1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,599 Speaker 1: What's going on? 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,120 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,480 show prep with all the links, become a patron, go 7 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:23,399 to vpekclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,359 Get every episode for free right to your smartphone or tablet, 9 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,640 And again, thank you so much for your support. The 10 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:34,079 head of NPR, Katherine Maher, along with the head of 11 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:42,799 PBS Paula Kerger, appeared at a congressional hearing yesterday. It 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,640 did not go very well for Ms mah Katherine Marr, who, 13 00:00:47,719 --> 00:00:51,479 by the way, used to be the head of Wikipedia, 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,960 and also I believe she is still a board member 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:06,000 for Signal. Yeah, just just a. 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,159 Speaker 3: Happy coincidence there. 17 00:01:09,799 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Before the newscast we were going over, we were listening 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,480 to some of the audio from Brandon Gill and his 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,920 questioning of Catherine Marr where he just basically reads her 20 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:27,400 own tweets back to her and asks her basically to 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,519 defend what she said. When you say, you know Trump 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:37,599 is a deranged racist, Yeah, deranged racist sociopath. 23 00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:41,879 Speaker 3: Do you believe that? And then you know she's like, well. 24 00:01:41,879 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: No, I was just I don't know what I was 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,359 referring to, but I was just reflecting on something. Those 26 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,840 are my thoughts I was as I was reflecting. Again, 27 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,239 that's not she's not doing any deep reflecting. 28 00:01:54,879 --> 00:01:54,959 Speaker 4: Like. 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: It's not like she had to take the day off 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,959 of work to reflect and then send out the tweet, 31 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:00,879 which is what she claimed to have done when she 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,400 read The Case for Reparations. She said she took a 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,319 day off to read the book, and then at the 34 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,599 hearing she said, oh, I didn't read that book. 35 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,719 Speaker 3: I don't recall ever reading that book. 36 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: And then she said the same thing with another book, 37 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,680 that she didn't remember reading another book. Yet she tweets 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,199 about having read the book and tweets that when she 39 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:26,639 said yes reparations, yes right now, and yes the North 40 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,479 has to pay them and whatever, she's like, Oh, I 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:34,000 didn't mean fiscal reparations, because there's some other understanding of 42 00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:37,800 this term. After you read the book The Case for Reparations. No, no, no, 43 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:44,280 she was simply reflecting, once again on her life of privilege. 44 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:50,080 So here's the rest of Brandon Gill's cross examination, if 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,639 you will, of Catherine Mark. 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 5: Few years ago, NPR educated America about quote the whole 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,960 community of gender queer, dinah or enthusiast. 48 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that that's inappropriate use of tax dollars? 49 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,159 Speaker 4: I was not an MPR at the times. 50 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 5: That's not the question, though. Do you think that that's 51 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,680 an appropriate use of our tax dollars? 52 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: I think our tax dollars that we use are to 53 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:13,840 be able to provide a wide range of I'll. 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: Take that as a yes, you do believe that that's appropriate. 55 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:19,439 Speaker 5: Your health advisor at NPR also stated in an interview 56 00:03:19,479 --> 00:03:23,919 that quote fear of fatness is more harmful than actual fat. 57 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:26,879 Would you like to explain how fear of fatness is 58 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,400 more harmful than actual fat? 59 00:03:28,439 --> 00:03:30,759 Speaker 1: That's directly that's an editorial NPR. 60 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 4: I am not familiar with the editorial, and I don't 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,759 believe that was published during my time here. 62 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 5: It's called diet culture is everywhere. Here's how to fight it. 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,159 Do you think that that's an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars? 64 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 4: I think any reporting on health is an appropriate use. 65 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:44,919 You spent dollars, yes. 66 00:03:44,759 --> 00:03:48,599 Speaker 5: And you think that editorializing that fat is not unhealthy 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,520 is appropriate. 68 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: I don't know that what that article is sart and 69 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:52,800 I'm not familiar with it. 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: With student said fake news. 71 00:03:55,199 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 5: Do you think that basic accommodations like doorways or seat 72 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,039 belt to represent quote. 73 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Late and fat phobia? 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:03,199 Speaker 4: I don't have an opinion. 75 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,439 Speaker 1: It's also from NPR. Do you think civility is racist? 