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<v Speaker 1>This is Sham and I with the Mets and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Bapflip's End Nerds.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to Baplips and Nerds, the Baseball Podcast

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<v Speaker 2>with the Twist. I am your host this evening, Russ

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<v Speaker 2>a Lisam and this evening, I am here with Darius. Darius,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to your first part of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it It's been a while. Yeah, almost made it

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<v Speaker 3>through the whole of January. Now you and John are

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<v Speaker 3>just hogging the airtime. Russ can't get my way in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's because me and John have been putting interviews

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<v Speaker 2>for when we can actually do them. Sot everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>John did ask me about Kyle, to be fair, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was on my way home at the time we

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<v Speaker 3>were starting, so I thought it's probably probably not appropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and also joining me fresh off his hooded up

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<v Speaker 2>traitors behavior that we saw last week. Rob navaras, how

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<v Speaker 2>we doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I still have the hood otherwise, Yeah, at the beginning

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<v Speaker 4>of a cold. So if I do sound a little

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<v Speaker 4>husky and sexy, you know, you're only human and it's

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<v Speaker 4>down but that could be coming over.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, this week we're going to do a quick

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<v Speaker 2>exercise what we'd like to call ins and outs or

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<v Speaker 2>keepspin where we're going to just look through some things

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<v Speaker 2>from twenty twenty four that we want to say goodbye to,

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<v Speaker 2>something that we want to keep, and some things we

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<v Speaker 2>expect to be new in twenty twenty five. But before

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<v Speaker 2>we do that, I feel that there has been an

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<v Speaker 2>important moment in baseball that we must discuss. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we saw potentially the bat flip that had the highest

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<v Speaker 2>hang time I've ever seen. I think it may have

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<v Speaker 2>also got about sixty meters in the air. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Junior Camenio's go ahead home run in the game

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<v Speaker 2>seven of the lead home final Darius lead on Mental.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, I mean I think anybody who hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 3>anything from leudom before probably got flavor of what the

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<v Speaker 3>experience is like. I think it was a pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>advertisement for the game. Obviously, it sounds like some people

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<v Speaker 3>are grumpy about this, you know, showing pictures up not

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<v Speaker 3>behaving in the way that players are supposed to behave.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, watch that and you don't think that's fantastic,

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<v Speaker 3>then I guess maybe you don't like joy. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>just a great time all around, wonderful battleflip? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>a bat flip? At that point we have to call

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<v Speaker 3>it something else when it reaches that altitude, a battle launch,

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<v Speaker 3>that launch, Yeah, you know, terminal escaped the atmosphere. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what we call it, but it was great

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, is a great time, a great way to

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<v Speaker 3>fill the gap in the in between the multiple seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm all for it. Well done, Junior Camenira and Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that as this man may sup plan for

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<v Speaker 2>the team that you are a fan of, this is

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<v Speaker 2>only something that you can be more excited about to

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<v Speaker 2>come from it. And congratulations Rob, you are muted to

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<v Speaker 2>start the pod.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey nice and profession around here. What I was is, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not his fault. However, forgive me if I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>excited about the young Dominican phenom who's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>playing middle infield for the Rays next year. Been burned before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the guy's the guy's electric. It's fantastic. Barring something awful happening,

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to be, you know, the next big flashy

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<v Speaker 4>Ray to be to be dancing around the infield and

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<v Speaker 4>doing special things for the race. I'm really excited about him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's fantastic that he's he's showing off his spirit,

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<v Speaker 4>and we were all fairly on a line on this

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<v Speaker 4>podcast that we all kind of agree that that we

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<v Speaker 4>would rather see people backflipping and showing you know, he

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<v Speaker 4>had tears at the end of the end of the

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<v Speaker 4>game because he really really meant it, He really really

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<v Speaker 4>excited about it. He was really clearly in it. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe there's going to be a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of or the trap needs to calm down and

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<v Speaker 4>get his head in the game properly. Maybe I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of that coming. But yeah, the guy's

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<v Speaker 4>the guy's exciting, he's electric, he's the top prospect, and

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<v Speaker 4>boy do we need it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that's a high highlight for Raised fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Is something that is probably needed right now, especially given

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<v Speaker 2>Yes wander to not having the stadia to play and

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<v Speaker 2>which is probably would be full of Yankees fans.

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, depressing, and you're making it more to prey.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come to that later, Okay. So, as I said

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<v Speaker 2>briefly at the top of the show, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some wants and some believes from twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four and twenty twenty five. So we're going to start

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<v Speaker 2>off with we've got two things each year that we

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<v Speaker 2>want to bin from what happened in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start off as we'll go for this. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to bin the kit issues. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>spending spring training go wondering. Kind of like whire is

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<v Speaker 2>MLB and Nike and fan tracks seemingly made a product worse,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was an absolute faux pa. Really, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like open gold blunder by everybody involved, making the lettering smaller,

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<v Speaker 2>making the kits more see through, making the quality that

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<v Speaker 2>the players got seemingly worse, and the quality that the

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<v Speaker 2>fans could get seemingly worse. They just scored such an

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<v Speaker 2>own goal. And I don't know if it's disappeared, but

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<v Speaker 2>what I've seen from a few of the signings is

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<v Speaker 2>that there does look to be better like lettering on

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<v Speaker 2>those signing jerseys. But who knows what's to come. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming Rob, you were probably as furious as the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of us with the kits last year.

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<v Speaker 4>No, completely the opposite. Who doesn't want to see young

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<v Speaker 4>attractive people's bodies which I could see it awful lot

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<v Speaker 4>of I was lucky enough to go to San Francisco

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<v Speaker 4>last year, visited San Francisco and Oakland. I saw some

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<v Speaker 4>games there, and honestly, in person, that cream San Francisco

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<v Speaker 4>Giants uniform was I mean, it looked bad on TV,

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<v Speaker 4>but my god, when you were there looking at it,

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<v Speaker 4>you could see details. Really, you could see details. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to come over all make Rowley here, but

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<v Speaker 4>like I could see actual details of you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom of people's people's jerseys tucked into their trousers and beyond,

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<v Speaker 4>like well beyond you know, I shouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 4>see a lot of the stuff I should see. So

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<v Speaker 4>if we could just get some trousers you can't see

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<v Speaker 4>through the rest of it, I could probably deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean that that would be a really big start.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that would be. So, then Darius, give

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<v Speaker 2>us something to throw in our MLB Room one oh.

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<v Speaker 3>One, there are room rue o one. Well, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>so much trouble with room runner one already in the I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just talking about that things that happened in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. Let's not just throw cycles again. The fan

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<v Speaker 2>base is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to throw something in that I already know

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<v Speaker 3>is not going to be going in the bin, but

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<v Speaker 3>ought to be going in the bin, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>the San Francisco Giants having a different left fielder every

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<v Speaker 3>single year. And for those who don't know, this is

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<v Speaker 3>basically the curse of Barry Bonds. The Giants have not

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<v Speaker 3>had the same player start in left field on opening

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<v Speaker 3>Day since Barry Bonds was on the Giants, which, as

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<v Speaker 3>many of you will know, was a pretty long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Barry Rons has been retired for the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>years now, so this is a fast I'm actually you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, I'm going to get the list you we

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<v Speaker 3>can play remember some guys with San Francisco Giants left fielders.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's side. The reason we know it's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to happen this year is because Michael Conforto started

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<v Speaker 3>in left field for the Giants on opening down last year.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously Michael Conforto has now signed with the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 3>so the Giants will once again, whoever it ends up being,

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<v Speaker 3>have a different player in left field. And it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of I sort of don't want it to end.

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<v Speaker 3>At some point. But also it's the damning indictment of

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<v Speaker 3>the Giants organization that we literally can't get somebody to

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<v Speaker 3>just stand at left field and be sort of semi

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<v Speaker 3>competent for long enough to be at the starter for

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<v Speaker 3>two consecutive years. So yeah, that's that's why I would

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<v Speaker 3>like to get them in. But I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>wait until twenty twenty six at least, and probably another

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like the that list is probably ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I could probably go back. I could maybe

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<v Speaker 2>guess what Hanneger for the year before, and Jock Pederson

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the year before that. But we we do.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do the whole list since since Bond's started in

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<v Speaker 3>left field in two thousand and seven. Out for the

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<v Speaker 3>third two thousand and seven. Here's the list. It's Dave

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<v Speaker 3>Dave Roberts two thousand and eight, Bred Lewis two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and nine. We've got Mark de Rosa twenty ten, then

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<v Speaker 3>Pat Burrell or half of course, Andres Torres, who remembers

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<v Speaker 3>Andres Torris, good little fancy player for a moment there,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Morse Giants legend, Mike Morse, Noiaoki and help her

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<v Speaker 3>gun We've got Jarrett Parker completely forgot Jarrett Parker even existed,

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter Pence Pence not two years when he was in

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<v Speaker 3>right field. Yeah, previously, Yeah, Connor Joe kicking around still,

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Dickerson, Austin Slater, and then Jock Peterson, Blake Sable

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<v Speaker 3>not even really a left fielder, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a catch a utility guy, and then Michael Conforto. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the list, the whole of shame, the Giants left fielders

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<v Speaker 3>who have replaced.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's likely to do this year?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is likely to do this year? That's a good question. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think he'll probably be Yazz because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>assuming that Lee will be good to start instead of field,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was Fan. Yeah, I don't sure what we

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<v Speaker 3>have Elliott Ramos, Ramos, Yeah, maybe he has a playlet right,

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<v Speaker 3>And either way, Ramos is a good shout because obviously

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<v Speaker 3>there's like a decent chance. If it's Yazz, then he'll

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<v Speaker 3>probably like be too old, We'll have cut him by

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<v Speaker 3>next season, We'll get another guy. Ramos is twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>so there's hope.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember that that might happen, and if he does that,

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<v Speaker 2>he might have earned getting his home run ball back

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<v Speaker 2>by doing something that breaking that curse?

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<v Speaker 3>Are fingers crossed? Yeah? I mean like Ramos did play

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<v Speaker 3>left field a decent chunk last season, So that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>our best hope that that happens. And obviously that he

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<v Speaker 3>actually is going to see looked for seconds of the

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<v Speaker 3>last season. We'll see about that. You understanding my pessimism.

