Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to a new episode of
Speaker 1: the Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His
Speaker 1: name is Tim Duckworth. As I try to adjust this microphone
Speaker 1: because everything here is messed up. Everything here is messed up. Okay,
Speaker 1: stop messing with my studio. It's unbelievable, it's unreal. How
Speaker 1: are you good? Thanks, Mike, you're looking You look like
Speaker 1: you are the Australian version of whoever that guy was
Speaker 1: on Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: Sam Neil? Is that real name?
Speaker 3: Is that who it is?
Speaker 1: I'm horrible with names, so I don't know. Yeah, Sam Neil, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like the style of hat that I feel like
Speaker 1: he had.
Speaker 4: It is a cattleman zacubra in rabbit fur direct from Melbourne, Australia.
Speaker 2: Pairs well with my.
Speaker 4: You hear that, Peter Kangaroo, I say that cowboy boots.
Speaker 1: You hear that?
Speaker 2: You hear that? I'm sure it's fine. I'm sure Pete
Speaker 2: is okay, Tod all right.
Speaker 1: Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky winning the fifty k PPC
Speaker 1: Grinder Grinder Grinder Grinder, his fourth one two three four
Speaker 1: fourth PPC title. Absolutely dominant performance down the stretch, even
Speaker 1: extends before the final day of play. Speaking of dominance,
Speaker 1: Sina Okamoto absolutely steam rolling through the Ladies Championship. She
Speaker 1: leads the final table one more day to go. In
Speaker 1: that event, we have a first time w SP gold
Speaker 1: Brace the winner Elong Wang winning the three K no
Speaker 1: limit hold them, and then the Gladiators of Poker became
Speaker 1: the second largest live poker tournament ever in the the
Speaker 1: history of the game, if you can believe it. So
Speaker 1: a very very very big day here at the World
Speaker 1: Series of Poker. I am still very very tired from
Speaker 1: last night, very very tired. So it is eleven fifteen pm,
Speaker 1: quite a bit earlier than the three point thirty or
Speaker 1: whatever the heck it was last night. So get out
Speaker 1: of here a couple hours earlier than we did last night.
Speaker 1: I am operating on three hours of sleep. Is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I do it, but it's silly.
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Speaker 1: will say that producer Rich I know is listening, I
Speaker 1: have a gripe with the every hour on the half hour.
Speaker 1: You don't like the half outd So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: They do tournament breaks. So you play for twenty five
Speaker 1: minutes and then you break. Yeah, seems a little silly.
Speaker 1: Should just be on it every hour. That way, you
Speaker 1: play for fifty five minutes, because like you're all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're playing, you're getting in the swinging thing
Speaker 1: and it's like boom break.
Speaker 2: It's like wait, they just started even weird.
Speaker 1: This is no light registration, right, Yeah, but they should
Speaker 1: just start it earlier so you play for a longer
Speaker 1: period of time, right, So that's what I think. So second,
Speaker 1: so I'm sending a I'm sending a note to the
Speaker 1: suggestion box, which is me through the podcast to you, Rich,
Speaker 1: I forgot my water.
Speaker 3: Damn it.
Speaker 1: As you die, it makes me think that I've forgot
Speaker 1: my water. So hopefully I can make it through this
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Speaker 1: free online for We had a lot of fun in
Speaker 1: those free roles, those million Goald free rolls. He had
Speaker 1: a lot of fun the past couple days. Hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: keep those up, especially during the WSP main event broadcast.
Speaker 1: Michael the Grinder, Miss Rocky, this guy and this tournament
Speaker 1: is something I'm not sure I would believe it, but
Speaker 1: I have seen it with my own eyes, so I'm
Speaker 1: forced to believe it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: It's just it's unfathomable that he has won this tournament,
Speaker 1: the toughest, most grueling poker tournament in the world, against
Speaker 1: the most elite competition. Crazy buying, fifty k, I mean,
Speaker 1: just all of it. It has everything, right, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's won it not once, not twice, not three times,
Speaker 1: but now four times. Ultimately, it was miss Rocky's seventh
Speaker 1: w Sipeagle bracelet, one point three three million dollars coming
Speaker 1: his way as well his sixth cash in this event
Speaker 1: as well. He took home as I said, one point
Speaker 1: three to three million bring Kenny second, eight hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty seven K Esther Taylor aka e K five hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety K for her. She took or she finished,
Speaker 1: the deepest that a female has ever finished in this event.
Speaker 1: The previous one was Melissa Burr twenty fourteen. She took seventh.
Speaker 1: And those are the only two women to cash in
Speaker 1: this one. Andrew ja got fourth, Jalvier got fifth, Albert
Speaker 1: Daher got sixth, and Ben Lamb got seventh. Those are
Speaker 1: the final seven players to come back for the fifth
Speaker 1: and final day of play. What do you got for
Speaker 1: me here? You're typing stats.
Speaker 4: Type of stat in yeah that you said six cash
Speaker 4: for Michael Mzrahi in the PPC six million and sixty
Speaker 4: four thousand dollars in PPC earnings aligne just.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is crazy. This guy is wild.
Speaker 1: Now I will say this. He ran like freaking God
Speaker 1: on the final day. But he did put himself in
Speaker 1: that position to run like God, so you can't fault him.
Speaker 1: I'm a bit jealous of a Sun run like that.
Speaker 1: All around, there was some really fun hands, you know,
Speaker 1: I think, even extending back to day four and Day three,
Speaker 1: a lot of really fun hands in this one. We
Speaker 1: did stream I believe it am onto two and a
Speaker 1: half days of coverage of this tournament, so if you
Speaker 1: guys want to check that out, you can go find
Speaker 1: it on demand on poker dot com. For this final table,
Speaker 1: the great Ali Najade was in the booth alongside he
Speaker 1: ever so talented Jared Blessnik, and it was tremendous. Blesnick
Speaker 1: of course spoke his mind as he always does in
Speaker 1: the booth. You know, he gives great insight, yes, but
Speaker 1: he also doesn't hold back. If he thinks you played bad,
Speaker 1: he's gonna say you freaking torched it. So it makes
Speaker 1: for a very very very entertaining watch. So if you
Speaker 1: missed it out highly and you guys to go and
Speaker 1: watch that. I mean, mss Rocky just steamrolled this whole
Speaker 1: final table. I mean right from the start, he was
Speaker 1: just boom out the gate flying when he gets to
Speaker 1: three handed play. It's just like he's like taking chips
Speaker 1: from Taylor. He's taken chips from Kenny, then from Taylor,
Speaker 1: then from Kenny. Next thing, you know, he's got like
Speaker 1: twenty seven million, they both have like three million. He's
Speaker 1: just running away with the thing. Eta goes out in
Speaker 1: third miss Rocky's heads up with Kenny. He's got thirty
Speaker 1: million to like the two and a half or three
Speaker 1: million for Kenny. Like it's just like it's just insurmountable.
Speaker 1: He's never coming back from that. With the way the
Speaker 1: Grinder was playing and running, it's just never happening. It
Speaker 1: just also was one of those things where it just
Speaker 1: it felt like Michael mss Rocky's tournament. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, on day three, I know, you and I
Speaker 1: were walking through the field and I was like, really
Speaker 1: like really, he's still in like he's still doing it.
