Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
Speaker 1: of there.
Speaker 2: I was done.
Speaker 1: I wasn't dealing with them.
Speaker 3: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
Speaker 3: that turned me.
Speaker 4: Away the quickest.
Speaker 1: When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
Speaker 1: looked at us.
Speaker 3: And one of the things I remember the most, where
Speaker 3: the eyes were glowing red.
Speaker 1: I see an orb of light. It is just circling
Speaker 1: these steps like it is waiting for me.
Speaker 2: And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.
Speaker 3: They're basically like, what are you talking about. That's seven
Speaker 3: foot up on a tree, peeking around it, and that's
Speaker 3: where I saw the top of the muzzle, noose and
Speaker 3: the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this.
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Speaker 1: talking to me. Thanks for having me. Would you like
Speaker 1: to let the audience know a little bit about yourself?
Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, Like you said, my name is Kevin, and
Speaker 3: I am what you would consider a targeted individual. And
Speaker 3: you know, for those of you that have never heard
Speaker 3: the term targeted individual before, it's connected with another term
Speaker 3: you may be familiar with, which is gang stalking. So
Speaker 3: you know, I'll go back a few years. I would
Speaker 3: say probably about four or five years ago, began hearing voices, okay,
Speaker 3: and it was it was very obvious to me at
Speaker 3: the time that the voices were, uh, you know, entirely
Speaker 3: autonomous and sentient on their own. So what the things
Speaker 3: that they're saying were not a part of my long
Speaker 3: term memory or my you know, my my my database,
Speaker 3: you know, of memories and understanding like a lot of
Speaker 3: things that they were saying. I would have to I
Speaker 3: would have to look up and do Google searches on people, places, things, ideas, ideologies,
Speaker 3: theological views, world views, and like I'm like, I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't know what the heck this is. And then
Speaker 3: simultaneously it began happening to my girlfriend. So you know,
Speaker 3: it was like almost like a contagious psychosis or like
Speaker 3: a shared psychosis. And it started off almost like just narrating,
Speaker 3: you know, just narrating in the present moment, and eventually
Speaker 3: it turned into just very personal conversation. You know, my
Speaker 3: inner monologue became an inner dialogue, and to the point
Speaker 3: where I could actually hear my own voice in my
Speaker 3: mind speaking with three other individuals at all times, two
Speaker 3: males and a female, and the male the one male
Speaker 3: and female sounded to be about my age, and the
Speaker 3: other male sounded probably to be older, maybe in his
Speaker 3: I'm forty four, so I'd say he's probably sounded to
Speaker 3: be in his fifties or sixties, and seemed to be
Speaker 3: like the the one that was in charge of the
Speaker 3: other two, very very bizarre, and you know, it just
Speaker 3: became like a like an open dialogue, and then it
Speaker 3: took a very negative, malicious turn, to the point where
Speaker 3: things that were being said were just very you know,
Speaker 3: crude in nature and and harming in nature, so you know,
Speaker 3: and and again I repeat this that you know my
Speaker 3: girlfriend was going through this at the same time, and
Speaker 3: you know a lot of times what happens with this
Speaker 3: is you know the things are being spoken to you,
Speaker 3: but they're in like a deeper recess of your subconscious
Speaker 3: or your unconscious, and if you don't hear it, it
Speaker 3: simply registers as a notion of your own cognition, and
Speaker 3: you're almost inclined to follow through with it, right, So
Speaker 3: you know, as time went on, it what happened was
Speaker 3: they almost began running a what I referred to as
Speaker 3: in an experiment exposure therapy program, and exposure therapy is
Speaker 3: a it's a form of cognitive behavior therapy where an
Speaker 3: individual is introduced to their deepest fears, usually in a
Speaker 3: safe environment. So what would happen in my mind was
Speaker 3: that entire recreations of things that I was holding onto
Speaker 3: resentment for, things that I was feeling guilty about or
Speaker 3: remorseful for in my past were completely played out in
Speaker 3: my mind. And I'm talking ex girlfriends, ex employers, childhood friends.
Speaker 3: I mean just entire scenarios where I would have to
Speaker 3: kind of replay and for some of these people in
Speaker 3: my mind, asking for forgiveness or you know, trying to
Speaker 3: justify my behavior, you know. So it it really kind
Speaker 3: of forced me to face a lot of things that
Speaker 3: I had been unwilling to face in my life. So
Speaker 3: you know, kind of fast forward. You know, once I
Speaker 3: kind of got through that phase, then it began taking
Speaker 3: on a whole other phase where you know, I was
Speaker 3: being exposed to like my fear of other people's opinions,
Speaker 3: you know, that was a big thing for me. I
Speaker 3: always had a very deep fear of what other people
Speaker 3: thought about me. So and I lived my life, you know,
Speaker 3: through this pretentious perception as if you know, I was
Speaker 3: so insecured and uncertain about myself that if I could
Speaker 3: convince you in your mind that I was this particular person,
Speaker 3: well then I could be convinced in my mind that
Speaker 3: I was that person, and I felt worthy, you know,
Speaker 3: I thought like I have value in that. But it
Speaker 3: was all live, So all the statements began revolving around
Speaker 3: or you know, they would start off with the pretext
Speaker 3: everybody here thinks, and it didn't matter what it was, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, I could I could have the thought, you know,
Speaker 3: I want to I want to go for a drive
Speaker 3: and immediately the voices of which I'm in. Everybody here
Speaker 3: thinks you should go for a drive. Everybody here doesn't
Speaker 3: think you should go for a drive, right, And when
Speaker 3: you're faced with that, you really just learned to start
Speaker 3: ignoring that. You know, You're like, I don't really give
Speaker 3: a shit what other people think about me. So then
Speaker 3: it moved on to a phase where I literally felt
Speaker 3: as if my mind was being torn into, as if
Speaker 3: the polarities of being a human, you know, the the
Speaker 3: the the extremes that we face good evil, pretty ugly worthy, worthless, stupid, smart.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was just being torn between
Speaker 3: these two. So at all times, and I'm telling you
Speaker 3: this went on for months and months and months. There
Speaker 3: would be multiple voices, and the one voice would say,
Speaker 3: I mean some of the craziest stuff, like one small
Speaker 3: step for man one giant leap for mankind. And you know,
Speaker 3: hearing me say that to you now, you're like, what
Speaker 3: the hell does that mean? But in your head, when
Speaker 3: you're really trying to find some sort of pacification for
Speaker 3: you know, for this confusion, you're like, oh, that must
Speaker 3: mean I'm doing good, you know, you know, like I'm
Speaker 3: really onto something extraordinary here, and then immediately they would
Speaker 3: be like, you're so stupid, right, and then it was
Speaker 3: like you're the smartest guy in the room, You're the
Speaker 3: dumbest piece of shit we've ever met. I mean, right
Speaker 3: after one, right after the next. And if you have
Speaker 3: an emotional attachment to what is being said to you
Speaker 3: and you continue to follow through this, you will quite
Speaker 3: really tear yourself into right. So again exposure therapy, and
Speaker 3: what you really have to do with this is learn
Speaker 3: how to not have an attachment to what is being
Speaker 3: said to you, right. You really have to seek your
Speaker 3: your present moment's self and the reality of who you
Speaker 3: really are in this present moment, right in the middle
Speaker 3: of all the extremes. Otherwise, you know, as long as
Speaker 3: you continue to have an attachment to them, you're just
Speaker 3: going to drive yourself insane, because as soon as you
Speaker 3: have an attachment to one extreme, they're immediately going to
Speaker 3: hit you with the next extreme. Or you can have
Speaker 3: a very simple thought like you know, I want to
Speaker 3: go to Wendy's, right, and then you're immediately bombarded with
Speaker 3: a variety of voices. Why do you want to go
Speaker 3: to Wendy's. You don't like Wendy's, wendy sucks, Wendy's going
Speaker 3: to make you fat, Wendy's has terrible feard. You can't
Speaker 3: afford Wendy's. Why are you spending all your money at Wendy's.
Speaker 3: You love Wendy's. It makes it very difficult. Like most
Speaker 3: people that experience this, they have to hold off on employment.
Speaker 3: It's very difficult to hold a job while you're going
Speaker 3: through this in your mind. So let you know, kind
Speaker 3: of go into the gang stalking aspect of this. So
Speaker 3: again another term that people may not be familiar with,
Speaker 3: gang stalking. So gang stalking is when a group of individuals,
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, harass you right whether it's with workplace harassment,
Speaker 3: or it's with driving up and down your street, honking
Speaker 3: the horn at all hours of the night, motorcycles going by,
Speaker 3: or it could just be a group of people that
Speaker 3: are mobbing you on the street, or or you perceive
Speaker 3: people that are there taking your picture right, or maybe
Speaker 3: somebody's just standing out front of your house, like there's
Speaker 3: all kinds of things. It's ways to make an individual
Speaker 3: uncomfortable right in their own environment, in their own home,
Speaker 3: or even while they're out on the street and it's
Speaker 3: either a means to force somebody out of a community
Speaker 3: or it means to force you into some sort of
Speaker 3: like a rehabilitation center something like that. So I, you know,
Speaker 3: and this has been my experience with gang stalking. I
Speaker 3: never experienced physical gang stalking, right. So for for me
Speaker 3: and my testimony and my experience with this, it was
Speaker 3: all completely in my head. So when you're dealing with
Speaker 3: heightened states of paranoia and you're hearing voices at the
Speaker 3: same time, the voices are can be very very mean,
Speaker 3: and they will actually often say, you know, that white
Speaker 3: truck has passed by three times. Right. And there's a
Speaker 3: an analogy that I like to use, and I call
Speaker 3: it the white truck of apaphenia. Right. So, apiphenia is
Speaker 3: a condition and it's kind of an onset of schizophrenia
Speaker 3: where it's almost like as if you're putting pieces of
Speaker 3: a puzzle together that that don't exist. Right. So, next
Speaker 3: time you're out and you're walking around the street, notice
Speaker 3: how many white cars that you just see in your
Speaker 3: in your daily routine. White cars are everywhere, white truck everywhere,
Speaker 3: White cars are everywhere. Well, if I'm walking down the
Speaker 3: street and night my brain registers a white truck just
Speaker 3: drove by, and I don't actually like pay too much
Speaker 3: mind to it. Well, it's registered in my brain. And
Speaker 3: then the voices will kick in and they'll they'll start
Speaker 3: with the nonsense. They'll say, that's the second time that
Speaker 3: white truck drove by. Keep an eye on that white truck.