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<v Speaker 3>So that can get in the bin, but it's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that that the list of guys like that,

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<v Speaker 4>there's some genuinely fine like yeah, we're not talking superstars,

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<v Speaker 4>but some genuinely fine blokes on that list who there's

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<v Speaker 4>there's really no reason why they couldn't have done a

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<v Speaker 4>second year. What what's caused the curse? Is it injuries?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it lack of wanting to keep, you know, keep

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<v Speaker 4>good players around? What's what's happened?

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<v Speaker 2>You won three World Series during that type period?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>So much, so much of a curse. Oh no, we've

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<v Speaker 2>been cursed that we've won three World series during.

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<v Speaker 3>Where is me is suffering Giants fan?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Yeah, Rob, what have we being? Good? Lord?

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<v Speaker 4>in particularly, he just caught my attention. I forgot he

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<v Speaker 4>existed anyway, Moving on things to bin. Everyone getting along

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<v Speaker 4>is horrible over the last I've done a bit of research.

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<v Speaker 4>I've gone back and looked, and I felt that over

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<v Speaker 4>the last year we've seen fewer and viewer fights an ejection.

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<v Speaker 4>And now a lot of people, of course will say

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<v Speaker 4>that we don't want people fighting because you know, make peace,

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<v Speaker 4>not all. I for one, like it because it's something

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<v Speaker 4>at a bit of discourse. Something fancy happens when there's

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<v Speaker 4>an ejection. So I went back and looked and tried

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<v Speaker 4>to prove my point that there were in fact fewer

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<v Speaker 4>ejections last year, and I was absolutely right. So going

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<v Speaker 4>back to twenty fourteen, there's been a decided curve down.

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<v Speaker 4>So we started at two hundred and one in ejections

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty fourteen, and then we've got less and less

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<v Speaker 4>and less and less. Then we had a blip in

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<v Speaker 4>other for some reason, which was great, and then carried

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<v Speaker 4>on that trajectory.

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<v Speaker 2>Because just been out that one game between the pirates

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<v Speaker 2>and the Reds.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, probably probably very very important part of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so we obviously have the blip of choice twenty and

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<v Speaker 4>then we carried on it and then again twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>three was a huge year of rejections, absolutely huge for

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<v Speaker 4>reasons beyond me, I don't know. But then we've continued

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<v Speaker 4>on that downslide again. We've got back on the curve

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<v Speaker 4>and we are we are removing ejections from the game,

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<v Speaker 4>which means there's less and less, you know, people getting

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<v Speaker 4>in each other's grills, and we get more and more

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<v Speaker 4>times where everyone's just getting on them. You know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care about that. It's sported, it's pugilistic. It's

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<v Speaker 4>one person against another. That's what it's all about. So

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see the everyone picking flowers, holding hands

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<v Speaker 4>and singing come by heart, going into the bin, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think we need more bites, more suspensions, more ejections.

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<v Speaker 2>And more discal So you heard it here. First. Rob

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<v Speaker 2>wants more head hunting. Darius head hunting just as well.

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<v Speaker 3>People who think that we agree too much in this podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to pass on this tape. I would like

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<v Speaker 3>no head hunting. Can we have zero rejections this season.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm changing mine. That's one of mine. Now I want

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<v Speaker 3>no ejections the whole season.

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<v Speaker 4>And boom, Adrian Beltree got ejected for a very very

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<v Speaker 4>very entertaining reason. I want more of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, only only joke ejections this season. We can agree

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<v Speaker 3>on that, and now come on, Like, what's better than

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<v Speaker 3>a manager arguing balls and strikes? He's come out, he's

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<v Speaker 3>kicked the dirt across the ground, He's screaming in some

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<v Speaker 3>guy's face. He's probably screaming, you know, like how's your wife?

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<v Speaker 3>But you know he's having a shout.

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<v Speaker 4>At the umpires. He gets tasty and the hats flying.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's there's all the infielders stood around looking

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<v Speaker 4>slightly embarrassed. Who doesn't want to see that? That's great?

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<v Speaker 4>Needs to be getting hurt of all about it. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>get people kicked out in games.

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<v Speaker 3>It needs to be like Kyle Schwarber levels of demonstrative,

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<v Speaker 3>like over the top, just very theatrical, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you're in the crowd, you can't really see that,

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<v Speaker 3>well what's going on. You've really got to do the

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<v Speaker 3>hand gestures and funny, go for it. Yeah, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I can just see.

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<v Speaker 4>I've lost Aaron Boone getting ejected for something he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even say last year was one of my absolute eye

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't say anything, and that was that was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>It made beautiful audio, beautiful visuals. Who didn't love that?

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<v Speaker 4>We all saw that. Did you watch, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>Royals play the Tigers for the seventh time of the season. No,

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't, but you did watch that random game because

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<v Speaker 4>you know that ridiculous ejection happened. So more of that,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what we want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I'm okay with coaches and manager rejections

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<v Speaker 2>because they're usually just semi like performative anyway, just to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like to try and vile up the team

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<v Speaker 2>more to do that. So that sort of stuff, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's sort of fine. Maye less player rejections, but

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<v Speaker 2>who rather mascots.

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<v Speaker 4>There's plenty more people you can eject, idiots who force

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<v Speaker 4>some Lookie Bett's hand open, you know, let's kick people

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<v Speaker 4>out of the stands. That's great, let's do all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we need some accordion players in the Major league

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<v Speaker 2>to get ejective. Have you've seen the video of that

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<v Speaker 2>one where it's like some minor league or independent game

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<v Speaker 2>where the organist player starts playing three brand mice and

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<v Speaker 2>the uppire decides to eject the organ.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that, but that in the in the in

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<v Speaker 4>the description, I want to see that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back to me for something to bin. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to ben the current playoff rules for how to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with tires because last year was a farce. That Mets

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<v Speaker 2>versus Atlanta's brave second game was absolutely disgusting, utterly disrespectful

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody else involved in this sport. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>way in any shape or form of the Mets attempted

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<v Speaker 2>in that game. They swung at absolutely everything. They swung

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<v Speaker 2>at things that were outside of the zone. They swung

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<v Speaker 2>more often outside of pitches in that single game than

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<v Speaker 2>they did in any other game in Major League that year.

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<v Speaker 2>Go look at the numbers. It's there. It is like

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<v Speaker 2>it is the same level as I've put in our

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<v Speaker 2>notes the Disgrace of Gujon, which some people will know

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<v Speaker 2>and some people will not know. When West Germany won

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<v Speaker 2>one nil against Austria and they both managed to get

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<v Speaker 2>through at the plight of the Tunisian national team in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty two Rock Football Walk Cup, I honestly

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<v Speaker 2>think people should have kicked up more of us about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was I genuinely think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>disgrace to the sport. And it has come about because

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<v Speaker 2>they we now have these tiebreaka rules where it's just

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<v Speaker 2>about who plays against each other, and we don't get

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<v Speaker 2>to have Game one sixty three anymore endorsed.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm going to play Devil's Advocate. I think the

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<v Speaker 4>obvious reason we need to do this is because we

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<v Speaker 4>have expanded the playoffs, and I was initially maybe a

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<v Speaker 4>bit skeptical about that, but I think we're at a

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<v Speaker 4>good level now because I think it does keep more

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<v Speaker 4>fans entertained. But with those numbers, with an extra round

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<v Speaker 4>of wild card games, if we have yet another round

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<v Speaker 4>of games to sort these out, we're pushing it back

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<v Speaker 4>even further into winter. And we've been lucky that most

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<v Speaker 4>of these games have been played in either a dome

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<v Speaker 4>or in Los Angeles. But you know, that New York

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<v Speaker 4>series could have really stumbled into Paul weather. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we saw it a few years ago in Philadelphia, quite

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<v Speaker 4>a few years ago now, where it was absolutely bloody, freezing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we could get snow in some places. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think I've I can't really tend to agree with

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<v Speaker 4>you guys, but if you're gonna gonna play the counter there,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to we'd be more an uproar if we say,

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<v Speaker 4>got a World Series in you know, Pittsburgh and Minnesota

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<v Speaker 4>and it's under three foot of snow for the whole time,

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<v Speaker 4>So we've got to get these games in, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a way of doing it without having to to

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<v Speaker 4>schedule a day off game another day off. I actually agree.

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<v Speaker 2>For those players. I feel like it's tough ship. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like you've got to play another game, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to play another game the day afterwards, well

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to do that if you've got to play

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<v Speaker 2>another game. But they've got to play another game the

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<v Speaker 2>same day and then play another game afterwards. Should have

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<v Speaker 2>had a better record during this season, so you take

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<v Speaker 2>all of the punishments that you get. Darius, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you what are you putting in the bin for your second?

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<v Speaker 3>What I am binning? Contrived home run celebrations? Just I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mind if it's like something that emerges a bit

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<v Speaker 3>organically and you know you can tell there's like a

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<v Speaker 3>story behind it. Something that that happened spontaneously. That's that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying we can't have home run set. But

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<v Speaker 3>now it's just like every team feels like they've got

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<v Speaker 3>to come up with their own little home run celebration,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just not very interesting to me. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe there's like one or two novel two times that

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<v Speaker 3>is entertaining, and then it gets boring. Some of them

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<v Speaker 3>are just not even really good from the start. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just like a thing they feel like they need to

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<v Speaker 3>do now, a team spirit or whatever, which you don't

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<v Speaker 3>find whatever you need to get through. Soelth through the

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty two game season, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>take a pass on on the vast majority of them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not really doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>For me.

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<v Speaker 3>That weird sausage thing that Brewers had going last year

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<v Speaker 3>was just disgusting. I'm not going going to describe it.

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<v Speaker 3>You can just google Brewis sausage and see what happens

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<v Speaker 3>to people. Just do that. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna pass. So let's see who comes up with the

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<v Speaker 3>first stupid home run celebration that I can complain about

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<v Speaker 3>on the pod.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously you're not a fan of the dong bong.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to say is that do you watch

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<v Speaker 2>any NFL again.

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<v Speaker 4>This podcast? Sorry? Carry on?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you watch much American football? I think I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really need there's no So.

