Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel with you
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday as we hit the midweek, and of
Speaker 1: course every Wednesday we chat with Sean Woods, the Unforgettable
Speaker 1: Guard and Gary Morrow weston Bureau Chief. We're also going
Speaker 1: to talk tonight with Kent Spencer from WHAS over in
Speaker 1: Louisville formerly WTVQ and Lexington and Kent along with Jeff Picoro.
Speaker 1: They're the guys who cover UK who know what it's
Speaker 1: like to play in a college football game. So that's
Speaker 1: why I like talking football with those guys. And it's
Speaker 1: going to be a rough one this week. We know
Speaker 1: that Kentucky and Georgia, especially after the Wildcats performance last Saturday,
Speaker 1: But how many times have we seen a team that
Speaker 1: just really lays an egg in one week, rise up
Speaker 1: and play well the next You know who did that,
Speaker 1: South Carolina? You know that they played so poorly, should
Speaker 1: have lost the Old Dominion, but then regrouped and thanks
Speaker 1: to some holes in the Kentucky attack, really pounded the
Speaker 1: Wildcats on Kentucky's home field. Saw you heard it right here,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna need It's going to take a huge
Speaker 1: effort by the Wildcats just to hang in there with Georgia.
Speaker 1: This is a great college football team, as great as
Speaker 1: other Georgia teams. Well maybe not right now, but we
Speaker 1: know how talented and deep Georgia is. So but you
Speaker 1: know Kentucky's kids, they've got pride, they've got smarts, and
Speaker 1: they know what they're up against. So we'll hear it
Speaker 1: right here at a seven thirty start, five thirty pregame
Speaker 1: with Christy and Jeremy and Logan Stenberg and then of
Speaker 1: course Tom Leach, Jeff Piicorro and yours truly what the
Speaker 1: call of the Cats and the Dogs? How bad was
Speaker 1: it for the Wildcats over the weekend? Well, bleacher Report
Speaker 1: has a story about college football fan bases that should
Speaker 1: be worried after Week two, and yes, the Wildcats are there.
Speaker 1: And in fact, if you go to bleacher report dot
Speaker 1: com and click on to it, the lead photograph is
Speaker 1: Brock Vandergriff. Now they list the teams in alphabetical order,
Speaker 1: not necessarily which fan base should be worried the most.
Speaker 1: One of the teams leading it off is Auburn, which
Speaker 1: is on Kentucky's schedule. Hugh Freeze, though six and seven
Speaker 1: last year, not doing well this year. Last year, Remember
Speaker 1: they lost at home to New Mexico State. But Auburn
Speaker 1: comes up and then beats Alabama, A and M to
Speaker 1: open this season, but loses to Cal twenty one to fourteen.
Speaker 1: Cal came across the country and beat Auburn down on
Speaker 1: the plains. And now they've got Oklahoma on the road.
Speaker 1: Georgia and Missouri never gets easier, as you know in
Speaker 1: the SEC. How about Colorado as an out of winning
Speaker 1: season since twenty sixteen, all kinds of headlines when Dion
Speaker 1: Sanders got there, blew out the roster, talented quarterback, talented
Speaker 1: running back, but nothing, nothing's happened for coach Prime yet.
Speaker 1: And Nebraska put them down last week twenty eight to ten.
Speaker 1: So now you've got the big twelve teams to deal with,
Speaker 1: and you go to UCF and Texas Tech, which ain't
Speaker 1: easy four and a last year. They're going to be
Speaker 1: any better this year. Moving on alphabetically to Florida Gators.
Speaker 1: We all know about Florida. Florida's been struggling for a
Speaker 1: while now fired its coach, brought in Billy Napier. He
Speaker 1: didn't do so hot last year, losing to among other teams,
Speaker 1: Kentucky and now they're off to a bad study beat
Speaker 1: Samford forty five to seven. Miami comes to town and
Speaker 1: beats Florida by twenty four points. That is embarrassing for
Speaker 1: any Florida fan. And Miami right now is really the
Speaker 1: only successful high profile team in the state of Florida
Speaker 1: because Florida State is struggling as well. Florida State losing
Speaker 1: to Georgia Tech and then losing to Boston College State,
Speaker 1: which wanted out of the ACC, well, they're definitely out
Speaker 1: of the playoff race right now. And then again, moving
Speaker 1: along alphabetically, the Wildcats are listed by bleacher Report after
Speaker 1: losing to South Carolina thirty one to six, and they
Speaker 1: underscored the meager passing stats for Brock vandergriv three for
Speaker 1: ten for thirty yards. We all know that, and of
Speaker 1: course Keavin wims at three of seven, but with no
Speaker 1: time to throw, it doesn't matter who's back there. Running
Speaker 1: game had said labored for one hundred and thirty nine
Speaker 1: yards on forty six carries. Actually they ran for about
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty yards, but you have to subtract
Speaker 1: in college ball, the yard did you lose from sacks?
Speaker 1: Pointed out that the defense held on until the dam
Speaker 1: opened in the third quarter, and UK's first drives offensively
Speaker 1: resulted in minus twenty two yards South Carolina with all
Speaker 1: kinds of fuel positions. So everybody knows it was a
Speaker 1: rough one for the Wildcats. Oh there's one more SMU.
Speaker 1: They've got quarterback issues. They lost to BYU eighteen to fifteen.
Speaker 1: Now they got TCU coming in, they got Florida State
Speaker 1: coming in, they got Louisville. Welcome to the ACC. How
Speaker 1: much did you miss the NFL? Well? The league says
Speaker 1: they set a new record last week, the most watched
Speaker 1: Week one of the regular season in league history. The
Speaker 1: AP reporting that the NFL Week one games were watched
Speaker 1: by an average of twenty one million viewers per game,
Speaker 1: highest ever for Week one. The NFL and Nielsen announcing
Speaker 1: their combined TV and digital ratings of twelve percent from
Speaker 1: last year. One hundred and twenty three million people in
Speaker 1: total watched at least part of one game, which was
Speaker 1: the most for a Week one schedule since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: NFL is back investigating a lawsuit, another one filed against
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, the Browns quarterback accused of sexual assault that story,
Speaker 1: it seems, is never going away. Meanwhile, the Bengals, a
Speaker 1: source close to the situation, said that they offered Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase four years, one hundred and forty million with ninety
Speaker 1: million guaranteed, including a thirty million signing bonus. So everybody
Speaker 1: loved that except Chase was willing to take the four
Speaker 1: year extension, but he wanted guaranteed money and injury protections
Speaker 1: to kick in earlier in the deal than the team did,
Speaker 1: so they couldn't get together and they're still apart, and
Speaker 1: I think it absolutely affected the team and the loss
Speaker 1: to New England. The Steelers are preparing Justin Fields to
Speaker 1: be their starting quarterback again. Russell Wilson still recovering, looking
Speaker 1: right at you, Jeff Drummond. Russell Wilson with an aggravated
Speaker 1: calf injury, so Fields will start against Russell's old team
Speaker 1: one of its old teams, the Denver Broncos on Sunday
Speaker 1: with Bownicks, who did not play well in his first
Speaker 1: game as rookie. While we're talking about leg injuries, the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers say Christian McCaffrey has a calf injury
Speaker 1: himself and achilles tendinitis so they're gonna have to nurse
Speaker 1: him along literally, and evidently it's the same calf injury
Speaker 1: that had him listed on the injury report last playoff
Speaker 1: season against the Packers. He played through that injury, and
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, head coach, said he'd be playing now if
Speaker 1: it were the playoffs, but it's the regular season, so
Speaker 1: they are exercising more caution. But you cannot lose Christian McCaffery.
Speaker 1: But an achilles injury that could be nasty. Just ask
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who did play the entire game for the Jets,
Speaker 1: didn't look particularly great. Thirteen of twenty one with one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven yards and a touchdown in the
Speaker 1: loss to the Niners. Also had a pick, and he
Speaker 1: pointed out look, he said, if we win, we're going
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. If we lose, we're terrible. So
Speaker 1: he knows how fit all right, But he also said
Speaker 1: get on the bandwagon now. But if you don't get
Speaker 1: on now, you can't get on later. I'm basically paraphrasing.
Speaker 1: So while he said he was grateful at a sense
Speaker 1: of gratitude as he rode the bus over, but he's
Speaker 1: not happy with some of the criticism from New York fans,
Speaker 1: but what did you expect? Speaking of New York fans,
Speaker 1: Aaron Gershawan is one of them, but he is a
Speaker 1: Giants fan and he ain't liking this today. Our man
Speaker 1: from the Cat's Boss Daniel Jones, the quarterback for the Giants.
Speaker 1: Aaron talked about him on Monday Night on the show,
Speaker 1: how he stunk it up and probably will keep stinking
Speaker 1: it up. The Minnesota Vikings, one of the defensive players,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Greenard, a linebacker, said during their twenty eight to
Speaker 1: six win over the Giants. He said, we kind of
Speaker 1: started to feel a little bit bad for Jones and
Speaker 1: we're still just completely taking away everything he wants to do.
Speaker 1: It's good to be on the other side of it,
Speaker 1: and it's our job to not be on that side,
Speaker 1: absolutely right, And if they're taking everything away, it's not
Speaker 1: just the quarterback, it's the game plan, it's everybody. But
Speaker 1: it's not often you hear that from an opposing player.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we'll talk Kentucky football here from the Wildcats a little
Speaker 1: bit later on Kent Spencer. We'll break things down when
Speaker 1: it comes to Kentucky football here on the Big Bloon Sider,
Speaker 1: six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Boon Sider.
Speaker 1: A couple of programming notes for you. Coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be chatting with Matthew Sign. He is the
Speaker 1: COO of the National Football Foundation, and of course that's
Speaker 1: the outfit that runs the College Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: You heard from Tim Couch on the show last night,
Speaker 1: and of course he'll be honored this weekend for his
Speaker 1: impending induction into the Hall of Fame. The actual ceremony
Speaker 1: itself comes up on in December out in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: So we'll hear from Matthew Sign about the College Football
Speaker 1: Hall theme tomorrow, but also tomorrow a kind of a
Speaker 1: special program for you, at least one half of the show.
Speaker 1: We're going to look back on Kentucky's two victories over
Speaker 1: Georgia that happened back in the aughts under Rich Brooks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't have him very often wins over Georgia, but
Speaker 1: in his tenure nine years at Kentucky he beat Georgia twice.