Speaker 1: He's still got a big stack over there, and you
Speaker 1: just can kind of sense it, you know, being around
Speaker 1: the game for so long.
Speaker 4: So so yeah, yeah, I mean it felt like everything
Speaker 4: was going his way, and even you look at that
Speaker 4: final hand, you know, at the final hand he pushes
Speaker 4: Bran off of pat nine induced to seven.
Speaker 2: Off the best hand. Yeah, off the hand.
Speaker 4: If Brin stays pat, he doubles up, he doubles up,
Speaker 4: he decides to break. He's nine to seven to Joe
Speaker 4: to a wheel, pairs up his deuce. Grinder had the
Speaker 4: ten six, pushed him off and like, you know, what
Speaker 4: is what is your day?
Speaker 2: It's just your day, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean he kind of he kind of mindfed him
Speaker 1: on that final hand, which I think Grinder did quite
Speaker 1: a bit of, you know, especially late on day four.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of talking to his opponents, kind
Speaker 1: of manipulating them in one direction or another. The same
Speaker 1: sort of thing happened at times today at the final
Speaker 1: table or yesterday at the final table. I should say
Speaker 1: there was one key hand where I thought Jalvierra made
Speaker 1: a mistake folding top hair with jack three when Grinder
Speaker 1: ripped it in with an open ended straight flustra on
Speaker 1: the turn.
Speaker 2: Believe that was Nolan hold.
Speaker 1: Him, yeah, Jalli thought, thought, thought thought ultimately folded the
Speaker 1: best hand. Now, of course, there was still one card
Speaker 1: to come, so Grinder could have Hitten with the way
Speaker 1: that he was running. I mean, he probably would have
Speaker 1: just smashed straight flush. But still I don't I didn't
Speaker 1: understand how Via folded that hand in that spot. I
Speaker 1: think there were a lot of people, you know, he
Speaker 1: was getting a lot of texts, different group chats or
Speaker 1: whatever that were watching the stream. We're in the same boat.
Speaker 1: But that's the type of day that it was for
Speaker 1: Michael mcrocky. You know, he whenever he was drawing, he
Speaker 1: like immediately drew to the best hand whenever he needed
Speaker 1: to get a bluff through, as evidenced by the fact
Speaker 1: that I mean it was a semi bluff, yes, but
Speaker 1: still like he didn't have to go to the river,
Speaker 1: go to showdown against Ja Viera. Jau just folded, so
Speaker 1: like everything just worked out. Even when he got on
Speaker 1: the final hand, as you mentioned, he got the best
Speaker 1: hand to break and he ultimately wins it. So a really,
Speaker 1: really incredible stellar performance from Michael mcrocky, and we had
Speaker 1: the chance to sit down with him afterwards. So let's
Speaker 1: hear from the grinder, all right, Mike now won the
Speaker 1: fifty KPPC four times, something no one else has ever done.
Speaker 1: What is it about this event that brings out the
Speaker 1: best in you?
Speaker 3: Well, when you're playing out to playing the best. You
Speaker 3: got to be the best, you know, and it's just
Speaker 3: I've just been very fortunate. I don't even know how
Speaker 3: to do it, tell you truth. I mean, it's kind
Speaker 3: of crazy. I had a shot twenty five times at
Speaker 3: a shot last year and then I had a straight bubble.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I just run really well in
Speaker 3: this tournament and I'm having a good I mean, I
Speaker 3: have a great World Series before. I think it's my
Speaker 3: eleventh cash that had probably fourteen events. So but I
Speaker 3: paid a lot of small ones. The only big one
Speaker 3: I played so far, but I plan on playing that
Speaker 3: ten kp lot tomorrow. Yeah, I don't know, just the event.
Speaker 3: I just run good. I can't even explain it. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I played my I probably played my best
Speaker 3: I played. I probably played better than the last three
Speaker 3: ones I played. So yeah, feeling good, just experience. I
Speaker 3: think that's why I probably played better this one than
Speaker 3: the ones in the past.
Speaker 1: All right, take us back, you know, before the bracelets,
Speaker 1: before the titles, Poker still a dream to you, did
Speaker 1: you ever like think that it could amount to this
Speaker 1: all this success?
Speaker 3: Tell you the truth that and ever, I mean I
Speaker 3: thought that in the beginning, I knew I had the talent.
Speaker 3: I started when I was fourteen, fifteen years old, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, always looked up to Rob. You know, he's
Speaker 3: but I always felt like, you know, we have we're
Speaker 3: guiding Charlie, you know, we just he was my more,
Speaker 3: my mentor, and then we learned a lot from each other,
Speaker 3: and a lot was just self taught and then just
Speaker 3: watching people play it just you know, just I was
Speaker 3: like kind of like transforming from learning from this one
Speaker 3: this one, this one, I'm making my own game and
Speaker 3: then just and I just I make those. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm play a lot of cash, and I played more.
Speaker 3: Actually i've played. I've been playing a lot more cash.
Speaker 3: I haven't played a tournament in a year. Tell you
Speaker 3: was the last tournament I played, won the World Series event.
Speaker 3: It was online. Then I haven't been I haven't payed
Speaker 3: a tournament since last since last year. And now it's like
Speaker 3: I'm playing a lot of cash. But now after you
Speaker 3: win a few tournaments, you're like, you feel good about it,
Speaker 3: you want to keep doing it. It's confidence.
Speaker 1: Every poker career has its ups and downs. I'm sure
Speaker 1: yours has had its fair share of it as well.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you know the highs and the
Speaker 1: lows teach you about life?
Speaker 3: I could, I've been up here, been down there, I've
Speaker 3: seen everything, but I keep them at like I just
Speaker 3: always keep my composure, like I know I'll get it
Speaker 3: back if I'm go down. I know I'm not worried.
Speaker 3: I know my talent and my skill will get me
Speaker 3: where I want to be.
Speaker 1: And here it is, and part of that has to
Speaker 1: be the supports. Isn't that you have every time you're deep?
Speaker 1: You got a big rail? How is that support system?
Speaker 3: What does it mean to you? I mean I have
Speaker 3: the best best friends, best family, I mean, my kids,
Speaker 3: just everyone just very supportive. When I'm down. They're always
Speaker 3: there for me. Even when I'm high, there here for me.
Speaker 3: But like just I got a great real Okay, I
Speaker 3: can't say that I love them all.
Speaker 1: When people talk about the legends of the game, do
Speaker 1: you feel like your name gets mentioned enough?
Speaker 3: I think it does. Maybe this will this might get
Speaker 3: it done. I would think so after four PPC titles,
Speaker 3: and it's quite an accomplishment. And I have no words
Speaker 3: to express. I mean, this is crazy. I can't even
Speaker 3: believe it.
Speaker 1: Do you have your sights on the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: We'll see. I mean I didn't. I'm not in it yet,
Speaker 3: but it pushed me to work harder. It motivates me.
Speaker 3: But if I'm not in it, so I'll keep working.
Speaker 3: But I don't make it. Next year a good launer,
Speaker 3: maybe I'll win the PPC again.