Speaker 3: Watch it doesn't come back around the corner again. That
Speaker 3: white truck's out to get you. I bet you. That's
Speaker 3: the FBI, that's the CIA. All this stuff goes on
Speaker 3: in the mind. Sometimes it's heard, sometimes it's not heard,
Speaker 3: but the trigger is already, it's put in place, and
Speaker 3: the next time that you see a white truck, which
Speaker 3: is probably going to be very soon, the trigger is
Speaker 3: set and immediately you feel as if you're being followed
Speaker 3: and that people are out to get you. And this
Speaker 3: happened for me a lot, you know, as I was
Speaker 3: kind of going through this phase. So what was happening
Speaker 3: with me, and I can't speak for the entirety of
Speaker 3: the gangs talking community when I say this, I can
Speaker 3: only speak personally for me, is that my brain became
Speaker 3: aware that it was under observation. It was entirely certain
Speaker 3: that it was not alone. And think about how scary
Speaker 3: of a concept that that is. Because your brain, your mind,
Speaker 3: it's this place of complete and tonal solidarity. Right, you
Speaker 3: can think anything, you can envision anything, and you are
Speaker 3: free of persecution. There is no there's no judgment. Your
Speaker 3: brain's no judgment zone. As long as it doesn't come
Speaker 3: out of your mouth, right, you're safe. Well, get rid
Speaker 3: of that, right, because now your brain is aware that
Speaker 3: it's not alone. And your brain's job is to make order, right,
Speaker 3: that's what it does. It makes sense of things by
Speaker 3: our surroundings, by our understanding, by our memories, by our experiences.
Speaker 3: It creates an understanding of our environment. Well, when something
Speaker 3: like this happens and your brain can't make understanding of it, right,
Speaker 3: it can't make sense of it in order of it,
Speaker 3: what it will do is it will seek an explanation
Speaker 3: outside of itself, because that's what it's doing. That's what
Speaker 3: the brain does. It finds in your environment as to
Speaker 3: why you have this sense that you are not alone, right,
Speaker 3: And what happens is that your mind becomes aware that
Speaker 3: it is under observation and it can't grasp the fact
Speaker 3: that it is not alone. So it seeks an explanation
Speaker 3: outside of itself. And this is why you get people
Speaker 3: that think their neighbors are out the game them. This
Speaker 3: is why you get people that think the police are
Speaker 3: watching them, that the FBI are watching them, that Homeland
Speaker 3: Security is out to get them. That these are all
Speaker 3: heightened states of paranoia with the brain. They can't understand
Speaker 3: what the heck is going on. And that's that's exactly
Speaker 3: what it happened for me. And once I was actually
Speaker 3: able to wrap my head around that fact that my
Speaker 3: body was not under observation, it was simply my brain.
Speaker 3: That's my brain had come in contact with something that
Speaker 3: was foreign, right, or it was something that has has
Speaker 3: already been there, right, And maybe it's just the part
Speaker 3: of our brain that Carl Jung refers to as the
Speaker 3: collective unconsciousness, and that veil between the collective unconsciousness and
Speaker 3: my personal unconscious torn right, making me aware of things
Speaker 3: that I shouldn't have been aware of. So as time,
Speaker 3: you know, so once I had that realization, things really
Speaker 3: calm down for me. You know, I stopped seeking an
Speaker 3: explanation outside of myself. I stopped blaming others for my
Speaker 3: heightened sense of paranoida and fear, and I began solely
Speaker 3: focusing on my mind, right, so like what is going
Speaker 3: on in my mind that is that is causing this.
Speaker 3: And once I was able to do that, that's when
Speaker 3: you know you really start almost I want to say,
Speaker 3: developing a relationship with these voices, because ninety nine percent
Speaker 3: of what they say is complete and total nonsense and
Speaker 3: bullshit and lies. But every now and then, one percent
Speaker 3: of the time you get some actual, like really true insight.
Speaker 3: But the bulk of the insight and the bulk of
Speaker 3: the enlightenment that you get through this is because of
Speaker 3: the lies. Right. So if you're told lie after lie
Speaker 3: after lie after lie, you'll you'll follow down each one
Speaker 3: of those dead end roads and smack your head into
Speaker 3: the brick wall that's at the end of each one
Speaker 3: of them dead end roads, right, But you'll have learned
Speaker 3: something as you went down there, right, And with each
Speaker 3: dead end road that you go down, you pick up
Speaker 3: something else entirely along the way. So that's that's one
Speaker 3: aspect of being a targeted individual, and that's one sign.
Speaker 3: Is one one of the major signs and symptoms is
Speaker 3: that you begin to hear voices that you know are
Speaker 3: not of your own accord. They are entirely sentient, autonomous
Speaker 3: like I said, and intelligent all on their own. They
Speaker 3: will feed off of your present moment thought, but they
Speaker 3: also won't they'll speak of things that are completely unknown
Speaker 3: to you, you know, the individual. Another major sign and
Speaker 3: symptom of being a targeted individual's dream manipulation. I started
Speaker 3: getting very very heavy, lucid dreams where the same voices
Speaker 3: that I hear throughout the day, I'm hearing in my dreams,
Speaker 3: and they seem to be orienting and dictating and constructing
Speaker 3: my dreams. And these dreamscapes, as I referred to them,
Speaker 3: we're entirely oriented towards me. And this fear exposure therapy
Speaker 3: that I had him going through, right, so, you know,
Speaker 3: like I said, it felt like my mind was being
Speaker 3: split in half. So I began having these dreams where
Speaker 3: I was stuck in almost like like a honeycomb kind
Speaker 3: of thing, like a vasoline honeycomb, completely unable to get out,
Speaker 3: almost like a bug caught in a spider's web. And
Speaker 3: I'm struggling, and the more i struggle, the more I'm
Speaker 3: just sinking or I'm getting into a fight with two
Speaker 3: individuals on the street, and the ones pulling my neck
Speaker 3: one way and the other ones pulling my neck the
Speaker 3: other way. You know, these dreams where I'm just being
Speaker 3: corn into and I can't seem to get out, and
Speaker 3: I would wake up in these heightened states of fear. Right,
Speaker 3: And then, to make matters worse, when you wake up
Speaker 3: in these heightened states of fear, the voices are right
Speaker 3: there just to egg you on. You know, you coward,
Speaker 3: You're a complete and total coward. I can't believe we
Speaker 3: picked this guy. This is the guy that you picked.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a waste he is. I mean,
Speaker 3: just absolutely terrible, nightmarish things. Right, So that was a
Speaker 3: big part of it, was the dream manipult. So I
Speaker 3: eventually I came to the understanding, right, and this is
Speaker 3: my understanding and to the belief right that what happens
Speaker 3: is at all times, right, we are dreaming, okay, and
Speaker 3: this has actually proven scientifically. Not to say that you
Speaker 3: and I right now are in a dream, but I'm
Speaker 3: saying that you and I and the recesses of our
Speaker 3: minds are creating a dream. Right. We only visit these
Speaker 3: dreams when we sleep, Okay, But we are at all
Speaker 3: times awake. You know, even while we're awake, we are
Speaker 3: recreating an entirely different perception of this reality. And if
Speaker 3: you look into some of the work that has been
Speaker 3: done by doctor Leslie Ellis, she's a dream clinician, that
Speaker 3: this is her specialty and her and a lot of
Speaker 3: other dream clinicians have found this out through testing that
Speaker 3: at all times we are creating an entirely other reality
Speaker 3: and entire other reality in our minds to help us
Speaker 3: cope with and get through this environmental reality that we
Speaker 3: call earth, that we call you know, life, And these
Speaker 3: realities can be extreme. Think about how extreme your dreams
Speaker 3: can be, right, but each one is a coping mechanism.
Speaker 3: Very fear based dreams are a way for you to
Speaker 3: get through fears in your actual life. Right, very awkward dreams,
Speaker 3: very anxiety were it in dreams? Well, these things are
Speaker 3: still going on even while you're awake. And what begins
Speaker 3: to happen with the targeted individual is that those two realities,
Speaker 3: the one that you're creating in your head and the
Speaker 3: one that is actually here, co mingle. There's there's a
Speaker 3: confluence of these realities. Somehow, there's a part of the
Speaker 3: brain where that that is usually segregated off it's not
Speaker 3: segregated anymore. And your nightmares that you are creating literally
Speaker 3: spill over into your awake state of mind, and you
Speaker 3: begin to hear these voices, You begin to see people,
Speaker 3: You begin to make up entirely different environments that you're
Speaker 3: running through, you know, And it is my belief that
Speaker 3: this is what happens with schizophrenia as well. So I'll
Speaker 3: keep moving forward and we'll kind of step into, you know,
Speaker 3: some of the phases that I went through as far
Speaker 3: as a belief system about what all this was and
Speaker 3: what I was dealing with. So obviously, at first I
Speaker 3: thought it was normal people like, you know, neighbors. I
Speaker 3: thought neighbors were messing with me. I thought my parents
Speaker 3: were in on it. I thought I went through the
Speaker 3: whole list of things, you know, maybe somebody that i'd harmed,
Speaker 3: the next employer, a girlfriend that had, you know, that
Speaker 3: was doing this out of spite, you know, just anybody,
Speaker 3: anybody ran, somebody with money that could afford to do this.
