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Speaker 2: Everybody, welcome to winning the ball. Hellbody, welcome to winning
Speaker 2: the ball. Here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty, I'm Steve Rivera.
Speaker 2: In today with me is Tim Bentley, Tim hawarey.
Speaker 3: Very good, be ready to get going? Aren't you good?
Speaker 2: You're ready for fr if you what if you like fall?
Speaker 3: Steve, Tim, You're in charge. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yes, where'd you get that energy? Because because why did
Speaker 2: I want to take a nap?
Speaker 3: I feel bad? Thanks for having me back. I think
Speaker 3: the last time I was here, you were just getting
Speaker 3: ready to do the tour, and then it was a
Speaker 3: couple of holidays and some other stuff and I left.
Speaker 3: You have a basketball team I think was in the
Speaker 3: top ten. You have a football team, was getting ready
Speaker 3: to beat ASU at home, and here I am back,
Speaker 3: and man, it is taking a turn.
Speaker 2: I guess one of those could be true. There was
Speaker 2: what it was in the top and I don't think
Speaker 2: there was something that was ready to be there.
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 3: We talked about it and we believed, we believed that
Speaker 3: that was going to happen. Who do you mean we
Speaker 3: me and Mon we believed.
Speaker 2: I believe for about I know the first drive, the
Speaker 2: first drive, and that was over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to turn it off.
Speaker 5: I saw the way that we're warming up to, and
Speaker 5: really I was just like, guys, you can see it, guys.
Speaker 2: I said it before we do, both of you.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 2: They just didn't want to finish. They didn't want to
Speaker 2: play this season. They didn't want to play for that coach.
Speaker 2: That's for damn sure. Now, I think the validation for
Speaker 2: me saying that is everybody left hell with this. Well.
Speaker 3: I know we're going to talk about it later, man,
Speaker 3: but I'm glad to man. Let's just get to the
Speaker 3: end of this year and start fresh, you know with uh,
Speaker 3: you know, the the Big twelve games basketball, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe they can write the ship and NFL playoffs. Let's
Speaker 3: get going. Let's let's let's get rid of this.
Speaker 2: First things. First, got to take care of the Bruins. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I Don'm not I'm not too positive on that one.
Speaker 2: I think they could their tune half point favorites, which
Speaker 2: is kind of strange to me. It's it's a basket, right,
Speaker 2: But they they don't play well in that style. If
Speaker 2: you see how he continues to play the slow, slow,
Speaker 2: wish down style, there's one that can't play that because
Speaker 2: it's not good in the half court. It's never been
Speaker 2: good in the half court.
Speaker 3: Ever, it's it's not gonna happen. It's which which part
Speaker 3: playing playing well in a half court?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean at some point you got to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we just suck at it, and even we could practice
Speaker 2: on it and they could do well in it. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna say they're gonna lose yet, but guess who
Speaker 2: has to show up. They're shooters. Otherwise good luck, because
Speaker 2: they ain't gonna pound the ball inside.
Speaker 3: They they haven't been. I've been trying to watch. I've
Speaker 3: been watching them. They've been. They haven't even tried. I
Speaker 3: mean even the announcers are like, please get the ball inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing too, is uh is previous has
Speaker 2: been kind of bad. I couldn't find the right word,
Speaker 2: but bad, good enough, kind of bad. You know, he
Speaker 2: hasn't been consistent, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: I know. I never're talking about later. I've been listening
Speaker 3: to the shows, and you've been you've been sing no
Speaker 3: it's I mean, I mean your target audience, man, your
Speaker 3: target are.
Speaker 2: You are my targets? Yeah, older gentleman with nothing to do.
Speaker 3: I heard Ray Flores, I heard Tom Danahy on the interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been fun. Yes, yeah, not because of me.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, so you're you're, you're, you got a little
Speaker 3: movement going. Yes, I had.
Speaker 2: I did college grove on. It was pretty fun. It
Speaker 2: was pretty fun. We had like a psycho psychologist, uh
Speaker 2: to sports. It was fun. I really enjoyed that. You
Speaker 2: you you know, this stuff, given that you were coaching
Speaker 2: and running is kind of bonkers with you know, themental
Speaker 2: toughness right. Oh, in the world, they would run place
Speaker 2: as well. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: It's a constant negotiation. You're constantly negotiating, and you're talking
Speaker 3: them into it. You're talking those kids. I got into it.
Speaker 2: I got tired watching Forrest Gump run ended up wherever
Speaker 2: he ended up. I guess that's the ners, all right,
Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
Speaker 3: He did run through flag Staff? Is that that a
Speaker 3: couple of times? Yeah? The Long Road ran through there.
Speaker 3: You know that force come scene where they where he
Speaker 3: makes the smiley face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, that's flag Staff. Yeah, that was in flat
Speaker 2: and poop happens. Yeah, that one the same thing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just not spelled that way. Well, welcome, Welcome to a
Speaker 2: Friday show. We should have a pretty good one. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have Ben Bolsha, a long time La times as
Speaker 2: sports writer who covers the Bruins. He'll be in the
Speaker 2: first hour at three seventeen. Look forward to that. Ben's
Speaker 2: always good with us. And then in the second hour,
Speaker 2: a guy we all may or may not know, we
Speaker 2: cared to know, Jeff Jeff Jeff Jagan's awesome, uh, bringing
Speaker 2: him on to talk about his picks, but mostly to
Speaker 2: rant about the defections. And already know what he's gonna say.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be here, get him, hell, get
Speaker 2: him out of here?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: And and didn't Brennan say that if they want to
Speaker 2: be here, great, if they don't, well see you later. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: she wished the best, wish you the best, right, So
Speaker 2: I guess he's wishing him the best A lot of wishes, right, Yes, everybody,
Speaker 2: It's like Tim, you you hadn't been caught up yet
Speaker 2: and you asked me who's transferring everybody?
Speaker 3: But Noah, right, you said, who isn't what you said
Speaker 3: to me, who is it?
Speaker 2: In fact to two days ago, I think it was
Speaker 2: Dave Silver, not you Wednesday, whoever helped me Wednesday, thanks
Speaker 2: for not transferring getting to the transfer portal, holding you
Speaker 2: guys because I need you guys. Transfer portal for radio shows. Yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, When I was in college, they they went from
Speaker 3: twelve rounds in the NBA to two, and my friend
Speaker 3: and I we lamented the fact that we maybe we
Speaker 3: could have gone late in the twelfth round we were
Speaker 3: tracked weird runners up was maybe they'll pick us up.
Speaker 3: But now that there's only two rounds, so right, no
Speaker 3: transfer portal back then?
Speaker 2: Right, Well, everybody has high hopes. And then we're gonna
Speaker 2: have a new we as in terms of we as
Speaker 2: in the city, not me because I'm not part of them,
Speaker 2: a new offensive coordinator. I don't know if you have
Speaker 2: that for breaking news. They're gonna have the press covers
Speaker 2: at four thirty, are they. Yeah, I'm not sure we
Speaker 2: can do that live, but we'll talk more about it later.