76 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,919 Speaker 4: No, sir, No. 77 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 5: Your outlet ran an article entitled quote when civility is 78 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:14,039 used as a cudgel against people of color? 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: That was on All Things Considered. 80 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:20,639 Speaker 4: Would you like to explain, Well, I'm not on the 81 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,000 editorial side. Sorry, I'm not familiar with that story. 82 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 5: You talk about how NPR is news this is This 83 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:28,560 is editorialization, and I'll read it. For many people of 84 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,000 color in the United States, civility isn't so much social 85 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:35,519 lubricant as it is a vehicle for containing them, preventing 86 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,000 social mobility and preserving the status. 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: Quote this is garbage. 88 00:04:39,959 --> 00:04:43,399 Speaker 5: I'll spend all of my time doing everything I can do, 89 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:46,560 and sure you guys never get another dollar of taxpayer funding. 90 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:48,120 This is complete garbage. 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah right, See, so impoliteness is the way you fight oppression. 92 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,399 I guess that's the that's the gist of it. Look 93 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,800 all you have to do. Do you want go over 94 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:04,720 take a listen to some of the programming and you'll 95 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,399 hear it. All of their stories are filtered through the 96 00:05:07,439 --> 00:05:10,399 same prism, even the international stuff. 97 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:13,879 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, let's go to this. 98 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:16,959 Speaker 2: Report in some country you've never heard of, and you're 99 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,600 gonna hear a story told you the eyes of a 100 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,000 you know, of a a fourteen year old trans person, 101 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:25,600 Like it's about a civil war in some you know, 102 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:28,920 foreign country, and this is the filter that you're running 103 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:35,399 it through. So that's Brandon gil Jim Jordan then took 104 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:39,160 his turn and we get into some of the money 105 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,879 aspects of it. I'm gonna I'll save that SoundBite for 106 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:45,759 after the break so we can hear it in its 107 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:47,759 entirety because he goes back and forth with her and 108 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,279 goes through some of the money, and I'm gonna highlight 109 00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:52,959 this money because it's at the same time you were 110 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,160 being told here that it's a tiny little fraction of 111 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:58,319 the total funding pie. But if you get rid of 112 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:02,319 this tiny little fraction, it will critically injure the outlet. 113 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,399 Speaker 3: Right, well, which is it? Which is it? 114 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:08,319 Speaker 2: Is it critical funding or is it just a tenC 115 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:13,439 WEENC little piece or is every single dollar critical? Well, 116 00:06:13,439 --> 00:06:16,040 if you listen to their fund drives, they would say, yes, 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,519 every single dollar is critical. 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:25,759 Speaker 3: So you guys, just get off of the government funding. 119 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:28,879 Speaker 2: Just get just stop feeding from the trough. You're gonna 120 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:30,800 be so much happier. You can do it by the 121 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,839 way you can do it. You can get off of 122 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:36,519 the government dole and then you'll be able to do 123 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,319 more stuff. You'll be leaner, the organization will be more efficient, 124 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:45,000 right because you don't have that safety in any longer. 125 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: I'm just think I'm trying to encourage you. Look at 126 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:48,519 what happened. 127 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: Remember when when Reagan cut the funding forty years ago, 128 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,000 and everybody's like, oh, it's gonna kill NPR And it didn't. 129 00:06:56,199 --> 00:07:00,879 What happened, your donations went up. I started taking in 130 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,600 more money from the donors because now there wasn't Oh 131 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,600 it's okay the governmental fund it. I'm already paying for it. 132 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,199 So I'm not going to make a donation, like you 133 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,759 can do it. I have confidence in you. So here 134 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,480 is the New York Times with the preview before the 135 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:22,759 hearing that they were preparing for the showdown. Top executives 136 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:25,600 from the public media networks are bracing for a hearing 137 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:31,480 on Wednesday organized by Representative Marjorie Taylor Green, PBS is 138 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:36,120 practicing answers with lawyers, and PR executives are preparing to 139 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:40,560 monitor the fallout later on New York Times, piece by 140 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,879 Benjamin Mullen says, for more than half a century, Republicans 141 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:48,920 in Congress have sought to cut back funding for PBS 142 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,839 and NPR, but to no avail. But the threat has 143 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,920 perhaps never been greater. Congressional Republicans this year have introduced 144 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,680 bills that would eliminate funding for public media. Conservatives have 145 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,000 been especially critical of NPR and MS mah. 146 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,079 Speaker 3: Many have seized. There you go, everybody. 