>sound that convinced him his life was in danger. Now,

486
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I do have two quotes that I already kind of

487
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>alluded to from Francois himself during testimony, one being quote

488
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to kill my brother because Jean tried to

489
00:26:55.640 --> 00:27:00.160
<v Speaker 1>kill me with a whirring electric machine. And quote number two.

490
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I never saw the machine, but I heard it several.

491
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Times, and I'm assuming it's safe to assume that this

492
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>machine just did not exist, correct.

493
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Speaker 1>I think it's safe to assume that, yes, okay. He

494
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>also told the courts of hearing the voices of his

495
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:19.039
<v Speaker 1>dead parents that spoke to him, warning him that John

496
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 1>was planning to kill him. So, in his mind, basically,

497
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 1>the attack, well it was it was an act of

498
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 1>self defense. Other testimony offered different possibility for motives as well.

499
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>One witness suggested that Francois may have been angry that

500
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Jean had refused to pay him for work that he'd

501
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>done on the dairy farm. But as the trial continued,

502
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it became increasingly clear that Francois's mental health would become

503
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 1>the central issue of this case. Medical experts were called

504
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to testify about his condition, and doctors described the voices

505
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and hallucinations as signs of serious mental illness. So after

506
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>hearing the testimony and medical opinions, the jury was left

507
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:01.400
<v Speaker 1>with a very difficult task to side the fate of

508
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Francois Moret. There was very little debate about whether Francois

509
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>had committed the killings. I mean, he himself had admitted

510
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to attacking his brother with the acts in the first place,

511
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>but the real question before the court was whether he'd

512
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>been mentally capable of understanding his actions. The testimony about

513
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the voices, the invisible electrical machine, and his growing paranoia

514
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 1>weighed heavily on the case. At first, the jury found

515
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.000
<v Speaker 1>him guilty of the killing, but under the law at

516
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the time, that was not the end of the matter.

517
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 1>The court still had to decide whether he was legally

518
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:42.039
<v Speaker 1>responsible for the crime, and ultimately the court ruled that

519
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Francois Moret was not guilty by reason of insanity.

520
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so even back then they kind of took that

521
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>into consideration. Yes they did, which for some reason surprises

522
00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 2>me a little.

523
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>So, rather than being sent to prison, he was ordered

524
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.039
<v Speaker 1>to be confined to a mental inn institution for the

525
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 1>rest of his life. Authorities transferred him to the Brandon

526
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Asylum in Manitoba, one of the psychiatric institutions used at

527
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the time to house people considered criminally insane. For the

528
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.079
<v Speaker 1>small community of Beau Valley, the verdict closed the legal

529
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 1>chapter of this story. The man responsible was removed from

530
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 1>society and that was that but the story, while it's

531
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>not entirely over from here. After the trial, Francois Moret

532
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.839
<v Speaker 1>was transported over to the asylum and very little is

533
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>known about his day to day life there. Records from

534
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 1>the early nineteen hundreds are limited, and much of the

535
00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>details surrounding his time there has been lost over the years.

536
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>What is known, though, is that he remained confined at

537
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Brandon for several years following the trial, and Francois was

538
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:49.599
<v Speaker 1>a young man when the crime took place, but his

539
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>time in the institution was short. On October seventh, nineteen

540
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 1>oh nine, just five years after the murder of his brother,

541
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Francois Moret died at the asylum. He was only thirty

542
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>one years old.

543
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, shit, I was like he got out.

544
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get out, no, And we don't.

545
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Know why he died or how he died.

546
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>No, not from what I could find.

547
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's too bad.

548
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I imagine treatment at those places at those

549
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>times were not the best. So my imagination can only

550
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>come up with a few stories.

551
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, and then true like as well, when you get sick,

552
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 2>there's less that can be done and stuff too.

553
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Yet for sure, and I mean honestly, who knows. They

554
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>could have lobotomized him and things gone downhill after that.