Speaker 2: Pick I guess we'll have to talk about it right now.
Speaker 2: But they need help somehow.
Speaker 3: Listen, just you know, just shake things up a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe get some kids excited about something new
Speaker 3: and something fresh.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's a relatively young coach, right right, former
Speaker 2: quarterback at Texas Tech. Yeah, they need you're right to
Speaker 2: stir it.
Speaker 3: Up, stir it up, something fresh, you know, get some
Speaker 3: kids excited. You know, I mean it's a fact of
Speaker 3: life now. You know, kids can transfer. It's like free agencies.
Speaker 3: So you know, you got to you know, Oregon a
Speaker 3: long time ago figured out, you know, they got to
Speaker 3: sell to these eighteen nineteen year old kids.
Speaker 2: And they did it with those with those uniforms, with.
Speaker 3: Their uniforms, and they jazzed it up and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: and kids were excited about it. And I just I think,
Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta sell your program to eighteen or
Speaker 3: twenty one.
Speaker 2: I hate that, not that I hate that. I must
Speaker 2: be old and just get off my lawn and don't
Speaker 2: bother me, text me, don't call me blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Because we talked about that with a while back, Tim
Speaker 2: that you know, the uniforms, this is what they're looking for,
Speaker 2: the music, blah blah blah. And I'm thinking, just win
Speaker 2: because we talked about that with uniforms, right, I don't
Speaker 2: care what you look like, just give me the w
Speaker 2: do the eyon to look pretty good this year in
Speaker 2: their uniforms? Real good? How do you play real bad?
Speaker 2: They uniforms. Didn't give a crap. They oh they look
Speaker 2: really good. They're getting beat by thirty.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I know, but I but I think
Speaker 3: you do. That's so the new coaches and the new
Speaker 3: looks and the new styles, I mean, and recruiting, you know,
Speaker 3: almost recruiting your kids after every game. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: is hyping them out.
Speaker 2: I could not.
Speaker 3: Are you still coaching? I am not coaching high school sports.
Speaker 2: Oh that's kind of different though, Well, you.
Speaker 3: Know, talking to fifteen year olds is a lot different.
Speaker 2: There's still white eyed and they said yes, miss coach Bentley, Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: whatever you need from me.
Speaker 3: You would hope that they would do that. But you know,
Speaker 3: coaching high school kids, you know that have to be there.
Speaker 3: They're going to school. There's repercussions if they don't go
Speaker 3: to school.
Speaker 2: Oh what do you mean by have to?
Speaker 3: Well, you know they're in high school, so they you know,
Speaker 3: they're trying to graduate high school. I don't have to obviously,
Speaker 3: they don't have to be there, but you know, they
Speaker 3: have to go to I have to take a test,
Speaker 3: and you know, and and and as a coach, I
Speaker 3: used to I used to go and track on them
Speaker 3: and do all those things. And in college, you know,
Speaker 3: these kids now are getting grown ups. Grown ups are
Speaker 3: getting catered to. But you got to sell to them
Speaker 3: because these defections that we're seeing, you know, they can
Speaker 3: leave and it's yeah, you can put a good face
Speaker 3: on it and say, well, if you don't want to
Speaker 3: be here. But still, now he's got to go out
Speaker 3: and recruit a bunch of new kids.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, this is an issue that I think
Speaker 2: I've talked about before with Jay maybe and maybe you guys. Okay,
Speaker 2: so you give you a kid two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, okay, because he has his reputation and he
Speaker 2: isn't worth the money, you know, and you're thinking, what
Speaker 2: the hell I paid too much for this kid who's
Speaker 2: not doing what he's should be doing. I was going
Speaker 2: to kind of relate it to you because in your
Speaker 2: real world jobs, you've probably hired a person or two
Speaker 2: that you said, hmm, maybe he doesn't it well.
Speaker 3: Right, And that's when you go to your HR department
Speaker 3: or you you you know, then there's then there's work
Speaker 3: plans and thirty day work plan or ninety day work plans,
Speaker 3: and then sixty day check ins and thirty day you
Speaker 3: know warnings.
Speaker 2: Don't you think that's party what's going to I think.
Speaker 3: That's what's coming. Is you're gonna sign a contract that's
Speaker 3: either you know, it's it's gonna be you know, three
Speaker 3: three years, and there's there's benchmarks, and there's.
Speaker 2: If you if you don't do it nice knowing you right.
Speaker 3: I mean they could do that with with scholarships in
Speaker 3: the past, and so now with contracts, you know. But
Speaker 3: I also think I think Josh Passner said something about
Speaker 3: it last time, is it's going to even things out
Speaker 3: a little bit. It won't be such a free for all.
Speaker 3: It'll give some give some stability to programs and stability
Speaker 3: to coaches.
Speaker 2: I don't know this. You might know this one, and
Speaker 2: you might google this because I should know this. With
Speaker 2: the the pay rep you know, the twenty two million
Speaker 2: to twenty million that's on top of the nil is
Speaker 2: that in addition to I believe this revenue share. I
Speaker 2: think so okay, so they're gonna get money. So Tim
Speaker 2: sim Benley's gonna get uh whatever it is, you know,
Speaker 2: to five hundred thousand dollars just for showing up. And
Speaker 2: then on top of the any I nil you get
Speaker 2: in yours only crap, Tim Bentley.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be rich.
Speaker 5: Schools can share up to twenty two million manually with
Speaker 5: their athletes, schools can choose how to distribute it, and
Speaker 5: schools can also pay athletes directly for their use their
Speaker 5: inn il use.
Speaker 2: Okay, so on top of that, on top of that, man,
Speaker 2: what a time to be living in America.
Speaker 3: I used to have to I've told you this. I
Speaker 3: used to get a three dollars per DM running college track,
Speaker 3: and I had to sign for it that I wasn't
Speaker 3: a professional.
Speaker 2: Nineteen forty five, you got a two dollar bill.
Speaker 3: I got a free pair of shoes, you know that
Speaker 3: I would wear for the season.
Speaker 2: And there were those small banana oh my.
Speaker 3: God, they were.
Speaker 2: Those were Nikes. Who those banana thin thingies?
Speaker 3: We used to get, Well, we would be I was
Speaker 3: we had a six shoes, we were sponsored by a six.
Speaker 3: And then sometimes if there was a really good runner,
Speaker 3: you could get their shoes, you know, they'd be Nikes.
Speaker 2: Not not the Fontaine.
Speaker 3: No, there was a kid named tom Ansberry here. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: is that the guy? Yeah, no, no, no, cousin. This
Speaker 3: is because Tommy Ansbury went to Santaria High School. Was
Speaker 3: a great runner.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Fosbury was the flo.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, yeah, the flop guy. Fosbury is to
Speaker 2: get his shoes.
Speaker 3: I just thought that was the coolest thing. He was
Speaker 3: three four years older than me. He was a great runner.
