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Speaker 3: How you guys doing doing fantastic? How's the offseason been

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for you? Regarding football seas? I know you're a basketball

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fan too, but I know you lean heavy in the

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football round.

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Speaker 4: Definitely heavy into football. About what I would say this

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football is the sport does no matter how the team is,

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no matter what's going on, I'm gonna be just as

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crazy as I am, even if they're they're pelve and

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zero or if they're own twelve. But basketball I'm a

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little more of a fair weather fan. So when they're

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doing great, I'm following, whether or not I probably could

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follow a little closer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, no, totally get that. Well, Camp Killaani's a

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week away. What are the key storylines you're looking at

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right now of interest?

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Speaker 4: I think one of the interesting things will be And

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I think, actually I had already thought about it a

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little bit, but I think Brady papinga on your airwave

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said it even a better way that I think it's

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going to be a little bit more like spring Ball

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with the way that people are playing players as much

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as we're paying them now, I don't think we're gonna

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see as much of the guys that are high end.

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The guys are gonna be playing quite as much as

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spring Ball, just because you don't want to to risk injury.

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And I think you're gonna be trying to figure out

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what roster spots you have opened, where to push guys,

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what's going there. So I really am being treated to

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see how springball kind of turns into a like kind

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of like mini camps, like roocky mini camps like I

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think that was kind of what Brady said. So I'm

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intrigued to see a lot of the backup battles obviously

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in the receiver room. We want to see kind of

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who if the guys can step up there. That's obviously

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became has become a big point of emphasis now is

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who can step up into those roles in the receiver room.

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But I'm like, I'm excited to see who QB two for,

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how that that battle turns out between Trayson and and

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Watson iniquats and I'm intrigued to see kind of that

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RB two situation. I'm definitely a Siona moa big fan.

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I think he'll end up being that guy, but I

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think they'll definitely be a battle there. So that's more

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of my thing, is just kind of seeing how how

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the depth works itself out in spring ball.

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Speaker 2: So your RB two favorite is Shooney Mo.

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Speaker 3: You think he'll he'll rise to the occasion to be

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that RB two heading into fall camp.

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Speaker 4: I one hundred percent things though. I think if he's healthy,

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he is a great RB two option. I don't know

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that i'd call him a great RB one in the

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league forever, but I think RB two he's I think

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he's on seventy nine carries, I think is what it is.

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He's at five yards of carry, like that's not nothing.

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Speaker 2: So no, it's solid. Who's your QB two favorite right now?

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Speaker 4: I think it's got to be tracing just because of

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the time in the system. But I think I think

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it gonna be one of those situations where by by

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the time the season comes around, if Bar went down

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in game, Tracy would come in. But if it was

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early enough in the season and Bar went down and

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it was like a long term injury, I wouldn't be

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super surprised with them going with Enick as a future

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situation just to because I think he has higher upside.

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wouldn't be an in game type of situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I've been. I've been very much intrigued by

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Enick Watson. Goldie is the calm in his Family's the

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golden child. Apparently. I really like whose skill set, whose athleticism?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's why I think I think he'll definitely,

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I think his upside is really there. He would he

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played in his until his senior year. If I if

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I'm right, he played in a really run heavy offense,

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so he didn't get to really show off his arm

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different situations. And so I think he was an under

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the radar recruit in terms of what his high ceiling is.

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and I think there's gonna be a good battle there

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and I think he's gonna push for that that QB

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Speaker 2: Love that breakdown.

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Speaker 3: My guy, Vick Kram is very much intrigued by the

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offensive line and the offensive line battles that could be ensuing.

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You got some mercenaries coming through the portal. You got

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kind of how that breaks down. I think they have

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who's ready, who's willing?

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Speaker 3: Are you leaning towards the big body Tyler Casper from

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Oregon that he's finally gonna get his opportunity Reggie fish Kinnet?

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freshman Legend Glasgar can he be a dude, he's a

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Speaker 2: Maybe he can get into the swing of things.

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obviously is when healthy. I think he's a great receiver.

