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My name is Jim Cummings 12 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:41.840 and welcome to tuned In. 13 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:45.759 Welcome back everybody to another episode of Tuned In with 14 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.560 Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris. How are you doing today, 15 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:50.320 mister legends Jim Cummings. 16 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:53.399 Yes, that's what I feel. I'm having a very legendary day. 17 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:54.240 Thank you for asking. 18 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:55.079 That is a great day. 19 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:58.159 It is absolutely and you're all invited. 20 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:00.560 We have a great episode coming up for you guys. Today. 21 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:03.439 We are sitting down with Jim meskam In. You know 22 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:05.640 if you love him. It was a great conversation that 23 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:06.040 we had. 24 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:09.120 Yeah, him, and when Jim shows up, you've got like 25 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.920 a cast of thousands that you can talk to. And 26 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.959 they also and he's got the greatest impressions in the world. 27 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:15.640 I'm telling you. 28 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.000 Yeah, we think you guys are gonna really w They're 29 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:20.640 really granny. We had a good time. 30 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.879 We want to give another thanks to Borisa LaMarsh for 31 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:26.439 last week's episode. That was a great episode too. And 32 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:28.879 we've been having a lot of fun on this show lately. 33 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:30.480 Absolutely a lot of good conversations. 34 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:33.040 Well, Moe's one of my oldest pals into business, and 35 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:37.480 he played my dad sixty five plus times because he 36 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:41.319 was Tasmanian Devil's dad and I was Taz and he 37 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:44.680 was dad and Lola Dad, so tas like that day 38 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:47.079 and so we had a good time. You got to 39 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:48.079 tune it, you got to be there. 40 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:50.400 Well, we hope you guys enjoy the episode today. But 41 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:52.760 before we get to that, we just want to remind 42 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.519 you guys to like and subscribe if you like this 43 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:57.000 content and you want to see more. 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I just so happened 56 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:29.000 to be wearing Look at this guys hop on say 57 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:30.759 Jim Comings Shopify. 58 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:33.199 Right, yeah, Jim Commings closet on Shopify if you want 59 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:35.000 to get some of this sweet and merchant. 60 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.199 Not in the closet, but I'm out now and I'm 61 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:40.199 wearing this. You can see what is that? The Karate Kid? No, 62 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:42.919 it's the Honey Kid. And anyway, there's a lot of 63 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.479 cool stuff in there and a little something for everybody, 64 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.520 I think, right, yeah, it comes in all sizes and colors, 65 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:52.400 especially yours, and tune in and spend too much. 66 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:55.000 Lastly, I think you're going to be at a convention 67 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:56.039 this weekend, aren't you. 68 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.280 Yes, For those of you who are in the neighborhood, 69 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:01.840 and who are and would like to be in the neighborhood. 70 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.599 Do it in Las Vegas and it's called anime Las Vegas. 71 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:10.599 I'm a huge star in the world of anime anyway. Uh, 72 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:13.199 so be there, come by and say hi, and we'll 73 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:14.039 have a grin. 74 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:18.280 Please absolutely, absolutely, Okay, let's get into it. Then here's 75 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:21.919 our episode interview with Jim Meskuman. We hope you guys 76 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.199 enjoy it. We'll see you in the next one. All right, 77 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:27.759 welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with 78 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.879 Jim Cummings as always and joined by Jim Cummings of course. 79 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.479 Oh everybody, Thank you, Producer Chris. 80 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:33.719 Thank you. 81 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.120 I'm producer Chris. And today we have our special guest, 82 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.000 Jim Meskaman. Thank you so much for being here. 83 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:40.879 Hey, double Jim show. We're here at the gym together and. 84 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:45.840 The crowd right. Wow, yes, fantastic, Thanks for being here, 85 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:46.360 my pleasure. 86 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:46.560 Yeah. 87 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:47.919 Thanks great to sit and talk to you. I mean 88 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:49.680 we've spoken very little. 89 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.599 Yeah, yeah, careers so far. True enough. And we uh 90 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.400 were on the way in, we were cheating and we 91 00:03:56.479 --> 00:04:01.080 listened to a podcast you did on a infinitely less 92 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:05.159 interesting podcast. I don't even know the guy's name. I 93 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.840 made that last part up, but it was very interesting. 94 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:09.719 It was very cool. 95 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:10.639 Oh cool, cool. 96 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.000 Yeah, well, I'll try not to tell those stories or 97 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:14.039 to tell them in a different way. 98 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:19.279 Yeah, that's right. And I always think it's nice when 99 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:24.759 you know there's there's a legacy aspect, because I remember 100 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:29.879 that Mel Blank tried to pull his son Noel into 101 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.639 his footsteps and it kind of didn't work very well, 102 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:37.959 because I mean, Mel's Mel and everybody else, even his 103 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:38.680 son isn't. 104 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.120 And Paul freesees has a son who's also very good, 105 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:44.480 but just sounds totally different. 106 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.279 I mean, you know I did not know that, Yeah, yes, 107 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.720 And Paul Freese, can you tell everybody who may not? Never, 108 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.560 but I think everybody knows Mel Blank. Yeah, well Paul 109 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.000 free I don't know Paul Freese. 110 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.399 He sounds like surrender, foolish mortals. 111 00:04:59.160 --> 00:04:59.680 Is this that? 112 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:03.600 Yes, something like that in the voice of the Hunting Mansion. Yes, 113 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.600 And he had always had a kind of an orson Wells. 114 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:10.399 Absolutely. I heard that we're mistaken for each other a lot. 115 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.720 Yeah, I'm sure they were vocally, and I'm sure he 116 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:17.000 worked hard at that to make that illusion complete. And 117 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.480 you just had Maurice LaMarsh in here not long ago, 118 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:22.839 and yes, it's one of those people that's specialized in 119 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:28.160 evoking that wells in delivery. But Paul Frees also you 120 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.480 may or may not know this. It's very trivial, but 121 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:31.279 it surprised me. 122 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:33.079 He is also the voice of. 123 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.120 The Pillsbury dough Boy. Oh yeah. 124 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:38.839 And Tony Curtis's female voice in some like It Hot 125 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:40.199 did you know that? 126 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:40.959 Wow? 127 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:44.360 So in some like an Billy Wilder. 128 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:48.000 Film where he Jack Lemon are pretending to be women and. 129 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:53.360 Hotel Dell and what was that, Hotel del Coronado. 130 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:54.759 Oh exactly exactly. 131 00:05:55.399 --> 00:06:01.160 And anyway, when Tony Curtis was either unable or unsatisfactorily 132 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:05.399 able to do the his female voice, Paul Freese is 133 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:06.040 doing that voice. 134 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:10.360 Wow, that's increating. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah. 135 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.040 Paul Frees's son, whose name escapes me at the moment 136 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:17.439 because it's a name, wrote a book about his dad 137 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:20.560 and there's all kinds of interesting trivia. But he was 138 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.959 just multi multifaceted, and he was kind of the guy 139 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:25.879 to go to for everything. I mean, he's like one 140 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:28.279 of these legendary characters in the day of voice over 141 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:31.000 where you have fifteen sessions a day, and you'd around 142 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:33.160 in an ambulance just to make. 143 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:34.720 All the books and uh. 144 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:39.000 And he also he also worked as like an undercover cop. 145 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.600 Somebody did you work with the police undercover towards the 146 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:44.240 end of his life. 147 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:45.959 Anyway, a lot of fascinating. 148 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.920 Stories about the Great Paul Freeze, but mostly known to 149 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:53.040 people that Disneyland and that's spooky, spooky, haunted mansion. 150 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:57.279 Feels very dofent. And was he somewhere somewhere along the 151 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:01.839 line the Green Giant very likely? Yeah, yeah, a little 152 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.399 bit of everything. I think he was the Horus battern Off. 153 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:12.000 I think he was too. Was John Moss and Squirrel, 154 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.600 Gid the Moose and Squareal, Yeah, I think that was him. Yeah, 155 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:17.079 it goes on and on. I've heard him. 156 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.480 He did some a d R for the original Godzilla 157 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:20.439 with Raymond Burr. 158 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:21.480 You can hear him. 159 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:23.959 He just pops up all over the phone. You're just 160 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:27.319 never not in front of a microphone. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm. 161 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.040 A little bit of well he did what was his 162 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.600 one The thing he was in the Thing, the original 163 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:37.000 Thing with Cara on camera with James ar Nest was 164 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:41.879 the thing. And yeah, the one that Kurt Russell was 165 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:46.279 not in, you know that one and uh yeah, and 166 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:49.199 I think he looked like a carrot James arnested, but 167 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.000 he was on camera in that. And it's so funny 168 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:56.000 because you're you're you're seeing that this this group scene, 169 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:56.920 and all of a sudden, he. 170 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:00.560 Goes, well, now where should we go? He He's got 171 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:06.000 to be somewhere, you know, and you're going, oh wow, 172 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.040 because it's so distinct. 173 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:11.600 He's also one of these guys. This is turning into 174 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:13.160 a show about Paul Freeze. But the other thing I'll 175 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:14.639 say is that he's one of these guys that got 176 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.639 out of the army. Was in New York City, was 177 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:21.839 walking down the street and someone said, and he's looking 178 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:23.839 for work and someone said, hey, they're hiring people at 179 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:27.839 CBS to do some some things. That was wow, just 180 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:32.519 very simple route into a major career. 181 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:33.480 Geez. 182 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.240 One of the stories you just voiceover guys. We love 183 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:38.600 all that trivia. We love all those stories about people 184 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:43.639 and how they got started stories. And you know, now 185 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:45.919 I'm unacquainted with how you got started. Now, what was 186 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:46.840 your first big break? 187 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:53.039 Uh? Well, it's really atypical. But for what it's worth, 188 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:55.639 I wanted to do this since I was five. I've 189 00:08:55.759 --> 00:08:58.399 said that before. All the greats, by the way, are 190 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.159 like that. Oh oh well, they want to know from 191 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.519 they wanted from an early age. They got it. 192 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:06.879 Their eye on the goal, and that is tremendously potent. 193 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:10.919 Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think so. But I 194 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:15.799 didn't have an agent, but had I worked at a 195 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.080 video depot when you didn't have an agent. I was 196 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:21.240 a video game when I was hired. What's that? Yeah, well, 197 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.279 when I was fine, But no, I think there's more 198 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:25.879 like when I was twenty nine something like that. But 199 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.679 I worked at a place at Anaheim Hills video depot 200 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.480 and one of our customers was Bob Starr. He was 201 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:36.799 the voice of the Angels. And another one was another 202 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:40.360 fellow who he ran a recording studio or whatever. And 203 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:44.120 I said, well, you know, I've got this tape I 204 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:47.360 made an audio and it was a cassette, you know, 205 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:49.919 I didn't know, And I gave it to him and 206 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:53.320 he said, well, you know, I'm not doing anything right now. 207 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.960 He did Dragon's Layer, which is a video game you 208 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:01.200 put in a quarter back then a stand up video game, 209 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.039 and he said, well okay, And he said, well, I'm 210 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.679 not doing anything. I'll hold on to it. And two 211 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.240 weeks later I get a call from this guy, Frank 212 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:14.480 Brandt got rest his Soul, and he said, well, hey kid, yeah, 213 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.159 I got this tape from my buddy over there and 214 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:19.639 I listened to it and you don't you know, you 215 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:22.759 don't stink. So would you like to come up an 216 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:27.840 audition for something? And I said audition, you mean shops, 217 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:33.320 Jimminy crickets. So I did and I lucked. I thank 218 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:34.679 you lord, I got that job. 219 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.799 You came up from Anaheim Hills and I'm. 220 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:42.759 To yeah, to Hollywood and I auditioned for it, and 221 00:10:42.960 --> 00:10:46.200 he was very gracious and I got the job. 222 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.240 What did the audition consistent? Did they give you a script. 223 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.799 Or yeah, they gave me a script and they and 224 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.720 they said to send a demo to them in advance, 225 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.840 which I did and they said, okay, you're at least 226 00:10:57.879 --> 00:10:59.679 good enough to get an audition, and I got and 227 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.519 I had the audition. It was Dumbo's Circus and it 228 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:07.240 was people in costume. It was a continuation of like 229 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.200 the end of the Dumbo the movie, and it moved 230 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.360 on well. I ended up playing basically Timothy the mouse. 231 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:16.360 But the problem was it was live action and it 232 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:19.600 was some little people in costume and some you know, 233 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:21.840 like Dumbo was two people. One was the butt, one 234 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:28.480 was the head and yeah, and uh so I they 235 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.679 changed it to a lion and I was lionl the 236 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.960 lion and I was Dumbo's best pal. And so that 237 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:37.559 was my first job. Wow. 238 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.679 And was it looping? Did you like have to lip flat? 239 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:44.399 No? No, that's that was a great That was a 240 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:48.000 fortune fortunate thing. We would record it and then they 241 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.279 would take it over to the set and they had 242 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:53.159 a green screen. Everything was green screen back then, and 243 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.200 Dumbo's circus that they walked inside of, and it was 244 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.960 about this big you know, and they do the magic 245 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:04.120 of you know. And that was my first job. And 246 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:06.879 it lasted a year and a half. Oh my gosh. 247 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:10.480 So a weekly show. Yeah, and I went from making 248 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:16.399 four hundred something a week to double that. Hey see, 249 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.120 a week a week even. And so I said, well, 250 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:23.559 I'm doing this. I'm never going to move. I wanted 251 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.320 to anyway. I mean, it was my goal. And by 252 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:29.039 the time Dumble Circus was over and we're dumb recording, 253 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:32.720 I did have an agent and I was doing jobs 254 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:36.440 and and I didn't know that it was impossible to 255 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.080 break into. In fact, the first, the first audition I 256 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:43.399 ever had, they used the audition, I said. They called 257 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.080 me up and they go, well you got the job, 258 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:48.240 And I go, oh, that's great. When do we record it? No, no, 259 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:50.759 don't worry about We're using the audition. I went, Okay, 260 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.639 I really love this business. I'm so going to do 261 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:57.960 this home run. Now where do I sign up for 262 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.279 my next job? Can you just hire me again? Then 263 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:04.840 something else? And it kind of did work that way, 264 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.320 but I, like I say, I ran into Frank Brant 265 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:10.480 Caroline Hay and I got the job as a linel 266 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:12.600 and by the end of that that, like I said, 267 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:15.440 sixty five episodes. Then I did have an agent, Sandi 268 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:16.399 Stalk for sure. 269 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:19.240 And then I worked to turn into a union job 270 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:20.440 or did you join right? 