Speaker 3: And then you know, as time goes on and you're like,
Speaker 3: how the heck is this twenty four to seven? This
Speaker 3: is twenty four to seven, there's never anybody there. You're
Speaker 3: looking for cameras in your apartment, you're looking for microphones,
Speaker 3: you're looking for anything hidden, never finding anything, of course,
Speaker 3: but you're losing your mind this whole time. Well then
Speaker 3: you go bigger, Right, Maybe it's the government, right, Maybe
Speaker 3: it's the government doing some sort of satellite surveillance behavioral
Speaker 3: modification program on and experimenting you know, you know, on
Speaker 3: its on its citizens. And then you really have to
Speaker 3: think about that possibility, you know, And and the one
Speaker 3: I'd say one of the main things that got me
Speaker 3: away from that train of thought was the thought, well,
Speaker 3: who the hell am I? Right, Like, I'm some I'm
Speaker 3: some forty four year old forklift operator that you know, Like,
Speaker 3: who am I that you know that? They my my
Speaker 3: senator doesn't know who I am. The mayor of my
Speaker 3: town doesn't know who I am. The freaking librarian over
Speaker 3: at the library, she doesn't know who I am. I
Speaker 3: might know two of my neighbors, and I don't even
Speaker 3: know them by name, right, So I'm like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not really anybody special that this would happen to. And then,
Speaker 3: you know, you try to find a causation for this right.
Speaker 3: Your brain is desperately seeking like, what the hell caused this?
Speaker 3: What did I do? Right? You want to blame yourself,
Speaker 3: what did I do that would have this to me? Right?
Speaker 3: Only to find out that causation is not correlation with this, right,
Speaker 3: And you start talking to people online about it, and
Speaker 3: then you've come to find out that this happens to
Speaker 3: people through a wide variety of means. Right, this, this
Speaker 3: will happen to people because of an accumulation of guilt
Speaker 3: and shame. Right, anything that has kept you tethered to
Speaker 3: your past that is keeping you from moving forward in life. Okay,
Speaker 3: excessive drug use will cause this with with some people.
Speaker 3: Deep meditation is a big one, right, People that are
Speaker 3: daily meditators. Right, And they get into that lower brain
Speaker 3: frequency right before you fall asleep, and they're kind of
Speaker 3: dwelling in their awhile boom, next thing you know, they
Speaker 3: start hearing voices. Now they're fulling engolfed and they target
Speaker 3: an individual kind of experience with this good evil conflict
Speaker 3: of voices that are going on in their head all
Speaker 3: the time. That's a very common one. I recently spoke
Speaker 3: to a guy this past month that vout Christian and
Speaker 3: after a week of fasting trying to get closer to
Speaker 3: his relationship with God. On the last day, Boom, he
Speaker 3: started hearing voices and they started being very very very
Speaker 3: benevolent and evil towards him and saying the same exact
Speaker 3: things to him that they were saying to me. And
Speaker 3: this is the fascinating part about this is that I
Speaker 3: can speak to people from Australia, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Canada,
Speaker 3: South America and all across to America, and we were
Speaker 3: all experiencing the same exact thing and the same things
Speaker 3: are being said. Right, So this goes beyond psychosis, right,
Speaker 3: So we covered that part. We covered the dream manipulation.
Speaker 3: Directed energy is another major sign and symptom of being
Speaker 3: a targeted individual. You are hit with directed energy all
Speaker 3: throughout your body a lot, and whether it comes in
Speaker 3: the form of very precision pinpoint itches like itch spots.
Speaker 3: I used to get itch spots like on the bottom
Speaker 3: of my spine, or like my rectum and the palms
Speaker 3: of my hands, on my legs, my feet, or like
Speaker 3: almost like burn burn spots that you're being burned with
Speaker 3: a poker. I would get that a lot of times.
Speaker 3: Heavy vibrational sequences all throughout my body. I would, uh,
Speaker 3: my diaphragm would just start vibrating and pulsating compulse like
Speaker 3: I mean erratically for a long period of time. I
Speaker 3: went through about a month phase where what is referred
Speaker 3: to as your third eye chakra in your count and
Speaker 3: your crown chakra, it was just flipping out, just vibrating constantly,
Speaker 3: go boom boom boom like I mean, just and then
Speaker 3: you be. I would begin to hear like a high
Speaker 3: pitch frequency that sounded like it's not tonightis. I mean
Speaker 3: I've had tonightis and this is not tonightis? This is
Speaker 3: almost like a tuning fork or lass scraping along the glass.
Speaker 3: And I still hear that. I mean, that's pretty constant.
Speaker 3: But there was a time where that that was twenty
Speaker 3: four to seven and it would just kind of make
Speaker 3: it almost made my head feel like it was swollen, right,
Speaker 3: like my brain was swelling up against my my skull.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what kind of frequency that is
Speaker 3: or where it's coming from or you know, but what
Speaker 3: else cramping or twitching is a big one. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So that's that's another major sign and symptom is people
Speaker 3: getting these directed energy feelings, you know, coming throughout their
Speaker 3: entire body, and of course the voices are correlating with that,
Speaker 3: you know, trumping up the anxiety in the stress level
Speaker 3: that that you're feeling with that. Uh so let's see
Speaker 3: directed energy that the voices. That's another big one. And
Speaker 3: let's see, let's see, let's see. So I would say
Speaker 3: that a lot of people experience manipulation, you know, of
Speaker 3: other people to a great degree. So, and this is
Speaker 3: a big thing that a lot of targeted individuals have
Speaker 3: to come to the realization of. Is that, you know,
Speaker 3: reality is awareness of this manipulation that occurs. Right. So
Speaker 3: I can't really I don't know, you know, if this
Speaker 3: is just something that happens behind the scenes for all people,
Speaker 3: or this is some recent thing you know. But I
Speaker 3: would say, throughout this entire process, my brain has always
Speaker 3: gone between one of three things. Okay, what is happening
Speaker 3: to me is either entirely humans, right, like humans messing
Speaker 3: around with remote neuro monitoring, or you know, voice to
Speaker 3: skull machinery or satellite weaponry or electromagnetic weaponry, or it's
Speaker 3: non human intelligence. And that's a very broad umbrella term, right,
Speaker 3: because that could be anything from angels and demons to
Speaker 3: gin to skin walkers, to aliens and extraterrestrials to interdimensional
Speaker 3: entities too. I mean that's a you know, that could
Speaker 3: be anything, or is it a combination of both. Has
Speaker 3: Man done something that has exasperated this influence of NHI
Speaker 3: on on humans? Is Man in some sort of an
Speaker 3: agreement with NHI to get people geared up and ready
Speaker 3: for some sort of disclosure that's happening. You know, I
Speaker 3: don't want to get into too many fantastical conspiracy theory
Speaker 3: things and just kind of stick to my experience, you know.
Speaker 3: But all right, so I'll move on from that eventually.
Speaker 3: And this is where things get, you know, because you
Speaker 3: would think up until that point, well, this is more
Speaker 3: than likely ninety ninety five percent some human behavioral modification program.
Speaker 3: And then things got weird, right as if that wasn't
Speaker 3: weird enough, I began getting very heavy visuals people places
Speaker 3: that was astral projected one night, which is I would say,
Speaker 3: that's the equivalent of being sucked out of your body.
Speaker 3: And it's the same feeling that you have at the
Speaker 3: peak of a roller coaster as you're getting ready to
Speaker 3: go down that butterfly feeling that just encompasses your entire
Speaker 3: body and then you're taken out of your body. You
Speaker 3: just go. And I've been visited by apparitions. So one
Speaker 3: night there was a blue entity that just appeared out
Speaker 3: of nowhere and took it. And I say it because
Speaker 3: the feeling that I got from it was very benevolent
Speaker 3: and caring and compassionate. So I immediately associated those kinds
Speaker 3: of emotions with the female presidents, because that's not the
Speaker 3: sort of emotions, emotional emotions that I have reciprocated with
Speaker 3: the male You know, those are usually emotions that are
Speaker 3: reserved for relationship with a female. But to categorize the
Speaker 3: entity as being male or female would be erroneous on
Speaker 3: my part and wrong. So I'll just see a very
Speaker 3: generle neutral statement and say the entity reached out with
Speaker 3: its thumb and index finger and either pluck something out
Speaker 3: of my forehead or just ran both fingers down from
Speaker 3: my forehead across the bridge of my nose and place
Speaker 3: something into my mouth. And I could feel the energy.
Speaker 3: It was the equivalent of taking an electric toothbrush, that's
Speaker 3: and placing it on your forehead and running it down
Speaker 3: the front of your face, down the bridge down across
Speaker 3: the bridge of your nose and then onto your lips,
Speaker 3: and then I felt the energy go down my throat
Speaker 3: and I remember just laying there and resonating with that,
Speaker 3: and it was it was a very peaceful feeling, like
Speaker 3: there was nothing manevolent or mean or angry or malicious
Speaker 3: about it. And I was just like wow, like I
Speaker 3: really just kind of suck that that movement in. And
Speaker 3: then of course the voices came, and you know, well
Speaker 3: you would you would expect the voices that you're hearing
Speaker 3: to confirm the experience, but not at all, not at all.
Speaker 3: They were like what was that, Kevin? Like you know,
Speaker 3: in my head, I'm thinking like you don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: like you know, like you know, like that wasn't you?
Speaker 3: Like are you just observing things that are happening to me?
Speaker 3: Or like or is this you now you're playing stupid
Speaker 3: like I. So it went from a very beautiful experience
Speaker 3: to then very confusing and then almost kind of frustrating,
Speaker 3: you know. And then I began being visited by light
Speaker 3: orbs and this would this would I this would have
Speaker 3: this started happening. I would say about maybe two months
Speaker 3: after the apparition, just white balls of light about the
Speaker 3: size of a tennis ball or a baseball, about forty
Speaker 3: feet overhead, just zipping by. And you know, at any time.