147 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: You didn't think that Republicans wouldn't pounce or seize on this, 148 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,240 did you. Of course they're seizing. That's what Republicans do. 149 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:19,639 So they have seized on an essay written a year 150 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,759 ago by Yuri Berliner, a former senior editor at NPR, 151 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:29,480 who took aim at perceived left wing bias at NPR. 152 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:36,159 Speaker 3: It's just a perception. The eighty seven. 153 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:41,039 Speaker 2: Staffers that work around or worked around Uri Berliner were 154 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,240 all Democrats and zero Republicans. 155 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: That's a problem. 156 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: That is a problem because as I have gone over 157 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,240 this many times, and you know relation to different stories. 158 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,480 When you go to work and you're in the media, 159 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:57,480 you go to work, you sit in in the morning 160 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:01,679 meetings and you kick around story ideas. And if all 161 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,679 you have are people on the left in that room 162 00:09:04,879 --> 00:09:09,039 kicking around the story ideas, you have blinded yourself to 163 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:15,039 stories that are being kicked around by the right. Right, 164 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,879 So you want to have more people in that room, 165 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,000 so you have people who have seen different stories that 166 00:09:22,039 --> 00:09:25,000 are moving on different outlets, or have been reported, or 167 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,080 spend their time doing different things. 168 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: Right. Ms. 169 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: Mahr forty one years old. She's only forty one. I 170 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,440 thought she was much older. But anyway, so you said 171 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,679 that she had met with members of Congress over the 172 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:39,039 last year to hear their concerns, and that the network 173 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,000 had put in place measures designed to reinforce our commitment 174 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,840 to journalism for all Americans. 175 00:09:46,279 --> 00:09:49,879 Speaker 3: As one who has heard the station in the last year, 176 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,600 it's not working, Ms. 177 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:52,919 Speaker 1: Mahr. 178 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: Whatever your measures were designed to do, it's not working. 179 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,080 It's still the same. 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Hurry? 204 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,879 Speaker 4: I believe he was there just over twenty five years. 205 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,279 Speaker 3: Twenty five years, Gerry Berliner? 206 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 6: Award winning journalists, did you win any awards? Are time 207 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:31,440 to Peabody Award? That's pretty important, isn't it? That is 208 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:35,000 a pretty distinguished journalists right certainly? And I wrote he 209 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:37,879 wrote a long story about what you do at NPR. 210 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,360 Is MPR biased? 211 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,639 Speaker 4: Congressman, I have never seen any instance of never of 212 00:11:44,039 --> 00:11:46,360 political bias determining editorial decisions. 213 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 6: Now well, miss here the crowd laughing Berliner in his story. 214 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:56,679 A couple last year wrote, I've in the DC area 215 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:02,559 editorial positions at MPR's said he found eighty seven registered Democrats, 216 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:04,440 zero Republicans. 217 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: Is that accurate? 218 00:12:06,039 --> 00:12:08,759 Speaker 4: We do not track the numbers or the voter registration, 219 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:09,600 but I find that. 220 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,279 Speaker 6: The ward winning journalists who worked twenty five years at MPR, 221 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:15,120 mister Berlin or was he lying when he wrote. 222 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:18,399 Speaker 4: That, I am not presuming such. I just don't have 223 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,039 We don't track that information about our journalist eighty seven 224 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,000 to zero, And you're not biased. I think that is 225 00:12:24,039 --> 00:12:25,919 concerning if those numbers are accurate. 226 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:26,759 Speaker 3: Why it's concerned. 227 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:28,279 Speaker 6: I mean, it wasn't forty four or four. 228 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: Wait, why would it be concerning? Why would that be concerning? 229 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,480 You just said that there isn't any bias. You've not 230 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,360 heard any examples in your year at the Helm. You 231 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:46,480 haven't heard any examples of bias in your journalists. So 232 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:48,960 why would it be concerning if they're all registered Democrats 233 00:12:49,399 --> 00:12:54,759 and none are Republicans. Right, they're obviously unbiased. That's what 234 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,039 you just said. Their work product is unbiased. But now 235 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,399 she's saying that this is the paradox he's trying to 236 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:05,000 wrestle with. You can't have this both ways, Ms Mahr, 237 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,559 Just like you can't say it's critical funding but it's 238 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:08,799 really not a lot of money. 