Speaker 1: He always rude the fact that they couldn't stop the
Speaker 1: losing skid to Tennessee and he couldn't stop the streak
Speaker 1: against Florida. And that's one of the reasons that he
Speaker 1: appreciates Mark Stoops. He really likes Mark Stoops, likes the
Speaker 1: way he coaches, likes what's happening here, previous game nowithstanding,
Speaker 1: But he actually coached two Kentucky teams that beat Georgia. No,
Speaker 1: Georgia wasn't as good then as it is now, but look,
Speaker 1: it's Georgia. It's like when anytime any team beats Kentucky
Speaker 1: in basketball, doesn't matter if it was the Billy gillispe
Speaker 1: era or the John Caliperry era, whatever. If you beat Kentucky,
Speaker 1: you beat that name, you beat that tradition. And that's
Speaker 1: what happened with Georgia. They weren't bad Georgia teams, but
Speaker 1: Kentucky beat them. Of course they know six the Wildcats
Speaker 1: had lost that horrible, horrible game down at LSU. One
Speaker 1: of the longest nights I ever spent on the sideline.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kept looking at my watch because Kentucky
Speaker 1: had no hope. The way that game unfolded was a
Speaker 1: good LSU team. Most of that team was back the
Speaker 1: next year that won the national title. Even though it
Speaker 1: lost to Kentucky, but that night LSU just had its
Speaker 1: way with the Wildcats. And I'll never forget standing down
Speaker 1: there on the sideline thinking, first of all, I will
Speaker 1: have nothing to talk about with anybody in the post game,
Speaker 1: and that was if I don't remember who I interviewed
Speaker 1: after the game. But it was so bad. And Jeremy
Speaker 1: Jarman has told that story on our show a couple
Speaker 1: times that he wondered was he in the right place,
Speaker 1: playing in the in the right conference? Was he good
Speaker 1: enough to be an SEC football player? That loss made
Speaker 1: him doubt himself. And then you might recall Kentucky came
Speaker 1: back in an open date. Thankfully Rich Brooks really cracked
Speaker 1: down on the Wildcats. It paid off with a win
Speaker 1: at Mississippi State. That one was razor thin. And then
Speaker 1: Kentucky came home and beat Georgia with the kid named
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford as a freshman quarterback went on to do
Speaker 1: great things at Georgia, but Kentucky took advantage of him.
Speaker 1: Had two crucial interceptions, one at the end of each
Speaker 1: half that figured huge in that game. And that was
Speaker 1: the first goal post game at Commonwealth Stadium, and the
Speaker 1: video of that goal post coming down is it's really scary.
Speaker 1: I'm amazed nobody got hurt. But we had Rich Brooks
Speaker 1: on the line, and he is going to be our
Speaker 1: celebrity on the logust if you will. He will open
Speaker 1: our broadcast on Saturday. And I also had a chance
Speaker 1: to chat with him for quite a while about the
Speaker 1: wins over Georgia and six and again in nine. That
Speaker 1: one was down in Georgia in Athens at Sanford Stadium,
Speaker 1: and of course they shut the scoreboard off the moment
Speaker 1: the game was over, but Kentucky pulled off that upset,
Speaker 1: both wins coming under Rich Brooks. So we'll hear highlights
Speaker 1: from those games and we will hear from the coach
Speaker 1: both Tomorrow night on the show, I'm going to play
Speaker 1: an excerpt from the documentary we did on that sixth season.
Speaker 1: It was called Believe because that was the name of
Speaker 1: the video. Remember that Raymond Claurin and the other Wildcats
Speaker 1: put together. Raymond wrote it and then they put a
Speaker 1: video together, very simple video that appeared on the scoreboard
Speaker 1: on the video big screen back when the season was
Speaker 1: in doubt. It wasn't a video that they did so
Speaker 1: they could crow about their accomplishments. It was about the
Speaker 1: fact that they were not even midway through the year,
Speaker 1: just about it at the midway point, still believe they
Speaker 1: could get things done, and they did. So we'll look
Speaker 1: back on those wins tomorrow night here on the Big
Speaker 1: Blue Insider, but looking back at South Carolina as something
Speaker 1: the media did yesterday last night with Eric Wolford, the
Speaker 1: O line coach, and he talked about what he saw
Speaker 1: on video when he stopped to break things down.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing, you know, after you sit
Speaker 2: back and take a look at the film, you know
Speaker 2: everybody has.
Speaker 1: A one on one battle.
Speaker 2: Very rarely in today's game do you get two guys
Speaker 2: on one, And when you look at when we had breakdowns,
Speaker 2: I think it starts with some very simple things as
Speaker 2: far as your hand placement. You know, that's obviously what
Speaker 2: triggers Holy calls guys with their hands inside, that's important,
Speaker 2: playing with the bass, playing with the correct pad level
Speaker 2: on a consistent way. And then I think there's a
Speaker 2: point too where when you get on blocks, you need
Speaker 2: to stick on blocks, and you need to finish and
Speaker 2: play with tremendous strain. And those were the things that
Speaker 2: we felt like that we need to be better on.
Speaker 3: And I think the.
Speaker 2: Guys are obviously disappointed in the fact that the game
Speaker 2: didn't go the way that they anticipated and going or
Speaker 2: wanting it to go, and there's a sense of pride.
Speaker 1: And Wolford talked about how his players, the Old Line
Speaker 1: responded what he saw in them.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a group that's disappointed and they
Speaker 2: have a sense of urgency to get back because they're
Speaker 2: a prideful group.
Speaker 1: Wilford pointed out it was going to take that kind
Speaker 1: of response if they had any shot at beating Georgia.
Speaker 2: When I when I talked to him on Sunday, I
Speaker 2: knew that they were bothered.
Speaker 4: You know, there wasn't a time to rant and rave.
Speaker 2: There's a sense of pride. They're in there watching film,
Speaker 2: getting started on, they watched the game, got start on
Speaker 2: the next opponent, all that stuff. But these guys, these
Speaker 2: guys would they know what it means to play here
Speaker 2: at Kentucky. They know what the expectation is. These guys
Speaker 2: have been around here long enough and they're disappointed. But
Speaker 2: you know, one game doesn't define you. You know, I
Speaker 2: say that all the time, And you got to be
Speaker 2: a head to the league button learn from your mistakes
Speaker 2: and move forward and make sure that they don't repeat themselves.
Speaker 4: But one game doesn't define you.
Speaker 1: Then it was bush Ham. Then the Kentucky offensive coordinators
Speaker 1: stepped in and he talked about a number of topics,
Speaker 1: including the offensive line, and he said he believes the
Speaker 1: problems there that raise their ugly heads last Saturday, he
Speaker 1: believes they're fixable.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: A lot of it just came down to one on
Speaker 6: one battles, you know, and I think we maybe came
Speaker 6: into the game and then put a lot of emphasis
Speaker 6: on protecting those edges and those pass rushers. There were
Speaker 6: some things in the interior side that hurt us as well,
Speaker 6: and so again I thought we ran the ball well
Speaker 6: at times during the game, and I think that's a
Speaker 6: huge plus, certainly from a protection standpoint. We know what
Speaker 6: we got to do to take the next step there.
Speaker 6: And then starts again with me feel they got, you know,
Speaker 6: not as aggressive as we should have been to keep
Speaker 6: them off balanced, and then obviously I got to do
Speaker 6: a better job.
Speaker 1: Out Amton echoed Wolford's comments about the response by the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, by the offense in general, and of course
Speaker 1: in a situation like this, after a loss like that,
Speaker 1: with a powerhouse coming in proper attitude is essentral.
Speaker 6: The good thing about this program, the good think about
Speaker 6: this culture. I really don't feel like there's a lot
Speaker 6: of pointing fingers going on. Everybody came back to work
Speaker 6: on Monday looking at themselves. Certainly from the staff standpoint,
Speaker 6: our players, we don't got to do better to do
Speaker 6: all one to eleven the crazy.
Speaker 1: Walls we can play That is bush Ham to end
Speaker 1: alone with Eric Wolford courtesy of the Cats Illustrated Website.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make a note, of course today, this
Speaker 1: being nine to eleven in the anniversary of the attacks
Speaker 1: on our country, and I always think back to a
Speaker 1: number of things. Obviously that horrible day and where we
Speaker 1: were on this day. I remember being at Channel twenty seven.
Speaker 1: I saw the second plane hit the tower while I
Speaker 1: was standing in the lobby, and I realized that this
Speaker 1: country's at war, and of course it disrupted a football season,
Speaker 1: which it should have. This was the week that Kentucky
Speaker 1: was to play Indiana, and everything was postponed that weekend properly,
Speaker 1: so I do recall when they did play the following week.
Speaker 1: I think they played Florida and well, the national anthem
Speaker 1: never meant more, did it? And I remember looking I
Speaker 1: saw it on video later. I don't know I saw
Speaker 1: it as it happened, but Steve Moss got an incredible
Speaker 1: shot close up of UK defensive backs coach Wes McGriff.
Speaker 1: It was a great guy and a really good coach.
Speaker 1: He said, Auburn right now for the third time he's
Speaker 1: coaching at Auburn. But he was saluting. And I did
Speaker 1: not know that Wes McGriff was a veteran. He was.
Speaker 1: We asked him about it later he said, you're damn right,
Speaker 1: I am. He was commissioned as a second lieutenant in
Speaker 1: the Army in nineteen ninety and was a member of
Speaker 1: the reserves until twenty oh one. But as veterans often do,
Speaker 1: even in playing clothes, they salute during the national anthem.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever did it prior to that,
Speaker 1: or if he does it now, but he did it
Speaker 1: on that day in twenty oh one, and we did
Speaker 1: a follow up story on that. But West McGriff, it
Speaker 1: just made me look back what a career he's had
Speaker 1: as a defensive backs coach and a decoordinatory. He's coach,
Speaker 1: as they often do in a lot of places, but
Speaker 1: a three job stint had him at Kentucky State, where
Speaker 1: he was the national Assistant Coach of the Year for
Speaker 1: Division two. He also coached the secondary at EKU and
Speaker 1: then coached at Kentucky from one to two before he
Speaker 1: moved on to Baylor with Guy Morris. But how often
Speaker 1: do you hear about a college foot fotball coach. He's
Speaker 1: changed his jobs three times twice technically, but he comes
Speaker 1: to Kentucky State and EKU and UK. He's on the move,
Speaker 1: never had to sell his house, or at least never
Speaker 1: had to move his stuff, stayed in the same place.