271 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.039 Oh? Yeah, it was yeah, it was alas yeah and 272 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.600 uh and then the rest is mystery. 273 00:13:28.679 --> 00:13:30.919 When was the last time you saw a residual check 274 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:31.559 for that show? 275 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:37.840 That's a good question. Years, Yeah, decades, I've never heard. 276 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.639 I don't know that it was this century. Yeah, I 277 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.279 don't think it was. Yeah, what a great first opportunity. 278 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:46.480 And after you've done sixty five episodes or something, you 279 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:49.120 must have a tremendous amount of confidence and ease a 280 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:49.960 microphone and. 281 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:52.759 Yeah and yeah, well nobody told me it was impossible 282 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.960 to break into so I, you know, and I just 283 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.240 walked in and can I have another job? 284 00:13:58.320 --> 00:13:58.559 Sure? 285 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:02.320 Yeah, And I thought that's how it worked. It did 286 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:05.200 for you apparently, Yeah, yeah I did, and I and 287 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:08.679 I you know, I thank you lord. You know, it's 288 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:12.240 just very grateful. Yeah, yeah, well that's a big thing. 289 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:13.600 It's to that point. 290 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:17.519 I think it's extremely important that people do understand if 291 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:21.360 they want to get into this business that, you know, 292 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:25.240 the the tropes about it being a small, closed, difficult 293 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:28.480 to enter field. Obviously there's nuggets of truth in there. 294 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:32.200 But I think that those those nuggets become boulders if 295 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.960 you concentrate on them, you know, and if I in 296 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:37.799 my own experience, I made it a point when I 297 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:39.519 did hear that, and I heard it in New York 298 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:42.159 when I first came to New York and to get 299 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:45.720 into show business, and people would say, oh, yeah, it's 300 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.519 always the same ten people do everything. Yeah, and I 301 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.039 would hear that, I'd go, I've heard that so many times. 302 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.399 I just know that's a lie. Yeah, it's a prevalent 303 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:58.879 held opinion. I'm going to completely disregard it. And it 304 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.919 helped to do that, Yes, because I always tried. Yeah 305 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:04.759 I didn't. I didn't use it as an excuse. 306 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.600 Yeah. Yeah, well that that was wise. 307 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.679 That was That's a spot like I did, Jim, I 308 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:13.480 did a lot of stupid things toopid. 309 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:19.720 That was spot. And you know, I have to ask you, 310 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:22.480 do people when they think of you do they think 311 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.799 of course they think actor, but do they think comedian? 312 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:29.600 Do they think impressionist? Or do they go yeah, that's 313 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:30.279 they're all him. 314 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:32.679 I'm not a mind reader, Jim. I don't know what 315 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.000 I can't tell you. 316 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.559 Or mind reader? I forgot that. What about mind reader? 317 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:40.360 Yes, I knew you were going to say that. 318 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:43.000 I don't know. That's great. 319 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:48.440 I think I'm sort of buttered all over the industry, 320 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.919 so I think people do mostly I've made. I think 321 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.320 if people think of me at all, I think they 322 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:55.879 mostly think of me as an impressionist. 323 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.399 And that's because you're incredible. That helps. Thank you. I've 324 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:02.200 certainly worked on it a lot. That helps. I've worked 325 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:02.759 on a lot, and. 326 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.559 You're a wonderful impression is too. I must say it 327 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:07.639 took me a long time to realize that that was 328 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:11.159 the tip of the spirit in my career, was impressions, 329 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:13.360 because I it's just so much a part of me. 330 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:16.120 I don't think it's anything particularly special. In fact, for 331 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:18.679 years I thought, well, this is in every guide to this. 332 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.039 This is what guys do, right, Yeah, imitate people. Yeah 333 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:23.879 it's not we teachers and friends and. 334 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.440 Yeah, did you do that too? Because my aunt Grace 335 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:29.559 has been God lover. She's been in a lot of cartoons, 336 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.480 and so is my uncle Sam. My uncle Sam's always 337 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:35.720 a dragon or the troll. And my aunt Grace, what 338 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:40.840 does your uncle Sam sound like? Just? Oh, Jesus. And 339 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.759 he used to call me James eye Goal and that 340 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:47.919 was some kid he went to school with. And then 341 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.480 my head Grace. This is the way that she sounded 342 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:54.960 to me when I was five, And I'm sure God 343 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.000 love her. My cousins are going you know, my mother 344 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:00.759 didn't sound like that, but she said anyway. She ended 345 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:06.200 up being Lieutenant Spinelli on Chipendale's Rescue Ranger. It's fantastic. 346 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:08.799 Yeah, yeah, so yeah, this is what we do. We 347 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:14.680 extract interesting personas and try to sell them. You know, 348 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.160 I've got lots of people in my life that I've 349 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:19.640 tried to sell and they haven't been sold yet, so 350 00:17:19.839 --> 00:17:23.640 there's still out there. But some I have definitely instituted. 351 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.799 But mainly I've been doing you know, well known celebrities 352 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:29.759 and people on TV and movies and stuff like that. 353 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.359 But so if people think of me, I think they 354 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:35.200 think of me as that. It took me a long 355 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:37.200 time to focus on that and go, oh, this is 356 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.799 what this is what people kind of want to hear 357 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:42.200 from me. So maybe I better specialize in that a 358 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:43.519 little more mark myself that way. 359 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:45.400 But I was in my I was fifty before I 360 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:46.279 figured that out. 361 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:49.599 So maybe it will all would have gone differently. But 362 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:55.200 I've had different kinds of careers, very very different that 363 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:59.480 didn't involve impressions and didn't even really involve voiceover very much, 364 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:00.440 character very much. 365 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.519 That was your impression of missus c that's what I 366 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:04.079 don't have that. 367 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:09.680 Well, I yes, my mother, Yes, that's your mother. Yeah, 368 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:11.799 my dear dear mom. I just saw a couple of 369 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.480 days ago and she's ninety six. 370 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:17.519 Oh my goodness, from happy days of you that don't 371 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:18.880 know tell the world. 372 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:20.119 Mary and Ross have happy days. 373 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:24.039 Missus C, the beautiful missus C, who I admire more 374 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:26.920 every day the more I learned about what she's done. 375 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:29.079 I mean, she was a single mom, raised two kids, 376 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.119 very determined to be uh, to make it in show business. 377 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.200 And I just recently learned I'm listening to we We 378 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:40.359 put her together with a ghostwriter a few years ago, 379 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:44.160 and she penned her memoir and did an audiobook of it, 380 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.920 and did you know, narrated her own audiobook, And so 381 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.960 I'm listening. I never, I never, I never listened to 382 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:51.519 it until recently because I was like, I. 383 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:52.759 Was, you knew it, I knew everything. 384 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:53.000 Yah. 385 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:55.519 Know what point was my wife, Tamma and I were 386 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:57.799 trying to get her together with someone to record these 387 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:00.240 stories because we knew she had these stories. She would 388 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:01.599 tell us these stories are like, oh my god, I 389 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:03.000 don't remember all the ins and outs of this. 390 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:05.240 We got to go get her together with someone. 391 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:05.839 So she did. 392 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:08.240 It's called my Days Happy and otherwise. 393 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:09.359 Yeah. 394 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:11.440 And one thing I learned recently about my mom which 395 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:14.799 I didn't know, was that she always did theater. Her 396 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:16.839 goal was not to be a movie star. Her goal 397 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:18.319 was not to be I mean, she was born in 398 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:19.759 twenty eight, so she didn't have the goal to be 399 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.039 a TV star because it hadn't been a minute. Her 400 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.640 goal was to be a Broadway actress and to do 401 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:28.880 big plays and to be and she got into TV 402 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:31.640 and film because she thought, that'll help me get on stage. 403 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:34.119 I'll get better roles on stage. 404 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:37.839 Oh my gosh. And I think the whole world thinks differently, 405 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.799 doesn't it. I mean, sure, you know, I think, well, 406 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:45.960 all right, I'll do a couple of play you know, fine, fine, you. 407 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.680 Know, because it's a lot of work to do a play, yeah, 408 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:51.680 and rather unrewarding in a lot of ways. I mean, 409 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.759 it's maximum labor, and you know, you really run the 410 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:58.160 risk of people not showing up, especially in this town. 411 00:19:58.200 --> 00:19:59.759 I mean, it's almost a joke. 412 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.519 But she eventually, at an early age, did make it 413 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:06.960 to Broadway and Wow in a play that didn't last 414 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.160 very long, but she had that experience. And then later on, 415 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:12.359 after she'd become a star and a known celebrity, she 416 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.240 toured with Jeane Stapleton and Arsenic and Old Lace, which 417 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:19.119 started on Broadway all over the country. And but she 418 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:21.640 would even in the hiatus of Happy Days, she would 419 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:25.240 do plays and it was just like I never questioned it, 420 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:25.960 I ever thought about it. 421 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:27.240 Then as I got to be an adultter was like, 422 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:28.319 it has a lot of trouble. 423 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:32.559 She wasn't getting paid tremendous amounts of money, you know, 424 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:35.759 eight shows a week and she was in her sixties. 425 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:37.400 And oh that's true. Yeah wow. 426 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.640 And she'd go to Seattle and do Long Day's journeying 427 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:42.559 the night and go somewhere and do go to Toronto and 428 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:47.319 do one of the Neil Simon plays and. 429 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:48.240 It's like, this just work. 430 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:52.640 But that was what she really wanted to do. Anyway, 431 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:54.160 I'm pretty crazy about her. 432 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:59.880 Oh yeah, well everybody is everybody. Did you work with her? Yeah? 433 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:01.079 That I could say. 434 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.759 So she's SpongeBob's grandmother. 435 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:08.319 Oh wow, episodes that she knows Tom Kenny and those 436 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.079 guys and Fred Yeah yeah, oh that's yeah. 437 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:12.880 I can see that. 438 00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:13.400 Yeah. 439 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:15.400 And the last couple of jobs she did, I record her. 440 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.240 At my house in my in my studio. Wow, I 441 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:21.519 bet you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've been working worked 442 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:22.839 at home COVID. 443 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.680 Yeah, yeah, luckily I was waist set up for that. 444 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:26.960 I do audio books. 445 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:31.000 So ten years ago, twelve years ago an audiobook company 446 00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:34.839 sent me up with a booth, and I I spend 447 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:35.599 a lot of time here. 448 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:40.079 If you're a fan of everything we do here at 449 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.960 tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support the show 450 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:47.680 on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well as early 451 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:51.720 in ad free access to the show itself, prize drawings, 452 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:54.880 and more. You'll feel the difference, so go ahead and 453 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:58.839 join the tuned In family today at patreon dot com. 454 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:04.440 Slash Jimming's podcast do It Now. That's really cool. Do 455 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.160 you do any books? No, you really don't need to. 456 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:09.920 Yeah, no, but I wouldn't advise it. 457 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.119 You know the book you really love, well, I would 458 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:19.279 do a Confederacy of Duncis, you know, And I just 459 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:21.839 I'm really really fond of that book. It's it's probably 460 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:25.079 the book i've read reread the most out of uh, 461 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:30.680 you know, I'm a pretty decent reader. And uh, good 462 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:31.400 old what's his name? 463 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:32.200 That guy? 464 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:39.799 Yeah? No, no, John o'tool? Yeah anyway, call in folks please, Yeah, 465 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:44.759 that's Queah. But uh, I can't I actually heard that. 466 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:49.279 I haven't read it myself. Yeah, ignacious O'Reilly was the protagonist, 467 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:54.839 and it's just a delicious character. And you know, and personally, I. 468 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:57.200 You know, I I'm John Kennedy. 469 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:02.440 John Kennedy Tool. Yeah, I had the wrong Kennedy. But 470 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.480 but it's it's it's set in New Orleans, and I 471 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:07.880 have a great fondness for New Orleans. I moved there 472 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:10.160 out of high school. I was a deckhand and oh 473 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:14.319 really yeah, I designed Martin groffloads for a few years. Yeah. Wow, 474 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.680 a typical career path. You know, are you a visual 475 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:23.079 artist is a sort of I was. Yeah. They paid me, yeah, 476 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:29.920 which was astonishing. Wait, I I do this stuff for free. Yeah. 477 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:32.799 I worked for Comas Momis and Proteus for about two years. 478 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:35.200 Two and a half years. Those are the names of 479 00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:38.839 the cruise k R E W E S. And that 480 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:44.079 means parade group in New Orleans. And uh yeah for 481 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:49.000 and I not Bacchus, Comas Moments, Proteus Olympia. They were 482 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:55.720 over in Slide Dell. Everybody yes, well yeah, there you 483 00:23:55.759 --> 00:24:00.279 go on dasher On. No, but but that was me. 484 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:04.039 Yeah, wow, wow, it's how long were you in New 485 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:04.920 Orleans area? 486 00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:07.240 Oh? Maybe ten years? 487 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:09.720 Oh my gosh, you probably got a good Cajun accent 488 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:10.640 and all that suff Oh. 489 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.759 Yeah, I've that's good I've been designated Cajun a lot 490 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.000 like a Hanna Barbara. 491 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:16.000 Oh that's good to have. 492 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:19.200 Yeah, because nothing pisses me off. And I'll get this 493 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:23.880 off my chest again. I probably have you know, Lety'll say, Okay, 494 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.720 now we need a Cagun. That ain't gonna be no problem. 495 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:30.640 I'll tell you what. I'm a cage and I'm thinking, no, yeah, 496 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:34.640 that's really good. No you're not, how about that? You know? 497 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:38.640 But I did get that cage of letterhead. He was 498 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:42.279 from them teenaged newtant Ninja turtle and they dog like 499 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:45.960 that and that's and that was, for what it's worth, 500 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:49.640 that was literally my uh, the voice of my first 501 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:52.519 because I'm sure you do this too. He was my 502 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.920 first captain on a tugboat. He was on the old Dutch. 503 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:57.319 I never forget your first captain. 504 00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.880 You never forget your first captain. And he hated my guts. 505 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.319 What I got some Yankee college board. This is my 506 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:08.079 last time on the river. I got to put up 507 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:14.319 with your little pickass at you and I'm sorry. I'm 508 00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:19.160 from Youngstown a while and uh, but I picked up 509 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.160 on the Cajun accent and I've, like I say, I've 510 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.519 used it oh for sure, for sure. 511 00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:25.720 Now it's so great. 512 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.559 Yeah. And when Ray the Firefly, Princess and the Frog, 513 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:31.440 you know, he from down there. 