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<v Speaker 2>The minieset the Vikings, over the course of this season

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<v Speaker 2>have been creating new celebrations weekly for if certain players

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<v Speaker 2>score a touchdown, and they've been going through a selection

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<v Speaker 2>of Disney Classic so they have been doing scenes from

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<v Speaker 2>Camp Rock and from High School Musical. Would you be

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<v Speaker 2>okay with these celebrations if it was like a different

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<v Speaker 2>celebration every time, but it was more choreographed or is

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<v Speaker 2>it the kind of repetitive nature of something that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just bordes you quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the repetitive is a big part of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe it would depend on the choreographing. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that maybe would also get a bit dull after

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<v Speaker 3>a while. It'd be quite funny to see some mob

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<v Speaker 3>players having to do a choreograph routeam, especially if they

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<v Speaker 3>were really grumpy about it. I might be into that

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<v Speaker 3>if they were, like, you know, just like grizzled veterans

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<v Speaker 3>being forced to do like a Glee style home run

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<v Speaker 3>celebration dance that would make me laugh. But again, you

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<v Speaker 3>could ask me a couple of weeks after they started

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<v Speaker 3>and I'd be like, I'm bored of this now, so

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<v Speaker 3>I want the variety. Really, it's definitely yeah. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>imagine doing it in front of sixty two games and

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<v Speaker 3>it's still being entertaining no matter what it is. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a hot.

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<v Speaker 4>Take there that Darius is interested in the choreography. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we get Matthew Bourne in, we get some proper, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>proper top notch ballet going on, we're in, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he just doesn't want to see anybody flapping around.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just trying to think, like, who is the funniest

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<v Speaker 3>person who you who would be made to do a choreograph? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>making mad Magsie one like I can around, who's like

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<v Speaker 3>the Brian mccanna of now, Like rules Police, I'm not having.

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<v Speaker 2>This, Okay, Rob, give us our last thing from twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four that we want to put into the bin.

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<v Speaker 4>Twenty twenty four into the beer deferrals. Let's get controversial, okay.

420
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<v Speaker 4>So it's not for the reason that everyone else is

421
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<v Speaker 4>going on about deferrals because I've had a lot of

422
00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.960
<v Speaker 4>heard a lot of arguments saying, you know, it's bad

423
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<v Speaker 4>for competitive balance, it's bad for the player, it's bad

424
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<v Speaker 4>for the teams. I really couldn't care less who it's

425
00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.279
<v Speaker 4>good for and who it's bad for. My issue with

426
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<v Speaker 4>deferrals is it's just weird rich people shit. If I

427
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<v Speaker 4>doubt either any of the three of us, if we

428
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<v Speaker 4>could say, oh, yeah, I'm going to defer half of

429
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<v Speaker 4>my wages now for the next ten years, bullshit. I'm

430
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<v Speaker 4>on the streets, I'm not driving my car, I'm barely eating.

431
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<v Speaker 4>It's weird people shit, And I don't want to have

432
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<v Speaker 4>to know about it because it's just a different world

433
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<v Speaker 4>and it's silly, like they do a job, pay for

434
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<v Speaker 4>the job, go home, you know. And I really don't

435
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<v Speaker 4>care if, oh, it's great for the players or oh

436
00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:39.240
<v Speaker 4>it's great for the teams, I don't care. It's stupid,

437
00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:42.599
<v Speaker 4>weird people, rich people shit, and I'm not interested in it.

438
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<v Speaker 4>I would rather it just went away, purely because I

439
00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:46.880
<v Speaker 4>don't like it. I want to go away, and I

440
00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:48.680
<v Speaker 4>don't care who it's good for, who it's bad for.

441
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<v Speaker 4>It's just weird and it needs to go. Just pay

442
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<v Speaker 4>people for what they're doing now, and that is that

443
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<v Speaker 4>also there's some clearly some there's going to be a

444
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<v Speaker 4>scandal about some tax evasion bollocks coming out of in

445
00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:02.759
<v Speaker 4>a few years time, whereby someone isn't actually you know that,

446
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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's the whole point actually in the place with it.

447
00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:07.240
<v Speaker 4>Of course it is, but but someone's going to get

448
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<v Speaker 4>caught up on it, and then then the whole house

449
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<v Speaker 4>of cards is going to come clapsing down. And I

450
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<v Speaker 4>don't want that just course either it's with rich people

451
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<v Speaker 4>problems and I am not interested in it, thank you

452
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<v Speaker 4>very much. Can we just take it away? Yeah?

453
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<v Speaker 2>I think that the two main sides of why it

454
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<v Speaker 2>does exist is one so basically a player's contract can

455
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<v Speaker 2>look bigger than it actually is. The Airey one is

456
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<v Speaker 2>effectively partially done so he could get the biggest contract

457
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<v Speaker 2>of all time, even though it absolutely wasn't. But it

458
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<v Speaker 2>just makes it look like that. The other side to it,

459
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<v Speaker 2>as he said, it's actually it's quite a bit about

460
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<v Speaker 2>deferring the money to different times when you might not

461
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<v Speaker 2>actually be living in areas or certain tax areas or

462
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<v Speaker 2>more importantly, majorly, players get taxed every place that they

463
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<v Speaker 2>go and play as well. So if you basically just

464
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<v Speaker 2>defer this money to when you're not playing, you'll get

465
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<v Speaker 2>paid that and not have to deal with doing your

466
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<v Speaker 2>taxes in every single city that you go through. So

467
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<v Speaker 2>I definitely think some of it is there to kind

468
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<v Speaker 2>of keep the money out of other people's pockets. But

469
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<v Speaker 2>I do get not wanting it because it's it's a

470
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<v Speaker 2>fath to try and understand what it's going on. The

471
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<v Speaker 2>only reason why I like having deferrals is because we

472
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<v Speaker 2>don't end up with as much Bobby Vanilla day bollocks

473
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<v Speaker 2>as we did before in the past, because everybody was

474
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<v Speaker 2>just like, good, look at the Mets. They're still playing

475
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<v Speaker 2>Bobby Vanilla, and it's like, yeah, it's actually that's good.

476
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<v Speaker 2>Then restructuring their contract was actually a thing that they

477
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<v Speaker 2>did that was smart. But everybody's just like, they're still

478
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<v Speaker 2>playing Bobby Vanilla.

479
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<v Speaker 3>Darius, any thoughts I agree with that statement. I don't

480
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<v Speaker 3>know that there is always I feel like it's sort

481
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<v Speaker 3>of a knee jerk reaction at this point. Somebody just

482
00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:39.400
<v Speaker 3>posts something about Bobby Benir and it's like, let's laugh

483
00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:41.519
<v Speaker 3>in the Mets. We don't need Bobby Benir to laugh

484
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<v Speaker 3>at the Mets, do we like there's lots of material

485
00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 3>out there. Maybe not now they're signed one, so maybe

486
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<v Speaker 3>the Mets will no longer be the figure of fun

487
00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:52.160
<v Speaker 3>in MLB. But over the years there have been many,

488
00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:54.039
<v Speaker 3>many more reasons to enough in the Mets than that,

489
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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think that might be a good thing

490
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<v Speaker 3>about it. I don't really care about deferrals. It's all weird.

491
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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's got too much money. You just sort of have

492
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<v Speaker 3>to not think about it.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So let's move on to something we actually would

494
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<v Speaker 2>like to keep now, things that happened in twenty twenty

495
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<v Speaker 2>four that we would like to see more of. I'm

496
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<v Speaker 2>gonna start off with Brent Rooker's Twitter account. I absolutely

497
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<v Speaker 2>love the fact that we have a major League player

498
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<v Speaker 2>who is at a club that is effectively stopped player

499
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:24.799
<v Speaker 2>teams that will stop fans can communicating with the club

500
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:29.960
<v Speaker 2>because the official Twitter account blocked comments over a year ago. Now,

501
00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>but you still have basically their top player and probably

502
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.759
<v Speaker 2>now the face of that franchise for the next few years,

503
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:39.680
<v Speaker 2>being very active on Twitter, being very active telling people

504
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<v Speaker 2>what it's actually like and telling people to shut up

505
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<v Speaker 2>and listen to someone who actually knows the truth, and

506
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.240
<v Speaker 2>to me, that's awesome. More of it, please, more players

507
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<v Speaker 2>doing the same.

508
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Brent's great honesty is great, do everything he shares

509
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:54.599
<v Speaker 3>what the game is great and I think he's probably

510
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<v Speaker 3>got a very long career in whatever he wants to

511
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<v Speaker 3>do in terms of broadcasting, podcasting, whatever whatever he would like,

512
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.599
<v Speaker 3>because he's got a great personality as well. So yeah,

513
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<v Speaker 3>very entertaining and much more. Please.

514
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a brain there, articular intelligent. You know you

515
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:16.759
<v Speaker 4>genuinely want to hear him talk. Yeah, good bloke, much

516
00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:19.039
<v Speaker 4>much more. I completely agree. That is something we could

517
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<v Speaker 4>do with more.

518
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<v Speaker 2>Of Okay, Rob, what else can we do with more of.

519
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Tider gaps at the top of the divisions? That's something

520
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:28.440
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four had that we haven't had in a while. Again,

521
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<v Speaker 4>I did some research. I pulled some numbers up. Look

522
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<v Speaker 4>at me and against you two bring up numbers.

523
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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, Phil, it's pretty it is pretty

524
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<v Speaker 2>on key for Rob to do research for the kind

525
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<v Speaker 2>of the more feely vibes, the sort of parts agreed.

526
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<v Speaker 4>Well, So, the average gap between first and second in

527
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<v Speaker 4>each division over the last few years in twenty twenty

528
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<v Speaker 4>one was six point four two. Twenty twenty two it

529
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<v Speaker 4>was ten point five, twenty thirteen was eight point three,

530
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:55.559
<v Speaker 4>and then we've dropped away to five point five as

531
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<v Speaker 4>the average gap between number one and two over twenty four.