Speaker 1: Four PPC titles. What does this win say about Michael Msrocky.
Speaker 3: I'm the PPC champ baby.
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to.
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Speaker 1: On the coverage today, Blesnik was calling this well at
Speaker 1: the time, he was saying, if Grinder does go on
Speaker 1: to win, it would be the greatest accomplishment in poker history.
Speaker 2: Do you agree or disagree?
Speaker 4: Well, my boy Bill Boyd may have some of the
Speaker 4: someone quit the listening at home are not allowed to talk,
Speaker 4: but anyone pre nineteen ninety, just for the Donnie Peters
Speaker 4: iron if you're watching this on YouTube, you would have
Speaker 4: witnessed it was perfect greatest accomplishment in poker.
Speaker 2: What is what's it? What's it is?
Speaker 4: His competition? Okay Friedman, he did it three in a row,
Speaker 4: yep mark Newhouse, back to back final tables. All right,
Speaker 4: it doesn't even register.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So let's said, as let's grinding, let's put it all
Speaker 4: in a bucket and see which one flows to the top,
Speaker 4: is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: What else could we even put in there at.
Speaker 4: The WSP Well, I mean I think it's Aaron Cummings
Speaker 4: back to back to seven triple Joe wins.
Speaker 1: I mean the closest comparison is obviously Adam Friedman.
Speaker 2: Yep, So do you yeah? Do you yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you do you add some weight to Friedman? Because
Speaker 1: one he did it three consecutive wins? Okay, there's that
Speaker 1: also in your opinion, Like if you're waiting it, do
Speaker 1: you consider Dealer's Choice to be a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a difficult game than a nine game mix, which
Speaker 1: has a structure it flows, you know from games one
Speaker 1: through nine, it goes from one to one one, you know,
Speaker 1: it keeps going through them, whereas Dealer's Choice, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you have no idea what anyone's going to pick, Like
Speaker 1: they could throw you for a loop. There's what is
Speaker 1: the twenty one games in the in the rotation game,
Speaker 1: so you know there's that element. I would say that
Speaker 1: the I know, the money is bigger. Of course in
Speaker 1: the fifty k PPC, it's five times to buy, and yes,
Speaker 1: but fields are probably very very very similar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, skill wise, numbers wise, I think winning I'm going
Speaker 4: to say winning a dealer's choice might be slightly harder
Speaker 4: than winning the PPC just because of what you said.
Speaker 4: You're going to be playing games that you know, maybe
Speaker 4: you know you have never played. We saw a tweet
Speaker 4: I think it was a tweet from David gunslinger Buck
Speaker 4: today he is a PPC winner, wanted to play some
Speaker 4: cash and he played these silly circus games of Badaci
Speaker 4: and Baduci. Well that's kind of the core of mixed
Speaker 4: game cash game mixed games now, so that's part of
Speaker 4: the dealer's choice. So, you know, I think winning a
Speaker 4: dealer's choice is maybe slightly harder. But the fact that
Speaker 4: grind has been able to win four of these over
Speaker 4: you know, pretty much what is it. First one was
Speaker 4: twenty ten, you know, fifteen years and it's beening in
Speaker 4: different variations. He won the eight game when it was
Speaker 4: no limit holding final table. He won the eight games, oh,
Speaker 4: very first one. Yeah, his first one was that, his
Speaker 4: second one was normal eight game, and now and now
Speaker 4: he's got the nine game one. So I he's wanted
Speaker 4: in two different formats, well three really different formats, I
Speaker 4: guess you could say. And the fact that he's got four,
Speaker 4: I just you just it's hot to not give him
Speaker 4: the advantage the upper hand in this in this discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm giving it to Grinder for sure. I think
Speaker 1: I agree with Buzzle, like this is the greatest accomplishment
Speaker 1: that we've seen in poker. Now. What's also interesting is
Speaker 1: that there's somebody that could do it if they just
Speaker 1: win this tournament once more, and that's Brian Rast, which
Speaker 1: is pretty wild to think about.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: For as good as it is for Michael Mnsrocky to
Speaker 1: win four PPC titles, there is another player that, you know,
Speaker 1: in one year's time, we could be talking about him
Speaker 1: tying that incredible record, which is wild to think about.
Speaker 1: Very interesting stuff. Congratulations to Grinder, very very very cool
Speaker 1: night here at the World Series of Poker. And then
Speaker 1: speaking of dominance, kind of in the same ve, we
Speaker 1: got Shina Okamoto dominating the Ladies Championship. She is one
Speaker 1: of seven entering Sunday's final table. There were more than
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred entries in this field. Now, Okamoto, if you
Speaker 1: recall if that name sounds familiar, if you've seen pictures
Speaker 1: of her and you're like, where have I seen that
Speaker 1: face before? Well, two years ago she took second in
Speaker 1: this very event for one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: and then last year she went and won. Uped herself.
Speaker 1: She said, you know what, second's not good enough.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win the damn thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she won it for one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars, and now she has a fairly sizable
Speaker 1: chip lead. Entering the final table, she has twenty four
Speaker 1: more big blinds than second place. Seven players remain. They
Speaker 1: are guaranteed twenty six thousand dollars, one hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars up top, and Okamota is freaking in
Speaker 1: the driver's seat again.
Speaker 2: She's absolutely crushing and I don't understand what's happening.
Speaker 4: It's just like we didn't understand Grind and we don't
Speaker 4: understand this either. She's just ever since day one, Like
Speaker 4: you said, second in chips now chip leader.
Speaker 2: It's kind of just crazy. It was.
Speaker 4: What's funny, though, is I was over there after dinner break.
Speaker 4: You know, I was going to talk to the ladies
Speaker 4: about the plan of the day, and our resident bio writer, Keegan,
Speaker 4: who was handing out the bioboards and we were chatting.
Speaker 4: He goes, yeah, like you know, oh, we have to
Speaker 4: give him out to everyone. He goes everyone, but you know,
Speaker 4: she know, like, oh yeah, obviously he goes. They're filling
Speaker 4: it out. He leans into her, He's like, is there
Speaker 4: anything you want to add to this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, she already got We've done it twice,
Speaker 4: so we don't really need her age again or her
Speaker 4: name again. We've got all that information. And she points
Speaker 4: to the like biggest accomplishment and like she goes, just
Speaker 4: change this one from to last year. You know, her
Speaker 4: English isn't great, but we could, we both, you know,
Speaker 4: Kegan laughed.
Speaker 2: She laughed.
Speaker 4: You know, so obviously her greatest accomplishment last year was
Speaker 4: second the Ladies now makes it's obviously winning, so that's
Speaker 4: her on them. Then who knows next year when she's
Speaker 4: chip later in the twenty twenty six Ladies Championship, she's
Speaker 4: gonna say, you know, the two wins I have in
Speaker 4: this event, So she's gonna be basically the next Michael's Manserahi,
Speaker 4: but for the Ladies Championship.