514 00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:33.960 Yeah, will you come on, we pass a good dome, 515 00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:38.160 make me like my butt and uh so yeah that's me. 516 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:41.519 I love the dynamics, so that that's fantastic. Yeah, I mean, 517 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:44.599 you know, you're quite a sponge too, I mean I am. 518 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:48.279 I am a total sponge. I mean, uh and I 519 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.119 find it's the best way to learn an accent that 520 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.960 I've ever encountered is actually make friends with somebody from 521 00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.160 that place and just kind of be them, you know, 522 00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:58.720 because they'll give you. First of all, you're in the 523 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:01.599 room with them. You're right with them, you know, living 524 00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:05.039 life in some respect, and so you know about their 525 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:08.480 viewpoint and their background and how they hold themselves, and 526 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:10.720 you know so much. So much data comes from just 527 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.079 a direct thing, far better than just checking on YouTube 528 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:16.440 and looking at some little interview with someone who is 529 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:19.200 you know too. But if you can actually be with 530 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:23.400 someone and that's your buddy, And that's how I learned 531 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.079 the Australian accent. Knowing a lot of people down in Australia, 532 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.720 people down in Sydney, lovely people that you know, delightful 533 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:34.119 to spake with, and it would be hard to learn it. 534 00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:37.359 Other ways, I think it easier my first boss. You 535 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:39.079 made me think of my boss who I worked at 536 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.160 an art supply store. I'm also an artist, and I 537 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.200 worked at an art supplies store in high school and 538 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:44.200 ran deliveries. 539 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:45.319 Nice and my. 540 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:51.640 Boss, mister Alfhauser, was German who had been in the 541 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:55.359 Second World War. I moved to England and was so 542 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:58.319 he had sort of a hybrid accent. It was German, 543 00:26:58.359 --> 00:26:59.839 but he would say, young man, we've got to get 544 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.319 you the road, and it was a sort of British 545 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:05.759 German thing, and I was like, yeah, cool the way 546 00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:06.400 he sounds. 547 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:09.759 Yeah, that's interested in a part. But I can't believe 548 00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:11.759 and I heard both of them. That's pretty good. 549 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.480 Yeah, it's just me being him so's yeah. Yeah, it's 550 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.880 all those little indicators are there. 551 00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.480 Do you play any instruments or have a musical background. 552 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:23.599 I love to sing. I never have learned an instrument. 553 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:27.000 I started to learn. I got interested in the piano, 554 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:33.599 but never really because I drew cartoons and I drew constantly. 555 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:38.279 That was kind of my little artistic flow, and. 556 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:43.440 I I just focused on that, and I regret not 557 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:44.480 knowing how to play keyboard. 558 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.480 But my father my parents were divorced, so I go 559 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:47.759 to my. 560 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.799 Father's house on the weekends. And he was. 561 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.279 A guitar player and a folk singer. 562 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:56.279 Oh and we would not professionally, but that was his 563 00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:57.680 kind of hobby and we should add it. 564 00:27:58.039 --> 00:27:59.920 And he would sing Jimmy Rodgers songs. 565 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.480 He would introduce me to a lot of music, and 566 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:04.599 he would play guitar, and he and my sister and I, 567 00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:09.599 my younger sister, would sing every weekend for an hour 568 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:10.160 and a half. 569 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.240 Wow, you know before dinner. Well, let's see grant his 570 00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:15.480 guitar and smoke a cigarette and no kids. 571 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.559 We'd sing the fox lie down on chili and I 572 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:18.599 pray to the moon. 573 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:20.400 Dude, give him my you know. 574 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.000 We'd sing these old texts of songs or whatever the 575 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:23.480 little kids. 576 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:27.359 It was so sweet. 577 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.039 And yeah, I don't think anything of it, you know, 578 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:32.880 you don't when you're a kid, just like, no, this 579 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:33.799 is what we do every weekend. 580 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:34.160 We do this. 581 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.359 And but later on I realized, well I learned that 582 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:43.279 there's singing is fairly simple activity. It's nothing. I mean, 583 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:44.680 if you want to be a professional. I guess you 584 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.119 can get training. Then it's like a thing you can 585 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:49.319 you can go down that road. You can you know, 586 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:50.319 dig that row. 587 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.240 You get trained for training for singing and little here 588 00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:55.359 and there, here and there. 589 00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:00.920 But I I, since that wasn't really where my heart 590 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.000 so much lay. I was already like I can sing, 591 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:05.240 I can sing out, and I've sung for Disney a 592 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:08.599 bunch of times, and I'm good. 593 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:12.359 Enough to with help muscle through something. 594 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.839 I just quickly. I worked on a game. 595 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.400 Called Epic Mickey hm oh, which you probably were on too. 596 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:20.839 Yeah, I think I was in there something. Yeah, I'm 597 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:23.400 sure you were, with a lot of characters black blots 598 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:24.519 on the screen or whatever. 599 00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.440 I remember that exactly. So Epic Mickey won. There was 600 00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.440 a character and it was all these kind of backwater 601 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:35.440 that's not the right word, but the ancillary characters of 602 00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.400 Disney that they had in the in the store room 603 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.480 somewhere that they still owned and they wanted to kind of, 604 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.440 you know, revivify. And there was a character of a 605 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.279 mad doctor, this big slavic looking guy with rubber gloves 606 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:53.759 in a white lab called which was that was it 607 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:58.960 for Mickey still has a shop and on labra. 608 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:01.960 Brain transplants. 609 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.279 Yes, yeah, hair. 610 00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:06.960 But anyway, so that was like in Epic Mickey one, 611 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.279 that was all he did. He may have said a 612 00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:11.559 couple of things, but he just kind of laughed niacically. 613 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:13.519 A couple of years later, they said, hey, they're doing 614 00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.240 Epic Mickey two. Did you were you on that one? 615 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:18.079 I don't. I don't know. 616 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.000 So they said, well, well the Mad Doctor's back in 617 00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:21.960 that big Mickey too, and I'm like, oh, that's good. 618 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:27.200 I show up and it's like five ballads, ballads, ballads, 619 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:33.240 song you just did singing oh and complex like Sondheim 620 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.039 ishu you know. 621 00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:41.440 So he went from to rather big orchestral numbers some. 622 00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:43.839 Yeah like that. 623 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:45.359 Like so, how did you tackle that? 624 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.200 Well a bar at a time. I mean, I'm pretty 625 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.599 good at remembering. 626 00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:54.599 They want yeah still yeah yeah, singing like that. 627 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.400 But singing yeah, so, which, you know, that's something we 628 00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.519 have to do. We have to stress out our voices sometimes. 629 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.960 But they had a piano track and Ben Hoppey at 630 00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.680 Disney character voices helped me because I don't read music, 631 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:09.720 but I would have the music there and I go, oh, 632 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:12.240 I see it is that same note that all goes 633 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:13.799 down a little bit. Okay, I kind of understand that, 634 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.279 and I was like clinging to it like a barnacle 635 00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:20.799 aside the bar vessel, you know. And we got through 636 00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:24.519 it and they were happy, and the game did not 637 00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:29.319 do well. But later on they sent me a CD. 638 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.160 They said, hey, do you want to hear the soundtrack 639 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:34.079 of the thing, And then they had laid the orchestra 640 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.640 behind me, and when I played it, it was this 641 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.440 weird disconnect of like, when did I do this Broadway show? 642 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:41.279 Oh? 643 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.039 Yeah, because it's now everything. 644 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.880 Because you probably just were going with the melody a 645 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.240 very pane. 646 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:50.559 Anyway, So I came out to say, and I loved 647 00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:52.559 to sing, but I don't play these instruments. 648 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.480 To answer your question, yeah, the reason I asked was 649 00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.480 just because with impressions and from the people that we've 650 00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.279 talked to and had on this show, it seems like 651 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.920 you all have a really good ear and really good 652 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:03.519 at hearing your own voice. 653 00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:05.200 Yeah, and you're interested in that. 654 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.920 You're interested in the vibrations and in the pacing, and 655 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.359 then how much air is in it and the speed 656 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:14.160 and the velocity and all of the things that make 657 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:17.400 up an impression. You know, I think a lot I'm 658 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:23.240 sure you do this instinctively, Jims as an impressionist yourself, well, 659 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:24.160 like Sterling. 660 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:25.359 Holloway, a lot of air sure. 661 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.799 And also also there's a factor that I haven't heard 662 00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:32.759 anyone talk about before, which is kind of like pressure, 663 00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:39.119 how much pressure is it contained? And being you know, 664 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.960 modulated by the voice, you know, because we kind of 665 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.680 like we're kind of relaxed and we kind of let 666 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:45.279 things come out with. 667 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.440 Other people have I'm thinking of like Steven Spielberg kind 668 00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.240 of seems to have just a little bit of it's 669 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.160 a little bit under pressure a little bit and the 670 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.599 sound kind of comes out little little gusts. 671 00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.279 Yeah, and that's just something I listened for other people 672 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:00.400 are you know. 673 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:06.640 Like almost its like a big loose balloon. Yeah. Pat 674 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.519 Freeley pointed that out a long long time ago, and 675 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:15.440 it was he was quoting Dale Robertson, and Dale Robertson 676 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:22.079 was a fifties sixties cowboy actor and he would always 677 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:30.200 let me tell you it's another Western deal, you know, 678 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:33.480 and it was kind of like, Okay, what's exactly that 679 00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:34.640 get this guy at Tom's. 680 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.920 It's like it's a particular factor of the instrument. I mean, 681 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.880 we play this instrument. Yeah, that's right, our lungs in 682 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.799 our throat and the cavern of our mouth and changing 683 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.119 you know, the depth of it, and making the shalloon 684 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.039 and all of those things and pitch and rhythm, and. 685 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.000 It's just obviously we're interested. 686 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:56.519 You were interested since you were five. 687 00:33:56.839 --> 00:34:00.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was just basically just doing 688 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:06.519 impressions of everybody that I could. So that's what got 689 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:08.960 me going. And like I said I would, I would 690 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.639 do impressions of people that nobody knew, so new character. 691 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:15.880 And I'm sure you've done the. 692 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.440 Same, yeah, and hybridizing them yeah together. 693 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:22.159 Yeah. Yeah. What was your first gig in show business? 694 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.000 Did we touch on that? I mean, oh, like number. 695 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:35.039 One first paying gig was really nepotism perfect. Yeah. Yeah, 696 00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.280 I was on an episode of Happy Days and. 697 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.159 I don't remember all that must have been awful. 698 00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.639 I don't remember auditioning. I don't think. I think it 699 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.440 just got handed to me. Sure, And it's now all 700 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.119 these years later, it is. It is a famous episode 701 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.960 referred to on a daily basis. It is the jump 702 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.480 to shark episode, and I am a young man on 703 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.159 the beach that announces that there is, in fact sharks 704 00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:06.119 and I say, I think Ralph or Potzy comes out 705 00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.440 of the surf and says, what's going on? 706 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:09.199 What's going on? 707 00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.360 And I say, they got a shark out there. They 708 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:14.440 got to pend up until marine Land can come and 709 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:15.000 pick it up. 710 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.280 Exposition wow. And then if you unpack that, you sound 711 00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.360 just like you. Yeah, actually not much more like this. 712 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.639 I have much tighter but still look I'm in great 713 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.280 shape back then, seventeen years old on the beach with 714 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.599 Jerry Parris's son, the director's son is also in. 715 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:32.199 That scene with me. 716 00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:34.519 A lot of nepotism on that one, but that The 717 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.559 funny thing about that is funny or weird is that 718 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.360 people think, jump the shark. It's come to mean something. 719 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:42.360 What does it mean to you? Jump the shark? When 720 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:43.719 a show is jumped the shark. 721 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:47.480 Jump the shark? It means to me, I've always understood 722 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:51.239 it is we gotta do something. We gotta do something. 723 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.159 We're losing we're losing viewership here. 724 00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:54.920 We gotta. 725 00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:59.320 Got to jump the shark. Exactly exactly? Is that? Is that? 726 00:35:59.360 --> 00:35:59.400 What? 727 00:35:59.639 --> 00:35:59.800 Yeah? 728 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.159 That's that's definitely. I think one of the definitions of 729 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:03.840 it are one of the ways it's used. Another one 730 00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.519 is like, Wow, this show has outlived It's it's welcome, 731 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:11.119 it's over state, it's welcome, and they're resorting to stunt 732 00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:13.079 casting and bizarre things and we'll it's. 733 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:14.519 Do a musical version of the show of. 734 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.400 Swat and so that's the way I think of it. 735 00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.920 But weird thing is Happy Days a round eleven seasons. 736 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:28.599 That was the fifth season the jumped the Shark episode. Wow, 737 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:30.119 had it really jumped to Shark? 738 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:30.679 I don't know. 739 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.039 They still had a lot of mile lege ahead and 740 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:36.440 Ron was still on the show. He didn't leave until 741 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:38.599 season seven. 742 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.119 I think when did When did he he left? I 743 00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.719 don't even Yeah, yeah, that's direct. 744 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.480 Yeah, he always wanted to direct from a young age. 745 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:51.239 I mean he had it as an actor by the 746 00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.000 time he was probably yeah, Ron Howard by about eight nine, 747 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.280 he was like a lot other jobs I have here, 748 00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:57.719 that looks interesting. 749 00:36:58.559 --> 00:36:59.559 Oh, that's cool. 750 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.400 I've worked for Ron a few times, five of his 751 00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.199 films and yeah, very remarkable guy. 752 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:11.599 As it happens, I watched three Andy Griffiths yesterday. I 753 00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:16.519 just you know tvlan Oh, I watch this great show. 754 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:20.000 Oh yeah, done knuts? Oh God, did you ever work 755 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.679 with him? You must have no wood that I did. 756 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.280 I'm sure you haven't done nuts and I met him 757 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:25.719 one time. 758 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.599 Yeah, it's not when I specialized, I need to I 759 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.840 need to dig deep. 760 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:35.280 And how long how long does it take you, like 761 00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.800 when you hear a voice that you want to impersonate, 762 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.440 or how long does it take you to develop that sound? 763 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.800 You know, it's no set time. I mean everyone someone 764 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.519 some I'm still struggling with, you know, people like Alan 765 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:54.639 Rickman left a sort of back off myself. Really, it 766 00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:55.920 takes a lot of practice. 