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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Sentient Code, where intelligence is engineered, autonomy

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<v Speaker 1>is emerging, and a line between human and machine grows thinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Each episode, we decode the algorithms, explore the robotics, and

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<v Speaker 1>examine the ideas shaping the future of artificial minds.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine a machine, right, they can basically break every single

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<v Speaker 2>encrypted banking password on Earth before you've even finished your

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<v Speaker 2>morning coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the ultimate quantum god machine. I mean, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>sci fi promise we've all been sold for what decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, exactly, And the narrative has always been so simple.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just, you know, as soon as we refine

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<v Speaker 2>the engineering quantum computers against scale exponentially.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, unlocking this level of processing power that essentially borders

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<v Speaker 3>on magic.

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<v Speaker 2>But and this is a massive but there's a highly

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<v Speaker 2>controversial new paper from Oxford physicist Tim Palmer. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences,

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<v Speaker 2>and it basically throws a fundamentally universe altering wrench into

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<v Speaker 2>those gears.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does. I mean, we're looking at the very

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<v Speaker 3>real possibility that this ultimate supercomputer actually has a hard

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<v Speaker 3>physical ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a limit that isn't imposed by our clumsy engineering,

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<v Speaker 2>but by the literal physical fabric of the universe itself, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is wild because that completely upends standard quantum mechanics.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. And you know, if you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>and you actively track processing chips for your tech portfolio,

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<v Speaker 2>or honestly, if you're just someone hoping your banking app

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<v Speaker 2>and your private text messages stay secure for the next

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<v Speaker 2>ten years, this matters to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely. Understanding this fundamental limit completely rewrites the timeline

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<v Speaker 3>of our technological future.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the tech industry has basically been operating on this

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<v Speaker 2>assumption that quantum computing is just an open highway right.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, an endless road. But Palmer's analysis suggests there is

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<v Speaker 3>a very concrete barricade approaching and rap it fundamentally changes

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<v Speaker 3>what these machines will ever actually be able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we get to the barricade, we really need

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<v Speaker 2>to understand the highway, Like why did physicists think this

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<v Speaker 2>was unbounded in the first place. We all know the

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<v Speaker 2>basic promise of quibbits, right, superposition allows them to scale

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<v Speaker 2>exponentially rather than linearly like classical bits.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But the problem you're looking at today isn't the

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<v Speaker 3>superposition itself. It's actually the mathematical space where we assume

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<v Speaker 3>those superpositions live.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's unpack that because the standard pitch is always

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<v Speaker 2>that every single added quibot doubles the number of quantum

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<v Speaker 2>states the entire system can occupy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, the math behind that doubling is just staggering.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about a classical computer. It grows linearly. You add

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<v Speaker 3>a transistor, you get exactly one transistor's worth of extra

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<v Speaker 3>compute makes sense. But because a quibot can exist in

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<v Speaker 3>a superposition of states, meaning it encodes multiple possibilities simultaneously,

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<v Speaker 3>adding just one more quibot doubles the complexity of the

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<v Speaker 3>system can handle.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So it's the difference between reading a book page

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<v Speaker 2>by page and reading every single book in a massive

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<v Speaker 2>library at the exact same time exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the time you string together just say, three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred perfectly functioning quibits, the number of simultaneous states that

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<v Speaker 3>system can represent is greater than the number of atoms

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<v Speaker 3>in the observable universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, hang on, if the math says that at three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred quibots, we are tracking more states than there are

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<v Speaker 2>literal atoms in the observable universe. Aren't we just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of admitting that our foundational math has lost touch with reality? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>where is the physical universe actually storing all that information?

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like we just look at a graph curving

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<v Speaker 2>upwards and assume the line goes into infinity, Like we

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<v Speaker 2>handed the laws of physics a blank check.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the exact logical gap that Palmer's exposing. Here

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<v Speaker 3>you hit the nail on the head.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. To understand how the entire scientific community just accepted

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<v Speaker 3>that blank check, you have to look at the map

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<v Speaker 3>we use to chart quantum behavior. It's this abstract geometric

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<v Speaker 3>framework known as Hilbert space.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Hilbert space.