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as long as he can stay healthy. But I do

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opportunity to be Parker Kingston esque receiver, just that quick

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question mark because we had none of them were proven

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the depths there, I just have no idea who's gonna

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actually step up. I think you'll get Casper and Jojo

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Speaker 3: Who's gonna what type of scheme are we run? We

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Is this Spronkleman and all defense, what's going on there? Like,

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have you had those conversations as well amongst Cougar Nation.

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Speaker 3: Fans, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's intriguing to me.

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these changes until the college football season. But Justin Enna

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taking over the special teams in it that has traditionally

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teams unit and taking control of that, and he's not

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even coaching a position, he's all in twenty four seven

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm intrigued by I think it'll be something interesting.

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GUP Club interview that I was watching but he mentioned,

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and they keep very very similar. But then he did

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mention a couple of things like how the punt team

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was gonna work, and maybe the strategy in some of

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much as that hard it hurts anything because he was

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Speaker 3: What's the floor in your opinion of this BA basketball season.

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it was. I do think this team would would still

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Speaker 6: This is Ronald the three Man Weaver bringing you the

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Cougar Sports press release today. Ajidy Bonsa has been named

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to the thirty player Late Season Team for the twenty

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twenty six Jersey Mike's Nasoni Trophy Men's College Player of

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Speaker 7: The six to nine fourd has reached.

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start his BYU career, the third longest such streak to

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open a career in Big twelve history. He also has

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set multiple freshman program records, including most twenty point games,

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thirty point games, triple doubles, free throw made and free

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throw attempts, and his latest performance, de Bonsa poured in

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thirty five points to lead all scores, recording his six

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to thirtieth point game.

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Speaker 7: The outing established a new BYU.

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Speaker 6: Freshman single season scoring record, surpassing a forty eight year

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mark previously held by Danny Ainge. He shot thirteen to

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also setting a freshman record.

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Speaker 7: For field goal attempts in the season.

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Speaker 6: De Bonsa added seven boards, two assists, and won seven

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twenty first, when the Cougar is welcome in number six

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strong words, strong commentary. Look, bu fans, we want to

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we got a great environment at the Marriott Center. We

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on all the problems of the day.

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Speaker 2: What's keeping you busy today? How was your show?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? No, I mean you know, and I saw you

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were on Twitter talking a little bit about Darren Peterson

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of the ball. Yeah, yeah, true, So we've learned a lot.

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spring practice here. So look, football season never sleeps, and

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who who do you think, I guess did the best

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from a standpoint of the money that they've spent, you know,

474
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,400
they needed to improve on the defensive side, and that's

475
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,319
where I think, like it's an interesting series because you know,

476
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,599
not all the best teams are going to be active

477
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,519
in the total. Because a lot of these teams that

478
00:21:01,519 --> 00:21:03,759
we're gonna be talking about as we gear for the season,

479
00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:06,240
you know, are returning many of their key players, and

480
00:21:06,319 --> 00:21:09,160
so Texas sack was not one of them, especially on defense.

481
00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:10,960
You know, they were turned key players at running back,

482
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,799
they were turned key players at different positions, but not

483
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,359
on the defensive side of football. So I mean they

484
00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:17,079
went out and spent some money. I mean, they brought

485
00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:19,799
in Trey White, you know, a defensive end from San

486
00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:22,920
Diego State. They brought in Austin Remaine from Kansas State.

487
00:21:23,519 --> 00:21:25,960
You know, they really beefed up their linebacking corps and

488
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,279
their defensive lines to the portal and you know, look,

489
00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:31,519
I mean, I don't I don't know that they're going

490
00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:33,279
to be close to as good as they were defensively

491
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,240
last year because they were historically great defensively. But they

492
00:21:36,279 --> 00:21:38,079
started a ton of money on that side of football,

493
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,119
and we'll see what they look like. And I think

494
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,519
offensively they've also obviously improved there and you know, and

495
00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:47,160
we'll see how Soresby goes in that offense. But I

496
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,480
don't think they need to be as good as they

497
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,200
were defensively last year. But they need to be dramatically

498
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,079
improved offensively, because you know, what we saw against the

499
00:21:54,079 --> 00:21:56,680
Oregon just wasn't good enough. Other teams like I think

500
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,000
West Virginia made a lot of hay in the portal.