555
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Who knows the It's a plethora of different things. Now,

556
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>some later accounts have suggested that he may have taken

557
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 1>his own life, though exact circumstances surrounding his death they're

558
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just unclear. But there are some places out there that

559
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 1>claim this could be true, but it's not really known

560
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.119
<v Speaker 1>still now. Like many details from the era, the records

561
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>are simply incomplete and we may never know the full truth.

562
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>And with his death and responsible for the killing at

563
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 1>the Bow River Dairy Farm faded into history. But the

564
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>story was still not going to end there, because while

565
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the tragedy between John and Francois was unfolding at that time,

566
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>their older brother Louis was chasing an opportunity far to

567
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 1>the north, like thousands of others. At the turn of

568
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the century, Louis had been drawn to the Klondike gold Rush.

569
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 1>Prospectors flooded into the Yukon hoping to strike it rich,

570
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 1>and for the most of them their dream never materialized.

571
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>But for Louis, however, it did. In nineteen o six,

572
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 1>reports began appearing in newspapers describing a significant gold discovery

573
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 1>at Baker Creek on the Stuart River in Yukon. One

574
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 1>of the claims there was owned by Louis Morett. According

575
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 1>to an article printed in the Dawson Daily News on

576
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 1>May eleventh, nineteen oh six, the claim was producing strong results,

577
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and the report described quote fine pay being pulled from

578
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 1>the ground and even mentioned that nuggets were occasionally being

579
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 1>found too.

580
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like that because I feel like this family

581
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of has really shitty luck. So I'm glad that

582
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 2>I guess one of them is, you know, at least

583
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of thriving.

584
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, thriving is a good word for it, because

585
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:20.799
<v Speaker 1>by some estimates, Louis Morett earned around four hundred and

586
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand dollars in gold between nineteen oh five and

587
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh six, which is an enormous fortune. For the time. Yeah,

588
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 1>and you adjust that to modern value, that's roughly eighteen

589
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.720
<v Speaker 1>million Canadian oly shit.

590
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>He struck rich.

591
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 1>He struck it rich. It's an incredible contrast to the

592
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 1>events that took place back in Bow Valley just a

593
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of years earlier.

594
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 2>To say that's kidding.

595
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 1>But Louis's life later became something of a mystery. Historical

596
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>records suggest that he eventually moved to Washington State sometime

597
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>after nineteen eleven, where he married twice and later enlisted

598
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>in the United States Army as a field artillery officer

599
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>during the First World War. However, the war ended before

600
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 1>he was deployed. Despite the fortune he was believed to

601
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.119
<v Speaker 1>have made during the gold rush, there is little evidence

602
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 1>that Louis actually lived the life of a wealthy man.

603
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>People who later looked into his story found that he

604
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 1>worked a variety of ordinary jobs, and there was no

605
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 1>clear explanation for what happened to the gold that he

606
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>had once earned. Now, another unusual detail about the surviving

607
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>members of the Moret family also emerged over time. Both

608
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Louis and his brother Francois ultimately chose not to have children,

609
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>or at least not biologically instead they adopted. Now, some

610
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>family researchers have suggested that concerns about hereditary mental illness

611
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>may have played a role in the decision, reflecting ideas

612
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.759
<v Speaker 1>about genetics or anything like that circulating that era. Now,

613
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever the reason, the Moret family story ended up taking

614
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.759
<v Speaker 1>dramatically different paths when you look at it. One brother

615
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>died in an asylum after committing the brutal murder of

616
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 1>another brother, while another brother struck rich on gold in

617
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 1>the Yukon and then quietly disappeared into history. But the

618
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>place where the tragedy happened, the quiet stretch of land

619
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 1>along the Bow River, would eventually take on a name

620
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.119
<v Speaker 1>that kept the memory of that dark moment. The story

621
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of these brothers all alive the years ticked by, But

622
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't going to be the end. Farms, small homesteads,

623
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:26.079
<v Speaker 1>and mining operations remained scattered across Bow Valley, and the

624
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.199
<v Speaker 1>story of the killing. Yeah, sure, it faded into history,

625
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>but it didn't fade from local memory. At some point

626
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>in the early nineteen hundreds, locals began referring to the

627
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.280
<v Speaker 1>area as dead Man's Flat. Exactly when the name first

628
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 1>appeared isn't clear, but evidence suggests that it already had

629
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 1>common use well before the mid twentieth century. One clue

630
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:55.039
<v Speaker 1>appears in August twenty fifth, nineteen twenty four's edition of

631
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.679
<v Speaker 1>the Calgary Herald, which used the name dead Man's Flats,

632
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>showing that the nickname had had been circulating for decades.