767 00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:01.440 It's really really good. Some I listened to. 768 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.400 I mean because my agent every day or every couple 769 00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.400 of days sends me something, can you sound like this person? 770 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.760 It's not always someone famous. It's often someone they're just 771 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.440 replacing in a little bit of a movie or a 772 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.400 TV show because there was some grinding sound or you 773 00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.880 know or yeah, yeah where he had flam or something 774 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.000 he had a cold. Yeah, And so I'll listen to 775 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.679 this person and usually within a few seconds I can go, Okay, 776 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.039 good age range. Yeah, you know, it's like a ven 777 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:29.760 diagram instantly forms of my mind. 778 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:30.519 Good age range. 779 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.480 I know that accent and I see what he's doing, uh, 780 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.400 you know, Or it's like oh no, he's twenty five. 781 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:38.119 Forget it. 782 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:41.400 Yeah, what are you even asking me for? 783 00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:42.840 It? Is human about that one? 784 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:43.119 Yeah? 785 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.079 Yeah, yeah, I don't even try that. Someone under forty. 786 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:47.679 I'm like, give me someone eighty. 787 00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:50.199 Yeah, I'm all over there. I can do it. Yeah, 788 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:50.840 and good show. 789 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:50.920 You. 790 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.400 Do you have favorites? Do you have favorite ones that 791 00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:53.920 you enjoyed? 792 00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:58.119 But I lately I really enjoy some pat because there's 793 00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.480 something about the whole persona. See, it's very very I mean, 794 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.440 if I could spend all day acting like this, I 795 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.840 think it would drive people in my family and saying, 796 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.079 but it would be very pleasant. 797 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.760 I just saw Beauty and the Beast yesterday, really, so 798 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.559 I just you know, it's one of those things comes 799 00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.280 on and go, I'm not in the damn thing, mind you, 800 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.840 but it was really good. Is he in it? Yeah, 801 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:26.599 he's he's the I think he's it's the clock, the 802 00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.280 live version, the live. 803 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.039 Live the did I see I don't think I've seen 804 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:31.679 the live version. 805 00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:32.199 Yeah. 806 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.119 So it's a live version of the animated version. 807 00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.119 Of the live Yes, yeah, yes, I think they have 808 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:36.800 a musical of it. 809 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.000 Yes, oh one. 810 00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.559 But yeah, I met David Ogden Steers one time and 811 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:49.360 he did the Cogsworth Yeah, I did too, and also yeah, 812 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.079 and I met him one time and I was like, 813 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.159 you know, I really admire what you do. You did 814 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.880 the narration in the beginning of The Beauty of the Beast, 815 00:39:58.360 --> 00:39:59.880 and right in the beginning of the show, it says, 816 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.639 and I said, you had this orchestral kind of delivery 817 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.280 because it went places, and he went, oh, that's very 818 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:08.719 nice of you. 819 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:11.000 Actually I'm an orchestra conductor. 820 00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:15.679 No kidding. Yeah. Well, so he was in and I 821 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:18.079 think I ran into him a couple of times, you know, 822 00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:22.719 I was in it, but yeah, the hell of a guy. Yeah. 823 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.599 Well, you remember very well the times when you and 824 00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.760 your cohorts and the big stars would all get together 825 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:31.960 in a big recording studio and do the show. 826 00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:37.119 That happens very infrequently. Now, yes it does. It's too good. Yeah, 827 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:41.039 and I don't like I never really did like it. 828 00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.599 And I don't even know I remember when that happened. 829 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:48.199 But yeah, like Chippendale Rescue Rangers, all the Disney Afternoon 830 00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:52.000 I was in all of the Disney Afternoon TV shows 831 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:56.559 and it started breaking up. Well when they got movie 832 00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:00.719 stars and you know, they can't what time is it? 833 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.519 You know, can't you can't get there, you know, so 834 00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:07.920 pick me up separately and then you know, but but 835 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:09.679 I did. Oh, I can tell you this story. I 836 00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:12.159 hope I'm not boring because I've said it before. But 837 00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:16.519 in Aladdin, I was in the Aladdins and Robin came 838 00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:18.880 back for the third one because the second one made money, 839 00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:21.880 and it was Dan Castlenetta doing the genie right, and 840 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.000 he didn't want to do a directive video, so he said, 841 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:27.599 oh no, not fantastic, and so he did first one, 842 00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:29.320 not the second one, but he came back for the 843 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:33.679 third one. And there's this scene in which my charactersul I. 844 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.280 Was the big guard who you know, pred says, you 845 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:38.880 will have to take it up with you far I 846 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.679 was that guy, and and he decides he snaps his 847 00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.880 fingers and he's a prosecuting attorney and I'm the witness 848 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.440 in the in the standard, he's going, so where were 849 00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:49.079 you on the night? 850 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.159 You know this? And that? And and I had lived 851 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.480 something and they kept it and but then his line 852 00:41:54.519 --> 00:42:00.559 didn't work, so he had to come back in and 853 00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:03.559 do it again, and then we redid it again, and 854 00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.079 then something happened something He goes, well, I'm sorry, but 855 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.480 I will not be upstaged by a tertiary character. And 856 00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.920 he reached down and grabbed my toes and rolled me 857 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:16.599 up like a blind poofed me off into oblivion and 858 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:18.760 was never to be heard from again. 859 00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:19.400 Oh my god. 860 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:21.880 So I get to say that I was personally dissed. 861 00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:27.320 You are evaporated, You were vaporized? Yes, yes, feel free 862 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:32.599 to applaud. Yeah. Not everyone can say that Robin Williams 863 00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:33.400 gave them the finger. 864 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:40.559 Generally has a pretty good reputation. I've been doing the 865 00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:45.760 Blue Genie for a long time, after Dan, after after Dan, 866 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.000 and after Robin, but before Robin passed, but after Robin started. 867 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:53.239 Doing Yes, yes, yes, Oh man, have you ever done 868 00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:54.559 a Simpsons? Just curious? 869 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:57.960 No, never done a Simpsons? Yeah, never done a Star 870 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.760 Wars thing? Hm, not that, not that I notice. 871 00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:06.280 Yeah, yeah, not that I would have. Yeah, okay, if 872 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:07.440 they call it, I don't know if I have taby. 873 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.159 I really am kind of busy. 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So go 878 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.840 ahead and join the tuned in family today at Patreon 879 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.639 dot com, slash Jim Cummings podcast Do it Now, it's 880 00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.719 QUI impression impressions. 881 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:40.920 You want to tell us about that? 882 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.559 Oh sure, well let's see every now. 883 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:46.760 And then I put up a one man show because uh, 884 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:49.760 it's been a successful thing for me. 885 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:52.079 To just freaking thousands, why not cast. 886 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.639 A freaking thousands and people like it, and yeah, I 887 00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:57.679 can do it cheaply, and my wife has a theater, 888 00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:59.159 I can put it up there. And I did it 889 00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:03.800 at the Gary Marshall Theater last September in honor partially 890 00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:06.559 of the fiftieth anniversary of Happy Days. So it was 891 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:08.280 a good mixture, and I kind of leaned into my 892 00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:13.400 Happy Days experience. I told the story of you know, 893 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.400 jumping the shop in the show and being around that 894 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.039 show and being around that set and those people from 895 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.719 a very early age, and kind of it was an 896 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.519 unusual time and so I. 897 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:24.599 Had a unique perspective. 898 00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:28.960 And then I also, yeah, sing I do musical numbers, 899 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:34.440 which I've created with my keyboardist, Noah Sunday Lefkowitz and 900 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:40.280 did some audience interactive stuff. And you know, I've been 901 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.920 doing one man shows here and there since the early eighties, 902 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.239 and I like the challenge. It's super fun. People seem 903 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:55.000 to like it. It's not hugely lucrative or popular. I've 904 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:56.039 never done a tour. 905 00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:57.480 But it sounds like you really enjoy it. 906 00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:59.400 I do, and it kind of gets it kind of 907 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:05.360 you know, actors, especially ones that aren't maybe as fabulously successful, 908 00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.039 and congratulations him on your career. 909 00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:08.480 It's just inspirational. 910 00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.639 But for the workaday actor who's still trying to struggling 911 00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:17.880 to break in, I really count myself among you need 912 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.719 to sometimes convince yourself of what it is you do 913 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.840 that's good and can be appreciated. And I find that 914 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.559 if I can, if I do a one man show, 915 00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.239 I kind of get it. I go, Okay, I see 916 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.320 I see the reaction. I see that people like this. 917 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:31.519 Yeah, it is. 918 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:35.679 Part of what I'm here to do, and I can always. 919 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.280 There's really no excuse to not do it every now 920 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:41.880 and then. So yeah, I put it up and I've 921 00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.480 got a fairly nice video of it now too. If 922 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:48.760 anybody's interested, they can go to Jimskimon dot com contact 923 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.960 me there and I will send you the private. 924 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:53.960 Link absolutely free. Oh there you watch it. 925 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:58.480 And yeah, it's like I said, I've done a lot 926 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.639 of different things. I am very just didn't being a 927 00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.079 TV and film actor, and I continue to pursue that 928 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.519 very avidly. Uh, but I am aware that I have 929 00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:11.920 this skill. I worked on a Landman with Billy Bob Thornton, 930 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:17.159 uh the season finale of that show, and uh, you know, 931 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:17.480 and I. 932 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:19.519 Went, I was like, God, what's Billy Bob Thorny gonna 933 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:19.760 be like? 934 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.199 And ye what was he like? Well? He was he 935 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:22.639 was cool. 936 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:24.840 I actually had a really good time with him. So 937 00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.760 he as the star of that show obviously, and we 938 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:31.800 were filming in a hospital, a real hospital in fort Worth, 939 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.719 and his his sort of assistant guy who's not bodyguard, 940 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.880 but you know, his major domo who is also used 941 00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.519 to be Axel Rose's assistant, uh, taking care of him. 942 00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:49.079 And he said, Bill Bob said, yeah, same same kind 943 00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:49.679 of group of rocker. 944 00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:51.559 Uh. He said, Uh. 945 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:53.559 Billy Bob said you can hang out with him if 946 00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:56.760 you want, in his room and I'm like, okay, so 947 00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:59.639 I go in and Billy Webb says, so, uh, I'll 948 00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:00.800 hear you do impressions. 949 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:05.719 All right, we're gonna get along. We're gonna get exactly 950 00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:06.239 what he said. 951 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.480 So I dragged out all my funny, weird, kind of 952 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:10.920 old movie impressions. 953 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:13.679 Yeah, like Burgess Murders. You know, I feel like that. 954 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:18.360 I told you to my body, the body. 955 00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:18.519 And it was great. 956 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:21.840 And he's I respect him as an actor a lot. 957 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.760 I really like his. 958 00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.599 Genuineness and authenticity, reality and subtlety and all that stuff. 959 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.119 You know. It was interesting because his first big splash 960 00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.800 was sling Blade, right, and he he and he successfully 961 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:42.920 avoided the James Woods syndrome because James Wood's first big 962 00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:47.119 movie was what was it? The movie where he played 963 00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:51.599 a horrible, incredible, murdering killer type person. Yeah, and people 964 00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.800 didn't want him. And I remember Cisco and Eber going, well, 965 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:56.960 this guy is incredible. He's blah blah blah blah. But 966 00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.559 he's I understand he's struggling a bit together next role 967 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.039 because people are going, nobody wants him in my office. 968 00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:05.000 I don't want I don't want him in my office. 969 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:09.400 And you know, and so you know, I think he 970 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:14.079 successfully avoid that quick aside. Billy Bob Thornton was my 971 00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.559 dad in a cartoon. 972 00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:18.360 Oh my god, cat Dog. 973 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:24.360 He was cat Dog and I'm kidding. Yeah, now you 974 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:25.320 can see the resemblance. 975 00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.440 So, yeah, it's in the Caroline. 976 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.480 I think who else would it have been? Yeah? That 977 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.559 was that was my one little He's quite a singer too. 978 00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:34.719 You know. 979 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.440 He's got a band, the box Masters. Yeah, they tour around. 980 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.480 He thinks, he told me that he thinks of himself 981 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.280 more as a musician who acts, no kid, but he's 982 00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:43.320 really good at both. 983 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:44.039 Yeah. 984 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:47.119 Yeah, yeah, we're not worried about him. Not worried about 985 00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:47.840 Billy Bob. 986 00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:52.239 They call him Bud, the group does anyway, calls him Bud, 987 00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:53.320 Bud Bud. 988 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.119 So next time you see him, folks, you're in the 989 00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:56.719 inner circle. 990 00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:04.599 That's right, Hey, Bud. Yeah, Why who the hell are you? 991 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:09.159 I get that a lot. Who the hell are you? 992 00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:13.440 Who do you think you are? I think I'm mister lucky. 993 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.119 I wanted to ask you about growing up with a 994 00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.800 parent that's on TV and a celebrity. What what was 995 00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.639 that experience like growing up because I had a similar experience, 996 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:24.679 not to the same degree, but my dad was an 997 00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.199 actor and on TV and me personally, and we've had 998 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.480 a few other other actors on this podcast who have had, 999 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.599 you know, famous parents or whatnot, can continued on their legacy, 1000 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.559 so to speak. But I want to ask you did 1001 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:40.960 you feel pressure at all? Was there pressure to be 1002 00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:41.639 an artist? 1003 00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:42.079 Was there? 1004 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:43.800 I know your I heard you say that your mom 1005 00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:45.960 encouraged you to be artistic, But did you feel any 1006 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.320 pressure did you feel just what was that upbringing? 1007 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:50.800 Like with that dynamics? 1008 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.000 As you know from your own experience, there's something special 1009 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.199 about having a parent who's on TV, even if they're 1010 00:49:55.239 --> 00:50:00.000 just the guy you know, sure make Tag repairman. Yeah, 1011 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.559 there's there's an ascension that seems to happen. It is 1012 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.000 almost as if this person who you know we see 1013 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.280 every day has entered a new universe and they've somehow 1014 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.679 made it into through this membrane. 1015 00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.920 Of into this other world. And you're like, oh, you 1016 00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.719 must be. You're a little immortal. You've got some immortality. 1017 00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.320 You know that you've you've achieved. 