501
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,200
They you know, they invested a ton in some younger prospects,

502
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,920
and you know, I mean they have a couple of

503
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,119
five stars coming in, including a kid named Matt Seeg

504
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,319
who was kind of a small small school warrior superstar

505
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,680
who played quarterback and was, you know, kind of a

506
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,240
monster in Pennsylvania. He committed to penn State, de commits

507
00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:21,000
and goes to West Virginia. The interesting thing about what

508
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,440
West Virginia has done though, is, you know, when you

509
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,400
look at what they've had from a talent perspective, they've

510
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,359
had a difficult time, certainly Underneil Brown and retaining their

511
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,240
best guys. You know, we just saw a key messador

512
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:36,720
at Miami Go turn himself into a first round pick.

513
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,680
I mean, that was a kid that was initially at

514
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,920
West Virginia one of the best defensive ends of the

515
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,519
Big twelve. But he leaves for more money and we've

516
00:22:43,559 --> 00:22:46,240
seen that, so it's you know, it's an interesting strategy.

517
00:22:46,279 --> 00:22:48,440
I think from a standpoint of West Virginia has not

518
00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:50,640
done a good enough job entertaining their top players, so

519
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,119
you know they're strategy in the portal. You'd think maybe

520
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,480
you go after some of the more known commodities guys

521
00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:57,319
that have produced and have put up you know, have

522
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,599
had a lot of snaps and put up numbers. But

523
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,240
really what they've done is they brought a ton of

524
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:05,400
guys that were either four or five star prospects previously

525
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,039
that are looking for a fresh start, or four or

526
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:10,119
five star prospects that they were able to bring in

527
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,200
that are going to be freshman this upcoming season. But

528
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,920
they have a lot of talent and I'm very intrigued,

529
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,200
especially by what they did at the quarterback position. I

530
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,240
also like what UCF has done. UCF kind of did

531
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:22,039
the opposite where they did go after guys that have produced,

532
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,680
they from smaller schools, and I love what they did

533
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,440
at the quarterback position too. So I think two programs

534
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,079
that need to improve in year two with their coaches,

535
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,559
and two that from a talent perspective, have done that.

536
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 3: Give me your thoughts on this, Like I've gotten back

537
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,039
and forth with friends with the coworkers, et cetera about

538
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,200
Is it better to go out in an acchoir or

539
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,319
is it better to retain? In this college football transfer

540
00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:49,039
port world? Right Like, especially if you've won, right you're

541
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:53,240
winning the Bway for instance, it's it's the it's the

542
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:55,480
situation where they've gone eleven and two and twelve and two.

543
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,319
You know, they weren't able to beat Texas Tech. I

544
00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:00,000
mean they were and they were far from beating them.

545
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:03,680
They were at times competitive, but they're far from being

546
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:05,880
It's like, okay, well you should go out and find

547
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,000
better players, right, b YU retained their players and only

548
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,920
strategically went out and got nine transfers. I mean there's

549
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,240
a few others too that were like more like p

550
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:20,680
wo walk Ons. I think they got noo Cy Tumwelpay's

551
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,279
older brother out of Eastern Washington, and they picked up

552
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,599
Seth Schigg from Army, a converted quarterback playing cornerback. But

553
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,119
you know, is it better to acquire is it better

554
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,480
to retain? Especially if you're BUYU do think?

555
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 5: And don't forget about Roger Lyons's older brother, who's yeah.

556
00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:41,839
Speaker 2: And he's one of the nine.

557
00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:44,599
Speaker 3: He's one of the nine guys, right, Like, what I'm

558
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:46,720
saying is those two that I mentioned were just kind

559
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,440
of PWO transferal guys that came from other schools.