Speaker 3: You've had great uh running track teams in the eighties.
Speaker 3: Coach Dave Murray.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he still around? I need
Speaker 2: to get him a.
Speaker 3: Job, asked, Let's let's get him on every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't talked to him in forever. You know,
Speaker 2: he was one of the great coaches.
Speaker 3: So you know NAU now is such a powerhouse and
Speaker 3: running up in Flagstaff that was you of a in
Speaker 3: the eighties for track men and women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, uh three eleven and got a couple more
Speaker 2: minutes to get a old man. We'll go about the
Speaker 2: three fourteen hours three fourteen Uh okay. Yeah, so back
Speaker 2: in the day. I like going back in the day
Speaker 2: because it was a much easier time and I didn't
Speaker 2: have to worry about bills my parents.
Speaker 3: I worked years ago. I worked at the it was
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Speaker 3: soil engineer, which meant that I basically shovel dirt. It's
Speaker 3: a great title. It's still on your resume totally, you know.
Speaker 6: But it was.
Speaker 3: I made like five fifteen hour when minimum wage was
Speaker 3: three twenty five or so. I was rich. I was
Speaker 3: really was living years nineteen eighty six, eighty five, eighty six,
Speaker 3: do not holdly fifty something, I'll be, I'll be. I
Speaker 3: just turned fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Oh so yeah, it was wow, fifty fifty five to
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Speaker 3: a stereo. I thought I was a king. I was
Speaker 3: living like a kid. I got to a big speaker,
Speaker 3: no no, no, with the big like a like a
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you put them in a little blass.
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Speaker 1: Today Streamy Live on the iHeartRadio WIP. This is Eye
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen
Speaker 1: to fifty.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to join the ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in the day with us
Speaker 2: Tim Bentley now on the Pune. We have been bulched
Speaker 2: from the La Times. Who covers UCLA men's basketball? Then?
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 13: Just walking around lovely downtown Phoenix, enjoying the weather, and
Speaker 13: I'll looking forward to a good game tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Great. Yeah, no, great, you know you covered uh Mick
Speaker 2: for a long time now, as long as he's been there. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's mine, it's my observation. I should say you have
Speaker 2: this good weird relationship with him because he's uh, prickly
Speaker 2: but not really prickly.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think good is the right word. I wouldn't
Speaker 13: say it was, you know, unusual in any way. I
Speaker 13: would say that was more of a Chip Kelly relationship.
Speaker 13: But yeah, no, we have a great relationship. I think
Speaker 13: he's open and honest, and I feel like I give
Speaker 13: them fair coverage and there's mutual respect going both ways.
Speaker 13: And you know, obviously I think I think he's done
Speaker 13: a tremendous job so far. And uh so, yeah, I
Speaker 13: agree that, you know, it's a good situation for both
Speaker 13: of us.
Speaker 2: He's he's I think he's miss not misidentified, but miss.
Speaker 2: This identifies my best word, I guess, because you know,
Speaker 2: he looked cranky. I know fans here give him grief,
Speaker 2: but he's he's at least in this. In the interviews
Speaker 2: I've seen with you, you because you're with him all
Speaker 2: the time, he's very like you see upfront and very
Speaker 2: candid and tells some good stories.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I've been around a little while like
Speaker 13: you haven't. I would say that he's probably the most
Speaker 13: enjoyable coach I've ever covered. Just but he's so honest
Speaker 13: and fourth right and accessible and you know, tells you
Speaker 13: what he's thinking. And his team said played well and
Speaker 13: had success. So you put that combination together, it's pretty
Speaker 13: hard to top. So, yeah, you know, I've covered a
Speaker 13: lot of beats, a lot of teams, pro college, high school.
Speaker 13: I would I would put him at the very top
Speaker 13: of the coaches I've covered.
Speaker 2: I would never guess that, but good for you.
Speaker 3: That's good. Hey Ben, this is Tim Bentley. I am
Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing you tomorrow. I saw your piece
Speaker 3: on when you talk to him about the realignment of
Speaker 3: the Big twelve, and he didn't sound happy. I mean,
Speaker 3: tell me his mood when you were.
Speaker 13: Talking about re alignment, about any conference, right. I don't
Speaker 13: think he was talking about Big Twelve in particular, but
Speaker 13: you know, I think he's echoing the sentiment of a
Speaker 13: lot of people that this is you know, I don't
Speaker 13: know if greed is the word, but he's athletic, departments
Speaker 13: looking to kind of secure their futures. And uh, and
Speaker 13: so there's gonna be some some fallout and people who
Speaker 13: are not served the bestest part of this, and and
Speaker 13: and you know the student uh athletes, which which actually
Speaker 13: I think is a term we should get rid of.
Speaker 13: But you know, the athletes are the people who are
Speaker 13: going to suffer the most because they're going to do
Speaker 13: all this travel and all this strain.
Speaker 2: So he thinks that anybody who says that this is
Speaker 2: a benefit for them is full of it.
Speaker 13: So uh, and that goes for all conference re alignment.
Speaker 2: You how did you deal with the first year with football? Oh?
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 13: Uh, you know, I went to Northwestern University, so so
Speaker 13: going back to the Big Ten, even though they didn't
Speaker 13: play the Wild Cuts, uh kind of a return for me.
Speaker 2: Uh, something I really kind of enjoyed to look forward to.
Speaker 13: But you know, I'll be honest, I did miss uh,
Speaker 13: you know, going up to play in Washington. I did
Speaker 13: kind of cheer up a little bit because it's like, wow,
Speaker 13: you know, all this history and tradition is going away,
Speaker 13: and obviously Washington's still part of the Big Ten, but
Speaker 13: you know, gonna miss some of these other schools, you know,
Speaker 13: coming coming into Arizona and other places.
Speaker 2: So it's a whole new world. Yeah, no question. Now
Speaker 2: let's get to the big game tomorrow. I would relatively
Speaker 2: state it's a big game. I don't know what is
Speaker 2: for Ucla, but it is for Arizona given the state
Speaker 2: that they're in at four and four, and they can't
Speaker 2: afford to lose many games moving forward because of the conference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think it's equal.
Speaker 2: I think it's equally big for UCLA.
Speaker 13: I mean, obviously, you know, they they lost that first
Speaker 13: big test against New Mexico and everybody completely put them
Speaker 13: off the radar.
Speaker 3: It took this win.
Speaker 13: You know, they haven't really played a tough schedule like Arizona,
Speaker 13: so it took beating Oregon at Orgon to kind of
Speaker 13: remind everybody, hey, the Bruins are still here. They might
Speaker 13: be pretty good, and obviously they want to keep that going.
Speaker 13: So I think, you know, beating Arizona and what's you know,
Speaker 13: more more so of a home game for them than
Speaker 13: than the neutral site would be another step in the
Speaker 13: right direction. In Ucla, they obviously want to get you know,
Speaker 13: a top four seed in the West, and if they
Speaker 13: want to do that.