Speaker 1: You know, I listened, actually finished it up this morning
Speaker 1: on the Drive in but to the Table one podcast
Speaker 1: Justin Young and Art Parman. But they had on Chris Brewer,
Speaker 1: and Chris was talking about, you know, his career and
Speaker 1: his life in the game and whatever, and at one
Speaker 1: point he mentioned how he doesn't really believe the confidence
Speaker 1: is a thing in poker, and I'm sorry, but I
Speaker 1: just to disagree. Now, I mean, he did explain himself
Speaker 1: a little bit further. When I say I have to
Speaker 1: disagree with him, I'm I'm, you know, half joking, but
Speaker 1: I do. I do believe confidence is a big thing.
Speaker 1: And like as it pertains to shea Okamoto, like she
Speaker 1: has to feel supremely confident when she comes into the
Speaker 1: Ladies Championship every year, and I think it then shows
Speaker 1: through her play like she's just she's just doing it,
Speaker 1: and every decision that she makes she must just feel like, yes,
Speaker 1: this is the right one and yes this is gonna work,
Speaker 1: and there's no cloud in her judgment. She's just able
Speaker 1: to come whatever the right answer is. So I do
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot to say about confidence in poker. Now,
Speaker 1: if you do actually listen to the Table one podcast
Speaker 1: with Chris brew which I would highly recommend because it's
Speaker 1: very good. But he talked about how confidence and you
Speaker 1: know it maybe isn't so much of a thing in
Speaker 1: the way that I'm referring to it at the most
Speaker 1: elite levels, because you know, those players, the Chris Brewers,
Speaker 1: the Steven Chidwick's, the Nick Petrangelo's, you know, Shawn Winter's,
Speaker 1: all those guys like there, They're always going to really
Speaker 1: be playing their A game. It really doesn't matter. So
Speaker 1: and then you know, if you're Chris also said, I
Speaker 1: believe if I'm stating it correctly, but if you're B
Speaker 1: and C game at those levels isn't very very close
Speaker 1: to your A game, then you should never just never
Speaker 1: be playing those levels. And the confidence factor probably applies
Speaker 1: much more to lower buying stuff. You know, hence the
Speaker 1: Ladies Championship, you know, which has a one K buy
Speaker 1: and gets thirteen hundred runners. You know, this isn't a
Speaker 1: Triton Field or a PGT or something like that, where
Speaker 1: it's much smaller. It's more like, you know, whatever one
Speaker 1: hundred entries, you know, much more elite player play or whatnot.
Speaker 1: Not that these women aren't very very good, because they
Speaker 1: clearly are, but it's just kind of a different process
Speaker 1: to go through it, right. You might not just be
Speaker 1: like full robotic the whole time. You know, you're doing
Speaker 1: more of like live poker player type of stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: feeling your way through things, reading the situation, whatnot. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was there was one clip that our social media
Speaker 1: guys sent in that I watched where Sheena jammed I
Speaker 1: believe was on the river against a lady and it
Speaker 1: didn't seem like it was that much more than like
Speaker 1: what the bet was or and the pot was very big,
Speaker 1: and the woman tanked and tanked and tank and eventually folded,
Speaker 1: and like the other the rest of the table is
Speaker 1: kind of like how did you fold?
Speaker 2: Like you know whatever.
Speaker 1: But like that's where I'm thinking about the confidence thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, maybe Okamota is just like no,
Speaker 1: I know this woman's gonna fold. I know, like I
Speaker 1: know she's may maybe I think she's playing scared. She
Speaker 1: is really close to the final table and she wants
Speaker 1: to make it, so I'm just gonna pounce, so you know,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think in factor in at these
Speaker 1: types of levels, and I think Okamoto is just executing
Speaker 1: to absolute perfection. And it's going to be very exciting
Speaker 1: to watch this stream on Sunday. Sunday, June twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: the stream is going to be on Poker Go eight
Speaker 1: pm Eastern, five pm Pacific. We're gonna have Lawn mccaron
Speaker 1: and Jen Shahade on the call. Natalie Bode is going
Speaker 1: to be on the sidelines, and I'm super excited to
Speaker 1: see how she does this file table. I'm I'm fully
Speaker 1: expecting her to end up in the Winter Circle. I
Speaker 1: just am like, I feel like it's just one of
Speaker 1: those runs, much like I felt like with Michael the
Speaker 1: Grinders Rocky. I am just ready again. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think we should keep the name Ladies Championship because
Speaker 1: I think this event deserves to, you know, shed light
Speaker 1: that it is on the Ladies Championship event of the
Speaker 1: world in poker, but it is presented by she and Okamoto,
Speaker 1: like it's it's done, it's you can just, you can just.
Speaker 2: It's toasted, it's sponsored, it's everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, she should be presenting the bracelet should she
Speaker 1: not win like herself, the whole.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in the case that she doesn't win, like
Speaker 1: if herraces get cracked or whatever that happens, you know
Speaker 1: she can present it because yeah, this is her event,
Speaker 1: like it really really is. It's absolutely incredible to watch
Speaker 1: this run. You know, even if she were to go
Speaker 1: out seventh tomorrow, let's say, a second, then a first
Speaker 1: and then a seventh is unheard of, absolutely unheard of.
Speaker 1: So congrats so far to she and O Kamodo. But
Speaker 1: like like you always think about in poker tournaments, you're
Speaker 1: never really going to be happy until you win. So
Speaker 1: I'm assuming she's going to be very very very interested
Speaker 1: and of course gunning for that victory. She's ahead of
Speaker 1: Juliet Hedjdas probably butchered that name. I'm sorry, Juliette, Stephanie
Speaker 1: Hagberg in third, Sonya Shasha Keina, Heather Alcorn, Julie hun
Speaker 1: and Sumiri.
Speaker 2: Huno Maaki.
Speaker 1: I for sure butchered eight percent of those names, and
Speaker 1: I apologize.
Speaker 2: I think Heather, I believe, is a previous dealer of
Speaker 2: the Year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not only deal of the year. Yes, she plays
Speaker 1: now quite a lot. She plays a lot of the
Speaker 1: different games. She's had some success, and here she is
Speaker 1: running deep making the final seven. She's got twenty six
Speaker 1: big blinds to work with. Okamoto stack has ninety four
Speaker 1: big linds in it. So you know, not only has
Speaker 1: she made the final table with the chip lead, with
Speaker 1: a pretty healthy chip lead again twenty four big linds
Speaker 1: over the next closest player, but she's got a lot
Speaker 1: of big lines to work with. You know, they're they're
Speaker 1: fairly deep here. So I'm excited to see she and
Speaker 1: Okamoto get to work again. That will be streaming Sunday
Speaker 1: onn Poker gro Lon mccaron, Gensha Hotti on the Call
Speaker 1: eight Eastern, five Pacific. Elong Wang is the winner of
Speaker 1: his first WSOP Gold bracelet. He won the three K
Speaker 1: no limit hold him for eight hundred and thirty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Ran Elani took second place.
Speaker 2: Ren Linn.
Speaker 1: We all know Ren Lynn, mister no Gamble in the future,
Speaker 1: mister Tom Brady, mister Lady Gaga. He took third for
Speaker 1: four h six. Julian Kolev fourth, Gunal Potny fifth, sengyun
Speaker 1: Nam sixth place, Fabrizio Gonzalez seventh, Jason Richard eighth, Powan
Speaker 1: Bonsel ninth and then Stephen Jones runs out the top ten.