Speaker 1: But it's just odd what you think back on as
Speaker 1: nine to eleven comes around. But I know you're keeping
Speaker 1: everybody in your thoughts on this anniversary. Ken Spencer next
Speaker 1: in six thirty WLA welcome back to the Big Blue
Speaker 1: Insider and joining us now from the other side of
Speaker 1: the interstate a guy who's covered UK football for many,
Speaker 1: many years. Ken Spencer's sports director, whas prior to that,
Speaker 1: he was the sports director of WTVQ here in Lexington,
Speaker 1: and I need we're going to obviously chop up this game.
Speaker 1: But I got to go back kent to something you
Speaker 1: said to me prior to the season about the offensive line.
Speaker 1: There's so much talk about the Big Blue Wall and
Speaker 1: John Schlarman's legacy, and you weren't being mean when you
Speaker 1: said this, but you you said to me, essentially, they
Speaker 1: need to afford their own identity and instead of you know,
Speaker 1: lingering on on the past like that. And I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if some of us has come home to roost, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because these guys are are really struggling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so they're really struggling. And you know, I
Speaker 5: thought Mark Stuke's on on Monday, you know, certainly admitted
Speaker 5: to it, right, like different offensive coordinators, different offensive line coaches.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you go from you know, John Schlarman,
Speaker 5: then you go to Wolford, then you go to Jenser.
Speaker 5: Now you're back to Wolford. I mean, there's so many changes.
Speaker 5: There's nothing consistent, you know, both offensively and with the
Speaker 5: offensive line. You know, it's it's it's tough, and you know,
Speaker 5: we all remember the culture of the Big Blue Wall,
Speaker 5: and you know, at some point, you know, when when
Speaker 5: I'm Schlarman passed away. You know, it's it's a it's
Speaker 5: a natural thing that you know that culture is going
Speaker 5: to slowly erode. It just is, you know, as guys graduate,
Speaker 5: as guys move on, as new people come in, and
Speaker 5: you kind of got to find your You got to
Speaker 5: find your own thing. And they clearly haven't found it.
Speaker 5: But for me, I think it's it's continuity, right, Like
Speaker 5: you have to have a coach, you have to have
Speaker 5: a system that can be around for multiple years because
Speaker 5: so much change for these for these kids, it just
Speaker 5: takes a toll. And it's and I think you're you're
Speaker 5: clearly seeing that right.
Speaker 1: Now, you are, and and everything evolves and I've kind
Speaker 1: of beaten this drum all year from the old line. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not placing all the blame at their feed, but uh,
Speaker 1: if you can't move the football, if you can't move
Speaker 1: the change, you put your defense in a hell of
Speaker 1: a spot. And you know you're you're hoping for points
Speaker 1: to come somehow. So that's where it all starts. And
Speaker 1: you've got to get this thing figured out in a hurry,
Speaker 1: don't they.
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, look, if we're being honest, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know when you looked at the schedule, you knew
Speaker 5: how tough the schedule was anyway, right, And so South
Speaker 5: Carolina was considered a fifty to fifty game for this
Speaker 5: to be for this to be a successful Kentucky football season,
Speaker 5: like they have to win the fifty to fifty games,
Speaker 5: like that was a must win. And they and they
Speaker 5: didn't get it. And not only did they not get it,
Speaker 5: but they got blown out thirty one to six at
Speaker 5: home in front of a packed house that was ready
Speaker 5: to go from the opening kickoff. And to be quite
Speaker 5: honest with you, Dick, I don't think South Carolina's good
Speaker 5: and they beat him thirty one to six. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: I think South Carolina's front seven is really good on defense,
Speaker 5: but I don't think like overall, like the rest of it, Like,
Speaker 5: I don't think they're very good. And so you know,
Speaker 5: we'll see, you know, south, what South Carolina does for
Speaker 5: the rest of the season. Maybe I'm completely wrong on
Speaker 5: that line. I think the football team's in big, big trouble.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've got, like I said, a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do. And Rock Vandergriff started his first SEC
Speaker 1: game and was scrambling almost from the start. You know,
Speaker 1: and we we talked again preseason about how the schedule,
Speaker 1: the calendar. I thought my work against the Wildcats, I
Speaker 1: certainly didn't expect it in the South Carolina game. But
Speaker 1: when a new quarterback doesn't have anything beyond a couple
Speaker 1: of quarters against an inferior team, generally they have two
Speaker 1: or three games against inferior teams to get their legs
Speaker 1: under them. And this was a heck of a way
Speaker 1: for Vandergriff to begin his career in the SEC as
Speaker 1: a starter, wasn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, and you know, and I think even the you know,
Speaker 5: like the Southern Myth game, you know, after they went
Speaker 5: up thirty one to nothing, even though the game got called,
Speaker 5: you know, I kind of questioned whether he was going
Speaker 5: to come back in the game any Yeah, I know,
Speaker 5: Mark Stoops, I think it was pretty clear that he
Speaker 5: wanted to get a bunch of dudes reps. And it
Speaker 5: sounded like that was the moment when guys were really
Speaker 5: going to start coming in. So, you know, he probably
Speaker 5: got all the work that he was going to in
Speaker 5: that game. But you know, what you really need is
Speaker 5: when you have a quarterback, and who's a young quarterback.
Speaker 5: Even though Vander griff has been around for a while
Speaker 5: in college football, he hasn't been a starter, and so
Speaker 5: when it comes to those kind of live fire reps
Speaker 5: when the game is on the line and winning matters,
Speaker 5: he needed for his offensive line to help him out.
Speaker 5: He needed guys around him to help him out a
Speaker 5: little bit for him just to kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: almost kind of get his legs underneath um. But you know,
Speaker 5: he was running from his life from Jump Street in
Speaker 5: that game. And the next thing, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: as the game kind of goes on, you can tell
Speaker 5: the moment that he hit that last you know, that
Speaker 5: last foot on his up like he wasn't looking downfield,
Speaker 5: he was looking for the rush. He felt like, man,
Speaker 5: I'm being headhunted here. And so like it was, it
Speaker 5: was over. Like they just they never had after the
Speaker 5: first couple of series. There was just no confidence to
Speaker 5: throw the ball because you knew that either you weren't
Speaker 5: going to have time or he was so uneasy back
Speaker 5: there it wasn't gonna matter anyway.
Speaker 1: And the heck of it is, he didn't even have
Speaker 1: time to look for the short receiver, the short routes
Speaker 1: just to dump it off. I mean, you're right, about
Speaker 1: those edge rushers for South Carolina are terrific and nobody
Speaker 1: else on that team, in my opinion, measures up. But
Speaker 1: that gives him a shot, and it took away any
Speaker 1: chance Vandergriff had of just getting it out of there.
Speaker 5: And and and to be honest with you, Dick, it
Speaker 5: just wasn't the edge like they were getting whipped everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean there was one sack where I mean, look,
Speaker 5: when you're when you're left guard is staring at you
Speaker 5: when his guy is on top of you like that.
Speaker 5: That's not great.
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing, you know, like.
Speaker 5: That, I mean that has been that must being properly
Speaker 5: whipped on that play.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember a story I heard where many years
Speaker 1: ago when Bill Ransdell was playing one of the old linemen.
Speaker 1: It's the exact same thing happened. This guy got through
Speaker 1: and crushed him and he said, sorry, Bill, my bad,
Speaker 1: And Bill said, yeah, it was your bad. What are
Speaker 1: you going to do about it? You know? So now
Speaker 1: they got to square up and do something about it.
Speaker 1: With Georgia coming in again, the calendar just could not
Speaker 1: be worse for this team right now.
Speaker 5: No, And you know, like look, you know, losing losing
Speaker 5: chip train them in training camp. Now, Dennie Thrubo corn
Speaker 5: Bays done the heck of a job, but you know
Speaker 5: you really want it. And even like in last week,
Speaker 5: I mean, Jason Patterson came in and provided a nice,
Speaker 5: a nice little spark at times. So I mean, like
Speaker 5: I'm not saying, you know, running back is a detriment,
Speaker 5: but look, you want to have your full allotment of
Speaker 5: firepower when you go up against these SEC teams, especially
Speaker 5: especially this year. But nothing, nothing matters. There's two things
Speaker 5: that there's two things that really kind of go into
Speaker 5: all of this because nothing matters on offense.
Speaker 1: And if you can't block anybody.
Speaker 5: I mean, Berry and Brown is so fast, doesn't matter,
Speaker 5: can't block anybody like bron Vandergriff could be the next coming.
Speaker 5: We don't know. You know why I can't block anybody.
Speaker 5: If you can't block anybody, you can't do anything.
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 5: This was, oh I'm blinking, I'm blanking on the offensive
Speaker 5: coordinator's name at the time. He's West Virginia's deal had
Speaker 5: his first thing is Neil Neil Brown. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 5: like you know he's going on and had, you know,
Speaker 5: offenses that do think but early on at Kentucky, like
Speaker 5: obviously they didn't have a whole lot of talent to
Speaker 5: work with, especially upfront on the offensive line. And I mean,
Speaker 5: like he would just admit after a games like, look,
Speaker 5: there's only so much you can do, Like it doesn't
Speaker 5: really matter if you can't block anybody. Yeah, and so
Speaker 5: like you know, that's exactly what it was, like they
Speaker 5: can't they couldn't block anybody. And and by the way,
Speaker 5: like you know, there was that there was that one
Speaker 5: drive where they ran the ball that was straight plays
Speaker 5: early on in that drive, they had a lot of
Speaker 5: success that drive and went on in South Carolina said oh,
Speaker 5: you're not going to run it. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: those eight nine yard runs became three two, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, you know, they they kind of
Speaker 5: dug in a little bit, you know, but you have
Speaker 5: to be you know, you have to be able to balance.
Speaker 5: They've got to be able to block somebody on the
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball. And and let's be honest,
Speaker 5: like the defense played well to a certain point. A
Speaker 5: lot of bloom coverages like and and sellers for South Carolina,
Speaker 5: in my opinion, isn't a very good quarterback yet and
Speaker 5: he was finding dudes wide open down down the field.
Speaker 5: And and to be honest with you, the interception that
Speaker 5: he threw to Ty Bryant, he had a guy wide
Speaker 5: open in the middle of the field. He just sailed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now he'll be he'll be a nice player. But uh,
Speaker 1: he did not do nearly as many damaging things to
Speaker 1: Kentucky as I thought he might. Bunk coverage just because
Speaker 1: there are there are veterans back there. That's what amazed me.