532
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<v Speaker 4>And it's a little bit death of the super team

533
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:04.960
<v Speaker 4>also a little bit the death of the absolutely dreadful

534
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.319
<v Speaker 4>teams other than the White Sox. You know, the likes

535
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 4>of the A's are pulled the boot straps up a

536
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:10.640
<v Speaker 4>little bit. The Royals much much better. You know that

537
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.160
<v Speaker 4>we haven't had those dreadful teams and it's just made

538
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:17.119
<v Speaker 4>it more competitive. And there's arguments about not wanting to

539
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.079
<v Speaker 4>have a homogious middle, but a homogeneous middle is giving

540
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 4>us better competitions. You know, every division was still in

541
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.960
<v Speaker 4>play in somewhere or other in the last week of

542
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four, So long way that continue because I

543
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.680
<v Speaker 4>don't want to go back to oh it's September. Therefore

544
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:35.480
<v Speaker 4>the AL West has completed, you know, long way the

545
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Padres keep pushing and catching up the Dodgers and the

546
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 4>rest of that division. So yeah, I think I think

547
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:46.039
<v Speaker 4>we had a really competitive year at the top. Again,

548
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 4>not everyone wanting to push as much as they can,

549
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 4>it does have some downsides, but I think I prefer

550
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 4>that to the boom and bust that we've had. We've

551
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<v Speaker 4>seen since sort of COVID days of teams who are

552
00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.000
<v Speaker 4>either brilliant or awful, and the homodgeous middle is given

553
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:01.240
<v Speaker 4>us better competition.

554
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I agree, competition is great. I think you know

555
00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 3>what on of mine is sort of follows on from

556
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 3>this later on. I think, probably slightly, but yeah, it's

557
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.440
<v Speaker 3>good when we have races late into the season, keeps

558
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 3>things interesting. We don't really want to have to hear

559
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 3>about how you know X division is boring or you

560
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.839
<v Speaker 3>know certain teams out spending everybody and making things uninteresting.

561
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:27.400
<v Speaker 4>You know that.

562
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that's overblown anyway, I'll probably come onto that later.

563
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.680
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it was a good race. It was good playoffs,

564
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.920
<v Speaker 3>even though the Dodge is won. I think we had

565
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 3>some very competitive races and blou series are around, so

566
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.200
<v Speaker 3>it's good for baseball, and he continues.

567
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it does, okay, Daris, what would you like to

568
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<v Speaker 2>keep from twenty twenty four?

569
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<v Speaker 3>I would like more more Paul Skins. Basically, I want

570
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.319
<v Speaker 3>more elite rookie pitchers. I also want more Paul Skins

571
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 3>to be fair, but especially Jackson job. I think we're

572
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 3>going to get another one, another sort of you know,

573
00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 3>blow your socks off top of the rotation type startup performance,

574
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.720
<v Speaker 3>hoping for and possibly from Andrew Painter as well. Hasn't

575
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 3>pitched in a couple of years. I don't know if

576
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:05.960
<v Speaker 3>people remember, but he was sort of on track to

577
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 3>start the season in the Phillies rotation incredibly young age

578
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.440
<v Speaker 3>a couple of years ago, and then he needed TJ

579
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:13.160
<v Speaker 3>and ended up missing the last couple of years. So

580
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>we'll see how they bring him along. But I think

581
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 3>both of them have got your real front end talent,

582
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 3>and I think this kind of stuff is also just

583
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:22.079
<v Speaker 3>great for baseball. When we have the young guys come

584
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere and really show that their high end talent,

585
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.839
<v Speaker 3>it's really good. You know, we are living in an

586
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<v Speaker 3>age where we don't have a ton of these sort

587
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 3>of real number one starter as anymore. The old guard

588
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 3>are fading away now, you know, Kersher and Verlander and

589
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 3>shirts are not what they used to be. We haven't

590
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.359
<v Speaker 3>had a ton of guides coming through to really replace that.

591
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 3>So I would like to see us get back those

592
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, appointment of viewing number one, three or four

593
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 3>races that just kind of occupy that space, and I think, yeah,

594
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.200
<v Speaker 3>hopefully that job can do that for us.

595
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know it'll be awesome to I think the

596
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 2>side always is we've now got skens going into that

597
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.559
<v Speaker 2>sophomore time period. Are we going to see the slump

598
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 2>teams maybe worked out what do against him or not?

599
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>But no joke and plaintish both fascinating. You'd love to

600
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>either to get full seasons out of there, to get

601
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.200
<v Speaker 2>them in May, and having impact on teams that are

602
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>going to make the rosters, going to make the post

603
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you that was the only thing that basically missing from

604
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 2>stuff that he very much felt like an Otani where

605
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:18.799
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, he's amazing in the playoffs.

606
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 4>I would question. Now this is a question to both

607
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<v Speaker 4>of you. Pick a number. What percentage of Paul schemes

608
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:25.759
<v Speaker 4>do you think is the mustache? And what I mean

609
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 4>is like, there's plenty of fantastic young pictures out there,

610
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.880
<v Speaker 4>like they're you know, and is no doubt his talent

611
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 4>is good enough that he is it should be at

612
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 4>the tip of everyone's tongue in the discussions. But the

613
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.920
<v Speaker 4>mustache does something. It's not just it's not just a

614
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.720
<v Speaker 4>neutral in there, like there is a percentage of this

615
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Speaker 4>poor Schemes experience and why everyone loves Paul Skimes that

616
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 4>is to do with the mustache. So what percentage of

617
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 4>him is mustache and what percentage of him is everything else?

618
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.599
<v Speaker 4>Because I don't think it's zero.

619
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<v Speaker 2>So I think if you're going to start this like

620
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>logical argument, that you have to start at the most

621
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 2>extreme end of and go start with Tom Sellek so effectively,

622
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.519
<v Speaker 2>like if we can basically say, for him, how much

623
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>is it the mustache that gives us basically a high

624
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:11.319
<v Speaker 2>point to work from rob and then we can kind

625
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>of bring ourselves down like is it is it too

626
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>much to say it's like even like thirty forty percent

627
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 2>of like what it is is.

628
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.480
<v Speaker 3>The mustache tom Selleck.

629
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. I mean I don't think

630
00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 4>I'd even be able to pick him out of a

631
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 4>lineup if he didn't have the mustache, and he certainly

632
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.640
<v Speaker 4>hasn't got any acting talent. Okay, so come out with

633
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 4>Selic But I think Skins is probably less mustache. But

634
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:39.680
<v Speaker 4>I still don't think it's it's not a zero.

635
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a zero. I still think it's

636
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>a reasonable one, maybe in the teens or the early

637
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 2>twenties percentage. I think there are other things to Skeins

638
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 2>as well. Obviously his rookie nature which he had last year,

639
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>which he will lose, so the mustache should be could

640
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>could become more important. He does have a famous partner

641
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>as well, and they'll be done, which I think is

642
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:01.319
<v Speaker 2>also part of the scheme Ran. But yeah, if you

643
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>were to shave his mustache off and put him in

644
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>the Yankees in stripes, would you would you? Would you

645
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:09.759
<v Speaker 2>recognize Paul Skins? Darius?

646
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I think so, just because at first I thought I

647
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>was actually asking literally what percentage of Paul Skins's body,

648
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, well, tall, very much. It's not

649
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 3>it's not quite the seleg you know. I don't think

650
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 3>it occupies quite enough of his face that I would

651
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 3>be confused when it disappeared. You know, some of these

652
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 3>guys go to the Yankees and you're like, what, who

653
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:41.519
<v Speaker 3>was under there? Gret Garrett Cole having to shave to

654
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 3>go into Yankees was as much made weird than Paul

655
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 3>Skins would be. And he also hasn't been like we've

656
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>had one season of pl Skins basically, so I've not

657
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>like got, you know, a decade of with a Tash

658
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 3>and grained into my memory. I'm sure it won't take

659
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>that long for the Yankees to sign him. Obviously the

660
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Pirates won't extend him, but yeah, I think there would

661
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 3>still be obviously that double take moment where you're like,

662
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 3>what where's the Tash? Why I should have put this

663
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:07.640
<v Speaker 3>on my list? Why isn't that in the Yankees?

664
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, yeah, we know, because it's just not

665
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>going to change, Like there's there's like I'm waiting for,

666
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>like the superstar that would be like basically tell them

667
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.319
<v Speaker 2>to jog on, but who knows, we're not going to

668
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>get there. All right, We'll move on to the next

669
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 2>thing that I would like to keep, And this is

670
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 2>a very specific thing that is to me and a

671
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 2>subset of fans of one specific team, But I would

672
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>like Cleveland's bullpen to pitch the same as it did

673
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.720
<v Speaker 2>last year. There are not many times where you have

674
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>four pitchers in the bullpen with e ras below two

675
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and a half. Last time I checked, it never happened before,

676
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and so it's obviously not going to happen again this season,

677
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>which is why it is in my what I would

678
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 2>like to want to keep. But it was pretty amazing

679
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to kind of like watch those guys go out like

680
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 2>week in week out and ninety five percent of the

681
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>time shut everybody down. And yes, I will give some

682
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 2>credence to the fact that they faced mostly Ale centrals

683
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 2>that were not particularly good, but we're still really exciting

684
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.079
<v Speaker 2>to watch. But his score that so most of those

685
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:12.759
<v Speaker 2>games were one or two run games, was very entertaining

686
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 2>to watch.

687
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 4>And I would like, I mean, yeah, given given the

688
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 4>Raids have to play Cleveland at least four times a year,

689
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.720
<v Speaker 4>I'd rather they didn't. So I'm out on that one.

690
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, you're not going to get any arguments for me

691
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:25.720
<v Speaker 3>about relievers for us, so.

692
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, as we're going on to something else, we'll I'll

693
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>be talking about relievers where I think even Darius might

694
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 2>be struggling. But okay, Rob, something else. The second thing

695
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 2>that you would like to keep the.

696
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 4>London games, please. They were bloody marvelous. Obviously absolutely obviously

697
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 4>we're not getting them this year, but yeah, a lot, yeah,

698
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.720
<v Speaker 4>bloody marvelous. I had a little bit of a concern

699
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 4>that that perhaps this year was the year that you know,

700
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 4>everyone's sort of we've over the novelty. People aren't going

701
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 4>to commit to as much. But you know what, I've

702
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:04.799
<v Speaker 4>probably had more fun this year than the previous years.