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<v Speaker 3>In standard quantum mechanics, you don't just describe a particle's

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<v Speaker 3>position in normal three D space, you know, you describe

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<v Speaker 3>the entire state of a complex quantum system as a

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<v Speaker 3>single precise point moving through this massive, multi dimensional Hilbert space.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's where it gets really interesting to me. Whenever have

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<v Speaker 2>to try to visualize Hilbert space, I like to think

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<v Speaker 2>of it as this bizarre, endlessly expanding mansion.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I like that, a very weird mansion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like you plug in a few quibits, so you

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<v Speaker 2>get a few rooms, but every time you add a

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<v Speaker 2>single new quivot, the mansion doesn't just get like a

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<v Speaker 2>sunroom built on the back. It literally spawns a million

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<v Speaker 2>new dimensions, hidden hallways, parallel floors.

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<v Speaker 3>The geometry just explodes outwards exactly. And to build on

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<v Speaker 3>your mansion analogy, the crucial part isn't just that those

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<v Speaker 3>rooms exist, it's how the quantum state actually moves through them.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Standard quantum theory relies really heavily on complex numbers and

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<v Speaker 3>continuous mathematics. That implies there are no gaps in the

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<v Speaker 3>floorboards of your mansion, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's smooth.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfectly smooth. The state vector, which is the point representing

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<v Speaker 3>your quantum system, can just glide through those endless wallways

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<v Speaker 3>with infinite smoothness. Every microscopic fraction of a coordinate in

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<v Speaker 3>that geometric space is theoretically available to be occupied.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of like an analog volume dial on

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<v Speaker 2>an old stereo. You aren't just clicking mechanically from volume

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<v Speaker 2>level five to level six.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you can turn that dial to five point one

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<v Speaker 3>or five.

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<v Speaker 2>Point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero one. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>You can make these infinitely smaller microadjustments just seamlessly sweeping

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<v Speaker 2>through an endless range of values.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and the math tells us the quantum system can

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<v Speaker 3>utilize all that continuous, infinitely divisible space to perform computations

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<v Speaker 3>that would take a normal computer millions of years.

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<v Speaker 2>But the map is not the territory, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, humans invented continuous mathematics like calculus and complex

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<v Speaker 3>numbers because they are incredibly elegant and frankly easy to

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<v Speaker 3>work with on a chalkboard. Sure, but the territory of

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<v Speaker 3>the physical universe rarely matches the perfectly smooth map of

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<v Speaker 3>our math. Palmer's reality check is that the physical universe

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<v Speaker 3>simply cannot foot the bill to sustain that smooth, continuous

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<v Speaker 3>volume dial.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially as those Hilbert space dimensions grow into the trillions

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<v Speaker 2>and beyond. Right, And this is where we really have

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<v Speaker 2>to ask the foundational question, why not what actual physical

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<v Speaker 2>law is stepping in to restrict the system, Because if

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<v Speaker 2>Palmer is right, he's just critiquing tech companies building quantum computers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>He is pointing out a massive blind spot in how

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<v Speaker 2>we understand physics itself. Are we just confusing a mathematical

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<v Speaker 2>theory with physical reality.

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<v Speaker 3>He absolutely is pointing that out, and his argument leans

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<v Speaker 3>heavily into the fundamental limits of physical information. In our universe,

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<v Speaker 3>every specific coordinate, every single decimal point of precision requires

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<v Speaker 3>actual physical information to define it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Information isn't free exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about things like the Baekenstein bound or the concept

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<v Speaker 3>of the plank length. Physics tells us there is a

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<v Speaker 3>maximum density of information that any region of space can

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<v Speaker 3>hold before it well collapses into a black hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the universe has a finite granularity. So when your

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<v Speaker 3>quantum system tries to occupy a state that requires tracking

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred decimal places of precision across two to the

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<v Speaker 3>power of three hundred dimensions, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Universe basically just drops the decimals. Yes, it just physically

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<v Speaker 2>cannot hold that much precision. So my analog volume dial

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<v Speaker 2>analogy is actually completely wrong for the real universe.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the universe doesn't have a smooth dial. It has

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<v Speaker 2>a digital button. It only has discrete clicks. It can

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<v Speaker 2>go to level five or level six, but there is

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<v Speaker 2>physically no such thing as five point zero zero zero

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<v Speaker 2>zero zero zero zero one.