Speaker 2: This is one of the games they're going to need
Speaker 2: to win if it was tim real quick. So with
Speaker 2: your unbiased eye, are they a pretty good team?
Speaker 3: I think they are.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 13: I think it's the deepest team coach Cornin has. I
Speaker 13: think the two issues I see right now they need
Speaker 13: a lot more out of the five position. They need
Speaker 13: more development from a Daimarra and William call the third
Speaker 13: because they've been playing Tyler Billadeau out of position at
Speaker 13: the five.
Speaker 2: I don't think they can do that all season.
Speaker 13: And then the other thing is they need a couple
Speaker 13: of guys to kind of step up more so to expectations.
Speaker 13: The two guys I would say there are Kobe Johnson
Speaker 13: from SC who has not lived up to the h
Speaker 13: mccarnell was tunting him as a national defensive player that
Speaker 13: you're candidate.
Speaker 2: He hasn't really done that.
Speaker 13: Uh. And then Sky Clark, who uh, you know mccronell
Speaker 13: loves because he's been very active defensively and doesn't turn
Speaker 13: over the ball, but he's not creating any sort of offense.
Speaker 13: He's gone from leading Louisville scoring to averaging I think
Speaker 13: around five points. So he needs to make some shots,
Speaker 13: and if him and Kobe Johns can get going, I
Speaker 13: think the Bruins will be tough to.
Speaker 3: Be Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna ask it, you know,
Speaker 3: coming into u of a packed twelve old rivalries. But
Speaker 3: you know, what's the word on the street. You're talking
Speaker 3: to the coach and the team, who on the U
Speaker 3: of a roster gives us HeLa a headache in your mind?
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, well, I'll never forget Caleb Love, right,
Speaker 13: but more so for what he did in tar Hill, Jersey.
Speaker 13: I mean, that was the most insane sequence of two
Speaker 13: minutes I've ever seen in basketball where I don't know
Speaker 13: if you guys watch this game, but in the twenty
Speaker 13: twenty two and say tournament UCL He's up three and
Speaker 13: playing fantastic. Caleb Love shoots a three, It misses, the
Speaker 13: ball bounces within a half inch of going out of bounds.
Speaker 13: Armando Baycott, the big man for the Tar Hills, saves
Speaker 13: it over his shoulder back to Love hits a three,
Speaker 13: hits another three, and that the tar Hills just roll
Speaker 13: from there. So that sequence will never die in the
Speaker 13: minds of the Bruins.
Speaker 2: In fact, coach.
Speaker 13: Coronin Asten this week also out as tough as losses.
Speaker 13: He said that one and then the Gonzaga. You know
Speaker 13: they they've actually had two buzzer beater against Gonzaga, but
Speaker 13: that the one that was banked in from from here
Speaker 13: half court. So, uh, you know, they're never gonna forget
Speaker 13: Caleb Love.
Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see.
Speaker 13: I'm assuming it'll be Dylan Andrews with the defensive assignment tomorrow,
Speaker 13: but you never can be sure.
Speaker 2: The one thing that I that I think Arizona's going
Speaker 2: to have trouble with, and then they've had trouble with
Speaker 2: all year. They can't go and transition teams have not
Speaker 2: allowed them to do what they do best or have
Speaker 2: done in the past. They're getting back and you see
Speaker 2: only was is a master at that uh through in
Speaker 2: this game at least because they know to get back
Speaker 2: for Arizona's transition. Do they still do that in terms
Speaker 2: of do they trying to not milk the clock but
Speaker 2: at least be more conservative with the time. Are you
Speaker 2: talking offensively defensively? Well? Both they If this game's in
Speaker 2: the sixties, Arizona's not going to win it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, the interesting thing that I'll be watching
Speaker 13: tomorrow is UCLA has tried to do more pressure this year,
Speaker 13: you know, some some full court and three quarters stuff,
Speaker 13: and to be honest, I haven't been that impressed with it.
Speaker 13: So to your point, Uh, you know, I I if
Speaker 13: I was making I might rain back on that a
Speaker 13: little bit and and you know, make sure you are
Speaker 13: back in cause of transition, because they had some problems
Speaker 13: in transitioning against Oregon, particularly late in the game that
Speaker 13: almost cost them the game. So you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 13: try a little bit early and see if you can
Speaker 13: do something, and if it's not working, just pull back,
Speaker 13: because I do think that's gonna be a key to
Speaker 13: the game.
Speaker 2: And he mentioned it as well. Yeah, let me ask
Speaker 2: you to Uh. You and I have seen probably more
Speaker 2: games with ucl in Arizona throughout the years.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of comforting that they're going to
Speaker 2: continue this. That kind of it is I'm trying to
Speaker 2: be stupid with it. It's gonna it's nice to continuing
Speaker 2: with it because it's obviously the best rivalry in the West.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm gonna be seeing I'll be interested to see
Speaker 13: what kind of the atmosphere it's gonna be tomorrow. Obviously
Speaker 13: it's gonna be pro Arizona in a heavy way. But
Speaker 13: you know, there was some concerns. I don't think Ucla
Speaker 13: from the UCLA perspective, they wanted to contend to as
Speaker 13: a home at home just because you know, so some
Speaker 13: parents had some concerns about uh, you know, some harassment
Speaker 13: that was going on there in recent years at the
Speaker 13: Kale Center. So I was a little bit surprised they
Speaker 13: did it this early. I did think that if they
Speaker 13: were going to do it there were it would be
Speaker 13: neutral sight. I think we talked about this last time
Speaker 13: I came on. But kudos to both teams for getting
Speaker 13: this done as quickly as they did. I do think
Speaker 13: it will be fascinating seeing kind of surreal scene tomorrow
Speaker 13: for them to be playing in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, should be no, should be fun and it should
Speaker 3: be fun. I you know, I think that uh, to
Speaker 3: do a service for the fans. I think that you Steve,
Speaker 3: you're talking about the relationship and the and the rivalry
Speaker 3: for years and years. Uh, this just super serves the
Speaker 3: fans and super serves the players coming out of southern California.
Speaker 3: And you mentioned parents being angry, but it also gives
Speaker 3: parents an opportunity to come see their kids not too
Speaker 3: far away.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, and they certainly need that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 13: flying you know, Rutgers and and uh Penn State and
Speaker 13: and all these crazy trips. So that's that's a great
Speaker 13: point in fact, you know, most trips I'm connect, I'm
Speaker 13: going to connect somewhere, so to get quick flight. The
Speaker 13: Phoenix is a reminder of a of an easier, more
Speaker 13: gentle time.
Speaker 3: The good the buckle up. Man, it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: lot different, right, I mean.
Speaker 2: Right right, You're gonna age quickly. You and Bruce are
Speaker 2: gonna age quickly here next the next few years here.
Speaker 2: Good for you guys, though, uh you you? Is this
Speaker 2: team capabable of going deep in the n c DOAA tournament.
Speaker 2: They're gonna make it, obviously.