703
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, fantastic, long way to continue. Let's get them

704
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 4>back because you know, I want to see the Rays

705
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 4>play the Marlins because there's not many these coast teams

706
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 4>left to come over. No, I'm sure they'll find someone better.

707
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 4>But yes, absolutely, bring it back. We won it, we

708
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 4>drank it in, We had fantastic time, you know, somewhere

709
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 4>in between post traumatic stress and having the best time

710
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 4>of your life due to levels of drinking. But yeah, brilliant,

711
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 4>bring it back. Let's have more put it in my

712
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 4>vain straight in.

713
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, obviously we as far as we are aware, there

714
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>is still we'll still the twenty twenty six game will

715
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>go ahead. No details yet on who will be playing there.

716
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>See the season afterwards is twenty twenty seven. Sadly is

717
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>potentially I'm less likely that there will be a game

718
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:50.000
<v Speaker 2>because we'll probably just have the same thing we had

719
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:51.840
<v Speaker 2>with the last year. It might if there's any time

720
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.719
<v Speaker 2>in that being agreed to. We probably won't have a

721
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 2>special game the year the first year of it because

722
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>the lead time of organizing is too much two or

723
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>three months in. But yeah, it's great fun. I don't

724
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>think any of you can see otherwise, Darius, I think

725
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you were to have more of what four am kebab

726
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 2>see up and ready for BP at ten am the

727
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 2>next day.

728
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think I had any kebabs. There was

729
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.079
<v Speaker 3>a McDonald's trip because I think it was literally the

730
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 3>only place that was open.

731
00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:18.480
<v Speaker 4>You've just forgotten them because you were mullered.

732
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>And Brown that were having the kebabs. Then was that

733
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 2>the previous year?

734
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 3>That was Andy? The previous year there's you know, vegan

735
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 3>kebab less less convenient. Yeah, that was the previous year

736
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:36.119
<v Speaker 3>that and I can't release that photo that's classified. There

737
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>is there is photographic evidence for a m kebab from

738
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 3>Andy Brown and Tom Bringle.

739
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 4>I would say I wouldn't I wouldn't begrudge the Germans,

740
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 4>or the Italians or the Czechs getting getting a game

741
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 4>not instead, but as well as us in the next CBA,

742
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:54.480
<v Speaker 4>because I really fancy a Batlet's road trip. And you know,

743
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.079
<v Speaker 4>anyone who listens is welcome to come along as we'll

744
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 4>have an absolutely amazing time in you know, the back

745
00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:02.320
<v Speaker 4>end of some weird place in Germany or you know,

746
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 4>essentially Prague. So yeah, let's do it. Let's you know,

747
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.199
<v Speaker 4>let's have the europe as well. There's more and more people.

748
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.079
<v Speaker 4>Let's bring it in. I'm looking forward to it now.

749
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 2>That would be amazing, Darius, what's the final thing that

750
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.519
<v Speaker 2>we are going to keep from twenty twenty four?

751
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I put down stolen base Mania, and I'm not sure

752
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 3>whether it will continue to this level or not. I think,

753
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, we'll still be high because the rules have changed.

754
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 3>But will we get you know, Ellie Dela Cruze's insane pace.

755
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 3>He obviously tailed off towards the end of the season.

756
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:34.599
<v Speaker 3>Will Otani go wild now that it's back to pitching.

757
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 3>I kind of doubt it. I just want some guys

758
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.079
<v Speaker 3>to just really go for it, you know, like take

759
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.400
<v Speaker 3>advantage of these rules. If Anie can try and get

760
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.119
<v Speaker 3>to one hundred, if somebody else we've seen that. If

761
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 3>you want to go and you have that intend to

762
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:48.800
<v Speaker 3>see a lot of bases. You don't even need to

763
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 3>be the fastest guy in the league. You can do

764
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 3>it with good instincts and you know, picking the right moments.

765
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 3>So I just kind of want people to keep pushing

766
00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 3>the envelope. I think it's better for the game to

767
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 3>have more action on the base paths and whether they

768
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.599
<v Speaker 3>successful or not. So I would like to keep going

769
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 3>the way it has been going. I'd like individual players

770
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 3>to keep in those boundaries of what we might expect

771
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 3>in terms of records.

772
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel that we need to find that player

773
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>who's on an inconsequential team like Ellie to just go

774
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 2>for it and kind.

775
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Of be like the white sock who's going to get

776
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 3>six hundred and fifty Plight appearances and have absolutely no

777
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 3>reason to do anything other than trying to steal a

778
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 3>hundred bases.

779
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just like you knew how could that be.

780
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>But I was also thinking, like then I was like,

781
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 2>oh wait, CGA Brams. But then also he just did

782
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>not really steal at a good rate last year, so

783
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:39.559
<v Speaker 2>just stopped. Yeah, he just kind of like we got

784
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 2>caught quite a lot. So you were just kind of like,

785
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe do not continue, CJ because even the national may

786
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>have worked out that I think it was close to

787
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>like eighty percent, which in the current climate is be poor.

788
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:55.039
<v Speaker 2>So yes, no, that is awesome. Okay, let's now move

789
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>on to what we believe is going to happen. So

790
00:37:58.280 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna talk about a couple of things that we

791
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:03.199
<v Speaker 2>believe will continue. These are not our wants anymore. These

792
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 2>are things that we just believe. And then we'll have

793
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 2>things that we new, things that we believe are going

794
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.280
<v Speaker 2>to happen. So I'll start off both of my continues

795
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 2>are kind of pessimistic. But the White Sex are going

796
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:17.679
<v Speaker 2>to be bad. The White Sox are going to be

797
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 2>the worst team in baseball. Also, the White Sox don't

798
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 2>really look like they're going to get better because one

799
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>of the key ways of getting better is getting a

800
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 2>good draft pick, and they are a revenue sharing paying team,

801
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 2>not providing or not taking, and they can't basically get

802
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a spot in the draft lottery a couple of years

803
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 2>basically in a row. So even though basically they were

804
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 2>the worst team in baseball last year, they're going to

805
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>draft tenth in the next season, so they don't even

806
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 2>get any of that benefit anymore. And I think to

807
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the things Rob was saying in his last

808
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 2>point about there's no reason for teams to go for

809
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the bust really anymore. The draft lottery has done some

810
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>things to kind of get rid of that. But this

811
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>expected or some of the projected White Sox lineups I've seen,

812
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 2>especially on the pitching side, are ugly. Like I think

813
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 2>they potentially have one player on their pitching lineup that

814
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>has more service time than the rest on the pitching lineup.

815
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 2>So they have Martin Perez, who I think has about

816
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.440
<v Speaker 2>twelve years, and then there's only about three or four

817
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.800
<v Speaker 2>other people who have more. So I don't know, Darius

818
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:25.840
<v Speaker 2>if if you've gone into the weeds yet with the

819
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.840
<v Speaker 2>baseball prospective annual on the White Sox, But this doesn't

820
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:30.239
<v Speaker 2>look good.

821
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:33.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not a great team. You know, there's the odd

822
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:37.760
<v Speaker 3>little bit they still have Louise Rowett top he's to

823
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 3>forget with how bad they were, but he does still exist.

824
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 3>He's still on the team. We'll see how long for.

825
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.599
<v Speaker 3>And they do have some good prospects. You know that

826
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.639
<v Speaker 3>they arguably have the two best left handed pitching prospects

827
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 3>in the miners in Noah shulzten Haggin Smith. So it's

828
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not completely bare in the cupboard, but

829
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.039
<v Speaker 3>there's not a lot to look forward to here. And

830
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 3>who is going to try and sell one hundred bases,

831
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 3>is it, Mike Tappenman, I don't think so. At least

832
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 3>he gets once a bit, I suppose, But yeah, it's

833
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a season of hopefully, let's throw

834
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>some things at the war and see what sticks, because

835
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 3>last year it was let's try Robert Grossman in the

836
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 3>outfield for six weeks for reasons that best known to

837
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:21.239
<v Speaker 3>the White Socks.

838
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess. Yeah, So you had an opportunity to do

839
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:26.639
<v Speaker 2>to do maybe what Boston to what Oakland did, which

840
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:29.280
<v Speaker 2>was just throw out all of your your young players

841
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 2>and which ones do well. And I think they've kind

842
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:34.880
<v Speaker 2>of done well because of that, but throwing out multiple

843
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 2>veterans who aren't good just felt like the India decision

844
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and they're dealing with the consequences in twenty twenty five.

845
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.679
<v Speaker 2>All right, Rob, give us something that you think will

846
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.079
<v Speaker 2>continue on from twenty twenty four.

847
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:48.480
<v Speaker 4>I was going to say pictures of Andrew Vaughan looking

848
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 4>sad and exhausted, But sure enough of those last year

849
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.360
<v Speaker 4>A postseason adverts are going to get more prominent, Like

850
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 4>do not for a moment think that these things are

851
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.239
<v Speaker 4>going to stay in the post seeds, those horror roble

852
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 4>helmet patches. I'm sure somebody liked them. I don't think

853
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 4>many people did. All they're doing right now is they

854
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 4>are getting us used to them in the postseason, and

855
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 4>it will not be long until we start seeing them

856
00:41:11.400 --> 00:41:15.480
<v Speaker 4>on regular jerseys. Like long is is you know, fine,

857
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 4>maybe five years, maybe ten years, who knows, but it

858
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 4>is absolutely coming. We will end up with football styles

859
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 4>sponsors on shirts, you know, and then then the team

860
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 4>naming rights will come as well. So it's going to continue.

861
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.079
<v Speaker 4>Those big, ugly helmet adverts. Be probably going to find

862
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 4>there's a sleeve patch or something else. You know, we

863
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 4>got the Betfread Tigers before we know it, the Funky

864
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Pigeon Yankees. You know, we could go on like the

865
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 4>gazprom Braids, du X Dodgers. You know, I've got loads

866
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 4>of these preparation h.

867
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Anymore, the Dodgers.

868
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 2>To Dodge.

869
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, you want to have a word with the missus

870
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 3>about that before before you make any decisions.

871
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Rough.