Speaker 3: It could be eight o'clock at night or two in
Speaker 3: the morning. I work every day from four in the
Speaker 3: morning till twelve in the afternoon, so a lot of
Speaker 3: times I'll get up at two thirty three o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning and I have a hammock out back on
Speaker 3: my deck, and I'll lay on the hammock and meditate,
Speaker 3: and it's like clockwork for the most part. Sometimes it's
Speaker 3: a very fast moving orb like that. Usually it'll start
Speaker 3: off with a bright flash of white light in the sky,
Speaker 3: as if the light as if the sky itself is
Speaker 3: taking my picture right, as if as if a scar
Speaker 3: a star appears out of nowhere and just very bright,
Speaker 3: and then it'll dim out, and then usually within the
Speaker 3: next five minutes, the light orbs will start flying overhead.
Speaker 3: That's that's very frequent. And then sometimes there's very slow
Speaker 3: orbs that will just kind of come out of nowhere,
Speaker 3: you know, the light will go on, they'll very slowly
Speaker 3: pass overhead, just as if as if they're observing and
Speaker 3: saying hi, and then the light will dim out and
Speaker 3: then I and I don't know, I don't know how
Speaker 3: to perceive that. I don't know if they're coming into
Speaker 3: our dimension and they're going out of our dimension, or
Speaker 3: if they are just not putting their light on, you know,
Speaker 3: and then they're being bright and then turning the light off.
Speaker 3: So that's also that's also pretty frequent, you know. And
Speaker 3: if these things were happening several hundred feet up in
Speaker 3: the sky, I could easily just pass it off as
Speaker 3: being a shooting star or satellite or just some other anomaly.
Speaker 3: But not forty feet overhead, not forty fifty sixty feet
Speaker 3: overhead consistently. It's no. Yeah, so yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 3: So so for this experience to start off with the
Speaker 3: you know, the psychosis of thinking, I'm I'm experiencing schizophrenia.
Speaker 3: Now now, mind you, I went through this entire experience
Speaker 3: completely unmedicated and undiagnosed. You know, I went and sat
Speaker 3: down with a psychiatrist and let them know what was
Speaker 3: happening with me. And because you know, I'm exhibiting those
Speaker 3: signs of you know, detachment from reality and my life
Speaker 3: is fine, it's in check and things are going great,
Speaker 3: and there was really no extent, there was no really
Speaker 3: no medical explanation for it. So you know, undiagnosed, undiagnosed
Speaker 3: and unmedicated the entire time.
Speaker 5: But it was.
Speaker 3: Important for me, and I knew, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I knew even going and sitting down with a psychiatrist
Speaker 3: like but it was almost as if for like comforting
Speaker 3: for my girlfriend and for my family as I'm sharing
Speaker 3: with them these these experiences that I'm going through, you know,
Speaker 3: just so that they had, you know, professional's opinion as to,
Speaker 3: you know, what was going on. And so yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean that you know that you know, mind you I
Speaker 3: just gave you a very very condensed version of what
Speaker 3: I've been experiencing for several years now. Yeah. Yeah, So,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if you had any I
Speaker 3: had any questions that you have been kind of jotting
Speaker 3: down throughout that entire spiel.
Speaker 1: Or I've got some questions here in the first one.
Speaker 1: Obviously you've kind of already touched base on it. But
Speaker 1: I know I'll get a question as to why I
Speaker 1: never asked, but like, yeah, have you ever saw if
Speaker 1: like medical professionals about this, I know, most people don't
Speaker 1: because the moment they talk start talking about hearing voices
Speaker 1: or also that they're going to be labeled to schizophrenic
Speaker 1: or crazy or whatever. So a lot of people that
Speaker 1: I've talked to that have had this, they never go
Speaker 1: that route. But everyone that criticizes the show says that,
Speaker 1: why didn't you ask that question?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, and you have every you have every
Speaker 3: every every right to ask that question, as I have
Speaker 3: asked myself that question multiple times, like are you just
Speaker 3: losing your mind? And if it wasn't for the fact
Speaker 3: that this entire experience has been geared towards my my
Speaker 3: benefit and my own lightenment, even even if it was
Speaker 3: done in a very nefarious way, all right, I will
Speaker 3: or in a very amral is what I should say,
Speaker 3: in a very a moral way, it has been entirely
Speaker 3: geared towards my my equanimity and my my fortitude, you know,
Speaker 3: my mental fortitude, and my st length and stability and balance.
Speaker 3: And then of course there's the physical manifestations. As if
Speaker 3: you know that wasn't enough, you know, the the the
Speaker 3: exposure therapy, then the physical manifestations began, you know, with
Speaker 3: the orbs and the apparitions and you know, other things.
Speaker 3: And then, of course, like I had mentioned in the beginning,
Speaker 3: this it was a shared thing, like this began with
Speaker 3: my girlfriend heavily at the same time that I was
Speaker 3: going through it. What had come upon us, you know,
Speaker 3: would come upon me, had come upon her as well
Speaker 3: at the same time. And we were both being manipulated.
Speaker 3: I mean, she was being manipulated heavily, very heavily. And
Speaker 3: I'll give you a quick story something that happened with her.
Speaker 3: I mean, she would get these crazy notions that, you know,
Speaker 3: her children were unsafe, where I had kidnapped her children,
Speaker 3: or that police were pedophiles, or so there's crazy stories.
Speaker 3: One night, she got this insane notion that in a
Speaker 3: parking lot. Now we were on a road trip at
Speaker 3: the time, and we were out in Wyoming. We're right
Speaker 3: at the border of Wyoming in Colorado, and she had
Speaker 3: separated from me. But she got this notion in her
Speaker 3: head that in a parking lot, some random parking lot,
Speaker 3: there was a car that was hers to take, and
Speaker 3: she was to take this car. So she makes her
Speaker 3: way to this parking lot and there's this car sitting alone,
Speaker 3: unlocked with the keys in the ignition in this parking
Speaker 3: lot by itself. So she gets she takes the car
Speaker 3: because she's hearing this and she's you know, it's registers.
Speaker 3: Is like something not of you, of like a higher power.
Speaker 3: That's that's almost like controlling you and telling you where
Speaker 3: to go. So think of like a like a almost
Speaker 3: like an evil intuition or like a premonition, you know,
Speaker 3: like a it's like a it's it is. It's definitely
Speaker 3: like a premonition that you can't help but follow it
Speaker 3: through with, right, because it almost feels good to follow
Speaker 3: through with it, like you're on some sort of a
Speaker 3: higher calling path. So she gets in the car and
Speaker 3: she starts driving. Well it turns into a police chase. Okay,
Speaker 3: so the police have they chase her for god knows
Speaker 3: how long she's in like an O. J. Simpson style
Speaker 3: slow speed police chase. With these cops they throw spike
Speaker 3: strips out and blow out all the tires in the car,
Speaker 3: and then they do not arrest her. They don't arrest her.
Speaker 3: She's never charged with anything. They took her to a
Speaker 3: psych ward and I went and picked her up two
Speaker 3: days later. It was as if the police themselves were
Speaker 3: manipulated to not charge her with anything, because by all accounts,
Speaker 3: she should have gotten fleeing and eluding, grand theft auto,
Speaker 3: you aiding police, I mean a slew of charges. They damage,
Speaker 3: they had to ram her with the police car. She
Speaker 3: wasn't even charged for damages done to their own police
Speaker 3: cars or the car that she stole. Nothing, absolutely nothing,
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, how does that heck does that happen?
Speaker 3: How did she know where to go and find a vehicle?
Speaker 3: And why were the police completely manipulated to not charge
Speaker 3: her with a damn thing? It was just I mean,
Speaker 3: and this is common, right, I mean you think what
Speaker 3: I'm saying is like that's completely like, you know, just
Speaker 3: not common at all and abnormal. No, this is if
Speaker 3: you were involved within the targeted individual community and you
Speaker 3: speak with people about the stuff that they go through.
Speaker 3: It's almost like they're on that show The Great Race,
Speaker 3: where they're being told to go to all these extraordinary
Speaker 3: places across the country and like people are giving them
Speaker 3: stuff and there's like these like it's it's it's fascinating
Speaker 3: and it's scary at the same time to know that
Speaker 3: this sort of thing is occurring, you know, and I
Speaker 3: don't have any sort of an explanation for it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: So I mean, good, keep any other questions, no and
Speaker 3: to and I'm sorry not to completely evage your question,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I did answer it. I actually did go
Speaker 3: and sit down with a psychiatrist. And you know, like
Speaker 3: I said, I'm a perfectly healthy, functioning, fully functioning, healthy,
Speaker 3: forty four year old male that full time job and benefits.
Speaker 3: I have an eight month old daughter at home, very healthy,
Speaker 3: don't drink, don't do drugs. And you know I haven't
Speaker 3: had a drink or at drug in fifteen months. My
Speaker 3: girlfriend doesn't drink or do drugs, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: in fact, this was you know, I used to drink
Speaker 3: and was involved with drugs, you know, prior to that,
Speaker 3: and this thing just I almost had like gay you know,
Speaker 3: gathered to respect for consciousness and the malleability of consciousness
Speaker 3: that I said, no more, no more influence, no more
Speaker 3: even alcohol, nothing, absolutely no influence. Whatsoever did I want
Speaker 3: in my brain distorting my perception of reality.
Speaker 1: The other thing I was going to ask is and
Speaker 1: a note, It's hard to pinpoint it, but when these
Speaker 1: things set in, like when you start hearing the voices
Speaker 1: in everything thing. Yes, when you mentioned like the three
Speaker 1: that you were hearing at first, now how many were
Speaker 1: your girlfriend hearing at the time.
Speaker 3: She wasn't actually like hearing the voices. You know, this
Speaker 3: is the part that's very difficult for a lot of
Speaker 3: people to understand. And this is what I believe a
Speaker 3: lot of the direct cause of gang stalking, and not
Speaker 3: even gang stalking, but mental disorder is like bipolar or
Speaker 3: you know, manic depressive, or any sort of a manic state,
Speaker 3: or even anxiety or panic attacks. Is I firmly believe
Speaker 3: that in the recesses of all of our minds what
Speaker 3: is referred to as the collective unconscious of man right,
Speaker 3: and this is the part of our brain that makes
Speaker 3: prayer possible. This is the part of our brain that
Speaker 3: makes communication outside of ourselves possible. Right that we are
Speaker 3: connected at all times to some other dimension, some other
Speaker 3: you know, outside doors. You know that that that we
Speaker 3: can't see like you know that this is what the
Speaker 3: brain is plugged into. Sometimes something talks back, or at
Speaker 3: all times our brain is communicating. So I mean, because
Speaker 3: I can think clearly of many before this even happened
Speaker 3: to me, many many, many times where I would either
Speaker 3: be falling asleep or I would just be waking up
Speaker 3: and I'm engaged in a conversation. Have you ever had
Speaker 3: this happen.