560
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, I think it's a great question, Ben,

561
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,880
and I think you know, it's different strokes for different

562
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,720
folks in many ways, because you know, look, Body Tataki

563
00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:02,079
is really good retain talent, and I think that is

564
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,559
honestly one of the most important components to being successful

565
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:08,880
long term in this sport right now, because you just

566
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,119
cannot be turning over rosters every single year.

567
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:11,319
Speaker 2: Now.

568
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 5: I know Texas Tech has done that to a degree here,

569
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:16,039
but at the same time, like they they brought in

570
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:18,680
guys that were one year guys that they expected to

571
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,480
kind of be out the door and be first round picks,

572
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,880
which is what we're about to see. I think, you know,

573
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,480
Lance light Bulb at Kansas Mi Alma Mater. You know,

574
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,640
before this past year, he had lost the fewest amount

575
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,240
of players in the portal collectively. So I think that's

576
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,160
how you build, and you want to you know, develop guys.

577
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,640
You want to have them in your system and develop

578
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,000
multiple years. You want them to play together, you know.

579
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,319
I think that is in many ways what the Big

580
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,680
twelve is. Is it development of league and there are

581
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,759
a lot of developmental programs. The problem is it's hard

582
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:48,839
for a lot of these programs to maintain and retain

583
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,160
these guys. You know, in some ways, I like get

584
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,599
it to the NFL. You know, when guys hit free agency,

585
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,039
for the most part, it's because their teams didn't want

586
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,039
to retain them, you know, they didn't see the value

587
00:25:58,039 --> 00:25:59,960
in that for the for the most part, NFL team

588
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:02,839
are going to retain the most important guys because they

589
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,599
know more than more than anybody else about those guys.

590
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,519
And I'm talking about you know, in the locker room,

591
00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:10,000
in the weight room, off the field, and on the field.

592
00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,519
I think the same is true you know in college

593
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:14,240
right now is you want to retain your own guys,

594
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,279
and it might cost money to do it, if you

595
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:17,720
have the funds to will to retain it and you

596
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000
have the right culture built internally, I think that's that's ideal.

597
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,880
With BYU last year, I mean, look, we know what

598
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,759
they were up against. They had a true freshman quarterback.

599
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:28,519
I'm much or make excuses, but like, you know, another

600
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:31,480
year for Bear and he should be a much better player.

601
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:34,240
I mean he wasn't. Even We're about to hit spring practice.

602
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,000
He wasn't even in provo for spring practice last year.

603
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,920
So I think like the success they had, especially on offense,

604
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,640
was so much a product of the system. It was

605
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:44,640
l J. Martin, it was an offensive line, it was

606
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,240
the right receivers right like it was. It was this

607
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:49,480
perfect storm that allowed him to be successful. But I

608
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,839
think Texas Tech showed the limitations that a true freshman

609
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:55,599
can have once things go off script, and I so

610
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,160
I expect him to be dramatically better. So going back

611
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,720
to your point about find better players, I mean, I think,

612
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,839
you know, being better and more consistent at quarterback, especially

613
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:05,720
when you get to a game like Texas Tech, I

614
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,200
think will make a huge difference because it felt like

615
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:11,079
at times, especially in the Big Twelve championship game, like

616
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,359
Bear was just overmatched and just did not know what

617
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,279
to do when his first read wasn't there what you

618
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:17,759
expect from a young quarterback. I think again, you get

619
00:27:17,759 --> 00:27:20,599
now he's got a full spring. Obviously, they've got, you know,

620
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:22,920
the situation at wide receiver hanging over their heads in

621
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,640
terms of not having one of their top not having

622
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,720
one of their top targets. But I think despite that,

623
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,079
just being another year with an Aaron Rodgers system. Having

624
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,559
L J. Martin back, you're having more continuity with some

625
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:34,720
of these receivers. I think that goes a long way.

626
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:37,319
So I do think they should be considerably better at

627
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,559
the quarterback position. And that's not a knock on on Bear,

628
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:42,119
It's just the reality of the situation.