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<v Speaker 3>What's fascinating here is that the physical reality underlying all

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<v Speaker 3>this is discrete. It's countable, separate, and totally limited. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Palmer suggests that the physically accessible states within the massive

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<v Speaker 3>Hilbert space don't actually fill up the whole continuous volume. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>they likely form something closer to a fractal attractor.

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<v Speaker 2>A fractal attractor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, think of it as a very specific, highly constrained,

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<v Speaker 3>geometric subset of states. So the math of standard quantum

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<v Speaker 3>mechanics still shows this beautifully smooth mansion expanding on paper,

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<v Speaker 3>but in gritty physical reality, the vast majority of those

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<v Speaker 3>rooms are just completely locked off.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the physical universe does not have the information carrying

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<v Speaker 2>capacity to assign fully independent, continuous values to every single

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<v Speaker 2>dimension as it scales up. We are literally confusing a

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<v Speaker 2>mathematical chalkboard model with the actual constraints of the cosmos.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exactly like having a highly detailed map of a

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<v Speaker 2>sprawling megacity, but when you actually drive there you find

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<v Speaker 2>out that ninety nine percent of the streets don't physically

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<v Speaker 2>exist because the universe ran out of asphalt.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great way to put it. The map shows

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<v Speaker 3>the glid, but the territory is mostly empty space.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you constrain a system to a discrete set

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<v Speaker 3>of states rather than a continuous mathematical infinity, you fundamentally

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<v Speaker 3>cap its computational power.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because you lose access to all that continuous space

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<v Speaker 2>between the grid lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, the exponential doubling of computing power we rely on

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<v Speaker 3>for the so called quantum god machine simply cannot continue forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if the accessible universe of quantum states is restricted,

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<v Speaker 2>and our volume dial really only has a fin out

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<v Speaker 2>number of discrete clicks, the natural next question is exactly

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<v Speaker 2>when do we run out of room?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Where is the barricade on the highway?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What is the ceiling?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Palmer's mathematical estimates provide a very concrete and honestly

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly sobering threshold by calculating the point at which the

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<v Speaker 3>sheer number of required discrete states exceeds the local physical

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<v Speaker 3>system's ability to maintain coherence without violating these fundamental cosmic

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<v Speaker 3>information bounds. He pinpoints a hard physical ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's the number?

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<v Speaker 3>It's right, around one thousand cubits.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, one thousand cubits. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are listening to this and assuming that some

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<v Speaker 2>far off sci fi century away, it isn't advanced quantum

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<v Speaker 2>devices currently being built are already knocking on the door

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<v Speaker 2>of that one thousand cubit limit. Tech giants like IBM

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<v Speaker 2>and Google have already unveiled processors with hundreds of cubits.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we are actively accelerating toward a brick wall in

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<v Speaker 3>this current decade. That is wild, And to take that

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<v Speaker 3>even further. The timing is critical because the industry is

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<v Speaker 3>currently trying to transition from noisy, error prone physical kubits

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<v Speaker 3>to perfect, stable, logical quid.

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<v Speaker 2>Right to fix the air rates exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But to create just one logical quibut, standard theory dictates

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<v Speaker 3>you need hundreds, sometimes thousands of physical quibuts working together

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<v Speaker 3>in a continuous state space to correct each other's air Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>I see where this is going.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, If the universe cuts off the continuous state space

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<v Speaker 3>at around one thousand physical quibots, then creating a machine

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<v Speaker 3>with millions of logical quibets, which by the way, is

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<v Speaker 3>Physically impossible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but what actually happens when we hit that one

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<v Speaker 3>This raises an important question about how we test it.

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<v Speaker 2>It just stops.

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<v Speaker 2>So adding the one thousand first quibbot no longer doubles

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. That breathtaking exponential curve we've been promised just flattens

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<v Speaker 3>out into a standard linear curve or simply degrades entirely

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<v Speaker 2>And we're about to find out empirically if Palmer is right,

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<v Speaker 2>because we are building the hardware to cross this threshold

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<v Speaker 3>We are, and to be fair, even constrained to around

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<v Speaker 3>of the classical supercomputers we use today for certain specific tasks.

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<v Speaker 4>Right It's not like they're useless, not at all, but

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<v Speaker 4>the limitless exponential scaling, the sci fi fantasy that we

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<v Speaker 3>That era is likely over before it even really began.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does this all mean for the real world?