Speaker 1: Or I've been like engaging with conversation and like fall asleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like as you're waking up, you don't
Speaker 3: ever like as you're coming out of sleep, like you're
Speaker 3: talking you know.
Speaker 1: Where you're maybe maybe once or twice, I don't, Like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't really pay attention to this stuff
Speaker 1: like that too much to know if I have, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've done it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I used to have it all the time,
Speaker 3: you know, like to speak to a lot of people.
Speaker 3: It's very it's very common, like as there as you're
Speaker 3: hitting like that, it's a certain frequency there. It's like
Speaker 3: right at like eight point seven hurts right right as
Speaker 3: you're going into right as you're going into light sleep.
Speaker 3: It's as if there's already a conversation that's going on
Speaker 3: at all times, right. And I used to experience that
Speaker 3: a lot of times as I was coming out of
Speaker 3: sleep or going into sleep. And then so picture that
Speaker 3: spilling over at all times into your awake state of mind,
Speaker 3: and now you're exposed to whatever conversations are going on,
Speaker 3: you know, in your sleep, in your dream state, that
Speaker 3: is now spilt over into your awake state of mind.
Speaker 3: You know, it can become quite depending on your perception
Speaker 3: of reality. If you're a very pessimistic, angry individual, well,
Speaker 3: then that conversation and that reality. You know that that
Speaker 3: that reality that you're creating in your mind is going
Speaker 3: to be a direct reflection of how you now. You know,
Speaker 3: once that spills over, it's going to be a direct
Speaker 3: expression right into your awake state of mind.
Speaker 1: No, the other thing I was thinking about is when
Speaker 1: it comes to the voices or whatever, it's hard to
Speaker 1: pinpoint like where they originate from and why they come
Speaker 1: and everything else. But like, in your opinion, what do
Speaker 1: you think it's about? Like why are you guys like
Speaker 1: when target individuals? Like why are you specifically the ones
Speaker 1: being targeted?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, And there's no part of
Speaker 3: me that views myself as you know, special by any means.
Speaker 3: In fact, most people would prefer that this doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: It's a very torturous, unorthodox, inhumane kind of a you
Speaker 3: know process, right, and for a lot of people, it
Speaker 3: doesn't go. It doesn't go very well, you know, And
Speaker 3: I struggle with this, you know, and we're what we're
Speaker 3: coming down to with that question you just asked, is,
Speaker 3: you know, is consciousness local or is it non local?
Speaker 3: You know? Is is our consciousness entirely taking place within
Speaker 3: our own mind? Or is consciousness taking place elsewhere and
Speaker 3: just being registered in our brain? Right? Are we humans
Speaker 3: basically just a meat sack, you know, a meat puppet
Speaker 3: without consciousness, you know, But then with the influx or
Speaker 3: the introduction of consciousness, now we have awareness. Now We're
Speaker 3: we're not just these instinctual you know, beings. Now we
Speaker 3: actually have have awareness. We have we have a guilty conscious,
Speaker 3: we have, you know, a secure conscious we have you know,
Speaker 3: so you know, these are these are questions that you know,
Speaker 3: have been asked for a long, long, long long time.
Speaker 3: My personal opinion, I'm under the belief that consciousness is
Speaker 3: non local, right, meaning that it occurs elsewhere. And say
Speaker 3: that because of my own personal experience, I've had moments
Speaker 3: with this. It's it's as if so picture you go
Speaker 3: up you're in the mountains, and you go to the
Speaker 3: mouth of a cave, right, and you're standing at the
Speaker 3: mouth of the cave and you, and you, and you
Speaker 3: yell hello, right, and you hear the echo hello, Hello,
Speaker 3: Hello Hello. Right. Well, now I'll picture you go up
Speaker 3: to that cave, and before you yell hello, the cave
Speaker 3: hollers back hello, right, as if it already knew that
Speaker 3: you were going to say hello and respond it. That
Speaker 3: is what this is like, right, And sometimes it gets
Speaker 3: even deeper, right before you even say hello. Maybe in
Speaker 3: your head, you're envisioning a beach scene. Right, well, the
Speaker 3: cave will respond I like the beach. Okay. So these
Speaker 3: are the things that have happened to me that make
Speaker 3: me think that consciousness is non local because my thoughts
Speaker 3: and the things that I envision are responded to prior
Speaker 3: to me noticing that I've even envisioned it, or that
Speaker 3: I've I've even thought it. It's almost like an entanglement
Speaker 3: of thought or you know that is happening in time
Speaker 3: least somewhere else. Right. So I went through a period
Speaker 3: with this for about two months because at first, when
Speaker 3: it first started happening, it was just the voices, and
Speaker 3: then I began to hear my own voice walking to
Speaker 3: the voices, right, And I could plug into it at
Speaker 3: any time and take control of the conversation and associate
Speaker 3: myself with it, or I could just back off and
Speaker 3: go about watching Netflix or whatever and just kind of
Speaker 3: hear it in the background, just this eternal conversation going on.
Speaker 3: And then what happened was they began going through my
Speaker 3: entire memory and they were very categorized about it. Right,
Speaker 3: Let's see, Kevin, you know, you were the same person
Speaker 3: that you were twenty five years ago, right, And then
Speaker 3: they'd go through all my memories and they're bringing up
Speaker 3: stuff that I had completely forgotten about. I mean, just
Speaker 3: completely forgotten about people, places, names, plants that I forgot about,
Speaker 3: co workers, like just things that I mean, I just
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, I've totally forgot about that memory. Kevin,
Speaker 3: you were the same person that you were twenty years ago, right,
Speaker 3: And then we go through all that same person who
Speaker 3: were fifteen years ago, ten years ago, five years ago.
Speaker 3: And this took about a month, month and a half
Speaker 3: to get through all this, and then eventually we got
Speaker 3: we caught up to present moment in time, and this
Speaker 3: was last year that this happened, and they say, Kevin,
Speaker 3: you were the same person that you always were, right,
Speaker 3: And going through that process I had to really relive
Speaker 3: because there, you know, we're I did a lot of
Speaker 3: remorseful stuff. I'm a human being. We all do, We
Speaker 3: all do stupid, stupid stud To be flawed and fucked
Speaker 3: up is to be totally perfectly human, right, So I
Speaker 3: had to relive all these stupid things that and then
Speaker 3: you come to find out I'm normal, Like I'm totally normal,
Speaker 3: and a lot of this baggage that I was holding
Speaker 3: on to, these things that kept me tethered to the past,
Speaker 3: I had no business holding onto that crap because the
Speaker 3: only thing it did was keep me back from being
Speaker 3: the person that I was meant to be. The only
Speaker 3: thing it did was keep me from being entirely Kevin
Speaker 3: or in the in this present moment in time, right
Speaker 3: because I'm constantly tethered to the past, this person that
Speaker 3: I that I was always attempting to hide for no
Speaker 3: other reason than my own sense of embarrassment and shame.
Speaker 1: So I feel like when it comes to consciousness for me,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of alluded to it, but basically I feel like
Speaker 1: there's more than just that we are basically the avatar
Speaker 1: into an extent, like our minds are here, We're just
Speaker 1: the meat suit. Yeah, And I feel like when people
Speaker 1: talk about different planes of reality or astral projection or
Speaker 1: whatever that's your consciousness or some call it their soul
Speaker 1: or whatever it really is your inner monologues, you're basically
Speaker 1: traveling to these other places that we're not stuck here
Speaker 1: in this three D realm of our reality. And I
Speaker 1: think when then, when we're able to achieve that, Because
Speaker 1: some people are able to do this, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to do it, but I've talked with people that
Speaker 1: claim they're able to astral project or transverse through different
Speaker 1: planes of different dimensions reality, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: and they see different beings, they see different types of people,
Speaker 1: they see different things going on. And I've brought this
Speaker 1: up before. It's like, what happens if people that are
Speaker 1: dubbed crazy with schizophrenia or psychosis or anything like that,
Speaker 1: or multiple personality disorders. What if the brain is picking
Speaker 1: up stuff from the other side and we're labeling it
Speaker 1: here as a sickness and illness something wrong with people,
Speaker 1: but they're actually having an ability to communicate with something
Speaker 1: else that we don't physically understand.
Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right, and in most and then
Speaker 3: you know, that's an American thing, you know that, right,
Speaker 3: because in a lot of countries, schizophrenics are immediately taken
Speaker 3: to a shaman, and that shaman it is the shaman's
Speaker 3: duty to cultivate that person, to bring out their healing
Speaker 3: powers and to cultivate them into a way that they
Speaker 3: can benefit the village and talking to the spirit realm.
Speaker 3: And so it's it's it's you know what it is.
Speaker 3: It's big pharma in this country. You're crazy, you hear voices,
Speaker 3: take some medication, keep putting them in a vegetative state.
Speaker 3: You don't need to go that route. And it's and
Speaker 3: it's sad, It really is sad. It's almost like, well,
Speaker 3: we don't know what to do with these people, So
Speaker 3: lock them up and medicate them until they're you know,
Speaker 3: till they can function somewhat, and then let them loose.