239 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,519 Speaker 3: You can't. 240 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: You cannot take both sides of these questions. This is 241 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:22,919 a woman also who uh chastised people on social media 242 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,440 for using the phrase boy and girl, which she said 243 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:33,240 quote erases the language for non binary people. I think 244 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:37,720 I actually know why she hasn't detected any bias. It's 245 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,440 because a fish doesn't know it's wet, right, That's I 246 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,159 suspect that's what's really going on here. 247 00:13:44,279 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 6: Back to Jordan, forty three was in sixty twenty seven, 248 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:51,240 it was in seventy seventeen. It wasn't even eighty to seven. 249 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,879 It was eighty seven Democrats, zero Republicans. And you say 250 00:13:57,039 --> 00:14:00,720 MPR is not biased. How about the big stories over 251 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,120 the last few years. According to mister Berliner, again he 252 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:07,519 wrote on the Trump Russia story, he wrote at NPR, 253 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,600 we hitched our wagon to Trump's most visible antagonist's representative, 254 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:15,000 Adam Shipp. They said the interview him twenty five times. 255 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:17,399 Speaker 4: That accurate. I was not there at the time, but 256 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,600 those numbers sound accurate. 257 00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:21,039 Speaker 6: Those sound accurate. But then he said, when the Muller 258 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,519 report came out, and they said Mueller said, Robert Mueller 259 00:14:23,559 --> 00:14:26,840 said he found no evidence of collusion, he said, Russia 260 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:29,000 Gate faded from our programming. 261 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: Is that accurate? Again, I was not there at the time. 262 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,399 I couldn't say. 263 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,399 Speaker 6: You couldn't say you didn't prepare for that. You knew 264 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:37,879 we were going to ask you about this guy, didn't you. 265 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,399 It's come up like six thousand times already into hearing. 266 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,679 Speaker 4: I just didn't say whether it faded from our coverage. 267 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: How about this story. 268 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 6: October twenty twenty, New York Post had the Hunter Biden 269 00:14:47,559 --> 00:14:51,519 laptop story, and one of those editors, I guess one 270 00:14:51,559 --> 00:14:55,600 of those eighty seven Democrat editors, said this. We don't 271 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,720 want to waste our time on stories that are not 272 00:14:57,759 --> 00:15:00,360 really stories. We don't want to waste the listeners reader's 273 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,200 times on stories that are just pure distractions. 274 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,279 Speaker 3: Without a pure distraction story. 275 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: Our current editorial leadership believes that that was a mistake, 276 00:15:08,559 --> 00:15:09,080 as do I. 277 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole country knows that was a mistake. Definitely 278 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,960 impacted the election, or I think it certainly impacted the election. 279 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,639 How about the COVID origin story. That's pretty big story too, right, 280 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:22,360 mister Berliner said, we became fervent members of the team 281 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:25,759 natural Origin, even declaring that the lab leak was debunked 282 00:15:25,799 --> 00:15:28,000 by scientists. Turns out, though the lab leak is what 283 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,039 most people think actually caused the COVID virus. 284 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:33,799 Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, sir, A question there there is. 285 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 6: You guys were oh for three on the three, the 286 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,679 three the biggest stories in the last five years. You 287 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,600 guys were oh for three, and yet you maintain that 288 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:42,840 NPR is not biased. 289 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 4: Congressman, I do not believe we are politically biased to 290 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,519 know we are a nonpartisan organization. 291 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 292 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: She does not believe they're politically biased, they're nonpartisan. 293 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: How can you say that the. 294 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Proof is in the data that Berliner exposed, your own journalist, 295 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,600 award winning journalist that no longer works for NPR, obviously, 296 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,200 but he documented all of this. And here's the thing 297 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,200 for me, this is the thing that sticks out for me, 298 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:18,840 is like, the natural question is, wouldn't you have done 299 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:24,200 an investigation after Berliner brought this stuff to your attention. 300 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,360 Let's assume that you know, you had no idea any 301 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,440 of this was going on after he publishes that piece 302 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,360 a year ago, and now you're getting called before Congress. 