1018 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.920 So before she was a famous person, she was always 1019 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.760 a working actress in my youth. And uh, but for 1020 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:29.679 grown up shows that I didn't watch, you know, like 1021 00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.079 Mission Impossible Side and yeah, yeah, you know, occasionally I 1022 00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:37.960 think she did an episode of the Brady Bunch and uh, 1023 00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:41.480 but so I felt a little bit special there, but 1024 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:45.480 we were pretty broke, so I didn't feel tremendously entitled. 1025 00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:51.320 But when Happy Days was a situation where the show 1026 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.079 had a very very slow ramp to fame. Really yeah, 1027 00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.800 very very slow, in fact, bizarrely slow, almost so slow. 1028 00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:02.239 That wouldn't have happened because they did the pilot. 1029 00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:04.920 Gary Marshall writes about this in his book He's Got 1030 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.719 a wonderful book called Wake Me when It's Funny, and 1031 00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:09.000 he wrote that they. 1032 00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:09.559 Did the pilot. 1033 00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:13.280 We did the pilot for Happy Days, and it didn't sell. 1034 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.719 ABC didn't buy it, so they put it on the 1035 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:20.920 shelf at Paramount and they let it sit there. Then 1036 00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:27.960 at the same time, George Lucas, the filmmaker named George Lucas, 1037 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:33.280 asks the casting director, you know, do you have any 1038 00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:35.480 footage of Ron Howard in a kind. 1039 00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:39.480 Of a fifties look for this movie? And they sent 1040 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:42.760 him the Happy Days pilot and he looked at that 1041 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.159 and he went, oh, I'll put Ron Howard in American graffiti. 1042 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:46.840 American graffiti. 1043 00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.679 Then, I mean there's a lot of time involved, right, 1044 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.840 So it's the casting American Graffiti shooting American graffiti, releasing 1045 00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:57.400 American Graffiti, it becomes a hit. Then Michael Eisner at 1046 00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.519 the time went, don't we have a pilot with Ron 1047 00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.199 Howard in the fifties sitting on the shelf, And they 1048 00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:04.519 dragged it out and they put it on the air, 1049 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:09.360 and then it became popular, but not crazy popular. It 1050 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:10.840 was still one camera. 1051 00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:12.599 And Phonsie had a great coat. 1052 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:15.280 Fonzie had like a wind breaker, a wind breaker. Yeah, 1053 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.039 I didn't have a didn't have a leather jacket. There 1054 00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:19.400 was a lot of talk about that. Yeah, and like 1055 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:23.039 should he be a hoodlum? Is that's the point he hoodlum? 1056 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.440 You know? Yeah? 1057 00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:30.000 And so and then when they went a multiicam in 1058 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.880 about season three, then it became a hit. 1059 00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:35.719 So it was this slow ramp up. 1060 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:39.199 So my mom was like, from my viewpoint, it's like, oh, 1061 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.199 mom has a job, she got a pilot. No, it 1062 00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:45.800 didn't sell. Oh well, uh, now she's looking for it. 1063 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.880 Now she's doing commercials and she's doing whatever, and you know, 1064 00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:51.719 we don't we don't have a lot of dough and uh. 1065 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:55.039 And then then oh, well they're going to put it 1066 00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:56.760 back on the air. Oh they are. 1067 00:52:57.079 --> 00:52:59.280 And then it's a little series like, oh, oh, that's nice, 1068 00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.039 but she's not making the money. First of all, the 1069 00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:06.320 women didn't make what the men were making anyway, she 1070 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:06.800 didn't make. 1071 00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:07.599 What Tom was making. 1072 00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.880 Tom Bosley he was making three times what Marian made. 1073 00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:11.599 Well. 1074 00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:16.840 Yeah, and then it built and she began to actually 1075 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:17.920 be popular. 1076 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:18.679 It was a hit. 1077 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.079 And then then we started being able to go. I 1078 00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:24.760 think she could relax as a parent and as a breadwinner. 1079 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.920 And I think there was a certain point five or 1080 00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.519 six years in where her accountant said, you should spend 1081 00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.559 some money. Yeah, yeah, you're losing the money in the 1082 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.400 bank and you're losing opportunity to And then and then 1083 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:41.519 she started adopting. I noticed this kind of not avariciousness 1084 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:44.880 or anything, but but she got a little looser, and 1085 00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.320 she would buy things just because she liked them, you know, 1086 00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.239 she would. And then she would buy things that she 1087 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.159 really should have like shopped on a little bit more, 1088 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:56.320 but she could have got a better deal, but you 1089 00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:57.239 know what, she liked them. 1090 00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.039 She would go in and buy. 1091 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:02.159 A car off the showroom floor, for example, Oh boy, things. 1092 00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.400 Like that, because she could, because she could, and there 1093 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:08.239 was absolutely no negative effect at all. Yep. So yeah, 1094 00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:10.400 that'd be tough one to find a negative in that. 1095 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:13.840 But for me, you're asking about mymy was it weird 1096 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.599 where their pressures? I was confused by it all because 1097 00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.119 it messed with me a bit because once the show 1098 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:24.679 got really popular, there was just tremendous attention on those 1099 00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:27.760 people that show My Mom and it had nothing to 1100 00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:28.119 do with me. 1101 00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:30.639 Yeah, didn't make you want to do the same thing 1102 00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:30.960 I want? 1103 00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.320 Who would not want that attention? Were so close by? 1104 00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:35.280 It was like, sure, it would be like there's a 1105 00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.199 there's a conveyor belt full of gold coins going by. 1106 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so close. I can I go get something? 1107 00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:42.440 You didn't want to be Pete Best? 1108 00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.400 No, I didn't want to be the best Pete Worst. 1109 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:46.719 I wanted to Yeah. 1110 00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:50.199 But and but I didn't understand my own attraction to 1111 00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:51.719 it either. It was a little bit suspicious, a little 1112 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:53.760 bit insecure about I was like, is it because I 1113 00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:57.000 love acting or is it because I want the attention? 1114 00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:59.239 And it took me a long time to resolve that. 1115 00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:01.760 Well, it's kind of a little both, huh. And it's 1116 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:02.920 a little both for sure. 1117 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:04.840 Yeah, But it took me a lot to get to 1118 00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.320 make my peace with it. And actually pursue acting took 1119 00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:10.280 a long time because I also really wanted to draw paint, 1120 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.719 and I went to school for that, and I studied 1121 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.719 and went to Spain and studied painting. 1122 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.320 And about your time in Spain, what was the what was. 1123 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.719 The Yeah, I was studying. 1124 00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:25.360 I went to Santa Cruz University, California University, and I 1125 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:28.960 met a Spanish artist was a visiting artist there, and 1126 00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:33.559 he was he was a real really stood out he 1127 00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:36.159 was at that school at that time, and probably a 1128 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:37.400 lot of the schools. 1129 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:38.280 They were painting. 1130 00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:39.639 If you wanted to learn how to be a painter, 1131 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:42.320 you wanted to be and they wanted to teach you 1132 00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:44.280 how to be an abstract expressionist. 1133 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:46.199 You splash paint. 1134 00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:50.400 You technique was nothing, you know, it's all about talking 1135 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:53.000 about it was much more important than doing anything. 1136 00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:55.280 It was like if you could talk. 1137 00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:56.760 For an hour about a painting, you were you were 1138 00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:01.039 cock of the walk. But my friend Gel, who later 1139 00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:03.199 became my mentor, was a guy whose class I got 1140 00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:05.880 stuck into. Because I couldn't get into this popular guy's class. 1141 00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:07.239 They said, you're going to go to Michael's class. 1142 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:08.599 And I went, okay, And I. 1143 00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:09.559 Go to Micgel's class. 1144 00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:14.639 And he is a classically trained Spanish beis Arte's painter. 1145 00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.639 The guy had been looking for all my life. Mmm, 1146 00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:19.280 so it was a lucky break. 1147 00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:24.000 Wow he started talking. I went, holy crap, I'm in 1148 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:25.400 the right place. Yeah. 1149 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.159 And I studied with him for three years. He invited 1150 00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:27.719 me to go to Spain. 1151 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.320 I went a couple of times in Spain, studied old 1152 00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:36.119 master techniques, learned everything really well, a lot of the fundamentals. 1153 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.360 I mean, it's a lifetime thing, really. But I learned 1154 00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:41.440 enough to be a painter. I did not learn how 1155 00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:43.760 to make a living as a painter. I did not learn, 1156 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:46.320 but I was interested. 1157 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:48.159 I tried to. But were you the guy with the palette? 1158 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:49.480 You had the. 1159 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:53.119 Whole palette, the beard, Yeah, there you go, the stains 1160 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.360 on the sho you almost have a beret on now, 1161 00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.679 So that's a guy. I wear a beret when I can. Yeah, 1162 00:56:57.800 --> 00:56:59.199 absolutely still wear a beret. 1163 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:01.639 And they wore them in Spain. 1164 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:05.360 It's a very European thing, and I'm so grateful for 1165 00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:06.119 that time. 1166 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:08.320 It was very arduous. You know. 1167 00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:13.920 Anytime you studied anything to a classical degree, singing, musical instruments, painting, 1168 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:19.280 freaking ballet, whatever you learn so much about existence. 1169 00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.039 How to make this do that. 1170 00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:24.199 You know, how to make your hand do something, how 1171 00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:27.679 to make your voice do something, your diaphragm do something 1172 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:28.880 it's not natural. 1173 00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.639 You know, your ankles dance in a way. 1174 00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.000 You know your toes do shit that it shouldn't be doing, 1175 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.320 and that that you carry with you your whole life. 1176 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:39.360 I think, and it informs everything. 1177 00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:43.239 Whether you actually do it. Very few people do, I'm sure. 1178 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:45.639 I mean, all the people I knew that were studying painting, 1179 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:48.880 very few of them actually do it, but they learned 1180 00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:52.960 no kidding, yeah, wow, because it's it's like voice over. 1181 00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:54.400 I mean, how many people I was thinking about this 1182 00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:56.440 on the way over. I'm sure you get this all 1183 00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:58.159 the time too, at comic cons and things, and people 1184 00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:01.480 saying I'm really interested in being voice actor. Oh oh, 1185 00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:03.559 And they ask you questions and you give them advice 1186 00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.920 and stuff. Thousands of people because they look at it 1187 00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:10.119 and they go, I have an affinity for that. I 1188 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:13.760 think that activity is beautiful. I like that language, I 1189 00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:15.840 like those images. I like you know, there's all these 1190 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.960 things I like about it, and I like that part 1191 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:20.800 of the culture. It's sort of safe and kind of 1192 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:24.559 fun and kind of everybody wins and it's colorful. Yeah, 1193 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.239 and I remember it for my childhood and they got 1194 00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:28.039 all these reasons why they love it, and they think 1195 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.599 and I can kind of do some funny voices. 1196 00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:34.920 Yeah, but yeah, will you pursue it? 1197 00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:36.199 You know, that's the question. 1198 00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.480 And how many people actually do you know of the 1199 00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:41.639 people that we've talked to just casually at comic cons, 1200 00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:44.639 A very small percentage of people actually, And you're surprised, 1201 00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:46.480 aren't you when someone says, well, you know what, I 1202 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.199 got a job and now I'm on this show. You're 1203 00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:52.119 like you are, Yeah, you actually followed my advice. 1204 00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.719 Yeah, there was a gosh about eight ten months ago, 1205 00:58:57.119 --> 00:59:00.400 I was at a comic con you met remember this? 1206 00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:01.119 I remember this? 1207 00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:07.519 Yeah yeah and those yeah yeah, and uh a young 1208 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:11.079 man and he had a table next to mine, and hey, 1209 00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:13.800 it's had a pretty nice crowd of folks that came up. 1210 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:18.519 Anime is a big deal, you know. Yeah, I'm it's 1211 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.599 it's not my thing. You're in that world a little bit, though, right, 1212 00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.800 But I am that Yeah. Well I think I did 1213 00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:28.079 like two enough things. But but I'm milk. I'll get 1214 00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:30.199 under that cow and milk it. Believe me. You know, 1215 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:33.559 halfway through the day or like from Friday Saturday. He goes, 1216 00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:38.480 he said, you know, and he was so shy. It 1217 00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:41.480 was such a sweet kid, you know. I say, kiddy, 1218 00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:45.199 you know twice and he said, I just can't believe 1219 00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.079 that I'm getting to be here with like next to you, 1220 00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.840 and I go, hey, man, I'm happy to be here 1221 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:55.199 next to you too. He goes, well, yeah, and I anyway, 1222 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:58.159 you told me what to do and I said, what's that? 1223 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:02.760 He goes, do, Yeah, you know you would never remember this, 1224 01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:07.360 but but you told me that you know, it doesn't anything, 1225 01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.719 you don't nothing to it, but to do it, and 1226 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:13.920 that you did impressions of your aunts and uncles and 1227 01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:19.320 the guy who ran the corner store and everything. And anyway, 1228 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.840 I kind of did that, you know. And then I 1229 01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:24.639 got this anime job and everybody likes it, and he's 1230 01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:26.440 showing me this character I don't know who the hell is, 1231 01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:30.280 and it was so gratifying. It was so sweet because 1232 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:33.519 he said that that I helped him get into the business. 1233 01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:35.480 Didn't you have like a sign picture from you back 1234 01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.960 in the day too? I swear he brought like the 1235 01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:41.119 autograph from the conversation and he was like, you signed 1236 01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:42.159 this for me and I did it. 1237 01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:42.440 Yeah. 1238 01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:46.159 Yeah, And then he went off and and and did it, 1239 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.719 you know, and I gave him here's my little advice. 1240 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.159 I don't think we covered this, but you know, if 1241 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:55.519 you do a perfect impression of somebody, that's gold. I mean, 1242 01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:57.320 because you never know when you can use that I'm 1243 01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.119 famous person. And if you do a terrible impression I'm 1244 01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.960 a famous person that nobody knows who the hell you're doing. 1245 01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:05.280 You know, you think it's the greatest job Wayne in 1246 01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.599 the world, and they think it's you know, Fred Flint's. 1247 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.760 They don't even that's a new character. And then if 1248 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.880 you do a perfect compression of someone nobody knows, like 1249 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:17.480 my aunt Grace and uncle, say God bless them. Those 1250 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:20.760 are new characters. And so there's a lot of ways, 1251 01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.199 a lot of things you a lot of they're free 1252 01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.280 arrows in your quiver. Yeah, you know, yeah, and you 1253 01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:29.119 never know when you get to fire them. Yeah, that's 1254 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.960 I totally agree. And and but that's an example. 