Speaker 13: But yeah, you know, I I maybe oversold them a
Speaker 13: little bit, uh before the season, I kind of said
Speaker 13: somewhere in the final four Sweet sixteen window, I still
Speaker 13: think that's possible.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 13: I'm a little bit you know, I have a little
Speaker 13: few more question marks than I did early in the year,
Speaker 13: or so, I should say, goring into the year. I
Speaker 13: do think they really got to get that five situation
Speaker 13: ironed out I think that's gonna be the key and
Speaker 13: Ked Dell. I haven't mentioned Dylan Andrews yet to you know,
Speaker 13: hit that game winner against Oregon. But he needs to
Speaker 13: be a lot more aggressive and looking for a shot
Speaker 13: and be more of the player we saw in the
Speaker 13: second half last year because he, to be honest, he
Speaker 13: really hasn't been that player. So they need him to
Speaker 13: re emerge. Get the five figured out, and I think
Speaker 13: they're in good shape.
Speaker 2: So what does this mean for a finish in the
Speaker 2: Big Ten? What do you mean, like, could they finish
Speaker 2: in the top three top four times? Oh?
Speaker 13: Oh, I'm sorry, Yeah, I thought you meant what is
Speaker 13: tomorrow's gamy?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 13: No, you know, I know I expect them to absolutely
Speaker 13: be in the top three in content for the Big ten.
Speaker 13: The thing I'm interested to see, you know. I tweeted
Speaker 13: this out a week or so ago. Obviously, Arizona has.
Speaker 2: The passion of the PAC twelve, or of what used
Speaker 2: to be the PAC twelve.
Speaker 13: U c l A, Oregon, Washington, USC had the four
Speaker 13: of the five worst attendances in the Big Ten so far.
Speaker 13: I think Northwestern is the one that would make keeping
Speaker 13: them from being four for four. But you know when
Speaker 13: they're going on the road to places like Nebraska, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: These places are you.
Speaker 13: Know, they have kind of similar passion areas. I don't
Speaker 13: know these are sold out arenas. Let's be honest. The
Speaker 13: PAC twelve outside of Arizona, Yeah, didn't really have.
Speaker 3: That on a night in a night out basis right.
Speaker 13: So I think that the road games are going to
Speaker 13: be a lot harder uh than than you U c.
Speaker 13: L A Is used to in the PAC twelve. So
Speaker 13: I'll be interesting to see how they responded that. Uh,
Speaker 13: you know, I think they're in their next their their
Speaker 13: next big ten road game is at Nebraska, uh with
Speaker 13: the player who was on us Tolay's roster last year
Speaker 13: at Burke will your tunsil. So I'm interested to see,
Speaker 13: uh they responded that, because I know that you know,
Speaker 13: they fill up that place as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, right, I think we're going to see
Speaker 3: a lot of that. These you're playing against a kid
Speaker 3: you played that was on your team last year, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: get transferred into the school, you know. But but do
Speaker 3: you think that maybe you know, these tough games, you know,
Speaker 3: early on, maybe they're they're closed. They lose a few
Speaker 3: by a bucket or two that'll help them in the tournament.
Speaker 3: Don't you think.
Speaker 13: They refocuses then, because uh, you know, uh that you know,
Speaker 13: usually I listen to New Mexico. Even though at the
Speaker 13: time people were devastated, I think that was a great
Speaker 13: focusing loss. They've been a completely different team since then.
Speaker 13: They got their attention. All these transfers, realized they had
Speaker 13: a lot of bad habits to break, got to play
Speaker 13: mccronain defense, got to be intense from start to finish,
Speaker 13: and they've they've really done that since they won all
Speaker 13: seven games, So you know, they obviously want to keep
Speaker 13: that going tomorrow. They cannot, you know, backsliding. It's a
Speaker 13: very good Wildcats team that mccarnan says is absolutely a
Speaker 13: top twenty five team. So I think they've got their
Speaker 13: full attention and we'll see if they can keep it
Speaker 13: going tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Right, So you said second or third in the Big
Speaker 2: Ten for Arizona. They were picked fourth or fifth. Now
Speaker 2: I don't even know about that because they've struggled so much.
Speaker 2: This is easily the worst defensive team I've seen in
Speaker 2: a long time on a number of levels. The transition game.
Speaker 2: We've already talked to the up and down of Cable,
Speaker 2: the glove and the backcourt's been crazy. So give me
Speaker 2: a quick prediction. I'm not leaning either way yet, but
Speaker 2: I think in my mind UCLA has everything on their
Speaker 2: side right now.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I'll give a prediction of the caveat.
Speaker 13: I think that if you see it plays the brand
Speaker 13: of basketball I did against Oregon, it wins this game
Speaker 13: in the five to ten point range, but that there's
Speaker 13: no given that that's going to happen, right, And obviously
Speaker 13: as presents different challenges. Maybe Caleb Love will going a
Speaker 13: heater and right, you know, six or seven threes. You
Speaker 13: just never know, right, But I think, you know, if
Speaker 13: if I had to look at it on paper right now.
Speaker 2: Things are trending in UCLA's direction.
Speaker 13: Obviously, Arizona's very is there probably gonna come in as
Speaker 13: the hunk for your team.
Speaker 3: They will have the.
Speaker 13: Home court as well, and you can't under estimate that. So,
Speaker 13: you know, you could kind of look at this as
Speaker 13: a coin flip game. But I do think if you
Speaker 13: say plays it's brand of defense that it's gotten to,
Speaker 13: I think they, you know, could win this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Cavitos, they have to play the best game
Speaker 2: of the year so far through eight, we already know
Speaker 2: they can be conecious. That's enough of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a lot of those games too. I
Speaker 3: saw that on your schedule for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, then we'll see you up there tomorrow. Be safe,
Speaker 2: have fun to Phoenix. You will so thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Stick there great.
Speaker 2: A dude's really good at what he does.
Speaker 3: We have some time.
Speaker 2: We got three or four minutes. What do you think?
Speaker 3: Oh so, what's the phone number?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got we maybe take a call and
Speaker 2: will help us out. We got about two minutes. We'll
Speaker 2: take a calls this Yeah, so we have fourteen minutes.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I my sense on Arizona is this is that you know,
Speaker 3: I was other than Duke. You know that they're gonna
Speaker 3: get up for big games. They're gonna this is gonna
Speaker 3: be on TV, all the things. They're gonna get up.
Speaker 3: These kids want to.
Speaker 2: Play, but they they've they haven't passed that mistesk.
Speaker 3: But I feel that's you don't even have a good sir.
Speaker 3: I do, But I'm wearing a baggy sweater, so you can't. Man,
Speaker 3: I hate you, you know, I I just have a
Speaker 3: sense that they step it up. I just I think,
Speaker 3: you know, isn't the homer in you?
Speaker 14: Not really?