872
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so yeah, that's that's coming. Yeah, I don't particularly

873
00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 4>want it, but I think yes we're I mean, not

874
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.920
<v Speaker 4>not the Durik dodging. That's that's a different story for elsewhere.

875
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 4>But yes, the the the drive rope padres are a

876
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 4>horrible thing coming in at you.

877
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:19.119
<v Speaker 2>So honestly, do you remember the name of the company

878
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that had the helmet sponsor?

879
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

880
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>It was so how much of an impact it has?

881
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Strauss, wasn't it? Remember?

882
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, because I thought it was Johann But it

883
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 4>was nothing to do with that.

884
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and obviously that had a lot of impact

885
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.519
<v Speaker 2>on you, Rob. The only thing I think that's had

886
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I like the ones that I've remembered from the it

887
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 2>was like the Capital One World Series or wasn't the

888
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>World Series or maybe it was the Divisional Series. I

889
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.920
<v Speaker 2>remember we had the one that was obviously the one

890
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 2>that we all remember is you got to build them?

891
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely got to build them.

892
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 3>That was very effective advertising. I mean, although I haven't

893
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:02.519
<v Speaker 3>more related than they, but I've gone into building submarines,

894
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:04.840
<v Speaker 3>but I've probably told a lot more people to build

895
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 3>them than That got me to.

896
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Go to billsubmarines dot com, which I tell you that

897
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>a significant number of advertising has never made men even

898
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 2>go to a website. That got me on to a

899
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.239
<v Speaker 2>website before I realized what it actually was.

900
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought it was a joke. You know, I

901
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 3>didn't think it was going to be building submarines, so

902
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I had to go and find out what it was,

903
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:24.599
<v Speaker 3>because I assumed it was just going to be some

904
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>obscure reference to something else.

905
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 2>And on that note, Darius, what else is going to

906
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 2>continue from twenty twenty four?

907
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, my first one is Rob Manfred announcing stupid rule

908
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 3>ideas to test them out to the market, because this

909
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 3>seems to just be an annual occurrence. Now whatever it

910
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.760
<v Speaker 3>is pictures having to go six in the Golden at

911
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 3>bat or whatever the hell he's calling it now, well,

912
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 3>undoubtedly get some more of these where some idea that

913
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't particularly believe in. He just wants to do

914
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.280
<v Speaker 3>a bit of market testing, get thrown out there and

915
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.480
<v Speaker 3>get flung around. You know, all the talking heads will

916
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 3>go at it. Everybody will say what it's for a

917
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks, and then they we'll come out and say, well,

918
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 3>we didn't want to do that anyway, that was a

919
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.320
<v Speaker 3>terrible idea. I don't believe in it. So I'm looking

920
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.079
<v Speaker 3>forward to the next one. Maybe we can this is

921
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.280
<v Speaker 3>this for as like a rob topic, you know, top

922
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 3>ten stupid Rob Manfred suggestions that we're going to get

923
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.440
<v Speaker 3>this season. I think we could probably run with this

924
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:17.719
<v Speaker 3>at some point, but I'd rather not hear them from

925
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 3>Manfred himself.

926
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you not think he's going to have too many

927
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 2>other issues to deal with?

928
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Do you mean like the not Sacramento Athletics.

929
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And not to go into what I think somebody

930
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 2>else's comment points is for later on, we'll move swiftly onwards.

931
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you my other thing that I think is

932
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 2>going to continue from into twenty twenty four. I'm going

933
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:40.840
<v Speaker 2>to tell you the Baltimore Orioles will not spend money.

934
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 2>They're going to become the next Rays. They're not going

935
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.320
<v Speaker 2>to be like Houston. They're not going to be a

936
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.000
<v Speaker 2>team that gets in position and then spends the money

937
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 2>to get them the free agent. They're going to try

938
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 2>and trade away they're good prospects when they're out of

939
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>cost control, or trade when they have too many prospects

940
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.199
<v Speaker 2>to get in some better players. They've basically taken a

941
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 2>load of the front office from the Rays, and the

942
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 2>new owner has said, oh, yes, I'll spend some money,

943
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 2>but then has also come out this week and being

944
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:11.840
<v Speaker 2>like salary cap, Yes, please must must have a salary cap.

945
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sorry Boston fans, Boston fans, Baltimore fans, but yeah,

946
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.079
<v Speaker 2>your your team is. I don't think you're going to

947
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 2>win because your own I don't think you're gonna spend

948
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 2>money on that is.

949
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just don't really get it. Like I'm

950
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 3>sure Michael Aas has got some lovely spreadsheet somewhere showing

951
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:33.159
<v Speaker 3>how great a job's done.

952
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's just you know, just listen and as

953
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.800
<v Speaker 2>a as a pre pre pre insight into a podcast

954
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>that you'll be coming after this one. John and I

955
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:46.079
<v Speaker 2>had a conversation with Zack Slott, who was the assistant

956
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 2>GM at the Red Sox and was acting at the Mets,

957
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:51.400
<v Speaker 2>and he pretty much said that everybody has models, but

958
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 2>you basically have to go over those models when buying

959
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 2>free agents to actually sign players, because if you stick

960
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>to your model, you will always basically buy because somebody

961
00:45:59.000 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 2>will out you.

962
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 4>It's not even the big splashes, is it. It's it's

963
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 4>that they're not doing the middle bits, like they could

964
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 4>have thrown a little bit of money at a few

965
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 4>guys and they haven't done that. That's that's where it's

966
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Charlie Morton, Yeah, woa, there we go, I just drafted him.

967
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Actually, you hypocrite.

968
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I hope your fie ground to me yet. Roll. No,

969
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:26.320
<v Speaker 2>let's not talk about our fantasy drafts while we are podcasting, Rob.

970
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 2>What is another thing from twenty twenty four that you

971
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>believe is going to continue into twenty twenty five.

972
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:36.119
<v Speaker 4>It's doom and gloom. The A's and the Rays stadium

973
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.440
<v Speaker 4>issues are only going to get worse. They're going to

974
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.559
<v Speaker 4>continue down the awful sort of it's not even like

975
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.559
<v Speaker 4>a graph anymore. It's like someone falling downstairs holding something

976
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 4>really expensive. It's that bad. The A's are gonna gonna

977
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 4>not end up where they should be through sharing competence,

978
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 4>and the Rays because they seemingly have this self destruct

979
00:46:57.599 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 4>the late is there is they actually now they've they've

980
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Speaker 4>told told the guys in in Tapa not not to

981
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 4>fix the stadium, then actually do fix the stadium. But

982
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 4>we're not sure actually if we actually even want to

983
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 4>continue with the new stadium that you're gonna fund. So

984
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 4>it's just an absolute cluster f It's awful and it's

985
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.800
<v Speaker 4>only gonna get worse that the next the next step

986
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 4>is gonna be you know, the Yankees good will runs

987
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 4>out and then along we'll have to play at the

988
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 4>stadium for twenty twenty six. But oh, they haven't got

989
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 4>a roof, you know, that's the next thing. God only

990
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 4>knows what's gonna happen with the Aes, Like are they

991
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 4>ever gonna get funding? Are these lawsuits from teachers gonna

992
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 4>step in a way, Like are they gonna move to

993
00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Las Vegas? Or do we just have a team in

994
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:38.000
<v Speaker 4>a minor league park in Sacramento for the foreseeable. It's

995
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 4>not gonna get better in this next year. I think

996
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:42.719
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna see more, more of the same things, getting

997
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.440
<v Speaker 4>worse on worse, And it's bad for these bat it's

998
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 4>bad for the ideas of expansion, which I think we'd

999
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 4>all like to see. It's just gonna get worse this now.

1000
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe twenty six twenty seven is where we'll start

1001
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 4>seeing some shoots again. But do not be fooled by

1002
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:57.119
<v Speaker 4>the sound bites you hear this year. It is all

1003
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:57.840
<v Speaker 4>getting worse for it.

1004
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:01.639
<v Speaker 2>It's I don't disagree. I think the thing that I've

1005
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 2>said for a couple of years now is that I

1006
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.159
<v Speaker 2>don't think they'll A's whatever make and I think that

1007
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:10.320
<v Speaker 2>they will get the Washington National treatment or sorry, the

1008
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.519
<v Speaker 2>Montreal expost treatment, as that the club will be taken

1009
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:15.400
<v Speaker 2>away from them because they can't work out how to

1010
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 2>do anything, and some new owners will be put in

1011
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 2>place and they may eventually get to Las Vegas with them,

1012
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.320
<v Speaker 2>but they could go with that, Darius. One other thing

1013
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:26.519
<v Speaker 2>are we going to continue to see in twenty twenty

1014
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>four and twenty twenty four.

1015
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:30.880
<v Speaker 3>I alluded to this earlier, but I think we're going

1016
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.280
<v Speaker 3>to see more handwringing about competitive balance because obviously the

1017
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.679
<v Speaker 3>Dodgers have done this to us with Sasaki and being

1018
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:41.320
<v Speaker 3>the latest in this long line of the Dodgers signing

1019
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.960
<v Speaker 3>players because nobody else can signed players, everybody goes to

1020
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers. It really doesn't matter. People like we had

1021
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 3>this last year and the Dodgers flight, you know, limped

1022
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 3>into the postseason with this cobbled together rotation and like

1023
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 3>ended up winning series on Freddie Freeman's hobble Dan call,

1024
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's not a thing in baseball, like you

1025
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 3>don't get juggernauts the way you do with other sports

1026
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 3>that are just inevitably going to win, even if they

1027
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 3>just do win one hundred and fifteen games, in the

1028
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.599
<v Speaker 3>regular season. They'll still get bounced in the first round

1029
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 3>of the playoffs. That's just what baseball is like. So

1030
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think we need to worry about this. I

1031
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.519
<v Speaker 3>think people can also complain when we don't have any

1032
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 3>super teams. It's nice to have a villain. I'm pretty

1033
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 3>excited to see this collection of talent assembled. Regrettably, half

1034
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.239
<v Speaker 3>of them will be injured by mid season and they'll

1035
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 3>be like still relying on Clayton kersh Or to come

1036
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 3>back and pitch spinning on them. So I just do

1037
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 3>not think it's worth worrying about. And hey, if it

1038
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I just do one one hundred and twenty games, that's

1039
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.519
<v Speaker 3>also kind of fun, Like it would be exciting to

1040
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 3>see the record get in and we'd still have some

1041
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:41.599
<v Speaker 3>competitive playoffs. So just do not worry about it. It

1042
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:42.760
<v Speaker 3>doesn't Yeah, I.