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones former runner up in the WSP main Event
Speaker 1: to Daniel Weinman. He finished in tenth place. Pretty fun
Speaker 1: to see. Well, it was ultimately four final tables happening
Speaker 1: if you include the ladies one. I know, like we
Speaker 1: talk about it, like the tables happening on Sunday, but
Speaker 1: they also got down to one table and they had
Speaker 1: to play. They played down to seven. So you had
Speaker 1: the ten K Deuce to seven Championship, which is still
Speaker 1: playing and we'll talk about that they're still playing. You had,
Speaker 1: of course the PPC, you had this three K, and
Speaker 1: then you had that Ladies like all happening at once,
Speaker 1: among the fact that you had all of the tournaments
Speaker 1: going on in this main event center room here at Horseshoe,
Speaker 1: so certainly buzzing, absolutely buzzing, and part of the reason
Speaker 1: why that was buzzing. Second largest live tournament ever. This
Speaker 1: is one of those days at the World Series of
Speaker 1: Poker where I feel like we're gonna we can like
Speaker 1: remember this day. Specifically, you obviously had grind her. What
Speaker 1: shina O Kamoto is doing is incredible, and then you
Speaker 1: have the Gladiators of Poker becoming the second largest live
Speaker 1: tournament ever. So I'm thinking, like many years down the road,
Speaker 1: because we have that article on PGT dot com where
Speaker 1: it's the top fifteen largest poker tournaments, right, and now
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to put that the entry for this tournament,
Speaker 1: this Gladiator's Tournament into second place. Yeah, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years down the road, we might be looking
Speaker 1: at this list, referencing here or whatever. We're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: remember second, Remember that that was the day when Grinder
Speaker 1: did this, and she did that, and oh Nick Schulman
Speaker 1: was going for his second the summer, like all that
Speaker 1: was happening at once. Like it's one of those things
Speaker 1: that just sticks in your mind. So enormous field here
Speaker 1: for day one d of the Gladiators of Poker Tournament
Speaker 1: nine eight hundred and seventy five, which is which.
Speaker 4: Is oh sorry I didn't know, wait which is it
Speaker 4: is the largest which in WSP history.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was like, what what are you pointing on me? Please,
Speaker 2: for the love of God helped me. You can tell
Speaker 2: me you're gonna throw it to me, but yeah, that's
Speaker 2: the largest. I was literally about to poke your eye out.
Speaker 4: It topped twenty nineteen Big fifty flight one day, ninety
Speaker 4: one hundred entrance.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: This is also forty percent of the field in this
Speaker 4: flight one day of glad days, but not the biggest
Speaker 4: percentage of all that ALI do to one camister millions
Speaker 4: this year forty one point four four percent was pretty close.
Speaker 4: But I largest flight in w SOOP history. Sorry about
Speaker 4: the the little.
Speaker 1: Just to put a little bit more into context just
Speaker 1: how big the flight was today. Last year's day one
Speaker 1: deep and sixty nine entries. This year as we've been
Speaker 1: talking about eight hundred and seventy five, so more than
Speaker 1: three thousand entries better than last year's final flight.
Speaker 2: That is wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and once again, I'm not sure I heard much
Speaker 1: at all about long registration lines, not going ten handed,
Speaker 1: you know anything. Everything seemed like it was flowing quite nicely.
Speaker 1: I know the hallways and the bathrooms were a little
Speaker 1: bit backed up on the brakes, but other than that,
Speaker 1: smooth sailing. Yeah, absolutely smooth sailing. So kudos to the
Speaker 1: WSOP there for that one. Again, quite a bit of
Speaker 1: ways to go in this one, so we'll touch on
Speaker 1: it more in the next episode when we thin the field.
Speaker 1: A little bit more, we start seeing you know, who's
Speaker 1: building big stacks where they're going from there. I don't
Speaker 1: think we have the prize pool yet, the full prize,
Speaker 1: but I know they all got into the money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they issue the big prize pool.
Speaker 1: But it's probably gonna be around what five hundred k
Speaker 1: for first? You think, Yeah, which is which is wild?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean it really is a three lot of a ticket, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. So I would much rather play that
Speaker 1: than actually going to just buy a lot of a ticket.
Speaker 1: I'd much rather fire on.
Speaker 2: This just because it's more chance of the lot of
Speaker 2: a ticket.
Speaker 1: It's more fun to play poker. It is though, It's
Speaker 1: just way more fun to play poker. The ten k
Speaker 1: p l O Championship event. I'm still holding out, by
Speaker 1: the way, and this ten k deuces seven just to
Speaker 1: see if we can get a winner or whatever happens there.
Speaker 1: They were three handed when we started the show.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're getting I don't think we're getting
Speaker 2: a winner.
Speaker 1: So you just want to talk about it now, Let's
Speaker 1: have a let's have.
Speaker 2: A quick look at the chip counts.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: We could, but I think we should talk about it now,
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 1: There are three players left the ten K limit Duce
Speaker 1: to seven Triple Draw Championship. The three players are Matthew Shreiver,
Speaker 1: Nick Shulman and Alexander Wilkinson. Shulman is of course going
Speaker 1: for his eighth Wsop Gold bracelet, his second this summer.
Speaker 1: He won the ten k No limit Duce to seven
Speaker 1: Single Draw earlier in the summer, and here he is
Speaker 1: in the final three right now as things stand eleven
Speaker 1: forty three pm on Saturday night. Matthew Shreiver is the
Speaker 1: current chip lead. But they've kind of been all over
Speaker 1: the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Wilkinson's had the chip lead, Shulman was short drivers had
Speaker 1: the chip lead. You know, Shulman's had the chip but
Speaker 1: they've been all over the place. So don't think we're
Speaker 1: going to get a winner in this one tonight. So
Speaker 1: let's just touch on it. We'll leave it there, we'll
Speaker 1: come back tomorrow. But do you want to mention three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three thousand dollars up? Top final three
Speaker 1: players are guaranteed one hundred and forty four thousand. We
Speaker 1: lost high Park in fourth place. We lost Brian Tate,
Speaker 1: founder and CEO of Oats Overnight Oats Overnight Baby, Yurizeelefski
Speaker 1: in sixth place, Oscar Johansson in seventh and friend of
Speaker 1: the podcast Pedro Brohmpman in eighth place. So that's how
Speaker 1: we got down to the final three again. Final three
Speaker 1: guaranteed one hundred and forty four thousand dollars, Second place
Speaker 1: is two fifteen and first place is three three three.
Speaker 1: So we'll finish wrapping up on this one if it
Speaker 1: happens to end tonight in the next I don't know,
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty minutes whatever. Zero chance, yeah, zero chance. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: there's always a non zero chance that is true. Somebody
Speaker 1: could go on a heater like Michael Mamsrocky and just
Speaker 1: run through them, a lot through them. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: got the ten k PLO Championship that kicked off today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine this one is just going
Speaker 1: to be enormous. At seven two runners right now, what
Speaker 1: are to have last year probably are already be last
Speaker 1: year's it had eight eleven, so probably going it was
Speaker 1: going to smash through that. Yeah, I'm gonna get over
Speaker 1: nine hundred for sure. I know you wrote down that
Speaker 1: Jeremie Osmas was leading.