303 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:35,840 Why wouldn't you have looked into it? Why wouldn't you 304 00:16:35,879 --> 00:16:39,440 have done an analysis? If you're actually trying to be 305 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,200 non biased and nonpartisan? All right, If you're listening to 306 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,720 this show, you know I try to keep up with 307 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:47,879 all sorts of current events, and I know you do too, 308 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:50,559 And you've probably heard me say get your news from 309 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:55,200 multiple sources. Why, Well, because it's how you detect media bias, 310 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:57,840 which is why I've been so impressed with ground News. 311 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,600 It's an app and it's a website and it combines 312 00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:03,720 news from around the world in one place so you 313 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:07,119 can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it 314 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,720 out at check dot ground, dot news slash pete. I 315 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:14,599 put the link in the podcast description too. I started 316 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,400 using ground News a few months ago and more recently 317 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:19,559 chose to work with them as an affiliate because it 318 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,480 lets me see clearly how stories get covered and by whom. 319 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:26,720 The blind spot feature shows you which stories get ignored 320 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:29,680 by the left and the right. See for yourself check 321 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:34,240 dot ground, dot news slash pete. Subscribe through that link 322 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:37,160 and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use 323 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,359 the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 324 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:43,319 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 325 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,519 also supports ground News as they make the media landscape 326 00:17:46,519 --> 00:17:50,839 more transparent. Let me go read some of the emails 327 00:17:50,839 --> 00:17:53,440 I have gotten. This is from Jeff, who says, I 328 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,759 am starting to see why the left loves to play 329 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,240 defend or disavow so much, or, as I call it, 330 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,000 it is kind of fun to see it turned back 331 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:04,400 on them. 332 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why they do it. Defend or disavow. 333 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:14,319 Speaker 2: Any Republican does anything, then you stuff a mic in 334 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,839 every Republican's face, demanding that they defend or disavow the 335 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:24,960 thing that somebody else did. This from Sean, I would 336 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,039 like for DOGE to look into the ad Council too, 337 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,400 to see how much we are spending for ads that 338 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,359 tell people useless advice. I don't think I need to 339 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,440 pay for an ad telling people to pay attention when 340 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,000 they drive. Common sense should take care of that. Love 341 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:39,400 Love Love the show. I really love it. 342 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: Thank you, Sean. I appreciate. 343 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: Kirk says the only good thing National Propaganda Radio ever 344 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:51,119 had was the car guys from Boston. Yeah, they were 345 00:18:51,279 --> 00:18:53,759 clicking clack car guys. 346 00:18:54,319 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: Did you know that? 347 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,079 Speaker 2: They that they would line up those calls. They would 348 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:02,279 do them like you'd have to submit your thing to them, 349 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:08,319 and then they would basically research the the issue and 350 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:10,000 then they would book the phone call with you, so 351 00:19:10,039 --> 00:19:11,319 it's not like a call in show. 352 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,279 Speaker 3: Did you know that? 353 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? 354 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: I remember they got and they got busted a while ago. 355 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,480 This was years ago, I want to say, like fifteen 356 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:24,160 years ago. They got busted for editing, editing the interviews 357 00:19:24,279 --> 00:19:27,839 that they do with people to make like to make 358 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,559 it sound like the person is more well spoken than 359 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:35,480 they actually were. Yeah, they're like chopping out you know, 360 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,240 ums and. 361 00:19:36,319 --> 00:19:37,559 Speaker 3: Us and all that other stuff. 362 00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: They It is a big scandal back in the day, 363 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,799 oh simpler times. This is from Ian, who says, despite 364 00:19:46,839 --> 00:19:50,599 having been adopted by socialists, or perhaps because I grew 365 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,799 up a free marketeer and avid cold warrior, a steady 366 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,759 childhood diet of Uncle Walter, PBS and NPR made me 367 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:02,720 think Republicans were me. In the nineteen eighty Republican primaries, 368 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,559 I was for Bush forty one because he said he 369 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,400 was for less government and lower taxes. Ha I hated 370 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,839 Reagan because of PBS and NPR and the Twin Cities 371 00:20:13,279 --> 00:20:16,960 CBS affiliates successfully tied support for him to support for 372 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:21,480 the Peterson brothers, twin redheaded pastors who said rock and 373 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:25,559 roll was demonic and held frenzied youth rallies where they 374 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:29,759 burned pyres of rock records. Reagan won me over at 375 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:34,720 Raykovic and Rush lifted the proverbial veil good health and 376 00:20:34,759 --> 00:20:40,160 God bless. That's from Ian. Let's talk about the money. 