1043
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Think we talked a fair bit about that in the

1044
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:48.079
<v Speaker 2>previous pod that I think it's a big hooha over nothink,

1045
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:50.880
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, if there's anything more to worry about, then okay,

1046
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 2>new things. Let's talk about some brand spanking new things

1047
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to finish this podcast off, things that we think are

1048
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 2>going to happen in twenty twenty five that did not

1049
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.000
<v Speaker 2>happen in the past. Talking about the Dodgers, I think

1050
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 2>more people are going to try and copy them. I

1051
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:05.519
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people are going to try and

1052
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 2>have a come into this season with a six man rotation,

1053
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 2>which is also just code for we're gonna have too

1054
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.599
<v Speaker 2>many arms ready to be available for the season, but

1055
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 2>we expect some, if not quite a few of them

1056
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:20.719
<v Speaker 2>be injured by the time of the season actually starts

1057
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 2>or during this I think this is the new market

1058
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.719
<v Speaker 2>inefficiency in baseball is that actually, you should be your

1059
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:33.119
<v Speaker 2>il spots as efficiently as possible because guess what, there's

1060
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:36.079
<v Speaker 2>no max on your IL spots during the season. You

1061
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:37.800
<v Speaker 2>don't have to worry about your forty man or you're

1062
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.199
<v Speaker 2>taking your players off. You can have as many injured

1063
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:45.199
<v Speaker 2>players as you like, So why bother basically getting a

1064
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.039
<v Speaker 2>player that might give you one hundred and eighty innings

1065
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:49.079
<v Speaker 2>of four and a half innings baseball when you can

1066
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>get two guys that will give you ninety innings of

1067
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.840
<v Speaker 2>two and a half era baseball. That's I think that's

1068
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 2>where baseball is going. Whether that's a good or a

1069
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 2>bad thing, most likely it's probably not a good thing.

1070
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.400
<v Speaker 2>But that's been I think that's what the Dodgers have

1071
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>shown that they can't the successes from to what I

1072
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.480
<v Speaker 2>think the Rays have shown in a few years as well.

1073
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 2>But actually, just having tons of arms is the way

1074
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 2>that you actually get a goods and a pitching out there.

1075
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 2>And I I've already seen three or four teams that

1076
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:19.280
<v Speaker 2>have mentioned a six man rotation for twenty twenty five. Darius,

1077
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.440
<v Speaker 2>is this on your radar as well?

1078
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll see sort of the extent to which teams

1079
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 3>can manage it. I think the main obstacle might ultimately

1080
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 3>end up being how many live arms are left that

1081
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 3>teams actually think, yeah, we've got six of these guys

1082
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 3>we want to start. That might be the obstacle for

1083
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.199
<v Speaker 3>a lot of teams because you look down the depth

1084
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 3>chat and you go, I don't think they've got five

1085
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 3>guys I want to start, So that would be the problem.

1086
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're telling me the Diamondbacks are not going to

1087
00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 2>run a six man rotation with Jordan Montgomery Jordan Montgomery

1088
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 2>as their sixth man, not.

1089
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Unless Jordan Montgomery's had a great Officely, Yeah, that doesn't

1090
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 3>seem that likely. I guess you can you know, sort

1091
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:59.360
<v Speaker 3>of tigers it up and try and piece things together

1092
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.280
<v Speaker 3>with openers and ballpen arms and all sorts, But I

1093
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 3>think that's not really sustainable over a long term. You

1094
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:06.480
<v Speaker 3>need a decent amount of luck to have that come

1095
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.840
<v Speaker 3>together as well. So I wouldn't be surprised if we

1096
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.960
<v Speaker 3>see more teams trying it this year, and I think

1097
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 3>probably for most of them, they'll find that they don't

1098
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 3>actually have the personnel to make it happen.

1099
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 4>I think the six man rotation is purely to keep

1100
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:23.280
<v Speaker 4>the players happy pr internal pr If you've got five

1101
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 4>guys on your roster already who are like, Wow, these

1102
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 4>guys are a top level starters, and you've got another

1103
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.320
<v Speaker 4>guy you want to pick up, you're not going to

1104
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.920
<v Speaker 4>tell him, well, yeah, you're gonna be you big money.

1105
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 4>A're gonna be fighting the other five guys. No, we're

1106
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.039
<v Speaker 4>gonna run a six man rotation. Nobody's going to run

1107
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:39.079
<v Speaker 4>a six man rotation for more than a few weeks.

1108
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.480
<v Speaker 4>It's when the first arm goes, then we're back to fight.

1109
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:45.280
<v Speaker 4>And I think you'll find by come May everyone's back

1110
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.599
<v Speaker 4>to a five man or fewer rotation. At the six

1111
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 4>man things is not a genuine just building.

1112
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 2>It, building him spraying management. Okay, Rob, what do you

1113
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.159
<v Speaker 2>think will be new in twenty twenty five?

1114
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:58.440
<v Speaker 4>I think new in twenty twenty five will be there'll

1115
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.119
<v Speaker 4>be a one and done confusion about the shift new

1116
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 4>shift and or base running rules. So they've made some

1117
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:05.920
<v Speaker 4>very minor tweets to the rules, and I think there's

1118
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:09.159
<v Speaker 4>going to be just to clarify then. So the rule

1119
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:11.320
<v Speaker 4>now is if anyone violates the shift rule where you've

1120
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.039
<v Speaker 4>got to have two guys either side of second base

1121
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 4>and they're not had to be on the outfield dirt

1122
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 4>outfields on the infield dirt all that. Whereas it was

1123
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 4>an automatic ball I believe for violating that before, now

1124
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be an awarded base much like a

1125
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.679
<v Speaker 4>balk really or you know, catches interference where everyone's just

1126
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.400
<v Speaker 4>going to move up one. So that one I do

1127
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:35.880
<v Speaker 4>think it's too bad where we're going to get more confusion.

1128
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.519
<v Speaker 4>I think is this new base running rule which I

1129
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:41.320
<v Speaker 4>had to read a couple of times to fully understand,

1130
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:42.719
<v Speaker 4>and now if I'm going to try and relay it,

1131
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 4>it's not gonna make any sense. But essentially people were

1132
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 4>told to overrun second base rather than sliding into second base,

1133
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 4>so if they got there, the third basement could get

1134
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:56.480
<v Speaker 4>in home whilst and then the second basement is called

1135
00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:59.039
<v Speaker 4>out on the tag rather than being called out at

1136
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:01.960
<v Speaker 4>second base. And so now they've changed it that you

1137
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.920
<v Speaker 4>can't do that anymore, so that your third basement can't

1138
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.239
<v Speaker 4>score on deliberately overrunning the second base. This is going

1139
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 4>to cause at some point a great big fight that

1140
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:15.079
<v Speaker 4>no one quite understands what they're fighting about. One and done.

1141
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.239
<v Speaker 4>It will happen, and then we'll all be online with

1142
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:18.760
<v Speaker 4>it again. But I think at most people at this

1143
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:21.480
<v Speaker 4>point won't even be aware of this rule having changed.

1144
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.320
<v Speaker 4>And I think a team is going to fall afoul

1145
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:25.880
<v Speaker 4>of it. There'll be a big scandal and that be that.

1146
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.000
<v Speaker 4>But we're going to have some kind of discourse over

1147
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.719
<v Speaker 4>this very minor rule which only affects very few teams,

1148
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:36.079
<v Speaker 4>notably the Yankees who found this inefficiency and were deliberately

1149
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:39.320
<v Speaker 4>overrunning second when there's two outs already. I didn't think

1150
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:41.760
<v Speaker 4>I explained that rule very well. I'm not one hundred

1151
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.400
<v Speaker 4>percent sure I fully understand it. I want no.

1152
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:49.840
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting one because it requires umpires to interpret behavior,

1153
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:53.000
<v Speaker 2>which I think is something that you should never basically have.

1154
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a wrong change, and I do believe

1155
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.079
<v Speaker 2>you are right that there will be some confusion at

1156
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 2>some point, be it from a coach or a manager,

1157
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 2>or probably more from someone commentating on a game and

1158
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:09.960
<v Speaker 2>not understanding why something has happened, which is usually the

1159
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.599
<v Speaker 2>funnier side to the game, where it's like rule change,

1160
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:15.760
<v Speaker 2>we all have no idea what is going on there

1161
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 2>is what's going to be new.

1162
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:21.320
<v Speaker 3>I think we might actually get an official announcement of

1163
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.360
<v Speaker 3>the challenge system, whether that's you know that we'll be

1164
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 3>using it next year. For those who don't know, they

1165
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:30.480
<v Speaker 3>have been trying sort of the robot umpire but not

1166
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:33.920
<v Speaker 3>full robot umpire in the miners, so the machine calls

1167
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:37.039
<v Speaker 3>the balls and strikes, but players are allowed to use

1168
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.400
<v Speaker 3>it to challenge the umpire school, rather than having it

1169
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:43.440
<v Speaker 3>be the sort of overriding arbiter of all the balls

1170
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 3>and strikes. This seems to be the better way to

1171
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:49.719
<v Speaker 3>operate it, based on all the feedback in the testing

1172
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 3>they've done so far, so I think after another season

1173
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:55.840
<v Speaker 3>of doing that in the miners, we might be approaching

1174
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:57.280
<v Speaker 3>a yeah, we're going to we're going to do this

1175
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 3>in the Major's announcement, and I'm all for I think

1176
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.800
<v Speaker 3>this would be a good fusion of the technology and

1177
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:06.840
<v Speaker 3>the existing system, and probably one announcement that Manfred will

1178
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.159
<v Speaker 3>make that I won't get upset about.

1179
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a highly unlikely scenario, a Manfred announcement that

1180
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:16.519
<v Speaker 2>doesn't send shivers down your spines. It's all the pitch

1181
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.320
<v Speaker 2>clock stuff has been good, So yeah, I still kind of.