Speaker 2: He's not third and Chips. I don't see him leading. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not.
Speaker 4: Alex j Uh plays on some of our champions clup
Speaker 4: Streams down in Houston, Texas. He's a chip leader. Rengie
Speaker 4: Mass second and Chips. They got Frank Brannan up there,
Speaker 4: Thomas Taylor, he's having a very good world series. Uh,
Speaker 4: Tuby Lewis, Richard Greiico, Gabrielle and got a lot of
Speaker 4: plow names that people be uh familiar with.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is a four day event. It's a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a slug.
Speaker 4: This one is a slug, but only one entry to
Speaker 4: freeze out. I believes the one where they thought they
Speaker 4: added the re entrance.
Speaker 1: I think it was back and forth seventeen different times.
Speaker 1: But I believe it is a free freeze out. And
Speaker 1: I even think that the way Twitter account tweeted out
Speaker 1: the ten k plow freeze out.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, just well like everyone knows this is the
Speaker 1: freeze out.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: Renland busted, Jason Mercer busted, Mickey Duack, Brandis Shack, Harris Hucks, Seed,
Speaker 1: Scott sever David Williams, Barney Bowtman and George Wolf have
Speaker 1: all been eliminated.
Speaker 2: We also lost.
Speaker 1: Tommy Lee, the legend legend who I guess according to
Speaker 1: this Poker News report because he's in the same hand
Speaker 1: with Allen Lee was at the same table as his brother. Wow,
Speaker 1: brother and brother crime. What's up with that?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So that's the ten k PLO. I would expect this
Speaker 1: one to just get again nine hundred plus nine fifty.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: One of the other people that we lost in this
Speaker 1: event was the one and only Daniel Legrando. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he made a boo boo good. What is it the
Speaker 1: the oopsie meter? By the way, we have a duck
Speaker 1: up that we've talked about.
Speaker 4: He has an oops Yeah, he has an oopsie me
Speaker 4: because he misread his hand.
Speaker 2: Everyone's on it.
Speaker 1: I mean, are you Daniel Legrnanho or you're not Danny?
Speaker 2: I mean I did it in a one tune limn Cash.
Speaker 2: You didn't do it in the ten k.
Speaker 1: You didn't do it in the ten k Polo Freeze
Speaker 1: Out Championships, did you, right?
Speaker 2: Definitely not the PLOFC. That's the PLFC.
Speaker 1: So I guess this hand, according to Poker News, was
Speaker 1: against Max Steinberg and it looks like his blind verse
Speaker 1: blind Steinberg and the small blind in the big mine.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure this will be on Daniel's log at
Speaker 1: least I hope it will be, because we'll see the
Speaker 1: upsie meter. But they get to a final board of
Speaker 1: seven three deuce King ten, no flush present. Steinberg checks
Speaker 1: negran New jams all in for what he had left
Speaker 1: was forty six hundred at the time. Steinberg calls Niggaranney
Speaker 1: turns over King Queen Jack knighte. I remember the board
Speaker 1: is seven three duce King ten. Nigrania has King Queen
Speaker 1: Jack Knine, so he just has a pair of kings
Speaker 1: which is with a Queen kicker. And then he said
Speaker 1: he immediately realizes what happened, and he says, I misread
Speaker 1: my hand. Thought he had King ten girls. He would
Speaker 1: have checked and Steinberg did have King ten, had King
Speaker 1: ten eighty five. So Steinberg with the two pair, Nigaranny
Speaker 1: thought he had two pair, and Negraneu is out and
Speaker 1: he'll be on to the next one. So what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Happens to everyone. I guess you can
Speaker 1: just reenter right, No, you cannot. This is the freeze
Speaker 1: out chamber time of the entire Partlam in Omaha World. Okay,
Speaker 1: so no re entry for d N Eggs. A little
Speaker 1: boo boo there, a little oopsie meter, but no big deal.
Speaker 1: He'll be in the next tournament. The fifteen one hundred
Speaker 1: dollars eight game is cruising along right now. Where are
Speaker 1: we at in this one?
Speaker 4: There is a nineteen remaining the seven and eighty nine entrance.
Speaker 4: Massive increase from lost year. I think it was like
Speaker 4: four everyone's guaranteed seven k. Right now they're playing for
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty four thousand. Working out way from
Speaker 4: the bottom op of the chip gas Brad Rubin shooting
Speaker 4: for a second bracelet of the summer. Nico Milgrim there,
Speaker 4: he's in fourteenth place.
Speaker 2: Niko's gonna win this one.
Speaker 4: This is Mokei, Steve Bila, Rakas Silk grinding away thirteenth
Speaker 4: in chips. We have Scott Abrams up there, move up
Speaker 4: fifteen chips.
Speaker 2: Xinyang low? Is that how we say it? Dingyang low?
Speaker 4: Anyway, he's shooting for his second bracelet of the summer,
Speaker 4: fourth in twelve months, because he won two last summer,
Speaker 4: and the chip leader is Nakas Nadelku I.
Speaker 1: Like when you have to say the names and I
Speaker 1: don't know, this gives you a bit of arrest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, because you just trade off events
Speaker 2: if you want. Okay, you just you're the boss. You
Speaker 2: tell me what to do.
Speaker 1: Nineteen players remain. They're guaranteed seventy seven hundred dollars up top,
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty four thousand dollars. Congratulations Nico on
Speaker 1: your first goal. Braceletcause you Saier are going to win
Speaker 1: this one field bonus or I can already tell seventeen
Speaker 1: no eight, well yeah, eighteen left?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he got a field bonus. How many were
Speaker 2: in there? Seven eighty nine? Yeah, so field.
Speaker 1: Bonus of seven seven plus five or twelve, So right now,
Speaker 1: twelve points for good old Nico Milgram.
Speaker 2: He's gonna win, so it doesn't matter. He is going
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it. Yeah, I am feeling it. We have
Speaker 1: the twenty five at all mixed big bet. Did that
Speaker 1: start today?
Speaker 2: No? This is starting tomorrow Sunday?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: So? Only only the plos started today?
Speaker 2: Only the PLO side today? Figure? Remember I thought, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean we both we both messed up. It's a
Speaker 2: double duck up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we we announced. I said the mini main
Speaker 4: event was starting on Saturday. I'm going to claim the
Speaker 4: duck up mainly because every World series I built this
Speaker 4: master Google sheet that everyone works off and it's normally perfect.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, it's.
Speaker 4: Colors highly questionable on that, guys, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Highly questionable.
Speaker 4: And for some reason I had the mini main events
Speaker 4: starting on Saturday, and obviously no one questioned it because
Speaker 4: my stuff is perfect and it actually starts on Sunday.
Speaker 4: You thought it sat on, You thought it was weird
Speaker 4: that decided on Sunday on Saturday, but you.
Speaker 2: Didn't want to question it because I never make a mistake.