Speaker 1: And generally Brad White's units are are are on point,
Speaker 1: but not once but twice were guys left alone, which
Speaker 1: reminded you of the old Miss Game a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, just done unbelievable mistakes like that. They got
Speaker 1: to get cleaned up in a hurry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and you hit the you hit the
Speaker 5: nail right on the head. Veteran guys, Guys that should
Speaker 5: not be making those mistakes, right, So you know that's
Speaker 5: when you're like, look, you know, are these guys prepared?
Speaker 5: Are they prepared to play? You know, that's that's a
Speaker 5: huge thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ken Spencer, my guest sports director, whas we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk Kentucky football. We're gonna slip in some
Speaker 1: basketball chatter as well here on the Big Blue Insider
Speaker 1: six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue in Sider.
Speaker 1: I guess Ken Spencer whas sports director and himself a
Speaker 1: former college football player, and that in mind, kent let
Speaker 1: me ask you, we as media people and fans as well,
Speaker 1: we have a tendessee to dwell on things like this,
Speaker 1: churn them in our minds, and players have no chot. Well,
Speaker 1: there is a choice, but generally they have got to
Speaker 1: put it behind him, like like DBAs with short memories
Speaker 1: and move on. And generally they're more resilient mentally than
Speaker 1: we are. What is that like for a player to
Speaker 1: try to put something like this behind them?
Speaker 5: Well, you know this week, this week in practice, you know,
Speaker 5: I think it's back to be business as usual. You know,
Speaker 5: I think that they are quick to put that behind them.
Speaker 5: They know what lizahead, They know the challenge ahead. You know,
Speaker 5: one of the things that you're not going to hear
Speaker 5: this week. Remember the last the last few years when
Speaker 5: Kentucky was getting ready to play Georgia's just this the year,
Speaker 5: this is this can be the year, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean? Like you're not hearing any of that this week,
Speaker 5: and so, you know, but I do think that it's
Speaker 5: easy to go back to work. But here's the key, Dick.
Speaker 5: And you know, I've been on teams that have that
Speaker 5: have struggled, and what happens is is the this is
Speaker 5: the biggest key to Saturday. What happens when the first
Speaker 5: thing goes wrong? Yeah, it's a football game. Everything goes wrong.
Speaker 5: Do you have the that's one play, I need to
Speaker 5: win the next play mentality, because that's what it takes.
Speaker 5: Or do you have the here we go again mentality?
Speaker 5: Because once you get to here we go again mentality,
Speaker 5: then man, that's that boulder starts really going downhill. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And so I think that's the that's the biggest key.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure that you have taught you have covered
Speaker 5: your fair share of Kentucky teams in your time that
Speaker 5: you know, and you've talked to guys, especially even after
Speaker 5: the fact, where they constantly had that mentality.
Speaker 1: Yep. And you know what, for all his shortcomings, how mommy,
Speaker 1: uh did did good things here? I would hear him
Speaker 1: on the sidelines saying loudly, all right, all right, play
Speaker 1: the next play, play the next play over and over
Speaker 1: and you know, trying to instill that that was part
Speaker 1: of his culture. And for the most part I thought
Speaker 1: it work. The reason the program failed was off the
Speaker 1: field stuff. But you heard players repeat that, and you
Speaker 1: know as well as I when players say it to
Speaker 1: each other. Now it's taken hold, hasn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah? And you know it's kind of like one
Speaker 5: of those things where you know, you have to stay
Speaker 5: super simple and simple things can become big things. And
Speaker 5: so like the mentality is always do my job on display,
Speaker 5: win this play, because if you if you if you
Speaker 5: put wins on top of winds on play, then you're
Speaker 5: putting the series together, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 5: then next thing, you know, you're putting games together. But
Speaker 5: you know, when when you start saying, you know, here
Speaker 5: we go again, that's a defeated mind that's a defeatist mindset,
Speaker 5: and that just leads to bad thing.
Speaker 1: Well, and the good news is that we haven't seen
Speaker 1: as much of that in the Mark Stoops era. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe the last couple of years. There have been disappointments
Speaker 1: because they only won seven, but no, there were there
Speaker 1: were many You've covered teams too at Kentucky that were hopeless. Uh,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you got to avoid that. A few minutes
Speaker 1: left at Ken Spencer w HS. Let me shift you
Speaker 1: over to basketball quickly, because, uh, the good news for
Speaker 1: UK fans last week Jasper Johnson, Uh it with a
Speaker 1: florry of endorsements picks Kentucky over Indiana, not Indiana, Alabama
Speaker 1: and North Carolina and kind of a rhetorical question, but
Speaker 1: pretty obvious. How huge was that from because for quite
Speaker 1: a while it looked like it was not going to happen.
Speaker 5: If you are going to if you're going to take
Speaker 5: a job and make a big move like Mark Pope made,
Speaker 5: you know, coming back to his own the moderate at Kentucky.
Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is is, you know, we
Speaker 5: in this state do not have top twenty five recruits
Speaker 5: often basketball recruit.
Speaker 1: Not anymore, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like it's just it's just that those things don't exist really.
Speaker 5: So to have two in the same class, and for
Speaker 5: Mark Pope to be able to land both in the
Speaker 5: same class, you know, during your first real high school
Speaker 5: recruiting cycle. I think that I think it's massive, and
Speaker 5: you know it wasn't you know, And I remember last week,
Speaker 5: you know, Dennis even talked about like, look, you know
Speaker 5: this is gonna have this had to be his walk.
Speaker 5: You know, I had my time, Kentucky was my place.
Speaker 5: But he had to figure this out for himself obviously.
Speaker 5: You know in il all that stuff plays a part
Speaker 5: in all of this now nowadays. And so for them
Speaker 5: to be able to kind of lock this deal down
Speaker 5: and keep Jasper Johnson and fight and fend off the
Speaker 5: Alabama's in the North Carolinas of the world, that's a
Speaker 5: huge win. This is the twelfth rate player in the class.
Speaker 5: That's a massive win. Especially early on.
Speaker 1: I believe Caliperi would have recruited him, but that would
Speaker 1: have been quite the unicorn for him because he only
Speaker 1: signed what a half a dozen kids out of the
Speaker 1: state of Kentucky over fifteen years, so that could have
Speaker 1: worked out in a much much different way. But yeah, again,
Speaker 1: this day and age, who can afford this kid? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean everything we had heard was Alabama was throwing
Speaker 1: all of its nil resources at him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, now, and you know that's n I L is
Speaker 5: such a big part. You know, I wonder I will
Speaker 5: say this though, when they came out like where he
Speaker 5: was going to announce the decision. Yes. I was like, well,
Speaker 5: that's it's Kentucky. Of course, Like you don't come back
Speaker 5: to Woodford County from from Atlanta and overtime elite to
Speaker 5: announce that you're that you're going to Alabama or North Carolina.
Speaker 1: You might have been there when Ryan Timmins announced, and
Speaker 1: that was a big mystery. And then he announces in
Speaker 1: the gym and they led everybody out of school to
Speaker 1: come to the gym and hear what he had to say.
Speaker 1: And I turned to somebody half an hour before, I said,
Speaker 1: he's coming to Kentucky. How do you know? I said,
Speaker 1: look around. He's not going to say North Carolina or
Speaker 1: whatever in front of all his friends.
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean even like like well,
Speaker 5: I mean like if you think about it, you know
Speaker 5: when when he first when one Dale Robinson first announced,
Speaker 5: yes he was in that jail, that's right, any announce
Speaker 5: any and ounce Kentucky and then like seven seconds later
Speaker 5: he flipped to Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he didn't do it in front of a
Speaker 1: room full of his classmen.
Speaker 5: In a room full of people, he went, he went
Speaker 5: for the for the home team, and then ultimately, when
Speaker 5: the smoke dialed down, he was like, Okay, this is
Speaker 5: actually where I really want to go, right, But.
Speaker 1: It worked out for the best for Kentucky fans. It
Speaker 1: always works out for the best when Ken Spencer joined us.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, sir. Will you be up here?
Speaker 1: Where will you be this weekend?
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I'll be I'll be in uh in Lexington
Speaker 5: this weekend. We actually uh have the game to you know,
Speaker 5: Saturday night at seventh Throth, so uh we'll see. We'll
Speaker 5: see how it all plays out ABC in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're loving that. Thank you so much, sir.
Speaker 1: We'll see you then, Hi, buddy, I remember doing up
Speaker 1: next with Sean Woods and Forgettable Guard and West End
Speaker 1: Bureau Chief Gary Moore Here on the Big Blon Sider
Speaker 1: six thirty w l a P. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Big Bling Cider and every Wednesday we meet with our
Speaker 1: favorite unforgettable Guard, Sean Woods. He is actually on the road,
Speaker 1: but we are chatting with him. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: first a little football because coach, you and I have
Speaker 1: talked before about the NFL teams you root for and
Speaker 1: the fact that you were a big Kentucky fan still
Speaker 1: are football fan when you were playing here. But we
Speaker 1: know things did not go well for Mark Stoops and
Speaker 1: his team this past Saturday. They're down, They've got a
Speaker 1: big game coming up, and I know not every game
Speaker 1: went perfectly for you. As a coach, you can relate,
Speaker 1: I'm sure to Mark handling a team that is so disappointed,
Speaker 1: and yet you can't dwell on a loss like that.
Speaker 1: Tell me about helping a team bounce back as a coach,
Speaker 1: what can you do? What can Mark Stoops do to
Speaker 1: help get his team ready for the next challenge.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you got a brand new quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think your line is okay. But it's the first game.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody had a first game, and everybody didn't
Speaker 3: win their first game. That doesn't mean that the season's
Speaker 3: over with, you know, And it's unfortunate that, you know,
Speaker 3: you got to play probably the number one or two
Speaker 3: team in America the next game, so you don't have
Speaker 3: time to dwell on it. All you could do is
Speaker 3: go over to things that you didn't do right. And
Speaker 3: it's so early that you can't be pointing the fingers.
Speaker 3: Just you know, it was the first game. You know,
Speaker 3: things didn't go as well as you thought. You know,
Speaker 3: certain guys didn't do certain things that she has seen
Speaker 3: in practice. So you just repid, you know, continue to
Speaker 3: repid for the rest of the week, on top of
Speaker 3: preparing for the next opponent, which is Georgia.