629
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:44,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

630
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Big the Big Twelve, I feel like, is

631
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:48,039
in a good spot, right. I think they're in a

632
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,920
good spot collectively across all these teams. They didn't show well,

633
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,519
maybe as well as we would have liked in Bowl

634
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:56,599
games and the CFP.

635
00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: But what's the state of the Big Twelve? Ari?

636
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,279
Speaker 3: You caught up with Brent or Mark. You know, he's

637
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,359
always monetizing. He has always thinking outside the box. He's

638
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,640
always trying to celebritize and monetize all things, all all

639
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,720
portions of the Big Twelve.

640
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: Where do we stand right now? Do you think of

641
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:11,720
the Big Twelve?

642
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:15,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think overall, I mean there's so

643
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,519
much for momentum. You know, there's what's happening coming up

644
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,920
here in a few weeks at the Big Twelve tournament

645
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,119
in Kansas City with the ASB glass floor that I

646
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,160
think is going to be really cool. You know, DJ

647
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,559
Khaled was just announced that he's going to be performing

648
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:31,240
outside of the Big Twelve championship, you know, and then

649
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,880
like what's happening in the NBA is a disgrace and

650
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,240
it is front and center for all of the public.

651
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,240
And I think the corresponding year over year television ratings

652
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,480
within college basketball and specifically the Big Twelve our reflection

653
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,680
of you know, people are watching college basketball right now

654
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400
at this point of the season in ways they never

655
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,480
had before. And I think you've got at least ten

656
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,279
NBA teams right now that are trying to lose, that

657
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:58,440
are actively tanking and sinking the bottom. It's bad. I mean,

658
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,039
there's some really bad basketball. I think. Like I'm from Chicago.

659
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:04,279
I watched the Chicago Bulls. I think there are probably

660
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:06,119
two teams the Big twelve that could beat Chicago Bulls

661
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,039
right now. And that's that is I mean, I know,

662
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,839
that's like we talked about that all the time. There's

663
00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:11,880
no way like that could ever happen. But I mean,

664
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,519
what the Bulls are playing on the floor right now

665
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,400
is not a passable NBA team that is a D

666
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,079
is a G League team at best. So like the player,

667
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,759
the level of play right now in the Big twelve

668
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,599
level playing college basketball is far superior to what we're

669
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:26,359
seeing in the NBA and for a lot of these games,

670
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,519
and I think the ratings reflect that. So I think

671
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,119
like basketball is in a good spot. You know, overall,

672
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,559
overall sports I think are doing well. I mean there's

673
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,279
Utah gymnastics, there's you know, baseball has has some really

674
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:40,920
good teams by us on the come there. I mean

675
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640
women's lacrosse is another, you know sport that Brett you

676
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,240
or Mark added last year, added Florida as a as

677
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,000
a member, and that's one of the top programs in

678
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,720
the country. So I think like overall, just the whole

679
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,440
the whole picture is really good. For the Big Twelve,

680
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,079
there's a lot of momentum. And then football, I mean

681
00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,279
football is obviously the key, that's really the the litmus

682
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,319
test for you as a conference. And yeah, you know,

683
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,119
overall Big twelve did not show out well, but I

684
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:05,880
think just comparatively, the SEC sent six teams. I know,

685
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,000
we've talked about this, sent six teams to the dance

686
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,079
and didn't even end up playing for a championship. I mean,

687
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:13,759
that's a disgrace. They all the SEC keeps doing is

688
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:15,240
talking about how great they are, and all they keep

689
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,599
doing is proving how bad they are comparatively. And now

690
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,680
they're canceling series. You know, Arizona State had a series

691
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,559
canceled with Texas Mississippi State had a series canceled with

692
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,599
Texas Tech. Like they only want to play each other,

693
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,400
they and they want to live in this world where

694
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,400
they're the best, and they're not proving it. So you know, look,

695
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,400
I hope that the Big Twelve gets more than one

696
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,359
bud at the Apple next year. You know, I know