Speaker 3: You know, when if you really listen to and I'm
Speaker 3: and again, I can only speak from my experience. I'm
Speaker 3: not speaking on behalf of you know, schizophrenics around the planet.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I can only speak for myself and my
Speaker 3: own experience. But when I listen to the voices they
Speaker 3: always circulated around, not always, but you know, going through
Speaker 3: the process of healing and self awakening and self awareness,
Speaker 3: they always circulated around my self image. Right. And and
Speaker 3: I say this a lot. Self image is so important
Speaker 3: because it serves as a self fulfilling prophecy in that
Speaker 3: who we believe we are in our head will directly
Speaker 3: determine our behaviors, right Like, our actions and our behaviors
Speaker 3: are a direct result of who we think we are
Speaker 3: in our head. So if you don't really know yourself,
Speaker 3: you're not really being yourself. Right. So, and I spoke
Speaker 3: about this on the last podcast that I did, and
Speaker 3: think I brought it up, and they made a great,
Speaker 3: great point. I talk about it often that within every individual, right,
Speaker 3: there is essentially three people. There is your negative self image, right,
Speaker 3: there's your pretend self, and then there's your actual self. Okay,
Speaker 3: So your negative self image is you with all of
Speaker 3: your baggage. It's you with all of your guilt, your shame,
Speaker 3: your embarrassment, your regret, your remorse. Right, this is the
Speaker 3: shit that you don't want other people to see. It's
Speaker 3: the stuff you hide away from, You hide away from
Speaker 3: the rest of the world. Right, and then there's your
Speaker 3: pretend self. This is you on the first eight Okay,
Speaker 3: this is the Facebook version of yourself. This is what
Speaker 3: you want the rest of the world to see. This
Speaker 3: is the person that you sell hoping other people will
Speaker 3: buy so that you'll be confirmed in this partent and
Speaker 3: self right. And then there's your actual self, and this
Speaker 3: is who This is the accumulation of the totality of
Speaker 3: your memories and past actions in their entirety right at
Speaker 3: this present moment in time. This is who you actually
Speaker 3: are at this present moment in time. All the lies apart,
Speaker 3: and problem with us is is that we are so
Speaker 3: afraid of the negative self image that we live an
Speaker 3: entire life and the pretend self and we never actually
Speaker 3: come into our actual self. And the shittiest part about
Speaker 3: that is that the actual self of most human beings
Speaker 3: is beautiful. We're just afraid to face it because we
Speaker 3: think too lowly of ourselves than we ought. We're either
Speaker 3: stuck thinking too highly of ourselves or too lowly over
Speaker 3: ourselves that we ought. We're never right where we want
Speaker 3: to be, you know, And a lot of that is
Speaker 3: eliminated by just letting go of the past, learning how
Speaker 3: to forgive yourself, understanding that you're human. You make mistakes.
Speaker 3: We all do stupid, stupid stuff, and forgive yourself, and
Speaker 3: if amends need to be made elsewhere, then then make
Speaker 3: those amends. The worst they can do is say, I
Speaker 3: hate your guts, but you know what, at least you tried.
Speaker 3: Who cares, right, and move on with your life. But
Speaker 3: as long as you're tethered to that shit in your past,
Speaker 3: you're never going to come into your actual self in
Speaker 3: the present movement. And that's the only place that we
Speaker 3: exist is in the present moment. We don't exist in
Speaker 3: the future. We don't exist in the past. We exist
Speaker 3: right here, right now. We're very rarely here. And that's
Speaker 3: you know, that's the sad reality of being human. You know,
Speaker 3: our worries and concerns just drag us down.
Speaker 1: Do you still happen to hear these voices?
Speaker 3: They have receded greatly, right, And it wasn't only until
Speaker 3: I really dealt with myself, you know, at a very deep, deep,
Speaker 3: deep level, and came into a place of neutrality with it. Okay,
Speaker 3: And what do I mean by that? Right? And I
Speaker 3: hope that anybody that has ever heard voices or is
Speaker 3: suffering from hearing voye or knows somebody that is suffering
Speaker 3: from hearing voices. I hope that they that if any
Speaker 3: part of this message, they pay close attention to this
Speaker 3: part of it, because this was the part that got
Speaker 3: me through. I will still hear them first thing in
Speaker 3: the morning as I'm coming up out of my sleep, okay,
Speaker 3: And I still hear the high pitch ringing, but then
Speaker 3: it goes away, usually within about a half an hour,
Speaker 3: and then it's quiet throughout the day. I might hear
Speaker 3: some muffled things here and there, like I still know
Speaker 3: that the conversation is going on, but I'm not, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to work and I'm doing my thing
Speaker 3: and living my life, and it's not harassment anymore, right,
Speaker 3: And I only came to that point because I stopped fighting,
Speaker 3: all right. So it's almost like, you know, when you're
Speaker 3: hearing the voices, you're constantly stuck either in the role
Speaker 3: of victim or perpetrator. Right, you're either victimized completely by this,
Speaker 3: and you just feel oppressed, sometimes possessed and suppressed always,
Speaker 3: you know, and you'll play that victim role. What was me?
Speaker 3: What was me? I can't you know? I used to
Speaker 3: get to the point where I was literally taking the
Speaker 3: palm of my hand and smashing it into my forehead, screaming,
Speaker 3: get the fuck out, just get like it was that bad. Right,
Speaker 3: So I'm playing the victim role there, or I'm playing
Speaker 3: the perpetrator role. I flipped the script. You know, F
Speaker 3: you I'll do whatever that if I want, and think
Speaker 3: whatever the f I want whenever I want. Don't tell
Speaker 3: me what you know now. I'm doing a power move here, right.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't pay attention to anybody. This is
Speaker 3: my life and my mind, I buy, you know, right,
Speaker 3: looking the role of victim and perpetrator, it's like a
Speaker 3: cat in a mouse game where you can be the
Speaker 3: cat the one minute and the mouse the next, and
Speaker 3: you completely forget which role that you're supposed to be
Speaker 3: in and what you need to do, right, Because what
Speaker 3: happens when you're with that is you're stuck in the
Speaker 3: concept of good and evil, right, and your brain can't
Speaker 3: make sense of how is something that is so negative
Speaker 3: that's occurring to me having such a positive outcome? Right?
Speaker 3: It forces you to face every negative aspect of yourself
Speaker 3: and get over it, and you become that much stronger
Speaker 3: because of it, and you have to come into a
Speaker 3: place of neutrality. Right, And this is the ying and
Speaker 3: yang of life. Right, that you can't have good without evil.
Speaker 3: You can't have evil without good. Without evil, good doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't even know what good is without evil. Right,
Speaker 3: There always has to be a catalyst that pushes us
Speaker 3: towards good. Right. Without Satan, there wouldn't be you know,
Speaker 3: there wouldn't be a God without God. God made Satan like,
Speaker 3: so you really have to get rid of the deemon
Speaker 3: an angel thing, right, which is known as like a
Speaker 3: dualistic mindset. Right, you have to come into a place
Speaker 3: of non duality where you're no longer viewing things as
Speaker 3: good or evil. You're viewing everything in life as a
Speaker 3: means of education and enlightenment. Right, Everything that happened to me,
Speaker 3: everything that happens to us, is strictly for the means
Speaker 3: of education and enlightenment. I am a spiritual being having
Speaker 3: a human experience, and I am here to learn. Right,
Speaker 3: And apparently I wasn't learning what I was supposed to
Speaker 3: be learning because it was made very clear to me
Speaker 3: that our arrested development had occurred. And this is what
Speaker 3: was unfolding. That's you know, your words not mine. So
Speaker 3: they come in, they come in and they act as
Speaker 3: again their words not mine. And abstract accountability, right, meaning
Speaker 3: they will play the role of whatever it is that
Speaker 3: you want them to play, right, and you can you whatever.
Speaker 3: You want them to be demons, they'll take They'll take
Speaker 3: on a demonic role. You want them to be extraterrestrials,
Speaker 3: they'll take on the extraterrestrial role. You want them to
Speaker 3: be interdmentional entities, they'll do that too. You want them
Speaker 3: to play the role of police, they will actually literally
Speaker 3: play the sounds of drones flying around your house. It's
Speaker 3: it's fascinating that they can be anything and everything and
Speaker 3: nothing simultaneously. Right. So this is this is where you
Speaker 3: really you have to kind of come into grips with
Speaker 3: this is that it is an abstract accountability, right. You
Speaker 3: have to come into a place of self assuredness and
Speaker 3: self worth and self centered with within yourself and it
Speaker 3: is up to you to give that abstract accountability value
Speaker 3: or not value, because that's what abstrac is. It's something
Speaker 3: that has that is completely void of value or has
Speaker 3: the utmost of value, depending on your perception. Towards it, right,
Speaker 3: So that that's the mindset that needs to be given
Speaker 3: to this thing, Right, that's you have to come into
Speaker 3: a place of of you're almost like you're stuck in
Speaker 3: quickstand and the more that you fight and struggle with
Speaker 3: this thing, the more that you're just going to sink
Speaker 3: into despair. And and that's that's what got me through
Speaker 3: to the point where I'm at, where I'm at now,
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I mean it was a horrific, horrifying, tortuous, beautiful,
Speaker 3: absolutely beautiful, life changing event.
Speaker 1: Would you say you are in the better now than
Speaker 1: what you were beforehand?
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent. I mean one hundred and fifty percent.