Speaker 3: I went to Nau so I mean, come on, well,
Speaker 3: we know what your bread's but true, So I think
Speaker 3: they step it up a little bit. And he pointed
Speaker 3: out Love is gonna is. I think he has to
Speaker 3: show up. He wants wants to show up, but he
Speaker 3: you know, he wants to show that. You know that
Speaker 3: he rises up against them no matter when, if it's
Speaker 3: North Carolina or here, he plays well against the good team.
Speaker 2: Do you find his strains that he's not play well?
Speaker 3: Caleb?
Speaker 2: Do you find his strains that he's not playing well?
Speaker 13: Not?
Speaker 2: Really? What I did, I do find it. It's gonna
Speaker 2: continued struggle right now.
Speaker 5: I knew he was going to have games here and
Speaker 5: there where he goes and does Cardio on the court,
Speaker 5: but I didn't think it would be a continuous thing.
Speaker 2: And it's been continuous. Yeah, I wasn't. I was in
Speaker 2: what you being Cardio on the court. He's just out
Speaker 2: there running. Even that. I mean, I think, did you
Speaker 2: listen to the press comans yesterday with Tommy a little
Speaker 2: bit kind of how he's He didn't say lazy, but
Speaker 2: he's kind of like non committed to the defensive sides.
Speaker 2: And he was I don't want to put words in
Speaker 2: his mouth, but it was like that, you know, he's
Speaker 2: got to be ready all time. He kind of maybe
Speaker 2: takes plays off. Haven't we known that for a while.
Speaker 2: He kind of has that lack of ambition or something.
Speaker 5: And that's why I say it's not surprising, it's just
Speaker 5: the continuation.
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering. I'm wondering if that that little thing
Speaker 2: that he talked about yesterday, with the ambition or even
Speaker 2: the appearance of no desire, is what the NBA people
Speaker 2: are telling him you and that's what's lacking because of
Speaker 2: the group that he has. He's the worst of the
Speaker 2: NBA potential, right, it's Briant and it's it's it's Jayden Bradley,
Speaker 2: it's k J. Lewis, and where's love Well. He's eighty
Speaker 2: fourth in the draft pick. This is the PAC ten player,
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve Player of the Year, and a pretty
Speaker 2: good player, but no one's talking about him. I wonder
Speaker 2: if that has something to do with him not being engaged.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so.
Speaker 5: I think he's so it's a little bit in just
Speaker 5: an overall slump right now. But you go, you one
Speaker 5: game of your hair, I'll go go with the next game.
Speaker 5: Two games, well, I should probably look at film.
Speaker 2: Three games.
Speaker 3: Now it's in your head.
Speaker 2: It's the Kyler Murray. You think I canna stop playing
Speaker 2: video game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2: Read the playbook, no pit, some shots hit some shots,
Speaker 2: And in fact, I asked, we're ready to go? Probably
Speaker 2: I asked them mule Bach, maybe Rhino on this, and
Speaker 2: they had varying answers. If as Arizona goes, so goes
Speaker 2: Caleb or vice versa. Yeah, I think so that's trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I mean I I and I think and
Speaker 3: I'm kind of hearing that that that Tommy's you know,
Speaker 3: saying these things publicly.
Speaker 2: That a little bit and well, wherever you're hearing that,
Speaker 2: I want to talk to them because it's pretty accurate.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's that's that's the plan. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: that's what's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes sense. Yeah, Okay, I need your sources.
Speaker 2: Give me some numbers. Hey, we're a journalist. We got
Speaker 2: to check their sources. I'm I have checked and it
Speaker 2: is okay, Tommy, get on, Tommy, can get them on
Speaker 2: the phone.
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Speaker 2: Jay coming on the other side to talk about football
Speaker 2: and basketball as we move forward. But I wanted to
Speaker 2: talk to you guys. I don't know Tim. You might
Speaker 2: know this because you're history in town. So we know
Speaker 2: the situation with Brent right now right uh and the
Speaker 2: condition that the programs in a lot of people freaking out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy's falling. Okay, So you've been in town for home.
Speaker 3: I moved here when I was a kid in the
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Speaker 2: Are we give me the debacle level of these and
Speaker 2: give me the top debaccle in this time? Uh? Okay,
Speaker 2: So we have a football football yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 2: And actually that's a good that'll be the Mendoza lot. Okay.
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Speaker 2: was okay, step Tony Mason level and Bret Brendon level.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's on the verge of the Macovic level.
Speaker 3: I mean it could go horribly.
Speaker 2: Okay, But which is the which is let's go the worst?
Speaker 3: Is the top?
Speaker 2: Is that someone level? Which is the top? Which is
Speaker 2: the top disaster? Which is the poseidon nack of it?
Speaker 2: Really worse than something?
Speaker 3: Well I was I was working at TV back then,
Speaker 3: and I we got to we we did his shows
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, and and I just it wasn't
Speaker 3: the right fit. It was he had an eye on
Speaker 3: TV the whole time, and he had just come from TV. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he had he didn't he didn't really want to
Speaker 3: be here, you know, it was probably a little bit
Speaker 3: of a payday and he was looking immediately looking back
Speaker 3: to ESPN or wherever he was trying to get on.
Speaker 3: But you know, someone you could probably make an argument
Speaker 3: for both, but I think those are one in one. A. Oh,
Speaker 3: you didn't mention Tony Mason night what was that nineteen seven,
Speaker 3: seventy nine eighty one, right before Larry Smith came in?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean didn't he beat Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But he's also put the team in probation.
Speaker 3: I mean it's probation. I mean, come on the way
Speaker 3: that you know you beat Notre Dame. Zen Dehos kicks
Speaker 3: a field goal. Tony Mason then says, I got to
Speaker 3: scoot on your own probation. Larry Smith comes in and
Speaker 3: then it's then you know, Chuck Sy returns one hundreds
Speaker 3: and shared thing and then we're back on it.
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Speaker 2: How's the patient? Well, he passed away, Okay, but.
Speaker 3: I did a really good job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm sure you've heard that joke. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: surgery was fantastic, but he's still, you know, passed away.
Speaker 2: What do you think the signor I know, you're just
Speaker 2: a kid, you were never born.
Speaker 5: It was rough to watch the someone eras just so
Speaker 5: much hope going into it, the little front runner for
Speaker 5: the Heisman Sports Illustrated cover and just from the first game.
Speaker 2: I'm not even mentioning rich Rod Rich Rod, because that
Speaker 2: was not a blip that point. I considered that to
Speaker 2: be successful in my yeah, yeah, over yeah, just the
Speaker 2: way it ended, it was just kind of strange. But
Speaker 2: people don't want to remember it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I I remember when they hired him. It
Speaker 3: felt like it was a big deal. Oh it was,
Speaker 3: I mean where it was like all right, you as
Speaker 3: ready to go name guy, right, and so that's you know,
Speaker 3: if that's a debacle, is that it didn't didn't turn.
Speaker 2: That you're talking Macavic is the worst one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just in terms of time, we think
Speaker 3: this a public perception and the way that people felt
Speaker 3: about the team at that time, you know, it could
Speaker 3: have been great and just he just he didn't really
Speaker 3: like Tucson.