377 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,200 Here's a message. It's a Pete tweet from Eric, who 378 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,079 says NPR launders their government money through their affiliates, so 379 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,079 the national organization doesn't count the government grant being washed 380 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,400 through some university radio station as government funding when it 381 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:04,279 gets to NPR, right, the affiliates pay NPR. Did you 382 00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:10,640 know that they pay NPR for the programs. In commercial radio, 383 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,119 it's a different model. A lot of the nationally syndicated 384 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,200 programs are offered for free, but they sell the ads 385 00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:23,799 and and the locals will get to like your you 386 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,799 take it like Rush Limb, Well Rush was Rush got 387 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:29,799 paid Okay, he was the only one basically under that model. 388 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,680 But a lot of these nationally syndicated programs they are 389 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,880 provided for free. That's why you have so many of 390 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,839 the talk stations that carry them. And so they get 391 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,359 they'll they'll offer the show for free, the content for 392 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,799 free as long as they air the ads, and then 393 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,160 they will sell their ads the national spots and the 394 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,119 locals will be able to get good ratings because it's 395 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,119 a national program that has a large following and they 396 00:21:55,119 --> 00:22:00,559 can sell spots. That's the model. And in NPR our Land, 397 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:07,519 they pay the NPR fees like that's yeah anyway. So 398 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,319 NPR claims that only one percent of its roughly three 399 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:20,079 hundred million dollar yearly budget comes from the Corporation for 400 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,039 Public Broadcasting. 401 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,799 Speaker 3: That's what it claims. The CPB only. 402 00:22:24,519 --> 00:22:26,519 Speaker 2: One percent, right, And this is sort of the paradox 403 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:29,119 there that it's critical funding, but it's not really that much. 404 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,880 The Corporation for Public Broadcasting is the government supported organization 405 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,599 that has backed public radio and PBS since it was 406 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,599 created in nineteen sixty seven. 407 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 3: The CPB is funded at. 408 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:50,039 Speaker 2: Five hundred thirty five million dollars a year. Five hundred 409 00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:53,680 and thirty five million dollars a year the financial support. 410 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,240 This is according to The New York Times, While the 411 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,720 financial support for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting gives to 412 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,000 NPR and PBS, it is relatively small, about one percent 413 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,640 of NPR's budget and fifteen percent of PBS's. It provides 414 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:17,480 a larger proportion of funding for some of their smaller stations. 415 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:25,839 Then there's this from Warner Todd Houston over at the 416 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:29,759 Western Journal Western Journal dot com. This was from twenty 417 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:31,880 twenty three, and he broke down the numbers. 418 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: Right. 419 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:35,759 Speaker 2: One percent of the annual budget for NPR comes from 420 00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:37,960 the CPB. Right, That's what NPR has always been saying. 421 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,039 That's what it says on its website. However, according to 422 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:44,359 its own numbers, the broadcaster gets a lot more from 423 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:49,240 government sources than that one percent. For fiscal year twenty twenty, 424 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:55,759 for example, the broadcaster's affiliate stations received eight percent of 425 00:23:55,799 --> 00:24:00,839 their revenue from federal appropriations through the CPB. They also 426 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,759 got ten percent from colleges and universities. As Eric mentioned 427 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:09,160 in the tweet, right, they got ten percent from colleges 428 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,440 and universities, which themselves are publicly funded. They then get 429 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,920 another five percent from federal, state, and local governments. So 430 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,640 that's a grand total of twenty three percent, not one percent, 431 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,359 twenty three percent. Might this be the reason why it's 432 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,880 critical funding and PBS gets even more from government or 433 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,720 government affiliated sources. On its website, the TV broadcaster says 434 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,160 it gets fifteen percent of its revenue from the federal government, 435 00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:46,119 along with thirteen percent from state governments, three percent from 436 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:52,000 local governments, and eight percent from universities. So that is 437 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:58,720 a total of thirty nine percent. These outlets pay more. 438 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:03,519 They have nice studios, they have they do like I've 439 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:08,920 been in I've been in various publicly funded radio stations, 440 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,599 TV stations and such, and they are they're pretty nice. 441 00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:17,079 They're pretty nice. If you saw the working conditions of 442 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,440 the radio stations that are commercial, it would astound you. 443 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:25,279 Some of these places I have seen are no better 444 00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:28,119 than a well. I mean, heck, the one up in 445 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,519 the government building up in Raleigh was literally a closet. 