Speaker 3: To go from where I was right on the brink
Speaker 3: of insanity with this thing, I mean, I mean both
Speaker 3: my girlfriend and I were both on the brink of
Speaker 3: insanity with this, and then to go from that to
Speaker 3: where we are now, you know, just a much better couple,
Speaker 3: contributing members of our community. You know, just normal, healthy, happy,
Speaker 3: you know, living just get up and go to work
Speaker 3: and fully insured and hiking on the weekends and camping
Speaker 3: and family, ties and friends and you know, money caught,
Speaker 3: you know, not not that the material things matter, but
Speaker 3: these are the you know, the fruits and the accumulation
Speaker 3: of just being a normal, balanced individual. You know. But
Speaker 3: it wasn't like that. And so the Reddit community that
Speaker 3: I started is called positive TI, you know, positive Targeted Individual,
Speaker 3: positive TI, and I have made up my goal within
Speaker 3: that community to help others get through, right. And one
Speaker 3: of the biggest things that I do is I'm very
Speaker 3: face to face, Okay, So I do face to face
Speaker 3: interviews with other targeted individuals and this shows them because
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of them are still under the
Speaker 3: belief that the government is out to get them, that
Speaker 3: the government is targeting them. So they want anonymity, you know,
Speaker 3: they don't want to show their faces. So I show
Speaker 3: my face. I'm on Facebook, I'm on Reddit, right, most
Speaker 3: people on Reddit are anonymous. I have my face posted
Speaker 3: with my my you know, my username on there. I
Speaker 3: do YouTube videos with other targeting individuals that have come
Speaker 3: to the same realization that I have that this is
Speaker 3: an exposure with therapy program. They were in the same
Speaker 3: set of circumstances I was, and now they're all the
Speaker 3: better for it. And now they're starting to experience our
Speaker 3: normal activity the same as I. You know, fascinating. I
Speaker 3: did an interview and it's just a kind of a
Speaker 3: little side note here. I did an interview a few
Speaker 3: weeks ago, about four weeks ago with a guy in Italy,
Speaker 3: and he has a subreddit called oti r, which is
Speaker 3: objective targeted, targeted individual research. Right. So he moved from
Speaker 3: Russia to Italy, and it was and he didn't speak Italian, right,
Speaker 3: But it was in Italy that he began to hear
Speaker 3: voices and he was and he didn't speak Italian, but
Speaker 3: he was hearing the voices in Italian. So he had
Speaker 3: to start using Google Translator and buy an Italian to
Speaker 3: Russian dictionary, only to find out that the things that
Speaker 3: were being said to him were the same exact type
Speaker 3: of statements that were being said to everybody else, which
Speaker 3: is blows my mind, absolutely just blows my mind. That
Speaker 3: I still when I think about that, I can't quite
Speaker 3: wrap my head around that. It's very weird, very very weird.
Speaker 1: Especially if he's in Italy doesn't speak Italian, they're speaking
Speaker 1: to him in Italian, so it's like it's a regional thing.
Speaker 3: They know, that's what they speak in that area. Exactly
Speaker 3: blows my mind. So just something real quick throw out there.
Speaker 3: I recently came up with a Again, you know, I
Speaker 3: take a very therapeutic approach with this with my community,
Speaker 3: So I stay away from all the talks about technology
Speaker 3: and who the source is, because those things are just
Speaker 3: used to confuse the individual, right the more that and
Speaker 3: what I've what I've found with is that you know,
Speaker 3: and I use a quote by Socrates a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: I know that I am intelligent because I know that
Speaker 3: I know nothing. Right. So when you can say that
Speaker 3: to yourself, you know, I don't really know. Well, now,
Speaker 3: what you're doing is you're coming into a place of
Speaker 3: humility where you're releasing your arrogance, right, because for as
Speaker 3: long as you are enslaved to a particular belief as
Speaker 3: to what the source is, you have an emotional attachment
Speaker 3: to that belief. Right. So I came up with almost
Speaker 3: like a twelve step program for targeted individuals this past week.
Speaker 3: So I'll just read off like the twelve steps to
Speaker 3: you real quick. And so number one was we humbly
Speaker 3: admitted ignorance as to what the source of bar affliction is. Right,
Speaker 3: That's the biggest step, and most people, unfortunately are still
Speaker 3: stuck in that stage, right, because they believe it's the government.
Speaker 3: Well now you're angry, right, Anger is you're all consuming
Speaker 3: motto in life, right, all right, So you need to
Speaker 3: get over that. You need to just admit to yourself,
Speaker 3: I don't know what this is, nor do I expect
Speaker 3: myself to know, but I'm willing to learn. That's a
Speaker 3: big step just to just to cultivate that mindset. So
Speaker 3: number two is we set the intention to not respond
Speaker 3: to this experience in a way that would cause emotional
Speaker 3: or physical harm to our others or ourselves, right, because
Speaker 3: it gets very very you almost want to get violent, right,
Speaker 3: And again this is a means to keep people from
Speaker 3: assuming that it's their neighbors or confronting their loved ones
Speaker 3: saying that you're doing this to me, okay. And number
Speaker 3: three is we came to understand that our mind is
Speaker 3: under observation. Because for as long as you believe that
Speaker 3: your body is being observed, you're going to seek an
Speaker 3: explanation outside of yourself. You have to come into the
Speaker 3: full realization that this is happening entirely within your mind
Speaker 3: and that your mind is connected elsewhere, all right, And
Speaker 3: then you can really get down to the nitty gritty
Speaker 3: work that's all within your mind. So number four, we
Speaker 3: set the intention to abstain from all substances that juristically
Speaker 3: altered our perception of reality. Right, because if you're messing
Speaker 3: with your mind and you're doing drugs, you're drinking, you're
Speaker 3: not doing yourself any benefits and the voices are only
Speaker 3: going to get that much worse. Okay. Number five, we
Speaker 3: began to cultivate a spiritual and philosophical foundation based on
Speaker 3: precepts that truly resonated with us. So here's a very
Speaker 3: interesting part about this. Not at any single point during
Speaker 3: this entire thing, was I influenced to believe any one
Speaker 3: thing spiritually or philosophically. Right. So I was raised Christian,
Speaker 3: and you know, but I would say around twenty seventeen
Speaker 3: I really started getting in the Buddhist philosophy and that
Speaker 3: resonated with me on a very deep level, very deep level,
Speaker 3: and I started applying Buddhist philosophy to my life. So
Speaker 3: when this happened, there were moments where I was like,
Speaker 3: this is demonic, right, and I would like cry out
Speaker 3: to Jesus to no avail or like, because you know
Speaker 3: what Christianity doesn't really resonate with me, right, And it
Speaker 3: was known. But then when I started practicing my Buddhists,
Speaker 3: my Buddhism again, right, and really getting into the mindfulness
Speaker 3: of it and practicing the eightfold path, and you know
Speaker 3: what a help, I mean, what a tremendous, tremendous help
Speaker 3: that was. Right. So I was never once steered to
Speaker 3: believe any sort of a weird political ideology or political
Speaker 3: belief or nothing like that. Absolutely it was. It's everything
Speaker 3: is geared towards the individual themselves and becoming the most
Speaker 3: whole version of yourself that you can be. Number six,
Speaker 3: Through mindfulness meditation, we sought detachment from emotional polarities. So,
Speaker 3: like I said, when your brain is constantly torn between
Speaker 3: this or that ugly, skinny, evil, good, stupid, you know
Speaker 3: you have to learn to detach from that because as
Speaker 3: long as you are have a connection or an attachment
Speaker 3: to these emotional polarities, you're going to be torn in
Speaker 3: half constantly, over and over again. You have to find
Speaker 3: yourself right in that middle path, right in that middle way.
Speaker 3: So number seven, we came to understand that reality is
Speaker 3: awareness of manipulation. Once you've come into this awareness that
Speaker 3: how susceptible the human mind is to manipulation. Right, that's
Speaker 3: a game changer. Well, then you start questioning, well, how
Speaker 3: much of my nefarious activity in the past am I
Speaker 3: to be held accountable for? You really start getting into
Speaker 3: the question of free will. How much free will do
Speaker 3: we actually have as a human being? How much of
Speaker 3: our lives and our daily activities and our thought processes
Speaker 3: are actually being influenced by some other source outside of us. Right,
Speaker 3: So that's a tough pill to swallow, because you want
Speaker 3: to believe that your choices are yours, You want to
Speaker 3: believe that your thoughts are yours, and this experience has
Speaker 3: showed me that that is just simply not true. Right,
Speaker 3: it is not true at all? Are my My contemplation
Speaker 3: never went without commentary, Right, My reasoning never went without
Speaker 3: rebuttal like that, It's just I was heavily influenced. So
Speaker 3: then you could, you know, you start wondering, like how
Speaker 3: long has this been going on? Like what how much
Speaker 3: accountability am I to take for manipulation that has happened
Speaker 3: in the past, Which leads us into the next step. Right,
Speaker 3: with the understanding that manipulation occurs, we forgave ourselves from
Speaker 3: all previous wrongdoing. All right, you got to let it go.
Speaker 3: That's not something that you can be that you can
Speaker 3: glue yourself onto, right, you got to let go of
Speaker 3: the past. Right. So a lot of this is learning
Speaker 3: how to become unfettered and untethered from our old way
Speaker 3: of life. Okay. So and then number ten, I'm sorry
Speaker 3: number nine for the sake of those that are unaware.
Speaker 3: When prompted, we've made amends to people that we have harmed,
Speaker 3: all right, So this is just having face to face interaction,
Speaker 3: right with people. This is integrating back in the society,
Speaker 3: coming out of isolation, making amends. Okay, even though you
Speaker 3: have the awareness that manipulation happens in the minds of people,
Speaker 3: so what, all right, that does not mean that you,
Speaker 3: at this present moment of life get to live your
Speaker 3: life with licentiousness, to sin, with licentiousness, to just do
Speaker 3: whatever the hell you want. What this means is that
Speaker 3: now you have come into a place where you understand
Speaker 3: that negative influences occur. Right, And I know a lot
Speaker 3: of people here in this are probably like, this guy's
Speaker 3: out of his mind. Well, if you can look at
Speaker 3: it right from a theological perspective, right, because we've been
Speaker 3: taught since we were young that angels and demons occur. Right,
Speaker 3: And if you want to look at Buddhism, there's there's divas.
Speaker 3: If you want to look at Muslim or Islam, there's
Speaker 3: what are they jin Right, So it doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: historical scriptural context, your documentation you want to look at.
Speaker 3: There has always been in human history some sort of
Speaker 3: documentation of an interdimensional influence occurring in the minds of man.
Speaker 3: Always right, This target individual experience makes that from believing
Speaker 3: to knowing. It's a big step. There's a big difference
Speaker 3: between believing that this sort of thing happens and knowing
Speaker 3: one hundred percent without a shadow of a doubt, yes,
Speaker 3: this shit happens completely right, your mind flips out. So,
Speaker 3: but a lot of people, they may believe it. They
Speaker 3: believe by faith, right, the assurance of things, hope for right,
Speaker 3: as described by the Book of Hebrews in the Bible,
Speaker 3: the assurance of things hope for so they believe by faith. Right,
Speaker 3: But we know, I just I know, and we know.