633
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.679
<v Speaker 1>But over time, the origin of the name became a

634
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>subject of debate. While many believe it referenced the nineteen

635
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>oh four axe murder of Jean Morett, other explanations began

636
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<v Speaker 1>to surface two One popular story involved two Stony Nakota

637
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<v Speaker 1>trappers who'd been illegally trapping beaver in the area. When

638
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<v Speaker 1>a park warden approached their camp. With no way to escape,

639
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<v Speaker 1>the men well, they supposedly covered themselves in beaver blood,

640
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 1>laid down on the ground, and pretended to be dead.

641
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<v Speaker 1>According to the tale, the wardens saw this, ran off

642
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<v Speaker 1>to go get help, and the trappers took the opportunity

643
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<v Speaker 1>to escape with their pelts.

644
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<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, that's actually incredibly smart.

645
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<v Speaker 1>That's quite the story, right.

646
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

647
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>However, historians have pointed out some problems with this story.

648
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<v Speaker 1>There are no records of such an incident in the

649
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>park warden's reports. Ever, taking place, and if two men

650
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<v Speaker 1>had played dead, some have suggested the name would have

651
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<v Speaker 1>likely been dead Men's Flats, not dead Man's Flats, being pluralized.

652
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah.

653
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<v Speaker 1>Another explanation surface decades later. In nineteen fifty four, the

654
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<v Speaker 1>Calgary Herald reported a story claiming that a prospector had

655
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<v Speaker 1>been murdered in a cabin near the river, and then

656
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 1>that would be where the name dead Man's Flats came

657
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>from from that killing. But this explanation also has issues.

658
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 1>The name dead Man's Flats had already appeared in newspapers

659
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>decades earlier prior to this, suggesting that it had been

660
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>in use long before this supposed prospector's murder took place.

661
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Because of that, many local historians believe the most likely

662
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>explanation is still the simplest one. But the name dead

663
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Man's Flats traces back to the violent killing of Jean

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<v Speaker 1>mart in nineteen oh four, when his brother Francois murdered

665
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>him threw his body into the river, and then it

666
00:36:56.320 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 1>became known as dead Man's Flats, with the name sticking

667
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 1>over time. Now for decades, that name existed mostly as

668
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a local nickname and that was it. But things began

669
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 1>to change in the mid twentieth century. The construction of

670
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 1>the Trans Canada Highway in the nineteen fifties brought a

671
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<v Speaker 1>steady flow of travelers through the valley. What had once

672
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:22.079
<v Speaker 1>been a remote farming area gradually turned into a convenient

673
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 1>stop for motorists, truck drivers, and tourists passing between Calgary

674
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:31.599
<v Speaker 1>and the infamous vamp gas stations. Motels and service businesses

675
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>began appearing along the highway, and the area slowly developed

676
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>into a small commercial service center. For a time, the

677
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 1>official name of the community was something much less dramatic.

678
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Between nineteen seventy four and nineteen eighty five, the settlement

679
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>was formerly known as Pigeon Mountain Service Center, referencing the

680
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>nearby mountain rather than the darker local legend. But the

681
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>older name had never really disappeared from local use, and

682
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>then official actually made a decision that surprised some people.

683
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.039
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty five, they gave the adopted name to

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<v Speaker 1>the community as the new official name. It was now

685
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 1>officially called dead Man's Flats. According to the local historians

686
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and municipal leaders, the unusual name was chosen partly because

687
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 1>it was memorable and helped, you know, attract curiosity from

688
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 1>travelers passing through Bow Valley, but not everyone loved the name.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty fourteen, a resident asked the municipal district to

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<v Speaker 1>consider changing it to something a little more pleasant. Some

691
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>people felt the name was too grim for a modern community,

692
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 1>but after discussing the request, local counselors voted unanimously to

693
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<v Speaker 1>keep the name.