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<v Speaker 2>What happens when the world's most anticipated technology hits a

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<v Speaker 3>It creates a really fascinating dual edged sword for society.

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<v Speaker 3>It simultaneously destroys the things we were terrified a limitless

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<v Speaker 3>quantum computer would do, while also crippling the miraculous things

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's walk through the practical fallout for everyone listening,

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<v Speaker 2>starting with the good news right. For the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>cybersecurity experts have been losing sleep over the quantum apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 2>This sheer terror was that an infinitely scalable quantum computer

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<v Speaker 2>running shores algorithm would easily shatter the RSA mathematical encryption

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<v Speaker 3>Your bank data, private messages, national security data versus.

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<v Speaker 2>All of it exactly. Classical computers would take billions of

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<v Speaker 2>years to guess the right prime numbers to crack those passwords,

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<v Speaker 2>but a limitless quantum computer could do it in minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>But look at the requirements for Shore's algorithm. To actually

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<v Speaker 2>Which means millions of logical quibts.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. We are talking about millions of physical quibots operating

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<v Speaker 3>flawlessly within an uninterrupted continuous Hilbert space, which we just

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<v Speaker 3>established doesn't exist right under the limits Palmer proposes, the

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<v Speaker 3>physical universe will inherently prevent a system from ever getting

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<v Speaker 3>that large or that perfectly continuous.

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<v Speaker 2>That's incredible, So the bad guys won't be able to

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<v Speaker 2>build a machine powerful enough to crack your bank account

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<v Speaker 2>because the universe itself will aggressively stop them.

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<v Speaker 3>The physical limits of information capacity serve as a universal fundamental.

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<v Speaker 2>Firewall, so your encrypted data might actually remain perfectly safe

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<v Speaker 2>from the quantum thread the threat of the quantum apocalypse

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<v Speaker 2>practically vanishes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the exact same continuous state space required to run

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, so things like drug discovery.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly we envisioned quantum computers solving problems that have an

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<v Speaker 3>Huge and simulating the exact quantum state of every single

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<v Speaker 3>multi dimensional Hilbert space that Palmer argues does not physically exist.

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<v Speaker 2>We were promised a machine that could map out a

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<v Speaker 2>miracle cure for diseases in an afternoon, or optimize hypercomplex

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<v Speaker 2>global logistical.

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<v Speaker 3>Clicks and a quantum computer cannot process an infinite number

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<v Speaker 3>of simultaneous variable then.

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<v Speaker 2>Those utopian simulations hit the exact same brick wall as

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<v Speaker 3>If we connect this to the bigger picture, the computations

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<v Speaker 3>required for those perfect multi variable simulations demand more continuous

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't get the miracle machines.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we will still get incredibly powerful heuristic solvers. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>we have today, just not.

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<v Speaker 2>The instant, flawless, godlike simulators exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Palmer's analysis really grounds the future of quantum computing in

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<v Speaker 3>gritty physical reality. It pulls it right out of the

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<v Speaker 2>So to recap this whole journey, we started with the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate sci fi promise, this magical machine that doubles its power,

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<v Speaker 2>endlessly capable of navigating an ever expanding geometric mansion of

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<v Speaker 2>infinite dimensions. But the reality check is that the universe

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<v Speaker 2>is not infinitely smooth. It is discrete, countable, and highly restricted.

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<v Speaker 2>And that profound limitation places a hard physical ceiling right

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<v Speaker 2>around the thousand cubits, a ceiling we are actively driving

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<v Speaker 2>toward right now in labs all over the world. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a physical law that secures our passwords and saves the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet from collapse, but fundamentally slows down the arrival of

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<v Speaker 2>those sci fi miracle cures.

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<v Speaker 3>Which leaves us staring down a truly profound philosophical question,

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<v Speaker 3>Tom all over, what's that? Well? If the physical universe

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<v Speaker 3>fundamentally restricts the amount of information a quantum system can hold,

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<v Speaker 3>dimensions of our mathematical models, what does that tell us

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<v Speaker 3>about the ultimate nature of reality itself? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>If reality operates in discrete finite clicks at its lowest

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<v Speaker 3>levels rather than as a smooth infinite continuum, is the

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<v Speaker 3>universe fundamentally more like a high resolution but ultimately limited,

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<v Speaker 3>classical simulation than an infinitely complex quantum realm