1255 01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:34.880 Of the you know, the the outlier, the guy that 1256 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:38.400 actually had the gumption to to do what you recommend it. 1257 01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:43.199 Yeah, and doing it helps you know, saying you're going 1258 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.239 to do it, and and how many times have you 1259 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.920 been signing an autograph or doing this or that? And 1260 01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.119 they go, you know, I I'm going to get into that. 1261 01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:51.679 I'm going to do it. 1262 01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:56.480 Yes too. Oh yeah yeah, I said, so what are 1263 01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:58.039 you doing? Have been in place? What do you mean? 1264 01:01:58.320 --> 01:01:58.480 No? 1265 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.400 No, no, no, I want to do I go, okay, 1266 01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:05.719 well I was in a freaking hundred plays as a kid. 1267 01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:11.119 He goes, ooh, do you have to do that? And 1268 01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:16.559 I go, can't hurt you know? Yeah? Yeah? And I 1269 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.320 and Jess are now. I give him credit every time 1270 01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:21.159 he says, if you want to be a voice actor, 1271 01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:23.880 what you have to remember that it's a small V 1272 01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:25.239 but a capital A. 1273 01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:26.519 Yeah. 1274 01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:30.719 Great, great, So that's just knows. Yeah, just he knows 1275 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.119 and he would know. Yeah, and uh so you guys 1276 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:37.480 should be carving that into stone by the way out there. 1277 01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.519 But yeah, it's it's it's a curious thing. It's a 1278 01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:45.559 curious thing. If you're a fan of everything we do 1279 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:48.599 here at tuned In with Jim Cummings, you could support 1280 01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:53.039 the show on Patreon for bonus exclusive podcasts, as well 1281 01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:56.480 as early in ad free access to the show itself, 1282 01:02:56.760 --> 01:03:00.480 prize drawings, and more. You'll feel the difference. So go 1283 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:04.000 ahead and join the tuned in family today at Patreon 1284 01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:09.840 dot com, Slash Jim Cummings podcast Do It Now. And 1285 01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:13.440 I think the younger you are that you, because I'm 1286 01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.960 sure you had this bug at an early age. The 1287 01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:20.079 younger you are when you decide, you know, the longer 1288 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:22.199 you have to aim at the target, the more true 1289 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.280 your arrow shall be. I think I. 1290 01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:31.840 Rarely right, Okay, But when you first started to say that, 1291 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:34.320 similarly though, I thought about, you know, if you draw 1292 01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:39.079 the long bow and you don't release, it's not fewer 1293 01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:40.800 times it's going to hit the target, but it could 1294 01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:41.679 shoot a lot of arrows. 1295 01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:41.920 Yeah. 1296 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:42.719 Absolutely, Yeah. 1297 01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:46.760 I think you you just you learn about you, learn 1298 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:48.800 about you, You learn about the art form, you learn 1299 01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:49.679 about people's reaction. 1300 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:51.960 What you're doing is just learning, learning, learning. 1301 01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:53.719 I think it's fair to say that with your career 1302 01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:55.599 you shot a lot of arrows. I mean, just doing 1303 01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:58.519 my research on you, I couldn't believe how many different 1304 01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.159 projects you've been on and so many different meetings, you know, 1305 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:06.400 voiceover on screen, all these different ventures. And one thing 1306 01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:08.639 that I was thinking about just I played sports my 1307 01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:11.320 whole life. I played football up until a professional level. 1308 01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:14.199 And it just kind of reminded me, seeing your career 1309 01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:17.880 and your credits of like how most people don't know 1310 01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:22.000 ninety nine percent of the players in the NFL. You know, 1311 01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:25.039 you know, you're Tom Brady's you know, you know Reggie Bush, 1312 01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:27.920 you know, like these big celebrity names. But I mean 1313 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.400 there's sixty five players on every team and some of 1314 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.559 these players have fifteen twenty year careers. You know, It's 1315 01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.280 it's rare, but they exist and nobody knows their name, 1316 01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:39.440 and it's just it brought a question up into my mind, 1317 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:42.440 and like what keeps you I'm not please don't take 1318 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:44.199 this like I'm trying to like say like. 1319 01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:45.400 You know, dare you? 1320 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:46.559 Yeah? 1321 01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:48.719 No, But I want to know what because as an 1322 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:50.760 actor myself, you know who has like little day player 1323 01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:53.239 credits here and there? Like what keeps you going? Like 1324 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:56.000 what keeps you coming back and keep pursuing and keep 1325 01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:00.639 pursuing and going and going debt? Actually, but there's got 1326 01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:02.800 to be some there's got to be like a more 1327 01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:05.239 serious like drive to it, because it's it's hard. 1328 01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:06.400 I mean, I know it's hard. 1329 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:08.559 You know, to generate interests, you have to have you 1330 01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:11.679 have to be interested. And it's true that after decades 1331 01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.199 and decades and sometimes bang your head against the wall, 1332 01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.880 your interest wanes and you go, what else is there 1333 01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:20.679 to do? And I'm guilty of doing that a few times. 1334 01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:26.199 But I find that you that interest is within our control. 1335 01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:30.400 We can get interested, we can develop interest, and I 1336 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:31.960 try to do that is part of the reason why 1337 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:33.039 I do the Impression show. 1338 01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:33.440 I have to. 1339 01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.199 I have to forces me to get interested in like 1340 01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:37.360 what will audiences? 1341 01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:38.119 Like? 1342 01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:39.519 What should I do? 1343 01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:40.840 What can I do? 1344 01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:41.199 You know? 1345 01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:43.360 What are my resources? And usually your mind starts to 1346 01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:47.760 work on it. And when I watch TV, I watched 1347 01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:48.440 TV TV. 1348 01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:48.719 I don't. 1349 01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:52.320 My wife and I watch TV together mostly uh, And 1350 01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:56.199 it's mostly what she wants to watch because that's marriage 1351 01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:59.360 happy write, which is fine, she likes, she has good tastes. 1352 01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.639 But when I watch TV, I realized I watched TV 1353 01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:05.679 somewhat differently than she does. I am dissecting it and 1354 01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:07.679 I am looking at the actor and I'm watching what 1355 01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:10.639 the actor does, and I'm. 1356 01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:14.239 Very rarely carried away and like, well, what a great 1357 01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:14.840 story that was? 1358 01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.480 You know, I've just seen so much TV in so 1359 01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:20.760 many films that I'm looking at, Wow, how he held 1360 01:06:20.760 --> 01:06:24.199 his hands, and my wife is just kind of absorbing 1361 01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:26.159 it and enjoying it and having a great time doing 1362 01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:28.599 it the right way, and I'm doing it the bullshit 1363 01:06:28.639 --> 01:06:32.079 way of just like kind of like studying and thinking, 1364 01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:36.320 thinking about the voice, thinking about all kinds of stuff 1365 01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:36.960 that doesn't. 1366 01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:37.199 Really have much. 1367 01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:39.079 And if you ask me, the restory was, yeah, it's 1368 01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:42.079 research it for me. It's like my excuse is that 1369 01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:43.679 I'm researching things. 1370 01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:45.760 Do you enjoy the housewives of fill in the blank 1371 01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:51.199 as much as I don't will anything about any one 1372 01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:54.360 of them? And unfortunately I know about all of them. 1373 01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:01.000 My wife likes to watch British you know, detective shows 1374 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.280 where it's a small town and the Vickers involved somehow 1375 01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:05.880 and oh yes, all things. 1376 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:06.840 And there's one. 1377 01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:10.440 That Anne, there's a there's an there's one called called 1378 01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:13.480 the Midwife, which is all about babies and being born 1379 01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:16.400 and nuns. And you know, I think my wife really 1380 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:18.679 wants to live in England, and so she'll go there, 1381 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.800 you know, every couple of nights. And I like the 1382 01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:25.239 British show and like little bit I don't know that 1383 01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:30.920 kind of yeah, yeah, but uh, you know, but I'll 1384 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:34.039 watch We've been lately watching the films of Mike Lee. 1385 01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:37.559 If you watched Mike Lee films, British film director, Oh 1386 01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:40.440 my god, he's fantastic director. He's a director and he 1387 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:45.639 creates movies in a completely bizarre way. Uh, they are fantastic. 1388 01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:48.079 The best British actors all are dying to get into 1389 01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:52.280 Mike Lee. He's like a Woody Allen without the comedy. Uh. 1390 01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:54.719 In terms of out who wants to be in his 1391 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:57.280 movies and who will work for scale and and you 1392 01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:59.840 know a great personal risk. They will be in Mike 1393 01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:02.159 lead films and I we like those a lot. 1394 01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:08.480 Well, I'll have to send my real to him and 1395 01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:11.480 then not get hired. I can't wait to not get 1396 01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:13.440 hired by this day. Mike Lee. 1397 01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:17.000 Okay, all right, we talked about it briefly before the podcast, 1398 01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:19.560 but I want the viewers to hear your story about 1399 01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:20.800 becoming the Colonel. 1400 01:08:21.319 --> 01:08:25.359 Oh yeah, well I did Colonel Shanders for about you 1401 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:29.279 have Years for Okay, Outfit and mighty nine bunch of people. 1402 01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:34.000 I love the Colonel characters so much because he's just 1403 01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:36.479 so full of beans and so such a throwback. 1404 01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:41.800 Yes, yes, and so this was a I'm getting one 1405 01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:46.560 of those things some reason I really want something. 1406 01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:50.159 So I was doing what I do when I want 1407 01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:52.119 to get work, and I was just looking through my 1408 01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:53.960 U I used to look through a Rollodex. Now I 1409 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.880 looked through my emails from two years ago, three years ago. 1410 01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:59.239 Who haven't I talked to for a while? And I've 1411 01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:02.479 came across this guy who was a copywriter. I'd done 1412 01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:07.640 a ill fated voiceover campaign for Sony. I'd say ill 1413 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.359 fated because I did like three big voiceovers for a 1414 01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:13.760 TV campaign and then like the week that it was released, 1415 01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:18.039 Sony had some sort of huge debacle and suddenly went, oh, 1416 01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:20.199 we don't want to talk about ourselves anymore, so we 1417 01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:21.199 took it all off the air. 1418 01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:22.000 It was the hack. 1419 01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:24.079 It was the hack. It was the Sony hack. 1420 01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:28.239 Yeah, yeah, I think, And anyway, so that went away. 1421 01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:30.960 But I had met this copywriter who wrote the copy 1422 01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:34.880 and so I wrote him. I said, how are you, Devin, 1423 01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:36.880 And he said I'm good. By the way, how's your 1424 01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:41.159 Colonel Sanders? And I went, well, it's pretty often good, yeah, 1425 01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:44.439 because I can hear Colonel Sanders. I mean I was 1426 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:44.920 a child. 1427 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.319 I remember that. You know, don't forget your grandfather's overcoat. 1428 01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:51.720 That was in the recipe. Remember that. 1429 01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:53.319 I don't remember that. That's so funny. 1430 01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:57.079 They were trying to get him give us the secret recipe, 1431 01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:01.680 and he said, well it is, Oh forget your grandfather's overcoat. 1432 01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:07.199 He really put it one over on them, you Randy Chap, Yeah, 1433 01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.000 yeah exactly. So I sent him. 1434 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.359 I sent him a demo and then he liked that, 1435 01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:16.439 and I sent him another demo. I had auditioned for 1436 01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:21.600 the colonel physically for an earlier campaign, like a year prior, 1437 01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.399 and I'd done the voice and that was yeah for 1438 01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:24.880 on camera. 1439 01:10:24.880 --> 01:10:25.520 They were looking for it. 1440 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:27.239 They were looking for a colonel at that point, and 1441 01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.239 I was like, I don't even know why, why should 1442 01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:32.800 bother go on? This not really the right type. But 1443 01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:35.039 I went and they were like, you know, there may 1444 01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:38.239 be a world where we use your voice. And so 1445 01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.680 I knew then that like, wow, okay, I think I 1446 01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:43.760 sound like him, and they think, more importantly, they think 1447 01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:44.520 I say like him. 1448 01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:46.479 So that was established in my mind. 1449 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:48.840 So when my friend Devin said, how's your colonel Sanators, 1450 01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:52.239 I went, you know, it's it's surveyed out rather well, 1451 01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:53.640 So I sent him a demo. 1452 01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:54.800 You sent him another demo. 1453 01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:58.319 They hired me to do a demo, so now now 1454 01:10:58.359 --> 01:11:01.279 the flow is reversed and I'm making money. And then 1455 01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:04.319 they hired me to do a voiceover, and then another 1456 01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:08.159 and another for seven years, and I had a lot 1457 01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:11.399 of fun because I took that character and made my 1458 01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.279 own content with the colonel quite a bit. I would 1459 01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.520 do these because they didn't care. They didn't care at all, 1460 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:22.119 nobody I have a YouTube channel and I need content. 1461 01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:24.680 So I would do a conversation between a Colonel Sanders 1462 01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:28.479 and other notable figures they would call up on the telephone. 1463 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:32.039 And one thing, I think, I like to pride myself 1464 01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:34.279 for the thing I have noticed about Colonel Sanders. You 1465 01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:37.920 much like him. I want you always to hear as 1466 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:42.199 much ash. Oh, yeah, she's rather important for the time, 1467 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:43.359 you see. 1468 01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:44.960 So I would do these. 1469 01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.640 I've got tons of videos online of him talking to 1470 01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:51.000 Robert Oppenheimer and talking to Humphy Bullguards and talking to 1471 01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:54.159 Marlon Brando and talking to whoever I felt like I 1472 01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:56.239 could imitate that day. I would go in the booth 1473 01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:58.159 and I used to script them and I went, I'm 1474 01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:00.359 just gonna improvise them, and I'll do one the other 1475 01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:01.960 and one and the other and then I'll go back 1476 01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:03.920 and edit it and kind of overlap them and editing, 1477 01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:06.720 so the illusion of them, of him talking to these 1478 01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:10.840 famous people and he's always just on another channel. 1479 01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:17.199 Yeah, yeah, bring a lot of joy. 1480 01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:19.199 Yeah, you make some really good content. I just saw 1481 01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:21.439 your YouTube channel and your Instagram is really funny too. 1482 01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:23.000 You do a lot of funny skits on there. 1483 01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:23.399 Yeah. 1484 01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:27.520 My daughter and I we it's it's her job to 1485 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:29.880 help me load up a lot of Instagram stuff. So 1486 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:32.439 she does he hey dad, Hey dad, what do and 1487 01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:35.640 we don't contrive it. She actually pounces on me and 1488 01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:40.159 you know, do Joe Biden and he's explaining. 1489 01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:43.000 That so good. 1490 01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:46.159 The one that went viral was Joe Biden explaining that 1491 01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:50.039 the plot to Star Wars, so there's a galaxy parked 1492 01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:53.079 on the you know, it's not that kind of galaxy. 1493 01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:55.279 It's just the robots and. 1494 01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:57.000 They're not the droid. You're looking for. 1495 01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:09.840 Any of them, George, anybody's nobody's looking for joys. Come on, 1496 01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:13.119 never mind, come on, come. 1497 01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:13.960 On, man, come. 1498 01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:18.600 On man, you dog face pony Soldier. 