Speaker 1: I mostly didn't question it because it was about four
Speaker 1: time five morning over it. But yes, I was trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how it was going to operate on
Speaker 1: three hours of sleep and play the event.
Speaker 2: But thankfully I don't have to do that.
Speaker 4: Produce a rich You can put the little duck up
Speaker 4: here that's on May. But yeah, that's gonna start Sunday.
Speaker 4: Six thousand, seventy six runners lost. Yeah, the other events
Speaker 4: thought he used the twenty five hundred mixed Big Bet
Speaker 4: and that had four hundred and sixty eight runners in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, so two events on Sunday Jelly twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: Well on this Mini main event, given the fact that
Speaker 1: the Gladiators of Poker had three thousand more entries, yeah
Speaker 1: than last year, or more than three thousand more inchries
Speaker 1: in less year, right, how much was the total?
Speaker 2: Three thousand was?
Speaker 1: The last flight had three thousand more, so it had
Speaker 1: almost four thousand more.
Speaker 4: For four thousand, yeah thirty nine, just under four thousand more.
Speaker 1: So given how big that is, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: a nice lead in to then take a shot in
Speaker 1: the Mini main event, especially if you cash, if you
Speaker 1: act just part of that money, but you could also
Speaker 1: be one of those things where you come on out
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I'll play I don't know, two or
Speaker 1: three shells in the Gladiators of Poker, you know, six
Speaker 1: hundred or nine hundred bucks, and then I got another
Speaker 1: one thousand I can put into the Mini main two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a pretty good trip, you know, I get
Speaker 1: two kicks at it.
Speaker 2: Let's go or you know, two events.
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is pretty good scheduling here
Speaker 1: that at this Mini main event is going to be
Speaker 1: pretty big. So you said, what last year was six
Speaker 1: thousand and seventy six. I'm going sixty eight hundred. It's
Speaker 1: a big number.
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to go much bigger actually,
Speaker 4: So you know, I personally do think the difference between
Speaker 4: three hundred one thousand is a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is a good This is still the
Speaker 2: good place.
Speaker 4: You know that the Gladiator is targets, So I didn't
Speaker 4: see a lot of people going to Polay just you know,
Speaker 4: coming here playing both see a lot of people taking
Speaker 4: some shots in the Gladiators, you know, obviously one thousand dollars,
Speaker 4: that's three bullets.
Speaker 2: In the Gladiators versus wanting the Mini.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree, there'll be an It is a Sunday,
Speaker 4: you know, going into that kind of July fourth, you know,
Speaker 4: take the week off, come to Vegas kind of like ideal.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 4: It's gonna definitely be a nice, big one, nice lead
Speaker 4: into the real.
Speaker 2: To the real main events. Yeah, I still wish they
Speaker 2: called that.
Speaker 1: Nine game tournament the Mini PPC. They got the Mini
Speaker 1: main event, they should have the Mini PPC. That's what
Speaker 1: I would absolutely love to see. The main event starts
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I'm leaning more and more that it's just
Speaker 1: gonna get bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: I feel like every day I add another fifty entries
Speaker 1: in my head.
Speaker 2: So we'll see where we end up.
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna work on a special main event
Speaker 1: preview podcast coming up in the in the upcoming days,
Speaker 1: so we'll have more on that. But another big day
Speaker 1: ahead on or yeah, on Sunday at the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five World Series of Poker, I'm most looking forward to
Speaker 1: that Ladies Championship Finals, say well, that will be streaming
Speaker 1: on Poker Grow eight pm Eastern five pm Pacific time.
Speaker 1: Shina Okamoto is looking to defend her title. She is
Speaker 1: the chip leader with seven left, so I'm going to
Speaker 1: be keeping an eye on that. I do have to
Speaker 1: go do commentary over at Venetian. They got a sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred dollars Ultimate Stack final table, so that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun as well. So if you want
Speaker 1: to join us there, that stream starts at noon, Vegas
Speaker 1: time three on the East Coast. I believe it should
Speaker 1: be done or right around done at the latest before
Speaker 1: the Ladies Championship, so you could do double duty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could watch Remco and I doing that Venetian final table,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you can hop on into the
Speaker 1: Lad's Championship with Lon Mheron and Jen Shahati. So join
Speaker 1: us in the streaming streets.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: We also actually have a third stream that day. Huh,
Speaker 4: I have a third stream total. We have have the BENMGM.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. We do have creating cash game.
Speaker 4: So if you you know, if tournaments you bit style,
Speaker 4: you want to come watch some cash games. BENMGM have
Speaker 4: a few events starting tomorrow with firstly with a creative
Speaker 4: cash game. Monday is the Big League Live streams. Got
Speaker 4: a bunch of retired MLB athletes. Gary Sheffield, you know
Speaker 4: that name, Garry Sheffield. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 4: that is. I'm the baseball guy, Rich knows exactly what
Speaker 4: I'm going. Andrew Jones you know that name? Yeah, and
Speaker 4: with you and then A J. Purrensky. I think they're
Speaker 4: the most the three famous guys. Apologies to you baseball
Speaker 4: fans out there. I'm not a big baseball guy. But
Speaker 4: that is on Monday, and then July fourth is the
Speaker 4: ben MGM Poker Championship from Aria thirty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Main event they got some big They've had big numbers
Speaker 4: all week, so I think that's going to be a
Speaker 4: pretty big one.
Speaker 1: Some of these numbers that I've been hearing around town
Speaker 1: for the last week or so, I know kind of
Speaker 1: somewhere hit or miss, you know, kind of earlier in
Speaker 1: the summer, but this last week everything sounds free gag.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this week and it's just yeah, it's just like
Speaker 4: is everyone coming into town, is everyone finding some money?
Speaker 4: We don't really know, but yeah, it does feel that
Speaker 4: this week everything's kind of We've been turned off a
Speaker 4: few notches with those you know, Aria specializing in those
Speaker 4: one day eleven hundreds. You know, we have those big
Speaker 4: the main events over at the wind that Ata Matrosian won.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it seems like POK is getting quite busy
Speaker 4: right now. Perfect Timmy really got the main event.
Speaker 1: It definitely is perfect timing, so tons of stuff going on.
Speaker 1: Absolutely love to see it. I do have a couple
Speaker 1: of shout outs that I kind of get to. I
Speaker 1: missed some from yesterday. Again, it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: four point thirty in the morning over the heck time,
Speaker 1: it was by time we started cut to the end
Speaker 1: of the podcast, So forgive me but Benjamin from Sarasota.
Speaker 1: We chatted for probably twenty minutes, maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: longer on just kind of the state of the poker industry,
Speaker 1: the state of poker content, poker on TV, all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. It was a very very good conversation
Speaker 1: that I had with Benjamin. I believe also said that
Speaker 1: he was Brazilian, makes his trip out here every summer,
Speaker 1: has used it as his his Father's Day present, So
Speaker 1: shout out to you. Benjamin. Really did enjoy our conversation.
Speaker 1: It was very interesting. You know, one of the things
Speaker 1: that we talked about specifically is kind of similar to
Speaker 1: the NBA. And I know you're a basketball guy, so
Speaker 1: I can I can draw these parallels here. But you know,
Speaker 1: the NBA had, like right now, they have Lebron James
Speaker 1: and Steph Curry, right those are the two biggest names,
Speaker 1: but they're also kind of on their way out. Who
Speaker 1: are the next stars that people are going to gravitate towards.