697
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,039
Ben and I have talked a ton about this, but

698
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,319
like the fact that it's one game that's basically the

699
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:44,920
one judgment for the Big Twelve is a disgrace. And

700
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,799
you know, hopefully, I think the BYU and Texas Tech

701
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:49,640
bolting at the front of the class for the Big

702
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,799
Twelve heading into this next season, you know, there's an

703
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,039
opportunity for two bids for the Big Twelve, but we'll

704
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,839
see how it plays out and then like long term,

705
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,319
you know, look, we're starting to really see this thing

706
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:03,039
play out, and like with like Sacramento State joins the MAC,

707
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,160
like everybody's trying to position themselves for this this next round.

708
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,039
And look, the Big Twelve is very solidified right now,

709
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,200
way more so than the ACC. And this is something

710
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:16,160
like that is very obvious. You know, last off season,

711
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North Carolina, you know, basically turn in some you know

712
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paper to you know, knowledge that they are in fact

713
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looking you know elsewhere the SEC. There was an invite

714
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with the SEC, was widely reported, you know that they

715
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were trying to actively talk to the SEC. Clemson's upset

716
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for states, upset, like there is a lot of upset

717
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,200
unhappy people in the ACC. And the more they change

718
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,720
their rules, which they did again this offseason to play

719
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:44,359
kate to the top, you know, a few percentage points

720
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of the conference, the more it alienates the rest of

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the conference. The Big twelve knows. I mean, this is

722
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exactly what happened with the Big Twelve before BYU arrived,

723
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where Texas at Ou, everybody play caated to Texas at

724
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OU and they got whatever they wanted. It's the reason

725
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they didn't bolt to the PAC twelve years ago. We'll

726
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get you what you want, We'll give you what you want. Ultimately,

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that is going to fail. It's a house of cards,

728
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and we know that it's already happened. So the Big

729
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Twelve is in a much more you know, a much

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better position because there's a unification of the conference and

731
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it's members that doesn't really exist at the ACC level

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right now, and it's the a SEC in the Big

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Twelve that are looking up at the SEC in the

734
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Big Ten. So ultimately, I think we're looking at twenty

735
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thirty as the year when the ACC officially breaks apart.

736
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I think we'll see some of the big brands go

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to the SEC in the Big Ten and then you know,

738
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the Big Twelve being a good position to pounce on

739
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,319
some of those other teams. Now where does that put

740
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them relative to the SEC in the Big Ten? I

741
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don't know. I mean I think football and how good

742
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and consistent this league can be at football over the

743
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,920
next five years will go a long way in that

744
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because football is driving the bus. And when the Big

745
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Twelve goes back for its TV rights, it can it

746
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can show just how good the conference is from a

747
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football perspective at a championship level. And now you're talking

748
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about money that could you get close to where the

749
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SEC in the Big Ten are. So look, I think

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the Big Twelve is as positioned as good as positioned

751
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as any league in the country right now in better position,

752
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and the ACC which is a direct competitor, and the a

753
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:05,119
SEC is going to break apart. It's an inevitability.

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Speaker 2: Great insight, great knowledge.

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Speaker 3: There love the commentary, Ari Tempkin, Big twelve Radio on

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What you do, how you do it for all of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, appreciate you, buddy, Thank you seven to ten am

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Central each every weekday morning. It's Big twelve Today on

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the platforms that the show is available. But appreciate you

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very much, Ben, Take care man, couple.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I got one more thing for you, Ari. Ceiling.

766
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We didn't talk basketball. We didn't talk basketball.

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Speaker 3: Ceiling and floor for this BA basketball team that's been

768
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decimated by season ending injuries and still trying to find

769
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themselves defensively, offensively, they're pretty sound, could.

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Speaker 2: Be maybe slightly better.

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Speaker 3: But what's the ceiling and floor for this BOA basketball team?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean I think the ceiling is the getting out

774
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of the first weekend. That would be a huge sass.