446 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,920 That's where they stuffed the radio guy. Right, that's that's 447 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,720 sort of par for the course. Okay, it's like, you guys, 448 00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:43,559 you have no idea. 449 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: In NPR land. 450 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: You guys have no idea what the other side of 451 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:53,160 the street looks like. I really, I really can't imagine 452 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,960 that you would be making some of these arguments that 453 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,920 you're making. Oh, it's only one percent, you know how 454 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,559 many commercial broadcasters would love an extra one percent alone. 455 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480 What the actual figure is, which is probably about twenty 456 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,240 three percent, say maybe anywhere from twenty to twenty five percent. 457 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,519 That's what's actually funded through taxpayer funds. 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I think I 487 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:55,039 might be able to swing that. 488 00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: David Strom over at hotair dot com he had a great, 489 00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:07,920 very lengthy piece on Catherine Marr and NPR and it 490 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:09,519 was and he talked a little bit about Bill Maher 491 00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:12,519 because he says, one Mar is becoming red pilled, another 492 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:17,920 is a red. So the tale of two Mars Bill Maher, 493 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,359 who is like slowly becoming like red. 494 00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 3: Do you hear that? 495 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: Bill Maher is going to interview Donald Trump for his 496 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,039 like podcast or show or something. And Bill Maher is like, like, 497 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,920 good for him, good on Trump. Like Bill Maher has 498 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,640 been very critical of Donald Trump. So but Bill Maher 499 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:42,000 has been calling out the excesses of the moonbat brigade 500 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,759 inside the Democrat Party and that has gotten him a 501 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:49,000 lot of grief. He's not a conservative, but it's gotten 502 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,519 him a lot of grief from the left. So David Strom, 503 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,319 he says, regarding NPR and that mar Catherine Mark, he says, 504 00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:00,759 like people understood, and he always underst to, yes, like 505 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,720 NPR is biased, but you used to be able to 506 00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:07,599 listen to the news reports to find out what's going on, 507 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160 right understanding, he said. Their bias was more in the 508 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,599 category of Fox News. They were decidedly left, but not 509 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,200 filled with outright lies. And because NPR swam in money 510 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,720 to an extent that no other news outlet could possibly 511 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,240 dream of, they often had the best talent in the 512 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,440 business working for them. At the very least. Their talent 513 00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:32,599 had amazingly soothing voices and would surely have degrees from 514 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,839 the very best schools. They could be infuriatingly biased, but 515 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,559 they weren't stupid or resource constrained. However much they pled 516 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:46,200 poverty during their pledge drives, but sometime around the Obama 517 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,119 era they went from liberal to Pravda and you never 518 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,000 go full Pravda. And during the Trump administration they became 519 00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:59,039 the home of highbrow MSNBC style propaganda. So it is 520 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:02,079 no surprise that somebody with the pedigree of Catherine Marr 521 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:08,039 rose to the top at NPR. So I mentioned earlier 522 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,680 that she was a former CEO and executive director director 523 00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:17,759 of the Wikimedia Foundation. So this is the foundation that 524 00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:18,720 runs Wikipedia. 