Speaker 1: I always like to say that we, the media and fans,
Speaker 1: maybe even coaches, dwell maybe too much on the past game,
Speaker 1: whereas you need the players to move on physically, mentally,
Speaker 1: and emotionally. But kids are more resilient that way maybe
Speaker 1: than we are. Am I right about that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: You know, when you're a Kentucky or anywhere, you know,
Speaker 3: you always as a player, you're always comparing yourself to
Speaker 3: the person that you're going up against. And I'm sure
Speaker 3: because of the score and the loss, those players seem
Speaker 3: to feel like that they didn't give their best, So
Speaker 3: they didn't do their best, and hopefully they're hungry enough
Speaker 3: to where mentally they're saying they're gonna do much better
Speaker 3: next time, you know what I mean. You know, South
Speaker 3: Carolina is not a slouch as you can see. They
Speaker 3: were a good football team and it was a lot
Speaker 3: to learn from that game, of course, So you go
Speaker 3: back to the drag board for me, you know, you
Speaker 3: go over some things that you didn't get to execute
Speaker 3: as well as you wanted to. I'm sure you said
Speaker 3: some weaknesses that they probably exposed, And of course, when
Speaker 3: you're scouting the other team, you know, Georgia probably seen
Speaker 3: some things that so what saw some weaknesses that South
Speaker 3: Carolina exposed? So you got to cover those things so
Speaker 3: Georgia didn't do the same thing to you. They continue
Speaker 3: to get better.
Speaker 1: You know. You bring up a great point about measuring
Speaker 1: yourself and I've thought about that a lot through the years.
Speaker 1: No matter how good a Kentucky basketball team is, maybe
Speaker 1: it's a team that's struggling. Back when you were playing,
Speaker 1: Ultimately you played on some really, really great teams. But
Speaker 1: early on, you know, for a couple of reasons, you
Speaker 1: guys lost your share of games. But none of that mattered,
Speaker 1: did it When somebody lined up against you. You had
Speaker 1: that Kentucky on your chest, and they wanted to measure
Speaker 1: themselves against not just Sean Woods, not just the Kentucky team,
Speaker 1: but the entire program, the tradition, the jersey, the history,
Speaker 1: all of that. And now it's kind of in reverse
Speaker 1: this week, isn't it. With Georgia coming in.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you still got to strap them up,
Speaker 3: you know, you still got to, you know, play the game.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm you know, coach Steubs and his
Speaker 3: staff are good enough to see where they can expose
Speaker 3: Georgia because even though no matter how good of a
Speaker 3: team is they, Steve still has some weaknesses that you're
Speaker 3: trying to expose. You just try to expose those more
Speaker 3: so than they expose some of the things that you
Speaker 3: don't do well. But it's still a confidence situation. At
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you get to go up
Speaker 3: against one of the top five teams in America. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so from from a competitive standpoint, that's great for me
Speaker 3: and for any other big time athlete. So you know,
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to watching them play. I'm looking forward
Speaker 3: to the character of this team after a loss. You know,
Speaker 3: do you dwell on it? Do you do you sunk
Speaker 3: all week? Or do you try to forget about it?
Speaker 3: You go over the things the next day of practice
Speaker 3: and and failm And let's move on because doctor Alt
Speaker 3: is gone, Georgia's up next. What do we have to
Speaker 3: do to beat Georgia? That's the main emphasis that should
Speaker 3: be in their minds right now.
Speaker 1: Well, now you sound like the coach that you are
Speaker 1: as a player. You were as competitive as a god.
Speaker 1: What was it like for you though? You know? Did
Speaker 1: it actually? After a while? I guess you just kind
Speaker 1: of took it and stride you. You assumed that that
Speaker 1: people were coming at you because you were Kentucky, you
Speaker 1: were a UK basketball. They're gonna prove I'm every bit
Speaker 1: as good as you. I guess you welcome that challenge.
Speaker 1: But man, that was every game, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: But that's what made it fun. You know, you want to,
Speaker 3: you know, pose your will on people because you know,
Speaker 3: I think you're the best. You know, you you play
Speaker 3: for the best, so you know that everybody's gonna give
Speaker 3: you their best, and you know, if you're a competitor,
Speaker 3: you know you want to outdo the person that you're
Speaker 3: going against. So Mono and Mono, if every person who
Speaker 3: wins their minu and minor battle nine times out of ten,
Speaker 3: you're gonna win the game. So as long as you
Speaker 3: got kids like that on your team that think that way,
Speaker 3: work as hard as that like that, you know you
Speaker 3: always have a chance.
Speaker 1: And you know, you just described the unforgettables plus Reggie Hanson,
Speaker 1: didn't you. I mean that's all you guys were like that.
Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, they underestimate how good
Speaker 3: Reggie Hanson was, how good Jo how good Richie Farmer was,
Speaker 3: how good dafn Feldhouse was.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: But the country and everybody who played against us, after
Speaker 3: they played against us, they realized how good we were too.
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, you know, we
Speaker 3: had pride too, but we wanted to make sure you
Speaker 3: knew that. You know, you're not just playing against Kentucky.
Speaker 3: There's a reason why we're here.
Speaker 1: What was it that made Reggie as good as he was?
Speaker 1: Because I guess obviously his size made him underappreciated and
Speaker 1: at time overlooked. But here's a guy who he might
Speaker 1: have been a big guard in some systems, but instead
Speaker 1: he had to play the post for you guys.
Speaker 3: Tell you what Reggie's Reggie Hanson is probably the most
Speaker 3: underrated UK basketball players in history. He could do it all.
Speaker 3: But what made him so great was he was the
Speaker 3: ultimate competitor. You couldn't break his spirit. Now, he was
Speaker 3: a great competitor. He was a great leader. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's a captain, but he led by example too. He
Speaker 3: not just talked to talk, he walked the walk. You know,
Speaker 3: he was here on time of getting his work in.
Speaker 3: You weren't got out working, weren't gone out toughly, and
Speaker 3: he didn't care who you were, whether you were Shaquille
Speaker 3: O'Neill or Robert Rorriy. Regie was coming at you and
Speaker 3: it was gonna be a long night going against him.
Speaker 1: And you know, he was a guy who could have left,
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys did, and no knock on them.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta do what's right for you. But
Speaker 1: he stuck around and I know people appreciated him for that.
Speaker 1: I know you did.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Jonathan Davis, I hooked up for him.
Speaker 3: Since I've been back. He brought up a great point.
Speaker 3: Reggie Hanson should be in the Hall of Fame sometime soon.
Speaker 3: I mean what he did. He was probably the integral
Speaker 3: part of the Unforgettables. He's probably the you know, he
Speaker 3: got us started. He was the guy, and then we
Speaker 3: took over after he left that one year he left.
Speaker 3: But man Red is such a great and important part
Speaker 3: to the success for coach Ratino's first two three years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to remember the timeline, but that that
Speaker 1: upset of LSU you played.
Speaker 3: In that game, didn't you, Yes, when we beat him
Speaker 3: at our player, Yes, Yes, and Rams had to bang
Speaker 3: up against Shaq and Wayne seems. I don't think Stanley
Speaker 3: Robins is still there, but I mean Redge every night
Speaker 3: was out man and underside, but he was still the
Speaker 3: man at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I don't think it happened in that game, but I
Speaker 1: think it did happen down at LSU when he dunked
Speaker 1: on Shaquille O'Neil, which is just man. You you take
Speaker 1: that home and keep it forever. I think Chris Jackson
Speaker 1: was on that team, wasn't he.
Speaker 3: Yes, Chris Jackson, h h Shaquille O'Neil. Wayne seems very
Speaker 3: no single thing. Chris Jackson, I'll tell you what it
Speaker 3: is the best guy I ever played with. You know,
Speaker 3: from high school to college. High schools we went at
Speaker 3: each other in Nike camp and I thought I got
Speaker 3: the best of him, But from there to he got
Speaker 3: the LSU it was like no other. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: Dale Brown gave him the keys. Uh, maybe gave him
Speaker 3: the keys too much, because you know, he didn't utilize
Speaker 3: Shaquille O'Neill as much as he should have. Yeah, or
Speaker 3: Kelly Roberts. He knows more Chris Jackson, but at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, he's probably the toughest out that
Speaker 3: I ever went against in my life.
Speaker 1: I always thought it was interesting when Dada would ask
Speaker 1: Shaquille and New who was the best big man you
Speaker 1: ever went against. He would say Stanley Roberts in practice
Speaker 1: at LSU. But that was a guy who just let us,
Speaker 1: let us tell and go to way Shack certainly didn't,
Speaker 1: but those were fun times back then. We're talking to
Speaker 1: Sean Woods, the unforgettable Guard. We'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: contemporary basketball. We've been going down memory lane here for
Speaker 1: a few minutes, but we'll come back and talk about
Speaker 1: today's game in just a minute on the Big Blue
Speaker 1: Sider here on six thirty WLA. We'll come back to
Speaker 1: the Big Blue Sider. We're talking as video every Wednesday
Speaker 1: with the unforgettable guard, Sean Woods. His jersey hangs in
Speaker 1: the rafters are up. Since you and I spoke, Coach
Speaker 1: Jasper Johnson made his commitment. We talked about it ahead
Speaker 1: of time. You talked about the fact that it sure
Speaker 1: looked good for Mark Pope, but that Kentucky has to
Speaker 1: get a kid like that but we've also talked about
Speaker 1: kids looking for the bag, as you like to say.
Speaker 1: And that was a heavily sponsored announcement by Jasper Johnson.
Speaker 1: I mean you got to tip your cap to him.
Speaker 1: He made the most of it. But did you get
Speaker 1: a chance to see that the highlights or see it
Speaker 1: online when he announced he was coming to Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Uh, huh, it's uh, you know, I'll tell you it's
Speaker 3: a new day, you know. Uh, it's you know, I
Speaker 3: wanted to get one point three.
Speaker 1: Million probably something like that.
Speaker 3: But my thing is is this. You know now that
Speaker 3: you're you know, you're going to Kentucky, stay in the
Speaker 3: state and play play high school basketball one last year
Speaker 3: in Kentucky. You know, if you can get you know,
Speaker 3: the people. From what I understand that I may be
Speaker 3: talking out of turn, and I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 3: make anyone mad. But Jeron Browns is a really good
Speaker 3: friend of mine. He's like a little brother to me.
Speaker 3: Your dad is the ad at Woodford County. Local people
Speaker 3: gave you that are giving you this money. You're going
Speaker 3: to a prep school to get another bag, which is
Speaker 3: about three four hundred for what I've heard those say.