775
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You know. Look, they were before the Richie Saunders injury

776
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,039
three hundred and fifty first out of three hundred and

777
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:09,000
sixty three basketball teams in bench scoring. So it was

778
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
not a secret that this team just did not have

779
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,559
enough scoring loss at Dawson Baker. You know, they just

780
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,719
didn't have depth, but they had the big three, and

781
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,519
that big three was gonna be good enough to carry

782
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them if they got hot on offense. And without Saunders,

783
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,000
I mean, forget about it. I know that that Rob

784
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,639
Wright and aj De Bounce are just two NBA talents

785
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,000
and they're incredible, but that's just not gonna be enough,

786
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:31,280
especially because you know Richie obviously he brought the scoring,

787
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,480
and the fact that his scoring didn't really take much

788
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,599
of a back seat this year, like he's still looking

789
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,559
year every year at numbers that were similar. In fact,

790
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:40,119
I think his numbers are actually up. It's pretty incredible

791
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,800
to think that they add Rob right, they add to BATSA,

792
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,119
and his numbers don't take a back seat to those guys.

793
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,639
So I think that should speak to NBA scouts. But

794
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,360
he was a great leader for this team. I think

795
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,960
Kevin Young obviously mentioned that, and the leadership is gonna

796
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,159
be missed. And then the defense. I mean, I think

797
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,559
one of the most underrated part of Richie Saunders's game

798
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in the fact that he was averaging one point eight

799
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,239
steals per game, and this is defense, you just hit

800
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on it. I think we guy love Kevin Young. I

801
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,039
think he's a great coach, and I think he's gonna

802
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win big at BYU. But I think this offseason he's

803
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,000
got to take a long, hard look in the mirror

804
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and figure out a way to become more physical and

805
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and better defensively and more consistently defensively. You know they

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they haven't.

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Speaker 9: They have a.

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Speaker 5: Culture of finesse, and they're really good offense, and they

809
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run great sets, and they've got you know, just I mean,

810
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,119
incredible stuff, but they to be good to win big,

811
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:27,360
you need to be good defensively. And like I go

812
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,599
back to that Houston BYU game and it was I

813
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think it was tied late, and it's like there was

814
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:33,920
no doubt who was gonna win because one team just

815
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,920
culturally is physical and one team is culturally finesse and

816
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:42,039
fair or unfair, the physical team out physical BYU down

817
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:46,400
the stretch, Capatata. They need a team of capotatas, because

818
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,119
that that dude is physical. He's you know, he gets after,

819
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,360
he gets some glass. He's good, he's good at protecting

820
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,519
the rim. Promise. He's only one guy. So again, I

821
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:57,400
think love what Kevin Young does. I think this offseason

822
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he's got to figure out how to be more physical.

823
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He's got to scour the transfer portal and find you know,

824
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,320
more physical, defensive minded guys because they've got to be

825
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,159
more consistent as a program defensively some to win big.

826
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But look, I think with the loss of Saunders, if

827
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,599
they get out of the first weekend, that'd be a

828
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:15,639
huge success in terms of their floor. I mean, they're

829
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,559
gonna make the tournament. I mean, they could lose out,

830
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:19,679
which they won't and make the tournament, I would think

831
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,360
based on what they've done so far. But and they

832
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,559
won't obviously lose out because they've got too much talent

833
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,800
at least for those two guys to lose out. But

834
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it's just it's tough to think that they can win,

835
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,320
you know, more than two games. So I mean, I

836
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,679
think their floor is probably a first round loss, first

837
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,159
round upset, and their ceiling is probably get on the

838
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first weekend. Winning two games.

839
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Speaker 3: If you're an NBA GM, do you take Darren Peterson

840
00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:45,880
number one overall? Or ag debonsa and next this this

841
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,960
year's NBA draft.