Speaker 2: No, no, he was better than Tucson.
Speaker 3: You know, you didn't like it here, and I think
Speaker 3: people realize that right away. So, you know, someone I
Speaker 3: think maybe had intentions to you know.
Speaker 2: All these those sources you talked about in the last hour,
Speaker 2: they're going to tell you what the hell.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about? My text are blown up? What
Speaker 3: are you talking about? Get out of here.
Speaker 2: I'll never talk to This is deep throat. We're not
Speaker 2: talking to you ever. Again.
Speaker 3: Don't ever mention my name. No, but I don't you
Speaker 3: know I forty fifty years ago, Tony Mason. You know
Speaker 3: that's long as you know, people remember the good times
Speaker 3: like big wins.
Speaker 2: Just just then from one of our listeners, from one
Speaker 2: of you ain't beating Notre Dame under Larry Smith.
Speaker 3: Oh really, well, so could you change your tunes? Him?
Speaker 3: Tony Mason was the worst. Come on, let's get him
Speaker 3: out of here. God damn. But it's not a fifty
Speaker 3: year trajectory of just mediocrity.
Speaker 2: Well, for the old timers that listen to us, I
Speaker 2: know that you're out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody ever sixty five.
Speaker 2: It's right our right, our reel house of sile.
Speaker 3: Appliment with your doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that box that comes and tells to
Speaker 2: you this age. If you want to call and give
Speaker 2: us your thoughts on who kind of put you on
Speaker 2: the heater? Is it someone? Is it who's the worst eater? Macavic? Someone?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Tony Mason, who.
Speaker 3: Knows someone stoops?
Speaker 2: Macovic Mason someone Macovic uh and Brennan. I mean, because
Speaker 2: we're people are saying this is this is me hard
Speaker 2: to get out of.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, none of those guys had this, you know,
Speaker 3: level of talent leaving every year. I mean you could
Speaker 3: you could hopefully you know what, do you know you
Speaker 3: can tell people that you're, hey, we're building talent. You
Speaker 3: got to give my talent two or three years to
Speaker 3: hit and now he's got you know, you got to
Speaker 3: get my talent. You know, two or three games, don't
Speaker 3: don't screw it up, you know, two or three games,
Speaker 3: and then they start looking ahead and people are like,
Speaker 3: so I think, you know it's going to be tough
Speaker 3: for fans because you're gonna expect immediate results. You know,
Speaker 3: Colorado pivoted quickly, you know a s U. I mean
Speaker 3: it's like you look at you look an hour and
Speaker 3: a half up north and you're like, hey, they did
Speaker 3: you know they did it? Why can't we? And is
Speaker 3: that a coach?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 3: Is that an a d Okay?
Speaker 2: So, so I got another text from from our partner
Speaker 2: because Jason, who's that Tim Bentley guy? Literally Smith beat
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Mason was not a disaster because he just
Speaker 2: jay about that and Ben Lindsay was the ultimate be
Speaker 2: He doesn't count because he's not.
Speaker 3: You know, that's just you remove him.
Speaker 2: No, but he's I guess he's the guy that we're
Speaker 2: going to compare with everybody. Well, he didn't Ben Lindsay
Speaker 2: the football program exactly. You know, he could have been
Speaker 2: into a verb got got lindsayed, right, right, okay, we'll
Speaker 2: see you said who Yeah, you think, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know enough about the Mason Era because it was
Speaker 2: a bad part of in eighty two and they know that.
Speaker 2: And Jay says, not so much.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 2: Someone to me was just he didn't give a crap.
Speaker 2: I mean he was. He made seven and a half
Speaker 2: million dollars to say goodbye. They gave him that. Uh,
Speaker 2: and he's you know, he didn't care. And then you
Speaker 2: all know the backstory right of things going off the field.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, hell, good, good for you, good
Speaker 2: for you, pull off some Houdini act, got paid for
Speaker 2: it and see you later. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, one one A, I'll live in
Speaker 3: that one and one A, which is your one in
Speaker 3: one A which is Macavicans.
Speaker 2: And that's fair.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. Kind of depends on which air
Speaker 3: broke your heart the most.
Speaker 2: We've talked about the look look good, play good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh you can see that with someone. He looked
Speaker 5: a little bit. He didn't look the heart.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no.
Speaker 2: He was hobbled sleeves, sweatpants and walked. That was just
Speaker 2: because he was injured. But yeah, he didn't look the part.
Speaker 3: Did jet jet did jed?
Speaker 2: He was he was your high school across country coach
Speaker 2: that looked like that was on the side. He was tennis.
Speaker 2: He didn't look at the traditional No, he looked more
Speaker 2: than someone Okay, okay, And and what about Brendon, What
Speaker 2: give you that appearance?
Speaker 5: And there's a there's a lay factor that I have
Speaker 5: to you one of those math for you know, that's
Speaker 5: a more issue with the lay. It's just different. And
Speaker 5: when you're losing games and point back of it in
Speaker 5: his suits.
Speaker 3: And his suits and you know, and his radio his
Speaker 3: radio shows that he did and we partnered with him
Speaker 3: on Channel nine, and he just he didn't like us
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: He had already gone beyond this. It was beneathid well,
Speaker 2: look at look at the people said this morning with
Speaker 2: Belichick that the job is beneath him. But he's there
Speaker 2: and he's going to do the job. But when you're
Speaker 2: the eight time Super Bowl champ, right, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have no criticism. Hey, you take the job.
Speaker 2: More power to you. With some people this morning say
Speaker 2: it's been easy. Why are you doing that? Compete people
Speaker 2: who compete, guess what they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he wants to coach. I think he
Speaker 3: wants to show that he could do it on all levels.
Speaker 3: You know, some of those most successful coaches you know,
Speaker 3: had success at all levels. You know, people say, well,
Speaker 3: he's not a Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson won in college
Speaker 3: and and the pros, you know, and a few of
Speaker 3: those people. So maybe he wants to do that, you know.
Speaker 3: Also here, maybe wants to set his kid up. You know,
Speaker 3: he wants to see well, I think that's that's part
Speaker 3: of it, you know, and he wants to do that.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, he's given North Carolina a little bit
Speaker 3: of you know, some publicity, get some high profile kids.
Speaker 3: You know, you can turn we just said it three
Speaker 3: minutes ago. You can turn a program around in a year. Yeah, now,
Speaker 3: And so maybe he hits it big for a couple
Speaker 3: of years and then says, hey, I showed you I
Speaker 3: could do it. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: Is gonna have his prescommence with the new acc here
Speaker 2: in about thirty five minutes. You'll talk about it on
Speaker 2: the other side. But what's the Mendoza line for Brandon
Speaker 2: next year?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: If you if you gave him a year, what are
Speaker 2: your hopes if Desrat gave him another year? Okay, you
Speaker 2: got to go what at.
Speaker 3: Least all right, Look, I mean we can get through
Speaker 3: a bad year and we'll rationalize it probably come March
Speaker 3: when spring football comes around. But what it's got to
Speaker 3: be like seven games? Right, it's got to be seven?