525 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:19,119 Speaker 1: Okay. 526 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: She has also been the chief executive of the Oh sorry, 527 00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:32,480 She's a chair of the board at Signal, the app 528 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,079 that everybody's talking about now because Jeffrey Goldberg got into 529 00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:39,920 the chat right. She's also a member of the Council 530 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,480 on Foreign Relations. She worked for UNISEEF, the National Democratic Institute, 531 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:52,759 the World Bank Access Now. She subsequently joined the Atlantic Council, 532 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:57,519 as well as the US Department of State's Foreign Affairs 533 00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:04,440 Policy Board. She grew up in Wilton, Connecticut. She attended 534 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,039 Wilton High School. Her father, Gordon Roberts Mar, worked in 535 00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:12,880 finance in New York City. Her mother, c C. Marr, 536 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,759 is a former nonprofit executive who was elected to the 537 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:19,319 Connecticut State Senate in twenty twenty two. After high school, 538 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,519 Mar graduated from the Arabic Language Institute's Arabic Language Intensive 539 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:30,759 Program of the American University in Cairo. She called it 540 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,000 a formative experience that developed her interest in the Middle East. 541 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,920 Mar also studied at the Institute Francis de Tu des 542 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Arabees de Damas. It's in Syria and she spends time 543 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,519 in Lebanon as well as Tunisia. She got a bachelor's 544 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:55,279 degree from NYU in Middle Eastern and Islamic studies. David 545 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:59,039 Strom says, look at that resume. It is so perfect, 546 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,640 at least perfect for somebody aspiring to become an executive 547 00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:08,440 at the World Economic Forum or CEO at National Public Radio, 548 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:10,920 which in many ways is the propaganda arm of the 549 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,079 World Economic Forum. 550 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: So it does make sense. It does track. 551 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,039 Speaker 2: NPR has been married to the Democrat Party for decades, 552 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,160 but its alliance with that party is more transactional than 553 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,759 you might think. 554 00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:26,599 Speaker 3: He says. 555 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: Its fealty is to a higher ideal, and that is 556 00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:35,720 technocratic rule, more in line with the European Union model 557 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,680 of politics than anything remotely as messy as American democracy. 558 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,359 It was Marxist before Marxism was cool in the Democrat Party. 559 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,319 Remember NPR called out by Jim Jordan for blowing the 560 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,119 three biggest stories of the last half decade, the Russia 561 00:32:55,119 --> 00:33:00,440 collusion hoax, the COVID origin lab leak story right, and 562 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:06,279 the Hunter Biden laptop. They not only you know minimize these. 563 00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,720 They in the case of the Hunter Biden story, they 564 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480 flat out refused to cover it. They called it a distraction. 565 00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:16,240 They said it wasn't it wasn't true. The lablique theory 566 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:19,519 was dismissed, although now it seems like everybody's coming around 567 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:25,359 to that right. But they ally, the mistakes are always 568 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,079 made in one direction. Notice I'm sure Catherine Marr really 569 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,559 does believe that NPR is not a part as a 570 00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:36,880 news outlet. Its values and goals transcend anything as grubby 571 00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:41,000 as controlling the politics of any one country. Watching mar 572 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:44,240 testify before Congress is something of a roar shock test. 573 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,720 NPR listeners probably hear something akin to a pack of 574 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:52,160 howling wolves chasing a damsel in distress. She's an innocent 575 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,839 young woman being hounded by grubby, smelly predators who can't 576 00:33:55,839 --> 00:34:01,799 appreciate her value and beauty. But people like me see 577 00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:06,960 a smug cultural Marxist who lives off the taxpayer dime, 578 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,639 looks down on all of us, and is offended by 579 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,119 the idea that she has to justify the excessive generosity 580 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,719 of the public to her corrupt and damaging organization. 581 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: This is why I said she is awful. 582 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: Well yeah, well and awful awfl affluent white female liberal, 583 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,880 and she is exactly what's wrong with the Democrat Party 584 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,400 and that makes her perfect to be the head of NPR. 585 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,719 I don't think they're going to be able to course correct. 586 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,079 I don't, and I don't think that they need to. 587 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 3: But they don't. 588 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 2: They don't need my money. They shouldn't get it right, 589 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,679 do whatever you want to do, but I'm going to 590 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,480 keep my money and Congress should make sure that that happens. 591 00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 592 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,960 so much for listening. 593 00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:01,199 Speaker 2: I could not do the show about your support and 594 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,960 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 595 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,400 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 596 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,119 them you heard it here. You can also become a 597 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:12,800 patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecalnarshow dot com. Again, 598 00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:15,639 thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything 599 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:20,199 while I'm gone.