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00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>That's actually impressive, it is, but we don't really need

695
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.239
<v Speaker 2>to hide that bad shit happens either, right, I mean.

696
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, exactly very aware. And part of the reasoning was like,

697
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, historical, like the name had been used for

698
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>how however, many generations, so a lot of people felt

699
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it represented, you know, an authentic piece of local history,

700
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>rather than something that should just be erased and covered

701
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 1>up with, you know, a pretty name. Because right now,

702
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>as one local official explained at the time, changing it

703
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>would risk becoming a form of historical revision, removing a

704
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>reminder of events that shaped the identity of this very place,

705
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.599
<v Speaker 1>and so the name remained today. Dead Man's Flats is

706
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.199
<v Speaker 1>the small but growing community that's tucked along Bow Valley,

707
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:36.039
<v Speaker 1>just seven kilometers southeast of Canmore and about seventy eight

708
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>kilometers west of Calgary. Travelers passing through on the Trans

709
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Canada Highway might stop for fuel, a meal, or a

710
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 1>night at one of the motels before continuing deeper into

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00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the Rocky Mountains. What was once a quiet stretch of

712
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 1>farmland along the Bow River has slowly developed into a

713
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.639
<v Speaker 1>service hub for travelers and a residential area for people

714
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 1>working in the nearby communities. According to the twenty twenty

715
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>one Eightian Census, the area has a population of three

716
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy seven residents, which is a significant increase

717
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 1>from just one hundred and twenty five people in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but just hold hold the horse here for a

719
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:19.559
<v Speaker 2>sec Like their address is actually like dead Man's Flats, correct, Okay,

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00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I can kind of understand that that residence. Kind of

721
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<v Speaker 2>concerned then that that is a videary I suppose, Okay.

722
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.519
<v Speaker 1>That's where they live. They live in dead Man's Flats.

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00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay.

724
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So with new housing proposals and development plans, the small

725
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.719
<v Speaker 1>settlement continues to grow, but behind the modern buildings, the

726
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 1>passing traffic, the history just still remains. More than a

727
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.039
<v Speaker 1>century ago, this quiet stretch of land was the site

728
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of a violent act between two brothers trying to build

729
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a new life in Canada. One of them would die

730
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 1>in his bed, killed by an axe, and the other

731
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>would spend the rest of his short life confined to

732
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 1>an asylum, with things going on in his mind that

733
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 1>no one understood. Over time, the details of the crime faded,

734
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>replaced by legend and competing stories about how the place

735
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>got its name. Some people still prefer the tale of

736
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the clever trappers who pretended to be dead to escape

737
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the park warden. Others pointed to the rumors of the

738
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.280
<v Speaker 1>murdered prospector, but many historians agree that the name dead

739
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Man's Flats comes from the murder in nineteen o four,

740
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>when John's body was thrown into the Bow River near

741
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the shallow stretch of land where the river slows and

742
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>spreads across the valley floor. Today, most people passing through

743
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the area honestly would never think twice about the name

744
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and the highway sign. But regardless, the name remains, and

745
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 1>it's a quiet reminder that long before it was a

746
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.559
<v Speaker 1>roadside stop in the Rocky Mountains, this place was once

747
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the scene of a crime that gave the land a

748
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>blood soaked scar that would stand the test of time.

749
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 1>And that's the story of dead Man's Flats.

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00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, ding dang, ding dang, indeed freaking dang. So have

751
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:16.079
<v Speaker 2>you been?

752
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>How often do we end with ding dang? I just realized.

753
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>That that's got to be a.

754
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Lot, Like I bet you it's ninety percent of her episodes.

755
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>How have I? How am I just realizing?

756
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, how elks do you? And this shit? Really? Okay?

757
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>So have you been? There? Have you?