842
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 5: You know what's really interesting is coming into this season

843
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,719
and forgetting about the Peterson all the off the court

844
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,960
stuff and the you know, the the injury stuff, Like

845
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,079
forgetting about that for a moment. Coming into the season,

846
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,400
was looked at as a guy that was he could

847
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,639
not stop him from getting to the rim. He was

848
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:08,840
a great facilitator. He was a great shooter and a

849
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,400
great defensive player. So far, what he's shown at Kansas

850
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:15,280
is he could be a microwave scorer. Like this is

851
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,639
a dude that can come in and score a lot

852
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,760
of points quickly. He's not getting to the rim a ton.

853
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,119
Most of his shots are from three. He's not getting

854
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,480
to the rim. He's not defending. He has eleven assists.

855
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,519
Eleven assists in eleven Big Twelve games. He's not facilitating.

856
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,880
So he's not really doing anything that he was expected

857
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,440
to be doing to be a number one overall pick.

858
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:37,480
So if I'm an NBAGM, I'm looking off. I'm taking

859
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,840
a long hard look at why did your numbers look

860
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,960
like this this year. Why are you not a facilitator?

861
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,039
Why aren't you driving to the bucket more? Why aren't

862
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:46,239
you defending at a higher rate. These are all things

863
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,960
that you were supposed to be doing, that you did

864
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:49,880
in high school. These are the things we're known for.

865
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,920
So yeah, I mean, if I'm a GM, I'm still

866
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,880
probably leaning towards Peterson. But I think beyond the injury stuff, like,

867
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,159
there's things on the court that he was supposed to

868
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,159
be able to do that he's not. And you know,

869
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,320
look me, while the vance is playing thirty nine minutes,

870
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:05,719
he's carrying the team. I think there's be a hard

871
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,639
decision to make for an NBA GM, there.

872
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Ari. We salute you, We appreciate you.

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00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 3: We invite everyone to follow you on X and listen

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876
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 5: Thanks so much, brother, Appreciate you, brother, take care of

877
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,400
a great weekend.

878
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 9: With a cancelation of bya baseball game yesterday dude to weather.

904
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:37,440
Only one team was in action yesterday. Is Softball split

905
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,400
their doubleheader in the Merry Another Collegiate Classic. Game one

906
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,119
against the Matadors of cal State North three YU got

907
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,079
off to a two to nothing lead in the third inning,

908
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but couldn't hold on and ended up losing seven to two.

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00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,039
Game two was a different story. The start of that

910
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,880
game was gian Emarties, who threw a complete game shutout

911
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,599
and told twelve strikeouts against Tawaii and the eight to

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00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,559
nothing victory elive. And Birdingham also starred today with her

913
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first two homers of the year, one in each game.

914
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Now let's get you updated with this weekend schedule. Starting

915
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with today's game, Women's tennis has a match at eleven

916
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,239
against Weaver State, and the distance team for track and

917
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,239
field gets started at eleven forty five in Boulder, Colorado.

918
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Then there's a break in the action until four o'clock

919
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when softball chases long each State in the first game

920
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,679
in their doubleheader before they take on Auburn later in

921
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,960
the day at nine o'clock. The women's tennis team is

922
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back in action at five o'clock, hosting Colorado State, right

923
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before baseball at San Diego State Gymnastics versus Denver on

924
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,760
Senior Night, and number seven ranked men's volleyball hosting Fort

925
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,239
Valley as they all start at seven o'clock. An action

926
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on Saturday, Men's tennis looks to continue their undefeated start

927
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,639
to the year at noon, before women's basketball heads up

928
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:41,159
North take on the Utes at two o'clock. Baseball then

929
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:43,639
continues the Tony Gwinn Legacy Tournament when they take on

930
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,639
You See San Diego at four o'clock. Softball team also

931
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,599
plays at four o'clock against Washington in their final game

932
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:52,360
of their marry another College of Classic. After men's volleyball

933
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,559
tonight at seven, twenty third rank men basketball finishes off

934
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:58,280
our weekend slate as they host number six Iowa State

935
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,599
team looking for their first Quad one A win of

936
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:03,199
the season, well what looks like their last opportunity to

937
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,519
do so for the Big Twelve Tournament. That game tips

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off at a thirty I'm Camra Clark and the Suspend

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