Speaker 3: So for those that only believe, you got to make
Speaker 3: amends to them. You have to go and you have
Speaker 3: to start integrating yourself back in society and you know,
Speaker 3: touch base with people and you know whatever it is
Speaker 3: it's holding you back. This this is a process of
Speaker 3: forgiveness and letting go of guilt. It's a process of
Speaker 3: forgiveness and letting go of regret, all right, and moving
Speaker 3: forward in life. So yeah, that was st to nine.
Speaker 3: So step ten we set the intention to remain in
Speaker 3: the present moment, untethered to our previous way of life.
Speaker 3: So once you let that stuff go, the next step
Speaker 3: is to remain present moment minded at all times, because
Speaker 3: what the voices will do is they'll constantly try to
Speaker 3: bring you back to that shitty stuff that you've done
Speaker 3: or the embarrassing moments, right, And it takes time. It
Speaker 3: takes a lot of time to be present moment minded
Speaker 3: at all times. It takes meditation, and it just takes
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of mindfulness, you know. So
Speaker 3: like the l mantras were a big thing for me.
Speaker 3: I had to go through mantras every day, day in
Speaker 3: and day out, constantly. Number eleven we set the intention
Speaker 3: to never be provoked by external and psychological stimuli. Right,
Speaker 3: So all the things that I've mentioned before, the pokes,
Speaker 3: the prods, the zapps, the way that the voices interact
Speaker 3: with you. You need to set the intention. And when
Speaker 3: I say set the intention, what I mean is just
Speaker 3: make a decision to do this, right, put put it
Speaker 3: on the back burner. But make sure that what's put
Speaker 3: on the back burner something that's nutritious for the mind
Speaker 3: and for the body. Right, Because to just say, yes,
Speaker 3: this is what I'm going to do, well, it's not
Speaker 3: that easy, right, It takes time. But you can't begin
Speaker 3: a process until you set the intention to do it. Okay,
Speaker 3: Like I'm I'm going to go to bed after this, right,
Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah, I mean i have to go
Speaker 3: to bed, but you know, I'm setting the intention to
Speaker 3: go to bed after I'm done with this with this podcast,
Speaker 3: you know. So it doesn't happen unless I set the
Speaker 3: intention to do this. So when I say set the intention,
Speaker 3: I mean just begin begin the steps to do this
Speaker 3: thing right, all right? And then number twelve, we continue
Speaker 3: our cultivation of equanimity and help others achieve liberation by
Speaker 3: sharing our experience and growth and equanimity with this experience
Speaker 3: is the ultimate goal, and equanimity is even this of
Speaker 3: mind it's peace of mind. It's it's it's placidity. Right,
Speaker 3: it's calmness of mind and under any and all circumstances. Right,
Speaker 3: it's a no matter what comes our way, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: The future has already taken care of because the right
Speaker 3: mindset has been cultivated to handle whatever may come our way.
Speaker 3: That's that's what this is all about.
Speaker 1: Now, before we wrap this one up, I was going
Speaker 1: to ask if you would like for anyone to reach
Speaker 1: out to you that might be dealing with this, how
Speaker 1: can they get a hold of you?
Speaker 3: Sure? So the Reddit community, like I said, that's a
Speaker 3: big one. And also on YouTube is where I post
Speaker 3: a lot of my I do like audible versions of
Speaker 3: my Reddit posts, and I also do I had the
Speaker 3: interviews on there. And my YouTube channel is at Kevin Orr,
Speaker 3: which is my name k E v I n O
Speaker 3: R R one nine three five all right, so anybody
Speaker 3: can go on there at any time. And I have
Speaker 3: a vlog on all about understanding how to work through
Speaker 3: the voices, understanding the different stages of because by all considerations,
Speaker 3: this is a form of telepathy, you know, how to
Speaker 3: get through that. I do discourses with other targeted individuals
Speaker 3: that are on there, and like I said, a lot
Speaker 3: of my Reddit posts are already on there, and they're
Speaker 3: just an audible form. And the Reddit community is positive,
Speaker 3: you know, and anybody can go in there at any
Speaker 3: time and get involved with the community, or even if
Speaker 3: you don't want to get involved, you can just you know,
Speaker 3: read up on it to try to understand, you know,
Speaker 3: like a you know, try to understand what it's like
Speaker 3: a little bit more. And keep in mind it's a
Speaker 3: therapeutic community, you know, a lot of the targeted individual,
Speaker 3: targeted individual communities that you go into, everybody's still stuck
Speaker 3: on who is this right, you know, and then throwing
Speaker 3: every theory under the sun out there, you know, Satanists,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean some of the some of this
Speaker 3: stuff is just absolute nonsense, and it's and it's a
Speaker 3: shame because for as long as that continues, and individuals
Speaker 3: just going to be completely engulfed with those trains of
Speaker 3: thought and never get anywhere and never do the self
Speaker 3: work that's needed to end this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've talked to a few people and they're still
Speaker 1: in that area where they're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3: They're really struggling with it. Yeah, Well it's you really
Speaker 3: need to get like I said, you need to get
Speaker 3: to a place where you just say, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It really is just that easy. I don't know, nor
Speaker 3: do I expect myself to know. I'm not that smart,
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, and then go from there, you know,
Speaker 3: really go from there. But you got to say that
Speaker 3: to yourself every day, because this is what the voices
Speaker 3: will do, whether you hear them or you don't hear them, right,
Speaker 3: They'll they'll antagonize the shit out of you. Right because
Speaker 3: you'll say, I think it's the government, and then the
Speaker 3: word for word, the voices will say everybody here thinks
Speaker 3: it's the government, will confirm your own stupid thought, right,
Speaker 3: and then you become confirmed in your own head, and
Speaker 3: it's just an it's an unconfirmed confirmation. And that's a
Speaker 3: That's how a lot of this operates, man, It's just
Speaker 3: it thrives in confusion and chaos. And you know the
Speaker 3: steps that I, you know I laid out are a
Speaker 3: way to get through that. There are means of getting
Speaker 3: through that confusion and the chaos. You know, if you can,
Speaker 3: if you can really wrap your head around them. So
Speaker 3: the next probably throughout the next week or two, I'm
Speaker 3: going to start putting out videos going over each step
Speaker 3: one by one and really laying it out, probably doing
Speaker 3: like a good twenty minute video on each step alone,
Speaker 3: and then put that in its own folder so that
Speaker 3: anybody at any time can go through and listen to them,
Speaker 3: and you know, and listen. It's one of those things
Speaker 3: where if it doesn't apply, let it fly. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a it's it's what I ran it by a
Speaker 3: lot of other seasoned and experienced targeted individuals that have
Speaker 3: gotten through the thick of it, and every one of
Speaker 3: them agreed these steps are exactly what the steps that
Speaker 3: they need to go through to get to where they
Speaker 3: are and get back the normal healthy living. So it's tried,
Speaker 3: it's true, it's you know, it's something that I stand behind,
Speaker 3: and you know, my outward expression of my inward change
Speaker 3: is confirmation that these steps work, and that's all I
Speaker 3: want for everybody else.
Speaker 1: I will make sure to leave a link for your
Speaker 1: YouTube channel and stuff in the show notes for anyone listening.
Speaker 3: But awesome.
Speaker 1: I just want to say I appreciate you coming here
Speaker 1: talking to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, thanks for having me on. Man. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: really uh I appreciate the opportunity to come on and
Speaker 3: spread a little bit awareness about a rather awkward, uh
Speaker 3: you know topic.
Speaker 1: And so usually when I I'm not always it's weird
Speaker 1: for me, Like I don't want to make it seem
Speaker 1: like for me because I get doing this show. When
Speaker 1: you hear people to talk about oh, I hear voices
Speaker 1: in my head, this and that. Then you have the
Speaker 1: people that's never experienced that you're not familiar with, whether
Speaker 1: they're like, well, this guy's literally just taken advantage of people,
Speaker 1: and that's not what I'm about. So I'm kind of
Speaker 1: hesitant to interview sometimes because you don't want that stigma,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3: You know, I look at it like this, even if
Speaker 3: even if one person, let's say that there's one person
Speaker 3: that listens to this and they're struggling with this, or
Speaker 3: even they know somebody that is struggling with this and
Speaker 3: they say, hey, listen to this, and that person can
Speaker 3: change their life around the ripple effect of that is immense, right,
Speaker 3: because now you have somebody that's contributing to their community,
Speaker 3: you have a better father potentially, Like I'll just take
Speaker 3: myself for example, right getting through this I'm I'm you
Speaker 3: know my my I have an eight month old at home.
Speaker 3: You know she has a present, sober, loving, caring, employed father. Right,
Speaker 3: My My parents have the best version of their son
Speaker 3: back that they could possibly have. My employer is thankful,
Speaker 3: like you know, my landlord as a great tenant. My
Speaker 3: you know, my neighbors have a neighbor like so. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just one person makes all the difference in the lives
Speaker 3: of a multitude of people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, again, I appreciate you coming on here and talking
Speaker 1: with me, and for anyone out there listening. If this
Speaker 1: is something that interests you, make sure to reach out
Speaker 1: to Kevin. Awesome.
Speaker 3: Thanks, but on that I know.
Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap this one up, so again, thanks to Kevin,
Speaker 1: and thanks for listening.
Speaker 6: Good night, everybody, all right, take care and that's the
Speaker 6: show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations.
Speaker 6: If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels,
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Speaker 1: Just get your message to me. We'll get some schedule
Speaker 1: for a future episode, and just remember the truth, lies,
Speaker 1: and the stories we share, the connections we make. Stay
Speaker 1: curiously open minded. Thank you all for joining us on
Speaker 1: this journey, and until next time, keep questioning, keep seeking,
Speaker 1: and keep exploring the unknown.
Speaker 3: Goodnight, everyone, see sounds in.
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