Speaker 2: Six or seven?
Speaker 3: I mean six six is? I mean everybody gets to
Speaker 3: six now, right? I mean kind of with the number
Speaker 3: of games you play. I mean, is it seven or
Speaker 3: eight games? Oh?
Speaker 2: God, that's good?
Speaker 3: Seven seven, I think is the line. I think you
Speaker 3: gotta say, if no, seven, what Seeler?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean what's it cost to buy you out?
Speaker 2: Eight million?
Speaker 5: Probably?
Speaker 2: I really don't know the number, but they couldn't have
Speaker 2: forty eleven? Yep? So what do you think?
Speaker 3: Same?
Speaker 2: The line for him? Yeah is should be six?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 5: Seven is kind of one of those seasons where you
Speaker 5: get like a surprise upset win but gets you to
Speaker 5: a better Bowl. But I don't think anyone should be
Speaker 5: complaining about a six and six season.
Speaker 2: No, not after this year.
Speaker 3: Now, not after this year. But I think you know,
Speaker 3: at seven years, cements him six, he's still on thin ice.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, and then well guess what you have
Speaker 2: to do too? You have to sell that stadium with
Speaker 2: with with that person. You know, I'm not gonna rage
Speaker 2: them because I don't want to rage them. It's not
Speaker 2: my job. But they have to they have to sell
Speaker 2: seats in that stadium. You don't have to make it interesting, right,
Speaker 2: So selling tickets, that's part of it. That well, that's
Speaker 2: a big part of it. Yeah, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: it's you know, they're paying on a lot of money.
Speaker 2: But you know, a big part of it is is
Speaker 2: the outside revenue, you know, but in the seats buying
Speaker 2: drinks and food. And part of the reason why she
Speaker 2: came here or was hired here at a million per
Speaker 2: was was to to to fix the financial problem, right,
Speaker 2: And that's part of it. Got the people in the
Speaker 2: seats gotta have the buy tickets kind of have you know,
Speaker 2: by by whatever concessions and uh, and that's all part
Speaker 2: of it. If you can't do it, Jim, good to
Speaker 2: know you. It was nice to you know. We appreciate
Speaker 2: your time here.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. And uh, I'm sure here's your
Speaker 3: here's your party gifts.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've written a letter like that. We really
Speaker 2: appreciate what he meant to the program.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Have a nice day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you love his family.
Speaker 3: Your your stuff is in a box outside your office.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Leave now.
Speaker 2: No, hey come, I was part of that, one of
Speaker 2: those things, one of my jobs. You know, sure, I've
Speaker 2: been coming on Tuesday and says, you know, thanks, So
Speaker 2: we're moving to somewhere and you're not playing.
Speaker 3: Media is notorious for for walking you out. You know,
Speaker 3: we got a new gym coming in. Your stuff is
Speaker 3: in a box. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh, your servants will be there, don't worry about And
Speaker 2: you got and you got Cobra. It's tough.
Speaker 3: I know, I know now, but I think you know
Speaker 3: that they're gonna give him three years, you know, I
Speaker 3: mean it's it's next year's banker break. Gotta win baby,
Speaker 3: next year break. If you have another down here, they're
Speaker 3: gonna say you're out. So if it's six or seven,
Speaker 3: that's I think that's the number. It's you know, it's
Speaker 3: that's it's over under six and a half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's six, and it just should be six.
Speaker 5: I was just I was going off topic thinking ahead
Speaker 5: to next season. You know they're gonna go to West
Speaker 5: Virginia to Rich Rodriguez. Oh, he's gonna love He's bad,
Speaker 5: just the way he's gonna love that game. If that
Speaker 5: turns ugly.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 2: That's gonna turn out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna say it's the Dave he key game.
Speaker 3: Dave, you gonna go out.
Speaker 2: There and do the coin toss. Yeah, And everybody even
Speaker 2: now speculates what would have been had he kept the job.
Speaker 2: You know, I still think about that. I know Ja
Speaker 2: jas because he thinks the world that he thinks he's
Speaker 2: a very good coach, and I don't disagree.
Speaker 3: I don't either. I think you know, it's easy to
Speaker 3: pull the trigger. You know, people, you know you're not
Speaker 3: moving quickly enough. It's gonna get worse and worse every year, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Okay, we have to Yeah, we've got at a minute,
Speaker 2: two minutes, Okay.
Speaker 5: I just I just think going into that next year again,
Speaker 5: Khalil Tate his my front runner. You have a JJ
Speaker 5: Taylor who has experience under his belt now, but Sean Pointdexter.
Speaker 2: Who's I think I think up Khalil I think he's
Speaker 2: guilty of some of it too. Became a big head
Speaker 2: that the sportsual illustrated thing. He wanted to pass more,
Speaker 2: to show he could pass more. Someone went right with it,
Speaker 2: less running and he wasn't the passer he just wasn't
Speaker 2: They used it horribly and.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I felt bad. I mean, you you know, ultimately,
Speaker 3: you know, we can talk about and judge the team
Speaker 3: and everything, but I always try to remind myself these
Speaker 3: are twenty nineteen, twenty year old kids, and I root
Speaker 3: for them to succeed, you know, personally, I wish that
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 2: You do you root for them the same now than
Speaker 2: you did three years four years ago. I asked for
Speaker 2: a reason because the circumstance now, well, the circumstance down.
Speaker 2: They're making more than you en me together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I mean they're going to be held
Speaker 3: accountable a little bit more than would you.
Speaker 2: Would you hold them accountable more? Oh yeah, if you were,
Speaker 2: if you were me or somebody else right here.
Speaker 3: Making four or five hundred thousand dollars a year, you know,
Speaker 3: now now you're getting paid. Now there's performance. Now there's metrics,
Speaker 3: and you know, so it's I don't disagree. You know,
Speaker 3: you don't just have to meet these benchmarks or we're
Speaker 3: going to have to re evaluate. It's it's it's the
Speaker 3: pro mode. It's coming. I mean, it's it's it's here.
Speaker 3: It's just they got to refine it a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. But these poor kids, you know, they're now,
Speaker 3: they're you know, welcome to adulthood. You're eighteen.
Speaker 2: Do you do you do you cry for Argentina who
Speaker 2: are making four hundred thousand dollars a year?
Speaker 3: Do not cry for them anymore? In fact, I root
Speaker 3: for them. You know, hey, well done. I do think
Speaker 3: they need a little bit of a you know, some
Speaker 3: some structure so these kids they get paid, they have
Speaker 3: some help. Help you.
Speaker 2: We gotta go. Do you think that they want structure? No?
Speaker 3: They won four hundred.
Speaker 2: That's what that's my point.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: We gotta give in body eleven. We're talking about curfew.
Speaker 3: I got t hundred thousand dollars. I want to go out, yes, straight, class.
Speaker 3: We're talking about class. We gotta go all right, Bye,