Speaker 3: People can give you that money and you stay at
Speaker 3: Wildford County and help Wildford County winn a state championship.
Speaker 3: Last time you played at wood For County, you went
Speaker 3: to the sweet sixteen, and if I'm not mistaken, you
Speaker 3: lost in the semi finals. You got a great addition
Speaker 3: in the Boom Kid, the mellow blue Boom Kid that's
Speaker 3: transferred from Douglas. Okay, you add him, you get the
Speaker 3: Johnson Kid back. Now wood for County is a major
Speaker 3: contender to win the state championship. And not only do
Speaker 3: you go to Kentucky, but you leave a legacy as
Speaker 3: a real Kentucky kid playing high school basketball in the
Speaker 3: state of Kentucky. Going to Kentucky, and now your legacy
Speaker 3: is even more of a a folklore. You know, where's
Speaker 3: the last time a player come out of for Sales,
Speaker 3: Kentucky to play for Kentucky?
Speaker 1: Right at Laner? Probably?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And he's a walk on right For what I'm
Speaker 3: saying is, you know, the same people who put up
Speaker 3: the money for him to play at Kentucky, what's another
Speaker 3: three four hundred to stay at Woodford County and help
Speaker 3: them win a state championship.
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking exactly that last year when
Speaker 1: there were rumors that he was going to move on.
Speaker 1: But he goes to the Sweet sixteen. They have a
Speaker 1: good showing and I'm thinking maybe getting there will get
Speaker 1: into his blood a little bit, maybe he'll be hungry
Speaker 1: to come back and win a state title. But yeah,
Speaker 1: now he's signed with Overtime Elite and I realize, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's big money at stake, but I'm sure he can
Speaker 1: help his game there. But what do you win, Sean,
Speaker 1: if you go to Overtime Elite. I mean, is there
Speaker 1: a championship, Is there a trophy? Is there a tournament
Speaker 1: that to me, I'm like you, and again I'm old fashioned,
Speaker 1: but I'd love to go back to where I grew up,
Speaker 1: where my dad's working. He's the ad, like you say,
Speaker 1: and help them win a state championship. But am I
Speaker 1: being naive?
Speaker 3: No, you're not. But you know, playing the Overtime elegue. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is when I'm I'm thinking. What they're thinking is
Speaker 3: you're playing against so called the top talent in the country,
Speaker 3: but every top twenty five kid is not at prep school. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know Overtime Eleague. We know how significant they are
Speaker 3: and players they are as far as these one and
Speaker 3: does and things like that. But at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, what else is there? You know, this competition
Speaker 3: in the study of Kentucky too. I mean, Reece Shepherd
Speaker 3: was not even considered and he goes to Lawn County
Speaker 3: or North Luol wherever you went. That didn't stop him, right,
Speaker 3: you know, just over a time elite does not signify
Speaker 3: who you are. Especially if you're trying to be a pro.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be a pro because of what you do
Speaker 3: at Kentucky, not what you're doing it over time e leite.
Speaker 3: You know, you can be a great player at overtime
Speaker 3: elite and have a bad year in Kentucky. Now your
Speaker 3: stocks going down, just like four or five guys that
Speaker 3: was at Kentucky last year. So my thing is is legacy.
Speaker 3: My thing is your Kentucky kid. My thing is, you know,
Speaker 3: boost everything up from there because you're playing with strangers
Speaker 3: next time. Next year, they're gonna overtime e lease, it's
Speaker 3: not gonna even be thinking about you. They're gonna be
Speaker 3: thinking about the next kid coming through there. But at
Speaker 3: Roodford County, you're a legend in the state of Kentucky.
Speaker 3: You're a legend, you know. And my thing is, where
Speaker 3: are you more significant that it is more important than
Speaker 3: you know, the quick fix. You know, you proved to
Speaker 3: everybody that you can play amongst the best Cup petition
Speaker 3: in America. So now come home here last year and
Speaker 3: make it all right. You know, went under your daddy,
Speaker 3: went under Jerome Brown and not only that win for
Speaker 3: the state of Kentucky in Woodford County, and you know,
Speaker 3: you do a press conference at Wilford County. Why don't
Speaker 3: you do the press conference that overtime e league? We
Speaker 3: know why, you know, But but that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yeah, you know, I'm just
Speaker 3: being biased because I know Jeroon Brown real well, and
Speaker 3: I know what people in the state of Kentucky field
Speaker 3: when one of their own, you know, puts on that
Speaker 3: big blue uniform. He's just a guy that played at
Speaker 3: Wilford County two years and went on and forgot about it.
Speaker 3: Nobody has seen him play, and they're not gonna see
Speaker 3: him play until he plays at Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Is Gerond the one who went to Pitt.
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 1: Is Geronda the one who went to Pitt? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was on that real team and they played here
Speaker 1: in the state turned and roperena.
Speaker 3: Yeah they sure did, Sure did, sure did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and his brother went to Morehead and then transferred
Speaker 1: to U of L. I remember those guys.
Speaker 3: They're not brothers, they're not brothers, but they they're both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well anyway, that was that was quite a
Speaker 1: run that he had with Pitt. That was fun watching that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And kent State had the kid who was uh, really
Speaker 1: good but but smallish college basketball center went on to
Speaker 1: be a tight end in the NFL. I cannot his
Speaker 1: name escapes me, but uh, yes, that's it Antonio Gates.
Speaker 1: That's right, very good man. You got a good Your
Speaker 1: mind is sharper than mine. Just a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: left with Sean Woods. We're talking, of course about Jasper
Speaker 1: Johnson coming on to Kentucky. But there's a lot of
Speaker 1: basketball to be played between then and now. Uh. But
Speaker 1: whenever he gets here, Sean, uh, he will be further
Speaker 1: ahead than Malachi Moreno. There, They're gonna need a little
Speaker 1: bit of patience with a big guy, don't just about
Speaker 1: You always have to be patient with bigs, don't you.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah you do, you know, but I tell you
Speaker 3: what now, let me tell you something. I watched Malachi
Speaker 3: for a little bit a few games last year. He's
Speaker 3: better than what you think. It's just when you're big
Speaker 3: and you're playing against smaller guys in high school all
Speaker 3: the time, you know, you kind of look out plays.
Speaker 3: But what he showed me was he was still affective
Speaker 3: even playing against undersized guys. That's what his ball handling ability.
Speaker 3: You know, he blocked every shot he was supposed to block.
Speaker 3: He finished every shot that he was supposed to make.
Speaker 3: He was able to put the ball on the floor
Speaker 3: and not look goofy against undersized guys. I think he's
Speaker 3: a real deal, and I think he's underestimated as far
Speaker 3: as and he had a great summer. You know, he's
Speaker 3: going against some of the best guys in America too,
Speaker 3: and he wouldn't be recruited by Kentucky, you know. So
Speaker 3: you know he's legit and he's gonna be you know,
Speaker 3: he has an opportunity be one of the better guys
Speaker 3: to play one of the big Blue if he keeps
Speaker 3: it up and he keeps his work after and he
Speaker 3: stays empty.
Speaker 1: I hope he gets back to the Sweet sixteen. We
Speaker 1: all know it's not easy. But that's that's when so
Speaker 1: many people got a chance to see him, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. I hope that you get a
Speaker 1: chance to go to practice as much as you did
Speaker 1: in the past with this new staff. But we will
Speaker 1: come back with you and talk more basketball next week.
Speaker 1: Save travels while you're on the road, coach.
Speaker 3: Thanks Dick, I appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 1: That would be cool if Jasper Johnson did go back
Speaker 1: to Woodford County, but probably a little too late by now,
Speaker 1: but I enjoyed watching him with little I got to
Speaker 1: see him in the sweet sixteen last year, didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to see him at all during the regular season.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, you know, you can't blame kids for
Speaker 1: going to the academies. They do get a little money
Speaker 1: or a lot of money, and uh, they get a
Speaker 1: chance to be scouted by I don't know who, but
Speaker 1: he was gonna that was gonna happen with him anyway
Speaker 1: if he played at Woodford County. So anyhow, we do
Speaker 1: appreciate Sean woods it up next. West n Bureau Chief
Speaker 1: Gary Moore here on the Big Blueing Sider six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Big Blueing cider. It is Wednesdays.
Speaker 1: Joining us now on our Celebrity hotline is everybody's favorite celebrity.
Speaker 1: He is our West End bureau chief at the other
Speaker 1: end of I sixty four. Mister Gary Moore, are just.
Speaker 4: Your favorite celebrity.
Speaker 1: Well, you know you're here on with us, so that
Speaker 1: makes you the celebrity of the moment.
Speaker 7: Well a week ago I was there in person. Who
Speaker 7: I had a great thanks again for the Joe Bees
Speaker 7: by the way afterwards and the tour of I know
Speaker 7: it's the best and I had been there in forever
Speaker 7: and still is the greatest.
Speaker 4: And we saw Joe b he was there.
Speaker 1: It was about that that about that.
Speaker 4: Love that guy and the restaurant pool. Oh man, it's
Speaker 4: I had to get a picture with him. But thank
Speaker 4: you again.
Speaker 7: It's good to go, and thanks for the tour around
Speaker 7: you know campus in Lexington. You know, Lexington is one
Speaker 7: of the great cities period with what they've done around
Speaker 7: there and then the athletic complex and everything.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I told you wouldn't believe it. I
Speaker 1: mean it's amazing.
Speaker 7: For dorms, yeah, yeah, the corporate kind of constructed dorms whatever.
Speaker 1: Yep, private money dorms or private companies. But anyhow, yeah,
Speaker 1: the indoor track facility. And we drove by the stadium.
Speaker 1: So Gary had been here really very long since the
Speaker 1: early eighties.
Speaker 4: Your alma maters looking good.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 7: So here we go, two guys in a six pack,
Speaker 7: you and me and six topics of interest up first.
Speaker 4: Here our first.
Speaker 7: Sip and two guys in a six pack dick. Later
Speaker 7: this month, Saturday Night Live begins its fiftieth season on NBC.
Speaker 7: Of course, that began with a very talented comedy group
Speaker 7: called the Not Ready for Primetime Players. We all remember
Speaker 7: John Belushi and Akaroyd and Chevy Chase and all those folks.
Speaker 7: You could give that same name to a group of
Speaker 7: football play by play and color commentator guys who need,
Speaker 7: in some cases a lot of extra reps to be
Speaker 7: network primetime ready.