1499 01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:25.840 So funny, so funny, that's delicious. Yeah, you do all 1500 01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:28.119 the presidents so well. I saw a little video and 1501 01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:29.920 you're doing all the president. I was like, how do 1502 01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:32.159 you like? It's just like you don't even have to 1503 01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:34.680 introduce yourself. You're so good at it. It's just you know, 1504 01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:37.720 most people say their impressions and like turn around, well 1505 01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:41.199 the naga. You know, it's like, okay, we I. 1506 01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:42.000 Do a fair amount of that. 1507 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:46.479 But yeah, the presidents are so ubiquitous. You know, we 1508 01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:48.880 hear them. Oh, whether we like it or not. 1509 01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:51.560 You know, it is Donald Trump with us by any time, 1510 01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:52.199 Trump for shure. 1511 01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:54.279 You know, I noticed recently I don't do a lot 1512 01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:57.000 of Trump because there's so many guys that do fantastic job. 1513 01:13:57.079 --> 01:14:00.319 That's fantastic, I don't you know. I think I'm but 1514 01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:00.680 one thing. 1515 01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:02.239 I really listening to him recently, and. 1516 01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:05.479 Like it always sounds a little mournful. There's a kind 1517 01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:07.800 of a mindful thing, and we're going to do a 1518 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:08.319 great job. 1519 01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:09.600 Everything's going to be terrific. 1520 01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:12.960 It's a little bit of this is kind of on 1521 01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:14.239 we do. 1522 01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.439 You hear the music because whenever I have to do 1523 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:18.840 music of it, yeah, I think there's music in that. 1524 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:23.239 You know, I for what it's worth it when I 1525 01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:26.079 don't do impression, and I'm damned if I'm going to 1526 01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:29.000 do it in front of this guy. But but when 1527 01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:32.359 when I do, uh, there's always you know, like John 1528 01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:35.079 Wayne would be, well, I could tell you one thing, 1529 01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:41.119 you know, and it's there's music. 1530 01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:45.479 In it, right, because there's rhythm and there's yeah, tonality 1531 01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:49.399 and pitch and how how you know, Like, uh, this 1532 01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:51.920 is another thing I've noticed about human beings. We all 1533 01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:56.399 have voices, and we actors tend to really modulate a 1534 01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:59.159 lot more than normal people. And and us in our 1535 01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.640 normal lives, we don't modulate quite so much. You know, 1536 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.079 we don't go down to talk to the guy at 1537 01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:05.560 the CBS or something like, yeah, I have an appointment 1538 01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:08.439 at five o'clock. We kind of everything's kind of floating 1539 01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:11.479 along this level and we don't most people they kind 1540 01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:13.520 of it's almost as if there's a governor on it 1541 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:16.720 and the wavelength and they don't want. 1542 01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:18.199 Unless it's like, hey, dude, don't do that. 1543 01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:22.560 You know, you don't really vary from that, But everybody 1544 01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:25.039 has their own kind of vocal signatures. You can actually 1545 01:15:25.039 --> 01:15:28.000 see it when you're looking at a piece of software 1546 01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:33.239 that's recording and uh, it's beautiful, it is music. It's 1547 01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:36.600 it's exactly like music. Yeah, and yeah, it's it's a 1548 01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:40.359 beautiful it's it's like birds all have birds song, you know, 1549 01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:41.399 they don't think about his song. 1550 01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:42.680 They're just yapping, you know. 1551 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:44.600 Yeah, people like that. 1552 01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:45.119 We're like that. 1553 01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:47.880 Yeah. And and always whenever a bad guy, it's like 1554 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.920 soundtracks because it's always reflected like on the rifle Man, 1555 01:15:55.079 --> 01:15:57.760 Down Down Down, But when the bad guy sneaking around 1556 01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:02.239 the back of the barn in the night, boom boom boom, 1557 01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:06.359 boom boom boom. Got to slow it song, slow it down. 1558 01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:09.880 Minor key, minor key, got a in a minor key. 1559 01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.800 That's how you know shit's gonna hit the fan. Minor key. 1560 01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:14.039 Oh. 1561 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:17.000 You know, that's a big trend now that's happening with 1562 01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.600 trailers and soundtracks is they'll take some sweet song from 1563 01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:23.399 from our past and they'll give it a minor key. 1564 01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:24.640 And have some plaintive kind. 1565 01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:28.119 Of vocalist singing it. And you're like, oh, that's a 1566 01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:31.039 scary song and it's like a sippity doodar or something. 1567 01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:33.119 Yeah, yeah, it's so true. 1568 01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:42.600 Oh god, you know this one, there is someone walking 1569 01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:49.640 behind you, turn around, look at me. I can't think 1570 01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:51.920 of the movie that used that, and I thought, oh 1571 01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:54.560 my god, that was this romantic song from when I 1572 01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:57.239 was like five or whatever. You and then you hear 1573 01:16:57.279 --> 01:16:59.039 it now and it scares the crap out of you. 1574 01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:06.159 It's been Tim Burton turning around. You know. It's we 1575 01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:09.119 just are manipulated by it, and it's it's a beautiful 1576 01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:13.720 thing to notice and capture, and you do that so well. Oh, 1577 01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:15.720 thank goodness, Thanks Jim. You're very kind. 1578 01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:19.359 And I wanted to ask you when you first started working, 1579 01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:23.960 who was the first big, kind of stellar voiceover person 1580 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:25.119 that you interacted with. 1581 01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:29.960 Well, jeez, for me, well, the first JOW I ever 1582 01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:33.319 did was Dumbo Circus and a live action. 1583 01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:37.000 Sure, I'm a fan, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1584 01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:39.960 But uh but Hal Smith was on there, the great 1585 01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:45.720 Hal Smith, who was Otis Campbell the Andy Griffith Show. 1586 01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:49.239 He is the town drunk. And I walked in and 1587 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:55.359 my younger brother, he his friend Dave from from Youngstown, 1588 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:59.880 callous sophisticate that he is, came out and he said, 1589 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.439 I'll never get He goes up to Hal Smith and 1590 01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.560 he goes, Okay, it's nice to meet you. 1591 01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:06.119 Now. 1592 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:09.239 Don't take this the wrong way, because I'm not trying 1593 01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:13.800 to insult you you know who you look like, you 1594 01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:17.399 look like the drunk on Andy Grafft and he goes, 1595 01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:28.359 I had a drunk and I went, you know, so 1596 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:31.079 yeah he was. But he was my first, my first biggie. 1597 01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:34.239 Have you ever been Have you ever met somebody that's 1598 01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:39.520 kind of intimidated, intimidated you knocked you back a little bit, 1599 01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:41.479 like somebody big, big super. 1600 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:45.880 Star or you know, yeah, yeah, sure, mostly. 1601 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:53.680 Yeah, mostly, yeah. I get that with my mailman. So yeah, yeah. 1602 01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:58.319 I've worked with a lot of on camera and behind 1603 01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:00.880 the mic too, with a lot of big guys and 1604 01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:05.039 Oscar winners and you know, but I worked with Daniel 1605 01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:09.279 day Lewis on There Will Be Blood that for a 1606 01:19:09.319 --> 01:19:10.960 couple of days, and. 1607 01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:14.520 That was that was interesting. You know, he's a pretty 1608 01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:18.199 good voice guy. Oh yeah, I mean the gangs. Yes, 1609 01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:19.199 oh yeah. 1610 01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:21.479 To me, it sounds like he's doing Robert than There 1611 01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:25.640 on that movie. I'm just yea like a little bit, 1612 01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:30.079 a little bit, a little bit. But he in the 1613 01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:34.039 we didn't had such a small part. I wasn't allowed 1614 01:19:34.039 --> 01:19:36.039 to look at the script of There Will Be Blood, 1615 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:39.880 but I could see my pages and uh it was 1616 01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:42.800 the scene where he comes in and the very start 1617 01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:44.439 of the movie where he comes and gives an appeal 1618 01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:47.039 to a bunch of townspeople to buy their land, and 1619 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:49.199 he gets you know, they shout him down and he 1620 01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:50.239 goes off in a huff. 1621 01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:51.800 And he's there with his son. 1622 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.039 And I didn't know much about the story, but i'd 1623 01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:58.319 heard from the casting person that it was based on 1624 01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:00.800 a book called Oil by Upton Sin So I read 1625 01:20:00.840 --> 01:20:02.920 that book because I had a lot of downtime and 1626 01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:07.479 it's a great book. And I discovered later that at 1627 01:20:07.479 --> 01:20:11.079 about page seventy in this five hundred page book, the 1628 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:14.600 movie in the book all like that, Oh doesn't become 1629 01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:15.760 you know. 1630 01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:17.640 It's psychotic. They are no longer. 1631 01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:19.600 It's like a whole other book. 1632 01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:22.960 But it's very cleaves, very much to the original up 1633 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.600 till about page seventy. So I was in that early 1634 01:20:26.720 --> 01:20:30.600 page seventy period, so I had no idea. 1635 01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:31.760 That he was going to you know, that the character 1636 01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:32.840 was going to go the way he went. 1637 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:36.880 But when watching him, because I watched him do that speech, 1638 01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:39.000 it's a long speech. It's his first long speech in 1639 01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:43.039 the maybe the first utterances that you actually hear, because 1640 01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:44.840 there's awful lot of silent stuff in the beginning of it, 1641 01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:48.479 and you know, I'm watching him and you know, he's 1642 01:20:48.520 --> 01:20:51.479 just a believable I believe he's the guy. I believe 1643 01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:55.279 we're here. We did it over and over again. I'm like, yeah, 1644 01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:56.159 that's the way to do that. 1645 01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:58.039 You know, it's very sensible. 1646 01:20:58.359 --> 01:21:00.000 It wasn't like there wasn't a lot of history on 1647 01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:03.640 or fireworks or technique or it was just like, no, 1648 01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:08.319 that's simple. Just that's that's really good. Yeah, like that's 1649 01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:09.000 a good actor. 1650 01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:09.479 You know. 1651 01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:12.319 Of course he does other magnificent things in that film. 1652 01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:16.039 But yes, and I met him and he was his 1653 01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:18.560 character name was Daniel, and his name is Daniel. So 1654 01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:22.079 there wasn't a lot of like, oh, now he's being Daniel. Well, yeah, 1655 01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:26.880 he's arrived as Daniel. He's so I shook his hand 1656 01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:28.319 and he said, nice to meet you. 1657 01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:30.520 You know, was he in character? He was, Yeah, he 1658 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:31.279 stays in character. 1659 01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:34.199 He was doing that John Houston kind of voice. Yeah, 1660 01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:36.600 so he stays in character the whole time. But that 1661 01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:39.439 makes sense. It's a sensible thing to do, you see. 1662 01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:43.039 So like Jim Carrey with the what was it one 1663 01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:49.359 about Andy Kaufman, Yeah, man, the Man in the Moon. 1664 01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:52.119 Yeah, I work with Jim too work on the Wrench. 1665 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:53.800 On the Grinch. What was that set like? 1666 01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:54.800 Oh, it's great. 1667 01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.439 What was that set like? What an amazing sets, such 1668 01:21:57.479 --> 01:21:58.039 a work of art. 1669 01:21:58.039 --> 01:21:59.840 It was like being inside a huge work of art. 1670 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.319 So and then all the characters were all decorated, you know, basically, 1671 01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:06.000 And that's in a sound stage, and that was on 1672 01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:07.000 a massive sound stage. 1673 01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:08.880 Yehiverse, I was there four months. 1674 01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:12.479 That's right, four months. How long is that makeup? 1675 01:22:13.279 --> 01:22:16.319 Three hours a day? Three hours? It's like total or 1676 01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:16.840 putting on? 1677 01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:20.279 Uh no, another hour to take it off, dang hour 1678 01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:21.479 and plus to take it off. 1679 01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:23.960 Always felt good to take it off. But I loved 1680 01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:25.800 I loved having the makeup on. It was fun. Yeah, 1681 01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:29.119 they do someone to hide behind, Yeah, and you know, 1682 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:30.000 I could manipulate. 1683 01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.760 I learned how to like moving around because my nose 1684 01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:33.279 was up here. 1685 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:34.520 We could do you know. 1686 01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:38.399 It was kind of puppeteering with your nose and amazing 1687 01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:39.119 actors and. 1688 01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:40.039 There's a skill that. 1689 01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:41.399 Yeah. 1690 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:44.880 Were you around Jim on site? 1691 01:22:45.039 --> 01:22:47.760 Yeah, fair amount. But he was not having a good time. 1692 01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.960 No, no, unfortunately that makeup alone. 1693 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:55.159 Yeah, he had these full scleral eye caps. 1694 01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:57.720 Oh, because his eyes were yellow. 1695 01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:02.880 Yes, two sets of child offers and yack for and 1696 01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:08.920 and prosthetics, and he was just in pain. It's well 1697 01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:12.239 known and he talks about a lot, so you know, 1698 01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:13.399 I understand why we. 1699 01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:14.800 Didn't all pal around. 1700 01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:17.279 Yeah he was because in between takes he was kind 1701 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:20.439 of seething, trying. 1702 01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:22.319 To trying to get through the day, get off. 1703 01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:25.319 And one day, one day I came to work and 1704 01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:27.479 early in the morning, always because we had to do 1705 01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:29.600 three hours of makeup. I came to work on Universal 1706 01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:32.800 lot and I saw the Grynch walk by and I 1707 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:36.000 could tell, well, that's not Jim. It's Jim's taller. That's 1708 01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.119 probably his stunt double Pat Banta. So I go, hey, Pat, 1709 01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:42.520 and the guy says, oh, no, no, it's not Pat, 1710 01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:43.079 it's Ron. 1711 01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:46.479 And this is the day that Ron Howard uh was. 1712 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:48.920 You know, Jim had been complaining. 1713 01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:51.359 About the makeup and stuff. 1714 01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:53.039 So I said, I decided one day I'm going to 1715 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:55.159 come in do the full makeup and spend. 1716 01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:56.359 The day and see what that's like. 1717 01:23:58.159 --> 01:23:58.359 Wow. 1718 01:23:58.600 --> 01:23:59.960 He did it all day long and he had the 1719 01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:02.439 end of the day went see, I see what you mean. 1720 01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:05.880 That's pretty awful. 1721 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:09.479 Sitting there going yeah, yeah, I get it. 1722 01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:15.920 Agony, yeah, yeah, but again, that's roun an hour. I 1723 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:18.079 don't know another director in the world that would do 1724 01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:18.560 such a thing. 1725 01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:20.279 Is that so funny? Yeah? 1726 01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:21.199 Oh my god? 1727 01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:24.159 Do people know that story? Do you guys know that story? 1728 01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:27.039 I've never heard that story never. That's hilarious. 1729 01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:32.319 That's in your book, man, that's good, it's amazing. Yeah. 1730 01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:35.640 So it's a it's been an interesting career. It hasn't 1731 01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:37.159 gone at all the way I. 1732 01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:37.720 Thought it would. 1733 01:24:37.720 --> 01:24:40.039 I never have thought that I would be like mainly 1734 01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:42.760 being an impressionist, and these days I don't even know 1735 01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:45.199 how long it's going to last with AI. I know 1736 01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:46.960 a lot of my work is going to go away, 1737 01:24:47.800 --> 01:24:50.920 like soundlike stuff in ad R quick spot things. 1738 01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:53.560 And be able to really you think so absolutely, I 1739 01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:54.680 mean I would. 1740 01:24:54.760 --> 01:24:56.399 I mean if I was a producer and like we 1741 01:24:56.439 --> 01:25:00.439 need Colin Firth to say, come on in, you know, okay, 1742 01:25:00.439 --> 01:25:01.119 well I think we can. 1743 01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:05.319 You know that's oh yeah, that we're not too crazy 1744 01:25:05.319 --> 01:25:07.399 about all that stuff. No, of course not. 1745 01:25:07.479 --> 01:25:10.720 But it's a but it's a tool and I think 1746 01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:12.560 about it all the time. I think about it every day, 1747 01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:16.319 and it does put pressure on actors to be more, 1748 01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:21.880 more better, uh, you know, more original, more to be more, 1749 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:26.199 you know, because an AI doesn't have your replaceable irreplaceable, Yeah, 1750 01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:28.840 to be creative. 1751 01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:32.439 And so yeah, and hopefully they don't add lib. Hopefully 1752 01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:37.399 the AI doesn't add LIB. I live and I think. 1753 01:25:37.479 --> 01:25:39.640 I watched a I watched a twenty minute video on 1754 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:43.600 YouTube yesterday about how AI cannot draw a full glass 1755 01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:44.039 of wine. 1756 01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:44.880 Oh I saw that. 1757 01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:46.840 Yeah, can just cannot do it. 1758 01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:48.720 Yeah, it has draw a full glass. 