758
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I've driven through?

759
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 2>You have driven through?

760
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I have driven through?

761
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, See, I want to drive through. It is like

762
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.039
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a tourist attraction of sorts. The

763
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>name it makes it. The name makes it that for sure.

764
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And when I'm when I say drive through, like from

765
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>my recollection of it, it's just a highway, like a

766
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 1>double lane highway, and you have to go on like

767
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 1>an off ramp to the community on the side of

768
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>the highway. Okay, So like driving through is more like

769
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>driving by it. I guess you have like mountains on

770
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the one side, and then there's just like the pullouts

771
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to go you can see like gas stations and buildings,

772
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and you pass by it and that's about all you

773
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 1>see because it's small it's a small community.

774
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, see it makes me want to go visit

775
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.440
<v Speaker 2>it just as a tourist, but the name alone does

776
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:17.639
<v Speaker 2>not make me want to go and live there. So

777
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I can kind of get that.

778
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, next time we go to Calgary, let's rent a vehicle.

779
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>If we fly, if we drive, we can take our

780
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 1>own vehicle. But next time we're in Calgary, let's make

781
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 1>a point of driving over to dead Men's Flat.

782
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, take some pictures. I mean, gosh, that's like quite

783
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 2>a story though. It's pretty. It's pretty eerie, it is.

784
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was kind of more so just the

785
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 2>river that spot was named that, or it was like

786
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 2>a tagline of sorts. I didn't realize it was the

787
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 2>town's damn name.

788
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>So well, it was kind of the area of the river,

789
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and the area developed its own little community. Yeah, and

790
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that community is called dead Men's.

791
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's very unique. Give it that. It's kind

792
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 2>of cool.

793
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I like how it actually has history in there.

794
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>And this episode, honestly, half of it was a history lesson. Really.

795
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, imagine going anywhere though, and people are always

796
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.039
<v Speaker 2>like where do you live? Where are you from? And

797
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:19.639
<v Speaker 2>you have to say that liked man's flat. The follow

798
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:23.159
<v Speaker 2>up questions that would come, you know, would be a

799
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<v Speaker 2>lot no kidding, but kind of cool too, kind of unique.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how you would really say what

801
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>you would say, like you wouldn't want to go into

802
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.199
<v Speaker 2>the you know this this frick or maybe they can

803
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 2>just recommend our podcast.

804
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Now touche to this pot touche. I'm actually curious how

805
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:42.840
<v Speaker 1>many of you have heard of this place and this

806
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>story before. Of course, if you're local to the area,

807
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you probably know it. But if you are outside of

808
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:54.079
<v Speaker 1>one hundred kilometers of this place, I want to know

809
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>if you've heard of this story before. I mean, if

810
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 1>you're still close to it, I want to know too,

811
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.159
<v Speaker 1>But primarily I want to know if you are they're

812
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>away one hundred kilometers from where it exists, have you

813
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>heard of it?

814
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking we're probably about what like eight hundred kilometers

815
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>or so away.

816
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I think we're a little probably about seven hundred I'm guessing, okay, And.

817
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I have not heard of this at all.

818
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I have, but only because I've driven through

819
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:19.159
<v Speaker 1>it and I've seen the sign. I haven't heard of

820
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the story. I've just remembered the sign and then I

821
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 1>came across the story the other day and I was like, oh, snap.

822
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Super cool story. Not cool that the brother killed the brother,

823
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 2>but it is a very interesting story it is.

824
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, let us know what you think and let

825
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 1>us know if you've heard of it before. I like

826
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<v Speaker 1>covering these little, small Canadian ones sometimes it's fun. Thank

827
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<v Speaker 1>you for being here. Don't forget to check with the

828
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.239
<v Speaker 1>description of this podcast, leave a review for us, because

829
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just us doing this and we do it for you,

830
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>so your support goes a long way. And reviewing the

831
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>podcast telling other people to check it out it goes

832
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>a long way too, So thank you very much. You

833
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<v Speaker 1>guys are amazing and until next time, stay wicked.

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<v Speaker 2>B