Speaker 4: Now. I don't know if Tom Brady.
Speaker 7: Sounded game day polished or not, but I can tell
Speaker 7: tell you who most definitely was not ready for prime time.
Speaker 7: Former quarterback McCoy on NBC ironically covering coach Prime and
Speaker 7: Colorado's face plant at Nebraska on Saturday Night. A lot
Speaker 7: of eyes on that game. I think they had over
Speaker 7: six million dick watching that game. That was a pretty
Speaker 7: good raided game. NBC, by the way, the same network
Speaker 7: that thought Drew Brees would be a fabulous color commentator
Speaker 7: which lasted all of one game because he was really,
Speaker 7: really awful. NBC thought giving McCoy a primetime mike after
Speaker 7: apparently not working his way up and paying any broadcast dues,
Speaker 7: thinking that was a splendid job. Yeah, I just put
Speaker 7: him in there.
Speaker 4: It'll be fun.
Speaker 7: Well, make that two face plants on Saturday night and
Speaker 7: you can check social media's reaction if you think I'm joking.
Speaker 7: I didn't know he was going to be on as
Speaker 7: the color guy. I had it on. I joined the
Speaker 7: game late, and I had him on kind of in
Speaker 7: the background for the first five minutes of the game,
Speaker 7: and I'm thinking, who is this who along with the
Speaker 7: play by play guys name I forgot he was actually okay,
Speaker 7: But McCoy was using this over using phrases like well
Speaker 7: this here and now watch this on the replays, which
Speaker 7: of course is not good. And plus he doesn't have
Speaker 7: a good speaking voice, kind of a prerequisite for all broadcasting.
Speaker 1: And he did.
Speaker 7: About as well as this dick as I would have
Speaker 7: done doing his former job being a quarterback in the NFL. Well,
Speaker 7: you know, I've covered a lot of football. How tough
Speaker 7: can it be? Just let me get in there. That
Speaker 7: seems to be the attitude, isn't it. A lot of
Speaker 7: guys who played the game, and guys, oh, broadcasting simple,
Speaker 7: you can do it. Look at all these You'll be fine.
Speaker 7: Just get in there and we'll do some practice things.
Speaker 7: You'll be fine. Meanwhile, a lot of guys who've worked
Speaker 7: a lot of years and a lot of smaller markets
Speaker 7: and done a lot of dues paying have made it
Speaker 7: look easy for a lot of people because they worked
Speaker 7: hard at it.
Speaker 1: There are guys who are great interviews, and you think,
Speaker 1: and I've worked with some of some people like this,
Speaker 1: You think this will be really good, and then it's not.
Speaker 1: It doesn't translate. You made a great point about Drew Brees. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: let me double back. And I talked about Tom Brady
Speaker 1: the other day. It was his first game. Ye you,
Speaker 1: you've been a professional broadcaster your entire career. As of
Speaker 1: I would you want to go back to the form
Speaker 1: that you flashed your very first time on the air.
Speaker 1: I know I wouldn't know. People people get better peep,
Speaker 1: So you got to give him a chance to improve.
Speaker 1: But you knew right away with Drew Brees, this is
Speaker 1: going to be a problem. Uh you know, and I
Speaker 1: do believe that Brady will get better. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: it was really good. I thought was Matty Ice on
Speaker 1: the on the Uh Matt Ryan, Yes, agreed, he was terrific.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it ain't easy. And that's all they do
Speaker 1: is underscore that. But some people give them time. You know,
Speaker 1: it was no good honestly when she started Robin Roberts
Speaker 1: and because she started in sports, now she's one of
Speaker 1: the best in the business. Somebody James Brown, I knew
Speaker 1: a little bit back in the day, but people stuck
Speaker 1: with him. They saw something and then they are given
Speaker 1: a chance to develop and blossom. But some people know
Speaker 1: it never happens.
Speaker 7: I won't watch well, I was gonna watch Brady anyway
Speaker 7: because it's the Cowboys. I'm not gonna sit through that, no,
Speaker 7: guardless of who's doing the game. But I'm not gonna
Speaker 7: watch Tom for the next If he's on, I don't
Speaker 7: watch him for a month or two. I'm not gonna
Speaker 7: watch somebody's very first ever broadcast.
Speaker 1: I was curious so I did, but I will not
Speaker 1: run to a game and watch it because he's on.
Speaker 1: That's right. Puzzles me.
Speaker 7: Same thing in radio in LA, people say, hey, did
Speaker 7: you hear my first show? No, I'm not going to
Speaker 7: listen to you for another month or so. Get some
Speaker 7: get some, get some reps underneath you, and then we'll
Speaker 7: talk about it about a month. Okay, I'll sit down
Speaker 7: now our second swig. I think, Dick, this is the
Speaker 7: earliest I've ever asked this question, either seriously or rhetorically.
Speaker 4: But when does UK basketball season start again?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 7: Well, can you blame UK fans? We're thinking that after
Speaker 7: Saturday's f minus result against South Carolina Refresher nine half
Speaker 7: point favorites at home, losing thirty one to six, big
Speaker 7: Blue Wall now resembling toll free Express Lanes to quarterbacks
Speaker 7: who had problems throwing for even forty five yards. Partially
Speaker 7: because of that, and now now, as we know, the
Speaker 7: number one team in America this Saturday night, seven thirty
Speaker 7: National TV, even ABC George a twenty four point favorite.
Speaker 7: Some say this could be over by the second quarter,
Speaker 7: but you know, Dick, Saturday's loss to South Carolina was
Speaker 7: especially egregious not just because UK's lost four out of
Speaker 7: six now of South Carolina three in a row or
Speaker 7: eight out of their last ten SEC home games, or
Speaker 7: because how much Stoops makes, or because he asked people
Speaker 7: to pony up more dough for in il, or because
Speaker 7: he had an overnight flirtation with Texas A and M,
Speaker 7: or even because he supposedly mocked Coach Beamer of Carolina
Speaker 7: a couple years ago with the sunglasses and dancing thing.
Speaker 4: No, it was one of the.
Speaker 7: Worst losses in school history because ESPN and game Day
Speaker 7: was headed to Lexington, according to Paul Finebaum, but instead,
Speaker 7: guess where they're going Columbia South Carolina. So we get
Speaker 7: number one Georgia here. And you remember two years ago
Speaker 7: it was a close game, sixteen to six, but that
Speaker 7: was November. The weather was crummy. You were there, you know,
Speaker 7: and we also had a quarterback who was going to
Speaker 7: the NFL. I don't think any of those caveats will
Speaker 7: be in play on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Now. It's gonna be tough, it's gonna be rough, and
Speaker 1: all you can do is hope that you know, the
Speaker 1: Wildcats have their fundamentals down and have short memories, like
Speaker 1: defensive backs are supposed to have got it. It's all
Speaker 1: about play the next play.
Speaker 7: Third swig and six pack besides cats and dogs. Saturday night,
Speaker 7: my WKU boys traveled to Murphreysboro playing Middle Tennessee in
Speaker 7: a Conference USA showdown, somewhat of a recent rivalry. You know,
Speaker 7: they trying to make it in one, but it's nothing
Speaker 7: like Eastern and Western the Battle of the Bluegrass. It
Speaker 7: happened last Saturday night. Toppers won that one thirty one,
Speaker 7: and nothing should have been by more. I would have
Speaker 7: been happy with a sixty to nothing, but I'll take
Speaker 7: that one.
Speaker 4: My thanks to the ill.
Speaker 7: Advised EKU Athletic department for making Western wear red jerseys
Speaker 7: when it had been scheduled for months in advance. It
Speaker 7: was going to be a wide out, but EKU, being
Speaker 7: the visiting team, has the option of like, yeah, we're
Speaker 7: gonna wear white.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 7: Thank you for poking the blob, not the bear right
Speaker 7: to the blah exactly. Some other big college games this
Speaker 7: week Friday nine, check this out. This will be good
Speaker 7: eight pm on Fox, Number twenty Arizona at number fourteen
Speaker 7: Kansas State. Then on Saturday you got number sixteen at
Speaker 7: South Carolina LSU is a seven point favorite, by the way,
Speaker 7: that could go down. Number twenty four Boston College at
Speaker 7: number six missoo Miszoo's now up to a seventeen point favorite,
Speaker 7: and number nine Oregon at hated rival Oregon State. This
Speaker 7: is the Civil War game and it's almost always at
Speaker 7: the end of the year. Yeah, so Oregon is a
Speaker 7: sixteen point favorite. I don't know if that's gonna happen.
Speaker 7: I think Oregon State might surprise some folks. And then
Speaker 7: you got number four Alabama making a rare public performance
Speaker 7: outside the the captivity of safe and secure South by
Speaker 7: playing Wisconsin in Wisconsin, no lame neutral sites above the Masons.
Speaker 7: First time in thirteen years, Dick, the Bama's played a
Speaker 7: non conference game above the Mason Dixon Line. Y'all yelling
Speaker 7: down there in Dixie. What's going on with that? Bama
Speaker 7: is a sixteen point favorite. Any of those games you're
Speaker 7: going to be watching.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you that the oddest one is Oregon
Speaker 1: Oregon State no longer a conference game. True, you know,
Speaker 1: Oregon State left behind. So I'll spend a dial before
Speaker 1: I head to the stadium and try to watch as
Speaker 1: many of them as I can.
Speaker 4: By the way U of L's got a SPA day
Speaker 4: on Saturday.
Speaker 7: They have after playing two games, they have a bye week.
Speaker 4: Wow, which is kind of odd.
Speaker 7: But they have another bye. They've had two bye weeks
Speaker 7: this season, one coming up between Clemson and Stanford road
Speaker 7: games in November. All right, now on the NFL, you know,
Speaker 7: it's a shame we don't have Leonard's losers around anymore,
Speaker 7: not just for college.
Speaker 4: But he would have a field day of course after
Speaker 4: the UK game.
Speaker 7: So many losers on Sunday, NFL you got Cincinnati now
Speaker 7: losing five of six games under Zach Taylor. Opening games
Speaker 7: Burrow out played by Jacoby Brissett. As much as I
Speaker 7: hate the Cowboys, I reveled in their dominance against Cleveland.