Speaker 1: Similar to poker, you know, you got the Danie mcgrowney's,
Speaker 1: got the Phil IV's, you've got the Phil Helmuth, right,
Speaker 1: but they're not going to be around forever. I bet
Speaker 1: it be well, Okay, yes, I mean, they're going to
Speaker 1: be a long round forever. But are they how long
Speaker 1: are they going to be around for? And how long
Speaker 1: are they going to be around in the fact that
Speaker 1: they're like winning and like at the top of the
Speaker 1: game and all that sort of stuff, and like who's
Speaker 1: that next wave, who's that next Luca Dunee?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like Mornin.
Speaker 1: Care honestly, Mark Garbrell could if he plays his cards right.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's just got to be more than
Speaker 1: just that. And I think that the Martin Martin Cobrell
Speaker 1: thing is interesting because in the NBA specifically, I know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversations with you know, NBA heads
Speaker 1: about how like the current biggest stars, at least the
Speaker 1: youngest biggest stars aren't American. Yeah, so do you need
Speaker 1: an American poker player to kind of rise up?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: There are a lot of poker players that they have
Speaker 1: game and they're well known, but do they have the
Speaker 1: personality that the older generation has? So that's kind of
Speaker 1: what Benjamin and I were talking about, you know, because
Speaker 1: that that really that's what sucks to like the mainstream fan,
Speaker 1: like that's what they attached to.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, it's just something to think about, you know,
Speaker 1: and I don't really know or have an answer, and
Speaker 1: that's what we settle al on. But it's always kind
Speaker 1: of something to think about, Like over these next stars.
Speaker 4: I think we've talked about this before that you know,
Speaker 4: playing poker is so different to what it was in
Speaker 4: the two thousands right where you know, these guys are
Speaker 4: on TV. They knew that it was endorsement deals and stuff.
Speaker 4: Nowadays it's very very different. These guys are more serious
Speaker 4: to playing for bigger amounts of money. So what is
Speaker 4: the value to them sitting there laughing, having a good time,
Speaker 4: spilling a drink, throwing some jokes, doing some funny antics.
Speaker 4: There's not that much about There's more value in the
Speaker 4: poker side of things. Playing you know, perfect playing gto
Speaker 4: playing the best you can to maximize your position being
Speaker 4: at a final table or a feature table or something
Speaker 4: like that. So the poker industry is very different to
Speaker 4: what it was in the two thousands, when you know
Speaker 4: ninety percent of fans grew up, you know, idolizing a
Speaker 4: Grindo helm with madis out all these you know, the
Speaker 4: way it was produced to.
Speaker 2: Highlight these stars.
Speaker 4: This is a different it's just kind of a different,
Speaker 4: very different product now like back then, no live streams,
Speaker 4: all edited episodes. Now kind of all live streams. And
Speaker 4: I would say once people mostly watch live streams, they're
Speaker 4: not probably tuning into the episode so they see, you know,
Speaker 4: the long, the long drawn out gameplay versus you're going
Speaker 4: to cut up all these highlights put them together for
Speaker 4: you to tell a story. So I think it's just
Speaker 4: very different. And I don't know if we're trying to
Speaker 4: find the next personality, like the next Matters out, or
Speaker 4: we're trying to find the next kind of players that
Speaker 4: people look up to in certain ways, whether it's their mannerisms,
Speaker 4: the way they kind of conduct themselves at the table,
Speaker 4: or maybe they just like their style, like maybe they
Speaker 4: want to be, you know, feel less and aggressive like
Speaker 4: Alex Foxen. You know, they like the way, you know,
Speaker 4: Nick Schulman acts at the table, the way Christy Foxon
Speaker 4: acts at the table. So I think it's we're just
Speaker 4: looking for different stars and it's not just it's just
Speaker 4: not how it used to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the main point that the mean takeaway
Speaker 1: that Benjamin and I settled on was we don't really
Speaker 1: know what the answer is, you know, kind of like
Speaker 1: you're saying, and it can be different for a lot
Speaker 1: of different people. So I guess just kind of keep
Speaker 1: our eyes on the lookout for it, and then when
Speaker 1: we see it, whatever it is, just got to be
Speaker 1: ready to pounce.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Obie from Germany, doc ober m. I got him a hat.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. I got him a hat. You denied him
Speaker 1: a hat, But I got him a hat because I
Speaker 1: had one.
Speaker 2: Oh you hid one.
Speaker 1: I did not hide one, but I had one. It
Speaker 1: was it was one hundred and twenty five percent not hidden.
Speaker 1: In fact, when I put it where I put it,
Speaker 1: you were with me. So shout out to Obie. Cameron
Speaker 1: from Ventura, California. He usually plays cash, but he sat
Speaker 1: he'd into the main. Oh good show. He's going to
Speaker 1: be taking a shot there. I think he said he's
Speaker 1: into the main for around three K or thirty five
Speaker 1: hundred or something, so nice discount, affordable price. Cameron, shout
Speaker 1: out to you. Hopefully you go deep in the main event.
Speaker 1: We got Joseph from Seattle. He made me do a
Speaker 1: weird back to back pose where we were like our
Speaker 1: shoulders are leaning against each other. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: kind of weird. I'm not really a pose guy like that.
Speaker 1: I did it because I like the fans, but we
Speaker 1: love all. That might be the first in life back
Speaker 1: to back posts ever, so shout out to you surf
Speaker 1: for getting me to do that. But never, it's never happening.
Speaker 1: It's never happening again. We got Eric in the Gladiators
Speaker 1: his second bullet, or he was on his second bullet.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it works out. The first bullet did not work out.
Speaker 1: He got it in top set verse bottom set and
Speaker 1: the guy ran out a flush, so that was bad
Speaker 1: news for Eric. Meeting a lot of people around here,
Speaker 1: it's always fun see if you guys hop on in
Speaker 1: to the main event, and if you are in the
Speaker 1: main event, wrap that poke rel podcast hat. Let us
Speaker 1: know how you're doing. Yeah, you know very much. Look
Speaker 1: forward to it. And you know, if if you want
Speaker 1: to send an email into the podcast at pokero dot com,
Speaker 1: shoot us a DM or whatever. It's pretty simple these
Speaker 1: days to just get in contact with us. We have
Speaker 1: your name, We can quickly look out at your table
Speaker 1: and see we can send her photographers out there. We
Speaker 1: can get a photo of you like you know, we
Speaker 1: can do all that sort of stuff nowadays. So don't
Speaker 1: be shy. Definitely, definitely, definitely do not be shy. So
Speaker 1: those are shout outs that I just wanted to get
Speaker 1: to you. Got any for today?
Speaker 2: I have not.
Speaker 1: I have not been here that I think good. I
Speaker 1: have to run the bed m Jim side. No sounds good?
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's gonna do it for us. His
Speaker 1: name is Tim Duckworth, my name is Donnie Peters, and
Speaker 1: we will talk to you guys next time.
Speaker 2: JA Express