1182
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:22.440
<v Speaker 4>We said earlier the draft lottery worked as well, so

1183
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:23.920
<v Speaker 4>you have some wins.

1184
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just copying your peers. That one dog gonna give

1185
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:30.159
<v Speaker 2>him any credit for that one, and the other one

1186
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.719
<v Speaker 2>is just enforcing a law that existed in the rule

1187
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:36.440
<v Speaker 2>book anyway that you just chose not to enforce. So now,

1188
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.079
<v Speaker 2>no no credit, no credit for either of those two

1189
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:42.480
<v Speaker 2>as far as I'm for Rob, But yeah, I will

1190
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:44.360
<v Speaker 2>generally be fully on board with this. I think there

1191
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>is an entertainment perspective to all of this as well.

1192
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Of many of us here have watched tennis or cricket

1193
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.199
<v Speaker 2>or whatever to have but I think tennis is very

1194
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 2>good with the moment of knowing whether something was ball

1195
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:00.760
<v Speaker 2>or a strike, So I think this could add to

1196
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the entertainment value of the game probably more on television

1197
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:06.360
<v Speaker 2>than in the stadium, unless they kind of get it

1198
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:07.920
<v Speaker 2>up on the big screen as well at the same

1199
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:09.800
<v Speaker 2>time so everybody else can see what was what is

1200
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:11.480
<v Speaker 2>going on. But yeah, I think it could have a

1201
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.159
<v Speaker 2>very good entertaining perspective and just it just if we

1202
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.079
<v Speaker 2>get rid of like the worst, like five of call,

1203
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:21.480
<v Speaker 2>everything's just better. Although, hey, Daris, you're taking away the

1204
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the Kyle Schwarber moment. If you kind of if you

1205
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:26.280
<v Speaker 2>can challenge it, he's not going to get ejected. He's

1206
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:27.960
<v Speaker 2>going to be like, well, maybe he's going to get

1207
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.519
<v Speaker 2>ejected because he was like, I told you so, and

1208
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 2>then he'll get ejected. But being like.

1209
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Challenging and the robot agrees with the human umpire and

1210
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:40.719
<v Speaker 3>then he's like, well you're both wrong, and he loses

1211
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:43.920
<v Speaker 3>it even more, just starts beating the machine the robot.

1212
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 2>There were reports that came out of like when this

1213
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:50.880
<v Speaker 2>was first tested, like in Single A, they had ones

1214
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.360
<v Speaker 2>where the players didn't know that it would be tested

1215
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:56.360
<v Speaker 2>and they were arguing balls and strikes to the umpires

1216
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.199
<v Speaker 2>when they were they were actually being done by the robot.

1217
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:03.719
<v Speaker 2>There are some uppliers in the cingale that have basically

1218
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:07.320
<v Speaker 2>been ripped into by players, and it was like, not

1219
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.760
<v Speaker 2>my decision, bud, Okay. So the last thing that I'm

1220
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 2>going to boldly predict will happen in twenty twenty five

1221
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:18.679
<v Speaker 2>is a bouncy you ball. Like I feel that we

1222
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 2>do not get consistency year on year. I don't know

1223
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:24.679
<v Speaker 2>if this is just because we have more analytics available

1224
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 2>to us now than we ever did before. I very

1225
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 2>much imagine that the ability to making a more standardized

1226
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:33.920
<v Speaker 2>ball is better now than it ever has been in

1227
00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:36.559
<v Speaker 2>the history of baseball. But we seem to go through

1228
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.920
<v Speaker 2>variations year on year based on the batches and based

1229
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:43.280
<v Speaker 2>on what seemed created. So we got a little bit

1230
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:45.679
<v Speaker 2>of a maybe not a dead and ball last year,

1231
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:47.440
<v Speaker 2>but it didn't seem to be coming off the back

1232
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 2>quite as much as in some of the previous I

1233
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:54.719
<v Speaker 2>imagine someone has course corrected in the rulings laboratories wherever

1234
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 2>they may be. I think they're in like in Puerto Rico.

1235
00:58:56.920 --> 00:59:00.360
<v Speaker 2>And then we will have a bouncier ball in twenty

1236
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 2>twenty five. So we'll hail your home run king this year.

1237
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:06.559
<v Speaker 3>I think one hundred hundred that's what we want.

1238
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>One hundred hundred is like, if you're talking about that,

1239
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.199
<v Speaker 2>you've changed the Like I think I saw an interview

1240
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.039
<v Speaker 2>with Kenny Lofton saying that, like you'd get a hundred

1241
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.599
<v Speaker 2>solent bases in this current thing, and I'm like, no,

1242
00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:18.639
<v Speaker 2>because your team just wouldn't let you do it, Like

1243
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 2>and if you started to steal when they said no

1244
00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 2>and you were getting caught, well you get dropped. Like

1245
00:59:26.159 --> 00:59:30.039
<v Speaker 2>the one hundred hundred is, let's get like sixty sixty

1246
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:36.960
<v Speaker 2>first Darius hundred double, the double A Toney Ellie.

1247
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<v Speaker 3>Can do sixty sixty. It's fine with your You two Sporus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, flying find out that park Yeah, and Stacast home

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00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 2>run Paul Park factor that stadium does. Okay, Rob, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the last thing you think is going to be

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00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 2>new to twenty twenty five.

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00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:55.840
<v Speaker 4>White Sox Milkshot Milkshake arms Race. The White Sox Milkshake

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00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.400
<v Speaker 4>was probably the most famous and successful thing that happened

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00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:01.159
<v Speaker 4>in the South Side last year, and they had their great, big,

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<v Speaker 4>fancy milkshake. And I reckon that our hipster friendly Bryce

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01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:13.159
<v Speaker 4>Harper doing TikTok's making coffee friendly crowd are gonna follow along.

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<v Speaker 4>There's gonna be there's gonna be some sort of ridiculously

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01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:21.000
<v Speaker 4>overly priced, overly made version of a normal food stuff

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<v Speaker 4>in every park that is going to challenge the White

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01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.079
<v Speaker 4>Socks milkshake for supremacy as the peak, the peak thing

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<v Speaker 4>you can get in a ballpark. I think I think

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01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:30.679
<v Speaker 4>we got to weird stuff. We've been through weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been through cheap offers where you can you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I managed to spend twenty dollars on a two dollars

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<v Speaker 4>hot dog night once and regretted that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we've had the cheap We've had that. Now I think

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna go super super fancy, like really overspect stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. I think I think we've got that. Pass

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01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:50.360
<v Speaker 4>leaves some ideas that came up with. Maybe the Cardinals

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01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.119
<v Speaker 4>can have a mac and cheese made where there's an

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<v Speaker 4>in house cow milked by Wade Miley. It goes into

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01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.960
<v Speaker 4>making the cheese for you and it takes bloody ages

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<v Speaker 4>and costs you hundred quid to get this fancy mac

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01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.880
<v Speaker 4>and cheese. Or the Astros have a special orange juice

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<v Speaker 4>which is freshly squeezed against the bin lid. The old

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<v Speaker 4>classics are the best maybe do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they're no longer sponsored by Minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I know, yeah, and maybe the second the second

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<v Speaker 4>best version of everything. But yes, I think there's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>at arms race, and I think I think ridiculously hips

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<v Speaker 4>three over priced, you know, and it's gonna be like

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<v Speaker 4>a bowl of cereal that's got like one honey nut

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01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.440
<v Speaker 4>loop one, you know whatever. It's gonna be something strange

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<v Speaker 4>and weird. But there's going to be like Pinnckley over engineered.

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<v Speaker 4>Normal foods are going to become the new the new market.

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<v Speaker 4>Inefficiency in Bullpark food and beverage amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no comments.

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<v Speaker 3>My comment is that I'm very grateful that the words

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<v Speaker 3>he said after mac and cheese weren't milk shape. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>he's writing it down.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Darius finishes off for this podcast. What are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to see twenty twenty five that we did

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<v Speaker 2>not see?

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<v Speaker 3>I am going to say that for the first time

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<v Speaker 3>in well, if you don't count twenty twenty nine years,

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01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I believe the Houston Astros will not win the AL West.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for a new division winner. Others have come

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<v Speaker 3>and tried and failed, blown it up. Jim Croan doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what he's doing over there. They're you know, trading

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01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:19.320
<v Speaker 3>away Ryan Prestley, They're trading away Kyle Tucker. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all burning down. The empire is in pieces, and

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01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who it's going to be. I'm just

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01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 3>saying somebody else is the problem. That's the problem. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why this is a bold prediction.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't doubt that the Astros are going to fall off.

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<v Speaker 4>It's who's actually going to be competent enough to pick

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<v Speaker 4>up the pieces and overtake them is more the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Why Sir I did not mention the last week, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Texas Rangers. This year shall be the year when

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast is all in on the Rangers. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>flip flop like the best Donald Trump. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a year where the Rangers are bad and then the

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<v Speaker 2>Rangers are good, and then you won't know which one.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna say. No matter what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Jacob de Gron comeback Tour, it's all happening. Hey, maybe

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01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:09.880
<v Speaker 3>the Mariners will sign somebody. Okay, that's not going to happen.

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01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Maren is gonna win eighty five games with like the

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<v Speaker 3>best rotation in baseball and the worst offriends.

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<v Speaker 2>In baseball, Thank you, Darik.

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01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:21.000
<v Speaker 3>But eighty five games might be the Astros could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be the first one of the first teams to

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<v Speaker 2>win with a blue five hundred record.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this is this is what Jerry has been

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01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:33.320
<v Speaker 3>waiting for, just the Astros to be this mediocre, to

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<v Speaker 3>get anybody. Fifty four percent. That's all we need, baby percent.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to do it this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty four percent. And on that bombshell. Thank you both

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01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Darius and Rob for your glorious insights on what we

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<v Speaker 2>want to keep, what we want to be in, what

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<v Speaker 2>we want to see, and what we expect to see

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<v Speaker 2>more of in the twenty twenty five baseball It has

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<v Speaker 2>been a pleasure, as always, two chats with you, fine gentlemen.

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01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:03.039
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01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.239
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01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.079
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01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:10.440
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01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:12.800
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01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:16.119
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01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:22.880
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