Speaker 7: Some other losers Kirk Cousins, the Falcons, Samuel Daniel Jones,
Speaker 7: and the gents who were booed off the field Will Levis,
Speaker 7: former Cat literally throwing away the titles. Yeah, and this
Speaker 7: week's biggest losers appear to be the Raiders nine and
Speaker 7: a half. Dogs at Baltimore probably go to two after
Speaker 7: being hardbought over the weekend. Second biggest spread Tampa Bay
Speaker 7: at Detroit. Lions are seven point favorites, and you've also
Speaker 7: got in there. The Bengals, we're talking about them. They're
Speaker 7: six point dogs at Kansas City. They're probably oh to
Speaker 7: two after that one. And Dick watch out for the
Speaker 7: Saints of Dallas. SAME's looked really good. Of course they're
Speaker 7: playing Caroline over the weekend and the Boys are six
Speaker 7: and a half point favorites. But that could be going down.
Speaker 7: And I know your Packers are in there as well.
Speaker 4: I didn't. Oh yeah, three pointed dogs at home to
Speaker 4: the Colts. Thanks.
Speaker 1: We talk about talking about losers. Yeah, Jordan Love the
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar man stinks it up down in Brazil
Speaker 1: and then bad ankle injuries, so you talk about it.
Speaker 1: That's a double loss.
Speaker 4: We had a bad feeling about that game, didn't.
Speaker 1: We Yep, all right, Fitthzwig before any of that though.
Speaker 7: Tomorrow night in primetime on Amazon eight to fifteen, great
Speaker 7: match of Buffalo at Miami. Dolphins are at point and
Speaker 7: a half favorite. Of course, Tyreek, whose street cred is
Speaker 7: now way off the charts, had seven receptions on Sunday
Speaker 7: plus a touchdown. And if you're driving your six figure
Speaker 7: McLaren over the speed limit by the football stadium, and
Speaker 7: you're pulled over by law enforcement officer for speeding, he
Speaker 7: taps on your pitch black tinted window. Don't tell him,
Speaker 7: don't knock on my window.
Speaker 4: Seven times. That's how many times he said that.
Speaker 7: And you might want to respect of a peace officer,
Speaker 7: by the way, is a nasty allergy. It causes folks
Speaker 7: to break out in handcuffs, as.
Speaker 4: We saw over the weekend.
Speaker 7: By the way, speaking of Thursday night football, the worst,
Speaker 7: maybe the worst pregame panel I've ever seen, Dick after
Speaker 7: admitting she made up stuff coming over at halftime when
Speaker 7: she was on the sidelines, how is Carissa Thompson still
Speaker 7: even employed? I mean, I ask you, the greatest sideline
Speaker 7: reporter ever. Yeah, I made up all that stuff. Stoop said, Hey,
Speaker 7: he's not gonna argue with me. What would happen if
Speaker 7: something like that came out.
Speaker 1: Well, I should be fired if that happened. So that's
Speaker 1: a good question. There are different standards, evidently for different
Speaker 1: people and different networks.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Fine, well sixth swig, Dick. If you're any kind of
Speaker 7: a baseball fan, any level, there's a terrific piece in
Speaker 7: Money's La Times by Dodgers beat writer Jack Harris and
Speaker 7: it's got local Lexington appeal titled self fulfilling prophecy the
Speaker 7: Dodgers role in MLB's pitching injury epidemic and its a
Speaker 7: dubious role to the least. Jack points out that since
Speaker 7: twenty twenty one of the Dodgers have had to put
Speaker 7: pictures on the injured list ninety eight times, or about
Speaker 7: twenty four times a season, and of course they started
Speaker 7: the season with seven pictures on the IL, and one
Speaker 7: of those seven Walker Buehler from there in Lexington, who's
Speaker 7: coming back second time from Tommy John surgery. Mixed results
Speaker 7: so far, but interesting. He's in the first eleven paragraphs
Speaker 7: of this story, and Walker says, quote talking about how
Speaker 7: he started to throw harder and harder as he came
Speaker 7: up through college and into the minor leagues.
Speaker 4: He said, but had I not done that?
Speaker 7: Who knows if I get to the big leagues, right,
Speaker 7: he says, I think if you would have asked me
Speaker 7: five years ago, just you're gonna have surgery whenever, But
Speaker 7: here's what your career is gonna look like till then.
Speaker 7: Then Yeah, that's fine, unquote Walker Buehler. So that's where
Speaker 7: we are isn't it to keep throwing as hard as
Speaker 7: you can, as long as you can. If you get
Speaker 7: the contract, that's great. If you blow out your arm, well,
Speaker 7: I hope.
Speaker 4: It was fun. Hope we got some champions. But I
Speaker 4: made it.
Speaker 1: That's unfortunate. But yeah, that's the way it is. And
Speaker 1: I always go back to what Auburn's coach told me.
Speaker 1: A lot of other coaches would say as well. But
Speaker 1: he is kind of a pitching grove. He says something's
Speaker 1: got to give, and now we're seeing it. Gary Moore
Speaker 1: is our West n bureau chief. We'll come back with
Speaker 1: some hot reads for Gary in just a minute. Here
Speaker 1: on a big boon sider six thirty WLAPL. Welcome back.
Speaker 1: We're talking with our West m bureau chief, Gary Moore.
Speaker 1: We've heard two guys in a six back. Time to
Speaker 1: throw a couple of hot reads at Gary. You were
Speaker 1: talking a lot about the NFL and one of the
Speaker 1: things I find I don't know if I find it weird, funny, charming, whatever,
Speaker 1: but a team, any team that is just desperate for success,
Speaker 1: looking at you, Chicago Bears, when they see any ray
Speaker 1: of hope, any ray of sunshine, they just lose their minds.
Speaker 1: That's where we are in the NFL now. And I'm
Speaker 1: speaking specifically about Kayleb Williams, who is a talented guy,
Speaker 1: but he got everybody excited. You and I talked about
Speaker 1: this in the preseason when he went basically like six
Speaker 1: or whatever, but flashed him just brilliant plays. And when
Speaker 1: you look at what he did over the weekend, he
Speaker 1: became one of, if not the first NFL quarterback in
Speaker 1: forever to throw twenty five times for less than one
Speaker 1: hundred yards, completion percent forty eight, no touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: three point two yards per attempt, and yet they win.
Speaker 1: And he threw some really nice passes and scrambled once
Speaker 1: on third and ten. So Bear's nation, man, they're digging it.
Speaker 1: What do we make of this?
Speaker 7: Well, it's one game, and you know how every year.
Speaker 7: This happens every year, whether it's a rookie quarterback or
Speaker 7: a veteran quarterback. If somebody doesn't do what a lot
Speaker 7: of people thought they were going to do or looked
Speaker 7: as good as they did playing against second and third
Speaker 7: and fourth string people in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Well that's I don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 7: You know, the overreaction in the first actually first couple
Speaker 7: of weeks. Yeah, is almost something you can predict, like
Speaker 7: a son un rise. The super Bowl is not in October.
Speaker 7: A lot of football left. Did they win the game, Yes,
Speaker 7: they win the game. Did he throw for any interceptions? No,
Speaker 7: didn't turn the ball over. Did he have horrible offensive
Speaker 7: line play yes? Did the front seven for the Titans
Speaker 7: give him a lot of problems yes? Did Will Levis
Speaker 7: have a worse day?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: And did Will Levis give like you said, give the
Speaker 1: game to them? Yes, yes, exactly. Hey, but you're the Bears.
Speaker 1: You'll grab on a a. And speaking of fans and quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: what do you think Jets fans are feeling this week
Speaker 1: because they got their guy back. He got more than
Speaker 1: four plays in his very first pacity through was dropped
Speaker 1: by one of his teammates. Yea, you know, and he
Speaker 1: got the look so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it hit him in a bad place, his hands,
Speaker 7: right in the hands, that's right.
Speaker 1: Our second hot Reid goes to back to a Woodford
Speaker 1: County Jasper Johnson, as we all know, chooses Kentucky and
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of theater. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you got to see it live or on the
Speaker 1: local news there. But I gotta give him credit, and
Speaker 1: I know you like a good theatrical moment, but it
Speaker 1: was creative. It was kind of corny, but creative. What
Speaker 1: Donato's is on the line or whoever it was. And
Speaker 1: you know he didn't do the game with the jersey
Speaker 1: or with the hats. It was something new and I
Speaker 1: gave him full credit for that, pulling the jersey out
Speaker 1: of the pizza box.
Speaker 7: And there was a lot of sponsorships there too, wasn't there.
Speaker 7: Is that the most you've ever seen or any Have
Speaker 7: you ever seen that kind of sponsorship before one of
Speaker 7: these kinds of things, whether it's here or some other place.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't well it wasn't legal up until this year,
Speaker 1: but he had he had two different backdrops with sponsors,
Speaker 1: had the Morgan and Morgan T shirt and he had
Speaker 1: the pizza box. I mean, I heard somebody told me,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's accurate or not, the figure
Speaker 1: that he made about twenty five grand just on that
Speaker 1: day alone.
Speaker 4: It's free market, now, isn't it.
Speaker 1: That is?
Speaker 7: Let me ask you this, And I saw that I
Speaker 7: got to think and even crazier things do you foresee
Speaker 7: a time in college sports when ads are on jerseys?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do, simply because you're seeing him now on
Speaker 1: the scores tables, you're seeing them on the playing surfaces.
Speaker 1: And we've talked before, schools are running out of revenue streams.
Speaker 1: We never thought we'd see him on the pants of jockeys,
Speaker 1: did we. Nope, now we see him. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: could see just a tasteful patch. Well you already do, Gary,
Speaker 1: You see a swoosh, you know, So what else is there?
Speaker 4: I think it's coming.
Speaker 7: I mean at some point probably in our lifetime as well,
Speaker 7: whether we like it or not.
Speaker 1: But one thing we know. They will not consult you
Speaker 1: and me. But I do consult Gary every week at
Speaker 1: the other end of I sixty four. He is our
Speaker 1: West End bureau chief after years as our West Coast
Speaker 1: bureau chief. Find him at Twitter.
Speaker 7: At nine to five five, Gary, the same joint where
Speaker 7: you're at, a.
Speaker 1: Big blue Insider one. Thank you, sir. We will talk
Speaker 1: to you next week.
Speaker 4: Go cats, better do it.
Speaker 1: Thanks to my guest, Gary Moore, Shawn Woods, kent Spencer,
Speaker 1: Kentucky football comes up Saturday five thirty airtime. Right here
Speaker 1: that said, good night, for the garage in Lexington.
Speaker 7: If you're blue and you don't know where to go to,
Speaker 7: why don't you go where fashion?
Speaker 5: Since where
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