1759 01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:50.600 You can ask AI to draw a full glass of 1760 01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:53.399 wine filled to the brim. It will never do it. It 1761 01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:56.399 cannot do it. What kind of weird the weirdest this 1762 01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:59.520 guy like goes into like this whole explanation for twenty minutes, 1763 01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:00.760 like deep bunking. 1764 01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:02.720 Like why who and who found that out? 1765 01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:07.479 This is just random YouTube? Yeah, you're not a random YouTuber. 1766 01:26:07.479 --> 01:26:09.880 I'm going to link your video actually in this video 1767 01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:11.199 because you deserve some credit. 1768 01:26:11.239 --> 01:26:11.920 That was a good video. 1769 01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:15.880 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's fascinating. It's like it 1770 01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:21.439 seems like it's so capable and then so deficient at 1771 01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:24.680 the same time. Right, Yeah, but yeah, it'll be interesting 1772 01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:26.760 to see how all that plays out. But I'm not 1773 01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.119 a big believer. I think it's vastly overstated what it 1774 01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:32.119 can actually do, but only time will tell. 1775 01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:36.760 Yeah, for certain effects it's very good, and for other 1776 01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:40.039 things it just will always be inferior. 1777 01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:42.760 Yeah, I mean, we this is what I was thinking 1778 01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:43.319 about earlier. 1779 01:26:43.319 --> 01:26:46.279 It's like, you know, people have talked about, well, photoshop 1780 01:26:46.319 --> 01:26:49.399 came along and it didn't destroy photography. It didn't well 1781 01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:54.239 and and you know it go back further. You know 1782 01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:59.000 this never happened, but you wouldn't say, well, ventriloquism is 1783 01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:00.479 just going to destroy it entertainment. 1784 01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:02.000 Just look at that. This is a guy. 1785 01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:05.199 You can put a voice into a non living thing 1786 01:27:05.720 --> 01:27:07.640 and it makes it look like a living thing. 1787 01:27:07.880 --> 01:27:08.560 I mean, that's it. 1788 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:11.600 We're done because now you'll just we'll just always have 1789 01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:15.399 been able to have dummies and people providing voices for it, 1790 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:18.199 not really because nobody really we get a little bit 1791 01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:18.960 of entrilogaism. 1792 01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:21.159 We're fine. That's I'm gooding out for a year. 1793 01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:25.079 Yeah, two minutes, I'm done. 1794 01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:26.600 But because it's all drawing. 1795 01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:30.399 So with the AI, we're drawing and scrubbing from things, 1796 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:34.600 and it's not really original, and it's a lot of 1797 01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:37.159 plagiarism and it's stuff we've seen before. 1798 01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:41.039 That's why it's there, and so. 1799 01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:43.319 It has that me meditation and I you know, when 1800 01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:45.560 I see the things on Instagram pop up and it's like, wow, 1801 01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.720 look at this. It's Star Wars but nineteen fifties, and 1802 01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:51.520 you're like, wow, that's really interesting. I'm you know, I'll 1803 01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:54.920 take forty seconds of this, but it's not going to 1804 01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:55.680 change the world. 1805 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:58.920 Shirt. Yeah, completely compelling. That reminds me of this line 1806 01:27:58.920 --> 01:28:02.319 in I Robot with Smith and he's sitting down interrogating, 1807 01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:05.479 you know, the android, and he's like, can you make a. 1808 01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:07.560 Work of art? Can you write a symphony? And the 1809 01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:09.279 android looks at him, he's like can you. 1810 01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:11.359 Yeah? 1811 01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:16.279 Yeah, yeah, you better wise guy, Yeah yeah I could. 1812 01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:19.520 If I could, I know a guy who knows a guy. 1813 01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:24.000 Yeah, that's right. 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It's it's plagiarism. 1825 01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.560 Program and it's programming, and it's yeah, it's digits. 1826 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:06.479 Yeah. 1827 01:29:06.640 --> 01:29:08.800 Yeah, hard to be ampathetic with it something. 1828 01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:10.279 But I can see a lot of a lot of 1829 01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:12.960 work disappearing because it would be just like you know, 1830 01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:15.960 we we talk to robots all the time on the phone, Yeah, 1831 01:29:16.319 --> 01:29:17.319 because it's like who. 1832 01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:19.319 We all love it and we're like we'll put up. 1833 01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:21.560 With it because he can't really imagine somebody doing it 1834 01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:24.840 all day long saying yeah please hold and all that. 1835 01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:26.680 Yeah, unless it's outsourced. 1836 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:30.199 Yeah, I get that with a lot of actual people. 1837 01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:31.880 I feel like I'm talking to robots. 1838 01:29:31.920 --> 01:29:32.560 Well, that's true. 1839 01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:37.439 We have to be we have to exert our humanity, right, 1840 01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:40.439 And that's the key to any kind of success with 1841 01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:43.600 anything is first be there, be present, and be willing 1842 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:46.520 to communicate with other people and to have that evolution, 1843 01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:48.840 you know. And yeah, I think it puts a lot 1844 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:51.600 of us on notice. You know, how unautomatic can you be? 1845 01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:53.119 Yeah? 1846 01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:55.279 Because the more automatic, you know, like this is why 1847 01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:57.880 marriages go bad, because the husband or the wife is 1848 01:29:57.960 --> 01:29:58.520 kind of like, oh. 1849 01:29:58.439 --> 01:30:00.880 Yeah, I'm married, and it's it's just gonna run. 1850 01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:02.680 And I've done my bit, you know. 1851 01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:06.560 I I paid the bills and I bought the ring. No, 1852 01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:09.079 that's just the entrance fee. 1853 01:30:09.119 --> 01:30:12.920 You know, it's just Skynett letting us know they're listening. 1854 01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:17.479 Oh, Skynet, I didn't mean it. I did not mean it. Hey, 1855 01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:18.960 it's the best thing I ever hear them. 1856 01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:21.880 Yeah, the smart hub notification pops up on the TV 1857 01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:23.279 for you guys confused at home. 1858 01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:25.920 It's it's very suspicious. 1859 01:30:27.399 --> 01:30:29.319 Say, no attention to the man behind the curtain. 1860 01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:31.399 But did you have anything you wanted to advertise or 1861 01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:33.479 plug upcoming that you got going on? 1862 01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:34.359 Nah? 1863 01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:37.239 Not really visit my website, jim Meskama dot com s. 1864 01:30:37.239 --> 01:30:39.680 I mean email, don't you if I'm not mistaken. 1865 01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:41.720 Oh, it's not really set up yet. 1866 01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:42.319 No. 1867 01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:44.960 No, I did a bunch of online videos, but we 1868 01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:48.279 haven't figured out how to host it properly yet. One 1869 01:30:48.279 --> 01:30:49.880 of these days, though, stay in touch when they get 1870 01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:51.159 on my man. 1871 01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:53.359 Stay tuned, Yeah, stay tuned. 1872 01:30:53.079 --> 01:30:55.159 To follow you on social media, of course. Yeah, you 1873 01:30:55.159 --> 01:30:56.520 guys have to. It's actually really funny. 1874 01:30:56.600 --> 01:31:01.600 Yeah at jimpressions on Instagram. I'm on TikTok and I 1875 01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:06.439 had a lot of success there, not monetarily, but I'm 1876 01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:08.039 told I've made like over eight. 1877 01:31:07.960 --> 01:31:09.039 Dollars on Instagram. 1878 01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:11.279 So I really don't know how to get it out 1879 01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:14.239 of the See now you're talking though, Yeah, we're talking. 1880 01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:17.800 Oh man, that's great, And I'll. 1881 01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:20.159 Do my my one man show again. And I'm working 1882 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:22.399 on a screenplay and I'm always just trying to. 1883 01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:24.079 Well, do I have any co stars? 1884 01:31:26.760 --> 01:31:30.159 That's my really funny joke. Well that's great, man. That 1885 01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:33.119 takes a lot of guts. I've thought of that every 1886 01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:35.720 every eight or so years. I think maybe I should 1887 01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:37.800 do it one man show. No, that scares the crap 1888 01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:38.199 out of me. 1889 01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:40.039 Oh so cold A good reason to do it? 1890 01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:41.680 Well, you got to take it sold. If you let 1891 01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:43.800 me know, I'll be there for sure, because please. 1892 01:31:44.039 --> 01:31:46.720 Yeah, I mean you can start off. I think start 1893 01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:48.800 off modestly, you know, do something for friends. 1894 01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:50.800 No, I mean I want to come watch you. I'm 1895 01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:54.520 not going to do it. Yeah, I'm not bilt on stage. 1896 01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:58.000 Yeah. I just always enjoyed. 1897 01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:01.319 You know, I didn't become a stamp. That's another lifestyle. 1898 01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:02.439 You know, it's kind of what I do. 1899 01:32:02.479 --> 01:32:03.600 There's probably what you do too. 1900 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:07.079 There's a little overlap in that world, but that's a 1901 01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:11.800 very specific trail and those guys, you know, you got 1902 01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:13.880 to work it and you got to be willing to 1903 01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:14.960 go through the agony of it. 1904 01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.239 And apparently that's pretty agonizing. It looks like hell. 1905 01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:22.479 But then if you surmounted and actually get established, you 1906 01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.159 could make a Like I went one time to see 1907 01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:28.600 Eddie Izzard at the Hollywood Bowl and I looked around 1908 01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:31.319 and I looked on my phone. How many people fit 1909 01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:34.439 in the Hollywood seventeen thousand people to see a stand 1910 01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:36.560 up comic and they all had a great time. 1911 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:37.000 Jeez. 1912 01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:39.640 I thought, if I could do that, I think I'd 1913 01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:40.359 be pretty happy. 1914 01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:42.079 Yeah. 1915 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:44.960 So yeah, looking for start looking at working for a 1916 01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:46.640 way to do that. But he started off just busting 1917 01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:49.399 and doing all kinds of crazy nonsense, no kidd you 1918 01:32:49.399 --> 01:32:51.000 know on the streets and England. 1919 01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:59.079 The dress fits. Yeah, very brave, very brave. There's doing it. 1920 01:32:59.079 --> 01:33:00.760 One more thing that we do on this show. 1921 01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.239 It's a little game that we play if you're if 1922 01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:06.359 you're game to play, and it's a little voice swap game. Sure, 1923 01:33:06.399 --> 01:33:08.079 and since you do so many impressions. I thought it 1924 01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:10.760 might be fun to do the voice swap with impressions. 1925 01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:13.359 How do you feel about that? So Jim will say 1926 01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:15.880 a character line of his, you know, say Winnie the 1927 01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:18.479 Pooh or dark Wing or I. 1928 01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:20.840 Need to I need to branch out more. I need 1929 01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:22.760 to think of more characters. Maybe Ray. 1930 01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:25.000 Yeah, just one of his quick characters will say a 1931 01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:27.159 line and then if you repeat that same line but 1932 01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:30.119 in an impression voice, just picked a voice, okay, and. 1933 01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:30.479 Then we'll go. 1934 01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:33.000 Now that's what it is, or be self evident or 1935 01:33:33.039 --> 01:33:35.199 do you want to assign it to me or you? 1936 01:33:35.279 --> 01:33:38.119 Yeah, you just pick. I have confidence we'll be able 1937 01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:39.159 to tell dealer's choice. 1938 01:33:39.199 --> 01:33:42.680 Okay, there you go. So maybe Ray from Princess. 1939 01:33:42.720 --> 01:33:44.840 Yeah, we don't know. Yeah, we don't do Ray very much. Yeah, 1940 01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:46.079 we don't do Ray very much. 1941 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:49.600 Okay, where you know you know what they always say, 1942 01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:52.600 do women love a man with a big back? 1943 01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:53.119 Poach? 1944 01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:59.159 Well you know what they say, wayman, I love a 1945 01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:00.800 man with a big back porch. 1946 01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:05.960 Matthew McCarty. Matthew McCatty. Yes, that'll be part two to 1947 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:06.319 the game. 1948 01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:09.279 We'll guess. Yeah, So the pressures all. 1949 01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:11.000 Right, so far we're tied. 1950 01:34:11.359 --> 01:34:15.560 Oh yeah, Now do I feed him? So yeah, yeah, 1951 01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:19.640 you feed him alive and then okay, good, So oh, 1952 01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:22.319 I wish for something outrageous. 1953 01:34:22.680 --> 01:34:25.920 Oh, wish for something orageous. 1954 01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:28.840 That has to be Robin Williams. 1955 01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:32.279 That has to be Robin and Tiger. I don't know Tigger. 1956 01:34:32.359 --> 01:34:35.680 Yeah, Paul Winchell, the great Paul Winchell. 1957 01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:41.359 Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, oh yeah, yeah. I know him well. 1958 01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:44.039 I knew him well. I went out with his daughter 1959 01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:47.079 for a while. Really yeah, oh sure, yeah, and I 1960 01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:51.720 know her very well too. And I guess this is 1961 01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:55.800 slightly uplifting, but uh but I feel like I should 1962 01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:58.039 tell this. I don't think I've ever told this, but 1963 01:34:58.159 --> 01:34:59.960 Paul was a buddy of my I mean I actually knew, 1964 01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.319 you know, for years, and uh and I would do 1965 01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:06.319 Tigger when we're very very very very first start late 1966 01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:09.800 late dadies. He was still going back and forth to Africa. 1967 01:35:10.199 --> 01:35:15.319 Took cure hunger, knucklehead smith Tigger cure hunger, obvious career 1968 01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:19.720 path and artificial har yeah, artificial heart. Yeah that yeah, 1969 01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:23.640 I forgot that one. But he came in and you 1970 01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:26.359 never know when he's kidding around. But we were sitting 1971 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:29.119 there at score one doing something. I was doing pooh, 1972 01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:31.720 he was doing Tigger. And he came in and he 1973 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:33.640 had a driver and he was helping him. And he 1974 01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:38.760 was kind of tentatively coming up the steps and you're going, oh, oh, Jesus, man, 1975 01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:41.600 what the heck? And he said to hey, how you doing, kid? 1976 01:35:42.199 --> 01:35:44.439 And he sits down, and how you doing, Paul? And 1977 01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:51.399 he goes, I've been better. I go, okay, what's what's happening? 1978 01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:56.359 He said, well, I had another stroke? And I said, 1979 01:35:56.359 --> 01:36:00.560 oh gosh, man, I can sympathize because and he and 1980 01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:04.760 I said so so would I. And he goes, well, 1981 01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:06.760 put it this way, go like this with your hands. 1982 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:10.199 I go okay. He goes, I could see the space 1983 01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:14.920 pretty well between my palms. And I said, oh. He goes, yeah, 1984 01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:20.880 I got a driver. I see you got a driver. Geez. Uh, 1985 01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:24.119 well you know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know, my 1986 01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:27.239 whole my whole family really did we all have strokes? 1987 01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:29.960 You know? And uh? And I told him that and 1988 01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:36.600 I said, so, so what does this mean? And and 1989 01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:38.119 he looks over me and put his hand on my 1990 01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:41.479 shoulder and he says, it means. 1991 01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:43.199 I want you to take care of my little buddy 1992 01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:47.640 for me, tigger and I get cus pups telling that 1993 01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:54.239 story and uh so yeah, so anyway, there you have 1994 01:36:54.279 --> 01:36:58.640 a story man, Yeah yeah, but a bittersweet story and 1995 01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:03.520 with not a not sad uplifting I would think. 1996 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:05.680 You know, well, I feel of hope beautiful that he 1997 01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:07.560 knew who was going to take that over and he 1998 01:37:08.119 --> 01:37:09.399 passed over the reins to you, and. 1999 01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:12.800 Yes, yeah, that's that's actually good for you. That that's 2000 01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:15.079 that's the way I've thought of it. Yeah, that's way 2001 01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:18.359 I thought of it. Yeah. Well, and then you know 2002 01:37:18.439 --> 01:37:21.319 that inspired my joke and said, when I finally pass on, 2003 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.039 I hope I, you know, have enough characters that there's 2004 01:37:25.079 --> 01:37:30.560 five people to get again. Yeah that's not bad. That's 2005 01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:33.079 not bad. That's right. But thank you so so so 2006 01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:36.039 very much, and talk with you. 2007 01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:39.039 All right. 2008 01:37:39.079 --> 01:37:40.760 That does it for another episode of Tuned In with 2009 01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:43.880 Jim Cummings. Don't forget to like and subscribe. We appreciate 2010 01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:46.000 all of you guys watching, and don't forget you can 2011 01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:48.840 find bonus content on Patreon. We're really uploading a lot 2012 01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:51.000 on Patreon, so go check us out. Thank you to 2013 01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:54.640 all our patreons on there. And I think that just 2014 01:37:54.680 --> 01:37:55.479 about does it. 2015 01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:56.239 I think so. 2016 01:37:56.319 --> 01:37:58.359 We will see you in the next one, Jim ask men, 2017 01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:00.359 thank you so much for being here and we'll see 2018 01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:00.720 you later. 2019 01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:02.640 Thank you, sir, thank you, yeah, thank you. 2020 01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:03.159 That was fun 2021 01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:06.840 Mhm.